Warhammer 40,000 General /40kg/

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CLAIMED FOR THE W'EATERS

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I'm expecting to go against Death Guard, I'm pretty sure we both want a casual game and I told him I'm bringing a Baneblade beforehand
How badly am I gonna get beat into pulp

3rd for slaanesh

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Rolling up another deathwatch army because I have lost control of my life.
Probably gonna do loyalist marines or Necron

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>>52586595
>W'eaters
>Posts Word Bearers

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>>52586676
Word Eaters. Hungry for wooooords!

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Two armies getting squated in one image

You know how lots of Imperial institutions have a Space Marine chapter or two in their pocket to do their bidding? Like how the AdMech has the Steel Confessors (and to a lesser extent the Iron Hands?), the Inquisition has the Grey Knights and Exorcists, and the High Lords of Terra have the Minotaurs? Why not one for the Administratum? Just an entire chapter of bureaucrats and nerds. Razing cities to collect overdue library books, and deep-striking onto the planetary palace of a tithe-dodging governor to audit him with extreme prejudice.

The Book Wyrms.

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WHO
IS
BEST
IOM
ARMY?

>>52586647
loyalist Necron eh? thats a new one

>>52586795
mechnicus, though they arent as good as dark mechnicum

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You guys get bugged with requests for list crit all the time, so I'm sorry to do this, but I've been out of the game for years and I just got back into it so I can play with some guys at my local club. I'm trying to build an Eldar list with all my favourite models from their range using the new Ynnari rules, but some of the things I've read say that they're ridiculously OP and no fun to play. Winning really isn't that important to me compared to having fun. With that in mind, how does this list look?

Triumvirate of the Ynnead
Yvraine
Visarch
Yncarne
Whispering Ghost Hall
Farseer: Singing Spear
Spiritseer
Shadowseer: Haywire nades, Neuro-Disruptor, Mastery Lvl 2
5x Wraithblades: Axe and Shield
5x Wraithguard: D-Scythes
5x Wraithguard: D-Scythes
Wraithlord: Bright Lance
Wraithlord: Ghost Glaive
Aspect Host
3 x 6 Striking Scorpions each w/ basic Exarch

Sort of ran out of points so I can't fit any tanks in there to ferry the Wraithguard about but I managed to get a lot of my favourite units in there (Wraithguard and Howling Banshees). Is it shit? Image for attention.

>>52586798
loyal to the silent king :^)

>>52586795
I would like to start admech even though I already have Imperial Guard, Space Marines and SoB
I'm deep in the hole and can't get out
I like SoB and IG the best though, which one I prefer over the other kinda waivers

>>52586766
>Book Wyrms
kek'd

>>52586820
Oh, forgot to say it comes to 1999pts as I think 2k is the standard game size. Thanks in advance anyone who decides to help out with some list crit.

I also forgot to say I'll be heavily converting the Yncarne as it just looks silly in a bad way, imo.

>>52586839
START GREY KNIGHTS

>b-but they are shit
DO IT

>>52586842
2k points is gonna take you all afternoon to play
1,85k is the tournament standard
1k-1,5k is a fun, decently lengthy game
500 points can be okay I guess?
>>52586847
Local meta already has Grey Knights and I don't feel any sort of connection to them.

>>52586621
Drop the heavy bolter team or give them another weapon. S5 AP4 will do nothing against Death Guard. Same thing with the grenade launchers. You need as much AP3 as possible.

You should also get a bunch of conscripts with a priest to wrap the baneblade with. Otherwise he can fly in a daemon prince and smash it.

Right lads I'm fuckin doing chaos space marines for that new wee necromunda game that's coming out. How should I run them?

>>52586859
Yeah that's alright, club starts at 5:30 and finishes at around 10ish so the game length isn't too much of an issue.

>>52586795
>Reads "Iron Army"
>Is about to complain about not seeing Iron Hands, Iron warriors, Steel Legion etc
>Reads it again
>Goodgrief.jpg

Also, answering the question, AdMec or Guard.

>>52586820
Very little mass.
Very little mobility.

Seems like shit to me senpai. The Wraithguard will never reach the enemy on foot. You need some wave serpents or raiders.

>>52586920
The formations are fairly restrictive and I can't see where I can drop enough points to fit in a Wave Serpent or two. I'm trying to avoid having to take any models I don't want (like Guardians or whatever). Honestly I've been out of the game for ages and the new rules on army structure are incredibly confusing, I have no idea how all the different formations work and if they're even legal without a CAD.

>>52586962
Just take the reborn warhost. It's the default Ynnari formation and works just like a CAD, except instead of obsec you get two starbursts for every unit destroyed instead of one.

And you can take pretty much whatever you want from CE, DE, and quins.

>>52587053
Oh yeah, just flipped through the Fracture of Biel-Tan book and saw this, awesome. What would recommend I take as my troops tax? I have some Harlequins lying around I bought for a project a while ago, will two squads of them work alright. I think I'll be taking Yvraine, the Visarch, some Wraithguard, a couple of Wave Serpents and some Howling Banshees. I'm not sure in the 'Quins will synergise with them at all. Maybe I should take some Scatbikes, I hear they're pretty good in most situations.

>>52587155
First of all, are you building a list to win, or are you building a list that you think is cool and thematic? This is important.

Can Crusader henchmen retinue join a unit along with an inquisitor to utilize their storm shields for said unit?

>>52587204
Cool and thematic. I like Wraithguard, I like Howling Banshees and Yvraine and the Visarch have really nice models and lore. Not massively interested in roflstomping the lads I'm going to play with, it's a pretty casual chill meta.

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>>52586646
>No image to accompany as tribute

For shame, anon.

>>52587155
It's eldar bro, all the troop choices are good. Kabalite warriors are great, dire avengers are great, guardians are good, and windriders are one of the most fucked up units in the game.

Basically, take whatever you like the most, anything you want to run will be decent at the very least.

>>52587219
What?

Can a non independent character join another unit? Is that your question ?

>>52587222
Cool. Otherwise I'd tell you to scrap the Yvraine and Visarch, but roll with them.

I like Kabalites as troops, they're cheap, good disposable soulburst dispensers, come with poison, and will feel very Ynnari in your list as you lack DE presence.

What squad are you planning to run the Visarch and Yvraine in? A fun option that can either crash and burn like nothing else or work in really interesting ways is to put them in a Warlock Conclave. As the warlocks die, Yvraine will regen wounds and get new powers + mastery levels.

My friend and I split Dark Vengeance a little while ago, and I ended up with the Chaos side. What can I do to improve my collection from here? I'm thinking of a Chaos undivided army, or a combined Chaos and Ork army.

>>52587256
I'm wondering if an inquisitor and his henchmen count as one to join another unit

>>52587381
>Mixing factions
No

Just run Word Bearers anon

>>52587381
>combined Chaos and Ork army.
Why do you demand such pain?

>>52587381
If you're gonna do Chaos/Orks do Alpha Legion and Blood Axes, they might be worthwhile next edition.

>>52587398
Henchmen are a unit, not an independent character. Only time you can mix units is if it is specifically ruled that way, like Celestine and her two groupies. Where as Grimaldus and his servitors cannot join another unit.

>>52587398
Why would it? They are different units bought from different entries. It's not a Celestine that it has rules for that in the same entry

>>52587408
Da Orks are my favorite race. I was debating just getting that Ork starter pack, but Dark Vengeance came with all the rules and stuff, so I ended up getting that.

>>52587424
Do they have like special figures, or are they all just painted differently?

>>52587284
Okay, thanks for helping me with this by the way, I really appreciate it.

Current list based off your recommendations and other anons is this:

Reborn Warhost
Yvraine
Visarch
2x 10 Kabalite Warriors
Seer Council
2x Farseer, Singing Spear
5x Warlocks
Aspect Host
2 x 6 Howling Banshees w/ Basic Exarch
5x Wraithblades, Axe and Shield, Wave Serpent
5x Wraithguard, D-Scythes, Wave Serpent
Shadowseer, ML2, Haywire nades, Neuro-Disruptor

That leaves me at 1839pts. I think I've covered most of my bases there and I still get to play with Wraiths and Banshees. Ideas then are obviously to chuck Yvraine and the Visarch in with the Seer Council, Wraiths are distractions and/or hit and run and the Kabalites, Banshees and Shadowseer stick together to benefit from soulburst. Is this list alright?

>>52587452
It's just funny that your two favorite factions are the worst by far.

>>52587475
They're just painted differently. Alpha Legion have Legion Rules, but Blood Axes are just the best Ork Clan.

>>52587490
CSM are better than Tyranids.

>>52587504
Depends on the legion, but you're right.

>>52587478
Aspect Hosts have to have 3 squads. You could cut the Wraithblades for Fire Dragons or Dire Avengers.

In friendly games it'll work, you're quite low on bodies though, and you have a LOT of psykers competing for dice. Psychic might is really strong though, so it might still be worth it since the Yvraine can generate some of her budget on her own.

>>52587435
>>52587436
Makes sense, thought henchmen joined with the Inquisitor, not the other way around being a retinue and all

Thoughts on the venerable dreadnaught? I've been dreaming of running a custodes army forever but I'm iffy on that unit.

>>52587504
What makes the Blood Axes better if they don't have different rules?

>>52587490
What can I say? I love Cheese.

>>52587560
Overpriced/10

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>>52587594
Because Blood Axes are Kunnin' but Brutal!

And they're the only clan to use any sense of actual military tactics and camouflage.

>>52587598
The dreadnaught or custodes in general?

>>52587648
Custodes were made in mind for 8th I think.
In 7th they're probably the 3rd or 4th worst army.

>>52587549
Ah, sorry, typed 2 instead of 3. It'll be 3 squads of Howling Banshees.

I honestly have no idea how the psychic phase works now, it's just that>>52587284 said that running Yvraine with them could be fun(ny). Honestly, they can go and be replaced with something else, that formation comes to 385pts. I just can't think of something to replace them with. What would you suggest?

>>52587673
Ouch. Any recommendations for allies then? I was thinking sisters or inquisition

>>52587710
I'm the same guy, it's running a seer council I'm 50/50 about due to the raw number of psykers, but because of Yvraines self-generating dice it could work.

>>52586621
So what list builder is this I keep seeing people use, I've only used battlescribe

>>52587404
Why not? Da Orks are my favorite faction.

>>52586766
Would they have lots of librarians?

>>52586766
>angry library dreadnoughts
Even in death, I still learn.

>>52587629
It also makes the most sense to have Alpha Legion paired up with Blood Axes; both favor infiltration and sabotage rather than just open combat.

>>52587648
Ven Dreadnoughts in general. And Ven Contempt Dreadnoughts even more so.

>>52586766
Their motto could be Latin for the "death and taxes" phrase.

>>52580882
Everything dies when attacked sufficiently. A good player will know this and use that to their advantage through redundancy, and maneuvering. Terrain means your shit doesnt insta die from a mean look from a jetbike without maneuvering on their part -- which you can manipulate.

Landraiders are meant to be fucking durable. If that fucker gets your assault unit into the enemy deployment zone by turn 2 its done its job.

Do better, Anon

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>>52587883
shit, that one's good

>>52586766
>Loyal thousand sons

I like the idea, librarians are my favourite space marine specialist.

>>52586621
You may just have enough firepower to worry him, but he's going to fuck you on mobility and capping objectives.
>>52586889
Between FNP and Shrouded you should probably throw buckets of dice at them rather than trying for more AP3 which he already has a fair bit of. Plus it's perfect if the guy brings plague zombies.

>>52587734
Well SoB another problem, old metal models and mostly one way to play them.

>>52587560
Amazing in ZM. Strong in Kill team if used effectively. A squad fire-support platform otherwise.

Its effectiveness depends on your strategy.

>>52587905
Morte et tributa.

DEATH AND TITHE COME FOR THEE, HERETIC

>>52586894
As much power armor and heavy weapons as you can squeeze in, you can recruit Cultists later but you can't promote them to Marines like Loyalists and some other armies can do with their Recruits.

>>52587958
>Morte et tributa.
Fuck.
Sounds cool.

>>52587926
Statistically, a krak missile has better odds of killing a marine than a HB does. And against zombies a frag missile will probably get more hits.

>>52587927
Sos i meant

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>>52587927

>one way to play them

I count three anon.
BOLTER
FLAMER
AND MELTA
THE HOLY TRINITY OF THE ADPETA SORORITA

>>52588024
>a marine
That's because a regular Johnny doesn't have FNP and a buff to cover saves to fall back on once his armor is negated.

>>52588000
They should be very Great Crusadeish in attitude. Seeking out non-compliant worlds, spreading old school Imperial Truth, and naturally coming into conflict with the Ecclesiarchy and Inquisition.

>>52588041
>AND THE FOURTH
>THE FORBIDDEN WAY
...
>THE PLASMA

look at that bitch with her plasma pistol, it's like she wishes she was a Space Marine

>>52588041
remember when sobs had orders other than our martyred lady

I do

I hope in 8th we can take 5 heavy weapons for havocs and put one on the champion

>>52588041
Are we aspect Warrior now?

SoB right now are MSU Immolator/Repressor Spam with a side dish of Exorcist and Seraphims

Are flakk missiles worth it or is it better to use reaper autocannons?

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Help anyone? ;-;

>>52588217
>new ynnari alliance with gully man leads to howling banshee sob

I need this

>>52587734
It's not a matter of having allies, it's a matter of every single entry that you have in the codex being insanely overpriced. For one of your troop choice armies can take heavy support/elite options that completely decimate the squad and the overpriced god awful transport they rode in on. The fact that Custodes can't get a marked down land raider is beyond me. I don't get it.
They can't get worse. They'll get better in 8th but it's still up in the air really. They're an army which unless things went back to the way they were in 5th when 2+ was king (which it never will, weapon profiles are too good at taking them out) they'll be mid tier or lower.

Is there any way to get Ferrum Infernus Dreadnoughts? Do any recasters make them?

>>52588217
>>52588262
Seconded.

>>52588254

Autocannons.
Flak missiles should come free because they're on an already mediocre weapon.

>>52588256
Seems nasty enough, I'd enjoy fighting it. Veterans for Obsec, your tanks can hold/contest objectives from non-obsec.

>>52588256
Needs conscripts

>>52588447
There's no actual model. One of the old Legion dreads are perfect for it, but you can make do with pretty much any Dreadnought model, even Hellbrutes are A-ok as long as you have something that says "this guy is a bit more elite"

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Vectorized my legion's logo, looks quite nice if I say so myself

>>52587926
>plague zombies.
He isn't gonna bring those, I'm almost 100% sure. I'm certain he'll go for that formation that gives his plague marines an aura that nerfs my weapon skill, iniative and toughness though.
Also
>Death Guard being more mobile
He's not gonna bring a bike list either, I'm almost certain.
Unless he really hates my baneblade.
I'm really scared about Daemon Princes though
>>52586889
I can't drop the heavy bolters, I'm using steel legion models and they're all I have
Plus I fucking love heavy bolters

>>52586795
Death Watch.

Close second is Mechanicum for forcing the Emperor to kneel (at his own fucking doorstep).

>>52588581
Could be improved, but looks nice

I really fucking hope Noise Marines get new models like Death Guard. Noise Marines are such a cool fucking idea, and they deserve so much better than just an upgrade kit.

(and they're the only good thing Slaanesh has to offer that isn't cringeworthy)

>>52588661
Daemonettes used to be cool.

>>52587958
I'd slap that shit all over a dreadnought/Librarian.

>>52588651
yeah, I might re do the chaos star segments since they look a little wonky.

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>>52588599
Fucked up with my last list
Yeah Plague Colony is kind of a meme. Not worth taking really.

>>52588599
>He's not gonna bring a bike list either, I'm almost certain.
He can still bunker his boys up in Rhinos or cross half the table with Relentless footsloggers. If he's got half a brain he'll take a Vectorum which means at least SOME bikes as part of the Warband and probably a flying DP.

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>>52586811
>dark mechanicum
>being capable of anything beyond dinobots and possessed shit
Lel

>>52588779
it sounds pretty nasty if he gets into close combat though
I also know he won't be bringing any Heldrakes, or at least I've never seen one locally.
Didn't think it would take up that much of the points.
>>52588845
Yeah, I don't know. I've always asked for a friendly, non-competitive match so he might go easy on me.

>>52588856
>Daemoncabula is fucked up beyond belief but it delivers results better than the AdMech could ever hope for.

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>Sources saying Death Guard are going to be a late May release to coincide with Warhammer Fest in the UK

Fucking hell, I'm not so sure I want the advance warnings of like 2-3 months when it means waiting that long for the goods.

>>52586822
>not loyal to the c'tan

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>>52588856
>He dosent know about the Hell blade and Hell talon
>or the Plauge Hulk
>Or the chaos achilles
hahahahahaha you know nothing

>>52588894
that was technically Honsou's work so it's a point for CSM rather than DM

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>>52588867
Yeah Plague Marines are over priced really. The formation is bad and doesn't allow you to take bikes or autocannon havocs which is what makes Nurgle so good. Just a really underwhelming list at that point level.

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>>52588894
>iron warriors = DM
Pic related
>>52588934
>implying those aren't possessed shit
Pic releated

>>52588920
>Loyal to dead gods

If I want to build a fluffy Wraith-construct themed list, should I stick with a Pale Courts Battlehost or are the Ynnari benefits worth taking a bunch of tax units?

>>52588867
Well, my gut instinct says that he'd go for a Vectorum with a Chaos Warband+Sorcerer/DP with the the points spread evenly across choices, or whatever models he's got. It's a simple solid army without going out of his way to go easy on you. If he's feeling nasty the same formation could build a bike deathstar with a flying DP psyker throwing powers around, but for a friendly game it will probably be a bikelord with a handful of bikes, CSM in Rhinos, some Terminators, some Havocs (probably both special weapon teams in Rhinos and heavy weapon teams marching across his rear field) and a Sorcerer since the new Nurgle discipline works fine no matter what you roll.

>>52586766
>implying this hasn't been done before

They had power quills and power desks and went into battle seated.

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>>52589017
>>52588934
Also
>chaos Achilles
>not stolen shit

>>52589016
>>52588779
I hate T5 monsters. They always make me regret not taking Demolishers or Vindicators. At least toughness 6 means I wouldn't be able to ID them anyways.

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>>52589122
anon, you cant steal what you already own

>>52589017
>custom building an aircraft so scary that reality itself shits a brick
>not cool as fuck
anon, there is something wrong with you

Fuck sakes, was looking forward for some painting but the terrorist nutbag who mowed down some people downtown really put me off... Horray for europe

Should I put shotguns on Neophytes in close combat oriented Crusader squads?

>>52588952
>>52589017
Honsou hired the DarkMech for that. He provided geneseed and materials in return for new recruits, and the DM got to complete their sickfuck research project.

>>52586576
>new obliterators get released
>marks replaced with "daemon of" or just daemon special rules for unmarked units
Look into your hearts anons, you know this to be true.

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What do you think of this for a 1250 list?

>>52589184
>rending oblits
>shrouded olbits
>FC oblits
i could live with this.

>>52589200
Oblits already get shrouded/relentless anyway

>>52589216
no they dont, they get deamon and S&P you dumb ass

>>52589192
>Libby bikestar
>grav cents in pod
>vets with more grav in Rhino
*yawn*

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Tell me about the autistic guy at your FLGS, /40kg/

>>52589151
>implying traitors didn't steal the imperium from their hard earned technology when they went rouge
>implying that's not a possessed shit
>implying they aren't carrion for thunderbolts

>>52589244
He randomly screams video game quotes and 40k memes with no provocation

He also practically lives there

>>52589192
How do you intend to deal with hordes?

Sternguard are expensive for what they do. Keep the combi squad but slough the grav cannons off to a dev squad.

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>>52589235

I was told I needed to go heavy grav to not get squished.

This is what I had before

>>52589259
>How do you intend to deal with hordes?
Heavy bolter fire and specialist ammo, but I am new so I am not entirely sure.

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>>52589183
>implying Honsou wasn't the mastermind behind all
>implying DM wankers doesn't wank all day unless they're forced to do shit by renegade astartes

>>52589244
He browses 40kg and 1d4chan

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What actual detatchments can guilliman be taken in?

Owning mostly imperial fists makes things even more complicated from chapter tactics...

>>52589231
Cult of Destruction Auxiliary in a Vectorium
How about you learn something before you speak cunt

>>52589271
Only if you are taking this to a tournament, or are facing optimized Tau/Eldar lists.
This current list is entirely fluffy (well, the centurions are a little outlier) and would be a fun throw down for most armies without being untenable.
Remember the idiots on here think WAAC is the assumption, not a (poor) choice.

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>>52589290
>He edits 1d4chan

>>52589346
Fair enough, I really like assault centurions so I wanted to make them and pedro work.

Was bitched out of the thread though lol

>>52589271
Should I change the 10man vet squad to 5 or keep it?

>>52589200
I'll take T5 for more resistance to ID over Shrouded any day if the week.

>>52589389
I would get destroyed by that Lena Headey look alike second from the right

>>52589395
I might go for vanguard vets instead of ass cents. Fluffier and more effective.

Use command squad for special weapons, sternguard for boltguns and heavy flamers.

Plus I really despise the cent models, but that's me.

>>52589432
see
>>52589337
You can already get it, and VotLW gets you relentless

>>52589291
cute image

>>52586820

The only scary unit you have are wraithguard, but since you don't have tanks for them that list is 100% a-okay. In fact, it's a bit crap if anything, but since it's all about fun you're good to go.

>>52589244
He always is talking to someone (as in he talks to them they're just forced to listen) about video games he likes and complain about sjws and racists. He never plays 40k games he just shows up

of course my LGS is a GW so I could go on and on about everyone in that cursed place

>>52589500
Do it.

>>52589289
Honsou just came to them and said "I have a bunch of stolen geneseed, and I need more Marines in a hurry"; the how was all up to the DM.
>implies the DarkMech weren't also wanking the whole time they worked on the Daemonculaba
>they didn't even need to stuff a kid up there, they had ways of rapidly bringing a pregnancy to term, they just wanted to see if Honsou would notice them making their unbirth fetish a reality

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>>52589458
I am using sternguard to benefit from pedro's obsec. I like how my centurions look, at least so far.

Here is a pic of one I have put together

>>52589500
>He never plays 40k games he just shows up

Just like me! Except I don't even show up.

>>52588256
Swap the battle cannon and the vanquisher. Name on thing that is weak to both a Punisher cannon and a Vanquisher. So if Pask fails his order the other tank one of the tank's shooting is going to be a complete waste.

>>52589578
Those are magnets under the arms, so I can switch loadouts on the fly.

Obviously not painted yet, still filing greenstuff down.

I could take out 5 of the sternguard and grav a devastator squad instead. IF devastators with heavy bolters are fluffy, and not garbage against AV10

>>52589483
But if they changed it to Daemon of Nurgle they just get Shrouded instead of +1T, making the Vectorum buff redundant and making them vulnerable to S8 weapons. Shrouded only really benefits them in cover anyway since they already have a 5+ Invul.

>>52589578
Well, you gave him some legs. So that's good.

>>52589578
Chest missiles are magnetized also

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>>52589645
Yes I hated how short they looked, I think this picture I stole from the internet explains it

>>52589181

No, give them chainswords

>immolator comes back in stock
>broke because I just paid rent
>will probably be out of stock tomorrow

Kill me

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My WIP Mephiston.

I feel like he looks way too much like Santa...

>>52589291
As far as I know, any imperial force that allows a LoW

>>52589016
But Plague Marines are the only reason you should want to play Death Guard
Because Plague Marines are awesome
Unlike Bikes
Bikes are for gays

>>52589700
Shade that white with a bit of wash and highlights and it'll be fine.

>>52587750
http://webapplications-webroster.rhcloud.com/rc/web/#!/rosterCreator#%2FrosterCreator

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>>52589550
>the last of the only useful DM member
>killed by an ultramarine
Guilliman is proud

>>52589700
Looks fine.
Just add the pertinent shades and lights and should be good.

>>52589701
Chapter tactics disallows mixing chapters like that, unless there's an FAQ for Bobby.

>>52589700
Tone down the white elements with some grey, then. Start with a medium grey base and drybrush the shit out of it with increasingly lighter shades and gentler brushing until you're edge highlighting with pure white.

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Guys explain to me If Abaddon destroyed Cadia then how is he going to leave the EoT anymore? This means no safe route outside the eye. How come GW is still selling Cadian kits and characters?

>>52589787
You can, you just lose chapter tactics

>>52589957
He's planning to swallow Terra within the eye by expanding it

Fuuuuck, both GW near me are out of retributor armour spray.

I want to paint my custodes ffs.

>>52589957
there are many new Cadia's like, 20 of em.
aaaand to the first part, there's no explanation beyond, the gods allow it

>>52587752
Then run mono Orkz

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>Lost all interest in the hobby
>No minis I own seems fun to paint any more
>Have no time to play or really enjoy the stuff I used to enjoy.
>But.... If I buy something I really would like to paint... What if... What if the sparks starts flying again!
>But Ill only get this box, just to try out...
> $500 later....

Is this common /tg/? It seems to be my card to play none the less. I always end up growing tired of my armies before giving it the chance to paint it all. And I hate playing grey models, and thus tend to not play at all instead....

>>52589991
fucking christ, even the website is sold out

Guess I'll just spray em in black and use a pot of gold

>>52589957
Dont need to leave via the Eye of Terror now that every system has their own personal warp rift.

And 90% of guard platoons modelled themselves after Cadians. Kit isn't going anywhere soon

>>52589957
MOT cadians were off planet, the cadians present in GS were your standard cadians in the planet at all time, remember cadians are present in most imperial crusades

>>52590091
This shit do happens, do something else, distract yourself with another activity, then the spark will call you back to paint, trust me it never dies.

>>52590091
>Not going by how well you build + paint a SC box
Noone to blame but yourself anon

>>52590140
Cadians must fuck like rabbits then.

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Slaanesh was here~

>>52589642
I don't think they'll make the change.
The shrouded is really just an unnecessary icing, relentless is what brings them to another echelon.

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>cant really afford to buy anything else
>buy it anyway

On the plus side, I've decided to sell my Tzeentch daemons, so there's that. Once I find a buyer that it.

>>52590196
Isn't that a dude?

>>52590091

I'm smart enough to just walk away. Not quit, mind you, but simply do another hobby I'm more interested in doing and really want to do at the moment. I know inevitably I'll come back to 40K and have real and proper motivation.

I'm not saying you're an idiot, but there are a lot of idiots on /tg/, and that's an idiotic thing to do to make a stupid decision like that. It's sunk cost theory at its finest. "I'll keep throwing money at this and maybe it'll get better!".

>>52590196

That's such a guy

>>52590196
pancake/10
Then again my gf is black so~

>>52590249
>gf

>>52590257

He meant his "guuUUUUuuuuurlfriend". You have to waggle your head and a finger when you say it.

>>52590257
They're gainz gobins anon
Stealing both my gym time and my hobby time

But i suppose it's nice to company every now and again after a 3 year dry spell

How the fuck do meltas work, do they just shoot out super heated air, gas, metal?

>>52590291
Near as I can tell it's like jet engine/rocket exhaust

Big fucking beam of superheated shit, but it doesn't go very far

>>52590291
I always figured it was kind of like a really long and hot lightsaber, like some sort of weird laser blowtorch

>>52590291
Heat ray.

Vaporizes solids and sets off explosives.

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>>52590180
>>52590246
>>52590179


I feel the real problem is that money isn't an issue any more. See, when your a kid, every buck counts, you scratch and you save to get that "special thing". And when you do get it, oh boy do you enjoy the shit out of it!
Now though, one can buy stuff on a whim. Hell, I can just get bored and order stuff online without a second thought.

The real problem though is that, while I do own several painted armies (for various gaming systems), of late I just cant find the spirit to finish what I start. And it annoys the fuck out of me!

>>52590379
We have transport tubes?

>>52590379
>of late I just cant find the spirit to finish what I start.
Do nofap

I jk just stop yourself from buying anything new until you finish part of the army or all of it

>>52590291
Microwave shotgun that superheats everythiing.

>>52590379

I know that feeling. What I do now is wait at least 1 week before I make a large impulse purchase. I'm glad I've adopted this method as something may seem super necessary for even the first 3-4 days, but a week or two later, you go "Whew, I'm glad I didn't buy that $1,000 watch/$600 knife, I don't even give a shit about it anymore."

>>52590427

I started doing that, but I had to buy immolators now because trend shows they'll be gone tonight. The worst part is that I just started to crack down on my spending, and they came back.

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>>52589701
Huh. Does that include castellans detatchment?

Also weird as it is, nemesis strike force or imperial knight detatchment?

>>52590519
Where the fuck have you been for the past 25% of a year, all the Triumvirate models are like this. This isn't fucking rocket science.

>>52589700
The blood on the base makes the red elements a bit overwhelming. I recommend toning it down to a splatter. Also never basecoat pure white, always go for a light grey or blue and then highlight with white.

>>52589700
thin the gold.

>>52589991
Pick up an airbrush and start basecoating like a god.

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Hi guys
I am fairly new to this and I struggle understanding the codices because I'm dumb, but I came up with this 1500 points IG list that seems fair to me. But I have 0 experience on the field and I'd like to know from you how to improve it. Can you help me?

>>52590291
I think of them as thermal shotguns that'll blow a big fucking hole in a tank.

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>>52590196

>>52586795
Admech.

>>52590606
You don't wanna waste points on power weapons on sergeants. Otherwise it looks fine, although I don't understand why the infantry platoon is separate.

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>>52586795
Dark angels

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Would you enjoy playing against this list? Tried buying toys over boys in as many places as possible and avoided the most broken Eldar stuff.

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>>52589537
if you insist

heres my autistic rant about my local Gw patrons

im not gunna say any real names but here I go

first up is "300 confirmed kills"
>claims he was in the army but the VA wont give him benefits because his records were lost in a fire
>tells bs stories about how he was "black ops in mexico" and other shit similar to that
>his wife is an on call manager for gw so he practical lives there
>constantly complains about his "financial crisis" while owning a baneblade (he doesn't play guard) and 4 wraith knights (one is FW)
>lets his little kids run around the store

next up is "silent joe"
>no one knows his name
>his mom drops him off just to stand around and look at things

this next kid just refer to as the Deamon
>he actually has autism
>Wont
>Stop
>Talking
>makes really bad inappropriate jokes to try and impress the older kids that go there
>cheats at 40k vs new players (not on purpose hes just too stupid to read the codex and remember things people tell him from prevoius games)
>acts like huge dick when you call him out or try to help him
>yells at his dad


"Britbong autist"
>rarely shows up
>hes not actually British
>claims he got his accent when his dad found a bunch of old james bond dvd's that fell out of a truck and he watched all of them
>rants about how there should be no borders and no laws in any country

"golden boy"
>this is the guy I mentioned before who talkes about video games
>his mom also drops him off to do nothing all day
>has a OC space marine legion (in 40k)
>once complained about losing a game because the table impeded his dice rolls

I know I said I wouldn't say names but anyone named alex that frequents the store is a huge retard

And this is just the main tards

there are a few more I missed but I dont feel like posting them all

>>52590650
Feel bad for them in the case that they are actually female and just kind of flat.

But at the same time am loling at the fact that someone would post that and not expect this.

>>52590693
Pardon me if I say something idiotic but doesn't the combined arms detachment specify 4 optional troops? 3 squads and 2 veterans make 5 and I thought I had to separate them
Also I thought that power weapons were almost compulsory for what they bring on the field

>>52590235
No, just a girl who was born with a penis.

>>52586795
so, there's a lot of admech fans on tg, eh? why do you like it so much?

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>>52590751

>>52590247
If thats a guy then there are no straight men.

>>52590725
me as silent joe and Deamon combined

>>52590728
Not a female, self proclaimed trap that lurks the generals and was probably the person posting the same shitty Kakaphoni list over and over before.
Probably isn't actually that person, just another gayboy that wants other gayboy hobbyists for their (you)'s

>>52590729
I mean, if your veteran sergeants are as good as dead if they end up in close combat and you NEED to take three special weapons per veteran squad if you're going to bring them.
Also as per the IG codex an Infantry Platoon is ONE troops choice no matter how many squads it includes. I've just never seen it separated into it's own detachment before.
I might actually consider power weapons on regular sergeants if you're going to blob them up though. Maybe. If you're going up against MEQ. Otherwise it's still kind of a waste.

>>52590763
They identify as female.

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Rate my shitty Guardsman list as i struggle my way into this hobby.

>>52590799
So? The universe is not beholden to whim.

>>52590771
I see, thanks. The plan was actually to blob them, possibly to shield one of the tank squadrons

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how does my interim 1850 list look while I'm waiting to get the last few taloses for my corpsethief squad?

my locals is a lot of dark angels, necrons, and orks.

>>52590818
most guard players I see stick their commander in a chimaera, take that as you will.

>>52590763
Weird.

Assume for a moment I wanted to identify as the other gender. The moment I go on the internet pretending/attn whoring about it, any noble intentions go out the window.

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>>52586576

Alpha Legion novel set during Gathering Storm 3

mite b cool

>>52590908
>alpha legion versus thighs

>>52590902
You'd be surprised how many gay people lurk /tg/
I definitely was.

>>52590908
Wait a second. That helmet-less AL marine doesn't look mutated. Change his colours and he would appear like a normal marine. WTF?

>>52589250
>no(you)

>>52589742
Nah, CSM, havocs and chosen with MoN your cheaper pseudo plague marines are the reason. Especially chosen, 3 points cheaper and much better in melee and ranged wolffare.

>>52590291

The fluff says something about 'sub-atomic agitation' or promethium gas, although fuck knows what that means. Could be anything from a few electrons getting knocked off to transformation into some kind of exotic matter. Then a jet of this shit is fired 'in a molecular state' at the target, melting the shit out of it.

An alternative version which I like is that it's a coherent x-ray beam. X-rays penetrate through pretty much anything at about the same rate, so the only defence is to have lots of mass and space between you and them; armour is basically irrelevant except for being more mass to put in the way. On the other hand, just having enough air between you and the source will do a pretty good job of keeping you safe and they are a bitch to focus (that whole penetration thing meaning they just punch through any lens as if it wasn't there) so maximum range is going to be very short.

>bought Collectors Edition version of Dante
>damn ink smudge on one of pages

Cool book though, really enjoyed it. Filled in a lot more shit. According to Sanguinius Baal dies and so does most of the North-Eastern part of the Galaxy. Leviathan makes it to Terra along with Chaos and fights over who gets to kill the Emperor. The golden figure dies defending the Emperor and then it doesn't really explain what happens other than the seconds longer the Emperor is given to live might save everything or it might change nothing

Also, bit of a shame they didn't keep Dante as 'that guy who is in charge cause he was the only one left' and made him slightly special. Still, at least Dante admits he's only alive cause luck. Though there are some inconsistencies in the book and from other sources.

Good read though. The short story added into the Collectors Edition was OK.

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>>52590934

I really like the minimalist chaos. It's how I like to picture the AL. Terrorists and infiltrators of the Imperium that throw in with cults from time to time but are not 'true believers'.

>>52590291
I assumed it was like a blowtorch. Not that it matters. Dawn of War 3 has changed how lascannons fire now, they're constant beam shit now, not actual laser CANNONS. Thanks GW.

>>52590934
Mutations would make it hard to infiltrate, they don't normally reside in the Eye.

>>52590291
Melta is literally hyper heated slag
The reason it's range is so short is because it's more reactive to gravity than a normal bullet, being so dense and heavy.

>>52590991
It's not like GW has input over how those fags interpret their game do they? Or they just don't care.

Greetings brothers.

Follow the Holy Commandments of the Space Marines. Cause anything normies do you can do better with less.

>>52589957
Ssshhh, new retard lore quietly ignored that and the newfags try and fight you to show off their nerd cred.
>that guy who posted the retconned Black Crusade map that made it look like Armless regularly made it halfway across the galaxy instead of barely off Cadia's doorstep
>Arrow for the 2nd crusade doesn't even point at the right system
>Systems shuffled around and spread away from the Eye
>"We're gonna blow up Cadia, but we've fucked the lore so hard that Cadia is basically non critical to repelling Chaos and so all the drama has been taken out of its destruction."

>>52590291
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXRLMeyQLnY

>>52591022

In the Talon of Horus, some dude says he doesn't know what happened to the Alpha legion and Abaddon mentions them hiding in the Eye.

>>52591026
Pretty sure they do. In the White Dwarf article it said "If you ever want to know how a lascannon fires, here it is! :D" or some shit.

>>52591078
Oh well fuck that noise then

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>>52590533
Uninformed? I guess? The GS1 characters had slightly different wording regarding what they could be taken in I think. Just trying to make certain I don't violate on anyone.

>>52591088
I dunno why they changed it. The whole shit on "The lascannon does more damage the longer you keep it on a target" or "The orbital strike does more damage the more things it kills" is also fucking stupid.

It's like they don't even try. I don't get it.

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Just ordered one of these. Tempted to start collecting a whole bunch of 40k style porn figures now. What are my options apart from the Wargames Exclusive ones?

Or maybe I'll just buy a shit-load of generic naked ladies (anyone recommend good ones) and use the tube maker I just got to greenstuff mechanicus parts onto them.

>>52591178

Raging Heroes and WarEx are the only ones that are decent. The rest are either expensive, too large, both, or just crappy. Avatars of War and Dark Age may have some good ones but they are not meant to be not-40K.

>>52589983
I think chapter tactics has a wording saying all models in a detatchment must have the same tactics? Don't have the book with me.

>>52590867
pls respond

>>52591073
He says he knows for a fact that some of them are in the Eye. He also wears pieces of armour in all nine colours of the traitor legions.

>>52590943
I hope you aren't giving Havocs heavy weapons, that goes against Death Guard fluff.

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>>52591059
You mean this one from 3th ED?

>>52591178
>Mortenebra

>>52591221
>>52590867
Why are you mixing blasters and splinter cannons?

>>52590235
Probably. It's also a photoshopped tattoo and the IRL pic is unrelated

>>52591326
splinter cannons can at least fire on a movement. I'd put a dark lance on them but that basically leaves only 4 units able to fire on a movement.

Besides, I'm not always going to be firing at vehicles, so having an extra 4/6 shots will be nice.

Also, I don't really have better places to dump points.

>>52590934
I'm not overly fond of the clean look. Needs more Chaotic motifs. Now I'm fine with them being cleaner than others, but that pic is too clean.

>>52591273
No that one has him mostly contained within the Segmentum and within threat range of forces based on Cadia; canonically it was usually either Cadian fleets harassing his backfield or armies mobilized to retake whatever ground he'd gained that made Abby pull back into the eye. The latest maps basically triple the distance he covered in any direction.

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>>52591273
Doesn't look that different from the 6th/7th ED one. Is anon being a liar?

>>52590962
Part of my gold foil rubbed off in thr mail.

But they did keep that part, it was just in the ebook series that came out a few months back. They didn't retread his promotion from captain to chapter master is all.

>>52591265
sorry but at this point i dont give a fuck. oh i love nurgle and tzeentch. TOO BAD ! you can never play them together because fluff. Fuck it, ima convert my nurgle bikers into the 4 hoursemen of the apocalypse and wreak havoc upon my foes.

>>52590715
Any Eldar formation is broken. Take the same list as CAD.

>>52591354
If you're going to use them for anti-infantry drop the blasters and upgrade one incubi to a klavex for rampage, in case you run in to any tarpits and give your archon haywire grenades in case he gets caught out by a walker.

Perhaps consider a shock prow for av14 ramming if you have nothing better?

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>>52590729
first off grab rule book and the codex in the op.
>Combined arms
you must take 2 troops and you may optionally take an additional 4.

Guard are a bit weird in that they can take infantry platoons as a single troop choice so you have three troop options filled out there: 2 x veterans and 1 x infantry platoon

For the most part guard are a shooty army which is going to make your power weapons pretty pointless, There are some occasions when you want expendable troops to tarpit enemy units but for the most part guns are going to be more useful to them.

pic is how I'd re-order it

>>52591511
True. It was a neat book. But the shit where it said "he didn't take a drink from a living host since the war on whatever the one was with the weird scavenger xenos" yet later on it has him drain some humans fighting The Purge CSM. Unless the guy meant conscious drinking.

>>52591238
True, but the Alpha Legion are the most splintered of all the legions and their shtick IS infiltration, so a lot of them are probably residing hidden in the Imperium a lot.

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>>52591551
well, the plan is that the trueborn squads are anti-termie/vehicle, the splinter cannons are just a backup, but yeah, I suppose their points could be better spent elsewhere.

This better?

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Working on putting 1000 points of KDK together. Here's what I've got so far. To make up the rest of the points should I kit the fuck out of the bikers/marines, replace the marines with berzerkers or add something else?

>>52591568
>Was going to scold you about taking illegal command squads because I thought you can only take one per squad
Oh well, now I feel silly. How did I read "any remaining guardsman" as "one remaining guardsman"?

>>52591633
Lord is better on bike

>>52591679
It probably is, but I've already painted and modeled the juggerlord.

>>52591679
That's BS
>>52591793
Juggernaut is wayyy better

>>52591603
Looks fine, the archon and his squad are much more flexible now, he can take on any target as along as he passes all his 2+ saves.

>>52591808
she never passes all her saves.

The only opp I've ever gotten more than S4 was orks.

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>>52591178
My robot bro, I just received pic related. My Overlord has the most qt3.14 royal court.

>>52591633
Kit the bikes out, some with melta some with plasma

>>52591178
Where'd you get that? I play skitarii and I like the look of that model

>>52591827
That's why I said 'if'.

I run mine similar and I managed to yolo a crisis commander to death by tanking three squads worth of plasma fire on a 2++.

How are the dark eldar Wych cults gonna perform in shadow war? I was thinking of starting them since they are only 18 pounds for a pack.

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Alright, been messing around with the fancy picture list thingy and taking into account the crit I've gotten so far from this thread. How does this look for a casual, fluffy list?

How is ok for a Tau commander to have 4 wounds while a sorcerer has 2?

>>52591934
Stick a sorcerer in a crisis suit and it would have 3 wounds.

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>>52591474
>Extend Crusades that stopped by the Gothic/Ultima border clear through to the Maelstrom
Compare Valhalla's position to their endpoints.
>shuffle the obscurus/solar border so it looks like Abby made it 3/4 of the way towards Earth instead of barely halfway
Previously you could draw a line between El'Phanor and Armageddon and that was the furthest they got. Their positions have shifted radially around Terra and away from each other, bringing that imaginary line closer to Terra, and now the Crusades cross even that traverse.
>Belis Corona got shoved way out to near the border, and the 2nd crusade isn't aimed at it, despite even the updated lore claiming it did
Pic related.

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>>52591956
>Heavily gene-augmented human
>Thousands of years of experience
>Knowledge of dark arcane arts
W2

>Regular Tau Fire Caste
>A frail race inferior to even humans
>maybe like 30-60 years old?
>In a decent sized suit of armor
W4

>>52590818
unlike the veterans you can only take one special weapon in a regular infantry squad so you'll have to prune a flamer and grenade launcher. You've also got Heavy slots to spare so I'd take the two Russes as separate units so you're not wasting shot.
Finally I'm not keen on HK missiles 10pts for a one shot Krak missile that's only going to hit half the time isn't worth IMHO infinite range or no. I'd scrap them and together with the saving from the aforementioned specials you've got 30pts for more heavy weapons or you could try to save another 10 pts and grab a third sentinal

Do you guys use dangerous terrain in your game tables? My group never seems to use anything but ruins and woods. Always ruins and fucking woods.

>>52589586
Pask Grants Rending and Has Preferred enemy in addition to rerolling penetrations. Hence:

>20 Shots
>13.333 hits
>2.222 hits on preferred enemy = 15.555 hits
Against AV14, Need 6s for rend:
>15.555/6=2.59
>2.16 on rerolling penetrations = 4.75 rends
Strength 5+6=11; Need 3s to glance AV14
>4.75/3=1.58

So you get between 1 and 2 glances average using Pask with the lowest strength gun you can put on a Russ. Now add in the multimeltas...

>>52589244
...I probably am the autistic one out of everyone there.

I feel pretty out of place still and it's been almost two years now.

I don't think I'm a bad player, except for when it came to trying to run skitarii and my interpretation of the dunestrider and scout rule.

I don't do well at all that's for sure.

>>52591934
Crisis suits effectively give +1 wound, and the Commanders piloting them effectively have 3 wounds. This is more of a matter of GW liking to use wounds as a representation of experience when it comes to HQs.

A lot of factions have that where you have utility HQs with 2 wounds, Captain-level dudes with 3, and then the main Chapter-master style guys with 4.

>>52591934

>Tau commanders have 4 attacks, same as Chaos Lords and Chapter Masters

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>52592008
>high ranking unaugmented normal human who commands some men
W3

its a game convention that "main heroes" have 3 wounds, "supporting heroes" have 2 wounds.
And crisis suits have +1 wound.

Follow the logic please.

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>>52592069
Chaos lords have 3 attacks.... yeah

>>52592099

See >>52592069

What's the logic there?

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>>52591859
Wargames exclusive. They have a bunch of 40k ripoff stuff, much of it a bit porno.

Does anyone know some models which would work well for wyrdvane psykers? Ideally, ones which fit alongside the GW ones, which I think look awesome but don't want duplicate models.

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My Warband is coming along. I got 3 more dudes down and the dread ready for glue. All that's left is 3 more dudes, a terminator, finishing the dread, and a chaos spawn, and my 1000pts will be ready to play. After that, it's just a matter of batch painting squads.

Have you guys made any progress on that backlog yet?

>>52592144
I just finished up my own Warband. I only now realize that it's 4000 points worth, give or take.

Now I'm just in a weird limbo where I don't know what to work on next.

>>52590755
>bunch of neets living underground messing with computers all day

I wonder why.

>>52592123
because crisis suits also provide +1 attack, as noted by regular suits having A2, and suit seargents having A3

A crisis suit unofficially gives +1T, +2S, +1A, +1W, if you compare the base troopers/heros profile to the crisis equivalent.

>>52592144
I just barely managed to assemble my Steel Legion army for this weekend's game. I should also expand my Sisters of Battle and decide if I'm just gonna store my Space Marines away or sell them or something.
And I want to start a Death Guard army once the new models come out
>>52592100
I find it almost funny how it seems no matter how I try to kit out my HQ choices the enemy characters always squash them.

>>52586576
What armies are not immune to fear nowadays? I was thinking it could be fun to add the Dolorous Knell DG-artifact (nearby units cause fear, enemies take tests on 3d6) and also hopefully summoning in a herald with the -1ld to all enemy units while alive nurgle artifact (summon early on if I roll incursion on daemonology, hide in backline or hidden away in my deploymentzone or something just to be a pain in the ass to kill off). But I hear Fear is kind of useless against most armies.

>>52590606
You need at least 1 Vox caster if you're going to combine those infantry squads. Veterans are somewhat of a waste if you're not going to give them Special Weapons.

You're probably better off splitting those russes up, so Battle cannon with battle cannon, etc.

Other wise looks pretty fun for 1500

>>52590218
Link to eBay?

>>52590818
Don't put heavy bolter sponsons on a battle tank: The ordinance rule means they have to fire snap shots. If you want sponsons on the Vanquisher go ahead as it's not using an ordinance weapon.

Drop the HKM's on the sentinels and give them both Plasma Cannons. Plasma Cannons cost the same as HKMs on Sentinels, but don't suffer from one-shot syndrome.

Split the tanks into separate squadrons.

>>52592209
Some chaos marine armies, Eldar, Genecultists, Necrons and Orks.
Ad-Mech? not sure.

>>52591831
Anything specific I should give the biker champions, like claws/fists or just melta/plasma on them too?

>>52592264
Pretty sure Eldar get fucked over by fear pretty badly. Orks aren't fearless without the formation. GSC aren't fearless.

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>be looking for a friendly game of 40k, 1850 points, no formations, nice balanced lists welcome
>a guy comes up to me
>"hey anon wanna play a quick game?"
>"sure, I'm playing CSM, nothing fancy, some plague marines, bikes a helbru-"
>"I'm bringing 5 flyrants, you're cool with that, right?"

Why do these people exist? And why do they think anyone's going to play againts them?

>>52592029

Didn't the 6th edition rulebook have random tables to make woods and shit more interesting?

>>52592277
Usually cheaper to just give them a power weapon, or even an Axe of Khorne (KDK characters can take those right?)

If you take a combi-melta/plasma there's a bit of controversy about if you can replace the combi-bolter. I'd go with yes, but check with your opponent. Usually it's a good idea to take them though.

>>52592264
Necrons are army-wide ld 10 though. I play Necrons and fight daemons consistently and it never really matters in the long run.

>>52592209
>>52592264
any non-marine imperial army, although guard have easy access to fearless through priests.
Tau
Eldar

non-cult chaos marines
orks
dark eldar
necrons (ish, ld10)

>>52592264
Allright, well I guess I'll try it out in alternative lists against those armies at least then.
>>52592340
The point of that artifact is that ld tests are taken on 3d6 though, so should be usable, especially when lowering them to 9 if I get a herald in. However, it feels like I've already beaten a majority of a necron armies if I'm in CC, not sure if fear would do much at that point.

>>52592326
Yes, but I don't want random, no one in my group does.

>>52592286
Eldar dont care about fear because they don't really want to go in to combat.

>>52592422
How many close combat units do they have again? Like, 7 or so?

Eldar have some of the best close combat in the game, and part of it is their initiative and high WS.

With fear you can cripple the main two things that make Eldar deadly in melee.

>>52592456
But wraith knights are fearless?
No one uses storm guardians
No one uses banshees
No one uses scorpions
No one uses wraith blades...

Wait, we're talking about all eldar, right? People use the other, less powerful variants too?
Yeah, I guess they wouldn't like it.

>>52592456
the issue is that eldar are EVEN BETTER at shooting, and no one builds eldar melee lists because they are relatively squishy or expensive and have no assault transports

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>>52592330
Yeah, they can take the axe but it'd put me over the 1k limit so I just stuck with a power weapon.

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>A model may replace his boltgun, bolt pistol and/or Melee weapon with one of the following:

>Boltgun - free
>Storm bolter - 5 pts
>Combi-flamer, -grav, -melta or -plasma - 10 pts
>Grav-pistol or plasma pistol - 15 pts

So... A model that can take from the ranged weapons list can replace his bolt pistol or melee weapon with one of the following.
Could a model equip two combi-weapons?

When's 8th edition due? July or June earliest?

>>52592626
Hell, he could take three, apparently. Presuming they have a boltgun, bolt pistol and a melee weapon.

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>>52592254
Okay how would you rate this list instead. I'm not sure if its worth keeping the sentinels but I kinda like their models and i'm mostly just making this list for fun rather then a extreme competitive list.

>>52592627
the blocked space is mid june or mid july
Money is on Mid-June being 8th and Mid-July being GH2 for AOS

>>52592599
Uh... the bikes have combi-bolters/twin-linked boltguns build in, so you don't really need to buy another for the champions.

>>52592686
Well now I feel retarded. Thanks, I'm still new to this.

>>52592694
No worries

>>52590934
Alpha Legion don't worship chaos anon. They only joined chaos so that they could fight it from within and follow some secret agendas. Alpha Legion operates against both the Imperium, and against Chaos. As far as we know, half of them are loyalists, and the other half are traitors.

>>52590908
I'M SO FUCKING READY FOR THIS

>>52592727
Some of them do. The was an Alpha Legion lord in Wrath of Magnus that was really big on Chaos, and even started a major daemonic incursion