Jumpchain CYOA Thread #1429: Tasty Benefactor Poon Edition

So is it a bad idea to use orphans as a power source?

>>52586509
Yes. You ever seen Venture Brothers?

>>52586536
Nope. I mean nobody is using them so why not use them for energy? I can work them to death on giant hamster wheels then use their organs as magic ingredients or sell them for parts.

If I do good I can even use them to make more orphans!

>>52586509
Yes, orphans are sub optimal. It is entirely preferable to create a new power source from the ground up.

>>52586560
so kill people's parents then?

>>52586509
Never use orphans, it is easier to enslave entire families and use the children as incentive.

>>52586491
Delet This.

>>52586560
It worked just fine in flapjack.

>>52586509
Hey, Kirei did just fine with his orphan battery.

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whats there to do in fate?

>>52586509
Yes, because then either one of them will escape or one of their family members will end up coming after you. And then you're fighting against narrative causality as the underdog hero struggles to defeat the evil orphan enslaver. You've practically ensured your own horrible defeat.

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>>52586594
Well, there's Tiamat.

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>>52586509
Kirei is that you?

>>52586649
I kinda want to, but I'm currently planing on Arc/Arche and Gaia, so I kinda dun wanna. It would be like inviting a third cousin twice removed to you mom/daughter threesome.

What have you accomplished today jumper?

>>52587390
Real life or in character? Out of character I made a build for Exalted Dragonblooded, in character I made a design for a matrioska brain the size of a galaxy and have started development. Right now it's about the size of the solar system.

>>52587450
>matrioska brain
What?

>>52587390
I finished the samurai perk line for ffxi I think

Hybrid Demons in SMT only use the best stats of each race, right? Non-unique things don't stack?

>>52587482
A matrioshka brain (I misspelled it, god damn) is a superstructure like a dyson sphere, it surrounds a star and uses that energy to perform computations. My design isn't really that, but rather based on it. I have a different energy source at the center and am using a combination of technology from places like Supreme Commander to continuously make it bigger, and therefore making it capable of performing more calculations.

>>52587550
I suggest hitting up Blame then and getting some info on how they made their dyson solar system.

>>52587482
Think of a giant computer that's wrapped around a star for power needs.

>>52587601
I've technically already been there, but I haven't gotten into Blame yet and every time it gets mentioned I'm reminded of how much of a gold mine it is for science jumpers. I'll go take a look.

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>>52587390
Personally I've been looking up some stuff on Old Walkers because of a conversation we had last Thread. Getting a hold on some of the books would have been difficult but my sister had most of them so I got to read through the some pre-Mending books without having to shell out any cash. As far as I can tell there's no evidence to upport the guy who was saying that pre-Mending Walker Sparks were weaksauce/the same as post-Mending.

So quick update on the Stellaris Jump, I've decided to remove the Empire Starting Tech sections and replace them with a generic gear and items section, both due to the almost impossible to scale nature of Stellaris technology, and the fact that I may not have the time to finish it.

That being said however the Jump should be finished by May if not sooner.

>>52587834
What innate abilities do they have?

Actually, does the Spark itself generate mana? Because otherwise don't people have to draw mana from mana bonds that are time consuming? Why do they get an immediate power boost?

>>52587865
Nice, thanks stella. Any hint on wether we will be getting some of that sweet dysin ring tech or wandering ball of AI tech? The ai one was neat, do some favors and he rewarded you with a research upgrade.

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I believe this is (or we've passed) my one year anniversary with /jc/. May our mutual autism last for a thousand more threads.

I'm dedicating today and tomorrow to work on FF1 and drafting other jump ideas. And I'm going to see about finally updating Heaven's Lost Property and add more stuff to DxD if I can get the time.

>>52587916
Oh yeah, totally in an undiscounted section. Playing a game with the spear was amazing so there's no way I'd leave it out.

>>52587662
>every time it gets mentioned I'm reminded of how much of a gold mine it is for science jumpers
It isn't. it's just part of the meme.

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>>52587959
>I believe this is (or we've passed) my one year anniversary with /jc/. May our mutual autism last for a thousand more threads.

Congratulations bro!, And time sure flies doesn't it?

I'm pretty sure we don't have a mega man star force jump, but doesn't it take place 100 or so years after one of the others? Are there any 'stay for 100 years' drawbacks I can keep in order to go there the long way?

>>52587662
It really isn't; all the stuff that is worth studying by a tech jumper is heavily decayed, extremely dangerous to mess with, in the hands of the Silicone creatures, and/or spawns SuddenlySafeguard.gif if you go near it.

>>52588066
Not everyone's lazy anon

>>52588066
So it requires you to either fight powerful foes or take stupid risks in order to acquire it. Yeah, that's definitely not something jumpers do in pursuit of power. How silly of us to propose that.

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>>52587874
Pre-Mending, those with an activated planeswalker's spark had additional innate powers; they were almost immortal (Ageless/immune to illness/etc), invulnerable (Could only be killed by another Planeswalker), granted vast magical power, and could shapeshift. This is in addition to the ability to just 'feel' other Planes, really helpful in the Blind Eternities, and Planeswalking in general, though I did find a passage about some Planeswalkers not being able to Walk further than the local area because they lacked the power to do so, because the Blind Eternities require constant output far outside the range of a normal wizard or witches' abilities to keep up or something along those lines. Post-Mending Sparks could get all of the above through other means but they didn't innately start out with it, which annoyed Nico Bolas something awful.

Pre-Mending Sparks seem to have able to produce their own Mana, which is awesome and terrifying if Gaunlet's whole one Mana is tapping out an entire land for days thing is for real. Drawing Mana from Mana Bonds seems to be a more efficent way of drawing Mana, because it doesn't effect your innate reserve at all to throw around the lands Mana, but until recently the Planeswalkers had trouble keeping bonds across multiple planes working, no idea why just that it was a thing.

I don't know the whys for the Pre-Mending power boost but I do know that the Mending itself changed the Spark in a number of ways, it was their explanation for Revisionist retcons which nerfed the Spark pretty hard in some places.

>>52587662
If you're looking for tech, Halo has stronger tech on all fronts, from superstructure construction to AI to weapons. The perk from Halo for science will stomp the entire setting of Blame flat into the ground.

>>52588104
Which perk was it?

>>52588104
>The perk from Halo for science will stomp the entire setting of Blame flat into the ground.

I don't remember Master Chief shooting through miles of a structure too dense to exist in normal gravity conditions, killing a being that can teleport chunks of a sun as an attack and surviving long enough buried in lava for it to have hardened.

>>52588101
>invulnerable (Could only be killed by another Planeswalker)
Bolas getting shanked by Tetsuo Umezawa begs to differ.

>>52588104
Also, Halo AIs go crazy naturally rather than because of weird gene cults ruining everything, and are nowhere near as good at interfacing with the physical world. As in, they can't turn people into clarktech robots seemingly with a touch.

>>52588066
None of that is a problem, really. The most dangerous things in setting (as far as I'm aware) are the Safeguard, but they won't attack me since I've got the Net Terminal Gene.

>>52588104
Are you sure? As far as I can tell Halo has nothing on par with the megastructure nor anything close to the capabilities of the GBE unless we include stuff on par with Halo array, which are super weapons that behave in a completely different manner

>>52587959

Oh, if you get FF1 finished, I'd love to start a chain using that. (Oh, please include a 'generic' companion option. Keep in mind we need three other companions unless taking the disad to 'solo' the game.)

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>>52587959
Oh, right. I should probably give the head's up on my plans for the Heaven's Lost Property update. Ye who enjoy waifu robots, listen closely.

A few things is that this was made a bit before I began to actively contribute to the power creep (I am so, so sorry), and there's a few weird design decisions I made at the time due to my inexperience. So here are my plans:

>1. Give Angelroids a proper perk tree, and change their current perks into a subsection.
>2. Include an option/booster that makes you akin to Ikaros or Chaos. Probably an expensive subsection item
>3. Remove the weird caps on Pandora, but balance it a bit so it's not just a spontaneous altform generator for MK1. MK2 will work the same way it does it canon.
>4. Expand the perk trees for civilians, since they're a bit random and lacking in themes. Considering a 1/1/2/2/4/4/6/6 format, though I might not bother adding another capstone.
>5. Synapse Residents will get more tech options.
>6. Cheaper canon companion options with less conditions attached. I went a bit ham on the mandatory drawbacks on things that would otherwise be a given.

Any thoughts or input on what to do for the update will be welcome.

>>52588104
That's cute, anon. You're cute. Pretty much everything you said there is a lie. And I know you won't back down from the lie, because you really just want to start an argument. Maybe because it's a Dirge jump and you want to make arguments be associated with hi, maybe just because you like to argue on the internet. I don't know. Either way, you're a sad little person.

>>52588104
The only thing in HALO that comes near the City is the Rings, and considering the City's mass actually FILLS UP the solar system-sized space it's commonly cited to take up I wouldn't be surprised if it's actually much denser.

>>52588137
I have no idea what he's talking about either. At no point does HALO access alternate universe, unlike Blame@

>>52588066
Have netgenes and you can just order the ai to give you info.

Oh and I'd love to know how to get special dispensation for SDA to make a Stardust jump.

>>52588167
-1/10, there was no effort this time.

>>52588119
It's no perk, because the tech perk in Halo just gives you mastery of human science, which is incredibly far behind Forerunner tech, which is itself far behind Blame tech. The only way you can say it's better is if you supremely wank and say "well, the ancient species that the Forerunner were at war with were actual humans before they blasted us back to the stone age and wiped out any trace of our star empire, so mastering human tech means you have a mastery of that". Which is dumb.

>>52588185
And even that's debatable, because if ancient humans had anything on par to what the City could do when properly operational-they would've won. Because they could've just drowned the Forerunners in Safeguard-level drones or something

>>52588137
Halo Wars 2 confirms extremely large Forerunner Megastructures. And Halo Arrays do trump GBE handsdown but the Composer is probably a better comparison.

>>52588132
Rampancy has been solved by the Forerunner cosmic network. The second problem you brought up was solved by Cortana being given a body by the Forerunner enlightenment. The third issue is also solved by Forerunner tech with instant replication.

>>52588121
Halo Ring Activation > your GBE.

>>52588119
I think it should either be the Reclaimer jump in the Covenant jump or the USMC science perk in one of the originals, since all of the important tech is Forerunner.

>>52588200
Also, and I just checked to make sure, it says you have a mastery of modern human technology, specifically. So yeah, no, it's impossible.

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>>52588130
The Meteor Hammer spell was used by Tetsuo Umezawa to destroy the Imperial Shrine and thus rob Nicol Bolas of the mana base he needed to manifest in Dominaria whilst the dragon was in the Meditation Plane, trapping the dragon in a spirit world in question.

Bolas didn't die he was forced out of Dominaria by putting all his eggs in one basket. He was kinda pissy about that too and left to go beat the tar out of Night's Reach because she's the reason that Tetsuo existed on Dominaria in the first place.

>>52588157
You sound like a dipshit wanting to bring up your Dirge for no good reason. If you want to bring him up that badly you should go over to SB where you can rave about him all you want.

>>52588159
That's not true, I'm not sure if you're up to date on Installation 00, but the ending scene of Halo Wars 2 confirms it making a Ring, and the Ring being about 2 - 3 % of the Ark in size.

>>52588208
Do you know what the forerunner megastructures are called? I'd like to take a look.

>>52588208
You just seem like a rabid fanboy for all things HALO, because absolutely none of this sounds terribly better than what's in Blame! other than the rings (which are far, far less practical than the GBE) and possibly the Megastructures, which you haven't convinced me are anywhere close to filling up an entire solar system's worth of space while branching into alternate universes, and having the potential to spread out even further.

>>52588255
Also, assume I know nothing about the Ark. Why is 2-3% of it impressive compared to the City?

>>52588221
Reclaimer-800 CP: The holy relics that the divine forerunners left behind do not yield easily. They seem to lack any and all respect for the noble scions of the covenant. Only when many prying, inquisitive eyes have been laid upon them do they finally yield portions of their holy wisdom. Not for you, jumper. For the great god machines recognize you as a "Reclaimer"- and not only yield to your touch, but invite you further, to share in their knowledge and delve into their structures. Post-jump, all structures left behind by ancient, long-dead alien races shall recognize you as heir in much the same manner.

Yo /jc.

What android game would you want a jump of?

>>52588276
I think people were under the impression you were recommending a how-to-build-tech perk rather than just seizing existing tech.

Not here to take a side, just saying.

>>52588278
Fruit Ninja.

>>52588278
Gonna have to be a tie between Plants vs Zombies and Burrito Bison

I just want to go fast and bounce hard

>>52588208
>Halo Wars 2 confirms extremely large Forerunner Megastructures. And Halo Arrays do trump GBE handsdown but the Composer is probably a better comparison.
Still smaller than the City. Installation 00 is the size of a planet, the City is the size of a solar system. Many orders of magnitude larger than the largest Forerunner megastructure. There are empty spaces in the City larger than it. And yeah, the Halo Arrays and Composer might trump the GBE, but the GBE is a personal weapon. Not even a main gun, it's a sidearm. Scale it up to the same size as those Forerunner super-weapons, and it will be more powerful.

>>52588276
Oh, I see. I thought you were talking about perks that give you knowledge of Forerunner tech inherently, which we don't have any of. If you just want to examine and learn from their tech, maybe, but it's still worse overall than the City's.

>>52588271
Most of them are referred to as installations by the humans.

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>>52588145
>A few things is that this was made a bit before I began to actively contribute to the power creep (I am so, so sorry), and there's a few weird design decisions I made at the time due to my inexperience. So here are my plans:

You did nothing wrong bro, Power creep was always a thing in jumpchain long before you were here. Also will those angelroids that the jumper can create still count as followers?

>>52588271
The ark is one, its bigger than earth but its a flat earth kinda deal, I think thats the biggest thing the forerunners made.

But if you have good enough computer skills then you could just download all the info in the archive.

>>52588246
Looking into that again, it appears that's true, and Planeswalker need enormous amounts of mana to manifest on a plane.

...That's actually worse than before.


Additionally, the wiki says he was then lain by Tetsuo in the Meditation Plane, without the access to stupid amounts of mana from Dominaria.
>Using the Meteor Hammer spell, Tetsuo destroyed Bolas's Imperial Shrine, while Bolas's body was inside, severing the elder dragon's anchor to Dominaria completely. The dragon had abandoned his body, unaware of the trap, and followed Tetsuo to the Meditation Plane, where he was killed by Umezawa in this weakened state.

>>52588321
They...never did, to my knowledge? At least, I never really made a ruling on that, since everyone handles 'beings I created/my progeny' differently. If that's how folks wanted to do it, I wouldn't make a fuss about it.

tl;dr It's one of those universal rules I don't think much about, so that's up to you.

>>52587865
Hey there. Bought the update? How is it?

>>52588275
Its not as impressive. The city is the size of a solar system. The ark is the size of a planet.

>>52588275
And you come across as a rabid Blame fanboy trying to wank your setting equally hard, so what's your point? If you want to get down to the details there are plenty of advantages, most of which you don't seem to want to acknowledge over wanking about your structure's solar system size.

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>>52588159
>and considering the City's mass actually FILLS UP the solar system-sized space

>The solar system is 1.4×10^43km^3 (to Terminal Shock)

>The amount of atoms in the observable universe is estimated to be 10^83

>Dividing by Avogadro's constant and you get 1.66*10^58 moles

>Being generous with the density of material we'll say its an average of .03m^3/mol

>this comes to a total volume of 4.98*10^53km^3

Well... I guess.

>>52588276
>>52588104

>stomp the entire setting

You seem to be unaware or absurdly optimistic about the difficulty of taking HALO rings to another jump, positioning and activating them.

Also I can't help but notice according to the wiki, the Rings operate by "harmonising all neurological frequencies" which, while impressive for the scale it operates on, is an apples and oranges kind of thing compared to the raw firepower Blame! tech is most sought after for.

>>52588354
Knew it.

>>52588308
>>52588328
I think Blame might be a better deal for megastructures, then, considering both the size as well as the near indestructible nature of the material. Halo is probably better for hardlight, though, which I plan to incorporate in the Brain.

so what I'm seeing is I need to include a City and a GBE for CP to replace the Blame jump, or just a science perk that gives them both.

>>52588388
You want "Hard Light" Go to star trek.

>>52588275
>which you haven't convinced me are anywhere close to filling up an entire solar system's worth of space while branching into alternate universes, and having the potential to spread out even further.
They're objectively not. The largest Forerunner constructs are the Shield Worlds, which have a diameter of around three hundred million kilometers. Pretty big, sure. But the City has a diameter of thirty AU. That's over four BILLION kilometers. And the Shield Worlds are hollow, they're "Micro Dyson Spheres" to use the franchise's term. The City is a continuous structure throughout. It has hollow spaces, sure, but even if only a tenth of its volume was solid that would still make it three orders of magnitude more massive than the Shield Worlds.

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>>52588337
It's not that it takes a lot of Mana to manifest but by splitting his spirit and body apart the only way he could manage the transfer back from the Meditation Plane would have been to create an entirely new body out of pure Aether, which takes power by the gallon because even way back when Bolas was a Dragon you could summon he cost a pretty penny to summon. See pic related.

Lets say Yandere Simulator jump exists. Would you rather be The Yan, or The Senpai?

>>52588278
Gacha World. Cuz imma weeb, and i wanna waifu the fairy.

>>52588388
Another think the city has going is the builder bots, they just kind of extrude beams of that semi unbreakable stuff to make the place bigger.

>>52588369
>if you want to get down to the details there are plenty of advantages

Get this through your thick skull: I totally believe you. I'm more than happy to accept HALO tech likely has greater versatility in other areas (the high end biotech seems more impressive, if nothing else, since the Silicon Life really aren't doing so hot).

But YOU'RE the one who threw down the gauntlet by declaring HALO would stomp Blame! Which is wank without a very, very good justification for a setting which has not demonstrated the ability to travel to alternate universes.

>>52588421
I would pay CP to be an NPC and stay out of that un-romance.

>>52588421
This is tough as Yan is my fav dere, but I would probably go full Yan and lock my senpai up and make them mine.

>>52588421
I'd rather be Infochan. I mean being a yandere would be fun, but Yanchan is fucked in the head in a not fun way.

>>52588420
That's odd, because the description of the Imperial Shrine says he needs a ton of mana to stay on a plane.

>The Imperial Shrine was the place where the highest ranking officers in the Madaran Empire had their audiences with emperor Nicol Bolas. The elder dragon needed tremendous amounts of mana to stay on a plane for long, so he usually only manifested partially in the shrine, which was located in the middle of three strong mana lines: blue from the Suido River, black from Madara’s various swamps and red from the Gitte-Yatay Mountains.

>>52588430
I don't actually know that much about HALO construction stuff but to be fair-don't they mainly make superstructures out of hardlight? So logically they wouldn't need as many drones in theory; I'm not the HALO advocate though

>>52588448
Infochan is pure evil

I can see the appeal

>>52588414
How does it compare to, what was it, Red Dwarf? The hard light there is nearly indestructible, IIRC, it just had the issue of being easily short circuited.

>>52588467
The tech is holographic projectors with micro force fields. They get to the point of being able to recreate ships that can actually deal damage while their only weakness is their projector.

>>52588348
It was just a bit of information about some changes. I'll probably get another Doc update in a week or so.

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>>52588421
Midori is my spirit animal

>>52588394
Thing is the City would have to be at least 600 CP or even higher and bringing it around is troublesome unless you're going to make it a warehouse extension. Cheaper or free GBEs will probably be pretty popular though. Best of luck anon.

>>52588466
Well the blame bots have some really awesome stuff going on, but halo has much better hardlight.

On the other hand the ai in blame can physically create matter at will.

On the other other hand halo has much better ways of getting around, you can hop in a teleporter on any spot and just zip to another area, mc in blame has to walk. Halo also has a better setup for if shit goes wrong. If something screws up you can usually push a big red button or blow it up, the city requires super specific key genes to change a lightbulb.

>>52588388
Pure firepower, too. However salty the other guy acts about GBEs, as I found out earlier the Halo array is just a radiation burst weapon. So if you need a door knocked down in a hurry, GBE's your uncle.

Heck, I'd still say Blame! has an edge when it comes to drone deployment. From what I saw of the hardlight AIs in the latest game, they weren't moving anywhere near as fast as the higher level Safeguards, nor spawning as fast as a significant breach, nor were they deploying similar levels of ordinance

>>52588394
>>52588506
Please don't actually replace the Blame! jump. I like my build for it as is. Keep your City by all means.

>>52588506
>>52588523
Pretty sure that guy's just making a joke and isn't going to actually replace it.

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>>52588342

Thanks bro and I can't wait for the update

>>52588517
Yeah, that sounds about right. Blame!'s only answer to teleportation is sorta ambiguous and seems to look like stepping into the Net Sphere, and popping out somewhere else it's connected. I'm sure HALO teleporters are more reliable than it too. But on the flip side, again-transuniversal transit.

>>52588535
That's a relief

>>52588523
>Please don't actually replace the Blame! jump. I like my build for it as is
The replacement jump should be offering everything the original had at a cheaper price or through alternative means. If anything it'll help your build.

>>52588546
It shouldn't, and I'm saying my build doesn't need to be helped. It's a joke and you're blatantly fishing for (you)s though, so it's a moot point.

>>52588499
I'm so sorry, that must be horrible.

>>52588394
>replace the Blame jump
Mixed feelings on that idea, on the one hand a Blame jump that is digestible and isn't longer than the manga itself would be nice.

On the other hand it feels somewhat dirty.

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>>52588456
Tremendous amounts is likely eight Mana, again if Gaunlet's whole idea of just how much a single Mana is, though as his own page notes he was only using three Mana lines to manifest so... Also it seems that Bolas was there after a huge Planeswalker fight. Even when murdered twice the Elder Dragon still lingered, diminished but still very much alive even though his body and spirit were killed.

>>52588575
Too dirty for my tastes honestly, especially when there's a summarised table at the bottom of the jump that makes the perks at least clearer. Not a perfect solution, but it's something and there's worse on there-like the Berserk jump, for example

>>52588535
I've been thinking on how to replace it for a while now, the only thing is choosing which perks to keep and which ones to replace. Items wise there are other things to be offered like Builder bot or silicon life armies.

>>52588601
Don't go through with this. I'm going to be frank: For all the flaws in the current jump, you'd have some big damn shoes to fill, and there's elements I suspect you'd nix entirely like the scenarios. It just doesn't seem worth it when those options you mentioned are already available in roundabout ways, and as >>52588590 said there already is a fix and there's worse stuff on the drive

>>52588575
Yeah the existing Blame jump has too many problems for me to use it, so I thought I might as well give it a go to make something better. I don't know what you mean by dirty though, this is one of the jumps that was offered for replacement, just seems like a good opportunity for it.

>>52588630
I've never had any problems with using it. What problems do you have?

>>52588627
>big damn shoes to fill
I don't really think so. There's nothing that special in the Blame jump, maybe the only thing that's special is the scenario, and I can just write a paragraph to make scenarios if people want it that badly.

>>52588337
So it seems like Planeswalkers are actually better off post-mending? Mana bonds are easier and you don't have to chug mana just to physically interact with a Plane? So Neowalkers need to just git gud and find a better method of immortality than selling your soul to four different demons.

>>52588394
If you are being serious the only thing that has to be included is a GBE, otherwise go nuts.

>>52588657
The design of the jump is really stupid if you think about it carefully, because if you don't take the scenario then you're locked to ten years which is barely any time in Blame perspective. Aside from that, the perks aren't all that strong and just feel like things that the backgrounds should have to begin with. It feels like a tired point but just the wordiness of it is a major problem. Most of the jump can be summed up in one or two sentences but instead we get paragraphs and paragraphs.

>>52588670
I like how a lot of the perks are fluffed
I like the unique atmosphere the jump intro conveys
I like the formatting, actually.
And I like the customisable item, those are rare

You on the other hand sound like you have a grossly inflated opinion of your own skills. I like the big scenarios, and the character development they present. If you feel so strongly about this why not make the jump for yourself to enjoy rather than forcing me to have fun your way?

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>>52588702
Please see >>52588576

>>52588748
Not everybody likes the same thing as you. Just because you like it doesn't make it good, and everything you've brought up has been problems for other people in the past. I don't think I have a grossly inflated opinion of my own skills at all. No one is forcing you to have fun in some way, you can just grandfather clause it if you want.

>>52588723
This is so incorrect it hurts

>>52588724
>you're locked to ten years

I dislike you a lot, but I have no counterargument at the moment.

>the perks aren't all that strong

That's hardly accurate or a valid criticism, plenty of gotten by with less than a jumpsuit and a GBE. You can get structures that can mass produce safeguards, for crying out loud. The gal Killy protects has NONE of what's on offer.

>just feel like things that the backgrounds should have to begin with

Is it too much of a stretch to interpret them as improved forms of what they do have?

>the wordiness of it is a major problem

I like the wordiness. A casual summary wouldn't convey the setting's atmosphere. You clearly do not, but it's a dark day if that's ever a reason to remake a jump.

>>52588829
Take your own damn advice, then. You're admitting you want to remake the jump purely based on personal preference, so get off that high horse

>I don't think I have a grossly inflated opinion of my own skills

Look, I'm not petty enough to demand you reveal what jumps you've made. I'm just going to point out that this is a silly statement to come right after asking someone to be unbiased in their judgements, without any evidence to back themselves up

>>52588835
>I like the wordiness. A casual summary wouldn't convey the setting's atmosphere. You clearly do not, but it's a dark day if that's ever a reason to remake a jump.

I don't see it that way. Jumps should be easy to read and easy to use. This isn't that at all. A casual summary can do a good job of telling the jumper what they need to know in order to make a story. This is pretty much bringing the Blame up to our current quality standards.

What's the name of the Infernal charm that makes you immortal except to things that could kill a spirit or something like that?

>>52587520
Hella late, but that is basically correct.

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Does this mean I can replace the Touhou jump next

Oh god I was just kidding PUT THE BOTTLE DOWN

Any thoughts on >>52588145 by the by? This is probably going to change up a few builds, so I want to know if the extent of the changes might seem unnecessary or not.

>>52588911
I think that's a stylistic choice for the jump maker and I think that Dirge's jumps are beautiful in that way and convey a deeper sense of the setting. Then most other jumps.

>>52588873
I've pointed out several objective flaws with this jump and the only thing you've said in rebuttal is that you like those flaws. I don't see anything wrong with wanting to remake the jump because I see flaws with it, and it isn't like this is without the original jumpmaker's permission, so what really is so bad about a remake?

>>52588911
Well, I agree that there's a balance to be fonud between flavor and ease of use; I am taking the position that in the case of the existing Blame! jump, the pros outweigh the cons and do not justify an outright replacement based on personal preference.

I would also posit certain jumps lend themselves better to casual summaries than others. To take some non-Dirge examples, Sword & Sorcery is straightforward because it's a generic with famous derivatives, and Supernatural is straightforward because its' premise is largely formulaic. On the other hand Ar Tonelico has a lot of unique setting features that need explaining in the jump, and only the other day people were asking lots about the less detailed Ciel Nosurge

You seem more concerned with your personal quality standards than anyone else's.

>>52588421

I would like an option to import a yandere companion and a Sempai origin please

>>52586509

Well, who's going to complain? Their parents?

>>52588835
>I like the wordiness. A casual summary wouldn't convey the setting's atmosphere.
I remember dirge lamenting his inability to be concise. Though I also remember him lamenting the fact that he's better at communicating in English than translating Chinese to English.

>>52588956
That all sounds good to me, Heavens.

>>52588984
I don't think these are personal quality standards at all. It's not that hard to compare Blame to the jumps that have come up recently and see the problems that the jump has. Blame is a simple setting with a straightforward story, it never needed any complex explanation.

>>52588969
Out of the ones you pointed out, I only consider the one about jump duration and background relevance to be objective. The rest-perk stength and wordiness-are value judgements, not statements of fact.

Don't see anything wrong? How about the fact that you've less than nothing to justify the confidence you keep boasting of when you're treating scenarios as an afterthought? Or that as hard as it may be for you to believe, some people actually like the jump and it was generally well received when first posted here?

>>52588506

Mm, though it isn't really a big deal - there are already arbitrarily large warehouse attachments.

Ultimately it's just a location. Post-spark, you can just go back to the original city.

At worst, it might do with a limit on simply pouring an endless wave of killing machines and resources out of a portal - but you can do something similar to that with SupCom.

>>52589074
>arbitrarily large warehouse attachments

There are? The only one I remember is the ocean from MGS, and that one mainly got in because everyone went REEEEE about their endless source of hydrogen suddenly becoming finite

Personally I don't think the City-the whole City-should be a purchase at all, when it's the setting of the entire manga. And that opens up the possibility of buying Middle-Earth in a hypothetical LOTR jump, or Primus in a hypothetical Transformers jump insert jumper waifu joke here

>>52589069
I don't want any part in this charade and I'm still convinced this is a dedicated troll, but when have scenarios not been an afterthought? They're just drawbacks with more prizes than just CP. Didn't SMT or Desu do exactly that with their drawbacks even?

>>52588936
(Yozi) Eternal Essence. It's in Return of the Scarlet Empress.

>>52589108
Different people do them differently. Some like ASOIAF and Harry Potter have even less than that. Some of the Kamen Rider jumps and Disgaea's Netherrealm DLC have more elaborate story-like sets of events. I personally prefer the latter, and the anon I'm hoping IS a dedicated troll apparently doesn't

>>52589134
If Babylon hadn't coined the term scenario and made Light of Terra jumpmakers probably would have just kept sliding them into drawbacks, so I don't really see much of a difference between them. Most jumpmakers that are known for fluff already have drawbacks that read like scenarios to begin with.

>>52589185
The way I look at it, a drawback is always written as some kind of obstacle. A scenario tends to be more beneficial, and comprise a more complex sequence events-usually with a specific endgoal rather than "avoid being killed by X"

>>52589133
Thanks! Would there be any difference in another Yozi's version or would it be the same?

>>52589278
Nope, it's one of those general charms

>>52589278
They'd all be the same. It's a general Yozi charm, with no different effects for whichever Yozi you get it from.

It does require essence 7 though, so it'll take a while to get there.

How do I combine ghost rider with dying will flames?

>>52589358
Close your eyes, squat and growl really hard

>>52589358
power combinations from young justice maybe?

>>52588497
I mean, Utopia update.

>>52589358
>>52589382
Add in some Spiral Power and the Starheart while you're at it.

>>52589422
Power combinations only Does up to three thingsf memory serves

>>52589439
That's just because you aren't ocilating the tachyon wavelengths in accordance with the continuum transducer.

So what are some extremely fitting powersets or items for characters from a different series? Stuff like giving Solaire Sunshine and making him a Lumen Sage or making Wuya into an Infernal?

>>52589473
>That's just because you aren't ocilating the tachyon wavelengths in accordance with the continuum transducer.

see, I at least had the decency to call ASA out on stuff I could confirm before I just started automatically scrolling past any post that had one of his pictures rather than griping about my own ignorance and not being able to make as awesome combos as he could .

>>52589042
While I kind of want to see someone else take a crack at Blame most people will probably ignore/REEEE at a new blame jump unless it is extremely well made.

If you are confident then go for it but accept that it probably won't be accepted unless it is amazing.

>>52589510
You also have to give Solaire Hamon, don't forget that.

>>52589510
I gave my Jurai Tree the perks Avatar of the Green and Tree of Life from DC Occult and The Gamer, respectively. She is now the best tree.

>>52589660
If it offers things for cheap enough it stands a chance of getting people to rally behind it because of discounts. It's pretty hard to convince the people who already insist the existing jump is fine, since they already have a natural bias. They're also the most vocal against a replacement, so it's not like they're going to make life any easier for anon

>>52586649
Sweet Jesus. Her Horns are massive. That's gotta give her back trouble.

>>52589731
Also may as well give him a Stand.

「Walking On Sunshine」?

>>52589815
Also make him a Solar.

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>>52588421
Yandere, by far.

>>52589844
Are we still getting Solars? Who was making it?

>>52589042
I agree there is a bit too much of Dirge imposing his head cannon in that jump but you'll meet a lot of resistance in trying to replace it.

>>52589869
I think lunar's has an import option for solar mates.

Reminder that Solaire is actually a bad guy. He faithfully serves the guy responsible for fucking over humans and dooming reality and wants to perpetuate the Cycle.

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>>52589869
Wukong is working on Solars and is still at it. He was online just the day before yesterday.

>>52588421
don't make it Focused on any of them in particular,Those are the backgrounds.

>>52589890
Yeah, but outside of that.

>>52589917
Oh, nice. Has he given any progress reports? There wasn't ever a WIP, was there?

>>52589640
Obviously you just aren't smart enough to decode what was being said. The rest of the thread understood every word.

>>52589909
Just because his religion sucks doesn't mean Solaire is less of a bro anon.

>>52589933
He hasn't posted a WIP to my knowledge but he did show off a few items way back in the IRC. I didn't save them, though.

He said he was going to be working on it a bit more since he's in procrastination mode for his exam things.

Jumpers, what caste of Solar would you be?

>>52589933
nice double dubs,also , you can also get a solar exaltation the hard way.

1. Kill a Abyssal exalted
2. Steal their Monstrance of Celestial Portion
3.purify the exaltation in the monstrance.
4. Install into whomever you wish.

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>>52589510
Pic related as The Boss in Saint's Row. Still waiting for Yakuza jump so I can do it again.

Also, Magical Girl Cultist-chan!

>>52589815
You know there are actually a lot of sun themed songs out there. Personally I would actually suggest a classic surfer song. Like, The Sunrays - I Live For The Sun.

>>52589971
Smiley face of course.

>>52589886
That part should be the easiest thing to remove. That and the fluff are the most useless parts of the jump as it is. The resistance against removing it has no basis at all.

>>52589909
Technically in this case he would be a victim, that has been tricked into it, at least assuming he is in fact a human, rather than a lord.

How much mileage could I get out of trolling Digimon Frontier digidestined as Lucemon?

>>52589986

Island In The Sun (Weezer) ain't bad either.

>>52590065

Not much, they don't even know the guy until towards the end of the series. That's unless you mean trolling them after the main plot or something?

>>52589660
It sounds like he's going to try to mimic some of the other jumpmakers, so I'm interested to see if that means we're going to get capstone boosters.

Why don't we just make a folder for both Blame Jumps and allow people to choose whichever one they prefer?

>>52589971
Night, or Twilight.

Probably Night, with a bit of Sorcery.

>>52589974
Purifying the Exaltation would stop the Monstrance from working on it. So it just flies off at step 3.

>>52590185
Well if this one does get finished, there isn't much reason to keep Dirge's version on the drive. He has his own drive for jumps, if people want his version they can go find that drive instead. Having just one jump on the drive helps cut down on potential confusion.

What are some other things like Exaltations and Planeswalker Sparks? A chunk of power shoved in a mortal soul.

>>52590277
The Graces that angels have in Supernatural, are apparently just soul-upgrades IIRC? But that requires going to Supernatural.

>>52590294
>going to Supernatural
Too high a price.

If this new Blame! jump is real I would like to suggest a Sanakan companion that can switch between her Safeguard and Killy-like forms.

>>52590205
Dang,well swap Step four and three?

>>52590363
probably just going to be a 50 CP or 100 CP canon companion option.

>>52590310
not that bad. just be super careful, or take a flight to Britain.

and graces are only available to angels.

>>52590394
>not having 50cp cibo face option, and 100cp anyone else

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So Jumpers what is the usual plan when going into a new jump?

>>52590426
The point is to keep things simple and cheap, so if 50 CP canon companions is what people want then I'll put it in.

>>52590464
I was making a joke about sameface. Mainly that back during Blame! Nihei was not that good at drawing faces.

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>>52590458
Haunt the shit out of some random person.

>>52590394
That sounds too cheap, would recommend 200 min for the types of characters that are in Blame!, Killy, Sanakan, and the like are well worth it since they would presumably come with their weapons.

Would also suggest a ban on certain BS OP characters, namely those retardedly powerful safeguards from the last few chapters (Cibo's Safeguard form and that thing that hunted her down).

>>52590363
Personally, I seriously doubt either
A) a replacement jump will be made
Or
B) It'll be any good even if it is made.

The jump that exists is fine, despite this wierd dislike some people have for it being long and not meeting their subjective arbitrary standards. Seriously, that's their only issue with it, that's they want it shorter and to meet *their* preferences.

In any case there is better uses for that creative energy than a rehashing or mutiliation of an already filled jump.

I have a suspicion, based on what i've seen in posts ealier in this thread, that the guy who is claiming to remake it is an arrogant gasbag. The quality of anything someone like that makes is more than a bit questionable to me.

Maybe I'm being unfair and maybe I'll be proved wrong, but I'll not hold my breath and keep using Dirge's Blame! jump until then and probably after in any case.

>>52590506
Oh. I'll use that as a drawback. The companions part I'm just going to leave as an import and canon option anyways, so if it's cheap it doesn't matter much.

>>52590565
Thread, if you had to choose between a remake of Blame! and another franchise/setting having a jump made of it instead, which setting/franchise would you chose?

>>52590587
Guyver, Project ARMS
An Anon has already tentatively claimed them after he's finished his current jump.

Stargate Atlantis
Rogue One
BroForce
Thunderbolt Fantasy

>>52590458
I got this perk from dungeon seige that makes the plot happen as normal, and another perk from hero bbs that makes things butterfly and escalate along with a bunch of anti fate perks. I use them together to make myself awesome while sitting in my own bar without changing the story unless I want to.

It also helps if you can scry the area and open portals so people just happen to walk into your bar when they dont mean too.

>>52590558
It's balanced within the setting since everyone is pretty strong. Besides, there's only eight companion slots by default. There's nothing stopping a person from making a companion using other means, so why lock it behind high CP costs?

>>52590587
I'd rather have a revised Toriko jump, myself.
Wasn't someone working on that at one point?

>>52590368
Probably harder to do then, because you need a huge redemption arc for an Abyssal to be able to be purified.

On the bright heh side, you'd cure that Exaltation of the Great Curse by doing this.

>>52590609
Heavens claimed Thunderbolt Fantasy iirc.

>>52590609
Is there enough material for a Boruto jump yet?
Oh, I know, Akumetsu Jump.
Fight against corruption, wear cool demon masks and die over and over again. What's not to love.

>>52590565
>Seriously, that's their only issue with it
Also the fact that it is full of head canon, seriously a large portion of that jump is OC explanations for stuff that was not explained in such detail in the manga. Way too many assumptions.

Dirge can make some great work but Blame isn't one of his best.

>>52590587
Final Fantasy XI
Bayonetta
Kamen Rider neo hisei
Corruption of Champions

>>52590587
there is still no Godzilla cinematic jump! no one has claimed the Godzilla cinematic jump! There is more than one Godzilla cinematic jump Kamen Rider style!

>>52590647
Be warned the following pun may be bad for your health.
Thank, Heavens

That is something to look forward to. Thank anon for letting me know.

>>52590587
Something new. Like tmnt.

Anyone mind sharing their Infernal build with me?

>>52590609
Broforce would be fucking amazing.
Don't know if it'd work as a jump, though.

>>52590635
I vaguely remembering them dropping it.

>>52590673
What the fuck, you're right. How the fuck has that not happened yet?

>>52590587
Left 4 Dead, Mushihimesama, Death Smiles, Shadowverse, more Yu-Gi-Oh, any of the unclaimed Exalted stuff (including the actual remaining Exalted, that weird Spirits idea someone had way back when, and the various Shards of the Exalted Dream), and fucking World of Darkness, both old and new.

>>52590635
Toriko Anon was gonna update the jump to clean it up and start you earlier, with an optional DLC to stay around for the (actually fairly reasonable, all things considered) escalation and buy yourself some stuff to get a leg up.

>>52590458
Depends on if I know the setting or not, or if I want to learn more about it via the jump. Typically if I know the setting I do whatever it takes. If I don't know the jump I just fuck off and do whatever. consolidate my magic.

>>52590565
I think from their perspective you're the one who has subjective arbitrary standards. If you consider their gripes after removing most of the emphasis they aren't really wrong. A short and sweet jump that makes things easy to access has many advantages over a long jump where the jump itself is already a hurdle to overcome. So you could say that Dirge dug his own grave when he decided to make things unnecessarily long winded and complex. If this anon just likes Blame and wants to see a better jump it's not likely that creative energy will be helpful anywhere else.

>>52590684
Exalted: Infernals
Origin: Savant
Caste Yozi: Adorjan
Favoured Yozi: Szoreny

Perks
Savant’s Understanding
Architectural Madness (100cp)
Demonic Bartender (200cp)
Hateful Wretched Noise (200cp)
Perfect Reflection (200cp)
Primordial Psychiatrist (300cp)

Gear
Arm of the Anathema (150cp)
Chimes of Silence
Mirror of Kagami (100cp)
Seeds of Potential (400cp)

Companions
Unwoven Coadjutor (50cp)
Perfect Circle (300cp)

Drawbacks
Remembering a Past Life (+0)
Horrible Coadjutor (+100cp)
A Hellish Rival (+200cp)
Demon Hunters (+200cp)
Love of Adorjan (+200cp)
Return of the Infernal Jumper (+300cp)


This is my tentative build. I haven't properly slotted it into my Build yet, so It's probably subject to change.

>>52590659

No, the series has barely even done anything, they're just riding it all the way to the bank as the Naruto sequel series. It already has its second movie lined up.

Which jumps can combine weapons together? I already know about Bayonetta, Nanoha, and 7 Deadly Sins

>>52590746

One of the Final Fantasy Jumps (FF13-2?) has an item that can combine two weapons once.

>>52590684
here you go. It doesn't have the updated versions of the third circle souls. But it's my build.
https://pastebin.com/MgptpMBm
>>52590711
my guess is that it's too obvious . Everyone keeps expecting someone to make it so no one actually bothers making it. >>52590746

rwby has an import option that does that

>>52590746
Didn't mean to add Nanoha to the list.

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>>52590587
We have a jump for every big shonen series but Gintama.

Someone needs to fix that.

>>52590670
>Dirge can make some great work.
I don't think so. All of his jumps suffer from the same problem, they're all full of head canon and they're excessively OC. People accepted it back then because there was no other choice, not like somebody else was going to make a jump out of the things he's done, but if an anon showed up with replacements for FFs that had all of those flaws fixed I'd be all for replacing them. Maybe if the Blame remake goes well we'll start seeing other jumpmakers pitch in.

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>>52590684
(Exalted: Infernals) #81
-Caste: She Who Lives Within Her Name (Free) -I am a sorceress and a demonologist, first and foremost.
-Favored: Szoreny, the Silver Forest (Free) -I will show others what they are capable of. I will ensure others are strong.
-Background: Savant (Free) -Book smarts, to understand the knowledge of Hell.
-Yozi-Kin (800CP) -Oh my goodness, I need this for demonics. Yozi-Kin of Ligier.
-Peer of Hell (200CP) -I am more than a mere demon. I am greater.
-Savant's Understanding (Free) -Remembering the First Age is pretty nice.
-Vitriolic Craftsman (0CP) (Discount) -Hell to the yes, more demonic crafting.
-Orphan Club of the Devil-Tiger (-600CP) -We're going to start on part one of my plan. Also nab Cecelyne's charms.
-Remember the Past (-650CP) (Discount) -Even greater understanding of First Age wonders!
-You Are Not Me (-750CP) (Discount) -Onward to ever glorious wonders, part two of my plan.
-Beautiful and Terrible (-1150CP) -I need maximum beauty. Maximum.
-Prince of Hell (-1200CP) -The air of nobility alone is worth this.
-Sorcerous Initiation of the Yozi (-1400CP) -Heeeeell yes, time to make magics.
-The Inner World (-1800CP) -Turning my inner self into a manse will be beneficial in the long run.
-Staff of Forbidden Light (Item Free) (Discount) -Advisement and focusing of sorceries is good.
-Chalcanth (Item Free) -The life force of a demon will be a fine crafting tool.
-Purest Vitriol (Item Free) -I am also going to need this.
-Exotic Components (Item Free) -And with that I have plenty of materials I need.
-Saturday Morning Cartoon Villain (-1700CP)
-Horrible Coadjutor (-1600CP)
-Omen Weather (-1500CP)
-A Hellish Rival (-1300CP)
-Love of Adjoran (-1100CP)
-Return of the Infernal Jumper (-800CP)
-Prison Break (0CP)
Dice Rolls: Malfeas (The Streets of Malfeas)
-End Choice: Next Adventure

>>52590746
RWBY
Anarchy Reigns

>>52590670
Blame is arguably one of his best considering how much worse the others are. At least it doesn't take several days and migraines just to read through and make sense of. In the time it takes to do one of his jumps I can do several other jumpmakers jumps, that's just fucking stupid.

>>52590587
I really want a jump for SMT 2 and Strange Journey.

>>52590791
>>52590769
>>52590727
Alright, thanks!

>>52590778
It really didn't help that his self-deprecation was bad enough that any critique felt like kicking him when he was down. It's hard to give criticism with someone like that.

His jumps are all long winded and read like a technical document. The fluff and mechanics aren't very clear at all, and a lot of his perklines are weird gimmicky abilities which don't really come together to make a coherent representation of something in canon.

Just reading the jump doesn't give you a feel for canon at all, not helped in the least by his weird OC "Research Team" that he used as the introduction for most of them. He even shoved them into the fluff of perks in many places.

It's just not good writing in the least, even if I do like a good portion of his jumps and some of the stuff in them. They got some big flaws.

>>52590277
Names from Practical Guide to Evil, though they come with a Role that you need to play if you want full access to your power.

>>52590791
How did you break both yourself and the Yozi out of Malfeas within a decade?

>>52590670
From what I understand the author left a lot up to interpretation, but to make a jump, don't you have to fill in some of those gaps.

I seriously doubt any new jump can avoid that either, and if they somehow manage it will be at a cost.

>>52590712
Is Toriko Anon still around?

>>52590724
Me personally, I would not have a problem with a smallish jump to complement the big one, but replacing the big one just because you feel it's too long just seems like wanking to me. It's the replacement and arrogance that they can do a better job before showing anything like evidence that rubs me up the wrong way.

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>>52590876
I didn't. Prison Break keeps you there beyond the ten year limit until you find a way out. The Infernal bit just makes it where you have to take a passenger with you.

It took a very long time.

What jumps are there that have a focus on martial arts?

>>52590892

Haven't seen him in months, maybe a year.

>>52590901
kungfu Panda?

>>52590838
You can't give him any criticism because he never listened to anyone. He's too much of a narcissist to pay attention to anyone else, so it's pointless to even comment on his jumps. Goes hand in hand with how condescending and prejudiced he is against everyone.

Other people have pointed out how imbalanced his jumps are, and not a single one of his jumps is exempt from this problem. Either the perks are stupidly overpriced or they're all utterly useless except in niche situations.

I think it's been said before but none of his jumps ever feel like jumpchain at all, they feel like a really bad fanfiction from a grade schooler who just got introduced to anime. The language that he uses is painfully bland but so wordy that you just end up glazing over all of it, and that's the only reason he gets away with anything. I've never seen a good example of writing from him, and honestly he ruined the idea of scenarios completely for me. I get that we can't just delete the jumps outright, but honestly all he's done is take up space that another jumpmaker would have been able to do better at. If he hadn't made a shitty Blame jump we wouldn't have people giving anon grief over making one.

>>52590836
reload the paste . I just uploaded. I updated it to include the refinements and details. I admitted from the original

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>>52590777
Problem with that is you need someone who captures the seriousness alongside the whimsical. Which Gintama is really famous for. Without that, the entire jump would be dry and not capture the spirit of the setting.

>>52590711
>>52590673
Godzilla or fuck generic Kaiju Jump would be awesome. Especially Shin Godzilla being a weirdo, it fires lasers from its dorsal plates. Its tail is evolving into another being, and in the end it's evolving into humanoid figures.

Also you have Toho-Universal Kaijuverse heating up. There's theories from Skull Island's after credit scenes where they show the various Toho Kaijus, like Mothra, Godzilla, King Gihira. Also the theory that there's two Godzillas, one that was activated by nuclear explosions during WWII. The other which has been around when man was young. Seeing how they painted a battle between King Gihira & Godzilla.

>>52590901
history's mightiest disciple, fist of the North Star, kung fu hustle, world of cultivation.

>>52590777
You know I've never read that, although I have heard about it.
What is it about?

>>52590778
>head canon and they're excessively OC
Eh, I'll agree that it's not for everyone, and it took some getting used to, but you've got to give him props for trying something new and making a distinct style for himself, even if you don't like the style.

>>52590825
I prefer Knights of Sidonia, myself.

>>52590838
He could have benefitted fom a beta reader/tester for his jumps. Even I the Great Cornhollio, who likes his jumps can agree with some of your points.

>>52590925
Well, shit. Hope he's alright.

>>52590892
Perhaps but Dirge did a bit too much filling in of gaps, there is for example no evidence for having the GBE drain power from the user at higher settings. Sure killy is out of commission for a while after his full power shot but that probably had more to do with the fact that the recoil left him in a fucking crater.

Someone correct me if I am wrong on this, I re read it recently but I could be forgetting something.

>>52590892
>I seriously doubt any new jump can avoid that either, and if they somehow manage it will be at a cost.
It's not that bad, you just explain things directly. Like for the GBE it'll just be:
Graviton Beam Emitter 100 CP free for safeguard
A hand held weapon capable of firing a seventy kilometer long beam that can disintegrate matter of any density in its path.

Sweet and simple.

>>52590969
Anon, ASA is his beta reader/tester.

>>52590969

Yeah, me too. I never heard anything about him saying goodbye or whatever, he just kinda stopped showing up.

>>52590989
Well he did have a couple more than just ASA, but most of us communicated with him through steam or IRC, so it wasn't like he was teasing perks like OAA or Heavens.

>>52590982
That is too cheap for a GBE. They are the end all be all weapon in the setting other than bigger GBEs and maybe the Safeguard Cleavers.

>>52590684
Name: Oberon le Fey Prince of the Alabaster Wrathful Forest
Age: 21
Origin: Noble
Location: The Shores of Kimbery
CASTE YOZI:The Ebon Dragon, the Shadow of All Things
FAVORED YOZI:Hegra, the Typhoon of Nightmares
Drawbacks: What First Two Chapters?
[+0], Horrible Coadjutor [+100], Past Lives Matter [+200], A Hellish Rival
[+200], Love of Adorjan [+200], Omen Weather [+100], Blade of Hatred [+200]CP:2000

Perks

Peer of Hell [600, discount Noble = 300]
Demon Realm Traveller [200]
Shadow of All Things [200, discount Ebon Dragon = 100]
Pleasing to the Ebon Dragon [400, discount Ebon Dragon = 200]
Perfect Reflection [400]
Demonic Bartender [200, discount Hegra = 100]
The Inner World [400]
Border of Impossibility [200]
Prince of Hell [50x2=100] (nobility and wrongness)

Items (item cp:300)

Mist-Demon Tattoo [300, discount Noble= 150 item cp]
Chalcanth [50 item cp]
Purest Vitriol [50 item cp]
Yozi Venom [50 item cp]

The build I went with for my Fey Demon King alcoholic alchemist

>>52590982
I hope to god you are joking, anon.
Be careful or the powerwankers and nerfwhores will come out of the woodwork.

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Does eyebrows still come around jc? Killer Instinct could use a good update. And i want to be a battletoad so bad.

>>52590982
70 Kilometers was just the casual shot, it can be much bigger.

>>52590900
Oh, well that– Oh My God! I thought you were Heavens. NAMEFAGS SHOULDN'T SHARE COMMON PICS! Confuses the hell (heh) out of me.

On a related note, who would be the least harmful Yozi to break out?

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>>They Live (1000) (116)
Identity, Perks, and Items
0900>Drifter -100
0900<Situational Awareness (Discount Drifter) -000
0700>Hip Fire (Discount Drifter) -200
0400>Hero Sense (Discount Drifter) -300
-200>Companion Import (Goon) -600
-200>Special Sunglassed (Free Drifter) -000
-200>Bubblegum (Free Drifter) -000
Import- Goon
0600>Drifter -000
0500>Damage Sponge (Discount Drifter) -100
0300>Hip Fire (Discount Drifter) -200
0000>Hero Sense (Discount Drifter) -300
0000>Special Sunglasses (Free Drifter) -000
0000>Bubblegum (Free Drifter) -000
Drawbacks
0000>Sudden Realism +200
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I have zero plans for this, apart from taking down the aliens, and literally purging the elites. I'll do this by making the two equal, and implying satanism. Beginning in Russia, (for the revolutionary irony/tradition as well as the ability to take down the consolidated power) form a populist movement to take down the jews (Marxist elites) and their allies (aliens) with the satanism being a purely movement-fed ideology. Take over. Spread movement to eastern Europe and the remainder of asia. Ally with Japan. Encourage a restart of their imperialism and expansionism throughout Asia. The jews fear the samurai.

Ethnic cleansing ahoy.

Continue to spread throughout Europe. Eliminate any nuclear option for America. We're going full space-nazi here. nukes are nothing but rocks if they're not armed. Then it becomes a stand of Eastern vs. Western hemispheres. At this point, there are undoubtedly strong nations in south and latin America. Constant warfare. Then eliminate anyone alien or elite/jew genes with magitech nukes via u-2-like nuclear bombers. Gone in one night. From there, weaken them from inside via grassroots movements. If they're not full fascism by then, I'll genuinely be surprised.

At this point, the majority of the world is united under a single- (cont)

>>52590975
>Sure killy is out of commission for a while after his full power shot but that probably had more to do with the fact that the recoil left him in a fucking crater.
This wouldn't make sense, because Killy's body is proven to be durable enough to withstand forces even greater than just the recoil and impact. I think it's just a way to set a power source that isn't just the gun itself, since there's no indication that the gun has a portable gravity furnace.

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>>52590961
Dude, Shin Godzilla's even weirder then that. Like, chunks blasted off of it become mini-Godzillas themselves. Hell, if I remember right, at one point it tries to grow wings. Shin Godzilla's the lovechild of Cell, SCP-682, and normal Godzilla.

Also, I think it's the same Godzilla. It probably surfaced to fight King Ghidorah just like it did when the M.U.T.O.s returned, due to the whole "protecting the balance of nature" thing.

>>52591055
The setting doesn't have that many items to begin with. Safeguard Swords, GBE, The City, giant Robots, armies, gravity furnace. That's about all the important items there are. If the GBE is the main item in the setting it should be accessible.

>>52588145
>>1. Give Angelroids a proper perk tree, and change their current perks into a subsection.

Nice though perhaps have a simplified tree would be a bit better since their CP purchases would be split between the tree and their subsection/powers.

>>2. Include an option/booster that makes you akin to Ikaros or Chaos. Probably an expensive subsection item

Perhaps have it as the capstone for the Angel Perk tree you'll make?

>>3. Remove the weird caps on Pandora, but balance it a bit so it's not just a spontaneous altform generator for MK1. MK2 will work the same way it does it canon.

Okay then, why did you cap it in the first place is the Pandora power ridiculously OP?

>>4. Expand the perk trees for civilians, since they're a bit random and lacking in themes. Considering a 1/1/2/2/4/4/6/6 format, though I might not bother adding another capstone.

I'll be honest, I always considered the Civilian tree to be the tacked on option of the jump. If a Jumper wanted to go the whole human with Angelroids then they would go Drop-In, and if they wanted the sweet tech then they would go Synapse Resident or Angelroid origins. I would recommend scrapping that origin and placing the perks in the new Angelroid tree or creating a Perk section. But if your intent on keeping the Civilian origin I would recommend adding some luck, survival, and plot armor perks to help spice the perk tree up.

>>5. Synapse Residents will get more tech options.

Nice.

>>6. Cheaper canon companion options with less conditions attached. I went a bit ham on the mandatory drawbacks on things that would otherwise be a given.

Cheaper companion options are always appreciated. If your going to replace the mandatory drawbacks then you should add some flavor text like hanging around this person might draw the negative attention of this group (Synapse).

Perhaps a "You are Tomoki" drawback for Drop Ins and Civilians, so as to not destroy the plot wit canon companion or cuck Tomoki.

>>52591148
Accessible, not 100/Free. Also include regular City guns (which are way better than modern guns) such as those that Killy used when he was without his GBE for a while.

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>>52591097
Man, I don't fucking know. I'm hardly an Exalted fan, all I was told was "Szoreny plans to backstab the others and cut a deal with Creation" so to me, he seemed the most likely since I didn't want to screw everyone over. So I was just a backstabbing asshole too, felt it was a good call.

I hear the giant boar is good if you've got that whole "who the hell do you think I am" willpower schtick going on.

>>52590969
>but you've got to give him props for trying something new and making a distinct style for himsel
I'd give him props if he actually made any sort of innovation, but he didn't. His distinct style is a copy of Red and Babylon's style, and he didn't really do anything except come off as trying to be a special snowflake and shill his jumps. The worst part is that his jumps go against the idea of jumpchain and forces narratives on people which it shouldn't. If he wasn't so stuck up and used a google docs to make his jumps so that everyone else could pitch in, there'd be plenty of people pushing to delete all of the useless fluff that you call his distinct style.

>>52591165
Ignore the cross outs I forgot how posting works apparently.

>>52590961

okay space monkeys is very nearly done, just need to do companions and Convert ideas into paragraphs so if no one objects I'm going to claim destroy all monsters specifically as a gauntlet,that'll hold people over until someone Actually decent at Jump making Gets off their ass right?.

>>52591124
Yeah man Shin Godzilla was like this ever evolving monster. It decided that it can't survive in the water, it grew legs, then when it began to overheat, it grew cooling fins, then it evolved into a more classical Godzilla. When hit by missiles it develops laser breath, when that wasn't enough it had laser beams from its fins, and later his tail.

It still wasn't finished evolving because they "killed" it before it could evolve another Godzilla or something. Not to mention the weird humanoids coming off of its tail.

I'd like to see if Shin Godzilla was really trying to kill off all humans or maybe replace them. By the end, maybe humans are godzillas?

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>>52591230
forgot the PDF because I'm an idiot and one of the most autistic people on This website

>>52591199
The higher the price, the less accessible it is. Besides, the GBE is what the Safeguards are known for. I don't see what's so bad about giving people the GBE.

>>52590953
>perks are stupidly overpriced or they're all utterly useless except in niche situations
>painfully bland but so wordy that you just end up glazing over all of it

Oh, dear. I am currently working on a jump and both of these points may be made towards it as well. Fuck.

>>52590975
So, what? Would you have the gun to end all guns have no-limits or cost to using it. And if you do, then what other form of cost or limit or ammunition?
Also, it sounds like a perfectly valid interpretation of what happened, just as your interpretation sounds reasonable as well, shy of the author saying one way or another, both are equally valid and reasonable suppositions.

It's been a while since I read it so i am really not sure if you're factually correct or not, i'm assuming that you are for the sake of the argument

>>52590670
>a large portion of that jump is OC explanations for stuff that was not explained in such detail in the manga. Way too many assumptions.

But isn't that Jumpchain in a nutshell? If you don't have actual in setting explanations for stuff you have to fanwank or tell Jumpers to fanwank an explanation.

>>52591243
It's not bad, it's awesome, which is why it's bad.
Do you understand now?

>>52591249
>Oh, dear. I am currently working on a jump and both of these points may be made towards it as well. Fuck.
I wouldn't worry that much. Dirge's problems as a jumpmaker come from him as an individual. It'd be pretty hard to be as much of a dick as him.

>>52591165
>Okay then, why did you cap it in the first place is the Pandora power ridiculously OP?

Long story short, I was afraid of my jump being unbalanced by its inclusion since Pandora is both a perpetual self-upgrade and evolution device, and lets you eat things to gain power and extra capabilities. This was my first jump and back when I had inter-jump balance on the mind, which is something I've learned is effectively futile around the time I made Disgaea. I still want to keep my jumps internally balanced, though.

>Nice though perhaps have a simplified tree would be a bit better since their CP purchases would be split between the tree and their subsection/powers.

It's gonna be a simple 1/2/4/6 tree while the Angelroid modules get their own point currency with CP conversions.

>Perhaps have it as the capstone for the Angel Perk tree you'll make?
Not a bad idea, but I'll give it some more thought when I get to it.

>I'll be honest, I always considered the Civilian tree to be the tacked on option of the jump. If a Jumper wanted to go the whole human with Angelroids then they would go Drop-In, and if they wanted the sweet tech then they would go Synapse Resident or Angelroid origins. I would recommend scrapping that origin and placing the perks in the new Angelroid tree or creating a Perk section. But if your intent on keeping the Civilian origin I would recommend adding some luck, survival, and plot armor perks to help spice the perk tree up.

When I said Civilian tree, I was referring to both Drop-In and Student. But, yeah, they're a bit lacking so I'm going to give them both some more character and some oompf. I think non-Angelroid backgrounds might just get free/cheap Angelroids, though I'll need to give it some thought after I'm done reworking perks.

(1/2)

>>52591263
If it's awesome that's just the green light to go ahead with it. It's not one true build if it's not expensive enough to be the only thing taken. Everyone can get a GBE and leave happy.

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>>52591298
>>52591165
Cheaper companion options are always appreciated. If your going to replace the mandatory drawbacks then you should add some flavor text like hanging around this person might draw the negative attention of this group (Synapse).

Perhaps a "You are Tomoki" drawback for Drop Ins and Civilians, so as to not destroy the plot wit canon companion or cuck Tomoki.

Probably what I'm going with, yeah. Tomoki is so easy to write out of the story that there might as well be a drawback for it. Or the option to reincarnate into him because WHY THE FUCK NOT.

>>52590969
Gintama is basically the story of how aliens conquered Earth during Japan's Feudal era. Its a now quasi-Meji Era Shonen show with aliens and lasers. Also has a huge cast of characters, a hugly successful anime, and the fact there is no 4th wall, makes it a very fun series.

>>52591230
>Bancho claiming Godzilla: Destroy All Monsters.

I mean if no one else wants it. I see why not. Just get someone to proofread and edit your jump, so we don't have your weird typing issues to deal with.

>>52591258
Agreed. Some amount of that is inevitable, even desireable.

And while you can have too much of a good thing, that point is subjective, differing between people. Those who feel it is going too far, i would just ask that they recognise that just because it is going too far *for them* doesn't make it objectively bad, or mean that others can't enjoy it.

I personally like the fluff and length, it's adds the complexity I need for immersion, but I can understand that others find it excessive or even detracting from their experience of the jump. But that's just people being different from one another, just life.

>>52591285
I have been told on some authority that if anything, I am too nice a person.
And I am on 4chan...
Please, send help.

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>>52591106
At this point, the majority of the world is united under a single coalition. Like NATO! or the warsaw pact. eh. Move to space focus, humanity as a species into the stars. Eliminate any and all aliens.

Encourage the nationalistic identities of old (~ww1 era) and allow the coalition's power on earth to disintegrate, but remaining strong in regard to humanity in space. Put a stop to Japanese expansionism at some point. Encourage the nationalism of old.

Solidify remaining coalition's policies on my last day on the world. Then jettison self into space, eating Cheetos and listening to Dean Martin.

>>52591285
Well shit I guess we all better quit now because holy fuck we all got brain damage

>>52591097
>On a related note, who would be the least harmful Yozi to break out?
It depends on how you define least harmful but probably Elloge or Qaf. Hegra wouldn't be malevolent but her storms would cause some issues.

>>52591232
Considering it was growing humanoid like creatures on its' tails, probably replace them with its' own spawn. By the end, if Shin Godzilla had won, there would only be Shin Godzilla and those created by it left on the world. God, it's like Evangelion and the Angels all over again...

>>52591352
>I have been told on some authority that if anything, I am too nice a person.
Then you don't need to worry at all. We've had plenty of verbose jumps. Just don't go around shitting on people and they'll be polite enough to overlook it.

>>52591360
I think it's just you that has brain damage anon, because the rest of us are fine.

>>52591243
Here is the thing, if the GBE is so cheap what are you going to make more expensive? I would think 100/free is where you would put a replenishing supply of those nutrient bars.

Don't make it prohibitively expensive, but making it that cheap just seems wrong. Like maybe 400/200 along with the other super weapons such as the Cleaver or one of those towers.

>>52591403
>Here is the thing, if the GBE is so cheap what are you going to make more expensive?
why does it have to have something expensive? Items don't have to be a focus in the jump. I can just make the City for 400 CP if you want an expensive item that much.

>>52591243
part of the game is having Difficult choices to make ,Making one of the better guns in the entirety of jumpchain available for 100 points Pretty much makes it mandatory since only an idiot would not take it, also there is the matter of it undercutting the original jump which is considered poor form at best and More likely to be interpreted as directly disrespectful to the previous jumpmaker.

>>52590961
Not its dorsal plates, the sores on its back. Anywhere that Shin Godzilla's body has an opening, it can shoot beams from. That's why it has a tail beam, the weird tumor/mouth on the end of it counts.

>>52591457
You might have a point in terms of making choices but talking about being disrespectful to the previous jumpmaker and undercutting the original jump is just bullshit when the previous jumpmaker was famous for being disrespectful to everyone around him. It'd just be karma if anything. I'd support a lower price just for that actually.

>>52591374
Well, Anno did direct it, so...

>>52590961
>Problem with that is you need someone who captures the seriousness alongside the whimsical. Which Gintama is really famous for. Without that, the entire jump would be dry and not capture the spirit of the setting.

It's not like even a fifth of the jumps manage to capture the spirit of their settings.

>>52591349
>and the fact there is no 4th wall

Well, now I know that you haven't either read the manga nor watched the anime.

>>52591485
>> I'd support a lower price just for that actually.
And, thus, you prove you're the wrong person to be making any decisions about the Jump. You're supposed to be doing the setting justice, properly representing the power and rarity of things inside of it, and offering significant choices from them.

>>52591505
Perhaps, but it'd just be criminal in the case of Gintama. Unlike other series, the story telling is 100% the forefront most important part of the series.

>>52591201
Isn't Isidoros not malevolent but is so power and oblivious to others that he's like a perpetual natural disaster with the attention span of a fourth grader?

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Looking up upon the stars,
where various sagas are shining
Just like the constellations,
only by connecting them with lines,
does a Legend begin

Can’t Catch Me [100 - Free for Thief] - Odds are, you weren’t the lawful sort in your youth, because you’ve learned to be quick on your feet and just as slippery. You’re an expert at parkour and freerunning, and have the dexterity necessary to do that. Your agility receives a similar boost, making you much harder to catch in combat and much more deadly with small weapons like knives.

Eyes of the Hawk [200 - Discount for Thief] - Nothing can escape your eyes - no foe, no treasure, nothing! Your physical senses are much sharper, letting you see the distant horizon much more clearly, rain or shine. Your nose is sharp enough to pick up the smell of blood from a mile or more away, your ears able to eavesdrop on conversations a similar distance from you, and so forth. As a consequence, your ability to be accurate with ranged attacks is increased as well.

>>52591522
If the original jump was supposed to do the setting justice, it wouldn't have a bullshit OC scenario, multiple OC items, and a bunch of perks that don't even reflect the main characters. So anything is an improvement here.

>>52591541
Yeah. He's nicer than the average Yozi in the sense that he doesn't mean to kill you, but he still kills you.

>>52591548
Anime may not be real, but Flowey's a total tsundere.

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>>52591541
>mfw
Really, >>52591587 I think has the truth from what little I hear. Less like an active force of 'fuck you' and more like a natural disaster. Sure it means you no harm, but if you're smart you still get the fuck out of the way.

>>52591572
Yeah fuck you fuck him fuck all you guys trying to replace something to be contrarian pricks. My god I was trying not to reply to you shitheads but fuck can you not start the same tired shit every god damn day? Its been over 3 years and this routine is so worn out there is a hole in the ground under it.

>>52590458
Why would I have a usual plan for dozens of different scenarios? Just go with the flow and try not to piss off anybody with weird colored hair.

>>52590746
Aion has something for that.

>>52591430
True but there should be a good offering of items, there is a bunch of cool stuff in Blame.

There are the many smaller guns.
Tech samples, blueprints.
Conversion Towers
Mind transfer devices
Survival supplies, which are important in setting
Supply caches like what Killy used to re supply/arm himself a few times.
A shield that deflects GBE beams such as those used by the safeguard and the Capitol
GBEs of course
Safeguard Swords
Clone tanks
Silicon creature production equipment
Builders
that device that can stop individual builders

Offering the City in the jump seems like it would be a bit much anon.

>>52591617
The anon is replacing the jump either because he feels he can make a better one, or because he wants his jump on the drive. I'm not sure how any of that is contrarian or being a prick. Also this is the first time I've seen someone willing to replace the Blame jump so you should probably just chill out.

>>52591675
>hey guys Im remaking blame
>gonna give gbe thats worded so it can destroy anything for 100 cp
>giving the entire city for 400 cp
>not being a contrarian prick
Sure thing buddy. Pull the other it has bells on.

>>52591675
I really don't understand this, have I missed something? I thought we had a policy here of not replacing jumps without jumpmaker permission. Has that changed? Or has Dirge given permission?

>>52591675
We've heard of people wanting to replace jumps all the time. We've had people claiming they've wanted to replace Bayonetta for years now, and it never happens. I don't buy it for a second.

>>52591671
a lot of those can just be grabbed in setting, so there isn't any reason to make them cost CP, and again I said it already but items are supposed to be cheap if you want an expensive item that you can't easily get in the setting it will be the City

I could just copy the items from the existing jump and make them cheaper but then people will yell and a lot of those items don't make any sense anyways.

>>52591702
He has not. But that guy really wants to replace it and he is willing to give out super powerful weapons and items for dirt cheap so he is going to get the ok.

>>52591702
Dirge gave blanket permission for other people to make new jumps for all of his a long time ago.

>>52591702
All of Dirge's jumps are up for replacement, permission was given several months back. Or if you ask some other anons, Dirge has no rights as a jumpmaker here anymore so it anyone can replace his jumps without asking for permission. It's one or the other depending on who you ask.

>>52591711
Offering the best things in the setting for peanuts feels like a powergrab.

>>52591702
Who cares? The only people who don't want to see it replaced are the irc nerf whores. That is why I want to get it redone, just to fuck with red.

>>52591760
if people want the GBE very badly they will find ways to get it either way so I think this isn't a powergrab at all it just makes things more convenient

>>52591760
It is a powergrab, that is all any of this is. Remaking a jump so anyone can buy anything for peanuts.

>>52591612
>>52591587
Would it be possible to convince him and Szoroney to go somewhere else other than Creation with less shit to fuck up.

>>52591785
So your reason is "Just because someone can jump through hoops for something I should offer it for next to nothing"

Screw you, with that atitude you may as well just give everything for free.

>>52591785
Not really, a GBE is rare as fuck. Unless you buy one you probably won't get one. Also CP insurance is important for many people.

I have sort of lost interest in this due to the powergrabbing.

>>52591711
I disagree. GBEs are difficult to obtain in-jump. You should have to pay a premium to get one without any effort. That's how a lot of jumps handle things that are obtainable in the setting but difficult to attain. For example, any perk that grants you incredible skill at magic instead of you just gaining access to magic and having to train it yourself.

>>52591812
but it's not for free. 100 CP is a tenth of your CP which is already a good chunk. if you're that angry about it I can make it 200 CP with a discount for safeguards but I still don't see anything wrong with giving people cheaper things

>>52591819
jumpers will find ways to get things no matter how rare it is, and CP insurance can be gotten through other jumps too

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...Consider Hamtaro to be claimed.

>>52591785
If people want the halo ring or mars they will find a way to get it, doesn't mean people won't call yhem out on how bullshit it is. Especially when you seem to think everything should be given away for cheaps. This all just seems like a powergrab to me.

>>52591548
Go through the dimensions flickering like auroras
And dive into that straying Parallel world

On the road, everyone is in the midst of a journey
In order to encounter their true selves

Like A Shadow [400 - Discount for Thief] - Why. Won’t. You. Hold. Still?! This ability’s effect is twofold - first, you are really good at stealth. Enough that you could find a way to hide in broad daylight after being spotted the first time (camouflage helps). This isn’t a perfect skill, but you’re quick and clever enough to duck in and out of sight that you could hit the unwary with a surprise attack not once, not twice, but several times. Second, you’re much better at avoiding incoming damage, having a second sense of where and when to dodge. Likewise, this isn’t infallible - things that are just flat-out too fast for your reflexes or mind will likely still strike true. Still, this will teach a few foolish enemies that the lightly-armored Thief isn’t quite easy pickings, right?

>>52591879
I refuse to consider Hamtaro.

>>52591876
So then let people get it in jump like they already do, what is the point of charging at all if you are just going to go "Lol they can just steal it anyway!"? There is an entire arc where killy is being hunted for his GBE for fucks sake.

>>52591832
>>52591819
Not the same anon, but it shouldn't be difficult for a mid-tier jump to get their hands of one. Basically kill Safeguard until one drops one.

>>52589909
Solaire doesn't know that. Nobody does except Gwyn, Fillianore, and the primeval humans/pygmies within the Ringed City.

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>>52591899
Let’s keep on walking for now, for We’re all travelers
Everything’s spreading out right in front of my eyes
Just when will the 9 paths ever overlap
The road will probably change
to continue into a new dawn
Bear witness to it, Journey through the Decade

Looking For This? [600 - Discount for Thief] - You’re not a Thief, really. Just a treasure hunter!...pffft, who says things like that? You have a serious nose for wealth and those who have plenty, able to spot some worthwhile targets with just a cursory glance of a city-sized location, along with an idea of how much you stand to gain from ‘borrowing’ said wealth or items from them. Items of power? Loadsmone? A collector’s edition copy of Final Fantasy? If it’s what you’re looking for, you’ll sense it.

But your real power is in the ability to Steal items. You’re a skilled enough Thief you can steal from someone just by brushing against them for a brief second, taking an item from them regardless of how well-embedded it is on their person. Heavy suit of armor? Yoink! Magical weapon of legend? Yoink! A pocket universe?...erm, have fun carrying that if it unfolds in your hand. But you can take anything from someone’s person with a well-timed swipe, so long as you can survive close contact. Even better, those with weaker wills than you won’t even notice the item in question had been stolen until they attempt to use it themselves...and they’ll have to explain why they attended an important meeting without pants. Note that ‘important’ or incredibly dangerous foes will require more than one try or a long battle before you can take their stuff.

>>52591915
because otherwise I probably wouldn't have an items section at all lol

Remember kids if you include oc you are shit, if you include things from the jump you are shit because it can be stolen anyway, and if you don't include something you are shit for leaving it out.

>>52591879
YOU WOULDN'T DARE.

>>52591876
Okay, so what else are you charging 100CP for? One of the most powerful man-portable weapons available in the chain is that price. What else can you buy for that much?

>>52591939
I hope to god you are just some idiotic troll.

>>52591942
>Remember kids if you include oc you are shit, if you include things from the jump you are shit because it can be stolen anyway, and if you don't include something you are shit for leaving it out.
If you're going to shitpost at least do it right. OC is fine, it's only shit when Dirge does it.

>>52591936
I'm going to be honest, it took me a while to realize this was the translated lyrics for Journey Through The Decade. Bit ashamed of that. And I call myself a Kamen Rider fan.

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>>52591947
I'm daring so hard right now that I'm watching the first episode and bookmarking a let's play of ham ham heartbreak as we speak.

>>52591879
Perks for unique weird hamster words, please.

>>52591954
the silicon life weapons like the sword and the shield and a lab like Cibos.

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>>52591548
>>52591899
>>52591936
Looking pretty good, Heavens!

>>52591986
YOU'RE INSANE! YOU'VE GONE MAD WITH JUMPMAKING POWER!

>>52591929
Jumps shouldn't be designed around other Jumps, only the setting they're being made for should be considered when going into design or pricing. What's possible for someone who's taken X number of Jumps doesn't matter when pricing a perk or item.

>>52591990
Okay, what about perks? What 100CP perks are there?

>>52591785
There were only two GBEs shown that a jumper could realistically take for themselves, Killy's handgun and Sanakan's longer handgun she used while protecting Cibo. Others are built into Safeguards so it would be extremely difficult to take one.

>>52591876
>I still don't see anything wrong with giving people cheaper things
There are a few things; first it removes the weight of decision making, second it takes away from the weight of the item (makes it feel less awesome/special), and third for many people it would just feel wrong to get something so amazing so cheaply especially when it is so powerful/rare in the context of the setting.

I think 200 is still too cheap unless that is after a discount.

>>52591929
Fist of all special safeguards who have such weapons are really rare, second even if you could find a way to use one's severed arm as a weapon it would be far more unwieldy than Killy or Sanakan's GBEs that were designed for people to use.