Warhammer Fantasy General

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So in running a Norse campaign, after reading through the tome of corruption do you think that there would be any increase/decrease in trade with Norsca after the storm of chaos? Maybe after the hordes have dissipated the Marienburgers are trying to use the time of peace to get a buffer state in addition to Kislev?
What kind of effects would increased trade have on the Norse?

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>>51891699

> No edition.

This thread is definitely going in the book.

Anyone seen Chaos Dwarves made from the Longbeards/Hammerers kit?

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>>51893315

I've seen them made from normal warriors kit. Usually some Chaos Warriors bits and greenstuffed curly beards. I guess it depends what style you like, I always preferred the 'big hat' ones.

Plus, considering how expensive Hammerers are, why aren't you just buying the Russian Alternative ones?

>>51893425
Just considering a few for the Hellcannon crew.

>>51893513

Oh I see. Have you lost them or are you converting up a HC as well?

>>51893541
I'm just not crazy about the little fellas that came with it.

>>51893594

Converting them will probably be your best option but I would just use some warriors. You'll hardly see what's under the beards anyway.

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Beastmen in Naggaroth were brought up last thread; here's a relevant bit of fluff. Though personally I'd rather just have Native American themed warherds. They are too cool a culture to be kept to only Forest Goblins.

>>51893847
That theme may be possible now that Ungor have bows.

Not sure about the respect for nature though. Maybe they perceive the chaos gods as animals?

>On this Morrslieb we give thanks to the bull, the bird, the...frog, and the...seahorse?

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>>51893962
You could argue the respect for nature might just come from that they see themselves as purely natural things, more than civilized Dark Elves or Humans or anything like that.

And there are some cool bits of Native American myths to steal from. You could easily work a lot of pic related to perceptions of Chaos or daemons.

>Native American themed warheard

Led by Beastlord Shitting Bull.

>>51893847

I think having Indian themed Beastmen in what is geographically North America is low hanging fruit even for GW.

>>51894347
They put Egyptians in Egypt and Italian city states in Italy, as well as keeping in a vague China and Japan analogue when there was really no need.

The only reason GW would avoid low hanging fruit anymore is that they aren't as easily copyrighted.

>>51894347
Do you have problems with Cathay, Norsca, Lustria, Ind, Khemri, Bretonnia, and the Empire as well?

>>51894420
>>51894427

No I don't have a problem with any of those historically based armies because none of those imply that a said culture are a bunch of slavering sub-humans.

Plus, Ancient Egyptians, Vikings and the rest are long gone.

Does anyone know of any good market places for buying old Warhammer miniatures?

>>51894448
So appropriate a better culture and pretend they're Wood Elves.

>>51894517
Ebay you silly billy.

>>51894517

Plenty of eBay shops deal exclusively in old OOP Citadel models. Depends how old 'old' is. You can get some 80's and 90's stuff for a fairly good price, although usually on a per-model basis.

>>51894448
>No I don't have a problem with any of those historically based armies because none of those imply that a said culture are a bunch of slavering sub-humans.

You don't base them off actual natives, but off their monsters, instead. Even if you do offend them, who cares - stone age civilization with less than a million living descendants.

>>51894448
Who says they have to be? Tribal does not equal savage subhumans; just look at Norscans or Kurgan, or the very Aztec Lizardmen.

GW did make a huge mistake with the Pygmies, sure. But they could have easily made some vague African kingdoms and clans instead, which would have helped explain the trade between Cathay and the Old World, and may have helped open up the Southlands as an actual place fun flesh out, beyond Lizardmen and Orcs.

>>51894448
These "slavering sub-humans" have metallurgy.

>>51894598

It's not the tribal part, it's that they literally are sub-human, ie. half man half beast.

>>51894674

You mean half beast half man.

>>51893962

Snake could fit better as Slaneesh

>>51894118
A bison minotaur?

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>>51895612
In older editions there were snakemen of chaos. Pic related

>>51891906
In one of my CK2 Geheimnisnacht playtroughs, I played as middenland and quickly absorbed Nordland into the fold, but then my coastline was plagued by raiders from norsca. So I set sail to remove norse from the premises.

I conquered Norsca in the name of Ulric before unfying the Empire.

How do you outfit your Captains, fellow Imperial players?

so elves do menstruate?

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>>51896021
I see no reason why since they are mammals compatible with humans, and "moonblood" can mean only one thing.

>>51896067
>why not
fix.

>>51896067
since when are elves compatible with humans in fantasty? I did not see a single half-elf ever.

>>51896110
Gilles le Breton and Lady, Gotrek and Felix novels.

>>51896122
Lady is not an Elf, she's a Goddess

>>51896150
She is magically supercharged elf that achieved godhood its like saying Sigmar is not human but belongs to other race.

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>>51896169
i cant argue with this cause i cant find a source of her origins. But nonetheless she is exception that proves the law, she probably used her god like level of magic with Gilles. No ordinary elf could do that.

>>51896226
>goat lover
fucking muslim elves

>>51896226
>the frightened of loud noises
>the pointlessly tall

>>51896226
>like children coming up with bad names

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>>51896522
>Thats a grudgin'

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>>51896226
Lanklets get out, REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!

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>>51896809
What's gonna be my name?
Mr meanie? Poop eater?

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>>51897097
Now listen here ya Elgi ploughin shite, Besmirching the Grudge is a Grudgable offence!

Imma goin Find some of them them beardless bastards, cut of their fookin knifey arsed ears, put em all in big pewter bowl, pour some milk over it, and RAM IT DOWN YER FOOKIN THROAT!

>>51897177
I bet you read that text out loud and jerk off to that pic.

>>51897206
>posting a stock butthurt respons to some in character fun

-20 xp there anon.

>>51897177
>Imma goin Find some of them them beardless bastards
4chan musst be a complete nightmare for dwarves to browse.

>>51897278
>someone said something not so positive about dwarfs
>I have to play le whacky midget and call him the bad dragon age insult
Post the youtube video while you are at it. I bet you have the tab open all the time.

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>>51897097
>Alright listen to me you knife eared piece of shit, if you go any further with your piss stained pubic hair you call a wig, im gonna wreck your shit so hard that you wont even be able to walk with you limp dick. im gonna shove my foot so far up your shaven perfect little ass that your breath is gonna smell like shoe polish! then im gonna take that little red anal bead on your belt, and push it in your face! im gonna flagellate you with my fucking beard! im gonna build you a pair of runic mechanical balls, and use surgical precision to sew them to your groin where your manhood ought to be just so i can kick them with my iron fucking feet you twat!

>>51897703
>Alright listen to me you knife eared piece of shit
>implying I am an elf.
>Implying only elves make fun of dwarves behind the backs.

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>still no morrowind style first person rpg set in the warhammer fantasy universe
>vermintide is literally the best we've got and it's just a horde hack and slash

>>51894347
does that hurt your feelings?
To be fair, there were a red-skinned subrace of humans in the New World in older fluff. They formed the main slave base of Naggaroth

>>51894674
>implying that the gift of chaos is somehow lesser
they have been elevated by the Dark Gods, Anon. There is nothing lesser in having shed the weakness of humanity for the strength that rests in the Beast

>>51894674
>>51895611
It's called men of fur thankyouverymuch..

>>51897843
>Implying Vermintide is anything but god-tier

I hope they invest in bringing a new set of baddies to it in future, but hell have I had fun on that game. I wish you could change the AI setup, though. I play with two friends and we quite like our private games, but always end up with Sienna due to our comp (Kruber, Kerellian and Bardin), who is without a doubt the most useless AI companion.

Can anyone school me on how to state troops?

>>51897997
I love Vermintide! I hope they make more DLC and it'd hopefully be more than 3 maps. I'd like a new character or more types of Skaven to fight.

>>51896226
>No ordinary elf could do that.

Like the guy mentioned, in the G&F novels they meet an especially lecherous slayer who hastily explains that the stories of him banging two elven women at once are greatly exaggerated - there was only one elf, and she was a half-elf.

>>51898212
He could have lied to save face.

>>51897206
...you didn't?

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>>51898267
>he could have lied

>>51891906
Spread of the cult of Ulric. More migrating Norse to the south, thus an influx of fine soldiers.
Less raiding.

>>51897997
>>51898165
I mean, I don't dislike Vermintide. It's great at what it does but hack and slash games have never appealed to me.

For me, the dream would be some kind of hybrid of isometric and first-person RPGs, with the role-playing and party management elements of the former with the first-person perspective and visuals of the latter.

>>51898575
I'd love an rpg made by the same people as vermintide. It looks great and they paid a lot of attention to the details.

For now I'll just have to pretend that the Witcher 3 is set in the old world.
Which is remarkably easy.

>>51896226
>the long-nosed
>
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3

warhammer dwarves are best dwarves!

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>>51898719
>I'd love an rpg made by the same people as vermintide. It looks great and they paid a lot of attention to the details.

Me too. They really got the atmosphere of the Old World right.

>>51899203
The dialogue, too, is excellent. Everyone is in character and the performances by the actors are fantastic.

>>51899203
I love the look of empire houses.

>>51899369
I agree. The banter between characters is great.

I was playing Pillars of Eternity recently and the characters are rather bland. A game that plays like PoE but has characters as memorable as the ones from Vermintide would be excellent.

>>51899203
Great image! Definitely saving for if/when I have the means to construct a Mordheim board.

>>51899650
>I was playing Pillars of Eternity recently and the characters are rather bland

thats because they were more worried about injecting sjw identity politics into the game instead of making a good game

coincidently the only good character is a straight white male priest

Ey guys, I found this Ogre Kingdoms Armybook, but is incredibly good, almost as if it were the version to print by GW, here is the link I found.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/v7r9jbxc0q53uts/Reinos%20Ogros%20%5B8ED%5D%20%5BENG%5D%20%5BMaquetado%20original%5D.pdf?dl=0

My question is, does anybody know or have the same high quality versions of armybooks, or even 40k codexs, etc? The ones in the generals arent usually THIS good...

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>>51899203

>>51899918
yeah, a problem that plagues the industry
just look at the new Baldur's Gate and the backlash people got for pointing out that the trans character appears to be out of place

>>51898165
I would like to see a very unorthodox Sigmar priest

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>>51900509

>>51900662
My favorite part of Ubersreik is the absurdly overbuilt bridge. Really gives a lot of character and informs the dwarfen-Ubersreik relationship.

>>51899918
I've played it quite a bit and haven't noticed any identity politics so far.

>>51900766
>Not gonna lie, former Trump voter here. This is fucking hilarious watching Trump crash and burn. But in all seriousness we can't let this guy get the nuclear codes.

>>51900633
I want a Night Goblin with instead of a ranged weapon, they get a net that can trap Skaven (including rat ogres and it stops ratlings from firing).

>>51900842
I don't put it past Josh Sawyer, but I haven't noticed it. Can you give me some examples?

whats the market like for Tomb Kings now they are discontinued? Looking to sell off a pretty hefty army and it looks like they aren't particularly wanted in AoS.

>>51900886
the archetypical white male paladin is a fucking black female tranny furry for one

>>51901053
She hasn't joined my party yet so I didn't know she was a tranny.

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>>51900509
The problem with WHTW is that it doesn't convey the bleakness that a game like Mark of Chaos did. It's slightly more cartoony. Also the voice actors for the most part suck, especially the norsemen who should be throthing manly monsters instead of normal men. Vermintide is excellent though.

>>51891699
So, im working on a female Battle Mage of the Amehyst order mini as a hobby, when a thought came to me; Is there any reason why battle mages dont wear armor into combat. For some, it makes sense, since Bright mages need more range of motion, and Amber Brotherhood would probably dislike it, but why wouldn't colleges like Light wear it? Even the Gold college only wear a few armored pieces.

Also, would any one have any good sources, or stories on the Magical Colleges? After reading through the lexicanum and Fandom wiki pages, I've really fallen in love with that bit of the lore, and I want to read up about the Magical colleges

>>51901360
Did elven ladies looked cute in that game?

>>51901360
I agree that TW:WH isn't bleak or atmospheric enough. I still like it, but the music and visuals just don't convey grimness at all.

>>51901418
Shame that the mods aren't more extensive in their capabilities. An import of mark of chaos's music + a dark filter could go a long way.

>>51901360
I think part of it is because, despite being on the edge of war, invasions from the north or the vampires haven't actually happened yet. I think it does a good job of portraying random Orc Waaaghs or beastman raids, though.

>>51901242
IIRC it's just some line about how members of her order are legally male because they are expected to devote their life to the cause of her homeland. It didn't really stick in my mind, though I guess people have different levels of sensitivity to that sort of stuff.

>>51901395
The main rulebook of warhammer fantasy mentions that armour interferes with the complicated motions of casting spells a la DnD, so the most wizards can't wear armor, with a few exceptions like chaos shamans and vampire etc.

>>51901471
You'd think a breastplate or a leather jerkin would be fine.

>>51901471
Gotcha. Although, like this anon points out;
>>51901494
It seems a bit strange that they wouldnt even bother with simple protection, but some colleges consistently wear long, flowing robes. Although I suppose once again, that it depends on the colleges. I was thinking of giving my Mage a helm, and chestplate, but leaving her arms bare.

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>>51901453
There's a SweetFX mod that makes it look a little grimmer, anyway.

Doesn't fix the music, though, which is a bit too heroic or neutral sounding.

>>51901614
At least TWW is certainly not DOW3.

>>51901418
Warhammer Fantasy Battles is not a grimdark setting. It's as bright as warcraft.

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>>51901729

>>51901471
that's got a lot of historical precedence. That exact situation is a thing in Serbia, China and the reverse was the case in one of the Ancient South American civilizations, not sure which anymore.

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Are cavalry halberds a real thing? I know it's a stupid thing to ask here, but I can't find anything definite on a google search, and WFB is the only setting I know off of the top of my head that ever mentioned them.

>>51901806
>>51901729
He's right tho, WHFB became grimdark after Storm of Chaos was retconned, so when it was already cancerous.

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I'd recommend reading the short story 'Who Mourns a Necromancer' by Brian Craig.

Not only is it a more humanizing look at a practitioner of necromancy, a fair portion of the story is phrased as a presentation of an argument, with a final rebuttal to it by another character, which has a fantastic effect on catching a reader off-balance. And it's all the more interesting when you know the emotional stakes of both characters making the argument, with the ending leaving things up to reflection.

It also has some minor interest in mentioning a University at Gisoreux.

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>>51901729
>>51901891
Grim is not the same thing as grimdark. Warhammer billed itself as "a grim world of perilous adventure" back in 1995 with the release of the first edition of Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay. The tagline for the cancelled Warhammer Online was "it's no fantasy" and the developers declared their intention to present the Warhammer setting "in all it's dark and gritty glory." Warhammer Online entered development in 2002 and was cancelled in 2004, the same year Storm of Chaos took place. Warhammer is not at all bright and it was presented as dark, grim and gritty long before Storm of Chaos took place.

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>>51901891
>He's right tho, WHFB became grimdark after Storm of Chaos was retconned, so when it was already cancerous.

Oh wow.
I'm sympathetic to the argument because 5th edition was somewhat different tonally. But I distinctly remember people complaining about the exact same thing before the Storm of Chaos.

And Warhammer has always had a dark tone. The exact degree is up to debate, but it's stupid to think that it was ever just lighthearted.

>>51902750
>chandelier made of human skulls
>"as bright as warcraft"

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>>51902820
Practically a cartoon.

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6th Edition question on wizards.

Is there ANY reason to mount these guys?

I asked this in the last thread and a bunch of people said no, just wanted a second opinion if there was some secret I was missing.

I seems like you would always want mages on foot hanging out within 5" of a friednly unit so they can't be targeted by missiles/spells all while slinging their own.

Even if they were the Army general!

>>51902999
Maybe with Bretonnians and their damsels? If you keep them on foot that resigns them to a peasant block.

>>51902999
If your units are mainly cavallery, you might want to have a mounted wizard, since it can be difficult to keep them within the range of your units.

>>51898212
Weren't they goblins, not elves?

>>51901860
Presumably no.

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>>51901360
>>51901418
It's probably due to the time the game is set in. Sure, the setting is grim and always is pretty grim, but the End Times and major invasions from the north haven't happened yet, so the game leans towards a more 'unsettling but not absolutely chaotic' feeling

Also, the sound design is astounding. Hearing my marauders actually yell 'SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE' while charging in is awesome, as I didn't expect that at all

Now if only there was a 'FOR SIGMAR' chant my Reiksguard yell while charging in (or is there?)

>>51903563
I haven't played enough with the Reiksguard to say - I know there's plenty of prayers to Sigmar, Ulric, and Myrmidia at various points. Lots of fun little dialogue lines.

>Keep [someone's name] back; I promised his mother.

I enjoy that there isn't much background music when you're on the campaign map, just some vague horns and other sounds. I can't honestly remember much about the battlefield map music.

>>51902820
Have you been to the Undercity?

>>51903671
>undead theme zone
>same thing as death imagery absolutely everywhere

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If anyone is interested in some Oldhammer models, there's going to be a Kickstarter soon for some keV Adams Hobgoblins.

>>51901409
They looked like proper elves

So no

>>51901395
I recall that metal, unless it has been previously enchanted, messes up with the flow of the winds of magic, making it too risky to wear, so wizards are restricted to wearing robes or pricey magic armors

Exceptions being Vampires, who are inherently magical beings and as such, can wear mundane armor and cast spells, and Chaos sorcerers, whose armor is made with magic as one of it's components (and possibly dwarf runic armor, but stunties can't into magic)

>>51901860
No

Then again, humanity has never had to face giants, so they may be a reasonably useful weapon, of course, not with a shield, that's for sure, no way to swing a halberd with one hand

>>51903167
No, elves.

>>51901860
No. But a similar thing was used from elephant back.

>>51904742
Weren't goads more for pokin' the elephant to make it go the right way?

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>>51901860
On a google search, apparently the Chinese used a couple different kinds of polearms from horseback, with blades and spikes, or even flails - they weren't technically halberds, but could be used in a similar manner.

They might just be used in Warhammer with Demigryphs because they're so fucking huge, and wouldn't make use of cavalry charges like more traditional horses.

>>51891906
I have accepted the Geheimnisnacht Mod scenario as my headcanon where the majority of norscan tribes are not ravening chaos cultists but just follow the old gods pantheon and raid the south for Loot, not because "the dark gods demand it hurr durr".

Also I like the plethora of tribes, religious cults and infighting that's present in ck2s mod, gives Norsca a soul, unlike TW WHs version. it also does the Chaos Tribes in the wastes very well, it's more fitting for them to be infighting nomads and short lived, unstable warbands.

>>51905026
>Geheimnisnacht Mod

It's so great.

I want an official Crusader Kings: Warhammer game.

>>51892427

kek

>>51895841

I wonder if these are the reptilian Beastmen that live above the Dark Elves?

>>51895957

I tend to keep them pretty basic since Empire characters are more support characters. Generally a shield, heavy armour and a great weapon since he'll probably be striking last anyway. That's it. I only run a captain as a BSB though. In that role he gets cloak of Ulric every time.

>>51905026
Fun thing I noticed with regards to the chaos tribes:
The Gospodar migration only happened in 1503. They're said to have entered Kislev through High Pass.

There's nothing across High Pass. Just Zorn Uzkul and more mountains. The only place they could have come from is the chaos wastes north of the Mountains of Mourn.
I quite like the theory that the Gospodars were originally a steppe tribe forced south and west by the growing shadow of chaos. That'd mean that the modern chaos tribes are like the Gospodars except that they decided to stay put instead of flee.

>>51901729
>>51901891

They cite Moorcock as a key influence in the first edition of WHFB. Warhammer has always been a Dark Fantasy.

>>51905685
I don't think it's grimdark in the same way that Warhammer 40k is grimdark, though. It's never been horrible all the way down.

>>51905827

Well it isn't 'grimdark' (I find the whole idea that this is a genera completely silly) but I was more responding to the idea that it's like WoW or other Tolkienesque fantasies. Really, Warhammer was a synthesis of Moorcock and Tolkien. Using the tone of the former and the framework of the latter.

>>51905827
It's grim and gritty dark fantasy, not grimdark.

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>buy Total War: Warhammer
>pirate CK2 to play Geheimnisnacht
>have more fun playing Geheimnisnacht than TW:WH

what did i mean by this

>>51906655
I don't know, I can't read your mind, faggot.

>>51906655

It's means your even more contrarian than every other cunt in this thread, which is really fucking saying something.

Does anybody here watch Miniwargaming's Fantasy battle reports?

I think the guy who runs the company is a total goon but the people who play the battles are alright.

Always makes me remember that Fantasy is still quite popular, also gives me a raging erection that they always get more views than the other game which shall not be named.

>>51901360
"NAGASH WAS WEAK, WITNESS TRUE POWER!"

VA is fucking amazing.

>>51906879

That's because they are braindead morons playing that game. Seriously, there's so much you can get wrong with such a short set of rules and each time these assholes show me they can go further. I still watch OWW but I just don't want to have my eyes bleed from the sheer amount of mistakes they make there, and I know quite a few who did the same.

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>>51897843
Have to say the detail on everything is wonderful.
Just love looking at the weapons with all their scratches, chips and dents.

>>51906655
Geheimnisnacht is absolutely great, and CK2 gameplay is really enjoyable.

I feel the same as you. Except I didn't pirate CK2

>>51906655
I like TWWH for the battles. But the Map and strategical/political components of CK2 are vastly superior.

>almost every empire province has it's own culture
>3 major religious groups
>Borderprinces are an actual clusterfuck
>Badlands are a clusterfuck of warring orcs
>khemri just chilling
>fucking Bretonnia, with working feudalism

and so much more, I don't h8 on te Total War game because it's certainly my goty 2016, but CK2 is just so adaptable, you can basically recreate any fantasy setting in it.

Still waiting for that Quenta Silmarillion submod to drop.

>>51910115
oh and forgot to mention, really like how they worked Skaven in, Creative Assembly should take a hint. The seperate maps with overlapping intersections works really well.

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First minis for my new kings of war army.

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So, me and some friends played Warhammer Quest last night, failed horribly and had a lot of fun doing so.

That's all I wanted to tell you.

should ogres becomes basic player characters in the next WFRP?

do ogres have layers?

>>51910115
I agree with this. I think I would love TW:WH more if they had made the campaign system more developed. Not even necessarily as complex as CK2, but at least a little more meaningful.

>>51896226
Caledor certainly rustled some jimmies.

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>>51910729
No.
They fit well. There's probably more Ogres in the Empire than there are Elves. They fit a different niche to the other races.

But they're also huge. If they're statted like the Ogres in the bestiary, they should completely dominate combat encounters. They eat vast amounts of food. They can't fit into most houses. And good luck being sneaky or trying to investigate anything subtly.

You really need to have written a campaign specifically to accommodate them. Which tells me that they shouldn't be a standard race.

>>51905355
Pretty much. The gospodar nope'd the fuck out while others accepted their new dragon dildo overlords.

>>51906655
That you should buy ck2 next sale.

>>51910115
>mfw still not able to found the mage colleges ahead of time

>>51911558
do you think people would protest at the introduction of half-ogres, or if western ogres were smaller than their eastern counterparts?

So what was bleeped out?>

>I'll ***** you! Then *********! And as Sigmar is my witness, ********* your soul forever!

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>playing Tzeentchian queen in Geheimnisnacht
>husband keeps having bastard children with daemons

>>51913875
Are the babies daemon, human or an unholy hybrid?

>>51905026

I feel like this is actually more canon than the ravening stuff. Everything I've read about it gives me the impression that typically Norscans range from "the show Vikings " to "Backup singers for GWAR". With the situation in TW:Warhammer with things being mostly consolidated being what you'd see right before a huge chaos invasion

>>51913890
Daemons that die immediately after birth.

>>51914007
Too bad Archaon and that nurgle's champion didn't.

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So what is it that came to Mousillon that has corrupted it? It seems like it can be pinpointed to the death of Landuin at least, but the death of Gilles seems to have been an important turning point for him. Can the cause be stopped, do you think?

>>51914284
It's hard to say, since I don't think it's ever explained in the lore officially.

I know that Total War shared a few Bretonnian stories, and one of them pointed to Laundin being jealous and bitter and delving into dark magics. But I'm not sure I can trust that, since it wasn't mentioned before CA at all.

>>51909081
>>51906879

It's a comedy series, and it's very clear that they are playing houserules at times (letting things fly etc.). However it's also the best thing involving Warhammer at the moment, considering AoS and 40k being so boring.

>>51915395
>I know that Total War shared a few Bretonnian stories, and one of them pointed to Laundin being jealous and bitter and delving into dark magics. But I'm not sure I can trust that, since it wasn't mentioned before CA at all.

In the army book, Mousillon was basically always somewhat corrupted, and Laundin was just an interruption to it.

>>51915825
In Knights of the Grail, it says that Mousillon was "always troubled by the undead," (probably a natural dhar trap), but whatever went wrong with it went wrong AFTER Landuin died, and there have been attempts before and since to prevent and reverse it.

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Why is necromancy set up as being in such opposition to Chaos? I like it, it's cool to have more than one 'bad guy' faction and have them fighting with each other, but Chaos seems like it'd work well with Necromancy, and all magic comes from Chaos anyway.

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>tfw you drive Vampires, Orcs and Norscan scum from the Land and lead a succesful Crusade into the Border Princes

Bretonnians are the most powerful race in the world.

>>51916845
I wish I was any good as CK2, it sounds like it would be a fun mod to play.

On a Total Warhammer note, did Karak Ziflin exist before the game? It's farther north in the Grey Mountains than Karak Norn, which in all the maps I had seen had absolutely no dwarven holds.

>>51916919
I think it's basically just a mining outpost mentioned somewhere, not large enough to even be considered a county.

>>51916796
I guess it falls into the trope that Vampires work for themselves and only for themselves, refusing to work for anyone else, worshipping anyone else (which means no chaos) and being the ambitious bastards they are, always manipulating everyone else.

Which is why they oppose basically everyone.

>>51916796
Because Chaos is born from the emotions and the souls of living sapient beings. Undead doesn't feed Chaos. Most of the top tier necromancers and vampires want to rule the world with mostly, if not all, undead subjects. If someone like Nagash wins then the entire world would be undead and the Chaos Gods would starve, or atleast be really mad that they can't play in this world anymore.

Undead are supposed to be "Evil Order" in contrast to the "Chaotic Evil" of Chaos.

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>>51916845
oh boy how could I forget to mention the glorious beastmen genocide of carcasonne.

drove those disgusting freaks into river.

>>51916796
Necromancy and the undead represent pure, utter stasis. Nothing grows, nothing changes, everything simply continues to exist trapped at the moment it was reanimated. It's the polar opposite of Chaos, which embodies anarchy and change. Even Nurgle is a god of life, of sorts - maggots and bacteria born through the death of others.

>>51910158
Gotta love datgame

>>51916985
Rather sad. I'm glad it's not just made up, but it's such a nice hold in-game, perfectly happy to remain peaceful or trade instead of declaring war.

>>51903692
>keV Adams Hobgoblins
Any mounted? I love wolf riders.

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>>51917360
> Any mounted? I love wolf riders.
Maybe. He made a few for the goblin Kickstarter he was on.

>>51917081
Chaos just has very little to offer to Vampires, they have eternal life, they have incredible physical strength without the threat of turning into a spawn at any moment unlike WoCs. And nurgle is basically straight up opposed to their very existance. Living Dead is somethin else than life from death mind you.

Similar how the Elves are quite resistant to chaos as they don't really need anything chaos can offer mortals. Only really slaanesh can get a hold of some and even those he has to share.

There's also the part where necromancers and vamps basically consider themselves gods, so there's that.

>>51918808
Why don't Tomb Kings give themselves up to Chaos, then? I know they're far away from it, but they're not in the state of undeath that they want to be, and I could understand them bargaining with Chaos to return some of their past glories, or to make their undead bodies more appealing, or to learn the secrets of undeath that will better preserve their decay.

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>>51893847
FUCK.
Warhammer is such a great fucking setting. It knows exactly when to bow to fantasy tropes and when to deviate.

Tfw campaign in Nippon that pits players against Beastment Kappa.

>>51918935
Tomb Kings have even more pride than Vamps, how could they ever serve some phony chaos god.

Hey so are there any really nice proxy options for Dark Elves? Doesn't seem like many companies are making them.

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>creating an incestuous dynasty of Tzeentch worshipers

This is fun, although it makes expansion difficult because you can only acquire territory through war instead of inheritance if you're always marrying siblings.

>>51919528
Such is the will of Tzeentch, is it not? Mere inheritance is stagnant, a mere switch of titles, but war brings change - constant change.

>>51906655
"The Beginning of the End Times", aka "Call of Warhammer" mod for Miedieval TW2 is superior in many ways to Warhammer Total War.

>>51919920
I've played both, and both have their flaws. The glaring flaws in the Medieval mod is that it still uses the old engine, which is clunky and full of bugs. The battles in Total Warhammer are much more energetic in my opinion, and in the end, Warhammer is all about the battles.

Once all three games are released I expect Warhammer to outshine BotET greatly, since all races will be finished.

>>51919990
Except for the ones GW doesn't like (Chorfs).

>>51920020
Except the Ogre Kingdoms are a thing, and expanding the map into the Darklands will make no sense if there are no Chaos Dwarfs present

>>51920020
>>51920064
Oh, and Chorfs are already in the game as models actually. They man the Hellcannons the Warriors of Chaos use.

Out of curiosity, what Empire province would be analogous to Swabia?

>>51920079
They were also included in a leak of upcoming DLC.

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>>51919990
Maybe I'm just a shitty player, but I feel like in Total Warhammer I'm just bashing armies together rather than getting a chance to use much strategy. Maybe because it's harder to get a sense of my units strengths and weaknesses, or the in-depth stats that I know they have. Maybe I'm too used to getting to sit back and wait on the defensive.

One thing I will say is that things like cannons and trebuchets feel fantastic, and there are some interesting mechanics that show CA can go beyond just historical stuff. I'm not good with the morale system, but it feels better than it did in Medieval 2 in a lot of ways, though it perplexes me how sometimes units will randomly break when they're far from the fighting. Magic adds some wonderful twists to battles, and the constant variety of enemies keeps things from getting boring. I also love the diplomacy, and how you're not more or less set in existing alliances like Empire, or have some factions going to war with you almost immediately like in Med 2.

I personally don't like how each city automatically has garrisoned armies, because oftentimes that will mean that I'm just gathering together a larger army so I can wait out an encirclement. But I can see why people would like that, and I like how waiting the enemy out now feels like a viable tactic.

>>51909081
>>51915600

They play it like Warhammer (and all wargames) should be played. They don't screw each other to the boards over tiny errors made three turns ago. Although the guy who presents it is a bit cheesy, he's always fucking min/maxing with his core.

>>51910158

Nice, Khorne? I think Chaos Warriors always look good in a metallic finish, I might do mine in a very very dark chainmail (almost black).

How are WoC in KoW?

>>51918977

Yeah, for me it has the right amounts of derivativeness from different source and originality all blended together.

>>51903692

Kev's busy these days, seems like every month he has a new KS. I wouldn't mind some for champions.

>>51920453
It was the first fantasy setting I ever got to know at all, so for me Warhammer Fantasy will always be the "classic" fantasy setting.

>>51920280
Not that poster, but they are above average, if not strong, and a popular army. Some of the best hammer units, a unique war engine... tons of great unit picks that aren't traps. Expensive points-wise but often worth it. Also, cheap to build/collect, by comparison anyway.

>>51920020

I think Creative Assembly has gone rouge, I feel like TWW was as much a love letter to the world as it was an attempt to make money. I get the feeling that they'll fuck GW off and make CD.

>>51920513
Like I said, there was a leak of upcoming DLC and it contained Chaos Dwarfs. It's going to happen.

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>>51920533

Kek, I meant rogue obviously.

That's excellent to hear. The only question is... will they have big hats?

>>51920112
sauce?

>>51920585
Hard to tell. They could have them or they could use the current Forge World designs.

>>51920601

My preference is a mix. Even FW acknowledge that the models they sell are not the mainstay of the CD army. They're some kind of forsaken CD or something aren't they?

>>51920599
http://totalwars.ru/index.php/total-war-warhammer-news/2576-total-war-warhammer-fb-dlc-and-expansion-pack-plans.html

This is in Russian, though.

The actual content of the leaks is quoted ITT:

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?732794-Total-War-WARHAMMER-What-factions-are-waiting-for-us-information-leak-about-the-upcoming-DLC-and-addons

>>51901860
>>51901860
From my understanding, pole axes were fairly common knightly weapons

>>51920682
Yeah it's more like a cavalry axe than a halberd looking at it.

>>51920649
I remember seeing that! It seems to be pretty accurate so far. If Tomb Kings are announced next then it's definitely real.

>>51913535
Fuck?

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>>51920726

> mfw GW grows a spine and re-releases the TK range as 'spoopy rattlers' to tie in with the game's release.

Does demigryph spam cross the line from fun list to cheese?

>>51920791
Where is Brettonia then?

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So do dwarf clans specialize in different fields of warfare?
Which holds have the best handgunners. Which holds have the best hammerers and which holds have the best cannons/warmachines?

>pic semi related.

>>51920843

TK had a load of new models that still look good. They could have pushed a button and had them rolling out.

Bretonnia would take a fuckload more work.

For the record though, I doubt GW will do either.

>>51920931
>TK had a load of new models that still look good.
I never did get why they didn't re-purpose some of those old models.

>>51920797

Yeah it's going to be very competitive. DGK are pretty much the best hammer in the Empire book and great even compared to other factions'. I don't take more than 4. 8 is like hyper competitive tournament time.

Has anybody here tried Zweihander?

Does anybody have a PDF?

>>51922183
isn't that freely available anyway?
or was that another alternative system?

>>51922359
I don't think it was freely available because I'm having trouble finding the PDF.

>>51921010

Purely a cost cutting exercise. GW seems to loose a lot of money on 'printing' models that sit in warehouses all day and take up space on the assembly line.

I'm sure they could have kept the sepulchral stalkers, tomb guard, warsphinx and a handful of characters on though. Like 6 kits would have saved them a lot of butthurt.

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>>51920930

King Alrik Ranulfsson of Karak Izor is a traditionalist who doesn't use Gyrocopters, Flame Cannons, or Organ Guns.

The 6th Edition Dwarfs Army Book lists a bunch of army comps based around certain themes on pages 78-80, such as the Engineer Guild Expedition and the Undgrin Ankor (Underway) Force.

>>51919143
Rumors have mantic refreshing their dark elf offerings....

>>51901395
You need foley, baggy clothes to feel the flow of the winds of magic, unless that magic is welling up from within like a vampire or your sculpting the magic with your sky daddies help (chaos, various non chaotic priests)

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>>51922519
Sorry for phone posting, but in case anyone was interested.

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>>51922701

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>>51922701

> (Choices, not models)

We have warmachine sign the likes of which even Grungi has never seen.

>Get Total Warhammer
>Dwarves keep saying "For the Wisdom of the Lair"
>Ponder for months what said Wisdom is.
>Figure out last week they were saying "Wisdom of Valaya"
So that's the Wisdom of the Lair.

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>>51922743
Same, I was so used to Bardin from Vermintide pronouncing it Vahl-Eye-Ya I couldn't even recognize the word.

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>>51922719
The 6ed Vampire Counts armyboom also had these.

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>>51922887
*Army book

>>51922519
>>51922701
>>51922719
>>51922887
thank you, these will be helpful for my mod.

>>51922898
>>51922887
>>51922701
>>51922719

6th edition truly was the highpoint of Fantasy.

I haven't looked through each 6ed army book, so I might have missed some things.

There were some 4ed army booklets for Kislev and Norsca published in Citadel Journal, if it's any help.

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>>51891699
Hey, whats up guys? So, I wanted to get some opinions on this conversion I've been working on. Pic related, its going to be a mortis Engine once I finish the reliquary, Necromancer and Banshees. Im also gonna work on some more highlighting for the Engine part as well.

>>51923732

Is that one of them lizard dinos?

>>51914284
In the 6th edition book it mentions that the slums and overcrowding made the city especially susceptible to plague and Vampire Count/Skaven schemes. Not 100% sure how Landuin is connected but i like the ambiguity.

>>51924286
There's a story, can't remember where it was from, that describes a scholar postulating that Landuin was so perfect that he literally sucked the goodness out of his surroundings, which left Mousillon with nothing when he died.

>>51924236
Yep. Although I suppose its more a zombie dino at this point.

>>51905299
In a interview with the designer he said that the idea was corrupted slann (the old edition ones) that went to the Chaos Wastelands to hide underground. Although it didnt quite catch on

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How deadly is the Wild Hunt? How much does it destroy, or how far afield can it go from Athel Loren?

Why are Wood Elves such rape in Total Warhammer?

>>51925130
It tends to stay somewhat close to Athel Loren and just about anything caught in its path are usually destroyed, either a simple hamlet or even a lord's castle.

>>51924967

I suppose they could be one in the same.

>>51923732

That's a really well executed conversion, I like the corpse cart sides you've used to make the harness for the dinosaur.

Is there any background on this? Is this like an undead Amazonian army or something?

>>51925261
Sort of. Im working on the background as I go, since im more a hobbyist, and I've only recently gotten into WHFB. But the general idea behind my army at the moment is based around Black Magister, formally of the Amythest Order, who has fled to Lustria, in order to escape the retribution of the College. Thus, although trained in the art of harnessing the winds of Shyish, she has little to no knowledge on the more introcate aspects of Dhar and Necromancy. As such, she has been having to improvise and experiment. The Mortis Engine, or as I've been calling it, the Mortisaur, is one of her more successful experiments, due to its reliquary being stuffed with Lizardmen artifacts, rather than a Necromancrs bones, thus keeping the Dinosaur animated.

Although the Black Magister herself is more gothic in style, the rest of the army is going to be more Aztec in theme, to represent her ongoing research and plundering.

>>51925421

Wow that's such a great theme. I wish Tomb Guard were still around, their head dresses looked Aztec. There's so much potential for undead dinosaurs riding black knights, pterodactyls for fell bats etc.

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>>51925421
That's real cool. You could also get some dead conquistadors and sailors if you ever run out of lizard ideas.

>>51925558

Cool model Marco Colombo, I'm using him as a captain for some Mannan's blades that have returned home from Lustria bearing gifts.

>>51901860
>mild places

>>51925558
Looks like Farneses brother.

Nuln plot hooks/ideas?

>>51926220
The Gunnery School is having a parade to show off its newest guns, but something goes terribly wrong and one of the machines explodes. After some investigation it is revealed that the machine was tampered with, as no engineer worth their salt would have made such a grievous error. Strangely, there is some kind of green dust among the wreckage.

>>51926247
Skaven trickery?

>>51926278
It could be a red herring, with the real culprit being a member of the Engineers Guild of Altdorf. The Gunnery School is Nuln's pride and joy, so seeing it embarrassed would be a hit against Nuln's prestige as a city.

>>51926303
That's great plot twist

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>hon hons soon

>>51891906
Growing trade with norsca would increase number of norse mercenaries in empire, maybe growing interest in their art among nobility. But it would also lead to more conflicts in norsca itself, isolationist shamanist factions would have try to cut-off the trade. It gives many fabular options.

>>51917119
one of my favourite things about kopinski's art was the reoccurrence of fucking massive castles in the backgrounds

>>51925130

In the Codex it is mainly directed against beastmen herds, so not so much for humans, although the occasional bretonnian settlement gets caught in

>>51922898
>Swains

>>51922887
>Von Carsteins bring human figters as they are legitimate rulers.


This is p cool.

>>51926460
Why the fuck do they release on a monday/tuesday?

Which mod?

>>51910323
Those rat ogre look more like Wolfen from Confrontation.

>>51922943
Peak Warhammer:

6th Ed. Fantasy Battle
2nd Ed. Roleplay
Mordheim: City of the Damned

You don't need anything else from Warhammer as far as the tabletop goes.

Nightmare ideas for a wizard apprentice that got in the way of black magister dabbling in necromancy?

>>51927189
7th edition core rules were a great iteration on 6th ed in my opinion. It's a pity that the armybooks for several factions were so op in 7th however.

For me, peak WFB is 7th edition rulebook, 6th edition army books.
2nd edition roleplay and Mordheim are definitley peak picks.

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>>51927091
Yeah, I always thought the fact that Sylvanias consider the Carsteins as their Counts was cool. The fact that they're, maybe, just as bad as your regular lord of the Empire, albeit for different reasons, so your regular peasants are like "well yeah the counts men come for the blood tax, but at least they keep the Beastmen and bloody Sigmarites out."

I'm guess I'm still enamoured with the idea of the Carsteins acting like actual Imperial nobility, even though they're undead monsters. If you've got a claim on the Imperial Throne, might as well act like it.

>>51925421
>>51925558
Seconding this, you can also include the existing lore from the Vampire Coast (a part of the lustrian coast controlled by at least one vampire and hordes of dead pirates). It's very canon. It even used to have rules for it in a white dwarf in 2005. I probably still have that WD

>>51927220
>WFB is 7th edition rulebook, 6th edition army books

Yeah I can get behind this.

AoS retcon when?

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About alternative armies

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>>51927776
Southlands lizardmen, tourney compatible.

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>>51927791
Sotek army from Lustria book.

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>>51927809
Special units and characters

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>>51927823
Nurglitch's army in lustria

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>>51927839
The rotten rat himself

Im going outside, if you want some other alternative lists - or partial translation I'll be back later

>>51927709

Never. Move along.

>>51927776
I'm not sure french is the ideal language to post scans of

don't we have scans of lustria in the OP anyway?

>>51927852
>if you want some other alternative lists
some from the white dwarfs? I know about the gnoblar force and hell pit armies but surely there is more.

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I hope the lore DLC will be released soon.

>>51928349
>still no Undead DLC
>still no Greenskin DLC
>still no Daemon DLC

Come on, lads. There's so many other great hordes in the setting.

>>51928209
I know but it's not like I have all that stuff in english anyways.

I have the undead pirates and the cairns army, maybe more

https://youtu.be/BVnu-X3SK_Q

>>51927231
100% behind you on that front.

It's kind of sad that that aspect of the Vampire Counts has sort of fallen by the way side.

>>51916796
If you go by WFRP the two are oppositional forms of dhar. Also Chaos is fundamentally about life, necromancy... isn't.

>>51905026
They do it for both IMO. The Norscan mindset is totally different to the Empire one.

>>51928530
>Playing this instead of ck2 mod or m2tw mod

>>51928713
Yes, the fact that he wants a functional and good game is a sign of degeneracy and he must be purged.

>>51927852
>Alternative lists in French
>No fucking Bretonnia.

>>51928758
>Functional, optimised game
>Games from CA after Rome 2

Pick one you bandwagoner.

>>51928758
The battles are fun but the campaign is too simplistic in my opinion.

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>>51928778
>optimised

I can't even play TW:WH anymore because it started lagging very badly during battles. It started doing this very suddenly and I have no idea why.

>>51928802
Do you know what term "pick" means?

>>51928784
That is 100% a fair assessment.
It's even true that the game has been simplified compared to slimmed down versions of previous game, like Age of Charlemagne.

>>51928778
Attila ran pretty well right off the bat, and honestly so did, and does, Warhammer.

I make no excuses for Empire or Rome 2.

>>51928813
I don't follow.

>>51928817
Attila was staggering and is staggering at large scale battles. The single fact that they kept the stupid 1v1 engine problem they are having (million duels in 4000 troop battle, enemies coming one by one like in some 90's action flick). Let's add up the lore inaccuracy cringe, normies playing it and butchering it on youtube "Hey it's genericyoutuber2000 here" and the fact that the animations are retarded like in some dragon age game. I'll pass.

>>51928823
Are you retarded?

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>>51928817
I liked Rome 2. It would be the perfect game if it had Attila's mechanics.
Still need to download the Rome 2 mod for Attila

>>51928841
I just don't know what you mean by "pick" in this context.

>>51928855
Seriously, if Rome 2 had had all the various improvements that Attila brought, as well as fucking working, it would've been the best game.

>>51928841
Dude the 1 v 1 thing is gone from Warhammer IIRC.

>>51928855
>Presented with two options, told to pick one
>Oooga booga doonno wot dat meens

>>51928877
It doesn't seem to be. The units still wander to the sides and it's covered up with shitty jumping up whoever and whatever you are wearing animations

>>51928878
Oh, I didn't read the last sentence of your post. I was just agreeing that TW:WH is not well optimized.

>>51928878
Meant to be this one >>51928859

sorry, >>51928855

>>51928884
Lords will just pick a place on the ground and punch it, so there's that.

The 1 v 1 thing was a function of their battle animations (The Shogun 2 ones were honestly cool as fuck), and since those have been reduced to punching the air in warhammer it's not as big a problem.

Lords will just straight up punch the fucking air.

They still do the pirouettes looking for enemies though, but that honestly just kind of makes sense.

>>51928560
It's a cool relationship to have with he Empire other than "bump in the night", at least for the VonC. Wanting to be accepted by the nobility, but unable to do so without corrupting it with their own agents. They hate and scorn the Empire, but also need it to fuel themselves and their self image. Classic vampire parasitism, really.

>>51928997
I think to a certain extent it's also interesting how that conflicts with the Lahmias who integrate more easily into society by eschewing the need for social acceptability.

On a completely different note:
I also wonder how Lahmias would do in Bretonnia.

>>51929173
I think the Damsels would be able to weed them out. But I bet they're all over Tilea, Araby, and Estalia.

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>>51924286
>>51924355
On the other hand, here's another idea...maybe Landuin is in some way to blame, personally. Consider Merovech for a moment; the old army books note that he was once a pretty noble figure, but that sinister advisors helped lead him into real madness and barbarity.

We know Landuin was never the same after Gilles died, and perhaps this occurrence of 'sinister' foreign advisors is older than Merovech. Perhaps someone gave Landuin the idea to try and create an artifact that would be powerful enough to bring Gilles back. Perhaps it was even the Bloody Grail, now slowly sucking the life out of Mousillon to feed its own abominable thirst. I mean, Landuin, Maldred, and Malfleur all died mysteriously in the ducal palace of either no apparent injury or mysterious wasting.

Why did Warhammer Online shut down again?

>>51927204
Please?

>>51929828
Return of Reckoning is for you pal

>>51927231
Their NORMAL taxes are quite low, too. And while occasionally you lose a peasant to the blood tax, most of the time a vampire need not feed for more than a pint or so.

First off, let me thank yall for being so awesome.

>>51925527
>Undead dinosaurs riding black knights
I think I just got my next idea thanks to you. Considering how cheap Black Knight bits are, and how the Dino riding kits being sold off from the SC sets, I think that may be my next conversion.

>>51925558
I was actually thinking of picking up some Conquistadors from brother Vinni, to either spruce up as undead, or use as soldiers that helped the Black Magister escape from the Old World. They make some really, really good spanish soldiery, and I definetly plan on picking up their duelist mini.

But, im still trying to think up a back story for my Black Magister, and her reason for falling from the order. Some thoughts I had include her acidentally animating the dead mid-battle, in order to turn the tide of a battle against some foe, or in order to accomplish some great feat. Im also debating on her reaction to her own falling.

>>51927622
After doing a bit of reading about the Vampire Coast, im not sure about how well she would take to it. On one hand, its relatively safe place for those fleeing the Empire and Colleges, as nobody would be willing to come near it. On the other though, setting up shop in the coast means servinf the reiging count there, and the Magister would be well aware of the dangers and restrictions a Vampire lord would apply.

I was personally thinking about her establishing herself in the ruins of a Temple city destroyed by the Norse. Gives her access to plenty of bodies, has little presence of other factions, and it allows her to study the Lizard Men's runes and knowledge without too much intrusion.


I really want to work in Amazons at some point, as well as undead Lizardmen themselves, but at the moment, Im trying to come up with conversion ideas them selves.

>>51929828
It was part of the "World of Warcraft Killer" phase when developers all gambled on making an MMO to beat WoW, usually by making games only slightly different from WoW. It didn't work.

Sad irony is that Warcraft started out as not!Warhammer and now Warhammer: Age of Sigmar is not!Warcraft.

>>51929828
It was a bad game (shitty, lazy WoW ripoff) and then EA bought it to cancel it because it was beating TORtanic.

>>51930116
>EA bought it to cancel it because it was beating TORtanic

Really? Jesus Christ.

>>51929972
>But, im still trying to think up a back story for my Black Magister, and her reason for falling from the order. Some thoughts I had include her acidentally animating the dead mid-battle, in order to turn the tide of a battle against some foe, or in order to accomplish some great feat. Im also debating on her reaction to her own falling.

"Well-intentioned extremist" will get you more mileage, I think, than "complete accident." I'm not even sure you'd be expelled for your theoretical mishap. Certainly interrogated and placed under observation, probably punished for risking the College.

The PCs are (long term) on the tail of a black magister in my own game. He was a life lore wizard, who delved into chaos lores in an attempt to understand and counter the effects of crop blights. It looked like he'd pulled it off, too...until people who ate of that particular bumper crop started literally rotting from the inside out. He turned himself over, absolutely horrified at what he'd done, but when senior magisters started talking about Pacification, fled for parts foreign.

>>51930036
Only that it doesn't really resembled with each other. But hey, let's just nod and say it does.

>>51930116
>>51930036
>>51929865
What makes Age of Reckoning different this time around?

>>51930221
>Only that it doesn't really resembled with each other.

Is English your second language?

>>>51930221 (You)

Fourth, actually. So you can imagine I'm bound to botch it whenever I go fast and can't be arsed to check spelling... which is like 99% of my posts in 1d4chan. At least I'm not a filthy slav.

>>51930307
Back to /pol/, fag.

>>51930339
Projection much? You may enjoy a good dicking on the ass but I prefer females, thank you.

>>51930372
You were projecting about slavs, son of whore.

>>51929972
>On the other though, setting up shop in the coast means servinf the reiging count there, and the Magister would be well aware of the dangers and restrictions a Vampire lord would apply.
Luthor Harkon is almost never sane tho. It's not like he can plot anything. You can even have her his second in command or anything.

Anyway that's an idea

>>51930407
slavs are filthy subhumans who get raped by chaos in warhammer too, anon.

>>51930407
Because everyone and their mother jokes about slavs not knowing how to write english, god danged autist.

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>>51930517
Keep projecting, basement dweller.

>>51930552
>can't take a single ounce of banter without shouting about the /pol/ boogeyman
not the same person, but rule 3 does say not "keep /pol/ in /pol/," and the only one projecting racist tendencies is you.

>>51930603
You know how to twist everything round, pal.

>>51930169
>Really? Jesus Christ.

Not really. The game was basically dead by the time it shut down.

>>51929946
True. Drinking someone dry is rather rare nowadays. The worst offenders are dead already.

>>51931854
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>>51931854
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