Pathfinder General /pfg/

>>52463346
bought magic swords, cloaks of resistances, and amulets of natural armor of course

The only time I ever made a serious effort to gain an enormous amount of wealth was to contruct a phylactery

>>52463346
GMs persistently force me to be a homeless serial arsonist. I just want to make enough money to buy a house.

>>52463346
I have a strong trend towards ascetics. Whoops.

>>52463346
There's honestly not much point to material wealth after a certain point, especially if you're friends with, married to, or are the party caster.
>create demiplane

>>52463346
We were on page 6, you dweeb.

>>52463346

Monetary wealth is nice, but I find that players tend to prefer rewards in terms of gear.

There are always exceptions to the rule, however, when you have a character who refuses any of the magical items you throw at the party, then complains that he's not as well-equipped as the rest of the group because they all chose to trade in their old loot once they found better.

For cases like this, I have lately tended to split the wealth between currency and items.

>>52463406
Must be that desperate to fight degeneracy.

>>52463426
I usually don't give players any monetary wealth as cash when they're diving into dungeons because it seems to me kind of preposterous that a Lich from 100 000 years ago would just randomly have minted gold coins that are considered legal tender in your kingdom, but quite likely he'd have actual blocks of gold and silver lying around that you can sell or priceless artifiacts from ages past. Similarly, actual given quests tend to have most of the reward in privileges, rank, rebates, and cash but minimal gear - the King might be willing to give out suits of enchanted armor for defeating the Dragon Emperor but the Infinity Blade is a national treasure / symbol and you can't just give it out, no matter how big of a hero these guys are.

> If your current character was given a million gp, what would they do with it?
Fuck. That's a good question. There isn't much he wants out of life that money can give him. If anything being filthy rich hurts his plans more than helps them.

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>>52463346

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>>52463604
The power of money is without measure

>>52463346
What else would you do with money, other investing it in science?

I've been unable to stop watching Titanic documentaries for the last week or so now, how do I turn this into an adventure for the PCs without making it too obvious?

>>52463736

Andoran cruise ship heading to Arcadia hits an Ice Linnorm, there will be a subplot featuring a vapid noblewoman banging a gutter rat she just met and will never get over.

>>52463736
Titanic is literally overrated. I seriously do not understand why it's such a big deal or why it's become so romantic.
Chaulked watertight compartments weren't even anything new.

>>52463487
>just randomly have minted gold coins that are considered legal tender in your kingdom
Minted coins were used because of the trust of the government minting them that they were pure and of an appropriate weight. Gold is still gold, no matter the shape... you can still use it to buy things, the only difference is that some merchants might be a little more suspicious, and could ask to weigh or test the coins a bit before accepting them.

>>52463736

I see you also purchased the nonary games.

>>52463899
>gold is still gold
Yeah I understand that but most merchants are going to narrow their eyes at you and ask to test every piece you give them because they're not getting gold-lined lead pieces again.

>>52463898
Frankly it's the human reactions that I enjoy the most. The fact most of the events, and even passengers' whereabouts are traced down to the second is what fascinates me.

>>52463906
I don't know what that means

>>52463913
And let's not forget the ridges on the sides to prevent shaving by the fantasy Jews and Gypsies.

>>52463931

Oh man.

Go search it on steam.

IT'S AS IF GLYCERIN MOLECULES WERE COMMUNICATING WITH EACH OTHER

>>52463346
Create a vast clone army and outfit each clone with an Apparatus of the Crab.

>>52463898

It's because Cameron made a movie.

>>52463931

/pol/ kind of ruined me to that tragedy, since feminists of the day said the men who let women and children take their spots were "only doing what they're expected to do" and the women suffered just as much as those who died because "they had to watch the ship go down."

>>52464015
I loathe the Titanic. I had to pretend to litigate its sinking for my big trial exercise at the end of law school. It was miserable as hell, and we represented passengers and families, the easy clients.

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Here is Psionics Augmented: Psychic Warriors II.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/q973hl6zg7c14q6/DRP2309_PsyWarII_FULL.pdf?dl=0
This PDF contains the silhouette archetype and an assortment of seemingly unremarkable psychic warrior feats and feat reprints. Sadly, the pain sculptor was never published.

If you appreciate Psionics Augmented: Psychic Warriors II, consider purchasing it here:
http://dreamscarred.com/product/psionics-augmented-psychic-warrior-ii-pdf/

Here is Divergent Paths: Fool's Errand:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/lwu5c8qiy5e74of/DRP2733_FoolsErrand_FULL.pdf?dl=0
This contains the Fool's Errand discipline proper, the brawler (contender) and vigilante (night terror) archetypes, a series of Fool's Errand feats, and a martial tradition.

If you like Fool's Errand, please consider purchasing this from the Dreamscarred Press website ( http://www.dreamscarred.com ) when it appears.

Here is Psionics Augmented: Occultists:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/6s76l3mitgoyu0p/DRP2335_Occultists_FULL.pdf?dl=0
This should contain the occultist (govi) archetype, the occultist (shattered mind) archetype, the psion (cryptographer) archetype, and other options.

If you are a fan of occultists, do think about purchasing it:
http://dreamscarred.com/product/psionics-augmented-occultists/

Can anyone identify any changes that these new options have undergone since their playtest incarnations?

>>52460884

Here is Psionics Augmented: Wilders:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ublp1cjvncy6tmd/DRP2302_FULL.pdf?dl=0

If you enjoy this product for whatever reason, do think about a purchase:
http://dreamscarred.com/product/psionics-augmented-wilders/

>>52462924

Here is Psionics Augmented: Psicrystals Expanded:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/3s0jexpddkgukfn/Psionics%20Augmented%20-%20Psicrystals%20Expanded.pdf?dl=0

If you like this PDF despite the gruesome amount of botched mechanics and blundered editing with it, consider a purchase:
http://dreamscarred.com/product/psionics-augmented-psicrystals-pdf/

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>>52463987
What's the best class for being Delta

Psion(Telepath)?
Mind element Jolly Kineticist?
Mind specialist Sphere caster?

What's a fun feat tree for paladins who fight big stuff besides Lay On Hands buffs?

>>52464047
Now to be fair litigating bullshit you seriously see no point to has been a staple of law schools since the first formal ones in Rome.

>>52464056
depends what Delta we're talking about

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsS8NDGIo8A

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>>52464134
The best kind
Wow, I fucked that up. Sorry people who are just playing the Zero Escape series.

>>52464108
Big Game Hunter if your GM allows Local feats. Gives +1 to hit and +2 damage vs. Large or bigger enemies.

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/local-feats/

>>52464056
Android with DSP's ghost monster class and lots of intelligence.

I want to make loads of money and use it to make a big ole house for my character's gaggle of kids!

Nothing sweeter than the pitter-patter of tiny feet on wooden floorboards!

Did the ironfang game get posted last night or was it a bamboozle?

>>52464108
Hi Gloriana

>>52464203
Explain. Because
As far as I'm aware, Delta is a normal human bar his ESPer abilities. He's just old. unless the android part is supposed to represent his life extending surgeries but in that case wouldn't Elan be better?

>>52464227
Yup, here's that and the rest of the games that are recruiting

https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/67321/legacy-of-blood-and-flame
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/70552/shardwalkers
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/72295/wild-weird-west
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/73064/blingmaker
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/73477/blood-in-the-fangwood

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KSnH never

>>52464254
I don't think we're thinking the same Delta. I'm thinking of the AI fragment formed from the logic cores of the AI based off the personality of one Dr. Leonard Church.

>>52464291
Why are we here?

>>52464259
Thanks, anon.

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>>52464021
Aaand I didn't notice there's already a new thread, derp.

>>52464299
Just to suffer.

>>52464299
I don't know man. Are we the product of some grand design, or are we simply a cosmic accident? Really keeps me up at night...

>>52464315
>tfw all the games sound so fun but you don't get in any, or they conflict with your schedules, or they're bamboozles
End it

>>52464328
No I mean why are we out here, in this canyon.

>>52464336
KEEP TRYING ANON!

GANBATE!

I BELIEVE IN YOU!

>>52464346
Oh, I dunno man. Because the Reds are here?

>>52464366
But its a box canyon. With no way in or out. The only reason we have set up a blue base here, is because they set up a red base over there. Even if they took out this base then they would just have two bases in a box canyon, with no way in or out. Big whoop.

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>>52464354
Sometimes I don't know if I believe in myself.

>>52464378
Mass Fly

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>>52464382
Thats ok anon!

You should just believe in me who believes in you!

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>>52464399
Yeah but who the hell do you think you are?

>>52464382
You can do it, anon! Tell us which game listed in >>52464259 appeals to you most?

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>>52464056
Definitely Mind Element Jolly Legendary Kineticist, mind hacking is pretty easy like that.

>>52464411
Probably legacy or bling. Maybe Shard but I don't really like the 'fake gesalt' thing going on there.

>>52464399

Oh hey, it's the meme man from that meme show.

Spurdo spurdo belieb in me :D :D

>>52463346
Friendly reminder that WE'RE WAITING TO REVIEW THAT APP, >>52413696

>Fine. I'll do this and/or maybe PLD. Might have something up by Friday. Prepare for disappointment.

WE DIDN'T FORGET, DID YOU FORGET?

>>52464486
Yeah dude its only one of the most popular shows of all time, its shocking that people like it on a mongolian cave painting image board.

>>52464502
i forgot.

>>52464486
TTGL is good, fuck you.

>>52464486
Anon, believe in the memes that believes in you. Let your memes pierce the waifus.

>>52464469
Lots of good character archetypes to build off of (or subvert) in bling. You should go for it!

>>52464508
UNFORGET AND GET YOUR APP UP NOW YOU LA
friendly reminder to do the above

>>52464544
I'm not that guy though i just forgot about the entire thing.

Why does no one talk about wondrous pigments? Seems like an awesome item.

>>52464502
I didn't I've just been caught up with some more pressing school stuff. I'll get something up. I have a vague idea for the whole treasure hunter thing.

>>52464502

Can someone catch me up on what this is all about?

Anon needs writing advice, and is given a prompt he'll write a character for and then we review it?

>>52464486
Oh hey, it's the bait man from that bait post.

Spurdo spurdo respond to me :D :D

>>52464503
>>52464516

Never seen it, all I know is you guys hoot like chimps when it gets referenced.

Is there any good character sheet site / app besides Mythweavers? Kind of don't want to touch it with a ten-foot pole after that last fiasco...

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>>52464598
It's just a meme, calm your tits.

>>52464598
Probably because not only is it prolific, its also excellent, and you're on a Tian wood carving board.

>>52464599
you can download sheets and save them just in case now, no reason not to trust Mythweavers

>>52464469
>>52464537
>Lots of good character archetypes to build off of (or subvert) in bling.
Damn, the sound of a subverted Swordlord sounds cool as fuck. A dude who puts on the face of the noble swordsman, but fights dirty whenever nobody's looking.

>>52464580
Anon's been grousing about how his apps are terrible and how he'll never get better and no-one ever reviews his stuff.
Other anons said to show us your apps and we'll review them.
Original (?) anon says that that'll just mean everyone will know who he is and will permanently make him a laughingstock and make all communities forever shun him, and it's better to never get in any games rather than never get in any games AND be shunned.

Other anons says that's dumb but fine, make an app not linked to your roll20 account and we'll review it anyway.

Anon said OK THEN MAYBE I WILL

Other anon said FINE IF YOU DO WE'LL REVIEW IT, SEE IF YOU LIKE THEM APPLES

Anon said FINE I'LL SEE YOU ON FRIDAY JUST YOU WAIT

and now it's friday and everything's got out of hand ahhhhh

We need, excuse the MMO term, a Tank in the party. What class best does the Tank job of having high HP and high AC?

>>52464637
THERE IS NO REASON TO HAVE A 'TANK' IN PATHFINDER IT SERVES NO USEFUL ROLE GET THE FUCK OFF MY BOARD MMO FAGS GET OUT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>52464637
You will remind yourself that meatshields don't work as well in ttrpgs for the lack of a no saving throw HEY UGLY target lock spell learned at level 2 by every single 'tank'.

>>52464637
I mean, that's basically all a fighter is good at. Paladins work and are actually playable outside of it.

>>52464646
We have all ranged characters and one rogue. We need someone that can take a hit in melee and provide the rogue with flanking.

>>52464660
No, neither of those classes are about having 'high HP and high AC', they're both about consistent DPR

>>52464670
You need someone to fucking smash bitches in melee, not be a bitch and take hits.

Tanks do not exist in Pathfinder.

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>>52464184
Psychic with snail familiar, obv.

controlled by a thrallherd dog
sorry for fucking this up the first time

>>52464671
And Fighters are arse at it, making their relatively high HP and ability to wear heavy armor their main selling point.

>>52464599
I just used Neceros' PDF character sheet along with Foxit to edit the fields in it (I think Adobe works too though). I store them all on my computer locally.

>>52464652
Hey yeah, why isn't there an attraction feat/skill for beefy Con classes who's whole shtich is protecting people?

>>52464690
Maybe 2 fucking years ago you goddamn retard

Weapon Master's Handbook came out, fighters are T4.

>>52464700
Because 4e did that and everyone hates 4e.

>>52464700
Because this isn't an MMO fuck off.

>>52464700
Because enemies in most RPGs aren't stupid creatures that are attracted to things that are hard to hit. Do you think an evil wizard with 50 int will fall for a fighter shouting "OI YOU I SHAT YER MUM" and go try stab him with his wand while shrieking autistically?

>>52464700
I think there is but it's absolute shit. Swift action to give adjacent allies +1 AC.

>>52464726

To be fair, that does sound like something a wizard would do.

>>52464635

Ooh! So we're going to spoil anon rotten with vicious insults to his writing style until he's a quivering wreck! I can't wait!

>>52464758
I want to be made a quivering wreck

>>52464758
No we're going to offer him constructive criticism so he can better himself.

>>52464773
You should have tried harder to get into Palpitating Lover Dolls then.

>>52464792
But monster rape isn't my fetish

>>52463913

Counterpoint; ancient coins from a lost civilization may be worth more than their value due to collector/museum value.

>>52464502
>reviewing PLD
Fucking why. Lysander and Vult both did reviews already

>>52464652

Well getting sticky and being impossible to ignore is a great way to develop 'aggro' if you will.

>>52464700
Because why would they
Protecting people is not something you dedicate yourself to, it's something you do WHILE fighting.

>>52464756
If anything he'd attempt to Plane Shift the guy into Hell or something.

>>52464823
Yeah but they're not "gp", see. I give them gold bars and treasure and shit in dungeons, but not actual gp.

>every build needs "one-two more levels" past starting level to actually come together
>no matter the chargen, it always happens

Well shieeeeet

>>52464824
It's not FOR PLd.

Anon is supposed to write an app as if he were applying to PLD, then anons will review it and critique it and give him feedback on why he never gets into games.

Keep up anon. It's not difficult. Just pay attention.

>>52464796
Yo- you can be made into a quivering wreck by something OTHER than monster rape?

>>52464824
No, someone's going to put an app in to PLD or shardwalkers or something, and then we're going to review it. Even though apps have closed.

This is simply in order to make their app making better.

>>52464858
yes

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>>52464858
>Yo- you can be made into a quivering wreck by something OTHER than monster rape?
You'd be surprised.

>>52464858
you can't beat the cock anon

nobody can beat the cock

>>52464848
Maybe that's because every fucking game here starts at level 3 instead of an easier level to work with.

>>52464848
Because it always starts at level 3 instead of 4 or 5, or even 1. 3 is like, cockblocked. You're within reach of what you want to be but just BARELY not there.

>>52464893
>easier level to work with.
But when I make lvl 1 starting games with 15 PB you all make fun of me.

>>52464870

What the fuck is that image from.

>>52464903
Try making a level 1 starting game with 25 PB.

>>52464903
Thats because you should kill yourself.

>>52464903
Level 1 is the opposite of "easier to work with". There's NOTHING to work with.

>>52464900
Thats why I like level 3 honestly, you still feel weak enough that you can progress to be much more powerful, there's growth to have.

>>52464853
Oh, apologies. I cant read 100% of posts while at work.

>>52464913
What's wrong with the simpler backgrounds, anon? There's nothing wrong about being an adventurous virgin!

>>52464913
No, I feel fine with Level 1, it's just that 15 PB leaves me with "play a 16+2 INT wizard or get out"

>>52464842
And how do you stop people from just walking round you in a two dimensional plane?

>>52464943
>>52464944
I'm just sick of level 1 starts most of all. It always turns into a clown fiesta of misses, followed by someone getting 1-shot. I sure do love starting an adventure and immediately being killed by a couple glowing insects or a goddamn feral cat. I SURE DO LOVE GETTING A NASTY LOOK when I try to play a different character of the same class because I didn't get to actually do anything with the first one.

>>52464943

Silly anon, you can still be an adventurous virgin at level 3!

>>52465030
I'm fine with Level 1 starts and level 4-5 starts
Level 3 starts are just like
you know

>>52465064
What? No you can't. How did you get to lvl 3? By killing 5000 XP worth of stuff. You don't gain XP by just existing. You have to have gone out and killed stuff.

>>52464903
I want to see more level 5-7 campaign starts, not more level 1.

>>52465089
RP XP laddo
A Wizard can be level 5 without having ever killed anything just by doing research and shit.

>>52463487
Are you fucking retarded? Golarion currency is all about the precious metals and not the marks on the coin. You could find coins with the symbol of razmir in them and you can literally use them in cheliax and they wouldnt bat an eyelash as long as the platinum was pure and the coins had the proper weight

>>52465071
They work, but often they end up with you stuck there for a while.

>>52465089
>XP is only gained via killing things
t. murderhobo

>>52465097
>golarian
I don't always run my campaigns in golorian but why don't you read what I wrote again? They'd get the actual precious metals, just not flat cash.

>>52464637
>>52464700
Path of War is your book: Warder, Zealot, Knight Disciple Paladin, and Silver Fist Monk do that stuff quite well.

>>52465030
Magic
Missile

>>52465089

You gain XP by overcoming encounters, not just death. Half the battles in an AP give XP if you can beat them with just skill checks.

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>>52465094
Hell's Rebels started at level 5.

What happened to that game anyway? Was it all bamboozle?

>>52465163
no its occuring

>>52464259
>Blood in fangwood
>GM has 0 hours
Sounds like a bamboozle to me

>>52465181
realistically the most likely bamboozle is Blingmaker because actually running that garbage AP is enough to make one off themselves

>>52465163
Group A had our session yesterday. Group B had greentext posted last week.

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>>52465163
I'll repost just for you.

>We had our first game for Hell's Rebels group A! it was pretty fun, not perfect but fun. Estelle is a teleporting behind u ninja-maid, Serigala practically one-shots Barney's lieutenant, Hana loses her mind constantly imagining herself detained by burly Thrune guards (not as lewd as it sounds!) and Sophia has terrible luck with her rolls. In the ends all of Thrune thugs get beaten up helplessly by a bunch of girls and a girl (male) and Barney has illusory butt wiggling in front of his face. Also, Estelle has an older brother now because if fits the story.

>The biggest problem was that fight was a little slow though it got faster after the first round. We also focused on Nox (Barney's lieutenant) even though she was just a background not supposed to be taking part in the fight, and the overall mood was a bit darker than it was supposed to be but nothing same after-game talk couldn't improve!

Group B also had it game earlier and they made it a bit further than us but not much.

>>52465281
Which one of those was 2hu?

>>52465163
I think it's actually been a while since the last bamboozle? Hell, PLD was legit.

>>52465299
Group A

>>52465310
Which character was 2hu playing?

>>52465320
Serigala

>>52465320
A literal kitsune shota trap who thinks their little sibling deserves to be crippled for being inferior and not a genetic, perfect build of a freak like he is.

>>52465346
outstanding.

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>>52465303
Does it count as a bamboozle if the game started but only got a few sessions before falling apart for whatever reason? Would the reason even matter?

>>52465360

Molthune Knights had a single session and that was a complete bamboozle.

What is the best third level arcane support/buff spell?

I have an NPC Sorcerer currently tagging along with 3 martials, a tactician, and a psion.

>>52465360
Yes. If you cannot commit to a game then do not organize one or join one. It is simple common sense!

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>>52465281
>>52465299

I was the one playing Serigala, the avowed 4/stalker (vigilante) 1.

By my reckoning, and by the GM's own admission, it was not a shabby session. The players (myself included) fumbled with characterization as is standard for the first session, and the GM failed to follow through on the advertised tone of the campaign and generally seemed hesitant.

Furthermore, we had broken off the metaphorical rails in a fashion the GM did not expect (attacking Nox, Barzillai Thrune's lieutenant, the moment combat erupted), and the GM had struggled to adapt to that.

Since the end of the session, we had worked out a solution to issues of campaign tone and theme, and had likewise settled on a way to better implement that NPC lieutenant whom we had alpha-striked in the first encounter.

Additionally, the GM has asked me to drop the stalker (vigilante) multiclass, as it has proven much too powerful even in a party of optimized, heavy-offense initiators.

>>52465389
1pp only?

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>mfw nobody even thought about making an expy of Knight Artorias, the Abyss Walker for PLD

>>52465369
Oh and here I'd be thinking that the DM had just ran off, disappearing without a word and never actually running anything. That certainly would be a bamboozle.

>>52465389
H A S T E
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>>52465389
Haste
If you have extra spells per day then heroism is also good but a bit resource intensive.

>>52465389
Haste, not even close with three meatshields.

>>52465406
That's because no GM would have picked it? Esepecially not Vult "My Little Rapist"

>>52465448
MY LITTLE RAPIST, MY LITTLE RAPIST

>>52465404
Yes.

>>52465411
>>52465416
>>52465432
Sorcerer just got to level 6, so has 1 spell but 5 casts per day. I assumed haste, but did want to double check.

I think a party haste would be better than spending the battle slowly giving people Heroism.

>>52465485
Yeah it's basically haste, that's the only option.

>>52465320
>Serigala - Small tiefling refluffed as gnome with psychopomp blood, shota trap (obviously), reflavoured court fey pact avowed. Rather meek, bad with crowds and people.
>Estelle - Blinkling maid medic/mystic currently serving Serigala's family. Humilated by Thrune's Dottari. Dutiful and moe.
>Hana - Human bard/warlord. Idol/streamer/gamergirl with confidence issues.
>Sophia - Lion catfolk warlord, noble lady with a possessive streak and big hammer.

2hu plays Serigala. Them and GM came to realize that allowing Avowed with PoW might have been a bad idea and will probably work on changing it. Other highlights include two less-than-a-meter high kemonomimi girls dissuading bunch of anarchists and Thrune loyalists from inciting a riot with power of moe and Serigala greeting Sophia with awkward "you are a nice cat."

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>>52465163
Both groups have now had their first session, both were a bit slow since I am exceptionally rusty when it comes to running games online and people have yet to settle into roles. Hopefully things will go smoother in future, I just need to chill the fuck out and do my prep instead of... not.

Also fun fact, in both cases I threw six rogues at the party in the first encounter, and in both groups not a single one landed an actual sneak attack due to them all losing in initiative and not being able to flank. Such is life in Kintargo, these rebels are slippery.

>>52465485
Heroism is valued for its long duration which lasts the entire crawl and the return trip out, but yeah it only begins to shine at mid levels when you have enough 3rd slots to spare and every +2 matters.

>>52465510
First sessions are always weird

>>52464870

SOURCE

>>52465448
>>52465477
Explain?

>>52465542
>>52464905
I don't know. Got it from somewhere on 4chan I don't remember where now though.

>>52465553
he's a rapist.

>>52465556
Who?

>>52465553
He held a private session for two of the female characters in his game where he raped them with monsters so the two male characters couldn't cuck him.

>>52465542
Look up meme queen on sadpanda.

>>52465565

All white men.

>>52465565
Vult is running a creepy rape game

Is there a PDF with the list of traits floting somewhere or am I too stupid to know which one it is?

>>52465565
See >>52465570
Also this private session happens BEFORE the official start of the game.

>>52465582

I'll do you one even better.

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/traits/tools/traits-filter/

>>52465582
traits filter on d20pfsrd.

>>52465578
>>52465588
>>52465570
This is a joke right?

>>52465570
>>52465607

0% rape happened in the private session, they fought a river monster and tried to get lewd with a gang of sailors but it turned cute instead of smutty.

The smut campaign was a bamboozle.

>>52465607
No its the reality and I hate reality and want it to end.

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>>52465591
>>52465595
Is there no PDF of it somewhere? That shit uses Google sheets...

>>52465619
why would you need a PDF when you can literally search through a huge number of traits with keywords, a PDF is a straight up downgrade.

>>52465607
They're lying, but the DM has gone on record for blatant scumbaggery. I just wouldn't pay attention to any of it, some of the bullshit is unbelievable and some of the real shit is even harder to believe

>>52465633
Because
1. I'd like to have it offline for reference and more importantly
2. That shit uses Google sheets.

>>52465097
>symbol of razmir
Not everywhere to everywhere though. You'd get the stinkeye with Razmiran coins in Andoran, and in Nirmathas you'd get a sap to the back of the head.

>>52465644
why the fuck would you need an offline reference of literally hundreds of traits, in the vast majority of games you're going to be dealing with 12. Max.

>>52465654
>and in Nirmathas you'd get a sap to the back of the head.

Or you can trade it for some brown-brown so you can get high with the child soldiers to dodge all the landmines while you're going to the local watering hole.

>>52465655
For IRL gaming, I'd bet.

>>52465671

Step 1.
Look at the traits your players have
Step 2.
Copy that shit from the SRD into a word doc for quick reference.
Step 3.
Print the word doc of the few traits you actually need reference for out

It'd be like if you needed the definition of a few words repeatedly but instead of writing them out on a piece of paper you keep a dictionary nearby and search through it every time, fucking stupid

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>>52465655
Are you being purposefully obtuse or is my repeated emphasis on Google not enough? I can't access that shit, it turns up blank for me.
I guess there's no PDF.

>>52465671
What is IRL gaming? Is it edible?

Hey guys, odd question: What is the line between "Munchkin" and "Optimal"?

>>52465697
>You can't access that shit

What? Why wouldn't you be able to access fucking -google-

>>52465706
If the GM likes it, it's optimal.
If the GM doesn't like it, it's munchkin.

>>52465706
Munchkin is a playstyle, optimization is meta.

>>52465634
>blatant scumbaggery
Advertising a smut game as such is not a scumbag move. The only questionable decision was accepting Lysander early. Fuck off with this shit man.

>>52465726

Yeah, but, what is a good rule of thumb so I don't risk bringing something to the table the GM doesn't like?

>>52465717
I had the same issue at first.

It has to do with NoScript plug-in for FireFox. Just temp reanble certain domains in the NoScript context menu until the document loads.

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>>52465706
Munchkins are optimizers, but optimizers don't need to be munchkins.

>>52465717
We will grow larger, and one day we will be able to access Google again.
are you pulling my leg?

>>52465741
Take a 'loan' out anon ;^)

>>52465758
No nigger i literally don't understand what existence you have in which you can access 4chan.org and not fucking google.

>>52465767
>it's ANOTHER 'China blocks 4chan xD' episode
I don't get why people think 4chan of all sites would be blocked when 2ch isn't.

>>52465670
>Forest Marshal Garvik recently outlawed the worship of Razmir in Nirmathas in order to deter the Living God's troublesome priests, even though temples of Razmir already exist.

>>52465751
Know your GM well enough to figure it out

>>52465787

>Implying anyone in Somalia will listen to the local warlord

>>52465783
How the fuck am I supposed to know you live in China you fucking retard?

>>52465797

New GM new party.

>>52465741
There's nothing wrong with a blatant ERP game but he engaged or incited shitposters constantly and went on record for wanting gender swaps of men and weighing the possibility of male characters stealing girls.

All power to him to run the game he wants but that's pretty sleazy.

>>52463346
Our party once caused a town to go bankrupt, so there's that.

>>52465806
Look anon I dunno about you but you'd think that the first thing that comes to mind when someone says google is inaccessible is China. "We will grow larger" is a pretty good hint imho too.
Anyway I'll just look through the traits one by one, thank god they didn't put it 100% in sheets

>>52465843
I don't know anything about china's fucking internet. Nor do I care.

>>52465852

Someone's hostile, you sound like a leaf who just got kicked out of another manager's meeting because it was "Mandarin only."

Thanks, Trudeau.

>>52465870
Fuck that, the day of the rake can't come soon enough

>>52465852
Even burgers know about this.
Why are you so goddamn angry over nothing desu

>>52465835
Vult isn't just a sleazebag though, he also constantly plays the victim

>>52465915
because anger fuels me

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My current character makes nearly 20K of gold per month from owning various businesses and is currently working towards stealing the Whispering Tyrants Jewel of Unlimited Wonga.

Basically everyone is worrying about him being a necromancer when really they should be worried about him turning into the Anti-Soros and bringing neighboring nations stability, prosperity and gently under heel in an obscenely profitable way through the raw power of Cash Money.

>>52465921

What did you expect from an engineer.

>>52465933
Be careful not to overload and burn out.

>>52465346
>thinks their little sibling deserves to be crippled for being inferior and not a genetic, perfect build of a freak like he is.
That's actually something that got changed in the current version of his backstory. Turns out 2hu took "characters should have flaws" to heart a bit TOO much.

>>52465895
Too right, the day us godless communists wipe the capitalist western menace from the globe will be a righteous and just genocide.

Does anyone have an invite for the /pfg/ discord? It would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.

>>52465949
Not being a whiny bitch

>>52465943
That's basically the best way to rule.

I played a compulsive gambler recently.

I was never caught up with WPL.

>>52465971

>China bans the burqa and muslim beards in their sole province with a large Muslim population
>The West just sputters and whines, but does nothing

It's kinda funny to think the biggest check and balance to Hollywood's urge to blanda upp is China getting all pissy about committee-driven diversity quotas.

>>52465987
How much weekly prostitute money did you set aside?

>>52465835
When you can't be mentioned without gathering a flash mob of shitposters, there is no avoiding inciting them. Especially with that Diamond Dog shit.

As for the gender swaps, you're a misleading idiot. Half the party is male. He literally stated that as a statistical fact. He had no intention of selecting 100% guys for a game about getting giant monster dicks shoved in you, but would have been fine with 100% females. Therefore, if the concept didn't change based on gender, they had better statistical odds of getting in as a female.

And what fucking merit does that last bit have when he literally accepted both Sigmund and Gloriana?

Jesus fucking Christ anon. I thought we were past this blatant lying. The game is closed and running for fucks sake! It can't hurt you!

>>52463346
I played a Halfling loanshark once. Mostly money was spent on hiring half-orcs to break legs of deadbeats that didn't pay back the other money.

>>52466007
but Vult is a piece of shit still

>>52463346
>Tfw had to be gm of a Minmaxed Artisan who had the party wrapped around their finger
>Got all of the loot and built a colossal sentient battleship to steamroll the everything

>>52466004
I gambled away all my prostitute money.

>>52466017
seconded

guy was a fucking hassle to communicate with at all and i nearly just withdrew my application

>>52466017
>notanargument.molyneux

>>52466041

Clearly, you need to get better at cheating.

This is a thread about capitalism. Let's stop talking about PLD and talk more about opening item shops.

>>52466007
There are three types of shitposters you're talking about; first, the folks who are reeeing over someone doing a monster rape game because they think it's moral degeneracy, second, the people who are reeeing that they didn't get into the moral degeneracy, and third are people who believe the first two without verifying anything else.

Oh, and the fourth are salt powered robots but they don't count.

It doesn't matter that the game has closed, it doesn't matter if anything they're spewing is falsehood or taken wildly out of context or is the sordid truth, if they can incite a negative response then it's a success for them.

>>52466054
Wasn't meant to be an argument
It was meant to be an insult

Why the fuck does every stupid nigger on the entire internet respond to me insulting them with 'THATS NOT AN ARGUMENT WAAAH' its not supposed to be you fucking retard.

>>52466054
Point is PLdm was outwardly hostile to people who didn't know his lore by the back of the hand. Lore that was barely available. Gave you free reign to write your own fluff pieces but gave nothing to dement your cluff in the world.

>>52466076
Nice try anon, we already stopped talking about PLD. You're trying to bait us back onto it.

>>52466080
Because you're supposed to have more than two brain cells but I guess the world doesnt work that way

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>>52466076

We need more people with a desire for shekels in Blingmaker, it's kind of insulting how most of the people only seem to be interested in power or knowledge.

>>52466095

This right here.

>>52466108
Sometimes i just want to call a stupid cunt a stupid cunt

>>52466041
>gambling with your prostitute money
Separate your vices boi

>>52466112

Is being interested in mummy's cummies a good motivation, considering all the thirtysomething waifus?

>>52466100
How did you price the wares in your item shops, anon? Did you go for a monopoly so you can hammer out the big bucks by selling at outrageous prices at the expense of the people, or are you a socialist scum?

>>52465975
Sure, I got it right here!
______________

>>52466095
>>52466113

There were a dozen apps who did sufficient to get considered instead of "obviously didn't get the tone of the game". When /pfg/ goes "let's try to sneak characters in to ruin the game tone" it's not surprising someone'd get antsy about it, wouldn't you be if someone had declared they're planning to ruin YOUR campaign?

>>52465975
https://discord.gg/MPHrcWQ

>>52466112
I disagree. A campaign like Blingmaker is the perfect chance to execute world-changing dreams with humongous costs rather than worrying whether your next adventure would cover your mortgage on your +3 weapon.

Just money is a bit bland as a motivation.

>>52466155
the problem is Vult got autistic about it and started playing the victim constantly Abloo abloo i'm so opressed

>>52466112
Seska's got two desires. Skymetal bling and respect.

>>52466112

My character desires shekels for PHILANTHROPY

>>52466095
Are you that fucking crybaby that got ass blasted Vult told you he wouldnt give you a cheat sheet for your application? Because he was judgimg people by their ability to be creative?

>>52466155

But he sidestepped it all by having conversations with each prospective player.

Really, vult is just an attention whore. Whenever he's mentioned here he brings it up on the discord.

He refuses to stop shilling. He's even feeding us greentexts when all sane folk would have withdrawn to go play quietly.

When someone keeps rubbing it in our faces it's hard to ignore.

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>>52466169

>mfw Artisan is no bueno
>mfw I can't be Leonardo Di Vinci and create a clockwork civilization

>>52466112
>Wants power
>Money can get power
>If not directly, money can buy things that allow you to get powerful
What the fuck were you expecting? It's Pathfinder, at least half that dosh is gonna go into either my "murder machine" budget or my "gotta run a kingdom" funds.

>>52466182
>be creative!
>but don't go outside the lines of the box i made
>where's the box
>LOOK AT THIS PIECE OF SHIT THAT WANTS TO SEE THE BOX HE CAN'T GO OUTSIDE LOL

>>52466202

>Not keeping it all in a massive pile to sleep on

Look at this pleb.

>>52466201
Be an Impossible Bloodline Sorcerer and become a clockwork civilization within yourself.

>>52466232

Teenage Wyrmwitch WHEN?

>>52466237
Hello Mary?

>>52466211
>how dare multiple other people managed to do exactly that and I wasn't able to work out how to do it

>>52466280
>its almost like its completely arbitrary and vult is autistic.

>>52466202
B-but my social welfare programs and my Golarion Médecins Sans Frontières...

>>52466292
>betting people got 4 out of 5 picks right, and that was only because Vult decided to take 1 extra person

>>52466007
>Sigmund
Didn't Sigmund get accepted SOLELY because Vult had played with his player before in another lewd game?

>>52466329
And that can't be done with money while also keeping your gear up to scratch?
Shit, if it's that important to you, just take Leadership and make them all healers.

>>52466364

>Was going to get rejected for arbitrary, petty reasons
>Got accepted in because of arbitrary, petty reasons

Sasuga, Vult.

>>52466398
Its -almost- like vult was a petty piece of shit and this was apparent before the game was even proposed

>>52466398
>>52466364
If the guy that applied with probably the best app was going to get rejected for petty reasons but got in because of petty reasons, does this mean the app process worked anyway?!

Was there even a single shitty app that got in that another app that got rejected was clearly better?

>>52466280
this nigguh has see invisibility as an at-will

>>52466449
Lysander's app was shit. That really activates my mcfucking almonds.

>>52466449
It meeans that Vult only cared about the attention and that he was pressured by memes.

>>52466449
>If the guy that applied with probably the best app

Hold your horses, Sigmund was good but I'd wager Gloriana was better simply due to doing everything Sigmund did, while actually fitting the tone Vult was going for with a character that actually has sex appeal.

>Was there even a single shitty app that got in that another app that got rejected was clearly better?

As much as I hate to say it, I think Sage should've gotten in rather than Bonbon.

>>52466007
Literally posted about wanting male characters to genderswap and considering dropping Sigmund because he didn't want the guy to take Gloriana. I mean, obviously he got past that or compromised, but it's not blatant lying, you could probably still dig up those posts.

>>52464928

I like starting around 3rd level for the same reason. The characters are starting to get their feet wet, and beginning to pick up on things that rookies don't get, but they've still got a ways to go, and they realize it.

Level 1 is not knowing that you know nothing.
Level 3 is knowing what you still need to learn.

>>52466471
That was a dynamic concern. Better to have a cute clown than Ms Rebellion when 3 of the other players are nobility

>>52466466
Ok, fair enough, that one was a pretty bad app. Who would you have replaced him by?
>>52466467
So... what, he should have picked shittier apps? Or he should have picked the good apps, but not be influenced by memes? You'd still be saying he's a dick either way, right?
Who do YOU think should have got in?

>>52466471
>As much as I hate to say it, I think Sage should've gotten in rather than Bonbon.
Was Sage's app strictly superior to Bon bon's, or was it a toss up?

VDF go and stay go.

>>52466200
>He's even feeding us greentexts when all sane folk would have withdrawn to go play quietly.
But most /pfg/ games greentext about their sessions? And PLD was big enough to have people interested in how it actually playing out, even despite all the shitflinging and negative attention.

>>52466547
The people that Vult wanted in should've been the ones that got in is what I'm saying. Integrity is important.

>>52466201
Just travel back in time, infiltrate the Azlanti society, become one of the most prominent wizards in there, install seven powerful wizards to rule your kingdom for you, give them all polearms as symbols of power, have them become corrupt and betray you, have them send a rune giant assassin after you and instead of giving up to the assassin explode yourself and the major artifact you produced to channel your power and BOOM you have at your command a clockwork civilization due to stuff that I didn't mention happening between the things I did say.

>>52466547
Personally I have no problem with his character choices, I don't even care how the fuck he picked them, if he actually had dick picked his entire cast and made a party of five waifus, then whatever.

My only problem with Vult is the lack of professionalism, should've shut up and made his picks quietly. I'm not convinced he isn't his own primary shitposter to bait out defenders.

For a mageknight, which is better: Arcane Strike or Arcane Weapon Focus?

>>52466648
>I'm not convinced he isn't his own primary shitposter to bait out defenders.
I was thinking this same thing during the entire process.

>>52466678
Arcane Weapon Focus?

>>52466201
If you get enough money and influence, you could enforce a mandatory program to turn your people into robots.

Boom, efficient labor force ti feed your Pathfinder megacorp machine.

So many cute older ladies in Blingmaker, I'm tempted to apply for the awful goal of waifuing one.

>>52466685
From wiki:

Arcane Strike

You gain the Arcane Strike feat, and treat your mageknight level as your caster level when determining its effects.

Arcane Weapon Focus (Su)

You may spend a spell point as a swift action to deal damage with your attacks as if you had the warpriest’s sacred weapon class feature with all your weapons, treating your class level as your warpriest level. This works for both melee and ranged weapons, and unarmed attacks. This effect lasts a number of rounds equal to your casting ability modifier.

My biggest problem with PLD is we need reviews for games it overshadowed!

>>52466709

I've applied to games for specific husbandos before, doing it for a waifu shouldn't be that bad.

>>52466709

Is it bad if my blingmaker app is like the third older woman enthusiast in the past year I've created?

>>52466728
>literally only one person reviewing PLD
>it wasn't reviewanon

>>52466724
Oh its a mageknight thing

It depends on what weapon you're using, but generally adding a d6 is equivalent to adding 3.5 damage, while arcane strike scales flatly and eventually will overshadow the arcane weapon focus.

>>52466753
Yeah but like

Shardwalkers just got its first app reviews fucking yesterday.

blood and fire got no reviews.

>>52466739
It's a good trend compared to young fox dex-punchgirl waifus, methinks.

>>52466765

Lies, blood and fire got reviews, but they were in like the first week, there were only like even 8 applicants and the reviewfag's summary was basically "They're all shit."

>>52466770

>Punchgirl waifus

We need virile young punchmen.

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>>52466770
>good trend compared to young fox dex-punchgirl waifus
What is wrong with yound kemonomimi dex punchgirls?

>>52466765
Well, you should have bitched harder about shardwalkers being too hard to get into and if only someone would review the apps we might be able to get some understanding of how to apply better, shouldn't you?

Or was it perhaps no-one even bothered applying because people were bitching that it was too hard to work out how to use fake gestalt rules?

>>52466765
LoBaF got a few from the regular Reviewanon, he's just dropped his rolling reviews format and only reviews on request now. I'm not sure there were any outstanding, I think he got through everyone that asked for it in LoBaF.

There're a few characters I'd like to see him go over but I don't want to request for other people since they might not want reviews.

>>52466804

Whatever happened to Celestial Tournament, by the way?

>>52466729
>>52466709
Not a good plan.
Even if your app doesn't look desperate and fairly creepy, it's probably going to weaken you as a character if you're making your guy *just* to match someone else's app.

And even then, there's no guarantee that you'll both be the kind of partner they like and that you'll both get in.

Focus on making your own character first and foremost, then maybe add in some detail to make your characters compatible.

>>52466200
MFW tonight is third session for assassins.
I never shilled my game beyond the initial posting. Pfg wasn't really interested in it though.

>>52464250
Hello. I'm thinking of build stuff. Your story dies without a build behind it!

>>52466804
The rules are literally easy as fuck

I don't know why people are bitching.

>>52466823
That and the GM put the word out that he was giving PM reviews for anyone who asked.

>>52466826
I'm glad that popularity contest got ignored.

>>52466826
3 days left to apply. Probably gonna be shit. I asked a ton of rules questions then used the build to apply to Blingmaker instead.

>>52466495

Level 1 barbarians are bad asses.

>>52464115
This is true, and we did win the Astors millions of pretend dollars, so there is that.

>>52466729
I wanna ask but at the same time I kinda don't want the thread to go deeper into the shitposting whirlpool...

>>52466786
> Tips tophat

Refined, superior, and civilized Western tastes, m'dear.

>>52464195
I like this. Maybe after several more levels of monster murder.

>>52466880
But I thought WWW was the western campaign...

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>>52466828

This is why you do the reasonable thing and make a man with broad appeal.

>>52466845
Did he put that up on his page? I saw the initial post but I've been wondering how many other people did. If PLD was shilled too much, I don't think LoBaF got shilled enough.
DM is too modest, I don't think all the apps even remember they had characters in. Last time I looked at the game there were so many blatantly incomplete sheets, and I know there's some criteria the completeish ones are missing.

>>52466902
...and then get called a slender animu fuccboi while the /pfg/ pig-fucker brigade whines about how there's no daddy apps.

>>52464637
Just get a burly damage dealer. Paladin is fun.

>>52466924
And then get called a daddy and be memed whether you like it or not*

>>52466924

Slender animu fuccboi is not a broad appeal male character, it's actually very specific!

>>52466924
What would a younger version of Casimir classify as? Would he be a slender animu fuccboi? Pre-daddy?

>>52466924
>tfw want to make a daddy app
>can't find any good artwork that's not from an easily recognizable source
Making male characters is suffering.

>>52466941
I just want to be a Shoujo manga male lead! Is that too much to ask for?

>>52466954
use the recognizable source then

>>52466954

Time to wade through the booru dickforests for usable art

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>>52466954
Here you go nerd.

>>52466924
That is why you must make a hard-drinking kung-fu octogenarian who wants to re-live his rock-and-roll days and adventures ti get his groove back.

>>52466941
You say that, but /pfg/ calls anybody with an art style they personally don't like a slender animu fuccboi.

It could be from a western artist of what is clearly a grown-ass man in western armor, but anybody who wants to be the one man in the group is going to call you a slender animu fuccboi just to try and make themselves look better by comparison.

>>52466952
You are either a daddy or a slender animu fuccboi in /pfg/ terms. There is no middle ground.

>>52466959
A secret dream of mine has always been to play a male in a reverse harem competing with other males. The extended version is that I lose the bowl, I have a secret list of romantic anguish scenarios I want to roleplay.

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>>52466954

Anon, I've got a lot of good older male art, tell me what you're looking for and I will provide.

>>52466977
>he has a katana

christ.

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>>52466786

They keep getting distracted by the oddest things.

>>52466977
>This thing is a daddy character
>Have made apps with blatantly weeb art before that got called daddies
>Have made apps with big muscley men who got called slender fuccbois

Does anything on /pfg/ have eyes?

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>>52467002
:^) At least it's not a nodachi

>>52466992

This is too deliciously gay.

.....I wanna be the friendly rival who also loses who licks your wounds....and more.

>>52467031
[TRIGGERED]

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>>52466991

Sounds like a gameshow-daddy or fuccboi.

>>52467032
No homo, just thick dripping choking overtones, but no homo.

>>52467031
Is a nodachi even that bad if you're not stacking piercing thunder on top of other stuff?

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>>52467039
Are you frustrated?

>>52467019
To be fair, I think this one is more of an actual father.

>>52466977
>Nodachi
N-no thanks.

>>52467001
Looking for someone that could easily be a country healer type. Maybe kinda absent minded looking, like he spends too much time grinding 'shrooms into a fine dust and accidentally inhales some of the dust before he can add it to whatever potion he's brewing. Maybe wearing glasses but not a critical thing.

That's oddly specific, now that I think of it.

>>52467057

Are we talking "getting in Akio's car" overtones?

Because I am 100% down

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>>52466954

>>52467064
If you're using a nodachi you're likely a munchkin

How would PFG react to a character with a d10/18-20 weapon flavored as a Chinese Changdao?

>>52467073
this might be a little too fabulous

>>52467078
>inferior to a falchion in damage
>has no actual advantages for anyone but an initiator
But why though?

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>>52467072
>Looking for someone that could easily be a country healer type