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Song of Swords: Glory, Amen!

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Last time on Song of Swords:
KICKSTARTER COMPLETE!
35K GET
PLOT HOOK HANDBOOK CONFIRMED
SOS CONFIRMED
GOTT MITT UNS

The KS link & Opaque's website
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2006613790/song-of-swords-tabletop-roleplaying-game
http://www.songofswords.net/

Song of Swords is a a tabletop RPG centered around realistic medieval fightan' with a ludicrous variety of weapons and fighting styles, centered around a dice pool system. It's currently in beta, and can be used for both fantasy and historical games. Kickstarter is happening NOW we are kicking ass baby!

Call of the Void: Ballad of the Laser Whales is a pulpy sci-fi tabletop RPG about fighting space-nazis and hunting giant whales with harpoons made out of the moon. Its combat system is more modern, based in the early 20th century, but can probably handle combat up to the present day.

MEGA folder containing current version of the game and all supplementary materials.
Note that the latest version of the game is v1.9.9 but with additional supplements. It's NOT what's currently on Opaque's website, because Jimmy is Jimmy.
https://mega.nz/#F!S89jTT7J!ozFi9GvzaFGHfBa59Ik2-Q

Here's a wiki detailing SoS's fantasy setting, getting filled up bit by bit as Jimmy reveals more details:
http://tattered-realms.wikia.com/wiki/Tattered_Realms_Wiki

We also have a Discord now, at https://discord.gg/zzTq7Xw
And a Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/SongofSwordsRPG/

There's also a roll20 room where new players are encouraged to try the rules, test new rules, and find game breaking issues: https://app.roll20.net/join/346755/hRKd4w
If you're looking to learn, post here in the thread. We also play Guy Windsor's card game Audatia in the room.

The Legend is Born Again!
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>post yfw 35k
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>>52264876
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9QRa0hdf9E
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>get in the campaign at 2h left until finish

I don't even know if I'll be living where I am in a year, but I want to abuse the mechanics for car fighting rules.

Fuck your HEMAboo schilt-tag vormtag bullshit, I want Mad Max Chrylsers skullfucking toyotas on the tarmac in hot, realistic, d10 pools
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>>52265491
Why didn't you use Car Wars or GURPS Autoduel?
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>>52265670

Because GURPS makes my players think they're allowed to make choices for themselves, and Car Wars is for thirty-year-old nostalgics
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>>52265726
>I don't want my players to think they're allowed to make choices for themselves
Interesting.
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>>52265811
Freedom is Slavery
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>>52265830
Only on opposite day
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>>52265830
300% success is a failure
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>>52265830
Refusal is consent.
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>>52267554
Red/Red is Blue/Blue
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>>52264876
I can't believe we did it.
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>>52264876
Slaves/10
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Does anyone want to clue me in on why you would ever use a zweihander when you could just buy a spear?
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>>52268780
It does a lot of cutting damage and is therefore really good at Breaking, and the only thing it's bad at is thrusting. A better question is, if you wanted a good cutting weapon, what would be better than a zweihander? Remember that 2H Sword is basically the strongest proficiency.
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>>52268780
Uhh, in-game? Because it's a sword, which gives you lots of maneuvers Spear doesn't get. It's great for cutting, which works well with power attacks and flourishing drills. Your question is backwards, you should be asking why you'd use a spear instead of a zweihander.
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>>52264876
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>>52264876
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>>52269066
is that alunya

is there more
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does ballad have rules for tank combat?
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>>52264876
>mfw I'll have to fork out another $200 dollarydoos for the Tales from Tattered Realms book because they didn't say it was a part of any prior packages
>mfw I'll gladly do it anyway
>mfw it was all worth it in the end because now I can stab my friends in the dick and give them sepsis
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>>52263203
And now you've learned a valuable lesson you dumb piece of shit. Time to sell your bed and/or cherry on craigslist.
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>>52269366
No
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>>52269366
You know the answer Nope
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>>52269366
Soon, my child. Soon we will have our hyper realistic tank combat, as pictured.
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>>52264876
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Any other ideas for an iconic to embody the thread? Thus far we have Zellish Guts with encyclopedic knowledge of military equipment who buys into the ideology of Rade.
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>>52269533
An insanely rich dude that spends all his money on small but vicious dogs
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>>52269533
Foreign prince who pursued magical arts out of boredom and lost his kingdom overnight. Basically Caliph Stork and $500 guy rolled together.
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>>52262860
You got more tears than you'd asked for
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>>52269533
Can we have a drawfag do an edit of the "I am a genius/Oh no!" image (that I don't have and am too lazy too google image search) with the shitty crying anime character that I'm pretty sure is from Deadman Wonderland or whatever?
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So lets get back to the actual rules discussion?
Other then the more puzzle based monster how well do you anons think the more combat focused monsters would work? The test zombie and skeletons feel a bit boring.
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>>52270079
Looks like it was Ganta from DW. Also do you mean the image with Klim Nick in it?
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Rate my suit of bulletproof knight armor /tg/.

http://pastebin.com/Fti7jVRy

The Elbow, Hands and Feet have 9/8/7 AV.

The Head, Face and Neck has 8/7/6 AV.

Hips have 6/4/3 AV.

Everywhere else has 11/10/9 AV. That's 80% of the body covered in 11/10/9 armor.

Weight is 34. If you have Armored Noble and END 7 then you"ll only have to face light encumbrance.
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>>52270729
I feel bad for your horse.
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>>52269533
Zellish Guts is stupid.

We need a waifumancer. A foppish sop obsessed with all these rough women with their wild ways. He chases, always, Gizka and Eskarne, Joan and the Pontifatrix, and the Moon, too. His hunt has no end, and he can never rest, but he is glad. He knows he is on the path of virtue.

If only he could leave his mothers' villa...
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>>52269533
JOHN
GALT
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>>52269533
>>52270970
Gallian Musketeer?
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>>52270970
I should note that, obviously, he pays the perpetually willing sort of individual vast sums of money for certain particulars. From these women. Joan's handkerchief, Gizka's discarded orange peel, and other things...
>>52271010
No, no, he certainly shouldn't have anything resembling martial skill. Of course this shouldn't shake his rock-solid confidence in his ability. He's read manuals. Lots of manuals.
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>>52270729
Hips currently have 7/5/5 From the Layering of Mail, Mail, and Quilt. Lower Head is only 4/3/3.

I'd swap the Quilted Coat for a Heavy Quilted Shirt. Same Weight, you don't need the Textile on your knees and shoulders, and it makes your hips 7/5/6 with 9 AVP against non firearm missiles.

Cut the Mail Coat to a Mail Shirt, to lose 1 Weight, You've got Mail Leggings as well so you won't lose any Layer on the Legs. From there get a Mail Camail and a Quilted Coif, same amount of weight, but now your Lower Head is 6/4/5, or, if your GM allows it, a quilted Helm under the Sallet for 6/5/6 on the Lower Head.
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>>52270970
Your mother is stupid, not Zellish Guts.
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>>52271143
Also with the Camail you gain Layer on your Gorget as well.
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>>52271157
Zellish Guts is for memeing newfags who probably weren't even here for Jimmy's birth.
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Fucking faggots, what we really ought to make is a halberdier with a pheasant crest and a big red horse, betraying everyone he meets.
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>>52271274
This is a meme which I do not understand.
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>>52271312
Seriously nigger? It's fucking fucking Lu Bu
Or it could be the Hegemon of Western Chu, both betray lots of people.
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>>52271312
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrigXRb54Hs
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>>52271375
How would I know that. Like that's not particularly well-known information.
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Now that the kikestarter is over, when can we expect to see hints of the magic system? I've been hoping to see those mechanics for a while, now.
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>>52271520
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>>52271520
I want new fags to go and stay go.
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>>52271520
>Lu Bu
>not particularly well-known
Nigga just because you're ignorant doesn't mean everyone else is.
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>>52264876
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>>52271274
>pheasant crest
As I kid, I always thought it was cockroach antenna.
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>>52271952
Been here since 2014 motherfucker
>>52272175
You either know him through translations, in which case you are a pleb, or you know him through video games, in which case you are a turbopleb.
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>>52272296
>2014
>not 2013
Look at this newfag and laugh.
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>>52272296
>Two thousand seventeen
>Didn't read the Romance in its native Mandarin.
Only a patrician gets to call out plebs, boy.
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>>52272665
It is difficult when you do not have a qt Mandarin of your own.
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>>52273135
You have been visited by the Mandarin of Classical Chinese Literature.

All your marks in the Civil Service Exams will be doubled, but only if you post "China will grow larger" in this thread.
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>>52273654
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>>52274247
China will grow larger.
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>>52274247
Civil service is for nerds.
Military service is where it's at.
CHINA WILL GROW LARGER UNTIL IT CONSUMES THE WHOLE WORLD
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>>52274247
China will become a failed state and self-destruct like it always does.
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Anyone have any ideas for stats for a pata?
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>>52275342
Here is the size for comparison.
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>>52275342
>>52275366
I've seen plenty in museums, but how often were they actually used in combat? Patas always struck me as decidely impractical and more suited to being a ceremonial item or oriental curio (hence the popularity with collectors) than for battlefield use.
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>>52275342
+10 Fisting
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>>52275640
I understand why you would think that but most of the weapons from India have that odd feel and they did get used. There is also a large number of patas that are very bland looking making ceremonial use less likely. Even the Muslim eventual started to use them so it seems more likely that even though they might not have been widespread they cant just be written off as a joke weapons.
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>>52275815
Interesting, do you have any good examples of use?

Who wielded Patas and in what battlefield role?
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>>52275975
Its pretty hard to find stuff in English but there are records of it being used in the siege of Gujarat and it being in general use during much of the mughal period. I don't have more time right now but found a number of articles of historical battle records that mention them and will check them tomorrow and post my findings.
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buyers remorse edition
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>>52276242
Only for you, mang. One of the few things I've dropped a large sum of money on and haven't been disappointed by (yet).
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>>52276242
What are you so sad about?
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>>52276366

I could have donated more and gotten a hardcover
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>>52275342
Sidesword stats but make guard 8 and add tight grip to your hearts desire
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>>52276395
Thats a pretty good start I think, thanks.
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>>52276391
Save that money and buy version 2 of the core rules then it comes out.
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>>52275342
Pata: 1H Sword - L - STN: 7(1+c) - TTN: 7(+1p) - DTN: 8(8*) - Tight Grip 2 - 25 sp

*Covers Hand and Forearm

Could also maybe be Heavy Backsword blade with 7(+2c) 8(+1p), and you could have rapier variant.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7niTpIW7dEk
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>>52276395
For the shorter versions, of dagger like length, maybe allow the use of some pugilist maneuvers.
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>>52276739
That'd make sense with Katar as well.


>[Great Swords]hauing also the great crosse, was found out, to the end it should be handled one to one at an equall match, as other weapons, of which I haue intreated. But because one may with it (as a galleon among many gallies) resist many Swordes, or other weapons: Therefore in the warres, it is used to be placed neere unto the Ensigne or Auncient, for the defence thereof, because, being of it selfe hable to contend with manie, it may better sauegard the same. And it is accustomed to be carried in the Citie, aswell by night as by day, when it so chaunceth that a few are constrayned to withstand a great manie.

Should there be a Talent that requires and builds on Flourishing Drills and Requires a length of L or VL so that once FD activates you can parry either more than one opponent or just more than once per round.
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>>52270729
>>52271163
>>52271143
Or instead of taking the Camails, you can take the 1 weight and remove the 1 weight of the Gorget and get a Bevor.
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Can a wise man explain to me what each of the noble social classes are supposed to represent?
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>>52276395
and TN 9
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>>52277422
I don't see how you could feasibly wear both a closed sallet - a sallet with a bevor - and a second bevor
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>>52272296
>Been here since 2014 motherfucker
And yet you're still a newfag, not knowing Lu Bu. Incredible!
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Is there any chance for late pledges. I didnt know it was happening until today and i would like a physical copy of '/tg/ gets shit done'.
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>>52270729
A musket with ball does 11p+BS damage, you have 10 AVP + TOU, so you're pretty safe from bullets.
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>>52278264
I don't mind if it's a foolish man even. Hell, it doesn't even have to be human, I just want some examples for the nobles. Like, I assume that a Minor Noble is like a knight, but what about the rest?
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>>52279089
Minor Noble is a knight or landless noble. Landed Noble is a baron or maybe a count. High Noble is something like a Duke. Royalty is a king, and High Royalty is a big king or maybe an Emperor. They're really loose categories.
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>>52279132
Thanks, I understand they're loose but I needed some sort of footing to have an idea
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>>52278991
You can get a copy made to print from drivethru rpg when it's all done.
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>>52278611
As far as I can tell, closed just means full face protection. If it was the one with an attached Bevor, it would armor the areas protected by the Bevor.
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>SoS funds
>Threads die

Like pottery.
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>>52281444
Nothing else to talk about. Not like anything's getting delivered in the foreseeable future.
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>>52281444
If you're not busy doing something else and are complaining about the ded thred, why not do something positive for the first time in your life and run a fecht for the thread.

If you've got no ideas, here's a prompt.

"You are a soldier fighting in Hulao in the year 943 Ab urbe condita, and three armies have arrived to take the pass and lay siege to your lands. What do?"
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>>52264876
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>tfw I was super excited to fund the DM book, but I know deep in my heart that ill never read it through and end up just pulling every session clumsily out of my ass like always.
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>>52281444
People were too busy arguing about crossbows vs bows in the discord for two and a half hours
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>>52283002

Slings.
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>>52283024
Atlatl
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>>52283228
Yumi
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>>52283002
>discord
A cancer upon these boards, truly.
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>>52283024
>>52283228
>>52283432
The Throwing Anus!
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https://warosu.org/tg/thread/S34251683#p34267065
Ancient lore, discussing the nature of Paganism in Vosca, and Genosian Human Sacrifice
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>>52284052
Are you talking shit about the Chakram? You best not be
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are there pre-statted enemies / npcs? i thought i saw some in the book but now i cant find them for the life of me

if not, does anyone have some tips on making some without going through a full character creation process?
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>>52284496
Human average is 4. Start there, add a few points or remove a few. Then give them an appropriate armor set and a decent amount of CP.
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>>52284496
>>52284606

Acshualllyyyy the Soldier average is 4

Attributes are made with the idea of pre-modern human averages, dudes who did a lot of running, jumping, walking.
You fat basement dwelling types would probably have attributes of 2~3 with the odd 4 or 5

5~8 would be attributes for people who have done intense training towards a specific thing, and the 7~8's being people who are extremely gifted in them.
i.e. The Mountain probably has 6 or 7 STR

Really anything with an attribute higher than 6 is a cartoon character
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>>52284744
damn

we are still in process of creating character sheets, and one of my players is playing the 'party face', he has the famous boon and managed to get 11 CHA. is this viable or did he screw up somehow?

im going to investigate now that you mention 6 is a sort of max.
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>>52284778
Base attributes can't be higher than 8

but Charisma is a compound attribute [wil+per+wit]/2

So it is possible to get 11 base Charisma at character creation, then further advance it w/ helmet crests or beautiful, or famous or whatever.

I'm just saying that the intended power level was 4 is for average active humans who do things.
The game does break down a bit when you can wound through plate at 1BS
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>>52284834
makes sense, thanks for clearing that up
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>>52284778
Not Famous and Beautiful.
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Okay, one of the guys who got a Iconic Visionary here. I have an important question. Which would you rather see, someone with a brace of pistols, or someone with a revolver?
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>>52285192
what ?????????????????????????
excuse me ?????????????????????????????????

is this a question??????????????????????????????????
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>>52285192
While I'd agree that a revolver would probably be better mechanically, a guy with a cool variety of pistols would probably be more visually interesting. We don't want to break tone yo.
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>>52284072
Did Jimmy ever actually give us any detail on pagans and what they believe and what their cultures are? Or on Genosian human sacrifice practices? I don't think either of those things made it onto the wiki.
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>>52285192
Brace of pistols of course. What kind of question is that? Revolvers are filthy burdinadin magic.
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>>52276610
I've never been one to plan a decade ahead of time
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>>52285192
>[X] Brace of pistols is best.
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>>52284250
A fearsome weapon.
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>>52284834
another reason why there might be some confusion is that latax rule say its /2 and the character sheet is /3, so if you made a character following the maths on the character sheet you could never have 11.
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>>52285919
>character sheet

There is no official SoS character sheet.
What sheet are you talking about?
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>>52279197
What the fuck is she doing with her foot?
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>>52286002
Can't you do that?
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>>52286002
Thats a footpussy

you put your penis there
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>>52286197
no
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>>52281741
Would the thread even be interested in a fecht? Last guy seems to have given up, I can only assume due to lack of thread interest.
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>>52285949
I am talking about the unofficial one on the mega
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>>52286384
A good directed fecht that is done quickly, yes.

other guy seems to post every 20~30 minutes and we burn out waiting for shit to happen
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>>52286384
If only I was not about to go play sos with my rl group.
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>>52286410
Let us know how it goes, dude. You're providing valuable beta-testing.
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where can I find someone willing to teach me how to play this thing?
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>>52286740
in the roll20 room
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So, possibly stupid question, but

Dwarven women. Do they have beards?
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>>52286776
That's super cute
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>>52286776
According to the wiki they lack beards, but I move for change on the grounds of that picture being very cute.
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>>52286818
Well, it's not like they need to have beards to have awesome sideburns.
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Jimmy! We want qt bearded dorf girls!
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>>52286868
Do we even have any prominent dwarf women right now?

If the answer is no, that needs to change immediately.
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>>52286886
we don't
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>>52286898
So, how can we make a dwarf woman that's cute but also a warrior, and also prominent in the setting?

I move for a dwarven princess whose father recently passed away and she's doing her very best to lead those dwarves around her forward.
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>>52286910
that would be pretty great
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>>52271143
>Hips currently have 7/5/5 From the Layering of Mail, Mail, and Quilt. Lower Head is only 4/3/3.

Quilted doesn't layer on it's own. Layer only applies when something superior is being used. Mail wouldn't layer twice.

At best I think it'd be 6/5/3. 4+1 AVP from quilted being layered.
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>>52284744
>i.e. The Mountain probably has 6 or 7 STR
The mountain throws greatswords around one handed. He's the one guy in the setting with a minimum of 8.
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>>52286384
The last fecht concluded, and might go on to a second part.
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Is there a song of swords, and, if so, who has done the best cover?
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>>52289004
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FV_IP4mNJCI
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>>52289004
Song of Swords album would be full Metal Gear Rising soundtrack performed by Opaque Industries team
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>>52289032
Fuck. Take all my money. I need that.
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>>52289032
Think of how much we could have raised if that had been the ultimate stretch goal. Galt singing Snake Eater is the bonus track.
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>>52289303
>Galt singing Snake Eater is the bonus track
Followed by Serbia Strong. SoS would reach 60k mark easily.
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>>52271250
>Zells and Grutte Zweihanders are for memeing newfags

Kill yourself. I've been following Song of Swords since 2012. I bet you think newfags are pre-2012 you fag.
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>>52289681
Eh. I'd say 2007 was the real cutoff if you want to go by time, but behavior and knowledge are the real indicators.
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>>52289855
Nah, 2006.
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>>52288061
Superior or equal
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>>52289918
After so many years I'm still a newfag
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>>52289855
>>52289918
The time cutoff is 2008 with Chanology, but being 'new' means less of literally being new and more of not acting like sheer cancer.
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>tfw don't even remember when you started browsing the chan
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>>52290762
Sorry newfag it's 2006. 2007-2008 is when the web became shittier thanks to the rise of smartphones, social media, etc.
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>>52290906
That's why 2008 is the cutoff for being a newfag? You're proving my point. 2007 - 2008 is when the internet started really consolidating and by 2008 it was where we are now, so that's why it's 'newfags'. Plus, 2007 didn't see any real massive influx like Chanology. Personally I can't really see the difference between Newfag and Cancer. Didn't this chart used to have 2011-2012 as "Cancer" and 2012-2014 as Reddit or something?
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>>52290906
Yep... 2007/08 was the beginning of the end of the WWW golden age. Eternal September on a global scale.
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>>52289032
a bunch of nerds with no rhythm or musical skill trying that?
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Question: I'm working on a homebrew that welds SoS style wounds to oldschool D&D style stats and general rules systems.
Two questions: How badly does making the default toughness 0 fuck everything up?
And how many points would you have to roll over a target number on a d20 to equal one bonus success? I was thinging every 2 points (10%) would be a good enough approximation without going mad with dice pool probabilities.
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So im having some issues wrapping my head around schools and proficencies.
I am making a human minor noble as a first charachter. I wanted big armor and polearms ala pic related.
Minor noble gives some nice boons and enough cash to deck myself out nicely. Now the school is where i lose it. I have 9 PCP dedicated to Prof (if this is an error for combat charachters i can tweak it a bit) i took noble school for amrored and i pay 2 for base. I paid 2 for my prinary (polearm) then 1 in 1h sword and grapple (back up). So that is 6 points down and 3 left over. Now as i level this do i need to pay 4 points to level up once each time. Is it split between all 3 so each lvls differently. Or does it all count as 1 proficency and i pay 1 point apiece.
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>>52291536
>How badly does making the default toughness 0 fuck everything up?
Without changing STR or any other rules? Any punch becomes crippling level 4 wound or fatal head explosion.
>And how many points would you have to roll over a target number on a d20 to equal one bonus success?
It doesn't work that way. This system is based around dice pools, single rolls emulate it very badly. TRoS family is one of the proofs that dice pools are superior to d20.
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>>52291613
>I have 9 PCP dedicated to Prof
Use related CP instead. In your case 9PCP buys you 24 CP for Proficiencies and Schools.
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Can someone please give me the best way to tackle the arseload of maneuvers in this game? There are far too many to learn, are there a few that are particularly good for a 2H Sword/Spear user?
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>>52292420
List the ones that come up in the confines of you proficiency.

Run a few fights between mirrored combatants starting with just the basics then the tier 1 and then the tier 2's like your learning a fighting game. As you play you'll see why some manoeuvres exist and what situation you want to reach for them in.
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>>52291613
human's racial bonus reduces each weapon's proficiency cost, so instead of paying 6 you only need to pay 3, after that you level up the whole school and each one of the profs get a +1, but I have only read the beta rules a couple of times so I might be wrong

Can anyone explain me how to do a 2vs1 combat or a big melee with more than 2 guys fighting? does the combat pool refresh at the end of each phase, round, individual combat?
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>>52292607
Alright I'll try that out, thanks
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>>52293291
This works great if you have a friend who's about as clueless as you.
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>>52293048
>Can anyone explain me how to do a 2vs1 combat or a big melee with more than 2 guys fighting? does the combat pool refresh at the end of each phase, round, individual combat?
With the newer Ballad style combat rules, we don't know. Jimmy didn't playtest them, he just copied what he wrote from Ballad and called it a day. So you'll have to wing it.
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>>52288061
If he's wearing two instances of mail over the same area, it would later with itself.
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>>52293048
Do melee combat, two exchanges, at the end of every phase, with all participants. Refresh at the top of the next phase.
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>>52291613
>>52293048
This here, is what's reduced by one thanks to the Human Racial Trait Willing to Learn. Your school at level one costs 2+2+1+1+0+0+0 or 6.

Now you have the following
>Noble School - 1
>>Polearm [Primary]
>>Grappling [Secondary]
>>1H Sword [Secondary]

To raise this school to rank 2, it costs 1 as you may or may not be able to see from my picture and you gain a Novice Talent that is associated with that school.

9PCP in Proficiency gives you 24 points to spend, so you're sitting at 17/24 points spent at this juncture.
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>>52292420
Hopefully Opaque will create lists like I am about to.

Start with the Basics:
Swing, Thrust are your basic attacks
Block, Parry, Void are your basic defenses
That's all you need to play at first.

Add the following for the next layer of complexity: Orientation Moves or Color Moves: Beat, Flee, Closing Void, Dart Out, Total Block

Next layer: Special attacks and defenses: Riposte, Butt-Strike, Pommel Strike, Joint Thrust, Hook, Hew, Break, Disarm offense, Disarm defense, Shield Beat, Shield Bind

Next layer: Simultaneous moves: all the simultaneous moves

Next layer: Niche usage moves & weapon modifications: Steal Initiative, Quickdraw, Halfsword, Murder-Strike

Next layer: Trickey: Feint, Shield Feint, Blind-Toss

Next layer: Subsystems: Unarmed: all unarmed maneuvers. Note they don't make any sense with TZMs; their built-in activation costs came before TZMs were created

Next layer: Subsystems: Hilt Push: Hilt Push stuff

Next layer: Subststems: Grappling: be sure to use the grappling in either the LaTeX version or the October 2015 grappling update. Do not use the one in regular v1.9.9. It's worse.

Next layer: Subsystems: Mounted: all mounted maneuvers

That should cover most maneuvers in the game. If I missed any see where they fit.
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Jimmy says Schools are the #1 thing that are being completely rehauled now that the Kickstarter is over. Everyone is confused by them at first.
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>>52295462
I don't get it, what is reduced by the human trait "Willing to Learn"?
Should I just wait for the new rules before trying to run a very short campaign?
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>>52295674
You want to make a noble school right?
So you pay base cost of 2.
Then 2 per primary proficiency you add
Then 1 per secondary proficiency you add
And you also buy the proficiency core for each single proficiency you add regardless whether primary or secondary, which is what the image in the other anons post shows. As a human you reduce the cost of the proficiency core by one.
So as a non-human you would pay as follows for a noble school with 1 primary and 2 secondary proficiencies:
2 base cost + 2 primary proficiency + 2 * 1 secondary proficiency + 3 * 1 proficiency core = 9 Proficiency Points

as a human you would drop the "3 * 1 proficiency core" cost

Hoped that helped a bit
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>>52290990
You mean the actual bands?

Feast your eyes on this atrocity
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8hDSXdJoAQ
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>>52295970
yup I get it now, thanks
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>>52291613
>9 PCP for Proficiencies
jesus
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>>52271274
I believe you mean DRUNKENLY betraying everyone he meets. And then whining when people call him out over it.
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>>52296114
The acronym still amuses me.
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>>52298767
It's only marginally better than characters having two seperate and yet similarly large amounts of CP.
Why are SoS characters so degenerate, Everybody knows hebephilia is the patrician fetish
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>>52291613
Proficiency is written in the most fucktarded way possible

I hope they change it/streamline it

Already kind of a retarded system in a lot of ways

>Can have a lone 1H Blunt Proficiency w/ its own set of talents
>At the same time have a school with 1H Blunt Proficiency in it and have a bunch of different talents but can't use your other talents
>At the same time can have a 1H Sword Proficiency and then default to 1H Blunt and lose all of your talents
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>khopeshfag writes a doujin
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>>52301500
>isn't "You hooked my cervix with your meat-khopesh!"
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>>52291613
http://paste2.org/089j7MYm

Should have you covered.
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>>52289303
>/sos/ is Outer Heaven
>currently have an Outer Heaven patch on my jacket

spoopy
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>>52300599
You can use Talents even if you don't meet the prerequisites with your current Proficiency, if the Proficiency satisfying the prerequisite is in the same School as your current Proficiency
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Thread, who's your favourite NPC?
Dahaka the Black is Dahaka the Best.
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>>52302936
>>52300599
Oh wait now I see what you mean
Having a lone 1h Blunt along with a School 1h Blunt

Just think of it as fighting in different martial arts styles
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>>52302940
Gets me every time.
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>>52302947
I've thought of this too, the idea of trying to do some fancy flourish rapier-esque nonsense with a flail-

Yet not all talents are things you do with a weapon and are things you could do regardless if you were holding a dagger, sword, axe etc

i.e. juggernaut, Stern, Spartan Sole, Roll with It
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>>52303994
The whole thing is a pretty big weak point. People have trouble with schools even after making a few of them.
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>>52303258
An amazing piece of writing. It loses something for having the lead-up cropped out though.
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>>52271274
But, does his horse have 3x mob?
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>>52303258
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