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$7 data sheet edition

>previous thread
>>52102494

>Daily Duncan
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEaPE4sLDA7ucJ0dkiVZSW6ghZUNGFHIW

>Rules and such. Use Readium on pc/iphone, lithium/kobo on android.
https://mega.nz/#F!BxI1HSgI!0tKymKh9RZTzGpgIA5EyCg
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https://mega.nz/#F!z4wmmJyR!jTfwLczhdFjV0q6nowtGag!qgZhmAhK

>40k rules reference in wiki format. 300% organized, apparently.
https://sites.google.com/site/wh40000rules/

>Latest GW teases
https://www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-40000/

>Latest GW FAQs. They're really fired up!
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-JP/Rules-Errata

>40K 7th Edition Quick Reference Sheets:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4104995/Games/7edRef.pdf

>List organizer picture book, please ask us about it anyway
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>Offline list builder
https://battlescribe.net/

>Forge World Book Index:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/wiki/en/Forge_World_and_Apocalypse_Rules_Index

>The Black Library (Now with more daemons)
https://mega.nz/#F!wx4BiKhD!YhnAf1BqSmAB8dO6xDM56Q
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>>52105327
>>52105368
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D I S C U S S
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>>52105391
It's just a dataslate that they decided to call a codex.
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>>52105391
>$7 data sheet edition
Just wait for full-scale sigmarisation and free rules
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>>52105403
See>>52105400
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Free codex

https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/PDF/Datasheets/Burning%20of%20Prospero%20Imperial%20Datasheets.pdf
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>>52105403
How much is it anyway ?
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>>52105403

>People will buy this crap because they don't want to browse eBay
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>>52105403
Aren't those the Custodes guys?
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>>52105433
10 pound, contains >>52105021
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>>52105433
>>52105436
Don't know m8. Here is the source https://spikeybits.com/2017/03/rumors-new-custodes-sister-army-box-spotted.html
>INB4 le spikeybits is shit maymay
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>>52105403
Guys 40k is not getting turn into AoS!

Yah because they are selling the datasheet now by calling them codex.

New CEO is just another Kirby
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>>52105391

We age of sigmar now
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>>52105452
>Sisters!
>Sisters of Silence.

God damn it! Can GW just squat SoB and end thier suffering.
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>>52105457
Now now, there's TWO new datasheets in the codex.
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What fucking bits are these, I need to mind them so I put churches on every vehicle in my DAngles list
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>>52105403
Custodes, SoS and transports shoved into a box. Nothing new here. Except new faction.
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>>52105391
Who's the skeleton on the far right of the pic?

¿Is he a chaplain or something?
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>>52105490

its the graveyard of morr from fantasy which I believe may be out of print (though my store still has one)
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>>52105477
>Celestine got new model
>SoB Special Character was released
>Both sold retardly well

Like rumored, GW finally understood that there is market for Sisters of Battle and so Adeptus Sororitas are getting models in ~years time.
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>>52105508

I see 'le based roundtree' doesn't believe in market research either kek
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>>52105457
Well, IMO we will see free datasheets in 8e and paid codices
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I just want all bullied armies to become viable

nid, orks and sisters GO!!!!
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I have fallen behind a lot when it comes to fluff. What books do I need to learn about all the recent changes, like Abaddon bolwing up Cadia, Yvraine, Papasmurf's return and all that shit?
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>>52105527

Literally the Gathering Storm series, ya tit.
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Kindly no Gathering Storm. If that is your cup of tea, please go elsewhere, especially if you're just going to shill or troll. For all intents and purposes, it's not the same universe.
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>>52105546

It begins. Will we see /40kg/ split into two over this
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>>52105546
kys tbqh nignog
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>>52105535

I assume they are not in the /w40kg/ archives> or is it just that I am a retard and cannot find them?

>>52105546
this is exactly the reason why I want to find out on my own. To avoid "my canon is better than yours" level of discussion.
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>>52105524
Nids, Orks and Sisters got pissed off at GW and united into one coalition Hive Sisters of Waagh.
Power armored girls riding hormagaunts dropping from dakkajets.
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>>52105523
Did you miss the codex Custodes?
3 datasheet sold as a codex

No, GW went full assholes
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>>52105546
If this somehow ends up as age of shiggy diggy too then I will agree with this sentiment. It's not like I haven't been ignoring large chunks of the fluff for years already.
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>>52105570
lewd
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Anybody got the Gothic and the Eldritch?
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>>52105546
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>>52105568

The third link under the rules of OP post has Gathering Storm 1 and 2. 3 isn't out yet but the entire plot has been leaked on some forum
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>>52105527
>>52105535
>>52105546

What? Has there been actual plot progression in 40k??
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>>52105603

It's been progressing ever since the release of the Sanctus Reach campaign book 2 years ago
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>>52105599

Thanx a lot man!
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Reminder that anything but a CAD list is cheesy horseshit and not real 40k
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>>52105498

It's still in print.
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Does anyone here play HOR kill team and want to talk about that? Its popular at my local club and my brother plays it as Squats
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>>52105571
It's not 8e yet, Anon. We are in super express quick The End Times point
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>>52105695
there is no End Times
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List rate? I'm new and I like slaanesh, but I have a lot of nurgle from aos. Otherwise I's use a flayertroupe keeper of secrets, furies, and a kakaphoni detachment.
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Where does AdMech fall on the list of power levels?

I'm hoping for something firmly in the middle; not that guy level of cheese, and not Orks/Nids tier of suck where I have one and only one viable tactic to possibly win sometimes.
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>>52105706
Here have Not! Stormcast Super marines made out from Girlyman by Cawl.

Anyone not desperately trying to convince themself that a AoS like situation is not happening in 40k.

Sure they are not axing 40k, but they sure trying hard to make same mistake that killed fantasy and also push the ideas of AoS into 40k

We already have grand alliance like things in 40k.

No idea if it will be bad but right now it feels like they didn't learn from fantasy or the reasons it fail
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>>52105706
Well, call it as you want Anon. I see a huge rules change, plot progression, new models and shit. It's End Times for me, and we will see new 40k in june or july
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>>52105760
ad mech arent a single list
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>>52105773
I plan on using some units from both the Skitarii and some from the Cult Mechanicus, I guess I should have clarified that.
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>>52105760
Gimmick tier like flyrants and turn one assault GSC when using war combo.

Any other time between Necrons and Guard.

Eldar tier: Eldar
Broken tier: Tau
OP tier: certain marine formation and Grav spam

Top Mid
Necrons with decurion of fucking die already/MSU SoB

Everyone else depends on the type of list and opponent and actually feels balanced.

Nids and Orks that are in the scrub tier.
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>>52105492
Ortan Cassius, the most awesome chaplain ever, you fucking heretic
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>>52105804
Cult mechnaicus are pretty high teir simply becuase of grav-kataphrons
Skitari have high-mid-teir as they have no transports, but can get around this, and have some nice combos with plasma culvrines, and some great basic guns
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>>52105763
>>52105769
hey, I got two (You)s
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>>52105814
I'm ignoring shit like:
Warp spider, scatter bike spam, Riptide wing, wraight night and servo skull Inquisitor in a single army.

Because that is an entire can of worms and bullshit to try and medaure
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>>52105828
>plasma culvrines
calivers
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>The light barely lingers, cast long against the hollowed halls.
>My work is complete, all that can be done now is to try
>The Praetorian stand guard over their sleeping master, as they have for too long
>now comes the most dangerous moment
>the armor hisses and squeals as it is sealed over his broken body
>vitals hold
>vitals hold
>wait
>failsafes and klaxons wail, something is wrong
>this is my most important work, I cannot fail
>I try to hold the inevitable at bay for a moment longer, this battle for a life too akin to the encroaching darkness on our galaxy
>he weakens
>the last of the candles in the chamber snuff out against the dying light, darkness takes hold, as it will all life.
>the moment has passed
>I have failed, everyone.

>but a light breaks the dim, shining brightly
>it is her
>she looks longingly at his form, and says, "I have died for your father 1000 times, but today, I bear you both his gift. and His curse. Only through the xenos was this transferable, I hope you can forgive me, but these are trying times. Serve us well lord, and save us."
>she places the halo upon him
>nothing
>then the ground shakes, the entire temple rumbles as if a sleeping god has awoken
>then silence
>then I see, his eyes open
>he rises
>The Inquisitor booms out the title not heard for a Millennium "ALL HAIL THE MASTER OF THE THIRTEENTH LEGION, LORD OF THE ULTRAMARINES, THE AVENGING SON. ROBOUTE GUILLIMAN!"
>everyone falls to a knee before the impossibility of what we see here, against the hope he represents
>he looks around the room cooly, regarding his armor first with an aura of imposed consideration.
>he barely whispers two words "How long?"
>I tell him, down to the last second deviation
>he stands in silence for a moment.
>He looks down at his hands and flexes both slowly.
>He then notices the marines before him.
>A grim smile plays at his lips
>he walks from the chamber, a light in the darkness glowing triumphantly
>"Come my sons, we have work to do."
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>>52105603
>changing a setting into a story

No, GW is just being stupid and thinks the setting is a story that needs advancement, rather than a framework into which everybody can make their own story ... Including GW

At least we're sure 40k is going to die off now, everything story based (tv series, movie francises, etc) either is ended by the creators at a good time, and then almost forgotten about but sometimes cherished ... or it keeps jumping the shark untill everybody is disgusted with what it has become.
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>>52105843
>posting on 4chan
>without having dyslexia
NORMIES GET OUT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>52105900
It looks like a buffed Start Collecting box
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>>52105900
>tfw you like the 40k custodes and sisters more due to the lack of pulled-out-of-ass stupid expensive vehicles never seen before.
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>>52105900
Grey Knights 2.0
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>>52105856
glorious
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>>52105391
>hurr you have to love GW otherwise you're a 1d4er!
>hurr you have to love AoS otherwise you're a 1d4er!

>>52105900
>custodes vehicles
>tracks
fuck off GW you shits
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>>52105900

Maybe like...

Space marines have boxy dreads, and their most decorated guys are in Contemptors.

Maybe Custodes have Contemptors as their base unit, and the spear or sword guys are their upgrade?
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>>52105900
>Gathering Storm
hmmm
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>>52105508
>>Celestine got new model
>it didn't work in SoB army
kek
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>>52105900
That "Codex"
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>>52105936
>>hurr you have to love GW otherwise you're a 1d4er!
>>hurr you have to love AoS otherwise you're a 1d4er!

this sounds like something a 1d4er would say...
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>>52105939
Betting you right now they're not ever going to show up in a GW publication. They can't take LRs or regular contemptors in 30k either.
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>>52105923

I want to start collecting Custodes specifically because of how fuckdamn sexy these dreads are, so I'm taking the fixed pose one as an insult.
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Can i use medusa in ig formation? It's basically basilisk, and goes in same slot.
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>>52105959
NOT IN THE CODEX REEEEEE
But in all seriousness, I wouldn't really care personally
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>>52105814
>>52105828
Neat, thanks for the (You)s and have one in return.
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>>52105954
that's what you want me to think, isn't it, you filthy 1d4er
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>>52105508
New model that prevents the special rules of SoB units if that new models joins them.

Yeah right, I'm surprise we didn't got an Ork rule that SoB kill themself when withing 12" of Celestine due to self flagellations or some shit.
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>>52105952
What's wrong with it?
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>>52105900
Let's make a 3 datasheet codex because we hate our own company FW.

GW are retards or what?

Also Custodes vehicle with tracks... fucking assholes
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Reminder that the plot progression from rt to 2e, and 2e to 3e were STILL far bigger leaps than literally anything in gathering storm and that story stagnation was a product of the old ones leaving gw staff
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>>52105959
RAW no, ask your opponent/group. I'd be inclined to allow it but but then again I was up for allowing non guard in Valkyries RE: Castellans detachment but the GSII FAQ squatted that idea
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Could someone post a brief synopsis of what happened in GS III and what new related products we received?
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Do your part, vote today!
http://www.strawpoll.me/12498953
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>>52105995
>2e to 3e were STILL far bigger leaps than literally anything in gathering storm

Blatantly false until you provide at least 16.5 examples
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>>52105983
You mean it's not self-evident?
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>>52105973
Nobody mentioned War Convocation which bullshit in tier "just below tournament optimized Tau". Its a rigid list but bonuses it has are extreme
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>>52106030
In case of Warhammer? Nope, since that's how most of AoS (including almost all old WHFB armies) looks like.
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>>52105391
500 points orks

1xwarboss
1x boys with slugga 27
1x boys with slugga 26
2x warbuggies with twin linked rocket launcher

Will go most likely against normal LSM with two squads and 1 or 2 rhino and some unknown sister of battle.
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>>52105900
This is pretty fucking cool
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>>52106015
New product is the triumvirate of the primarch and the fallen, which are dark angels veterans with a sprue.

Also custodes and SoS showed up which is related to the upcoming shit being discussed
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>>52105900

What happened, did they lose their grav-tanks during the Siege of Terra?
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>>52105995
What? 40k as it is didn't exist before 3rd

SoB no longer being marine killers is a big change.
Imperial shit like Guardsmen using Landraider a is maybe a big change.
GSC and Ork Chaos Cult was gone.
Necrons no longer Chaos androids

Out right bigger changes like fucking new god like things, exploding Cadia and bringing Primarch back is a big change.

GW has being turbo raping 2ed to 5th fluff so hard since 6th it is not even funny.
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>>52106030
Why GW can not name a supplement as a codex? Is there any rule about it?
>>52106050
>"Nope, since that's how most of AoS looks like"
>14 battletomes and 4 GA = 18
>16 Warscrolls Compendiums for units that mostly have free new rules on their GW site
Anon, I~
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>>52106085
>Necrons no longer Chaos androids
wut?
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>>52105995
>2e to 3e
Having played in that era you are wrong. Most changes were simple retcons, such as with the change in character of the Orks. Actual plot progression was relatively minor and seen almost entirely in the introduction of new armies like Sisters of Battle, Necrons, and Dark Eldar. The Imperium itself changed very little.

That said, Gathering Storm hasn't really changed much YET. But it certainly has set up to do so.
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>>52106092
>>16 Warscrolls Compendiums for units that mostly have free new rules on their GW site
Yeah and they are totally unplayable against new Battletomes.
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Gonna be honest:

If the new super marines rumoured actually come out I'll be pissed.

But if they come out and are mixed gender, I'll be too busy laughing at all the female marines butthurt to be pissed.
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>>52106102
Presumably he means necron going from emotionless robots in service of Cthulhu to lolrandom egyptians
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>>52106119
Are you even playing AoS? Nurgle daemons and mortals are one of the best armies and they don't have their own battletome
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>>52106134
No, don't be a retard.
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>>52106102
>>52106134
Necrons used to be "Chaos Androids" you mongs.
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Should I go for a more CSM based force?
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>>52106085
Those are all RT to 2nd changes at best.

For example. Necrons as introduced in 2nd. ed. were never Chaos Androids. Chaos Androids were a RT thing and then when "mysterious robots" were introduced in 2nd a few people tried to make that connection because there were already some robots that existed in the fluff. It was never supported by anything.
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>>52106136
>Are you even playing AoS?
I've watched.
>Nurgle daemons and mortals are one of the best armies
Not anymore. Literallyt none of old armies cannot match Sylvaneths, Tzeench and Stormcasts
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>>52106132

I doubt it. Sigmarines are all male sculpts, these will be as well.
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>>52106107

Are you drunk anon?
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>>52106015

>Abaddon's sorcerers predict Guilliman will return
>Chaos Space Marines invade Macragge and overrun it
>Ultramarines and Auxilia guardsmen getting crushed
>Motley crew of sisters, inquisition, black templars, adeptus mechanicus, and ynnari show up
>rush to save Guilliman in time
>Cawl presents the armor he had designed for Guilliman ages ago, but it's not enough to save him from the daemon wound
>they unplug him from stasis and kill him so that Ynnead can revive him
>Celestine gives him her halo or something
>Guilliman awakens at the last moment and BTFOs chaos
>realizes Imperium is a mess, heads toward Terra
>the Chaos Gods off Gulliman temptations but he overcomes them
>gets captured in a blackstone fortress by red corsairs
>Cypher saves him in exchange for passage to Terra
>they head to Terra
>Magnus shows up to fight him on the Moon
>Magnus gets banished with help from Custodes and Sisters of Silence
>Guilliman shows up on Terra, hands Cypher over to the Custodes for arrest fearing he'll kill the Emperor, Cypher escapes the next day
>Guilliman visits the Emperor in person
>returns renewed in spirit, retakes his seat as a High Lord of Terra, drains the swamp by telling several corrupt High Lords "you're fired"
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>>52106148
I do not remember this, I think I still have the WD when necons first appeared somewhere (you got a free one on the front cover).
I don't remember them even getting fleshed out at all until 3rd ed
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>>52106148
No they didn't.
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List your top 8 loyalist Primarchs who would make for a more interesting story than Gulliman if they returned.
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>>52106132
>female super marines
>inb4 SoBs get squatted after that
>>52106178
>>52106180
IIRC weren't they Chaos Androids in Spehss Crusade?
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>>52106164
>Literallyt none of old armies cannot match Sylvaneths, Tzeench and Stormcasts
Then you have not watched enough Anon. I watched pure nurgle daemons steamrolling SCE and new SCE few times. You can literally win with any army against any army - that's what is good in AoS right now. None army is nerfed like orks or nids in 40k
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>>52106156
Meant to use this image.
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>>52106178
This reminded me I threw out all my old WDs when I moved a few years ago
Regret
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>>52106185
Alpharius/Alpharius/Alpharius/Alpharius/Alpharius/Alpharius/Alpharius/Omegon
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>>52106177
Thanks!
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>>52105936

Proving once and for all forge world hover garbage isn't canon or accepted
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>>52106190
Necrons were created in 2nd ed. with the Sanctuary 101 incident. Previously existing robots were never Necrons.
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>>52106178

Basically, there was a chaos android model that was obviously the inspiration for the design of Necron Warriors.

It's the only tie. Chaos androids didn't so much become Necrons as their roboskeleton design was reused with tweaks.
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>>52106177

Heard someone saying Emps had manifested psychically and named rowboat his successor and gave him his sword while declaring him the new Emperor. Accurate or bullshit?
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>>52106190
>Spehss Crusade
oh crikey that's a long time ago. Never played it.... maybe then?
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>>52106062
plz respond, no formation other then the normal FoC. Will give free grots to everyone
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If space marines are not safe from Gullimarines then I can only imagine what GW thinks of the xenos races. If Space Marines are becoming the new IG then the xenos races stand no chance in hell. We're likely just going to be kicking fodder for gullimarines in lore from this point going forward. We'll get models released with gullimarines just to show how much ass they can kick no matter what they give the xenos.
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>>52106185
Maybe Dorn, Russ idk if more interesting but pretty fun to see, and The Lion just for the memes. (And because he's cool, ok)
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>>52106232
Bullshit. He goes into Emp's room for a day, comes out (everything between is unstated) and resumes his post as Lord Commander so he can start fixing shit.
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The new standard marines will be dreadnaught sized
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>>52105957
All contemptors are ugly, so I usually pretend they aren't there.
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>>52106230
fair enough, we never played space crusade only 40k and Space hulk I do remember people using the SC dreadnought though
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>>52106247

Good to know.
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>>52106263

How dare you

Every dread is special

It is my life's greatest ambition to become a dreadnought
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>>52106259
I hope they will be Liberator sized
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Who else wants to make predictions on what type of rediculeous asspull GW is gonna come up with in order to make Sanguinius return ?
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>>52106278
LITTLE
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>>52106275
You must first let a truck hits you and still barely alive first.
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>>52106275
That suddenly made me imagine Stephen Hawkins as a Dreadnought for some reason
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>>52106272
cont.
oh shit and hero quest! gotta love me some hero quest
one of the guys used to use the gargoyle from hero quest as a demon prince of khorne
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>>52105900
Grey Knights confirmed NPC race now
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>>52106281
nah GW is gonna honor that shit, he's fucking ded senpai
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>>52106286
LEETLE LEETLE MAN

RUN HOME TO MAMA
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>>52106132
>But if they come out and are mixed gender, I'll be too busy laughing at all the female marines butthurt to be pissed.

Yeah I was wondering about that, if GW might use this opportunity to make the Boys Only Marine club into less of a sausage factory

scary times we live in
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>>52106278
If that marine was painted by you, your painting skills are just like your taste in miniatures

Trash
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>>52106286
BLUE
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>>52105980
>New model that prevents the special rules of SoB units if that new models joins them.
A what now?
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>>52106278

Why they put granola bar on the sigmarine's base?
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>>52106278
Fuck no. I'm tired of this oversize miniatures.

Did GW forgot people have to carry this thing around in order to play. Or they think every one has a friend with a room dedicated to the game with display for his and friend's armies to store the models so you don't have to move them around?
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>>52106310
>I can't using google: the post
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>>52106316
SMURFS
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>>52106301
When it comes to GW and potential profit, nothing is sacred though.

It is not a matter of if, but when. They'll probably make female marines with his blood as well after his return.
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>>52106185
0. lost primarchs
1. Dorn
2. Alpharius
3. Russ
4. Vulkan
5. Lion'el
6. khan/corax tied last

sanguinius and ferrus can't come back
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>>52106281
What if they shove his corpse in a dreadnought?
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>>52106324
Anon, they are something like 1 - 1,5cm higer than most marines. Also you are not running 200 of them - you are just bitching right now
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>>52106281
Something something Sanguinor
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>>52106278

So fucking goofy and bland.

Stormcasts should have looked like their new scout guys from the start. More detail and personality, subtly less bulky.
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>>52106341
Or an Imperial Knight.

With fuckhuge wings ofcourse.
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>>52106322
Celestine doesn't have Acts of Faith/War Hymns rule. So if she joins a SoB squad they can't use their once per game act of faith rule until she leaves. In practice it's not a big deal since Celestine doesn't really need a squad for protection all the time. Just detach her any time you want to use the Act.
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>>52106354

I like how those new guys have water bottles and bedrolls, discovering fans actually care about details like that! What a fucking mess...
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>>52106177
does Abaddon dies after all ?
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>>52105403
It states "They tower over mortal men; each has the statuesque physique of an ancient hero, close to nine feet in height, even without his scarlet-crested helm."

I guess this confirms that Space Marines are about 8 feet tall. Custodes are nine feet tall and a little bit less if they take off their helmets.

I mean, how tall is that? Anyone have pictures of 9 and 8 feet tall objects?
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>>52106365
Isn't she a good distraction carnifex anyway?
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>>52106354
The masses gobble them up dude
Its the best selling AoS line
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>>52106354
It's just your opinion, Anon. I like the "old" ones because they fit my taste - I wanted a phalanx of living golems of vengeance and they worked well
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>>52106177
>hands Cypher over to the Custodes for arrest fearing he'll kill the Emperor, Cypher escapes the next day

Kek. Cypher really is the best escape artist the universe will ever see.
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>>52106380
she is.
a distraction carnifex, that does not die...
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>>52105763
>Here have Not! Stormcast Super marines made out from Girlyman by Cawl.
>believing a random anon

>bu-bu-but muh hastings
Hastings hasn't leaked anything in years. No chance in hell I'm trusing him on his first thing back.
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>>52106373
9 feet tall.
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>>52106322
SoB units have AoF
They can only use them if everyone has WH or AoF
New Celestine does not have a WH or AoF

So if she joins a SoB squad they can no longer use their AoF.

Thanks GW!

>>52106349
Oh come on between the free tanks and if marines end being as big as Stormcast transporting that stuff is going to be a pain in the ass.
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>>52106373
8'11"
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>>52106333
>sanguinius and ferrus can't come back

Hey man, you're shakin' it all wrong.
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>>52106373

Imagine someone who's head scrapes the ceiling in an average building. Most ceilings around here are 9 feet or so. Course I don't know bout where you live.
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>>52106373
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAiXVaD6C5w
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>>52106333
Jokes on you, alpharius simultaneously takes up all of those spaces and none of them
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>>52106406
When will they learn
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>>52106398

Hastings has like a 99.9% positive rating when it comes to rumours

stop trying to damage control
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>>52106395
A single distraction Carnifex. Unless you are facing retards New Celestine is not something OP broken as /tg/ thinks it is.
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>>52106194
>. I watched pure nurgle daemons steamrolling SCE
1) Because old SCE wasn't great
2) Nurgle was one of OP (unlike Khorne and Slaanesj) armies with TK when GHB dropped
>and new SCE few times.
Few times even Nid player have chances
>You can literally win with any army against any army
Well nope. All Order mortals are useless since their divided into shitton of "armies" (1 infantry/cav unit 1 monster/warmachine unit) and cannot use common buufs between their units like Sylvaneths or Sigmarines
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>>52106407
What happened to Hawkboy's corpse anw ?
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>>52106407
this is the same stupidity that ruined the ollanius pius story by making him fucking immortal. Sanguinius can't come back, because that would make the sacrifice meaningless. Ferrus I'll give you.
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>>52106278
>We aren't toy company
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>>52106428
Retrieved by the Angel and entombed on Baal.
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>>52106436
Yeah, I know - space marines models look like shit but finally we will see something decent
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>>52106400
Jesus...
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>>52106436
It was actually more
>we're a miniatures company first, game company second
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>>52106431
>Sanguinius can't come back, because that would make the sacrifice meaningless.
> Implying GW cares about that.
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>>52106132

Imagine how much rage there would be if they came out and the new 'Better than marines marines' were female.
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>>52106428

Corax wandered off into the warp, I think.
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>>52106455
isn't it implied that horus did something extra-murdery to him? I forget.
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>>52106278
My man based this shit with graham cracker crust
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>>52106478
Yeah his soul got vaporized or something. same reason Horus is deader than dead.
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>>52106247

Yeah, it's more or less the same way they handle Alicia Domina doing the same thing. It's a decent idea for keeping some mystery about how much the Emps can do.
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>>52106468

Or not, and they could just give us a new SoB kit.
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>implying GW won't bring back all the Primarchs
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>>52106468
The scary thing is that I can actually see GW doing this.

But only in such a hamfisted way that everybody feels offended by them, including feminazi's
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>>52106452
>but finally we will see something decent
You mean toys from McDonalds?
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>>52106497
I just want loyalist thousand sons for 40k t b h
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>>52106418
And he hasn't leaked anything in years. If he was getting everything about GS up until this point right, that'd be something.
But he hasn't leaked in years, and as such his former reliability is suspect, as we have no recent evidence to show he can be reliable.
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>>52106497
>How to make 40K Imperium vs Chaos again
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>>52106400
>>52106406
>>52106408
>>52106410
Shit, that it really large, adding in the armour, weight and superhuman muscle and you have an incredibly large individual.

No wonder there is that 'Transhuman Dread' in the setting.
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>>52106497
Anything for a quick buck :^)
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>>52106502

I don't agree with you. GW can be pretty dumb at times but there isn't anything that says they would go that far. I definitely feel they might sneak women in but not all of them.
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>>52106507
specifically, magnus to return and ahriman to lead the chaos thousand sons
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>>52106492
I mean, there's always the "AGONIZINGLY ALONE" passage if you want to see what Big E has to deal with these days.
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>>52106506
>You mean toys from McDonalds?
No, we already have them as 40k space marines.
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Why would they make women marines when SoB exist? Nobody would buy them
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>>52106528
It'd be the other way around if it happens, even new book states Magnus has long since gone mad.
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>>52106496

That would be part of the rage, yes. You'd get the 'no female marine' crowd and the 'Where is some SOB support dammit' crowd.
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>>52106502
Feminazis would be offended regardless, even if they made everything they asked for. They'll bitch because they had to tell others how to do it or some shit.

3rd/4th wave was a mistake
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>>52106532

You guys are cute arguing with each other but Space Marines and Sigmarines are both McDonalds toys.
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>>52106521
>but there isn't anything that says they would go that far.
Why not? They are very progressive in current times, all AoS box have at least 1 google and 1 chink sigmarine/chaos wariior, they've also introduced first transgender models.
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>>52106039
Am I a cheeser if the war convocation is basically exactly what I planned to make anyway, before I even knew it had bonuses?
I wanted a base of skitarii, some beep boops, and eventually a knight anyway.
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>>52106548

>all AoS box have at least 1 google and 1 chink sigmarine/chaos wariior, they've also introduced first transgender models.
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>>52106516

Transhuman dread is one of the dumbest things I ever read in 40k.
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>>52106545
Well, listen here you piece of shit - it's just an opinion so I'm okay with that. I'm not gonna gun him for not liking what I like but a little bit of shitposting will kill noone
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>>52106289
>Stephen Hawkins
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>>52106300
They've been NPC tier since Rise of the Wulfen.
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>>52106548
proofs or GTFO
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Imagine giving a shit about space marines lol
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imagine no aos discussion on a 40k thread
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>>52106552
Nah it makes sense as an army type and there's no reason not to use your army's strongest list if you're playing other competitive armies
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GG is full of a bunch of whiny bitches that are upset that they're getting something that they actually won and instead are looking for something to complain about on a fucking image board. you guys have a great opportunity to fucking discuss how to make a better narrative game is an interesting rules so that you can each have your own fun at your hobby shops but instead you tremendous faggots decide that the only thing to talk about is how much you hate X thing.

Fuck you tg
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>>52106573
>proofs or GTFO
Also, look at their store
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>>52106548
>all AoS box have at least 1 google and 1 chink sigmarine/chaos wariior
Well, no
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>>52106548
>first transgender models
slaanesh disagrees
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>>52106552
Kinda yeah. Same happened to me when I hoarded all the skitarii/cultmech/knight releases and then they released a formation that could play all three!

...And it was one of the most cheesiest shit around.
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>>52106596
>GG
Huh?
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>>52106555
Makes sense if you ask me, if something like a Space Marine was running at me, I would shit my pants as well.
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>>52106599
that's not a nigger, that's a regular head painted like one. doesn't even have nappy hair.
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>>52106615
I used a voice app
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>>52106548
>First transgender

Oh wow are you 12? Started playing a couple of years ago or what?
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>>52105414
>free rules
>this will somehow be a bad thing???
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So I tried to google the Raptors chapter, and ended up searching "space marine eatapeors"

I hate this fucking phone keyboard.
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>>52106623
>voice app
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>>52106616

The issue is that space marines are not even in the top 10 scariest things in the setting. If you can stand up to the sheer speed of eldar, a marine running at you shouldn't make your brain shit itself about 'How can it be so fast'
>>
imagine strangulating a l4dtard irl and then you check his room and he doesn't fucking play fantasy or 40k lmao
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>>52106603
Has that guy got a powerfist?
Are these liturally khornite terintors, that they just re-perosed at the last minuet ?
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>>52106490
>Implying Horus didn't send Sangy's soul directly to Khorne, do not pass go, do not collect 200 Thrones
>Implying the loyal Primarch to fall Chaos isn't Sangy himself after 10,000 years with Khorne
>Khorne will get his first choice Primarch. Angron can go be Nails-in-the-Brain crazy with Skarbrand
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>>52106642
There are hundreds of things in the setting that would make a normal human shit themselves but maybe this transhuman dread is a Great Crusade thing as this is when Space Marines were introduced.

By the 41st milleium, Space Marines are seen as the Angels of Death and full of wonder and superstition so maybe this dread is gone (same with other creatures in the setting due to ignorance).
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>>52106672
Nice try Skarbrand.
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>>52105498
Brrrrrrrr! Wrong.
At least partially, the bulk of it is the empire pew pew chariot.
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>>52106308
If they release female space marines I will rage.

Not because of the female marines themselves, but because that means the fucking marines of all people got female models before us, the imperial fucking guard!
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>>52106626
No, I meant that there is nothing to bitch about - Gw made a stupid thing with this new """codex""" but they will probably copy the rules system from AoS to 40k
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>>52106689

But that's wrong
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>>52105546
>Warhammer 41,000 General /41kg/ soon
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Reminder that half the retards that compain about stuff here dont even have a tabletop army
They just play warhammer video games and read about tabletop
Fuck off
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>>52106664
Your spelling is atrocious.

But no, it's a push dagger type thing, but crude and with an armoured hand grip.
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>>52106709
It's not my fault literally nobody here plays the game.
Or sells it.
Though I'm not one of the anons throwing a hissy fit.
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>>52106709

Reminder that idiots that believe this do so because they claim 'they asked' 1 guy on an anonymous mongolian picture factory board that anyone can respond to what armies they play and are told 'none'
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>>52106732
Post time stamped army then /v/ tard
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>>52106603
It's ET, not AoS
>>52106610
They are Hermaphrodites
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>>52106740

Post your gay stormcasts first, fuckboi
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>>52106623

>Voice app

Yeah, no. Rest of this post written with a voice app to make a point:

Is it hurts to breathe very smart chance but does not meet with me please read this book this book had chance
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>>52106719
Yeah it is, i am lazy and posting on 4chan so i double give no fucks.
Shame, though with a little work, and some green stuff, these guys COULD make passable world eater termintors
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>>52106289
Fund it
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>>52106373
It doesn't confirm 8ft SM though. Custodes models tower over SM.
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>>52106365
This was FAQ'D and is no longer true, Celestine is a SoB hero. Turbo autists btfo
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>>52106770

They faqd it? Awesome. Need to go read that.
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>peoples armies with atrocious homebrew colorschemes and designs

Being a /fa/ggot wargamer is suffering
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>>52106752
Not him but my first time using a STT app:

Just to prove a point you really need to take the dicks out of your mouth
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This was typed with my nose
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>>52106719
man I remember this from tintin
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>>52106814
nigger tongue my anus
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>>52106719

None of those Khorne warriors are wielding a katar. The guy has a scorpion claw.
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>>52106800

Where is your army, hotshot?
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>>52106849
My friend is borrowing it atm, he goes to another school so you wouldnt know him
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>>52106840
Just looked up the unit, holy shit it's actually scorpion claw.

Didn't spot the tail either.
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>>52106623
Are you retarded, or are your fingers just too fat to type?
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>>52106728
I play dark angels and just played a match Tuesday
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>>52106884
I meant in my area. Even DnD is a literally who deal.
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>>52106469
What I wouldn't give for:
>Corax coming back to disappear with all the RG to persecute the 13th crusade
>Mortarion teaming up with the red corsairs to tear up Chogois
>Eldar on the way to Terra open secret Webway portal only to discover jagahtai khan
>Thraka, Angron, Helbrecht and Yarrick show down on Armageddon

So much potential
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>>52106883
Are you so autistic that you can't fucking use voice app? Fucking faggot I bet you don't even have a carrying case
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JUST
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>>52106618
>asks for nigger
>gets shown a nigger
>that's not the kind of nigger I was looking for
Never change
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>>52106924
Corax is just a dream but Russ coming back to lead fenrisless suicidal space wolves would be great too
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>>52106942
>race is just skin colour
m8
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>>52106955
>race isnt just a genetic predetermination
m9 negro r u srs
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>>52106770
Gonna need a link friend. FoB has a FAQ. FoC does not.
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>>52106955
>he's never seen a nigger with Anglo features
Ayy lmao
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>>52106910

What third world butt fuck banana republic are you from?
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>>52106232
He already had the sword whilst in stasis - probably from when he was lord commander after the Heresy
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>>52107000
Don't insult banana republics with that retardation.
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>>52105843
Plasma Culver's: cheese curds and frozen custard that Gets Hot!
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>>52106281
Massive battle where entire death company die on dimamar in the presence of sanguinor
It swells to Magnus size kills every chaos wanker on the planet then bloddsucks every daemon stored inside the planet
Now it is the size of Unicorn and flies to Baal which is about to be consumed by tyranids
It's firey wings wipe out the bioships then it lands on Baal secundus and very BA and BA successor grows wings of fire and they wipe out all the tyranids in the system whilst high fiving the Silent king
2 new triumvirates - sanguinius reborn dante Mephiston / silent king some new cryptek some new triarch
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>>52106937
What are these supposed to be?
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>>52106431
I could see Ferrus coming back, just not as a human. Maybe like somehow one of the clones Fulgrim keeps making escapes into real space, gets captured by Necrons, and is experimented on and turned into a pariah or something.
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>>52107147
>Necrons bringing back Ferrus
>Not Sanguinus
Necrons don't really like the Iron Hands whilst they are best friends with the Blood Angels.
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>>52107179
Ferrus Manus had necrodermis hands. Sanguinius does not.
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>>52107000
Balkans :(
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>>52107201
They will give sanguinus necrodermis wings and a necrodermis penis.
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>>52105403

Who gives a fuck? Not that big of a deal.
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>>52106507
>what are grey Knights?
Their founder was/is a Magnus shard
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100 random autists were polled and the results are in.
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>>52107255
didn't they have like 7 founders? or are you talking about malcador? whuh?
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>>52107255

A chapter made using the Emperor's geneseed, which has been basically confirmed?
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>>52107132
>so innocent
:3
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>>52107268
last son of prospero short story
A shard merges with arvida to create this weird one eyed super marine
It calls itself Janus
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This may be question already answered ages ago, so feel free to tell me to fuck off, but the data card that came with my Start Collecting! Skitarii box contained the pic related, except mine says Rangers and not Vanguard.

Is this an either/or situation, is my box a misprint, or should I just go with what my card says and build the Rangers?
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>>52106177
Make Terra great again??
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>>52105403
Fake. Yesterday the troll posting this pic had it way bigger, and it was pixilated as fuck and very obviously a shoop. He shrunk it in hopes of salvaging his troll. See how it says gathering storm, even though its basically over at this point, and all releases for it have already been announced and or released.
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>>52107388
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/03/10/talons-of-the-emperor-in-the-41st-millennium/
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>>52107356
Some of the box cards say Vanguard, some say Rangers. GW said to go with whatever the card said, which means pick whichever you want. I recommend Vanguard, they're much better and suit the formation bonus more anyway.
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would this list be any good for my kill team game this weekend?
likely be up against marines and scions
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>>52107388
>>52107401
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>>52105508
>Cawl and associates sold retardly well
FTFY
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>>52106333
>2. Alpharius
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>>52105669
Skitarii and Harlequins literally cannot run a CAD.

Lets get rid of formations entirely? Then our eldar overlords can finally abuse our assholes like they are want to do!
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>>52105900
gay, I give it a fuck landraiders/10 will not buy.
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>>52107132
That's a necron wraith anon.
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>>52105900
Cool models ruined by gay hair. Common GW style failure. Everything must have a gaudy and awful top knot.
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>>52107433
Vyridian sold beyond your wildest dream good.

qt GayFox sold well.
Waifu Cawl sold well.
Fat cow and fat Friends sold well.

How many people bought the kit for what we have no idea.
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>>52105403
10 custodes, and a Contemptor would make a great Start Collecting box desu.
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>>52105994
It's funny how even GW knows FW has shit rules.
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>>52107201
Silent King wears Sanguinius's Mask to troll Dante.
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>>52107408
You should do fine if you abuse your mobility and make good use of your special weapons. What specialists are you using? I assume the caliver, arquebus and one of the galvanic rifles?
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>>52107506
I remember some dude being interviewed in Games Day(?) and he told that they/GW were excited because Triumviriate of the Imperium sold "exceptionally well". How much that is? No idea.
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>>52106333
I have always wondered if they ever mention the lost primarchs, what will be the reason they were killed?
>>
Ferrus Manus will come back as a legion of the damned character, riding an enormous flaming motorcycle, wielding forgebreaker, green flames trailing from his headless neck
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>>52107511

No, because that contemptor is the Calth one.

>>52105957
These are Custodes dreads. Very different.
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>>52107388
BTFO
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>>52107632
>ywn see headless biker Ferrus have a bike fight with Doomrider
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>>52107620

The missing Primarchs used to be so you could make your own legions, but make no sense in that context since they made the idiotic decision to take Primarchs out of the realm of myth.
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>>52107596
yeah the caliver is weapon specialist for master crafted and the vanguard alpha is the indominatable specialist for eternal warrior. one of the the arquebuses has weapon specialist for expert shot
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>>52107660
It's so they can release a slightly modified Guilliman box with some more wargear down the line and say MAKE YOUR OWN PRIMARCH.
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>>52107632
>legion of the damned character
Not nesessarily Ferrus, but one of the primarchs for sure.
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Where can I find rules for having storm shields on cataphractii?

I don't see it in the pdf, and I know they sell them
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where do i get the most recent rules for the iron saint shadowsword?
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>>52107407
It makes more sense as Vanguard since it says the unit has to be within 18" and that seems to be more the Vanguard's style anyway.
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Thoughts on my 8th Ed project
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>>52107723
play 30k imperial fists, then you can put storm shields on cataphractii
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hey guys I'm try to use Guilliman in my friendly 500 pt list but he doesnt fit

Wat do??
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>>52107723
Cataphractii cannot take Storm Shields except for 30k Imperial Fists.
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>>52107767
Don't
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>>52107620
it is, as you probably know, hinted that they were wiped out because of a gene-seed defect. What that could be, or why empsy felt it necessitated their destruction, is left up to us to guess.
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>>52107767
just remove a scout squad if you hate your friends that much
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So now that girlyman is here.
How does smashbane fare against him?
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>>52107477
Harlies can with Yvraine and Visarch as HQ
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>>52107788
but then its not a full CAD
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>>52107767
Hey, I noticed you were a raging homosexual just like me. Would you like to dress up as Marines together so we can talk about having each others backs and how it really feels like a brotherhood when we stick our penises in each other?
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>>52107805
it's a friendly game. play unbound.
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>>52107767
Is this the new new 500 point leman russ armored company list?
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>>52107793
Guilliman beats him.
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>>52107793
Dies in (less than) 6 rounds. Guilly rolls 6 to hit and his strenght turns Destoyer for that hit. Another six and bam, dead smashbane.
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>>52107775
>>52107788
>>52107837
>>52107838
>>52107840

alright, i fixed it guys. You think my opponent will let me slide 10 pts??
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>>52107793
Do we have rules for him yet?

Does his burning blade beat the Burning Blade?
What buff does he hand every Ultramarine just by being on the field? Will be funny if Calgar inspires the lads better than papa smurf himself
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>>52107793
Smashfucker dies.
Bobby G. has situational D. Which is Smashfuckers weakness.

The run down is: BobbyG will get a 6 on the Destroyer Table autokilling Smashfucker long before SF can whittle down RG.
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>>52107767
Just play a 525 point game!
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>>52107879
No. 10 Points is forgivable at way higher point values, but not 500, and definitely not when you literally have no wargear to drop.
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>>52107767
Telion's cheaper than a Librarian
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>>52107895
RG's sword is much better
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>>52107895
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>>52107895
http://m.imgur.com/a/j4uay

We have rules for most of the shit
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>>52107793
SMASHFUCKER PRIME is outright invincible to anything short of the almighty D. He also requires 11 rounds to kill Guilliman.

Guilliman automatically wins in 6 rounds via rolling 6 times on the D table.
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>>52107917
Only 350? I expected him to be at least two landraiders

>666 666
What did they mean by this
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>>52107933
>Cypher BS10
Holy shit fucken plasma dead-eye
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>>52107935
>SMASHFUCKER PRIME

who is smashfucker prime??
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>>52107723
Gotcha, I thought someone said I could use them in 40k with SS/TH alongside Lysander
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>>52107946
reminder that a wraithknight is 295
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>>52106612
If you want to play that there is a formation and a separate detachment in Fall of Cadia, both of which are capable of turning them into a single army.
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>>52108005
https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Chapter_Master_Smashfucker#SMASHFUCKER_PRIME_VERSUS_THE_PRIMARCHS
>inb4 reeeee 1d4chan
Someone update the Rowboat section to the new Gorillaman
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>>52107935
RG ignores his Feel No Pain. So RG wounds on 2+ and SF saves on a 3++ rerolling 1's. While SF wounds on 2+ and RG saves on a 3++ with FNP
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>>52108024
And that's utterly filthy
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>>52108036

cool, thanks for showing me this anon, hehe
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>>52108036
>that final stat line
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>>52108155
His name's in ALL CAPS for a reason.


Iron within Iron without
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>>52108179
wrong Iron chapter
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>>52108226
I know
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>>52106516
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>>52108271
Hes a big guy
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>>52108271
What caliber is two fists worth?
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>>52108271
Dat 120mm handgun
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>>52108336
just now saw the difference between the round in the magazine and the barrel diameter.
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>>52108226
Iron within, IronY
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>>52105490
Also parts from the celestial hurricanum
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>>52106197
What do you want to achieve with this list, anon?
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>>52107408
10 Vanguards with 3 arc rifles and an arc maul would be better
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New bread when
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>>52106275
I beheaded you primarch.
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>>52107076
Get an astropath, problem solved.
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How will you deal with 40K getting AoS'd?
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>>52108755
Be happy because Orruks are awesome and Orks are shit.
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>>52108775
how's the weather in russia?
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>>52107477
Amusingly enough this statement is no longer true. Both of these armies can run a CAD by including one of the heroes from their respective gathering storm boxes.
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>>52107411
Thanks for making my mistake less painful, jovial bird who happens upon lost treasures.
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1 day after the unban AND THE SAME ASSHOLE hastings who wronged the entire fucking predictions about Fantasy is now fearmongering 40k

when /tg/... nvm the autism and memes post AoS made /tg/ become the Little /v/illage
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>>52107497
Well, it's not like you can not just cut them off
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Do updated FW rules for HH models apply to their 40k rule sets in other books? Namely, dreadclaws have the rule that prevents mishaps in the more recent HH books, but doesn't in IA13 but both cost the same.
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>>52109092
>Do updated FW rules for HH models apply to their 40k rule sets in other books

Nope. Each system has their own rules
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>>52109092
Unfortunately no. Dreadclaws are possessed in IA13 but not in HH
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>>52108940
>He's blaming AoS for 40k cancer and salty community
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>>52108860
Does it say you can add cawl to any skitarii formation? Or did they add a cad for skitarii with cawl as the only HQ chooice? Otherwise I dont see how.
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What is this bullshit about Guilliman leaving the Smurfs?
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>>52109145
hes right mot of the 40k and 30k shiposting salt by now is coming from fantasy fags and butthurt "Not ultramarines player, wheres muh DA" players bitching about anything new.

>>52109171

MAC Daddy is still the chapter master, Bobby G is now the LORD COMMANDER and CONSTANTINE I of the imperium

probably this music played out on terra when he set foot on it

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Suw1PaTzTIE
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>>52109225
>>52109225
>>52109225
NEW
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>>52109223
Then blame WHFB fags, not AoS
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>>52106062
not horrible, i'd get deffkoptas instead, but it's okay. Also you NEED bosspole and PK on nobz in those troops
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>>52108940
>who wronged the entire fucking predictions about Fantasy
He was right about Realms and sigmarines
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