Age of Sigmar General /aosg/

First for the Kharadron Overlords!

Bow down to King Brokk Grungsson!

>>52212388
Cogfops are a mistake.

>>52212388
They worship Balthazar gelt

>not playing destruction

literally why

>>52212378

Man, apparently getting two releases is most of them. Wow, how hard is the self-projection.

Not really. Black Templar's are blinded by their faith, meanwhile Hallowed Knights will not mind forging alliances with other entities, such as undeath and ironjawz.

Tempest lords are a nobiliary stormhosts, but they also are very down to earth. Astral templars may be closer to Space Wolves but it doesn't come quite close, since they put a different emphasis on the "barbarian" angle.

I mean, if you want to make such a balance with just a line of fluff... be my guest I guess.

>>52212414

I'm pretty sure you're trying to make a point there. But you're a clear example of wrote something yet said nothing.

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>>52212425
They don't get flying steamboats for one.
Well, not yet. Maybe. Goblin skypirates might still become a thing.

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>>52212388
floating cephalopods are objectively the best pet dwarfen sky pirates can have

>>52212452
>Hallowed Knights will not mind forging alliances with other entities
Just like BlackTemplars
>Tempest lords are a nobiliary stormhosts
So as Dark and Blood Angels (also I pretty sure sow mention of DeathCompanies).
>different emphasis on the "barbarian" angle.

Because..?

>>52212547
Ah... so you're that assblasted faggot that goes around making mental gimnastics about everything being supersoldiers, wasn't it? Well, don't know why I wasted my breath, again.

>>52212584
Now watch as he resonds with 'Lolwut' again.
Don't worry about it, ignore him. He won't go away, but maybe a mod will wallop him again for ban-dodging. Not that that will have any effect, either.

>>52212522
>Goblin Sky Pirates

>Well we might have lost to Chaos, but at least we don't have to fight those fucking Goblins ever aga-

What's the best way to play elite armies?
I feel like I'd struggle to play the objectives game as I can just get tarpitted.
However my guys should be able to melt through any enemy units without a worry, so do I just form a few blobs and march them onto objectives?

>>52212734

This is literally why Sudden Death objectives exist.

>>52212751
Alright, I'll check through my handbook. Sorry for the stupid question anon.

There are good rumors Cthulhu Aelves are coming. If you watch the beginning of the Kharadron video look at the art of the ships and the tentacles slowly creeping in. Hasting says it's possible it's them and he says they are supposed to be coming this summer sometime.

So I think we'll have some sky competition.

>>52212522
My headcanon is that the aether-gold is a red herring, and those spheres are actually boilers full of tea.

>>52212808
They run on Nuln Oil and Tea... I want that to be canon too.

>>52212820
Just like Duncan.

Anyone ever faced or ran a grot/goblin army in AoS? It seems like fun but at the same time I was told to avoid the older armies as they will have little to no support.

>>52212522
Fuck goblin sky pirates would be the hypest shit. I don't even give a fuck anymore.

Is there an actual source for that or are is this just wishful thinking?

>>52212794
>hastings

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>>52212794

>>52212840
Not true, Flesh Eater Courts, Sylvaneth, Bonesplitters and Beastclaw Raiders are all old armies and they have full battletomes.

>>52212859
They are mentioned once in the fluff. Might be a thing, might just be wishful thinking.

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Started a Durthu, I can tell this thing is going to take absolutely forever to paint.

>>52212888
What if it's tentacle goblin sky pirates?

>>52212888
Sylvaneth are partially new, though.

>>52212892

They've actually been mentioned thrice, on three different books.

>>52212913
1 out of 4 got some new models as well as keeping the old.

That supports they will be supported, not that they won't.

>>52212840
No, nobody has ever used goblins before, anon. You are literally the first person to think of that.
More seriously, Moonclan are good and offer a shitload of denial as well as very cheap hordes. Lack of a BT is not an issue, really. We might still get one as various other old forces got them as well, and even without we're pretty decent overall.

>>52212897
>going to take absolutely forever
Wecome to Sylvaneth. You'll be here forever, so make yourself comfortable.

>>52212899
Instant chubby

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Which faction would fit my requirements best?
- Fairly cheap
- Good in 1000pts games
- Not as "swarmy" as Skavens but I don't mind to play with plenty of models - just don't want to run 50+ of them
I like all factions aesthetic and fluff-wise so it's all about cash and model count

>>52212999
You can probably find some high elf models from that boxed set that came out a while ago. It was dirt cheap and you can probably find the elf half of the set on e-bay if you dig around a bit for very cheap.

>>52212955

It wasn't said that no one else ever has used grots/goblins, it was just asked if anyone here had used them or played them in AoS. If I thought no one had ever played them I wouldn't ask others about their experience playing with/against them.

>>52212999

There's not a huge amount of armies that aren't good in 1k.

If your main concern is price, Ogres are always the cheapest.

>>52212888
>Flesh Eater Courts
One of the VampCunts core troops and fairly uncommon Strigoi line retooled to be cursed and deranged !Bretonnians.
>Sylvaneth
Basically a new line.
>Bonesplitters and Beastclaw Raiders
Fair point. But then you've also got to add in...
>Fyreslayers and Kharadron Balloonmen
Which are pretty much completely unlike anything resembling their old faction.

>>52212913
Not to disbelieve you, but can you say what books?

I'd like to read more about flying gobbos.

Why do I see people online talking about using a hurricanum to buff thier order armies(high elves and shit) when it clearly states on the battletome it only effects freepeople units? Was it changed or is everyone but me retarded?

>>52212882
Hastings DID correctly predict the timing of the Kharadron release. I don't see why not to trust him on this one.

>>52212948

I'm not disagreeing with you, just saying that Sylvaneth ain't an entirely "old" army. Neither is Ironjawz. I think that AoS will do a three-pronged pattern:

1) Do new factions (SCE, KO, KBB)

2) Update and re-skin factions (FEC, BCR, BS)

3) Take a concept of a sub-faction and expand up ont (IJ. Sylvaneth, DoT)

Time, of course, will tell us which approach they'll favour.

>>52213122
I checked it yesterday and just a second ago as I wanted to start a free people's army.
"you can add 1 to the hit rolls of any ORDER units" not free people, order. That's from the most recent website PDF.

Maybe the scroll is outdated on your country's webstore? or you have an old warscroll saved? or if it's in the physical order book it's probably outdated honestly.

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Guys, how many of you wouldn't mind be smitted by her hammer?

>>52213187
Just downloaded it and it still says freepeople my dude

>>52213240
Stormcast are shitu, troll hag a best waifu.

>>52213122
>>52213187
Not either of you -- however, second anon is right and it's all Order units -- but I kinda love and kinda hate the Hurricanum. Plus, my theoretical Freeguild are definitely not Chaos renegades. No, no, not at all. But if one were to place the Hurricanum beside the Chaos Warshrine, would the sizes be about the same for the same of kitbashing?

...also, wait, shit, that means the Hurricanum works on cannons, too.

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>>52213259
Says order for me. Strange. If you want this version use the UK webstore and print it out, that way you can run it for all of order instead of just free peoples. I agree with you that it should just be free peoples though, doesn't make sense that lizardmen get buffed by a bunch of empire wizards but those are the rules I've got.

Snipped the date too, to prove I'm not fucking with you.

>>52213304

So your waifu is a celestial hurricanum? I'm pretty sure you've misquoted.

>>52213240
Well, ain't she a cutie.

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>>52213240
heroes hit evil guys with hammers to make them more in line with justice
things hit by a hammer get flattened
flat is justice

>>52213338
Wut? This post has nothing to do with my waifu. The pic is of the hurricanum rules and the post doesn't even include the word waifu? Did you reply to the wrong post anon or is my 4chan fucking up?

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>>52213304

Making Snorecast vs Boretide the posterboy conflict for AoS is what almost killed the game

>>52213382
Dude, you're quoting a post speaking about a hag-troll being the best waifu. I was just kidding about that fact.

>>52213394
Fucking bizarre, well at least you can use the ORDER buff warscroll if you want to cheese I guess.

>>52213402
They are normie bait mary sues

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>>52213394
Here, just re-downloaded it. Germany, if that helps any.

>>52213413
Fuck, I'm tired anon lmao. Replied to my old post by mistake. Sorry for my autism.

>>52213435
Mine was just downloaded too though
Why would mine be different lol
Maybe the link on the mobil site is fucked?
Only thing I can think of

>>52213394
>>52213435
>Freepeople instead of Order
>Order instead of Collegiate Arcane
What the shit is going on here?

>>52212999

Ogres, Ironjawz, or monster heavy Seraphon.

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>>52213259
>troll hag
>best waifu
>No pic

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So I cracked open the Seraphon battletome, and what do I see on one of the first pages, but this.

Post more AoS reaction faces.

>>52213473
>>52213459
>>52213435
Direct link to the GW site:
https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/PDF/AoS_Warscrolls/aos-warscroll-celestial-hurricanum-en.pdf
...says "Order".

Is the AoS floating dimensions thing all a setup to merge 40k and AoS, ala Warmahordes? The answer is yes.

>>52213565
alright I found whats happening
I was using the entry in the empire pdf which I guess must be out of date? The direct hurricanum one is showing order for me too.

>>52213240
Well, It's not looking like the other shitty animu pics - I would ask for more

>>52213587
Given the rumors seem to indicate a major change to 40k rules in the next edition while they are currently undergoing the 40k equivalent of the End Times? I really, really would not be surprised.

I doubt you'll see the settings merge like I think you're implying, but I strongly suspect the core rules will be nearly identical. Shit, they can even use the Khagamaga Ollymadoos as a test for handling transport vehicles and flying vehicles at the same time.

>>52213602
Those are the old ones, yes. Not per se out of date as you could use either, but not the newest one.
I'd generally recommend using the stuff from the old compendium only when you have to.

>>52213641
>Khagamaga Ollymadoos

Anon, come on.

TELL ME ABOUT YOUR DUDES

>>52213692
Sorry.
>Kharadona Ollymadoos

>>52213725
One of them is literally an english word, Anon.

How are you fucking up the word Overlord?

Come on, now!

And it's Kharadron, it's not difficult or overly strange for a fantasy name. You can do this!

>>52213718
They died ages ago and were replaced by guys with misspelled versions of their names.

DARK ELVES WHEN!?
REEEEEEEEE
And yes I realize they will be called aelven shadow exiles or something, I dont give a shit
I WANT MY EVIL FLAVORED ELVES

>>52213748
Sorry.
>Khali Mah Ombomadons

>>52213718
Well you know, if you could point me towards existing beastmen fluff and lore and fucking content, I would.

I have nothing to work with, I don't know if they're exactly the same as the old world or if they're different.

Someone give me something, here.

What books are they in, if anything?

I don't want to drop money on the Chaos alliance book just for one small part of it.

That name of Khagamaga Ollymadoos has made me think of a possible concept on how to introduce "Bretonnia" again.

The Kingdom of Sunthaamar.

"Honor is all"
"Chivalry is all"

This words are spoken as a spiel amongst the loyal knightly circles of the Sunthaamarii. These noble beasthunters strive for martial purity and perfection as they ride their exotique beasts.

These words hail from the Ur-Paladin. Jerrod the World-Stryder, He who strode the last charge of the World-That-Was and broke its last lance against the fell forces of chaos.

Basic Units: demi-gryph knights an footmen.

"Scouting"/"Pariah" unit: the Rough Riders, units riding gore-gruntas (an unknightly steed) and wielding axes and bows (unknightly weapons)

"Fast attack units" a unit riding gryph-chargers "Wingless-Ussarans" and a unit riding some bird-like creature "Ikarea-Lancers"

Heavy chargers, have them ride dracoths or some very mean critter. "Tiamathia Chargers.

Heroes: lady doing magic (self-explanatory) Paladin riding a fast steed and another riding a big critter.

Unique Hero: [Insert Cool Name], King of Sunthaamari. Rides one of the dragons that the bonesplitters are hunting in their battletome, wields Jerrod's weapon.

>>52213803
OH MY GOD ANON

It's simple English!

Kha ra dron Over lords

I believe in you, you can do it. It's not that hard!

>>52213820

Disciples of tzeentch has beastmen, you know?

IIRC mortarch of Night or Lord of Undeath features them.

>>52213834
King Olly Mandoos.

>>52213843
Actually its pronounced robo-dwarves

>>52213802
>aelven shadow exiles
>aelven siadow aexiles
fix'd

>>52213858
They aren't Brayherds or Warherds, they're a different faction to mine.

But it's a start, I guess.

And thanks for the other two.

>>52213843
>Kha ra dron Over lords

It's also fucking despective from this dude.

Kharadron is literally a word that existed in old world lexicon so he's basically mocking WHFB too.

>>52213843
Sorry.
>Cogfop Drohnenon Omnisah Laddy-Lickers

>>52213915
What did it mean, because google isn't giving me anything.

>>52213860
>>52213942

Wow this must be harder than I imagined, there's two of you flunking Fantasy Names 101 now!

Okay, let's go back to basics. Repeat after me!

Duardin!

>>52213915
>http://whfb.lexicanum.com/wiki/Khazalid_lexicon
Huh. Interesting. I didn't realize there was a non-existent word for nothing. Khazalid is pretty meta.

>>52213945
>>52213987
I wonder if the fuckers actually made a typo in naming the army. Because Dron does translate as Thunder, but Khara is absolute gibberish. Maybe Karakdron for Mountain Thunder? Or Khazdron for Clanhall Thunder?

>>52213965
>Dorf-din

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>>52214069

>>52213965
>Retarded
>Sloppy
>Chapterhouse
I'm trilingual, so I gave it three tries.

>>52214044

Khara was ship.

>>52214101
See >>52214080

>>52214103
Thundership? Not bad.

>>52214103
Source? When even the autistic lexicon doesn't have it, I'd like some evidence.

>>52214080
>Dorfffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff-din

>>52214213
different anon here.

Lexicanum is a 40k site mainly, their coverage of fantasy is generally dreadful, don't take it as gosepel

>>52214150
See >>52214080

>>52213718
My freeguild is devoted to killing stormcast eternals as they see them as abberant mutants and an affront to sigmar

>>52213718

A full jungle tribe in the realm of life, made up of savage orcs, spider-riding goblins, and enslaved jungle beasts.

They worship a particularly massive Arachnarok Spider as an avatar of Gorkamorka.

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>>52214276
>My freeguild is devoted to killing stormcast eternals as they see them as abberant mutants and an affront to sigmar

>affront to sigmar

Ive recently moved to an area with an official GW store, Ive never been in one before. If I go in there with an army that uses a few alternate models and conversions because I like them better, will they throw an autistic tantrum?

>>52214328
Are they from GW/FW kits? Then no.
Are they not from GW/FW kits? Then it depends on the manager, most I've met are pretty swell, but usually prefer that kind of conversions to be discreet.

>>52214328
Are they GW made bits?

If yes, then you're fine.

If no, then no.

>>52213843
Kalamata Olivelords?

Skaven faction of nothing but Moulder flesh abominations when?

>>52214422
Sounds like they should pay debts.

>>52214328

Kinda depends on your store manager. I use a lot of kitbashed TK at my local store with non-gw bits, but enough of the models are mixed with plenty of GW bits that the manager is cool with it. There is only one model he doesn't let me play with. He's a pretty cool dude. If you are trying to bring in something like whole Mantic units that will not fly.

>>52214438
Presumably after the important skaven factions people actually give a shit about, i.e. Skyre, Pestilens and Verminous, are done. Even even then Eshin will probably come before Moulder.

>>52214468
But flesh abominations sound like something they would put out there, plenty of opporitunity for big expensive kits

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>people complain about "naked dwarfs look stupid" when fyreslayers come out
>GW responds with dwarfs that show no flesh whatsoever
Kek.

So we're getting the sky-dwarves in april, How much time after that till our next release do we think? Can we expect a few months of Sigmar stuff or are we just getting the steam-dorfs and then several months of nothing.

When is 8th ed 40k rumoured to drop? Cuz I don't imagine we'll be getting much while thats going on.

>>52212522
>http://www.tga.community/forums/topic/217-the-rumour-thread/

Ironjawz are described as having Derigibles to go fight flying assholes in hand to hand.

>>52214507
June or July for 8th.

>>52214507
Theres going to be more stuff this summer
GW have spots booked at like every wargaming convention/tradeshow this year
Should be interesting

>>52214507
8th is supposedly dropping in late summer or early autumn, after (or possibly as part of) another campaign.
Rumor has said Steampunk dwarves, then something 40k, then Elves and/or Slaanesh, then more 40k.

>>52214573
Praise Rountree.

>>52214599
Our mighty Overlord.

You know, would be nice to see an interview of that bloke at warhammer tv. Wonder what kind of weed he smokes to make this kind of GLORIOUS shit.

>>52214735
He inhales the fumes of the molding process.

Holy fuck, since fucking when did Hastings turn into such a slobbering fanboy? Still curious to see how will his Kharadron Overlord armada turn out.

>>52214468
Pestilens is done, and I don't think they will revisit Verminus for the same reason they didn't revisit vanilla dwarfs. So it's Skryre and possibly Moulder in the future, Eshin will probably never become an army.

>>52214276
> Be freeguild
> Sees stormcasts, literal angels of their god
> Kills the angels, and denounces their god
> Gets crushed
> GW sidelines freeguild for eternity

It's a win actually.

>>52215294
yeah, without any human lives on the line then it can be megamonster A vs Megamonster B with absolutely zero emotional investment or tension. im sure thatll work out well.

Golly, what a productive thread.

>>52215733
thanks for contributing

Will Fyreslayers get squatted?

The Warscroll says 'Order'. The Empire Warscroll Compendium says "Free People'.

The Hurricanum, that is.

>>52216017
Newer warscroll is correct.

>>52216006
I hope yes.

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How's this look at 1750, and what would you do to bump it up to 2000? I'm trying to give my Stormcast a bit of a rest. My regular opponents are a Beastclaw Raiders player, a Dispossessed player, and a Seraphon player.

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>>52213718
They're the soldiers of an oligarchy rising out of the fiery hellscape of Aqshy, the sprawling metropolis built around and over a volcanic furnace that is rumored to have been built by Grungni himself. Masters of blackpowder and engineering, their artificial defenses and the city's natural defenses kept the waves of Chaos at bay though the city's allegiance to Sigmar waned in his absence and slowly theologians began to give praise instead to artifice itself. Their patron was simply a mask for Chaos, however, as the city continued to produce instruments of war and carnage. Dark sorcery, crazed brilliance, and warpfire forges gave a horrific semblance of life to daemon-engines down in the searing foundries.

tl;dr: Chaos Renegades + Freeguild, inspired entirely by pic related

Army itself is mostly hypothetical, though I do now have pretty much the entire thing sourced other than some conversion work that I'll probably have to simply work out by getting both kits and seeing how to smash it together. Those two being fusing a Maulerfiend/Forgefiend with a Steam Tank. Rest of the line is Perry Miniatures Revolutionary War Brits, though with Outriders/Pistoliers mounted on Chaos Marauder horses and Demigryphs on Chaos Knight horses. Oh, and Guard as linemen with swords and probably pavises though I might go with Chaos Warrior or Marauder shields.

>>52216227
>free guilds
>highborn
kys

>>52213718
A bunch of aelves that were busy out fighting Chaos when Tyrion closed off his realm. They've come to believe it's their duty to uphold his teachings and live their lives according to his writ, so that when he returns he shall not find them wanting.

The Loremaster of Hoeth is something of an old rabbi type, and the oldest of the wandering tribe. It's said that he's old enough to have met the God himself, and cunning enough to once have argued the minutae of law with him and won.

The battleline are spearmen and reavers, because of course they are. Ofcasionally I'll throw in some Freeguild Archers because I want to use my elven archers and they're also battleline. They're the poor wandering ones, whose life has been dedicated to upholding his laws, one of which is to fight chaos wherever it may be found.

My more elite troops are Dragon-Blades and Phoenix Guard. Those who prove themselves to be capable warriors can go under tutelage of those who already are, to learn ever more absurd and constraining rules, but in return also learn ancient fighting styles from long ago.

The Dragonlord is the clan's leader, as much so as the rabbi is. The Dragon also walked alongside the God, Tyrion, and he chooses his riders for their grace, dignity, and willingness to open doors and other things requiring thumbs.

The final piece of the clan is the holy artifact they're guarding. Again I'm borrowing from the Human model line for elves, but there's a single piece that says that they know Tyrion will return for them. A gift from the God of Light that emits holy radiance that punishes the wicked and unjust. The physical embodiment of their promise to be found again, should they stay faithful. The Luminark of the Covenant.

>>52216487
Make High Elf Archers battleline and I'll stop taking the human variant. I'm using the elf models, for what it's worth.

>>52216501
>and I'll stop taking the human variant.
So what still
>playing highborn
It's like playing exodite eldar.

>>52216572
Oh, I thought that was all one complaint.

The Highborn are really just what I have that aren't Stormcast, and like I said, I want to give those a break.

>>52216590
Then start a new arny, instead of using old thrash.

>>52216624
N'aah.

>>52216629
Pleb

>>52213134
>predict the timing of the Kharadron release

Everyone know stuntie is coming, but no one know the balloon troopers. Seriously, u consider that vague rumor accurate?!

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This is the only thing not labeled in the Flesh Eater Courts map. Tomb Kings?

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>tfw Aos' norse/greek mythology feel is starting to grow on me abit
>tfw don't really wanna get into it yet though cause don't know what sorta new things they'll add to it.
Is there any things they mentioned in lore that might become an army or is it completely in the dark for new things?

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finally got around to updated it

>>52217123
Shadow Elves, Goblin Sky Pirates to fight the Dwarf Sky Pirates, Light Elves, Cthulhu/Kraken Elves.

>>52217047
>Tomb Kings?
Nope
>it's literally building from HoMMV on the middle
>>52217123
I don't want to starts anither shutfest, but holy shit
>AoS
>mythology
Are you amerifat anon?

>>52217165
has a mythology feel to it to me. no need to get pissy about it anon.
>>52217155
might have to wait for elves and see how they are like.

>>52217191
Rumour says we'll see some Elves next week at Adepticon.

>>52217191
>has a mythology feel to it to me
So, american?

>>52217047
christ alive is this a real map they put out?

How embarrassing

>>52217298
Dude relax this map is pretty irrelevant.

>>52217298
What's even worse? It's one of the better ones.

>>52217047
why do all age of sigmar maps look like something from the front of a child's fantasy novel

>>52217242
nope. Want to explain why you don't think it is anyway like some sort of mythology or are you going to continue acting like a passive aggressive bitch?
>>52217239
oh cool thanks.

>>52217047

Oh my god are you brian damaged?

That just looks like a generic "City of the Damned" full of spooky spirits.

Look at the bottom left corner and there's actually some obsidian obelisks in a desert which could be tomb kings.

>>52217354
anon check top left corner

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>>52217123
I get the mythology feel. The best way I can describe AoS is it's a mythic fantasy, or high fantasy. A fantasy where the gods have direct dealings and intervenings with mortals. The stuff of ancient greek and roman or norse myths. Therefore magic and other godly powers are common. Great wars are fought using avatars, relics, and great powers.

This is of course different to the low fantasy, or sword and sorcery, which is what old world warhammer fantasy was.

But yeah there are plenty of hints spread throughout all the books so far that may point to future armies or releases. The best thing for looking for this stuff, is go to any AoS sourcebook, and find the pages with a bunch of individual text boxes scattered over art that appears to be linking them together. These are little independent story seeds and teasers for things. It is there (i forgot which book) we got the hint of goblin sky pirates (again, it's not confirming anything in particular), and I also remember seeing somewhere about duardin cloud cities, which is likely teasing the Kharadron Overlords. Lately I have been rather interested in any that links to the great Lantic Empires, which were prosperous human kingdoms during the Age of Myth, before chaos nearly wiped out any form of human civilizations. There are other examples I'm sure, but that would be the best place to look out for them.

>>52217346
>Want to explain why you don't think it is anyway like some sort of mythology
Becuase it's more like Marvel "Norse mythology" than actual mythology.

>>52217382
So you're going to nitpick at my statement. Never said It was exactly like norse/greek mythology, I said it gave off a kind of mythology feel.
>>52217372
Cool stuff anon thank you.

>>52217421
>I said it gave off a kind of mythology feel.
And that's straight opposite to AoS super-hero setting (come on the idea of humans living outside of Midgard and fucking steampunk fedora"s manlets is already kills all Myths-like feels)

>>52217345
It doesn't. Those are normally hand-drawn, have some artistry to them. These just look like bad Inkarnate maps. It's why the homebrew ones look so decent compared to them.

>>52217474
Don't know why this upsets you so much. Other anons were saying it was like mythic fantasy and what not. It's got multiple realms kinda like norse stuff and has gods directly fighting and interacting with mortals and stuff which gave off a sort of mythic feeling to me.

>>52217569
I think it's the shitposter. Ignore him.

>>52217569
You're absolutely right. He's just of the opinion of something else.

>>52217569
>Other anons were saying it was like mythic fantasy
So what? How it makes them right?
>has gods directly fighting and interacting with mortals
Not a mythic fantasy exclusive.
Unlike myths AoS have no signs of folklore in writting, coherent aesthetics much closer to comics magitech (Thor as most popular example, or Warcraft, or Darksiders) the same with small unifided snti-Chaos pantheon of incarnates (who doesnt looks like actual gods, thanks to GW writting quality) without neutral forces.

>>52217242
>>52217165
>implying being American is bad
t. buttmad Euro

When is Kharadron supposed to come out?

>>52217569
>Don't know why this upsets you so much
Not upset, just see wrong using of "mythological fantasy" and trying to discuss it.
>>52217708
>>implying being American is bad
Where I've said this? You guys just have no clue what myths are (that's why you made your superheroes).

>>52217708
April.

Anyone here name their army troops? I will be painting and assembling a fuckton of skaven soon and I'm going to put their names on the sides of all the bases. Terribly cheesy things to make my friends cringe.

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>>52217737
I'm a leaf, we've read in our schools the illiad, the Odyssey, Norse mythology, and Beowulf. Outside of school I got into and still into history and naturally have read things about different sorts of myths. Settle down with the high horse you got there anon.

>>52217809
>I'm a leaf,
Well so the same as americans.

>>52217826
this is why americans get annoyed with your shit akmed

>>52217840
I am not europoor

>>52217809
>we've read in our schools the illiad, the Odyssey, Norse mythology, and Beowulf. Outside of school I got into and still into history and naturally have read things about different sorts of myths.
So what? AoS reflects popular massculture much nore than actual myths.

>>52214729
Kek

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>>52217882

>>52217953
And what this image supposed to mean or prove?

>>52212999
Stormcast.

>>52213255
Borrow someone's Order Grand Alliance book, it's Order in there.

>>52213718
Very stupid and clumsy, but since HE doesn't fit any other faction, so Ulthuan remnants (aka
Twilight phoenixes)
Ten ships, who left Ulthuan after ET:Khaine, durring destruction of Old World was caught by
Hysh when Malekith lost it and were driven into unknown lands (fulfilling the last joke of
Loec).
They returned in MR century before the end of Age of Chaos, with "space" dragonships and
large knowledges about Warp and daemons.
Saved one of the last aelves kingdom outside Azyr and helped refugees to establish new
one on the archipelago in crossrealm ocean between Realms of Light and Life.
In new kingdom they took role of teachers and guardians.
In the rest Mortal Realms they actively seeks any kind of knowledge especially about gods
(like "how prevernt aelves souls from going to Nagash after their deaths").
Small part of them deployed in Realm of Shadows where they using captured Slann's ship
as research lab.
There is also few details, but I suck in fanfiction.

>>52216341
Also, lul. Just doing the math. Using British Legion cavalry mounted on Chaos Knight horses along with some Marauder shields ends up giving me a unit of six Daemonsteed Knights for $38.5 instead of $109 for the chickens. That, combined with the fact that I can get my entire State Troop Detachment inside of one British Brigade deal and a bitz purchase of Marauder shields for $78, has me very happy. My Outriders will end up being $3-4 more expensive until I hit 15 total, when it reverses and is $5 cheaper. Can't argue with those prices making playing Chaos-aligned Redcoats a comically cheap purchase.

Which will be handy, since while my Cannons will be $14 cheaper than the dorf-crewed one, the still theoretical fusion of a Steam Tank and a Maulerfiend/Forgefiend kit will be a bit pricy and probably pretty involved.

When you pile in you can move up to 3" but it has to be toward the nearest enemy model
I've watched battle reports where the players take this to mean you can take a model already in base-to-base contact with an enemy and circle around them, ending in base-to-base contact on the opposite side. This allows models from the rear of their units to move up closer and contribute.
Is this legit, or is it some powergaming trick?

>>52219616
The same thing happens in 40k. RAW its wrong but it would be baffling to do it how it says

>>52219616
>already in base-to-base contact with an enemy and circle around them

No, u can't and faq'ed already.

However, u can place your model 2mm away from enemy model, then circle around. Sound OP? No, any smart player will pile in and prevent u to dance around.

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>>52220014
>u

Not an AoS player (or even a Fantasy player these days) but the Goblin Sky Pirates/Corp idea is pretty fun.

Pretty much just thinking of Doom Diver Catapults but scaled up. Or perhaps just getting a Giant to throw a light weight glider like a paper aeroplane.

These could have regular sized catapults for slightly longer range boarding actions.

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>>52220014

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Oh wow, your shooters can fire ranged weapons even when your shooters are in melee

>>52220277
Hey welcome to 2015!

>>52220277
Yes. Yes they can.

>>52220319
Thanks, I just got here.

>>52217047
Tomb who?

What do you guys think of this Bloodbound/StD list? Thinking of going to participate a local minitournament with it. After couple of test runs with KBB I found out that slow melee lists are.. just bad. So I thought this negates most the problems KBB has.

I know that this list is very charge heavy. Main tactic is trying to get Skulltake formation to middle of the board to contest objetives and Brass stampede going either flank with Knights+valkia the other.


Allegiance: Chaos

Leaders
Lord Of Khorne On Juggernaut (140)
- General
- Trait: Lord of War
- Artefact: Chaos Runeblade
Bloodstoker (80)
- Artefact: Crown of Conquest
Valkia The Bloody (120)
Skullgrinder (80)
- Artefact: Chaos Runeblade

Battleline
3 x Mighty Skullcrushers (160)
- Glaives
3 x Mighty Skullcrushers (160)
- Glaives
3 x Mighty Skullcrushers (160)
- Axes
5 x Chaos Knights (200)
- Chaos Glaives
- Mark of Chaos: Khorne
5 x Chaos Knights (200)
- Chaos Glaives
- Mark of Chaos: Khorne

Units
3 x Khorgoraths (240)
5 x Skullreapers (140)
- Daemonblades
- 1x Soultearer
5 x Skullreapers (140)
- Goreslick Blades
- 1x Spinecleaver

Battalions
Skulltake (100)
Brass Stampede (80)

Total: 2000/2000

Is this list still shit or not?

>>52220468
Tomb cucks

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>>52216341
Also, looking at the scale of things.... While the Maulerfiend was always going to be comically too large and just cannibalized for parts, I see that the Steam Tank and the Juggernaut are both given the same round base size. I'd never actually seen what a riderless other than the Herald of Khorne model, but now I think that back would be perfect for some kitbashing on mounted weaponry from the Daemon Engine kit. Do you guys think that it might work and look like a properly horrifying fusion of machine and Daemon to fill the role of a Daemon Engine Steam Tank equivalent?

why are all khorne animals so cute

>>52212999
tzaangors are literally 2 boxes of regular birdmen, 2 boxes of guys on dics, shaman and ogroid. 1000 pkt including batalion.

>>52212522
When?

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OI LADS

I FOUND LEAKS

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>>52221079

>>52221079
Why does GW put the better schemes in the book and use the worst looking one for promos?

>>52213134
Even a broken clock is correct twice a day. Ohh and what this >>52216879 Anon said.

Stupid question, where in the rules is the double turn thing? I can't find it

>>52221114
it's the same scheme

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>>52221240

>>52221226
ok, so the aether-gold is found gaseous naturally and they have to look for it

I wonder if its currents are as persistent as a mineral vein or fickle like the winds of magic of old

>>52221214
>daredevil skyniggers
I had to do a double take

>>52221096
>orkanaut company

>>52221249

Where'd you go anon?

>>52221582
That's all I've got.

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>>52221079
>barak-varr
>barak-nar
I see what they did there.

People are speculating that GW is doing an 'aetherpunk'(fuck all these *-punk bullshit) faction because wizards just released Kaladesh...

Even though we already know that prep for new miniatures starts months or even years in advance (a designer once noted it takes about 2 years from concept to release)

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>>52213555

>>52213889
They're basically marauding tribes of creatures that just show up and do the bidding of chaos. They really haven't changed very much and regularly crop up in lore regarding ghyran like the wardens of alarielle book.

>>52215644
>He doesn't know stormcast are just especially buff dudes with anxieties and dreads.

Fuck off back to your containment thread with the rest of the toxic filth GW killed your game to make go away.

>>52217967
To remind you what you are to every other person on earth.

Enjoy the gut ready to birth a 18pound meatbread and the government funded cremation, though.

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>>52213555
This is from a thread 2 months ago

>>52221619
barak means port, doesn't it?

>>52221624
the same designer also said that other things take a few months

but I find unlikely these dwarfa were a reaction to magic the gathering of all things

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>>52217372
So do Freeguild do anything but die?

>>52221831
Who the fuck do you think holds territory?

Who do you thinks makes sure Chaos doesn't just take back what Order takes?

Freeguilders.

>>52221831
They act as comparison to make the stormcast seem bigger, better and stronger in everything

>>52221624
What is Kaladesh?
t. typical Warhammer player

>>52221820
Yeah we don't have an exact pipeline for the whole process but these constant assumptions that everything in gaming is designed around microtrends is preposterous. Prep on these guys started before Kaladesh was announced for sure.

>>52221831
They are the balls of steel regular joes to constrast with the (super) heroic Stormcasts. Different shades for different people, just how the imperial guard works in 40k. But since we have this conversation in almost every thread, I'm pretty sure this is bait.

>>52221883

>Comparing glorious free-guilds with inferior imperial guard.

Bitch, Free-guild don't need to have their asses hauled by their god-king's chosen warriors.

>>52221624
People also say that they began as new Squats that were transferred over to AoS halfway through the development, and, frankly, I find even this much easier to believe than that Kaladesh bullshit, particularly since the first rumour engine pics of them cropped up before Kaladesh was as much as announced.
Also what >>52221873 said: miniature gamers don't give a shit about MtG

>>52220426
Spoilers got next year: UK leaves the EU, cubs win the World Series, Donald trump beats Hillary and becomes the president

>>52221845
I don't know, who needs the Stormcast to save their asses?

>>52221892
That's all they do.

4 seperate releases for the steam dorfs in April, so the whole month is them.

>>52222020
You again? Get lost faggot, you didn't have enough with spamming 100 posts in a single thread?

anyone got an idea how i can get all those units that the wanderers have rules for but that are not actually sold by gw?

>>52222314
Ebay, unfortunately. Or, if you're talking about waywatchers, a lot of people just converted them from glade guard even back in the days of WHFB.

>>52222314
Recasters, Try Z.

>>52221582
He's just reposting stuff from the community site or war of sigmar

another question :) when i look at the battlescroll for the vampirelord it says that some of them fly and others have a horse, but it doesnt say what those upgrades cost. are there costs? cause if not i dont see why you would take the lords on foot

>>52222445

I don't know, do you want your vampire lord to be targetted by gunlines, yet go faster, or do you want your vampire lord to use its minions as a protective screen? That's the cost, it depends on your strategy.

>>52221096
Now I can't get the idea of a human hitching a ride on one of their ships and going on an adventure to Sigmar only knows where called 'Jason and the Arkanauts'.

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>>52222574

>>52221278
Aesther Gold is the essence of Balthazar Gelt, which is why they have fantastic Alchemy properties

>>52222700
Or is there actually any source on this, or is it one of those things that gets repeated enough that people think it's canon?

>>52222700
So it's basically Old Spice?

>>52222719
>Balthazar became the Incarnation of Chamon during the end times
>winds of magic form the realms and all their properties
>Chamon is an alchemists dream of gold and rivers of mercury with technological advancement
>Duardin obtain "aether gold" and suddenly they become even smarter tech alchimests

Literally Gelt Gold

>>52222746
So "no" then. Just conjecture.

>>52222746
What would happen if the Skaven got a hold of the stuff? Localised Armageddon?

>>52217138
thanks, that's nice.
you're doing sigmar's work.

>>52221214
Wait, I was only kidding when I posted about the Akanaut company deploying from the Ironclad.

I WAS ONLY KIDDING.

I don't mind if it is only for deployment and not a full on transport though, I feel it adds more flavour to the game

>>52222772
Snort it.

For some reason the Skaven have a burning craving for Ur-Gold. Whenever they find it, they eat it. This aether gold would be like cocaine for them.

>>52222995
source on that, as far as I know Skaven are just obsessed with Warpstone

>>52223065
Fyreslayer Battletome.

Ironjawz dirigibles when?

Seems to be a lack of Blightking body bitz on bitz sites. With 5 spare bodies, you can make another 5 whole blightkings with the spares in the box

which army has the best fucking ass?

>>52222770
It's a pretty damn fucking good conjecture, considering that it mirrors the situation with Grimnir.

>>52223330
Sylvaneth. Alarielle is a huge cluster of fetishes.

>>52223241
Yeah but everyone and their mother has thought of that, hence the lack of bits.

>>52222969
I don't mind if they do become transports. It would be a good mechanic for the dwarves to get their things in range or around the map, since their move is slow low. As long as Ironclads are appropriately costed then it's fine.

It could be a good risk/reward thing too. Do you keep your men in the ship to try make the objective, but risk being shot down and a good chunk of your unit dying? Or do you disembark now and use your Ironclad to distract and harass the enemy, but get places slower?

>>52223435
>It's a pretty damn fucking good conjecture

No it's not.
We've not heard about Gelt at all in AoS.

Whats a good carry case to get?

>>52223807
The GW ones are pretty good.

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Stat me /aosg/

>>52224081
>4" move, 6 wounds, Bravery 9, 3+ Save
>Deckcleaner has a 12" range, 5 attacks, 3+ to hit, 3+ to wound, -2 Rend, 1 Damage
>If within 3" of an enemy unit, can use his gun on that enemy unit in the combat phase, as if it was a melee weapon
>"My Babies!": If an Arkanaut is destroyed within line of sight, the hero gains +1 to hit against the enemy unit that last attacked it for the rest of the game.
>Command Ability - Fleetmaster. Select one Arkanaut within 18". That Arkanaut may move twice in the next movement phase.
>200 points

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JUST

>>52224199
I hurt myself today

>>52224199
Chapter tactics are a thing, just paint a "successor" port and call it a day, sheesh

>>52224081
M'lady/10

>>52212522
>I don't want to play fantasy! It's all elves and other bullshi-
I want to play dwarven steampunk sky pirates with top hats and mustache guns riding dirigibles.

What is this game like? I mean if you had to summarize it mechanically briefly? I get the story, eff that I want to plunder with dorfs.

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>>52224199
Is this any different to pic related, specific bonuses for painting your stormcasts like hallowed knights/hammers of sigmar/celestial vindicators/etc.?

>>52217138
The door thing, first column third down, is probably a piece to one of the Overlords dirigibles .

>>52224199
>Da Red ones go faster!

>>52224349

I'd wait until we get to see the kits, the ohters can bee seen at first sight.

>>52224316

Welcome to the wargaming equivalent of american football's bloodiest matches. It's fast, it's straightforward and damage flings and piles up fast as hell, though ultimately the goal is the key. It's rewarding and exciting and you can finish 2k games under two hours.

>>52221883
>just how the imperial guard works in 40k
So they just dying like IG?

>>52221892
>Free-guild don't need to have their asses hauled by their god-king's chosen warriors.
Except they totally need them.

>>52224405
Dude, you are a sad fella, replying twice to the same comment.

>>52224316
Do yourself a favor and read the rules, it's four pages long and freely availiable. You have that much time, I'm sure.
And for the Kharadron Overlords, nobody knows, they are not released yet.

>>52224382
>american football's bloodiest matches
Well damn

>>52224431
No I get that. But never having so much as seen a match and have no idea how other armies work even upon reading the rules I wont have a clear picture. Above was a good example. No I know its fast and hard as opposed to tedious and laborious.

>>52224473
Also 1" coherency not counting bases? wtf?

>>52224199
Steampunk sky pirate DuardOrks?

>>52224490
Nah, 1'' coherency counting them. Most people use btb, hell even GW in their events. This is something that will go out come next edition.

>>52224428
>replying twice to the same comment.
Wut? It was my first post in this thread.

>>52224498
>A unit must be set up and finish any sort of move as
a single group of models, with all models
within 1" of at least one other model from
their unit.
>A model’s base isn’t considered part of the model – it’s
just there to help the model stand up – so
don’t include it when measuring distances.
Uhhhhhh

>>52224521
>dat formatting
effing pdf

>>52224513
Yeah, and I'm Mickey mouse.

>>52224537
Nice to meet you will we see more bpack asgardians in the next Thor movie?
No seriously, this>>52221831>>52222020

isn't my posts

>>52223807
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/armycase/a-case-miniature-wargaming-carrying-display-case/description

>>52224521
The Generals Handbook mentions houserules, and gives measuring from bases as an example.

In short: If you WANT to measure from bases, you can.

>>52224646
>houserules
Main word here

>>52224656
It's houserule literally everybody uses, so it might as well be in the main book.

>>52224762
>It's houserule literally everybody uses
It's still homerule.

>>52224656
I don't know a single person or event or tournament that doesn't follow this houserule.

>>52224656
The only reason its a houserule is so people with old square bases dont get booty blasted yet
I can tell you that whenever the new handbook comes out the squares will be illegal. They already are for tourneys

Allegiance: Mortal Nurgle

Rotbringers Sorcerer (100)
Lord of Plagues (100)
Harbinger of Decay (140)
- General
Chaos Sorcerer Lord (140)
- Runestaff
5 x Putrid Blightkings (180)
5 x Putrid Blightkings (180)
5 x Putrid Blightkings (180)
5 x Putrid Blightkings (180)
5 x Chaos Knights (200)
- Ensorcelled Weapons
5 x Chaos Knights (200)
- Ensorcelled Weapons
5 x Chaos Knights (200)
- Ensorcelled Weapons


Blight Guard (100)
Godsworn Champions of Ruin (60)

Total: 1960/2000

>>52223746
Gee, I wonder if that's because the faction that supposedly gathers his scattered essence is specifically described as extremely isolationist?

>>52224936
We knew about Grimnir before we knew about Fyreslayers.
Gelt has not appeared in the fluff at all.

>>52224959
That's because Sigmar apparently didn't find Gelt. Why would an Incarnate just completely disappear? It makes no sense.

>>52224989
This, even though Mannlet stabbed him, being the incarnation of Chamon leads me to believe that his soul and Chamon magic are one in the same, so it's very believable that Aether-Gold is Gelt's essence

>>52224989
>>52224999
Nope.
Gelt was just a place holder for Grungni.
Like that elf with Grimnir.

>>52224807
>The only reason its a houserule is so people with old square bases dont get booty blasted yet
Nah

hi, i came back to the hobby a few days ago with some shiny new models and i got some questions.

When i look at the wood elve book that GW has for download there are alot more units in there then they sell. and when reading up on it on 1d4chan they have a 1.1 version of the faction that only has the units from the shop. i guess what iam asking is, where can i find the current rules for aos since the ones on the GW website seem out of date

>>52225204
Wood elfs and dryads used to be one army. The wood elf rules have all the old models, including dryads which are now labelled under the Sylvaneth faction.

>>52224199
>>52224333
Eh, not as if the rules say you have to paint them in those colours. The only real rule is to have the formation.

It's kind of like the Space Marine chapter tactics rules.

>>52225291
but they are missing many more units. war dancers, orion, elves on dragons. they are all gone too. wich is the current rulesset? woodelves book or generals handbook

>>52225468
Yep

>>52225468
Generals Handbook doesn't have any model rules. Only points. It does have points for all the discontinued models however, they are just in the "Compendium" section, under Wood Elves instead of "Wanderers".

All the models not on the shop have been discontinued, but they are still legal to use in game.

>>52225496
ah, ok. thx a bunch

>>52225590
Basically elves just have holdover rules atm, they havnt been officially rereleased with a battletome or anything yet. Should be sometime this year I suspect but who knows in what form

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>tfw none of the armies you want to play have a battletome yet
This is like when I wanted to be necrons in 3rd edition all over again

>>52225717
What would you like to play anon?

>>52225735
Dark Elves, Freepeople or Vampire Counts

I really dont want to buy the old models and have them btfo by whatever the new incarnations might be

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>>52225717
>Waiting for my skellies to get some love
>Waiting for death units in general to be relevant
fec need no apply (even if I like em)

>>52225629
>or anything yet.
Highborn got IoB with formation.
>Should be sometime this year I suspect but who knows in what form
Most likely it will be new army, like Overlords.

>>52225869
Freemen are legit great.

>>52225869
Undead have a bunch of stuff that fits the new astetic well, get them

>>52225898
>fits the new astetic well
Only ET models

>>52225939
>Undead have a bunch of stuff
i didnt say everything fits

>>52222422
I found some of it on Grand Alliance, actually.

>>52225204
>current rulee
Nowhere. They aren't going to have any updates in the future.

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>it took the grestest minds of the most crafty race to create airships

>greenskins already had 2 factions rocking around with airships

>>52226096
We floating ship battles now

>>52226147
More like rocking around with LOOTED airships

>>52225898
>fits the new astetic
What, overdesigned garbage?

>>52225869
Freeguild are perfectly competitive. It's what I'll be going in with when I make >>52216341 a reality instead of just a hypothetical. However, I'd suspect we'll never get a battletome. More likely than not, the old Empire stuff will go the way of the Bretonnians and Tomb Kings, just more slowly. There will end up being a few new human factions instead of just a third of the old Empire line in each of the three, both with completely different aesthetics from what came before just as the Overlords and Fyreslayers are nice excuses to get Dwarf players to buy new armies if they want to stay relevant. RIP Dispossessed.

>>52226166
How did they loot them in the first place if the dorfs started descending now?

So which of the legacy sub factions teams up best with their grand alliance

>>52226185
>playing unsupported army
kek

>>52226197
Dwarves always had skyships, see WHFB

>>52226205
Collegiate Arcane, solely for the Hurricanum.

>>52226227
>unsupported army still one of the most powerful in general, and the number one gunline army
kek

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/03/17/more-news-from-the-underworlds/

>A fast paced game of tatical arena combat
Still doesn't tell us much about the game, but there's going to be more news

>>52226253
>>unsupported army still one of the most powerful
>not even close to arcanites or sylvaneths

>>52225717
>being a Death alliance fan
LOL I AM GOING TO BE FUCKING DEAD IF WE GET A NEW ARMY

>>52225869
Flesh-Eaters make up a decent chunk of Vampire Counts and they have a pretty good battletome. Using it as a core, you can dip into other areas of Death very easily.

To be honest though, a lot of armies don't need battletomes. All units from Warhammer have rules and most factions have at least some element of synergy. You can actually build an effective army out of nothing by spider grots, a faction that has a total of three units but has some surprisingly decent synergy, tactical depth and most bases covered (magic, mortal wounds, shooting, speed, behemoth).

>>52226256
Pretty obvious it's small scale format like KillTeam or Nucromunda (which looks more like KillTeam with less variety)

>>52226292
FEC dont interest me in the slightest im afraid

>>52226292
>and most factions have at least some element of synergy.
Each new Battletome makes them weaker and weaker.

>>52226318
That's fair enough. What aspect of Death/Vampire Counts were you more interested in?

>>52226256
>Stormcast and Bloodbound
>the article tries to act as if this is something to get excited about

STOP

>>52226339
The synergy is still there (which is a fun part of the game for many), but yeah, I don't think power creep can ever be eradicated with GW's style of releases.

>still no Ghost army
>still no skelly army
>still no vampire army
>still no tomb kings
>still no Ushoran/FEC battletome supplement

>>52226360
Wraiths, skeletons, wights, undead/vampire knights and shit like that. I know its sort of playable now but I want an official release supporting that part or aspect of death before I buy anything.

>>52226430
>The synergy is still there
Yeah with doubleturns, weaker stats and lack of useful formations.

>>52226439
>>52226438
This. I want an armored undead army with a winged vampire lord and shit
Fuck zombie hordes

>>52226438
>still no Ghost army
Amusingly, the Ghost start collecting kit even includes its centerpiece from outside the Ghost faction