Warhammer 40,000 General /40kg/

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>>52502267
Blood Axes are da best Klan, and yer a grot if ya tink udderwise!

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>Can't recruit new team members in Shadow War because overcosted

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>>52502286
First for a blood axe shadow war team is the most powerful team in the game!

>>52502267
>>52502267
4:th for how dare you replace Duncan with random animu shit

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>>52502267
Can we please get a non-/pol/ edition some time?

I'm looking to buy/build a new gaming table anons. Post pics for inspiration.

What do you play on?

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>>52502267

The Embed joke just gets fucking funnier every thread

>>52502309
That looks awesome!

>currently thinking of making a warband of Chaos Cultists of the Alpha Legion

>>52502333
As soon as you learn not to talk about /pol/ things.

>>52502360
>As soon as one learns to ignore it and not get baited.

>>52502307
Funny thing is that they even dropped them by what is effectively 10 points each and they still cost too much

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Why do Sisters of Battle currently run out of stock and get restocked every time?

Are they making new metal models or did they kept an over stock for more than decade?

In any case how can GW be this retarded?

>>52502333
Don't worry I'm mindful enough to not continue it into another thread.

T. Socialist

What would be the most fair way to allow Shotguns in a Khorne marine army, rules-wise? Let them swap bolt pistols for normal shotguns? Boltguns for space marine shotguns? Letting chosen buy those fancy Death watch shotguns?

I'm not sure what would be too much. I just want a Khorne force focused on short range shooting.

>>52502431
>Space marines in power armor
>with shotguns
disgusting

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>>52502309
Is it really?

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how trash is my first ever army

>>52502395
I believe the packaging has changed. I got a Canoness and the packaging is minty fresh and new.

Also, comes with great choices to the model.

I did listen to an interview of staff from GW who do make codices etc. And they know the demand for plastic sisters.

Imperium of Man
Aeldari
Orks
Tau
Tyranids
Necrons
Chaos

Fucking choose one alliance.

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>>52502351
We made ours. About 100 bucks in supplies. Can fold in the center with removable surface, center posts, and folding legs. You basically just make a frame.

>>52502395
My best guess is that, like a lot of old stuff back when they made Gorkamorka and all that, they massively overstocked, but unlike Necrons and Space Marines, Sisters never sold well, like Andy Chambers himself said. They were almost squatted were it not for him getting permission to put them into the Witch Hunter's Codex.

>>52502448
I'd take unarmored/carapace gladiator recruits if I could, but that's not really an option.

>>52502454
>>those looted cadian panels
Very nice touch.

>>52502493
I always wonder why? Could the metal models alone being the issue? I mean at the time everyone was getting some form of plastic while the Bolter Bitches where still on metal release again and again.

>>52502462
I would just two squads of Vanguard personally

Why there no shadow team ig rules?

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Could anything good be done with the two missing legions / primarchs?

Has anyone seen any fan theory / fiction about them which isn't total shit, a joke or involving shit that isn't even in the 40k setting (Sigmar, the protagonist from Doom, that kind of thing)?

>>52502267
The new Sisters of Silence codex says they have fortresses and orders across every segmentum, but the end of the Wrath of Magnus indicates that they've been locked up in the High Lord's sex-dungeons beneath Terra for 7000 or so years.

How did they get reproliferated and reestablished across the Imperium so quickly?

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Made to order Necromunda range when?

I want to sexually pleasure some Sisters of Silence!

>>52502351
>>52502481
I just went and bought a second-hand ping pong table - comes with legs, a huge surface (enough room for armies at each end, as well as your 6x4), and all up it cost about fifty bucks. Can even use it as a ping pong table, if I want to.

>>52502571
They aren't in the GW download, because everyone who owns a legit copy of the game already has rules for them.

There's photos of the relevant bits of rulebook in the Shadow War General thread.

>>52502574
>Could anything good be done with the two missing legions / primarchs?
Sure.

>Has anyone seen any fan theory / fiction about them which isn't total shit
On rare occasion. But people who want to follow the rules of the canon generally don't make Lost Legions. Which is made more impressive by how little rules there are to begin with.

>>52502613
>>ping pong table
Fantastic idea, desu.

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>>52502462
Don't ever mix special weapons, and you probably want a Dunecrawler because they're superb. Also, never EVER take Arquebi. They're so useless and overcosted it's not even funny.
Drop the Balistarius and run both Dragoons in the Maniple, preferably as one unit of two. Swap the Arquebus for another Arc and cut the Rangers down to 5 men. Also drop the Skull, it's a tad useless itself and swap the Vanguard Arc for another Preferred Enemy Plasma. You should have enough points for a Dunecrawler then, so get one with Neutron Laser (and extra stubber if you have a spare five points), leave the rest at home.
Get the Dragoons Serpentas for a little light dakka and an extra attack each, and for the love of god buy some Omnispexes wherever possible, they're amazing. Refractor field is a nice thing, but you can get better toys for that. Something like this is an excellent 500pts list for Skits, we do exceedingly well at low points due to no taxes and powerful cheap infantry and walkers. Everything in the book bar Ruststalkers are good to brilliant, and they do have a niche as tank hunters, even if Dragoons do it better.

>>52502559
yeah thats one of those things that ive been thinking about, i also really want a dunecrawler so im thinking of replacing the ironstrider balistari to fit one in

>>52502480
>IoM most bloated faction
>Necrons will never ever get an update
>Orks and Nids are still shit

>>52502639
oh i didnt even know the arquebi were trash, thanks for that

ive also been thinking about getting putting in a dunewalker so its good to know that they are great, thanks for THAT

and thanks for the list i might make some changes to it just to fit in with how i think i want to play my army

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>>52502480
mfw I guilliman always rolls deep with my astra militarum infantry spam-a-lam

>>52502574
The only official information we have is that both were purged by the space wolves, one for mutation and one for most likely heresy.

The only theory I've seen that I liked was that they were really big into xeno tech, like the Primarch landed on a xeno world and refused to do any sort of conquest, so his legion got written off as a failure and the records erased,to remove the idea that aliens could do something nice like raising a Primarch.

For the others, I'd imagine they'd be loyal, but with Gene-seed flaws that make the blood angels and space wolves look like perfection. To fit with the classic movie monster theme of the others, perhaps they suffered severe organ and tissue failure constantly, meaning they had to often stitch on replacement limbs, graft on more tissue, or transplant organs. They also had dynamics with them wherever they went to act as upgraded defibrillators in case of sudden organ failure. The Emperor decided that a legion of Frankenstein monsters living in agony was stupid, and so had Russ purge them.

>>52502663
Ok, let's have an creative exercise:

Add expansions to the other Xenos alliances to get them at least to Eldar Niveau. Minor retcons are allowed but character must be preserved and you aren't allowed to simply split the codex up.

>>52502700
Oh yeah, you can certainly tweak the hell out of that, for instance the Dragoon pistols are a YMMV option, I just love the things too damn much. Some people kit their Warlord alphas, I don't really bother, since he's such a massive wimp he's probably dead anyway even fighting Tactical Marines in melee, and the stock gun is the best at range. No problem, almost everyone made all those mistakes starting out. I know I did, still got 3 Arquebus rangers gathering dust from back then.

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Thoughts on this list? Fluffy list for a force who the Emperor has sent to guard a future saint like Thor or something who will battle Chaos the coming Storm (TM)

>>52502804

Change your fluff so it's the Ecclesiarchy sending them, not the Emperor (he is a lighthouse).

Add yourself a cheeky 25pts Priest from IA to represent the guy they're guarding. Chuck him in a Custards squad for buffs.

>>52502884
Hm, wouldn't be bad idea either. Wanted to use the inquisitor, but just a plain priest wouldn't be a bad idea.

>>52502333
A certain other chan was hacked to shit on the 1st, so I assume some refugees will come here and misbehave until it's fixed. Just ignore them and focus on our devil worshiping miniature game.

>>52502900
Damn Tzeench.

>>52502900
Please tell me it's 8
They've been coming here disturbing shit from their /tg/

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Suggestions?

>>52502971
>They've been coming here disturbing shit from their /tg/
I doubt that, 8 tg is like 12 people and all they do is share pdfs.

>>52502995
Bit too many Peltasts, maybe.

>>52502895

Dunno much about priests getting armoured up desu but Inquisitor could work. To me though a cheap Priest means you have a squishy model to defend as a little objective for yourself while you play (fluffy seems your bag), but it's not too massive a point investment to represent that.

Have the core rules for Shadow War been released anywhere yet?

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is it common for imperium to have prisoners, thinking about doing cultists in an prison uniform color scheme but have no idea lorewise if they even have prison worlds etc.

>>52503121
Most cultists begin as either prisoners or impoverished workers, in fact. The Imperium also makes use of Penal Legion, Guard regiments made up of prisoners, as well.

>>52503121
Yes, they often recruit entire regiments of super mega double cannon fodder guards from penal worlds.

>>52503121
Penal Worlds are indeed a thing. The Black Crusade premade is about inciting a prisoner revolt.

>>52503121
penal http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Penal_Legion

>>52503121
They have entire world for this.
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Penal_World

And a somewhat famous regiment, the Savlar Chem Dogs, who fight on Armageddon. So I guess it wouldn't be unreasonable to have escaped prisoners/penal legions who turned to chaos.

>>52503121
IoM has countless planets. If you have an idea that is somewhat feasible in real world then something like that probably exists in IoM.

>>52503058
I like that the blob makes shooting -1S when being targeted.
Are the hoplites worth taking in conjunction with peltasts? Maybe just more vanguard?

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>>52503185
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>>52503139
ahhh great , thanks guys

>>52503197
Hoplites are only really great against vehicles, but are so great against them that you'll rarely need anything else against vehicles.

I'd probably drop the 20 dudes to 10 and take more Vanguard.

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I've been on a massive streak of wins lately as guard, just beat a ynnari warp spider army. Are we really as shit as tg makes out, or is that just an exaggeration?

>>52503305
I expect payment in the form of tips and critiques on my yellow dudes

I suppose I will re-link these for posterity.
>>52503268
>>52503287

I didn't see a thread for shadow war so I will link here.

>>52503289
Would hoplights make arc rifles unnecessary? Just to verify, the special rule you get for having a blob isn't worth the points? Would you say the dragoons are worse than hoplites?

>>52503319
>Has artillery
>Has ignores cover weapons
>Has multiple different types of functional anti-vehicle weapons
>Units are cheap

No, guard are not shit. Tyranids and orks are shit.

>>52503319
/tg/ doesnt play the game, /tg/ makes every army appreciation as if everyone was playing tournament WAACfaggotry.

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What is the cheesiest SoB/Inquisition List you can make?

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>AND WHEN I LOOK INTO YA FYOOTCHA ITS DA GREEN DAT I SEE

>>52503479
>not Sanguinor.jpg
Disgusting

>>52502307
If you just spend no points AND win 3 games you can get another one. (Which may be replacing one that died during those missions.)

>>52503409
You don't need the 20 dudes to get it, 10 are enough. And they don't invalidate Arc Rifles entirely, since Hoplites are very low range.

Dragoons and Hoplites are also not really comparable, since they don't fill the same roll.

Hey guys my lfgs is doing a 3k unbound tournament, what model should I spam for maximum victory

>>52502309
i love the work already done but a slight criticism is that it looks too clean in several ways. feel free to ignore my suggestions of course as it's already lovely

-the banner sticks out to me most of all. it simply looks too organized and well put together.
-the overall paintjob is also a bit unusually conformed looking for an orc vehicle. i might throw on a few mis-matched colored panels, rusting, bare metal, and battle scarring.
-the top components such as the bars look pretty pristine. bending/breaking./twisting a few and adding on a few ork-ish bits would go a logn way.

again, just my suggestions as it's already great but i think these changes would really elevate it

I like the concept of space marine scouts, but refuse to buy the hideous models. What third-party alternatives are there?

Is war convo still legal? I never see lists for it anymore.

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>>52503615
Do this, but add 5 more Contemptors with double graviton blasters and power fists.

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>>52503479
Something something, Exorcists.
+
Something something, Jokaeros.

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>>52503684
>hats

>>52503459
I literally took the atillery company formation for ignore cover twinlinked artillery, a shit load of conscripts and a couple of lemans to beat the ynnari. The cadian formations (not the big decurion or the pointless infantry spam one) are fucking great.

>>52503582
I understand. Thanks for the advice. Would you invest the points into a full plascal squad? I'm not entirely sure if the list is really missing something

>>52503615
Literally all ML2 furioso librarian dreads

>>52503851
You mean 10-man, 3 PlasCal? It's pretty risky, considering that 9 Gets Hot shots can easily result in a wound, but if you use something that allows a re-roll of it, you should be fine. It's definitely going to kill anything you aim it at.

>>52503675
Oh yeah, legal, it's just it's so monobuild noone bothers listing since you just take it, don't be a wargear idiot and then ally Psykers or something, or get more Kataphrons. Flexible and less WAAC decurion or Mega-FoC when?

>>52503883
Yeah I guess I'd rather just depend on arcs as my specials. What do you think of dropping enough to fit cult breachers? Is that too much anti tank?

Spent my annual work bonus getting all the dudes to put this list together for casual play. Feedback welcome.

Also, what army should I collect next?

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>>52503956
I'm retarded.
> Spent my annual work bonus getting all the dudes to put this list together for casual play. Feedback welcome.

> Also, what army should I collect next?

>>52503971
Fallen Angels :^)

Or IG, to have lots of models to build and paint, while being able to bring in useful allies units.

>>52503953
Wouldn't cut things just for those Breachers, that'd be overkill. If you do want to really run them, I'd only really take them as a Holy Requisitioner, but I don't think you'll need them in addition to the other stuff.

>>52504025
Ok so pretty much just more cheap bodies? Anything else?
I was thinking of Coteaz in addition to an astropath, what do you think?

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>>52503479
>>52503684

Think I got it.

The entire idea is to hide the Psyker squads behind the Exorcist. Use Prescience and make it rain.

No idea if that could work.

>>52504073
Never allied anything to my AdMech, so no idea how that would go, but using Coteaz for ObSec does sound alright in theory.
Personally, I'd probably drop the Astropaths and use their and Coteaz' 200 points to slap Cawl in and form a Skitarii CAD with him as the HQ choice. Also gives the Vanguards ObSec, ads some decent extras with his own Canticles and is a great tank to put in front of your Hoplites or Peltasts, sicne he'll be a 2+ armor re-rolling while part of their unit (also works with a normal TPD but Cawl is far tankier, of course).
That said, I don't think you NEED either of those two options, just that it could be worth a try.

>>52504144
Coteaz rules works on the detachment he is in.

Right now there isn't a way to add him to a AdMech formation/detachment.

It works in Castellans of the Imperium because he is part of the massive detachment.

>>52504144
I had planned on using the psykers for giving kataphrons divination and if included Coteaz for seizing initiative and some interceptor for outflanking and deep striking, with peltasts or kataphrons thatd be a pretty nasty salvo of free overwatch. I don't think Coteaz gives my detachment obsec to be honest but I could be wrong. If I put Cawl in peltasts or vanguard he'd have follow majority toughness. With kataphron this would be mitigated, both units having really tanky HQs but both very expensive targets.
He rerolls his armor with secutarii?
I like how Cawl looks but I'm not sure if he's a point sink or not..

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>>52504088
>all those exorcists
Ridiculous. My sister-loving heart digs it.

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>>52502584
>MtO Necromunda

I heard that several boards on 4chan were merged for April Fools. Who merged with /tg/?

>>52504394
no one. We were left out ;_;

>>52504394
No one, thankfully.

>>52504394
Nobody. Would have been interesting to see, but I'm also kinda glad we got left to our own devices.

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Just won a Chaos Space Marine match using pic related. Would the same team be any good against deamons?

Never played a pure deamon team, anyone got some tips?

>>52504394
I don't think we'll be seeing too many cheetahs anymore

>>52503777
>>52503319
What have your lists been like? Also where do you play? I've been doing well as Guard lately too.

What is wrong with Grey Knights?

>>52504481
Depends a little on the type of daemons being used.

>>52504268
He'd have reduced Toughness, true, but the Secutarii Force Field says that the entire unit re-rolls failed armor saves of 1. He's gonna get wounded more easily but will be much, much harder to actually get a wound onto unless it's an AP 2 weapon, but most of those already wound him on a 2+ anyway.

>>52504481
They're a bunch of low toughness, low save, melee, footslogging infantry models aka the WORST tactic in the game.
But, here's the kicker, they're so overpowered they actually make it work!

Basic troops are all footslogging melee troops, toughness 3 (4 for plaguebearers) with a 5+ save. Bolters will take them down easy, against big guns they still have that 5++ save thought so you want quantity over quality.
They're troops are super powerful and can eat the elites of other armies for breakfast, a 9 point daemonette is ws5 i5 with two attacks and rending.
Oh, and they can summon more troops for free.

Their real valuable units are their monsters. They get to take greater daemons as their HQs which have the highest statlines in the game and (apart from the bloodthirster) are all powerful psykers.

Very random, cheese builds are unbeatable with rerollable 2+ invulnerable saves and swarms of flying monsters with D guns. Even a casual daemons army can bring lots and lots of the D.

>>52502750
tau:
Base codex
Already have farsight enclaves
Xenos auxiliary codex:(Kroot/Vespid/H'rud/others including maybe kroot psykers)
Gue'vesa auxiliary codex which is like IG but missing commissars, scions, superheavies and you can buy tau modifications for their vehicles/infantry: like seeker missiles replacing hunter killers, smart missiles systems becoming a heavy weapons team option and a double barreled heavy rail rifle (heavy 2 rather than 1) leman russ variant which behaves like a 2 shot broadside platform or the melta cannon from the hammerhead mounted on a leman russ chassis as well

If we get dedicated movement stats for all units wouldn't be good if Slaanesh could improve move speed?

>>52504571
overpriced, underpowered units

>>52504638
>double barreled heavy rail rifle

You mean like the one the broadside carries?

>>52504639
Probably. It'd be a good replacement for initative since chargers will swing first no matter what

>>52504673
Well I guess so, but I was talking about the rate of fire, as in there are two of the twin linked rail rifles so you get 2 twin linked shots rather than one, mounted on a single turret kind of like the tarantula turret but on a leman russ, would make for a decent like vehicle killer, something that fits in between executioner and demolisher without being a single shot lascannon.

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Is there any point to being an arch militant in Rouge Trader if my group doesn't have a seneschal?

>>52503319
Eldar have a notable weakness to artillery, IG is actually one of the better armies to fight them with.

Still, /tg/ often severely discounts the role of the player in determining who wins games, chances are you're either good at 40k or better than your opponents are.

ANY WORD ON ADEPTUS TITANICUS????

>>52504776
Netlisting and waacfagging if you do not know how to play or out cheese.

For example an Exorcist can be behind a blocking line of sight cover. Hiding the entire hull of the tank.
Since you shoot from the weapon and the silly thing has long tubes up in the air.

You can in theory shoot and not get shot back.

That is how you bring down WraithKnights with SoB, without any effort and see the Eldar player bitch and moan the entire game.

>>52504717
I think the real answer is that they need to fix the rail rifle so it gets an extra shot at half range. I do think it would fit well as a Leman Russ gun though.

Burst cannons would be a neat option on. heavy weapon teams, though they might need to be the forgeworld long-barrel ones to make up for range.

>>52504816
I always found it weird for a Cheetah to hate that faction so much. You'd think they'd love them for being dangerously cheesy

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>The Emperor deleted Horus's soul from existence

>yet the Emperor is unable to erase Drach'nyen aka Echo of the First Murder aka The End of Empires from existence

Justify this, /tg/. If this daemon was beyond the Emperor's power to destroy what hope has he to defeat the Chaos Gods.

Why don't I ever hear about/see necrons? are they shit? None of the ~20 players at my GW have them and nobody ever really mentions them, here, at my store, or in the fluff.

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>>52504898
>dangerously cheesy

Fuck you got me

It ain't easy

>>52504973
I play with them, they're actually really good. Last friday was the first time in almost a decade that i lost with them. And it took the marine player getting a primarch onto the field.

>>52504973
They're fine, GW just doesn't really do anything with them so there isn't anything to talk about.

>>52504973
A dude in my group plays them, though he's moving out of town soon.

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>>52504594
Right, so it sounds like I need to keep my Lions blade formation to keep the full balistic skill overwatch. Throw in a few Ravenwing knights and a darkshroud to give my 2+ jinks that are re-rollable and just stick to hit and run tactics while my tactical and veterans kull the herd a bit.

Thanks man! Might bring my terminator Librarian as well to counter his psykers if I can.

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>>52504010
I'm going to need to see you after class anon
NOW REPENT

>>52504973
I always have trouble against Necrons. They can re-roll their deaths basically so they are hard to keep down. Not partically strong enemies, just cheap so you can have a lot and can quickly overwhelm a less-experienced player if you know what you are doing.

They don't have psykers really but they can re-roll their waarlord traits each turn with the right HQ.

>>52504871
I was thinking long barreled burst cannon would be nice as well, maybe give them a missile pod to replace autocannon teams and give hellhounds flechette dischargers which would make it more rapey against blobs of cheap infantry. Was also thinking the vulture could take the weapons the barracuda AX-5-2 has for fun as well
I think the broadside rail rifle should lose twin linked and become heavy 2, makes it worth taking and actually worth marker lighting outside of a hunter cadre.

>>52505068
Why not get a darkshroud? They give your ravenwing comman squad/knights a re-rollable 2+ jink. Makes them hard as fuck to take out man.

>>52504571
In what sense?

Some people don't like the fluff because they feel too special snowflakey, even though Custodes, OC Deathwatchsteel, the ultramarines, Chaos in ADB's hands, half of the Eldar's shit, and the fucking Tau are all waaaay worse. Mostly this is thanks to Ward, who back in the day wanked their lore dry.

Sadly, they aren't doing too well on the tabletop either. They're a meleecentric low-model count army clad in Terminator armor in an era where AP2 shooting is cheap and plentiful- though 8th ed may fix that if they do the 2D6 3+ save. Plus they're a psyker army that (in all honesty) doesn't do much with the psychic phase unless you fight one specific army.

And Perhaps the biggest crunch issue is they are the anti-Daemon specialists and they utterly- hilariously- fail at that. However, considering that Daemons has the most broken of all codices to the point you can get three times your starting army, abuse S:D out the ass, and grab bullshit 2+ rerollable invulns like it's nobody's business. Oh well, they're fun against a mid-tier Khorne/Nurgle army.

Oh, and people hate the Dreadknight.

Emperor preserve us, at least we've got Draigo.

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Where would be a good place to find bishonen tech priests and rogue traders?

I-I am asking for a friend.

>>52505064
Careful, they have torrent, ap3 flamers.

Ignores cover is a must if they're bringing nurgle or Tzeentch chariots.

So I need to start a new army - my current army has become unfun to play and unfun to play against.

I'm strongly considering either mono nurgle demons or a combined arms fallen forge world with a renegade knight, R&H, and CSM. Which sounds more interesting?

>>52505170
>any of those
>more snowflake than grey knights

Tau and Ultras have a lot of plot armor, but aren't really snowflake. Its a minor xenos empire the most vanilla of the founding chapters.

Eldar get a lot of details on how their stuff is super and awesome, but then in fluff die in droves just to make other people look better.

Death watch actually have a justification to be snowflake, since it's strike teams drawn from any available chapter and getting to hand pick their gear. Similarcase with customers being the Emp's personal guard.

The grey knights are a super duper secret chapter that nobody knows about, still follows the limit of 1000 marines, has special gear nobody has, and is entirely psykers, despite psykers and space marines both being 1 in 1000 odds of working out. Also, they're 100% immune to chaos because reasons.

>>52503319
I think most people discount Guard a lot of the time. What I have noticed is that people who lose a lot tend to bring Mech Guard. Footslogging Guard can win games, but it takes too long and that can cost you tournament time.

The true winners seem to combine similar elements. Emperor's Wrath, Infantry and Conscript blobs, Tank Commanders/1-3 Lemans, Yarrick/Company Command Squads, Priests and Psychic Powers.

There's also been a guy on here that says he wins a lot with a 50 man Infantry squad that has Lascannons and Power Axes and a 50 man Conscript squad. Sounds like a lot of table coverage.

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ADRENALINE CONTROL
FOREVER FIXED MY SOUL
CURSE BY MY SIDE
JUDGMENT IN DISGUISE

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>>52502267
Fuck the Tau

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I SMELL THE RATS OF MENDACITY
NAPALM FOR YOUR NUDITY
I PRACTICE WHAT I PREACH MY GOD
DEHYDRATION OF YOUR BLOOD

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I AM THE WAR
NEVER DISARMED
I AM THE WAR
WITHIN MY HEART
I AM THE WAR
SUPREME COMMAND
I AM THE WAR
LIVING ON THE EDGE

>>52505439
Don't discount flying circus either, valk+vet/scions+vendetta spam can really ruin someone's day if they don't tailor to bring mass skyfire/interceptor
>>52505516
Gladly

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INFECTED BY UNNATURAL AGGRESSION
DRIVEN BY ABNORMAL DEATH SELECTION
NO ANTIBODIES TO FIX MY MIND
NO TEARS WILL DIM MY SAVAGE EYES

What's your opinion of Chaos Knights? Specifically a Chaos Knight of Tzeentch

I CAN FEEL THE WARP OVERTAKING ME

IT IS A GOOD PAIN

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>>52505634
SANITY
IS
FOR
THE
W
E
A
K

THE EMPEROR IS A FUCKING DEAD ROTTING CORPSE FUCK THE IMPERIUM AND UNIRONICALLY FUCK ANYONE WHO PLAYS IMPERIUM ARMIES YOU'RE ALL BORING VANILLA PUSSIES

Hey, new player guy from last thread. The guy who wants to play Blood Ravens Space Marines. I have a question.

Say I get the Primarch box that comes with the Grey Knight, Cypher and Grandpa Smurf. Is Grandpa Smurf limited to just the Ultrasmurfs or can I 'magpie' him in a very Blood Raven fashion?

I'm thinking of adding an allied detachment of R&H to my CSM force. Was thinking of going mostly gun line with covenant of Tzeentch.

What stuff should I get if I don't want to so straight cheese with massed artillery?

>>52505715
I think you can take him in any imperial army, though he might look out of place.

>>52505715

If you're going to otherwise play Ultramarines sure - all his rules and shit are very UM oriented.

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KHHHHHHHHHHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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>>52505712
I like the idea of Chaos, but the models look soooooo stupid.

Plus it's not like I can just proxy in models from loyalists because of the special units.

>>52505757
Not sure which Chapter Tactics to use atm, actually.

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>>52505667

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>>52505712
What do you think of Tzeentch and Magnus' sons sir?

>>52505712
>Vanilla
But like, there's an Imperium army for every possible play style? Isn't that the opposite of being vanilla?

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>>52505789
>you can't just model proxy
>unwilling to make an army more corrupt than Wardian grey knights

See, you don't have what it takes to serve the dark gods.

>>52505715

He can be used in non-Ultramarines army, you just can't use his Ultramarine-only ability.

>>52505848
>serves god of plans and scheming
>fucks up the exact same way every single time like some saturday morning cartoon villain
He's already worse than Abbadon.

>>52505918
What is it? I haven't seen his rules yet.

>>52505796
Personally, I'd suggest Salamanders. Master-crafted for sergeants means you can fluff and model one of their guns as being stolen. Then, take 2 HAs so you can get 2 relics, plus that relic flamer that a dude in a standard squad can pick up. Then, throw in a Librarius conclave for another chapter tactics, and take 3 of their relics as well.

>>52505941
I think his real-time ability is just an extra use of each tactical doctrine, but in a way that can stack and let you use 2 in one turn

Why is Magnus so retarded? He's already gotten beat twice due to overconfidence and lacking the sense to finish off his oponents.

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Anyone know of any models (can be non GW) that would make good counts-as for Dread Knights?

>>52505727
If it's an allied detachment then you can't really cheese it; use the heavy artillery battery with 2-3 earthshakers

Any advice on building Castellans of the Imperium army other than include Coteaz?

catachan jungle fighter redux when

i wanna do a vietnam inspired IG army

>>52506134
>Daemon of Tzeentch
>God of pride and unachievable goals

Checks out.

>>52503956
>Also, what army should I collect next?
Ultramarines with Guilliman

>>52506157
2 priests as HQ (25 pts each)
and as many IG vet squads with carapace armor and plasma as you could afford

and emperors wrath artillery co.

Did thousand sons and Emperors children go renegade because they had the most unimaginative names?

>>52506152
Other than what you posted...

The FW Custodes Dreadnought could probably work if converted right.

>>52506181
>god of pride and unachievable goals
Bullshit, pride is the domain of Slaneesh, and 'unachievable goals' isn't an emotion much less an aspect of Chaos.

>>52506285
At least choose factions with actual crap names
>Ultramarines

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>think Shadow War looks fun as fuck
>would love to have excuse to get singular squads of certain factions and make them super WYSIWYG with magnets
>local store shows no interest in actually playing it regularly

Fug.

One thing I really don't get about the setting, why are some chapters so vehemently against warpcraft, but utterly ignore librarians use of it?

"Oh no, Thousand Sons are still using sorcery after Nikea, lets see what our librarian thinks of this!" seems a little hypocritical.

>>52506285
Nah, Emperor's Children went renegade because they just fucking love irony and couldn't pass up on that joke.

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>>52506292
Yeah I got one look at those and immediately found myself with an erection. Sadly they are too short to really count as a DK even with some base work. Thanks for the suggestion all the same anon.

>>52506313
Ambition is very much Tzeentch's domain and that encompasses pride and unachievable goals pretty well.

Remember it's taken to the extreme.

>>52506337
Pretty sure the Templars are the only ones who don't like sorcery. They don't have Librarians.

>>52506376
They're fine with Imperial sorcery, and now they just can't recruit Librarians for reasons.

>>52506337
Here's what bothers me
>Dark angels whole gimmick was some of their guys turned traitor
>back in a time where the lore was the chapters were all loyal or all traitor
>new lore comes out that some marines of each went against and stayed loyal/turned traitor
>Dark angel lore now makes no sense
Reaches the point of parody when they're fighting next to space wolves who are openly using MUTANTS against chaos corrupted space wolves but DA are still super autismo about the fallen.

>>52506362
>Ambition is very much Tzeentch's domain and that encompasses pride and unachievable goals pretty well
Except finishing off Guilliman and that Yiffer Captain was perfectly achievable.

>>52506316
I kind of wish it was just regular Necromunda.

Like, I understand that they would have to remake models and it would cost them money but having 40k statlines with that ruleset seems kind of a bad idea.

Does shadow war have rules for other regiments other than cadian, or are people who like the better regiments fucked once more?

>>52506376
I thought Space Wolves etc too.
Isn't that part of why they were so keen on taking out Prospero? Or is it they hated sorcery as an excuse to hate TS?

>>52506362
Just to put things into perspective remember these were situations where he had already won and all he had to do was actually eliminate the major threats which is an obvious part of any sensible plan. Destroy the leadership of the enemy to sow confusion and fuck up morale. Finish off the fucking Primarch who has single handedly fucked up every single Chaos operation since his awakening. Buy no I'm just gonna sit here and gloat about how evil I am so that the hero can recover and bring reinforcements and banish me for the nth time.

It's all so stupid.

>>52506503
They have Wolf Priests now. Bunch of hypocrites.

>>52506522
Oh. Well then.
Shows how much I keep up with space furries.

Easily in one of my most disliked chapters/legions.

>>52506522
Rune Priests draw power from the planet Fenris, not the Warp.

>>52506484
Regiments don't get their own rules. It's all Guard.

>>52506417
To be fair, being super autistic is just Dangles taking after their primarch.

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It wasn't powerful armies, unstoppable deities, or colossal weapons that finally brought peace to the Galaxy.

It was love.

>>52506547
Dude, Space Wolves don't use sorcery. Their magic is pure elemental and shamanistic energy drawn from the Wolf Spirit of their homeworld.

I do not play 40k but I like the necron dudes. are they fun to play? they look like they would be easy to paint.

>>52506597
What is this.

>>52506597
No, it was chaos. Everyone was surprised.

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I have recently come into the possession of a 3D printer and knowledge of casting, and while I've had some of the 40k rule books for awhile (IG and all of the Imperial Armor volumes except for six,) I've never played. Two questions:
#1: Is the Armored Battlegroup a good army for a novice? Is it a good army at all? If not, what would be the best way to get tanks/vehicles on the field?
#2: Is 3D printing bits for vehicles or entire vehicles a decent idea? It's slow, but if I used the printer to make my master and then made molds off of that, would that help?

Pic somewhat related.

>>52506548
>pyromancers draw power from fire, not the warp
>grey knights draw power from faith, not the warp
:)

>>52506176
I just recently fell in love with Vostroyans, and I keep wondering if I should order some. However, I don't want to make a massive order all at once, but I'm afraid if I get a few at a time to build an army, they'll be discontinued while I'm halfway done. Also, for some reasons their models on ebay are usually way more expensive than direct from GW with LGS discount. What do we do man?

>>52506651
kek, this would be a surprise

>>52506156
Well, it'd probably end up being a CAD. More wanted to clarify that it was gonna be a side force.

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>>52504744
While this isn't the RPG general, I'll answer you.

If your entire party is pure combat-focused, there are merits for either following the same trend (so the GM can throw combat heavy missions at you and all player participate) or doing a different character to round out the party (but you might be useless during combat encounters).

If the rest of your team is relatively diverse, then go for the Seneschal, as those guys can bring in the good shit for the RT and his team. They can also make for fantastic underworld cartel-bosses if you run them right, and have them handle all the dirty work while the RT goes off and plays Conquistador.

>>52506705
No, pyros use warp energy to manifest fire.

The Grey Knights don't have faith. They are not black templar. Also they are said to use sorcery.

>>52506705
No, pyros use warp energy to manifest fire.

The Grey Knights don't have faith. They are not black templar. Also they are said to use sorcery.

>>52506697
1) don't know but IG is the tank army.
2) no, for reasons discussed many times before. I doubt the resolution on your printer is his enough to make tank treads, for instance, look reasonable.

>>52503615
D-thirsterS

>>52502267
>https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/PDF/ShadowWar/SWA_Killteams_ENG.pdf
How can a Tyranid Warrior ever be armed with more than two pairs of Scything Talons?

Where is the point value for a Devourer?

Why don't Dark Eldar get a Kabalite list?

>CSM terminators don't get access to power swords or combi-plasma
Oh fug.

>>52506711

Get in on converting some minis from Victorian Miniatures. Guy at my LGS made a Praetorian Guard army from their models and says they're good for making guardsmen GW doesnt make in plastic.

>>52506705
It actually explicitly says in WoM that the SW don't use the Warp.

Which is a load of bullshit, but gotta justify special snowflake status somehow

>>52505422
>The grey knights are a super duper secret chapter that nobody knows about, still follows the limit of 1000 marines, has special gear nobody has, and is entirely psykers, despite psykers and space marines both being 1 in 1000 odds of working out. Also, they're 100% immune to chaos because reasons.

I would argue that this is acceptable because of the nature of the threat a Grey Knight is called upon to face. They are Delta Force of the Imperium when it comes to dealing with Chaos fuckery, and given the nature of Chaos means that they must be absolute paragons of virtue and purity in order to do their jobs most effectively.

No matter how incredibly powerful and potent they are, however, they are still little more than a thousand souls in a galaxy of quadrillions of humans. They are a surgical tool - they are worth the effort for extremely specific circumstances, but otherwise are overkill, and the "good" news for them is that Warp-shenanigans are always happening somewhere in the galaxy to keep them busy.

>>52505422

Considering that they recruit from the entire Imperium and still barely manage to maintain 1000 marines, the whole chapter of psyker marines thing isn't that crazy.

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i'm a long time guard player here making my first SM list. my friends and i play casual stuff so i'm not out for a WAAC list but am i making any outright dumb/bad choices?

>ihavenoideawhati'mdoing

>>52506723
Ah ok. The heavy weapons teams are ok, and the one you can get in the Demagogue's retinue will be BS4.

Rapiers are pretty cheesy in R&H, wayy undercosted, all the artillery pieces are fine, as long as you're not using 3 batteries of 3 basilisks each. What's dumb is you can't use the artillery LoW with IA13 R&H, only the Vraks ones.

>>52506815
Don't get me wrong, the idea of a Inquisition chapter focused entirely on hunting and fighting Daemons is a good idea. I just think the way they decided to design the fluff of the chapter is stupid.

Firstly, the Inquisition really shouldn't be bothering with a 1000 marine quota or limit. They could easily go up to 1200 or 1500. And why would they not, when the entire chapter is a secret, and therefore nobody can complain?

Of course, the reason there might be excused with the fact that they all have to be psykers (despite the inquisition having perfectly good blanks for anti-warp support), but that just means it might have been enough to simply have a company of psykers to fill that roll, and then fill the ranks with more typical marines. After all, a squad with a well trained librarian looking out for them would have about as much going for them as an entire squad of the grey knight's psyker brotherhood squads.

Also, just because they're paragons of virtue doesn't mean they have to be entirely immune to falling. Granted, it'd be insanely hard to do so, but insisting it never ever happens ever is just silly. Even just having only 1 like the SoB allegedly do would have been better.

You can make a psyker-heavy chapter that works for the inquisition and fights Daemons far less weird than this.

>>52506924
That's pretty weird that you can't snag the artillery LoW, though I suppose it's no big loss. I may steer clear of Rapiers just to be safe. Heavy weapon teams seem like more fun anyway.

Any suggestions for good tanks to include, superheavy or otherwise?

>>52506790
They definitely have some cool stuff, and I saw those Praetorians haha, but they don't really have anything that captures my imagination the way the Vostroyans do. I think I'm gonna bite the bullet, get a command squad and a regular squad with a few plasma gunners. Worst comes to worst, I can always use them as a Shadow Wars force.

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>>52506548
>>52506612
totes not warp users, just able to use warp powers :^)

>>52502750
Orks:
Vanilla
Freebootas
Ferals
Kult Ov Speed
Dreadmob

All factions that have had rules previously.

>>52506924
What artillery lord of war? The only one I can see is the minotaur, which is available to both IA13 and Vraks renegades.

Anyone else find the ork boyz (and much of the ork line) old as fuck? I brought this up with a fellow ork player at my flgs and he acted as if I spat in his face.

Like, I get that some people don't want new boyz, since chances are if you've played orks for any amount of time you have fucktons of them, but I can't be the only one who thinks this.

>>52507003
The sculpts are pretty old. I wouldn't be surprised if they got a revamp soon enough to match with the Sigmar and Bloodbowl kits

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>>52506998
dunno what he's talking about, but there's also this beauty

>TFW you buy Talons of The Emperor to supplement other armies
>Custodes and Sisters for 30k
>Land Raider, Rhino, and Dread for Deathwatch

Why did I do this.

>>52506968
TT rules =/= lore.

Same can be said about nids who also don't use the warp for their powers.

>>52506968
>Can summon Daemons
>Doesn't use the warp

Okay

>>52507109
But that's false equivalence, nids -can't- roll on the disciplines of the Warp, they have their own list of awful powers they need to roll on for their psykers.

>>52506961
Actually, I might have been wrong about that artillery LoW.

The Leman Russes are just like the guard ones, I don't have much experience with them.

The Baneblade is great; it gives all Uncertain Worth units within 12" Zealot.

Malcador and its variants are definately a pass, none of them are very good.

The Macharius has a couple good variants, namely the Vanquisher and Vulcan, for anti-armor/TEQ or anti-meq/infantry respectively. Unfortunately for IA13 renegades, you have to have Arch-Heretic Revolutionary as your Demagogue Devotion, so the Demagogue would have to be the warlord.

>>52507072

Because its supposedly a limited edition release.

>>52507003
I don't get why people get pissy about the idea of new models to go alongside the old. You can still use the old, and just have a choice for more variety if you want em.

I asked a few threads ago with no replies.

What do you guys use to seal your models?

I used to have a can of Army Painter Matte Varnish and it was okay, but I didn't like it too much, was rather expensive, and was easily prone to frosting.

>>52507163
Might consider a baneblade then. Pity about the Macharius, the Vulcan sounds bitchin', but I'm not too keen on having some squishy demagogue as my warlord.

>>52507003
They are super old and need an update. Older models have lower sculpt quality due to the hard steel mold getting softer and mushier with age, have huge annoying mold lines, and are generally not as high quality and not as large as more modern miniatures.

Orks, basic CSM, a few remaining marine kits like scouts and vanilla terminators, are all very old plastics that can be updated. Some models don't even have plastics like Eldar Aspects.

>>52506484
Catachan and Steel Legion also get skills.

>>52507243

Army Painter. Other brands are even more prone to frosting so if you are that big of a fuckup or live in permanently raining area, you're going to get even worse frosting with other brands. There is no brand that has both cheap and high quality matte spray varnish. Your best bet is to buy an airbrush and spray matte varnish on yourself (expensive), or use AP or Testors (expensive). You can try a cheap brand like Krylon but prepare for even more frosting, a shittier finish, and even yellowing with age if you don't get a UV-resistant brand.

Army Painter and Testors Dullcote are literally as good as it gets when it comes to matte spraycans. Some brands make great primers that cost less than expensive Army Painter, like Tamiya, Rustoleum, and Halfords, and they also make matte sprays (usually lacquer) so you can maybe give those guys a shot. But I have never heard of people saying those brands have good matte varnish, when everyone is saying they have good primers, so I'm guessing nobody uses it or it sucks.

>>52507257
What I wouldn't do for some plastic Incubi or a plastic Farsight.

>>52507297
I was wanting to try a Tamiya can because it's cheap and Tamiya is overall a good brand.

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Trying to decide which brand of gas mask wearing guardsmen to make my next army. Which should I pick? I know forgeworld has krieg stuff, but I'll be converting most of my stuff regardless.

>>52507302
If they're gonna do plastic Incubi they better put some female one in there.

>>52502584

Right after Fantasy gets resurrected.

>>52507338
You've got WWI British (Steel Legion), or WWI/II Germans (Krieg).

If you go with Krieg, you can grab them right off of FW. If you go with Steel Legion, you're better off hoping GW makes more.

>>52504948
ADB is a massive Chaos-wanker with daddy issues that he takes out on the Emperor. Ignore him.

>>52507318

Tamiya's primer is amazing. I don't consider them cheap, because even if they cost less money than Army Painter, compare how tiny the can is compared to Army Painter. Dollar per mL you're not paying that much less.

I've never heard anyone say Tamiya matte spray is good, and it's probably worse than Testors Dullcote, but my friend in college sprayed a Gundam model he airbrushed for me with Tamiya rattle varnish and it came out fine. It can frost so be careful.

>>52507402
My bad on the wording, the can itself is cheap(about $8), but I know Tamiya ends up being more expensive overall. It's a smaller investment than AP's $12+ per can. I want to try Tamiya once just to see if I should continue getting it or if I should just stick to AP.

>>52507457

Give it a shot. You might like it more than AP since it has a finer grain texture and you said you didn't like AP.

>>52507475
Actually...which of these 2 do you(or other anons who want to chime in) recommend?


https://www.amazon.com/Testors-Aerosol-Spray-Lacquer-Paint/dp/B009FF6DN4

https://www.amazon.com/Testor-Corp-Dullcote-Lacquer-Testors/dp/B0069FYJYI/

>>52504948
The writer blatantly admitted he's chaos biased and always take the opportunity to write the chaos factions as insufferable Mary sues going as far as making Matt Ward and C. S. Gotto look good in comparison

>>52507003
They aren't as dated as some of the Ork range and they were a fucking revelation when new (Brian Nelson is the god of Orks) but they could certainly do with being updated.

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R8 please, is for fun 1250. I need to cut 5 points.

I don't want to be WAAC, just want to not be tabled on turn 2.

>>52506337
The thing is some faggot wrote that there's no difference between psykers and sorcerers and they used to be two different things now we got heated discussion because of this faggotry

>>52507571

https://www.amazon.com/TES-1260-4PACK-Testors-Lacquer-3oz-Dullcote/dp/B00V89X2D4/ref=sr_1_cc_3?s=aps&ie=UTF8&qid=1491190439&sr=1-3-catcorr&keywords=testors+dullcote

This is the one you want. Dullcote in spray form. The ones you linked are generic non-Dullcote Testors matte and a brush on version of Dullcote.

Dullcote is the holy grail of matte spray varnishes.

>>52507571
>>52507682

https://www.amazon.com/Testors-Aerosol-Spray-Lacquer-Paint/dp/B009FF6DN4

Actually that one IS Dullcote, they started using generic looking blue labels a while ago.

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>not even putting the amount of gloss or matte on the label

What the fuck are you doing Testors?

https://boardgamegeek.com/thread/783441/new-testors-dullcote-packaging-or-how-confuse-old

>>52507682
>>52507700
Oh, okay. I was about to say, the cans are the exact same. Even better, I can drive over to walmart and pick this up right now if I felt like it. Thanks!

>>52507393
>ignore him
It's canon, anon (no pun intended).

So I am thinking of starting a 40k army. I am thinking Necron, Dark Eldar or Chaos nurgle dudes. what is the best way to start any of these army and how to they play?

could all might take on a primarch?

>>52507822
The start collecting boxes are the best dollar value for starting any army. As for which army is strongest of the 3, necrons are most powerful and nurgle daemons and dark eldar aren't very good atm

>>52507109
Nids do use the warp though, just through the filter of the Hive Mind, which is one giant warp entity. Zoanthropes literally use "warp blasts"

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Do the Ruinous Powers take proportionality into account when it comes to rewarding their mortal agents? For example a Chaos Lord getting better rewards for slaying a hundred marines in a single battle than for killing one thousand through orbital bombardment, or a lowly renegade gaining more favor for killing a marine than a Noise Marine would.

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eldar when?

>>52507907
I'm gonna need that sauce.

>>52507898
Probably. It seems to be that quality is better than quantity, but sufficient quantity can make up for a lack of quality.

It also depends on the God. Khorne would probably be real fucking impressed if you killed 100 marines in single combat, but Tzeentch might be more pleased with tricking an entire chapter into a orbital bombardment kill-zone.

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>>52507926
found it on an old tg board sorry anon have another

why is GW pushing wratihguard stuff so hard for eldar

I miss howling banshees and shit

>>52507857
That was a retcon though. Not the name of warp blast but it used to be canon that they were antithetical to the warp and their powers were derived from the hive mind itself.

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>>52508067
Howling banshees are the best but our wraith units are bretty good dont worry hopefully the aspect warriors will get an update

>>52508067
They only add unit that have plastic kit.

Howling Banshee are OP as fuck with their 2ed Rule for the Mask.

>>52508107
I know, I'm saying they should do plastic kits for banshees. I mean, speaking as someone who just came back to the game after a pretty long break, banshees were iconic. Not having them available for the eldar feels weird

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>>52508078
>Not the name of warp blast but it used to be canon that they were antithetical to the warp and their powers were derived from the hive mind itself.
The retcon is that the Hive Mind filters the warp. They used to be vulnerable to daemonic warp attacks like any psyker.

>>52508124
They only do plastic kit if they have any relevant campiagn, box set or codex to sell along saidly

>>52508136
I'm speaking purely about lore though, the tabletop made sense for balance so I think we are in agreement.

Does anyone have the Black Templers Codex?

>>52508221
For 7th it's just the Space Marine codex.

>>52507822
I played against some necrons with my tau today. Completely wrecked what was supposed to be a nasty formation with a hunter cadre and optimized stealth cadre. I advise you play aeldari instead.

>>52508078
At least with nids they have an exclusive list of abilities they have to use. SW can use any psychic discipline SM can hmm.

>TT not equal lore
Even in lore it has been shown that the whole "drawn from Fenris" schtick is something the wolfpriests just tell themselves.

In A Thousand Sons Ahriman shows a wolfpriest just how fucking deluded they are and that they are sorcerers like any other after he pulls back the veil of their conditioning.

>>52507824
What?

>>52507822
Necrons are best for a new player since they're piss easy to paint and are very hard to kill. Get the start collecting box, and then just start building your way towards a decurion detachment.

Also, you should play whatever army you like the most. Don't play something because it's top tier or "OP". That's for metagaming faggots.

>>52507824

All-Might is far stronger than a Primarch. Primarchs can somewhat withstand attacks from large titans, such as Angron who caught a Warhound's foot, but they can't literally one-shot a skyscraper sized titan. Deku at 5% of All-Might's power blew away a titan-sized battle robot.

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>>52506967
Do it anon, join the ranks of the First Born.

>>52508257
And in WoM the wolf spirits of Fenris literally appear to fend off chaos corruption and one of the legendary wolves of Fenris legends that Leman Russ fought literally manifests and wreaks chaos shit then the spirits themselves help to cleans the planet from the taint of chaos in the aftermath of the battle until is declared Fenris is cleansed, there is no other way around this, the wolf spirits do exist, do have influence and are hostile towards chaos presence.

>>52508385
You know what else is hostile to Chaos presence?

Chaos.

>>52508343
>Don't play something because it's top tier

Oldest debate in WH. Some people like to play competitively. Nothing wrong with that, just don't play to win if your group is playing for fun. It isn't that hard to ask if your m8s are wanting fluff or competition.

>>52508385

The warp isn't just the big 4.

>>52508407
No, you misunderstood. "play whatever you like the most" includes strong armies if that's what the person likes. But playing a strong army just to play a strong army is for idiots.

>>52508419

That's a fucking retarded statement. If what someone likes about an army is that they are strong then that is no worse than liking an army for their models. It isn't everyones cup of tea but you don't get to decide what others like.

>>52508400
Malal isn't Canon anymore anon

fffffffffffucking release plastic sisters already GW you hacks

I want to build and paint my battle nuns

>>52508407
>Some people like to play competitively

Then why do they choose such shit competitive systems. Seriously it's like the dumbasses who are playing competitive Smash Brothers instead of an actual competitive fighting game.

That argument doesn't float in a game specifically and explicitly not meant for competition.

>>52508465
Fuck off, let people play their game how they want. You are not forced to do it as they do.

>>52508449
Good job misunderstanding once again. It has nothing to do with liking them for being strong, that's fine. But playing something solely because it is strong if you don't like the models is retarded.

I'm not telling anyone what to like, I'm just trying to tell anon not to be pressured into playing an army he doesn't like just because it wins tournaments. Also, please stop responding to me because you're fucking retarded and apparently can't read.

>>52508418
Yes you're i hope you also understand that psychic powers aren't the same as sorcery

>>52508484
>Fuck off, let people play their game how they want. You are not forced to do it as they do.

waac faggit detected

>>52508484
>Fuck off, let people play their game how they want.

It's a two player game, dumbass. And most of us don't want to play against faggots like you. So how about YOU fuck off and let US play the game how WE want? Shit goes both way faggot, get the fuck over yourself. You're not the center of the universe.

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Would you enjoy playing against this?

>>52508484
>ruins the game so fucking hard that people straight up refuse to play against certain factions, or quit the hobby altogether
>FUCK OFF LET US PLAY HOW WE WANT

Cancer

>>52508456
Expect Guilliman reform that'll disband the imperial church and the sisters, also expect the new power armoured imperial guard division and the new female guards

>>52508453
Just with the big four, they're all hostile to each other. They're all playing the Great Game against each other, as do countless more minor chaos gods.

>>52508518
Seems alright, though gunlines tend to be a bit more of a slog compared to other types of forces.

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>>52508540
Lol not a chance after veridyan and celestine kicked GW sales expectations in the balls

So today I learned about the Iron Hands character, Vaylund or whatever his name is.

I have the 30k Autek Mor mini I was going to use for him. Character techmarine in terminator armor on a 40mm base. Any thoughts on how this guy is? Was going to stick him in a land raider redeemer with some cataphractii, and I do field a devastator squad I can use him to upgrade. My only other HQ model right now is an old librarian terminator. Was going to get a bike captain eventually for stormlance demi-company, and more tech marines.

>>52508540
>power armoured imperial guard divisio
space marines?

>>52508543
GW really needs to better clarify that minor chaos gods and entities exist, even if they aren't going to actually give any of them rules or stats.

>>52508488
>>52508491
>>52508496
>>52508527

Are you all so completely retarded you can't see that your idea is 'play how I want'

I already expressed that it is best to evaluate your opponents and go with a game that is fun here >>52508407

> Nothing wrong with that, just don't play to win if your group is playing for fun. It isn't that hard to ask if your m8s are wanting fluff or competition.

You fucking spastics had to flip out about waac'ing though. Nice job retards.

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eldar anon needs help

>>52508582
Play however you want. I won't stop you. I'll still call you a faggot and encourage people to play the things they like.

are we ever gonna talk about blanchitsu or no?

>>52508619
Have you got brain damage? Can you still not see that I'm saying play according to your scene? I'll quote myself one more time since you need help

>It isn't that hard to ask if your m8s are wanting fluff or competition.

>>52508645
>play according to your scene
Yeah, and that's for faggots. Play what you like and play what you want. End of discussion.

>>52508656

Fair enough

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>>52508656
>>52508645
>>52508619
why do we all argue so much is everyone jumping online to fight someone?

>>52508673
Fuck off you little shit

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Anyone know if they plan on making actual novels based on/in the Gathering Storm?

>>52508741
tfw no slaanesh gf

>>52508582
I come here just to shitpost anon if I wanted a sincere advice I wouldn't be here on /40kg/

>>52508741
Genestealer Cult outbreak on Terra novel.

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What do ya'll think about my list? I know it's not competitive, but it's all the Imperium models I have right now. How would you feel about playing against this list? Any recommendations for improvements or next purchases?

Feedback is appreciated. Thanks!

>>52508753
>slaanesh gf
>gf

Bad news anon, every slaanesh daemon has a dick.

>>52508778
Out of interest, where would you go for advice?

>>52508832
This is bad news?

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>>52508832

>>52508791
Which list builder is that?

>>52508783
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Legends-Genestealer-Cults-A5-HB
Is this what you're referring too?

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I prefer dark eldar dominatrix gf! or sexxy banshee dommy

>>52508858
>>52508859

They are bigger than yours, if you can live with that then I'm not sure what to tell you. Enjoy?

>>52508890
Why would I want Slaneshi DG to not be big? And thanks.

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>>52508887
It's all good

>>52508890
I will, thanks

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HA HA DREADNOUGHTS

Do relic dreadnoughts like the Leviathan and Contemptor get the 2 attack increase from the GW FAQ on dreadnought attack profiles?

>>52508923
>>52508928
This is why Tyranids are necessary.

>>52508954
tfw no tentacled tyranid gf

>>52508960
Oh lord, I'm ceasing contact with you all out of fear of corruption.

>>52508876
I was referring to an event that happen during the Gathering Storm 2. I haven't read that book though.

>>52503482
>not Da Baran Sammdy

Come on Anon.

>>52508847
Any non anonymous forum to call out people bullshit, for all we know it's just you and me right now

How the fuck do Catachans eat? If everything is so goddamned dangerous, and every plant and animal is either extremely poisonous or incredibly aggressive, or both, how does any Catachan survive long enough to do anything? What the fuck do their settlements look like? Because I can't imagine them being nomadic, due to the danger of literally everything on the planet. I love the Catachan Jungle Fighters, but fuck their society makes no sense. Is this just another plot hole, or am I missing something?

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>>52508977
good call. Trust me, you do not want my dreams

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>>52509002
>>52509021

Oddly appropriate for both of these replies

>>52508982
Oh I haven't completely finished the reading Gather Storm 2, is the novel included in the book or are you referring to a separate novel? I searched the term you gave me in your first post but that novel I linked in my previous post was all I could find.

>>52509015
i mean, blowfish is poisonous, but people still eat that. I'm assuming not everything on the planet is completely inedible, which means you just have to hunt your food, same as everywhere else. Only this time it's harder to kill and liable to hunt you back.