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Let's make 40k General great again Edition


Previous thread: >>52363260

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Death Guard in plastic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BceinBiT9jQ

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>40k rules reference in wiki format.
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>Latest GW teases
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>Latest GW FAQs.
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big fat earth caste tau
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Wait so is this the actual general or the /po/ tier shitposting general?
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>>52367259
Voluptuous, literally bred to fuck(for diplomatic purposes), Water Caste Tau.
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1) What army do you play?
2) Do you cheat?

>Tau
>Yes
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>>52367277
no tits no ass perma jealousy fire caste girls

no wonder shadowsun is angry all the time
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>>52367299
Fake
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>>52367274
This is actual general.

Shitpost is here >>52363016
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>>52367277
Fit, firm and with inexhaustable stamina fire caste tau
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>>52367300
No tau have breasts, that's a meme by R34 artists
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>>52367286
>Militarum Tempestus
>No

Mainly because if I ever cheated, people would know I'd cheated because I'd actually have won a game for once.
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>>52367299
>He's still trying to shill his thread
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>>52367299
I guess Tyrone is busy fucking your wife so you need to find some way to kill time?

It only took a week but /tg/ learned to not get trolled by this, give it up dude it's embarrassing, you know it's run it's course
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>>52367331
How do we fix MT?
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>>52367299
>>52367312
These are the /pol/ thread; look at the previous thread on this one versus the previous thread on the one he's posting.
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How would one go about making Doomrider with the currrent Daemon Prince rules ? No homebrew, just want to see how close one is able to get.
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>>52367299
Fuck off, retard.
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>>52367259
Fire caste objectively hawtest caste.

Bred for aggression and sustained physical exertion.
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>>52367358
Roll them back into the guard as a formation. They don't actually have anything unique.
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>>52367358
Make an all MT army a formation in the AM codex and stop pretending MT is a standalone force.
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Which demographic would you prefer was more represented in the 40k community than it is today?

1) LGBTQ people
2) Women
3) People of Color
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What boards would the Chaos gods post on
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>>52367286
>guard and necrons pretty much 50\50
>I do no regularly cheat but one time I accidentally added a few too many points and then when I realized it half way through the game and just didn't say anything because it was in a tourney and I knew the guy hated me and would have tried to get me banned from the store if he found out, still unexcusable and I always double check my lists now
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>>52367401
>What boards would the Chaos gods post on
ALL OF THEM
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>>52367378
You would have a better time just making a kitted-out biker lord.
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>>52367398
3/4 of my sisters army is not white. Fite me.

I will lose because I am using a fucking 5th edition codex
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>>52367398
Easy, I want people who enjoy playing 40k represented in 40k

>not taking your identity politics b8 whether your serious or just trolling
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>>52367358
I dunno quite frankly.

I love the models but I can't find a way to play them competitively.

Giving them chimeras, let them take priests. Give them back stuff the stormtroopers had, like infiltrate and pistol/cww in additon to their hot-shots.

Personally, bare minimum, I'd buff their Ld and WS by 1 just to distinguish them from veterans. Considering they're Schola Progenium, having guard-tier leadership rather than Commissar/Sororitas-tier seems wrong. They need buffing in close combat a bit purely because of their short ranged weapons.
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>>52367358
Run them in the guard codex.
Reduce their points cost so they're not just really expensive suicide veterans and you can take a decent number of them.
Give them rifles, pistols, frag and krak grenades base equipment.
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>>52367393
>>52367397
This really. They don't warrant a seperate codex.

Give AM a way of taking them as troops via a leader upgrade or something so you can get ObSec maybe.
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>>52367441
They better be tan or brown instead of full on nigger
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>>52367388
What are Air caste even good for?
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>>52367461
The tempestor not being able to take anything other than pistols, in a unit that utterly sucks in melee, upsets me no end.

Even regular guard can take bolters.
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>>52367443
>only white people enjoy 40k
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How do we fix the AdMech?
They get their shit pushed in by marines and eldar too easily.
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Hey anons, which are better? Slugga Boyz or Shoota Boyz? This is assuming units of 12 in Trukks.
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>>52367479
They pilot all the ships and aircraft.
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>>52367472
A mix. Base skin colours for some are dark flesh, for others it's snakebite leather. Rest are elf flesh or bronzed flesh

yes, my paints are that old.
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>>52367487
Transports and flyers, make Transuranic Arquebus 5pts cheaper for those who want to actually use them for some reason.

Other than that the Codices are pretty great, honestly, at least from my experience playing them.
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>>52367479
Feylike really tall but light girls are bound to be someones fetish.
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>>52367407
>shilling the same thread that's been up for HOURS with only 64 posts
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>>52367286
>chaos marines
>yes

I think I have a pretty good hold on the rules and i dont really care about winning but sometimes my opponent will tell me how a rule works and rather than tell him the correct rulling I'll go with it and abuse his rulling the rest of the game.

After the game he finds out we've been playing it wrong and the only one he can blame for this mistake is himself.
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>>52367506
>flyers

Kill yourself.
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>>52367483
Asians count as honorary whites.
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>>52367487
I play ad mech without war convo and never have problems with marines. Eldar are hard, but they're the top army so what do you expect?

what we really need is a skitarii transport. make it a 6 legged walking rhino, basically, with crawler and dunestrider.

has anyone heard any ad mech rumors lately?
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Thoughts on this? I know Cawl is a bit OP for 1k but these are all the admech I've got so I'm gonna keep him in until I get some more units to fill those 200 points, then bump him back to a 1.85k army. Plus I just "finished" painting him and I'm proud of how he turned out.
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>>52367479
Flying stuff.

It's kinda dumb they're really skinny and fragile, since being a pilot really requires you to be resistant to high G forces. Really you'd want your pilots to be really short and squat, with thick neck muscles and as compact a circulatory system as possible.

I know they evolved to be gliders, but Tau can genetically engineer can't they? As it is, fire and earth caste would make better fighter pilots by far.
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>>52367286
>CSM
>noh

Is this bait to try to make tau look bad?
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>>52367479
Just be grateful I cropped out the Ethereal.
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>>52367561
lol no
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>>52367552
Any reason why? Flyers can and have been done well enough before, it's not like I'm asking for some completely useless flying box or an undercosted superunit with more durability and guns than it should have for its price-tag.
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>>52367561
Asians only count as "PEE OH SEE" when it suits SJW's; if they say anything against the narrative they're suddenly white.
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>>52367472
>not painting some of your guardsmen dark AF so you can imagine them saying stereotypical 80s action lines
>not imagining your black guardsmen saying "aw hell nah" when you tell them to charge those marines and tie them up
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Is thisnthe real thread? just looking for advice on harvest vs lychguard + more immortals
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>>52367358
Make them proper spec ops. Let them take 2 man sniper teams with a .50 style weapon that can pop transports/light vehicles. have their heavy support be a laser paint type thing where they paint a target in the shooting phase and if the shooting model can still see LOS on its target on the next shooting phase then it gets hit by the airstrike etc.

I'd even let them lay mines or bobbytrap terrain
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>>52367557
Hol up! You telling me we are all humans and shit? /pol/ wouldn't lie to me, wouldn't they?
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>>52367557
People don't even use liberal correctly anymore; liberalism is egalitarian with republican/democratic ideals; SJW's are authoritarian marxists/postmodernists
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>>52367599
Don't you get it, if anyone says anything against the narrative they're exiled, it's a collectivist ideology

Alt right isn't ass bad but they are pretty similar, it's all about in group out group politics
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>>52367602

Dammit. Forgot file
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>>52367495
Always shoota boyz.
One extra s4 ap6 shot > one extra s3 ap- hit
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>>52367565
take the cog manipulator off your onager. the dominus can heal it and nobody's gonna want to get in melee with it anyway. use the points for refractor fields.
I would get Moar vanguard ASAP and more dunecrawler. try out dragoons if you can afford them.

it's a dirty move bringing in Cawl at 1k points, he's really tough.
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>>52367565
Personally, I wouldn't bother with rangers, especially with transqbuses.

Vanguard are just functionally better, but really I think the big thing you're missing is something fighty that can rescue your other units if they get caught in melee.

Vanguard aren't the worst in close combat but they're not really going to survive against dedicated melee units.
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>>52367602

It's the real thread, the other one is troll.

It's just slightly hard to tell because OP here made a Trump reference and so is also a troll, just a more general one rather than a targeted at causing 40k shitposting one.

Anyhow ask away, I have like 11,000 points worth of Necron models.
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>>52367600
>He doesn't paint his catachans as black guys
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>>52367358
Is GW trying to make an army about Guardsmen without relying too much on tanks?

They should play around with that idea more.
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>>52367633

>Decurion with harvest.

Oh my bad, you don't need advice, you're just a netlister who seems to think he needs advice for some reason.
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>>52367600
>>52367654
>IG

We're talking about SoB
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>>52367633
>>52367653

Looking to see if stretching the points for the harvest is worth it vs having a luchguard for my OL and some more immortals
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>>52367629
To your point; you don't even have to go against the narrative, if you're perceived as drawing attention away from "their struggle" (IE sorority helps charity, BLM bitches about it) then they get pissy; there's the post modernism, they think that there's some sort of "warfare" between groups of people. They use war related terms a lot too, like "ally".
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>>52367633
Spyder + scarabs is good for tarpitting.

You've got a good model count (for a Cron army) for a 1000pts game, so you don't neccesarily need more immortals for that reason.

Lychguard can get really expensive very quickly, but they can be a very hard unit to kill.
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>>52367659
just roll them back into the guard dex to make an option besides blobs or a million tanks.


Actually, how do we fix guard? I got fucking tabled my necrons last time I took mine out.
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How is this for 1250 points?

Scouts sit on the defense line to man the gun, use obsec on sternguard to my advantage, lib with LCdevs for prescience, kantor probably in a pod with the sternguard.
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>>52367561
HOW DID YOU KNOW I WAS ASIAN

WHAT KIND OF WHITE BARBARIAN SORCERY IS THIS
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Stay on target thread, ironically talking about /pol/ trolling us has gotten us political

So here's a good primer, you can have sex with one 40k character from any point in history who would it be?
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>>52367673

Lol no not a netlister it just seems obvious to have a decurion made with 2 formations and thats the only one with wraiths

I bought wraiths when i played for 2 months like 3 years ago lol
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What loadout should I give a 5-man unit of Lychguard who are going with Imotekh?
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>>52367699
What kind of primers other than expensive GW ones are good? I am about to go to walmart to get some, and would like a recomendation.
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>>52367699
Tona Criid, circa verunhive.
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>>52367715

Duplicolor sandable primer is good.
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>>52367699
Fulgrim Post-heresy
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>>52367676
Yeah but you're bitching about black models on general

>unless you're just butthurt about them being black women, then you've never experienced dark chocolate and are just mad
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>>52367499
>Go back to parents over Christmas
>Find a box of paints up in the loft
>Probably 3/4 of the entire paint range from about a decade back
>All dried out, seperated and ruined
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>>52367715

Anything that's acrylic, sandable, and flat/matte will work. Walmart's good brands are Duplicolor, Krylon, and Rustoleum sandable auto

Don't get anything that says enamel or doesn't say "primer" "acrylic" and/or "flat/matte" on it or you might end up getting one of those glossy enamel/lacquer shit cans.
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>>52367699
Celestine, just before she becomes a saint. That way she can never be a saint.
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>>52367728
>implying your image is black

Try reading the conversation for further than one post next time tan and brown are already excluded
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>>52367733
>>52367726
Thanks friends.
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>>52367680
Didn't know Sargon of Akkad went on /tg/
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>>52367557
I've played 40k for 4 years and only saw 1 guy who played dark angels.
The rest is all whites and Asian. Saw 1 arab who plays nids and that's it
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>>52367690
Guard are fine, they have lots of ignores cover artillery and ignores cover lascannons.
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>>52367732
I've lost a few of mine, but water, a ball bearing and some effort have saved most of them.
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>>52367699
Celestine just before she becomes a saint.

People will think I'm the chosen one or some shit.
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>>52367699
The Emperor. And I'd make sure our mating would be displayed on the walls of the palace in Terra. The fresco would be called "The creation of the Primarchs".
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>Celestine will never sit on your fucking face
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>>52367639
Nah mate, Slugga Boyz are better. One extra WS4 S4 hit on the charge is better than one extra S4 hit that's BS2. They're also cheaper, too.
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>>52367699
Bottom right sister.
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>>52367742
>That way she can never be a saint.

Imperial Creed doesn't say anything about celibacy.

Probably discourages it, due to the need for more cannon fod....er...loyal citizens.
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>>52367562
Just that IA 14 is coming SOON(tm)

Which means after 8th, most likely.
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>>52367751
If you want to play a game that attracts black people go find one. Obviously your local 40k demographic doesn't attact black players.
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>>52367770
You'd be smothered.
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Custodes or Sisters of Silence codex anyone?
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>>52367565
>proud of how he turned out
You better share that shit, I want to see some sexy Mechandrites.
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>>52367759
>Emprah can appear as anything he likes

hnng
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>>52367777
Nah mate. It's better to have "decent" shooting and be able to charge than be forced to charge everything to solve your problems.
They also have double the firepower on overwatch.
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>>52367809
Sister of Silence

the ponytail is pretty fucking good if you know what I mean haha

haha
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>>52367645
>nobody's gonna want to get in melee with it anyway
Actually, getting into melee with a Dunecrawler is the easiest way to kill it. I lost a few due to a simple Nob with Klaw in a regular Boyz unit.
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>>52367398
Fuck outta here, commie.
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>>52367706
>TALK TO HAND
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>>52367299
You're lucky I'm all out of ideas to call out your faggotry
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>>52367646
What's the best AdM "fighty" unit? Sicarians?

>>52367811
I'll post a pic but lower your expectations. I'm not a great artist so it came out "great" for me. Compared to some of the other people here it probably looks terrible. I still need to go and get a couple more paints for details like the little electrical orbs.
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>>52367922
Infiltrators with cattleprods.

Just dump a shitload of attacks on anything that threatens your vanguard.
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>>52367750
Maybe I shouldn't binge watch his stuff

>>52367699
This Sister of Battle
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>>52367811
>>52367922
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>>52367873
Should daemons even be able to see necrons?

They don't have souls, they've got zero warp footprint.
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>>52367388
>fire
>not deliciously THICC earth caste
What a fag
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>>52367965
As a counterpoint, the Warp mingles with reality heavily during proper Daemonic incursions, so maybe the Daemons could see them through their interactions with the passive Warp-energy surrounding them, dulling their senses to the details but giving them enough to go off?
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>>52367922
They don't really have a brawler unit, everything is hit-and-run glasscannons. Ruststalkers are their deadliest melee units, but lack the means to reliably get their due to not having Infiltrate, which immediately makes Infiltrators better. Dragoon squads are also decent and can glance mane vehicles to death. Even Electro-Priests are good when it comes to fighting, but will just never make it there.
Breachers can also make for decent melee units when used in the Holy Requisitioner due to Zealot and Counter-Attack.

>>52367961
Looks good, anon, no need to be ashamed. Just needs some more highlights, as you said, like the glowy bits and some more colors on the axe, but I've seen far worse.
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>>52367965
Daemons have both Warp-sight and "regular" sight (as long as the Daemon in question has eyes, at any rate). So yes, it could see the Necron, but it can ONLY see it with its "normal" vision, meaning it loses one of its primary sensory advantages.
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It's that time again.

Come up with a formation that makes (but doesn't break)the weaker/lesser used units in your codex stronger/more appealing to take.
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Dante book share anyone?
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>>52367961
That's a good job on the paintwork anon.

Wash + highlight on the robes would have a good effect on it if you wanted to add more detail.
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Consider this: Cults spin off game of Kill Team esque cults fighting for worshippers.
>Gene Cults ambushing in narrow battlefields
>Cult Mechanicus shitting out sevitors
>Chaos Cultists praying for their god's favor and daemon
>Redeemers burning all the fucking heretics
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>>52367991
Like how we can detect black holes but not truly see them?
>somewhere out there is a group of daemons that don't belive that necrons exists because you can't see them
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>>52367965
>>52367991
Once they're physically manifest, they can use boring old things like eyes.
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>>52367980
Fire Warriors can take an orky porky.
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>>52367980
>Not wanting delicious abs

I stand by my choice.
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>>52368021
Isn't that the author who wants to make Nids interesting, but the fanboys hate him?
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>>52367398
They are represented in the lore, if the players don't represent them in their armies it's not GW fault
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>>52367830
True enough, though if you want to use them in Trukks you're better off going with Slugga Boyz. One turn to maneuver get them there as fast as possible and make sure the trukk doesn't explode, the next to charge out and murderize the unit with the survivors.
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>>52368048
/r/ing that pic of a Tau battlesuit pilot with her arms and legs stuck in the suit with the front hatch open if anyone has it.
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>>52368042
I'm not entirely sure that's true, though, because most of the time Daemons don't seem to create other organs that work even remotely like they should, but as more of a pseudocosmetic manifestation.

I might be completely wrong, though, but there's some lore of manifested Daemons being completely unable to see the Exorcists or Blanks, so it seems GW has no idea what it's doing with the nitty-gritty details of the Daemonic (which really isn't a surprise.)
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>>52368056
He's one of the Black Library's better authors. Not Abnett-tier but decent.
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>>52368015
A Chaos Marine Warband that give them free shit on par with transports.
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>>52368057
>if the players don't represent them in their armies it's not GW fault

To be fair, it's hard to convert male models into female ones, in the case of Guardswomen or Techpriestesses.
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>>52367286
Sw
No
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>>52368091
Those are both anti warp not just soulless.
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>>52368091
I remember in the Horus Heresy trilogy a Slaaneshi Daemonette had problems finding the girl who later becomes a saint. but I think that was because of saintlyhood rather than blankness.

The Daemon eventually saw her anyway.
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>>52368015
Rough riders.

Just...at all. I dunno, 2-6 squads and give them all scout or something. Maybe some sentinels as well?

SEVEN fucking captchas to post this
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>>52368021
There's a mother fucking Dante book!? When did that shit drop?
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>>52368015

Emperor's Children only Mutilator formation. Requires a warpsmith and 3-6 units of mutilators. REmoves slow and purposeful from them, and allows them to make a disordered charge after deep striking. At six squads, they gain Fleet and a 4+ feel no pain.
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>>52368106
Bulldykes and amalgamation of flesh and metal. What if there is already female guard and techpriests but were are just too cis-shitlords to realize it?
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>>52367286
>Tau player
>Cheats

Surprise surprise.
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>>52367286
CultMech/Skitarii/MechTag in varying combinations, the last only when I'm playing with explicit permission.

Accidentally. Didn't realise that Precision Shots was a Galvanic Rifle rule and not a general Ranger rule for my first five games. Ended up murdering a few characters with Plasma Calivers because of that.
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>>52367680
... That you Sargon of Akkad?
>All this socio-political squig-shit

Dis iz why Iz 'n Ork. Simple life more fun.
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>>52367728
I got a hassle free nude sorceress, now I know how I'll paint her.
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>>52368142
Nice, it only took 140 post for someone to take the bait.
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>>52367465
But they can take them as troops, just need to take Castellans as a Detachment.

>tfw "Elite" units so bad they're considered Troops in comparison to other armies
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>>52367745
Nah, their noses are huge too.
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>>52368142
Nice same friending, friendo
Don't even bother with edited screen cap
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>>52368159
I just wanted an excuse to post the meme

I actually play Tau
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Did any of you have trouble making your parents accept your 40k lifestyle when you were younger?
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>>52368073
Krekk0v.
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>>52367770
Thanks anon, I really needed to be reminded how horrible life is.
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>>52368015
A formation that makes it Night Fighting the whole game and makes it slightly better.
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>>52367472
>nigger sisters aren't a thing
>official art from GW says otherwise
>inb4 accusations of pandering, even though the art dates back to 3e
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>>52367286
CSM/KDK, and no. Poppa Khorne don't like them cheaters.
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>>52368021
I've quite enjoyed his ork and eldar stuff
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>>52368239

What part of that post implied they weren't a thing? Tau are a thing and you better not be fucking playing Tau either faggot.
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>>52368073
This one?
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>>52368170
>Castellans

Holy shit I didn't even know this existed but it's exactly what I wanted to build an army with. I've just been fucking around with list builders to try and build a decent army with just the MT codex.
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>>52368239
Question: what happened to all the chinks in the far future? They do actually outnumber every other ethnicity on earth by a very large margin.
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>>52368239
Please do not respond to bait and wonder why the thread has been derailed.
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>>52368207
>>52368266
Emprah bless you anons.
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I have returned anons. And Guard won an 8-6 victory today and the Emperor smiled proudly on my men. My fucktard ally didn't help though. What are you anons up to? And I will stay up to batrep for you all but it will take a bit.
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>>52368276
They became the White Scars
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>>52368276
Current ethnic distinctions and phenotypes aren't going to survive 40,000 years of diaspora and exposure to myriad new planetary ecosystems.

Some humans might look what we'd consider African or Chinese, but they're not.
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>>52368292
They still outnumber the White Scars legion ten-fold
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>>52368286
Well done anon. Guard Invicta.
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>>52368266
Thats lewd.

Could use some better proportioning on the boobs though. Tits that are bigger than the host's head are kinda eh


>>52367821
A night with Fem-Emp would not be one any mortal man could survive. That being said, it'd be totally worth it.
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>>52368286
That is not a flattering scheme for a Heldrake. That being said, grats on your win. I wouldn't mind an abridged sum of the events - beats the shit out of what the rest of the autists ITT are talking about.
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>>52368276
They didn't build walls on their planets, so the people of Attila and Chogoris just invaded them and took over.
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>>52367358
special operations rules
give them their pistol back

fix the assbackwards orders system
give them higher access to orders, because a regular CAD of them only gets at most two, which just ain't enough

they just need a touch more versatility
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>>52368329
Who's to say the tau don't do selective breeding for the biggest breasts?
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>>52368341
That definitely sounds like a "greater good" to me
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>>52368333
>Airborne Assault
Nifty
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>>52368341
But then how would they fit into their standardized communist armour?
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>>52368127
Last week or something like this.

>>52368258
Can you share it?
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>>52368347
That was the one most people used, for obvious reasons. Infiltrate+pinning was always pretty fun when it actually worked.

Scout+move through cover was only ever of use in heavy cover boards.
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>>52368194
>Did any of you have trouble making your parents accept your 40k lifestyle when you were younger?
Can't speak for the rest of anons, but my parents didn't mind at all (aside from reminding me to spend my money wisely every now and then).

Of course, my three of my closest friends (all my age or younger and two living on the same block as myself), got into the 40k lifestyle around the same time.

I wasn't even the first (or most heavily infested) in my circle of friends either. The one who was the most invested ended up getting both Space Marines and Nids No idea if he still has them, haven't talked in awhile. The other two became Tau players, while I picked Orks because, well, they looked fun.

For perspective, we got into 40k in the last couple years of 3rd Edition's reign, and most Ork specialist models were all clunky metal ones.
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>>52367286
Blood Angels
No, cheats make Sanguinius sad
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>>52368333
Personally, I think letting their sergeants give orders would be both fluffy and make the unit sufficiently dangerous to justify their near-MEQ points cost.

They're supposed to be trained to operate more independantly than regular guard, and in terms of crunch, they're a deep striking unit, trying to deep strike multiple units within 12" of each other so you can use orders is a recipe for disaster.
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>>52367358
Put them back under Departmento Munitorum, roll them into the IG codex and make some formation that lets you make stormie armies.
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>>52368194

>Did any of you have trouble making your parents accept your 40k lifestyle when you were younger?

Why would this be an issue? They are models. It's normal for kids to build and paint models.

The issue is when you're an oldfag, and you're trying to justify this hobby to normal adults. In particular, women. They just don't understand this shit.
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>>52368367
That would make all scion sergeants into mini-bastonnes, which I would totally approve of.

He even had carapace and a hotshot, so he may as well have been a stormtrooper.
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>>52368194
I only got into 40k after I moved out and got a job. Mom thinks it's a bit childish and a waste of my money but likes that I paint the models myself, and dad just thinks that giant super soldiers who worship the devil and summon daemons is fucking cool.
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>>52368352
Polymorphic alloys. Superior weeaboo commie metallurgy produces body-armour materials that can swell to accommodate even the largest busts, whilst supporting, lifting and seperating.
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>>52368364
>>52368194
I always wondered how it would be if your parents were conservative christians and you wanted to play Chaos daemons.
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Do you ever use houserules, homebrew codexes, or other fan stuff in your games?
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Are Skatharch Wraithknights considered as OP as Wraithknights? It lacks D-weapons but costs more points.
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>>52368402
My bud is making his homebrew chapter a supplement, mostly with different characters, but theres a few new special rules that are the Chapter Tactics for his chapter. It's pretty cool.

I'm slowly working my way into making one for my Kabal.
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>>52368402
Mostly mission stuff, as trying to use custom stuff is more of a headache than it's worth usually.
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>>52368401
Depends on how conservative christian you're talking, since most people are pretty chill about the whole thing.

I'd guess if your parents were hardcore fundamentalist types you'd be screwed though.
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Why have these threads been so terrible the last few days
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>>52368194
A bit about how much it cost and the violence in the fluff but it was my money so they didn't mind too much. They were just happy I was doing something reasonably sociable.
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>>52368402
Special characters. God my entire wallet for GW to make a campaign rulebook or something that lets people make their own special characters.
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>>52368367
>>52368333
These would do it
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>>52368402
I let some dude use custom Sanguinius rules because it's still going to be years until he actually get them.
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>>52368401
I mean that'd only be a problem with Khorne or Slannesh. Tzeentch and Nurgle look cartoony enough to not be a big deal.
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>>52368467
With Nurgle you could get away with just saying that most of them are just zombies, and in essence they are anyway. Tzeentch to an outside observer would just look like weird-ass aliens with bird and fire motifs unless you run Magnus.
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>>52368446
It's a concerted effort by reddit-based blm and feminist nu-male types to overthrow one of the last bastions of the white man.
Don't worry too much though. We from /pol/ have your back.
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>>52368402
No but my opponents frequently lie about their army's rules and I'm too scared of confrontation to call them out on it.

I guess that counts.

>tfw fighting knights with two-shot thermal cannons
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>>52368392
>Doing a cam show when gue'la invade your planet.
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>>52368510
It's for the greater good anon
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>>52368347

Old guard codex had neat stuff like that. I remember having a ton of fun with the fifth edition codex; stuff like Penal Legion squads were GREAT--I remember bringing two to a game against a gunline guard player, both outflanking on different sides and meeting in the middle. God, I miss them so much, and I don't even play Guard anymore.
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>>52368510
>the stream distracted planetary border long enough to let them through.
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>>52368536
>Stubborn, rending guardsmen
Guess I'm charging terminators
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>>52368404
Yep still op grade weapons and still undercosted
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>>52368401
Parents are both Christians and seem to think it's fine, mom really likes orkz.
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>>52368536
Damn, that penal guy who kills a terminator with his knife deserves to be free.
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>>52368581

>jams his shiv into the eye piece of a chaos terminator

>gets sent back to the penal legion for knifing his CO when they try to stop him from keeping the head as a trophy
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>>52368536
This is what codexes should be like. Lots of opportunity to make Your Dudes.

The Imperial Militia list in 30k lets you create everything from Dark Age of Technology cultures riding around in land raiders with 30" S4 lasrifles to feral berserker hordes, to fanatic mutants with bomb-collars.

Hope 8th ed codexes bring some of that back.
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>>52368361
Well operation hot drop is still an option if you run elysian drop troops.
Valks become assault transports, pretty good right?
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>>52368510
Propaganda is a vital tool in winning any war anon.
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>tfw you saw a post on /tg/ a couple days ago involving some highly heretical stuff with SoB and can't get the ideas out of your head because your overly creative mind has already started working out a story for it to happen in 40k
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>>52368600
Isn't that's basically how Lieutenant Kage works?

Has done enough stuff to qualify as a Hero of the Imperium, but keeps reoffending and shanking superior officers for looking at joygirls he likes so gets sent back to the Last Chancers.
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>>52368653
Tell us what the heresy involved anon....for inquisitorial reasons obviously.
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>>52368692
shut up little bitch
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>>52368536
Bring. Back. Doctrines.

SIX captchas. What the fuck is going on?
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>>52368692
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>>52368701
>Tell us what the heresy involved anon....for inquisitorial reasons obviously.
Something about the Ork Blood Axes, Diggas being used as cannon fodder, and Sisters getting captured in order to "Make Da Best Diggas!"
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>>52368701
Like orks wanting better diggas since most hummer were weak and feeble so they had no good breeding stock and finding that sisters were all strong and could like make better diggas.
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>>52368574
>>52368581

I once managed to kill a squad of five assault terminators over about three turns with a squad of penal legion troopers. It was great.

>>52368606

Yeah, I miss that a lot.

>>52368735

We could only be so fortunate if they did. I have fond memories of... god, I don't even remember the combo, but it gave all your dudes a 4+ armor save, laspistol/CCW, +1 A and I if they were in close order formation, and access to rough riders and ogryn I think? Was fun to play.
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>>52368333
>fix the assbackwards orders system
>give them higher access to orders
What if their their sargeants get the junior officer rule to give 1 order per turn? Like Lukas Bastonne the old special character.
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Finished assembling my Knight Atrapos. This dude is fucking huge.
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So starting guard, should I get 1 or 2 Start Collecting boxes or just buy what I need individually?

Also, Basalisks or Wyverns?
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Anyone have any experience using Malefic Daemonology powers? Success rate/builds/tips?

Building a fluffy Death Guard list with a disgustingly low body count, hoping to summon up reinforcements to soak up fire
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>>52368845
A start collecting box along with an armored assault box should give you a good starting point
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>>52368866
Do I then add units individually? I still need 20 more guardsmen and 3 command boxes to run a CAD.
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>>52368787
Yeah, that's the one I've been thinking about.

Scary thing is, with the Ork's "the world acts according to OUR rules", those Blood Axes likely WOULD end up getting better diggas in the process.

And my brain's already come up with a third of the names & characters for a story because of that perverted anons idea! Not sure who's more heretical, the anon who came up with it, or me for getting it stuck in my head and thinking of a story for it...
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>>52368862
Malefic with horrors is pure cancer.

Malefic with nurgle daemons ought to be fun, make sure you use a DP to summon so that you only peril on double 6's.

Are you gonna use a CAD or a formation?
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>>52368862
Eh, summoning people isn't hard, it's keeping the psykers alive that is. They get perils on any double so all those dice you're chucking are gonna turn your psyker into paste.
For an optimal build, people bring in tzeentch daemon to summon reinforcements, but if you're doing a fluffy list you might as well just roll with two sorcerers and Typhus. But dont worry, GW is coming out with new Death Guard stuff so there should be a Mortation Daemon Prince.
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>>52368536
>
I was wondering what happened to penal legions; did they get the zogwort treatment?
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>>52368862
>>52368919
You could give the Sorcerer a Palenquin of Nurgle. 2 extra wounds would be quite nice for mitigating perils
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Can other races fall to chaos? Surely they exist.
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>>52368896
>Not sure who's more heretical, the anon who came up with it, or me for getting it stuck in my head and thinking of a story for it

Probably me for looking up what a 'Digga' was and being disappointed it was just word for human and not some hideous xeno-creature covered in tentacles and shit.
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>>52368955
Everything except Necrons and Tyranids can, and even Tyranids could have creatures outside of synapse fall victim to it.
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>>52368911
CAD, this will be a list that will only see use against friends, but I'm facing tau, GSC and IG who all outnumber me 3 times over.

>>52368919
Well the current plan is to use a Sorc on a palanquin (4 wounds), aim for 2/4 on the warlord trait (IWND or +1 wound) and take a spell familiar to reroll failed tests.

Even if I get doubles, so long as I pass, I should get 5 turns of free Plaguebearers.

200 points for that chode is a fucking lot though.
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>>52368934

Everything that didn't have a specific model for itother than veterans were canned in the new codex after fifth edition. Penal legions, chenkov, al'rahem, mogul khamir, I think harker, bastonne,... all gone in the wind, like so much chaff.
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>>52368955
They do, there's minor xenos races that worship Chaos, but Chaos is mainly focused on humanity as it's gateway to devouring the material universe.
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>>52368983
200 points for 5 free units of Plaguebearers is still less than you'd pay for the Plaguebearers.
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>>52368892
2 vet squads will fill in the slot as well
also look into formations and the IG decurion to build into a proper army.
you also have to consider what kind of IG army you want
1. Armoured: tanks, artillery, limited infantry for obsec and you could even go FW armoured brigaide for obsec leman russ tanks since they use same models
2. Flying circus: valks, vendettas, vultures and scion squads, can be done using the formations available for MT and IG
3. Mech: Vets in transports with tank/infantry backup. Balanced and may include one or two flyers for assistance
4. Blob guard: conscripts and infantry squads with priests/commissars to annoy small elite armies. May take artillery for support

If I missed a guard play style just add it on
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>>52368969
Orks cant be from any of the Gods except very rarely from Nurgle, and only by force
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>>52368955
They can, the other species typically have more experience and therefore training/methods to deal with Chaos corruption or some innate defenses like the Orks being too stupid or the Tau having smaller souls. Necrons and Tyranids can't though, due to Necrons flat-out not having souls and the shadow in the Warp caused hy the Tyranid hivemind.
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>>52368999
Harker is still around.
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>>52368983
DP might be better; he'll have a 2+ jink, 4 wounds, T5 plus whatever bonuses he gets from DG rules.

When casting malefic powers daemons only perils on double 6's.

I guess the tradeoff would be that you'll be spending around 300 points for the guy, but he'll make his points back in what he can kill as well as what he can summon.
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>>52368999
didn't sly marbo join them as well?
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>>52369022
>Blob guard: conscripts and infantry squads with priests/commissars to annoy everyone involved in the game as you take 40 minutes per turn and roll dice with buckets that scatter over the entire table, knocking over models and disappearing off the edge.
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>>52369063

Did he? I swapped to CSM when they changed the name to Astra Militarum, so I don't have the latest codex, but I swear marbo's model is still in production isn't it?
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>>52369035

Khornate Orks are so very much a thing. WTF are you even on about?
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>>52369035
There's Khornate Orks. Slaanesh and Tzeentch, maybe not, but definitely Khorne.
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>>52369020
true, but I've become so used to playing IG myself that the model count is what really worries me.

I haven't played DG since 5th and I have no idea what the fuck I'm doing

I know it's only for casual games but I don't like the idea of getting my shit pushed in by being overwhelmed by sheer numbers. The daemon engines will soak up some fire but even then they're not invincible, the oblits and termies will appear behind enemy lines and divert more attention, but all that takes time, and if something snipes my Sorc (hiding in the cultist squad) the whole plan is fucked.
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>>52368964
>not some hideous xeno-creature covered in tentacles and shit
I legit guffawed reading that.
They're Orks mate, not Slaaneshi cultists!
Seriously though, the Sisters would probably have an easier time in the Digga pens than trapped at the mercy of whatever Slaanesh pulls out of her/his dildo collection.

>>52369040
>Orks being too stupid
>Not because Gork and Mork are perfectly capable of stomping the Chaos Gods who try to swipe some greenskins, but they allow Khornate Orks because Khorne's a kindred spirit in violence
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>>52369072
yeah pretty sly marbo died with all the other characters post 5th edition, shame since I enjoyed him
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>>52369143

Fuck man, that's super depressing. He was the best ever 65 point demolition charge.
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>>52369055
The one I'd take may be too pricy. He'd wreck shit, sure, but further hurt my puny model count. And with Tau and IG being 2 of my 3 main opponents, I can see him losing that 2+jink quite often
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Is it possible to kill the Emperor?
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>>52369154
What else have you got in your army? And what's your points limit?
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>>52369157
Horus did it ten thousand years ago.
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>>52369149
yeah well if you play d-99 you can get a 2 man squad with one breacher charge (S8 Ap2 Large blast) and a sniper with infliltrate for 50 points as an elite choice, so I still kind of get him and with WS4 and I4 I have a decent chance of pulling it off
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>>52369022
Is it possible to do a Guard army of combined arms? eg Traditional guard platoons supported by tanks and heavy weapons teams with an emperor's wrath artillery company. Aside from that formation I'm not really interested in the Guard formations, plus GW did say that fluffy, thematic armies will be rewarded.
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>>52369168
1500 points, we're all starting new armies, going 500 points at a time, but I have most of mine ready from 4th/5th ed.

>>52369106
It's this monstrosity. As said, I don't know what the fuck I'm doing, and thankfully it's only for casual games.

The Tau guy (believe it or not) refuses to take a Riptide. He has crisis teams out the ass tho
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>>52369172
I mean if someone where to shoot him on his throne... would he die or would he survive by humankind combine faith?
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>>52369106
Your shit is just all over the place there.
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>>52369157
>Possible to kill the Emperor

Pretty sure the only thing keeping Emps alive now that the Golden Throne's on the fritz is because Orks believe he's alive (why else would these humies keep screaming "FOR THE EMPEROR" all the time? Kinda pointless to do something for a git that's already dead!)
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>>52369154
>costs more than bobby
>gets insta krumpt by s10
So if a demolished or hammerhead even looks at him you're going to have a bad time.
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>>52369215
I know, rite? I refuse to take CSM squads with the mark of Nurgle, and I'm going for fluff, so no bikes/raptors/tanks.
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>>52369229
He's T6, but the list maker doesn't show it.

He should be, anyway.
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>>52369189
Yes.I do it and it's pretty effective.
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>>52369230
But if you're using the traitor legion rules for Death Guard, EVERYONE has to take a mark of nurgle.
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>>52369210
With Death Guard traitor legion rules you shouldn't even need Plague marines; might as well proxy yours as regulars; they're cheaper and do pretty much the same job with most of the same stuff.

Unless you really want to do 7 man units with 2 specials; I'd do 2 10 man CSM with 1 plasma and 1 autcannon; you get VoTLW for free on anyone who can take it, and anyone that has it gets relentless.
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>>52369230
Why? Marines in boxes and relentless havocs is what makes DG good. Shitty daemon engines that get sniped in a turn are not.
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>>52369252
Basilisks or Wyvens? I get that wyvens are more competitive but basilisks are so fucking cool.

It always seemed odd to me to run a mono build guard army when you codex is built around each element working together to support eachother.
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>>52369230
You might want to drop the Daemon Engines and toss in havocs with autocannons and maybe one unit with lascannons, drop the cultists too
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>>52369264
I'm taking Plague Marines instead of the cheaper CSM with MoN, because that's the REAL Death Guard unit.

My pride is my biggest flaw, second only to my autism

(I do not have autism)
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>>52369276
The formation benefits basilisks more than wyverns.
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I'm the ork anon that promised to share his rediculously big army the other day, I'm organizing my collection after years, probably going to commission a painting service to finish what I haven't


this isn't even 1/3 of my collection, I'll post again once I have it all laid out
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>>52369283

If you know you've made the wrong choices with your army list and are still proud of your choices, then just do whatever you like.
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>>52369283
>(I do not have autism)

But you do
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Anons, what should I take in my 1500 list? 3 units of Slugga Boyz in trukks, 3 units of Shoota Boyz in trukks, or 2 units of slugga or shoota boyz in trukks with a decently sized Stormboy Mob?
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>>52369310
Shieeet that's a lot of boyz
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>>52369319

You should take what you feel are the orkiest units.
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>>52369189
>>52369276
It could work
though I'm not too sure on how to use guard platoons since I'm a d-99 player which restricts my playstyle to flying circus, though armoured and mech are pretty easy to work through.
I can only give you several tips on how to use certain units
Heavy weapons teams: always lascannon or autocannon. Everything else is a waste of points
Leman russ tanks: Run a punisher tank with pask and an executioner with extra plasma sponsons. If you need another tank take it separately and use a standard battle tank or a demolisher for S10 Ap1.
3. Infantry squads, don't run heavy weapons in infantry squads and special weapons aren't usually worth it outside of flamers/grenade launchers (use the S3 Ap6 blast)
4. For Emps wrath wyverns are a better option though a basilisk can also work, take a hydra if your opponent is running skimmer/flyer/jetbike (skyfire hits jetbikes at full bs right?) spam and you want to remove them.
5. Vets are a good source of special weapons like melta/plasma, fuck them in a chimera and send them to town
6. A vendetta or 2 wouldn't be too bad. You can magnetise and run them as valks or vendettas. Vendettas are a great source of flying lascannons and take a squad of scions in them or a special weapons team
7. Special weapons teams need transports, otherwise don't even use them
if you have any other questions I'll try my best to answer them
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>>52369319
Shoots in trucks and stormboyz
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>>52369223
>Orks finally invade Terra
>Get to the Eternity Gate
>Expect the 'Umie Boss to come out and fight them
>Gotta be huge and fighty because he's in charge of so many 'umies, even the big, tough ones with 'ard armour
>Certainly not going to be some decaying corpse strapped immobile to a big gold chair
>........
>Emperor gets resurrected by Ork belief-powers
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>>52369310
ZOG ME MATE, DAS A LOTTA BOYS

WHICH'UNZ YA FAVRIT?
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>>52369272
The Forgefiend I would consider losing due to the price, it's mainly in there to instant-death battlesuits. Is the Maulerfiend really terrible for it's points?

>>52369281
Lascannon Havocs? Well I suppose they'd do a better job of killing tanks than the Forgefiend

fucking streetsign captchas
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>>52369245
What makes him T6?
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>>52369365
Lashavocs with the DG rules will wreck things really easily and take a lot of punishment.
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>>52369373
Shit, they don't take Marks anymore, they have Daemon of Nurgle instead.

I geuss nothing then, bugger.
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>>52369306
How so? I know what the formation is, but how do Basilisks benefit more?

>>52369331
No joke I was going to build a D-99 regiment but when it was published that thematic armies get bonuses, plus a looming new edition I moved to traditional guard. I know the basics of guard and how to equip them, every squad has a grenade launcher and attaching heavy weapons is bad.

I was going to build 2 Battle tanks and a demolisher for my armored support as they're heavy hitters and the infantry platoons can deal with the infantry with all their lasguns and autocannons.
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Okay you fucks get ready for a GGA batrep. Was disappointed because of Adepticon (well besides a talk with a nice woman who had no panties or bra under her dress) so we got shit together for a 8000 Pt Apocalypse game. Chaos got first turn and I'll mainly be just dumping instead of text.
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>>52367980
Tyrone plz go
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>>52369395
Well, infantry is DG themed, so I geuss it couldn't hurt to try. Last questions for anyone willing to weigh in then before I disappear in shame to rewrite this shit from the ground up

Heldrake, yay or nay?
Maulerfiend, really so terrible a choice vs. Havocs/Oblits?
2 Oblits or 3?

If no replies, thanks to all for the advice
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>>52369310
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>>52369350
Ole killsaw here has killed a couple HQs in a challenge, plus he looks breddy gud
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>>52369444
Heldrake yay, use the baleflamer

Maulerfiend is kinda eh; it needs lots of support

3 Oblits is nice
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How opposed would /tg/ be to a T-Son list summoning Tzaangors in place of Daemon unit of choice?

I like to imagine an Exalted Sorcerer is just sweeping his towers courtyard with hurricane force winds and the Tzaan just tumble into the battle below
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>>52369431
Wyverns already have twinlinked and ignores cover, so they don't really need the formation. Basilisks on the over hand love those benefits, as it makes them much stronger.
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>>52369106
Plague marines are a waste of points since traitor legions came out, their only advantages over regular chaos dudes are the blight grenades and poison knives. And those don't justify their point cost.
That being said I have high hopes for the new Death Guard releases fixing this somehow
Just use their models as MoN chaos marines

I'd probably remove the forgefiend and the terminators as well
Adding a third Obliterator might be a good idea


>>52369154
If you wanna run a daemon prince you might consider an allied detachment of chaos daemon, in my opinion their prince options are the better ones, just use 2 nurglings as troop choice and you're good to go
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>>52367699
Hesperax
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>>52369435
I love this shot and i will continue in next thread as well. But Chaos was spamming the shit out of pyschic powers and managed to nuke my fucktard ally's Chimera and Taurox. He triggered my autism /tg/ he brought veterans with only lasguns.
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>>52369485
>>52369154
>>52369106
The result might look something like this at 1488 points

++ Combined Arms Detachment (Chaos Space Marines: Codex (2012)) [1023pts] ++
Force Options (Supplement options here): Death Guard

Sorcerer [200pts]: 2x Additional Mastery Level, Mark of Nurgle, Palanquin of Nurgle, Power Armour, Poxwalker Hive, Spell familiar, Veterans of the Long War

Chaos Cultists [100pts]: Cultist Champion, 14x Cultists, Mark of Nurgle

Chaos Space Marines [200pts]: 9x Chaos Marine with Boltgun, Mark of Nurgle, Plasma Gun, Plasma Gun, Veterans of the Long War
···· Aspiring Champion: Boltgun

Heldrake [170pts]: Hades Autocannon

Maulerfiend [125pts]: Magma cutters

Obliterators [228pts]: Mark of Nurgle, 3x Obliterator, Veterans of the Long War

++ Combined Arms Detachment (Chaos Daemons: Codex) [465pts] ++

Daemon Prince [375pts]
···· Daemon Prince of Nurgle: 2x D6 Greater Daemonic Reward, Daemonic Flight, Grotti the Nurgling, Mastery 3, Warp-forged Armour

Nurglings [45pts]: 3x Nurglings

Nurglings [45pts]: 3x Nurglings
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>>52368194
Not really, I was in my own place at the time and they like the fact I put together and paint my own stuff. If I was younger though I doubt I would have gotten into it because my parents were super religious at the time and things with demons in them were banned.
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>>52369463
They're a bit overcosted desu, so I'd be fine with it.

If we're talking homebrew, I'd make it a WC2 power that perils like normal ones, with all the restrictions summoning normally has.
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>>52369485
I can't fault your logic, but I'll miss the double plas.
The price for PM's got out of control after kelly saw fit to kit them out with fucking everything.

I still really like the idea of the Sorc summoning daemons, so a DP will probably be a movelty for 2500 point games when we get to it.

>>52369458

Thanks for the advice lads.
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>>52369431
In reference to the basilisks I think it's because they can get ignores cover which wyverns come stock with, this also buff hydras since they ignore jink.

Yeah thematic armies get bonuses but FW will catch up eventually, I can understand why you would hold off playing d-99 with 8th looming round the corner.
With a list involving such loadouts you're missing ap2/1 as if I'm not mistaken basilisks are ap3 and your only ap1 is the demolisher. If you're running standard battle tanks then take the heavy weapons squads as lascannons so you can hunt teqs/MCs/vehicles while your tanks deal with meqs and light vehicles and your infantry act as screens and obsec.
Honestly punisher pask is one of the best combos guard has right now, along with an executioner with plasma sponsons you get 3 S7 Ap2 blasts with split fire so that Pask can go hunting infantry. Then take a battle tank/demolisher for hunting either meqs or AV14/MCs.
The best way to build tanks is to magnetise them and I can't stress enough that magnetising your tanks is the best way to build them so you can swap them out on the fly for each game you play
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>>52369536
I don't remember typing desu... im scared
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>>52369573
You high, boy?
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>>52368056
He wants to completely invalidate 30 years of nid lore because he's a faggot and doesn't understand the appeal
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>>52369573
Is the filter still in place for t b h ?
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>>52369611
desu I'm really not sure
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>>52369515
They also brought four land raiders to the game.
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>>52369611
>>52369614
Yeah it is
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So my friend told me if I base my models with ceramite white it'll make later colors pop out more

I'm wondering if I've made a mistake
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>>52369623
THIN

THAT

PAINT
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>>52369634
Anon....


you have to actually prime the models first.
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Someone help me come up with some fluff for my new AdMech army. I'm having a tough time coming up with much more than "they like machines", which is weird because I'm usually good at this shit.

>>52369634
wew
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>>52369474
Basilisks it is then! I always found them cooler than wyvens. Plus who doesn't love huge cannons and large blasts.

>>52369544
So the guard shoot the infantry, the battle tanks shoot the MC/MEQ and then the lascannon teams shoot the highAV and 2+? And the basilisks just shoot whatever needs a pummeling?
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>>52369645
He only primed it anon. I asked him about it and the Eagles still on it and his answer was pretty much
>Night Lords are dark hurr durr
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How's my Alpha Legion list? (I'd use the web builder but it doesn't have FW units)

Are flamer Chosen worth it?

Should I keep the bikers or swap them with something else?
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>>52369674
He meant the paint on the treads. It's shit.
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>>52369674
Did he prime it with fucking plastidip? What a stinky nigger to bring 3 and not even paint them.
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>>52369685
If going for Alpha, why not use cultists?
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>>52369661

I did. With Chaos Black spray
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>>52369700
I've never really had much luck with them, I was going more for a 30k Alpha "decapitation strike" thing.
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Man I love chaos and all, but I swear if another fucking bolt pistol or anything manages to cut me/scratch me/pierce my fingertip or otherwise maim or harm me I'm going to fucking melt my entire collection
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>>52369685
throw away all chosen
get some cultists and a couple goodies for their points
bikers are good so keep those
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>tfw you could buy Kriegers instead of that new ps4 or computer, but fuck if you have anyone to play with or free time to paint them.

I chose to make money. I didn't realize I'd have no time to spend it on the things I love.
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>>52369701
Okay, next step. Don't go straight white. Start at mechanicus standard, and build up tones till you get to ulthuan grey if you're trying to do white. If you just want the colors to be more vibrant, prime in mechanicus standard, or just grey primer. You're not putting enough thin coats, or you're thinning your paint a bit too much.
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>>52369717
Wait what? Why would I get rid of my infiltrating special weapons units?
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>>52369673
The basilisks will fire on similar targets to the battle tanks, which is light AV12 and lower as well as meq and other blobs. infantry blobs deal with other infantry and the lascannon teams hit high AV and 2+.
Lascannons are not a cost effective way of removing terminators btw and something like terminator annihilation force and massed 2+ could fuck you hard. You need some blast/mult shit Ap2 weapons like plasma cannons/demolisher cannons or plasma guns. Also you would need at least one melta suicide team of some sort to hit Av14 since lascannons alone are going to get caught up against MCs/GCs mainly.
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>>52368402
Yeah, me and my freinds will often set house rules if we're doing things like kill team to make the games we play go faster and be more combat focused.
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>>52369739
I respect you for playing Bangles.

That having been said list looks fun.
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>>52369731
they cost a ton and will all die in a single turn
to be honest I never played them as alpha legion and the infiltrate might make them more useful but for me they never worked out
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>>52368457
Shit I never knew how much I wanted this until now. I would buy it in a heartbeat if it was available.
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>>52368457
Kill Team
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>>52369766
I've never had issues with them, the Sorcerer with the Mindveil can get them around where they need to be easily enough.
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>>52369754

I'm sure it will get blown out of the sky by the Riptide Wings or White Scars Gravbikers that permeate my store, but damnit, I want to have fun doing it.
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>>52367398
None of the above.
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>>52369822
are you seriously taking bait 3 hours and 300 posts later?
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Question: Have Orks ever used humans as advisors/tacticians? Like, a Freeboota Kaptain having a human advisor for space battles to help direct where best to ram the enemy or something like that?
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>>52369741
The local meta makes 2+ pretty rare. There's a lot of 30k and MEQ armies. There are some DE and Skitarii players but mostly MEQ. I haven't seen any termies in years.
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>>52369839
probably samefagging
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>>52369910
Page 5 you stupid fuck.
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>>52369910
Fuck off with your shit thread you dumb nigger.
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>>52369910

god dayum dis guy still ain't it dat shit ain't right baka senpai
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>want to play a ton, have almost 5000 points of stuff
>only get to play once a month because none of my local friends play and the only way to play at the store is when there's a tourney
>brother only has a SC! box so far and wants to start playing too
>has 1 small GW store in his town and a huge 3-story hobby store with everything from card games to comics to tabletop, LARPing and action figures that has their entire basement set up for painting minis and playing Warhammer every weekend and a good 15% discount on many things
>suggest that he could just go and play there since I won't be over that often and can't bring more than maybe 1500 points at absolute maximum
>doesn't want to do it because fuck interacting with people
>claims that I'm the introvert NEET of us

God fucking dammit, why is it always the people not appreciating things that get those things.
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I am trying to make something defendy/shooty with IF tactics. How does this look?

Devs in the aegis, lib with the devs using prescience. Not sure where to put senor pedro yet.
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#52369910
When the fuck are mods going to do something about this piece of shit?

Not even giving that fuck a (You).
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>>52369863
that's fair enough then, my local meta is fairly balanced, majority marine armies with a csm, ork, eldar, tau player who is a professional male model (idk why he plays 40k), knights (faggot runs a 4 knight amy at 1500 points) and skitarii player. Store owner plays tau and cheeses himself out with riptide wings but I play tau as well (not a faggot though) so I guess it's a fairly standard meta. There are not guard players though, so I feel a little lonely with my d-99 but I'm the only guy who fucks up the cheldar player in tournament lists since no brings interceptor and skyfire en masse to deal with the metric fuckton of flyers I dump on the table (between 3-5 per 1000 points).
Guess I rambled a bit too much, that sort of focus sounds good for your meta, maybe dump a list on us (preferably using battlescribe as the image list builder is shit) and someone will help you out.
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>>52368668
At first. They didn't let him out after the first time. You only get one last chance.
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>>52369965
Just report and move on
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>>52369973
There's two eldar players and no one really gives them games because they're cheese mongering faggots. The 30k guys will tone it down if you ask because they at least have the capability to understand that not everyone likes getting assblasted by 4 quad mortars or 3 thanatars a turn. Mostly just a shitload of marines. There are 2 guard players but they're both flakier than a bran flakes factory.
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Why the fuck do you think it's /pol/?
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>>52370076
cause all the shitty bait that has nothing to do with the game, half the thread is just blatant sjw shit
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>>52369859
I can't find it, but there's some old RT era Blood Axe description and pic that talks about how Blood Axes will use human advisors from time to time, and showed a Warboss in yellow/blue camouflage uniform and a human and ogryn wearing sunglasses.
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>>52370067
yeah it's always annoying when waac players continue waacing even though you ask them not to, I've got a pretty good rule for playing most games.
- If I don't bring a lord of war, neither do you
also If I'm playing my tau army and you ask for a casual game I ask whether a riptide is ok (when playing 1250 or less) and how many flyers is ok (I only own fw tau flyers since gw ones are shite). Everything else (FW included) is free reign.
When I play d-99 I have to go all out since if I don't I get fucked since d-99 without/less flyers is a bunch of T3 infantry with deep strike but no hot shot guns or carapace armour so they're pretty shit
At least with standard guard you can't really waac and people can't get mad at you for waacing since IG doesn't have anything too op
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>>52370104
>cause all the shitty bait that has nothing to do with the game, half the thread is just blatant sjw shit
Dunno dude, why would they appear right after 8th edition stuff was announced?
Also
>promoting GW official channel in both generals
coincidence?
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>>52370169
nah, fuck off you fear mongering faggot. go burn your army and post it to youtube so I can laugh when 8th hits and there are less of you autists in my hobby to deal with.
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How far of a list is this? Will it still be decently balanced and fun for both me and my opponent as well?

I really fucking love Kastelan Robots and skipping on the Dominus to instead get the Elimination Maniple bonus and have room for some Skitarii seems worth it. Not sure what to do with the Dragoon and the Rainment of the Technomartyr, though. Raiment might be a bit expensive and one Dragoon might be too easy to kill instead of investing in special weapons for the Skitarii.

Would obviously take the Datasmith as my Warlord instead of a Skitarii.
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>>52369859
Yeah, Blood Axes. Most orks won't, but Blood Axes hire themselves out as mercs all the time in lore and work with 'umies plenty. Freebootas do it too, in DoW 2 the Ork Kaptin gets hired by an inquisitor.
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>>52370204
*How fair
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>>52369859
Orks work as mercenaries for humans occassionally, mainly blood axes.

Can't think of a canon example of them having a human advisor but I wouldn't say it'd violate the fluff for a warboss to keep a 'pet' human around to give him adv....er...remind him of excellent ideas he had early but forgot, on account of having so many excellent ideas....
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>>52370204
How many wounds on a datasmith?
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>>52370189
>t.I hate tabletop games
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>>52370204
It's a tough list but low model count. Nothing bad from a cheese point of view, they'd just need to swamp it with attacks or pack lots of heavy weaponry.
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>>52370224
2 on the Datasmith, 3 on each Robot.
Has a 2+/4++/5+++ save and T 4.
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>>52370233
tabletop games are great, turning other people off from my hobby isnt friend.
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>>52370251
>turning other people off from my hobby isnt
It's good if other people are cancerous as you.
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>>52370264
thanks for proving the point
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>>52370145
Plus I've found the few times I've been able to play against Guard it's been fun. There is one guard player and he's criminally incompetent, but otherwise it's always a fun game. Guard don't have many OP things and even then if I was looking for OP shite I'd be playing Eldar.

Are you able to post D-99 Pics? Pic related is my Guardsmen scheme.
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Quick question: does a situation that sets a model's BS to 1 count as that model firing Snap Shots?
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Games Workshop General Discord, a place for when the thread is dead or you want slightly faster paced chat!

https://discord.gg/Zeh7nhC
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>>52370221
2e had a few examples of that.
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>>52370271
That newcomers with extratribalism are cancer?
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>>52370274
No, so you can still fire templates and blasts.
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>>52370282
>Games Workshop General Discord,
Why would anyone need official GW channel?
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>>52370291
Alright, thanks, sweet.
I presume it, on the other hand, also doesn't give the Cognis and similar abilities bonus, right?
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>>52370204
If you play vs IG, you are fucking dead
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>>52370314
>tfw have IG and several Ork players in store
Yeah, I might swap one unit of Grav for Plasma to have something against them.
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>>52370305
Without looking at the actual wording I couldn't say for 100%, but generally no, they wouldn't give their benefits.
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>>52370297
It's not official.
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>>52370273
I'd post pics but I leave my army box in store when I'm not playing. Also I have been painting my tau. I'm waiting on my airbrush to arrive so I can do the flyers and do easy base coats. Right now everything is primed black and magnetised but I haven't even begun painting. I'll be sure to post pics when I actually start painting.
You already seem to paint better than me so I can't really impress you, if you want I'll chuck a pic of the tau I've currently done
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What is the most embarrassing thing that has happened to you or was done by you during a 40k game night/tournament?
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>>52368911
Horrors can't summon now. They lost access to Malefic in their more recent supplements, in exchange for creating new units of blues and brims.
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>>52370489
Picking up a mini, placing it back down, only then noticing that the base fell off.

My games are very uneventful.
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>>52370489
When I walked up to my local waac eldar player who runs a wraithknight and scatbike spam at 1000 points with my d-99 list and challenged him.
>"Anon, are you sure you want to battle, Imperial Guard are really weak right now"
I then proceeded to wipe the floor with him since he wasn't prepared for Ap2 weapons deep striking everywhere around him.
safe to say he was pretty embarrassed and salty about losing, especially since the only other guy who came close to beating him was our daemon player who still lost.
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>>52370463
Sweet man post your Tau. Pic related is my riptide I did a while ago.

Thanks for the compliment man, but don't put yourself down, I've paint more than I play, I'm pretty average at 40k.
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>>52370291
>>52370305
False. Templates get D3 Auto-hits in Overwatch, and Blasts cannot fire. Unless there's some other situation which reduces BS to 1?
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>>52367483

It's dumb because I literally spoke with two black dudes who played Space Wolves and Thousand Sons. They were talking about the amount of helmeted heads and bare heads in the kit and one was like "Man what if they don't have enough helmets for all of them?" I was like "They're space marines desu- what chapt-" I look over, see space wolves and just "lol nah they def don't need em."

and then we got into a conversation on the current state of 40k and all that and seemed like chill dudes.
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>>52370520
Yeah but summoning them means more warp charges, and when a when a pink horror splits into a blue horror the unit of blues generate an ADDITIONAL charge. Things get out of hand very quickly with just one daemon prince and some other psykers as batteries
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>>52370443
Then why it's called
>Games Workshop General Discord,
Not Warhammer or anything like this?
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>>52370642
I'm not sure if there are situations, but I'm sure there's some Psychic power or special wargear that lowers BS to 1 (I think the Culexus' special weapon does that to Psykers or something for example) and was curious how that would then interact.
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>>52369946
But anon, if you have a gamestore with a healthy group and you're not going for literally no reason, then maybe you're the problem. Go take a look in a mirror you fucking niggeroid.
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>>52370672
Ah, alright then. Yeah, in situations like those then it'd work like anon said. What I said is for overwatch. Templates and Blasts cannot snapfire though, so make that of what you will.
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>>52370599
Here is my first fire warrior squad, these guys were from a friend who got them as a gift and gave them to me after he assembles them and attempted to base them with superglue. I've only painted them and have begun to kind of strip away his fail basing. Otherwise I have a couple of stealth suits done and one crisis suit painted as well
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>>52370673
The thing is that my store literally only ever plays once per month because he doesn't have the room for pick-up games so only does tournaments. Te playerbase there is also constantly switching and apart from 1 or 2 guys the line-up for those tourneys is a different group every single time.

I would obviously go there to play if there were a place to play but, alas, the only store there is is half an hour away already, tiny as fuck and has an equally tiny playerbase. I'd be over playing in that huge store my brother has available every week if it wouldn't be almost 2 hours away by car, right in the middle of the city where you can't park anywhere because >old German cities and going there by train costs around 35€.

Niggeroid yourself you goonhead.
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>>52370760
Bruh, I already have a 30 minute commute across highways to go to a geedubs on the edge of a YUUUUGE city. It's not even that hard to get to since I have an AUX cord and a 10$ Mp3 player with my melodic death metal tunes to make the drive completely tolerable. Stop bitching and just go to the fucking store on saturdays, you're not special for complaining about a complete non-issue.

Sprachen sie Deutsche?
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>>52370753
Farsight man, nice. Are Tau your secondary army?
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I'm not a fan of Tau design or gameplay or playerbase, but it always fills me with glee to see Tau that are actually painted.
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>>52370489
Something that springs to mind from recently: An opponent used Fulmination to swap the position of his Librarian and his team with my 10 man slaanesh cultist squad. Said squad managed to wipe out 2 tactical squads by the end of the game while only losing 5 dudes in the process.
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Since we're posting models, here's some word bearers I just finished up. Not too happy with the bases, but this was just a small squad for a larger chaos army, so I didn't have much in mind for what to stand them on.
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>>52370908
tau are actually my primary, I started them as a battlefleet gothic army a long time ago, but bfg went the way of other specialist games so I jumped into normal tau during the end of 5th. Sort of forgot about tau during 6th and was jolted back for 7th where I picked up some extra stuff.
Yeah I didn't know which sept I wanted to play at the time so I picked farsight since I thought he was cool. I'm painting the rest of my army in kel'shan sept which is why I'm waiting for my airbrush so I can do those grey base coats on everything with ease.
I only actually started D-99 a couple of months ago and most of my army is recast (fw is expensive af and takes forever to ship in straya + I've had really shit casts from them when I was ordering tau). The only non recast things I have are the standard valks with the vendetta bits being legit as well.
I've still got my allied elysians army to work on as an allied detachment to my d-99 which needs assembling since 130 point vendettas and 100 point valks are pretty good value.
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It's 6am and I'm just this moment finishing gluing the models I need for a tournament at 1pm

I am so going to fucking lose.

Next months tournament is 1250 points up from 1000, different objectives and I have no idea what to play. Flier ban is lifted so I may try and shave 90 points off my 1000 point list without gimping it, so probably by dropping the 4++ and artefact weapons from my chaos lords in maelstrom of gore and raptor talon and chucking in a 2 unit heldrake terror pack.
Might help if I actually looked at the rules for the mission
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>>52370663
This is very true. Apologies, I misunderstood your prior statement to mean using horrors to summon more horrors. Their own warp charge multiplication IS very potent.
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>>52371061
> Lifting Flyer bans in a tournament
Gee anon, this would be a great sign for every list ever SUDDENLY including a Deredeo at exactly 250 extra points.
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>>52371125

Like CSM can take deredeos.
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>>52370520
only pinks can't summon, blue and brimstone horrors can roll their powers on Malefic.
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>>52371156
It is for all 25 of the space marine players that will show up. And a Deredeo is capable of splashing one and a half hell turkeys a turn.
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>>52371125
>>52371171
This isn't some big tournament. We had 10 people last time, maybe a few more on top of that going today. I think among those ten there were 2 SM players, 1 necrons, 2 Ynarri, 1 Ad Mech, 1 SoB, 2 CSM World Eaters (1 was me) and I forget the other
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>>52369739
What happens if you don't get first turn?
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>>52371087
No problem; I remember a big panic before over the new splitting rules and horrors using malefic.
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>>52371033
fellow ausfag, yeah no joke fw is ruinous. I guess you went for actual Elysian models? I can't stand them, they look like arse.
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>>52371425
I personally love the actually love the actual elysian models, especially the grav chutes that make them look fucking awesome.
Though, if you don't mind me asking, what's so bad about them?
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>>52371504
The ones I've seen in person, just their cast is pretty bad and they are really, really weedy sized models. I suppose the shit paintjob that was on them didn't help but I've always preferred the Cadian models. Also, forgeworld prices and resin.
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>>52371504
Not him, but I love elysians... except for the heads. The heads just ruin it for me. I think it's the goofy eyeglasses combined with the open lower face. Would have been much cooler if fully enclosed.
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>>52371353
Kairos Fateweaver, some heralds on discs, and 50 pink horrors splitting into a jillion other horrors. Grimoire, etc.

What can men do against lists such as these?
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>>52367234
Page 9, time to move fellas.
>>52371698
>>52371698
>>52371698
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>>52371646
I'm not joking when I saw this; Dakka.

It's the only way, and very few armies can actually put out enough dakka to handle it.

It just goes to show you can never have enough dakka.
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>>52371798
Go fuck yourself.
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>>52371798
>Look mom, I posted it again!
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>>52371718
>>never enuf
I wish I could have so much dakka I could kill that many splitting dudes with solid to unacceptable invuln saves.

>>mfw someone claims a 5++ on cheap light utility infantry is anything other than amazing
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>>52367449

>not filename Mogadishu.jpg
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