EDH General

>>51886490
>When do you concede?
When I'm beat, basically. If I realistically have an out, I'll fight on, but if it's clear that I'm dead, I'll scoop. If me scooping fucks things up, I'll clarify that I'm scooping post-whatever, but picking my stuff up now to save time.

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FUCK YOUR LANDS

FUCK YOU

Ok, alternative question
What's the most specific hate card you put in a deck and who in your meta forces you to use it

>>51886490
>When do you concede?

I try to play things through most of the time. But when a player goes "Infinite, get a billion mana and cast all of my spells over and over again forever gg" that's the time I concede cause that's fun for exactly one person and I'm not that person.

Fuck the banlist.

>>51886543
Meddling Mage.

Relentless Rats.

>>51886543

I have a bunch of Graveyard hate because too many people I play with constantly do some sort of Graveyard recursion whether it's Tasigur or Meren or whatever. Nobody else has seemed to pick up on this fact, but maybe I'll make a "Fuck you and fuck your Graveyard" deck at some point.

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>>51886490
When its least beneficial for my opponents. Before combat damage causes Sword of feast and famine to trigger etc.

>>51886543
Nothing, everyone plays really predictable decks with nothing really fringe.

Also, POSTEM.

>>51886490
I concede when the game is over.

If a player can demonstrate an infinite loop that wins the game that turn, and everybody passes priority with no answer, in out. I feel like this should be obvious, but I've played with some guys who go infinite who say they won't use it to win. Then they inevitably get salty when they lose.

Storm annoys me the most, because you can never concede. Victory is never certain.

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Which one should I pick for pauper EDH Kaladesh deck? Also is anyone playing this format right now? Have you tried it?

>>51886588

I get the mage, but how are relentless rats a hate card

>>51886543

Golgothian Sylex with Mirrorweave targetting a creature from antiquites.

One of these days I'll do it.

>>51886638
Winding constrictor most definitely

>>51886641
They aren't. Mage was a hate card for the Relentless Rats player.

>>51886638
Just kaladesh block cards? Snake by a mile.
Second is brawler.

>>51886662
I love you.

>>51886490
>When do you concede?
Only If I have to leave suddenly. Happens a lot on MTGO because its a shitshow. In paper I've conceded a few times due to time restraints but never scooped until defeated.

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>>51886627

>>51886646
With Living Plane out right?

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>>51886627

In 3-4 days I should have what I need to finish Lazav, Kalitas is going to have to wait for the chinaman, there's no fucking way I can afford Lili of the Veil and it's not going to get reprinted in MM17 anyways

UR is your usual spellslinger deck, I tend to alternate commanders between Jori-En, Mizzix and Melek without changing much

Mayael is more flavorful than anything else, big beasts and ramp

Yidris is storm + wheels, I haven't really decided where to put the focus. I like using wheels a lot but I could just build Nekusar for that

Newzuri is counter degeneracy


>>51886662

I'm dumb as fuck

>>51886669
To be fair, it's because the guy was a filthy cheater who still couldn't win, and sticking a Meddling Mage in the first few turns just made him ragescoop and saved us his whining.

>>51886707
You're not dumb, you were just mistaken. It happens.

>>51886669
As many Kaladesh cards as possible but I will probably just use Tarkir lands and keep the rest Kaladesh. Shame that there are not many black energy-related cards

>>51886638

S N E K
N
E
K

>MaRo keeps posting how we'll never go back to Kamigawa over and over

Fuck you MaRo, I'll never get my multicolored Legendary Samurai.

>>51886749
Those things aren't at all exclusive. Kaseto is from Kamigawa, after all. While there's probably not enough shit to revisit Kamigawa as a full set, I can absolutely see them releasing things 'from' Kamigawa in supplemental sets.

>>51886749
Maro is a liar. They'll return to kamigawa in the next ten years.

>>51886779
>>51886787
>yfw return to kamigawa is cyberpunk themed, but based around magical tech instead of actual tech.

>>51886490
>When do you concede?
Neva

>>51886807
Samurai Jack block.
Be still my heart.

>>51886807

>Magic Tech Cyberpunk Shinto Samurai and Ninja

Yes, yes. I would play that.

>>51886543

All my black decks include Bojuka Bog. And the cause is obviously Meren.

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>>51886901
>>51886897
>>51886807
>People of Kamigawa somehow managed to possess Kaladesh technology but after encountering phyrexian attackers they developed it in a different way

Who's the better commander for an orzhov lifegain deck, Kambal or Oloro strictly in the command zone?

Here's the pros and cons imo

Oloro
>costs no mana
>difficult to remove since he's not in the game
>gains life consistently
>printed in the brilliant commander 2013 set

Kambal
>costs 3 mana and 2 more on each following cast
>easy to remove
>sometimes gains lots of life, sometimes none at all
>from some shitty conspiracy set

Thoughts?

>>51887090
>They develop mechas to fight increasingly powerful Horror Angels that Phyrexia throws at them

>>51887171
>conspiracy set
oops forgot he was in kaladesh, not in conspiracy 2. my bad

>>51887171
Sounds like you just want to hear the decision you already made come out of someone else's mouth.

>>51887171
Strictly speaking, oloro, but neither are particularly good.

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>>51886627
Marchesa ETB Abuse/Reanimator with a Zombie sub-theme
Anafenza Counters/Lifegain with some additional Graveyard hate.

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http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/zurgos-weapons-of-mass-destruction-1/

Looking for some advice, I'm trying to cut 3 things for catastrophe, obliterate, and ghostway. But I have no idea what to get rid of

What's the best way to deal with a deck that focus on stealing stuff?

>>51887294
Spellslinger. You don't have anything to steal, and they focus their attention on other players.

>>51887294
Homeward Path.

That, or honestly just have nothing worth stealing. The biggest hurdle for my Clone deck is when people beat me to death with mediocre utility creatures.

>>51887294
Homeward Path for any deck
Privileged Position/Ascetism if you're in green. or any other Hexproof nannigans

>>51887294
Distract this player attention with a bike

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-2/-2 doesn't really get a lot of creatures, right? I mean, this guy looks fine as a non-free sac outlet, but I don't really know how many things I'd be killing with him

>>51887294

threaten him with land destruction and do it anyways even if he doesn't get your stuff

>>51886638
The Winding Constrictor hands down. Sucker should be a rare.

Pauper EDH is pretty fun. The lack of wraths continues to be an issue though.

>>51886627
isn't braids banned?

>>51887188
Kami powered mechas?

>>51887537
>duel commander

>>51887470
you stack that trigger so with 3B and 3 tokens you can kill most critters and get death trigers.

>>51886638
How could I didn't notice this snaek-Meren synergy before

>>51886627
You're the worst kind of person.

>just bought a dirty mike and a gaddock teeg
Fuck ya! Which do I build first anons?

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/time-space-rhinoceros-1/

Hoping anyone can give advice on how to improve my Roon deck. Right now it's almost pure combo with some mild control elements, thinking about maybe changing it into a (possibly enchantment-based) prison/stax-y build that leads into combo instead.

>>51887622
What synergy? Meren doesn't have any synergy with the snek.

>>51888273
you get an additional experience counter

>>51888273
The snake lets you get extra experience counters so Meren can go into her big plays faster. Don't cry about it when the Atraxa player kills you with infect in one turn though.

>>51888286
>>51888299
That's what I get for forgetting there's a second ability on that snake.

Why do ppl hate simic commanders?

>>51888391
because UGx is the best combination in EDH
G has ramp
U has blue cards

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>>51888391
They still get flashbacks

Ban was completely unnecessary though

Post a picture.

Someone else recommend a commander based off the picture.

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>>51888441

>>51886638

I actually just built a snake pauper EDH. Hopefully I'll be able to test it out this weekend.

>>51888490
Mind to share the list?

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>>51887654
What do you mean? I like to think I'm an alright person.

>>51888391
Best ramp and card advantage. Mix it with black for the best tutors and second best ramp and card advantage and you have the best color combo in magic.

>>51888441
Pic related.

>>51888479
Kambal, Consul of Allocation
Because spells are bad and creatures are good.

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>>51888573
>Kambal, Consul of Allocation
>Because spells are bad and creatures are good.
>not Ruric Thar

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>>51888441

>>51888778
Niv Mizzet

Are we going to get 6 8's in this thread?

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>>51886627

>>51888849
What?

>>51887245
Lists nigga

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>>51888441

>>51886490
Does Smugglers Copter get added to decks often in EDH?

Missed it.

>>51888893
Not really. It's not terribly impressive as an aggressive beater in a format with 40 life (and frequently 3 opponents), and if you want it as a looter, there's cards that can just loot when you tap them, rather than needing you to tap a creature and then connect with an attack from a second.

>>51887599

I can stack them, sure, but seems a lot of things sacced to get one creature. It should be fine with dictate of erebos/grave pact though, as long as I wait for the trigger to resolve to see if they decide to sac what I targeted in the first place

>>51888778
Purphoros altered to be in soviet art style
>some one pleas epost pic

>>51888873
He was talking about the magic of repeating digits my newfriend
>>51888888
sadly we didn't get them

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>>51888620
>Dumb, inefficient, gruul 6 cmc brute.
>Not glorious orzhov tax man.
>T1 authority of the Consuls
>T2 blind obedience
>T3 Thalia, Heretic Cathar
>T4 Hokori
I'm sorry, but did you get a permit for that?

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>>51888996
I can hardly contain my raging boner right now

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>>51888441

>>51888942
Interesting, thanks!

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>>51889026
>I'm sorry, but did you get a permit for that?
Did you?

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r8 my sakashima deck

>>51888996
Is there a soviet version of the R soldier token too?

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>>51888891

demon tribal

>>51889065
Probably not. The one I posted was an Eric Klug alter, and ain't fucking nobody paying his prices for a token.

>>51889062
Not Enough Clones/10.

Also, a clone deck with no Conjurer's Closet?

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Hey silly bois can I play? ,':^)

>>51889083
Is there a high res alter of that Purphoros so i can at least print a stripped card?

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>>51889109
No :^)

>>51889092
so i add a metamorph and dance of many. what else is missing, senpai?

>>51888507

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/winding-constrictor-pauper/

It's still a work in progress. I need to add a few more things like Snake Umbra and the common cards with the Graft ability.

>>51889166
Probably not crazy high res, no. I pulled that from Klug's facebook.

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>>51889109

yeah sure

>>51889109
I don't understand the Atraxa hate.

>>51889212
WHERE YO BODY DOUBLE

WHERE YO VESUVAN DOPPELGANGER

WHERE YO GIGANTOPLASM

WHERE YO PHANTASMAL IMAGE

I play Kruphix. Is he a nooby commander? I've played like 15 commanders in the last 6 months and he's the only one who hasn't bored me after 2 games. I've been on him 2 months fwiw.

>>51889220
And that is why people hate you and your deck

>>51889219
This should have either been 1 CMC or an Instant

>>51889251
Buttblasted that your crunchy home brew gets annihilated by superior Phyrexian combos folded a thousand times over?

>>51889220
She lends herself really well to Superfriends decks, and basically outclassed any existing Commanders for that strat. The internet got immediately flooded with a ton of Superfriends builds of her, and a lot of people are grumpy that nobody's trying to do anything interesting with her. Every set of precons seems to have one Commander that has a rock-obvious way to build around it, and is also far and away the 'most popular' one of that set, so you see a shitload of same-y decks. See: Derevi, Prossh.

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>>51889275

It's fine

>>51889220
I think it's because it's fucking everywhere. Most people don't dislike carrots, but if literally everything they ate had carrots in it they would start to complain about them. Same idea.

I'm glad 4 color in general died a swift death in my meta, I think 3 out of 20 something people play any commanders from 2016 now (Jesus did that shit boom right after release though).

>>51889306
But muh isochron scepter

>>51889336
I know what you mean. Overnight almost everyone in my group had between one and five 4C decks, but that died fast.

>>51889249
do what you want and don't let others tell you what to do.

>>51889220
>Why do people hate atraxa?
Same reason people hate Derevi, Oloro, and Kaalia. They're precon commanders with way too obvious build arounds that attract scrubs. They attract players who think they can use them to build "the ultimate unbeatable deck!" They tend to build piles of garbage that fold to decks built by people with good deck-building skills and cry when they lose because "that way a really gay card. How am i ever supposed to win if you play that unbeatable card? Are you certain that x isn't banned?"

>>51889435
Don't forget that when they DO win a game, they act like they're the smartest fucking deckbuilder in the world for putting Doubling Season and a shitload of Planeswalkers into an Atraxa deck.

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>>51888589

>>51889057
>Unironicly using the attack step

>>51889336

I personally have yet to play against Atraxa, but that's definitely how I feel about Cyclonic Rift.

>>51886490
>when do you concede

I dont. I like to make people work for it and if there are others left at the table i will throw everything i can at the person killing me to fuck them over

>>51889625
Unless they have a hardlock and I know my deck has no responses. Even then I might stay just because I hate when people concede. Would rather grind it out to the bitter end. You never know what can happen to change everything.

I can't stop building Jund, is there a commander/wincon that would let me run Jund enchantress?

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>>51889782
Food chain prossh :^)
But on a serious note there's the all purpose tap commanders that let you regrow creatures and draw cards respectively

Or just get an elder dragon for flavor win

>>51886638
>pauper EDH
dafuq

Holy shit Maralen is cool as fuck. do games usually just turn into a find your best kill spell when she hits or do people tend to let her say for the tutor?

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>>51889963
>dafuq
Go the fuck back to Reddshit.

>>51889996
Sidisi is generally better.
>Tutor up Cabal Coffers
That's about it.

>>51887171
The added blue gives you enough pillowfort and control to fully dedicate your strategy to lifegain in Oloro, so I think that's better.

Kambal will draw less hype though.

>>51890128
Really? thats not even close to the same ability though

What's your Favorite mono color to play /edh/?

>>51890421
Personally Mine is red, even though I will admit it kind of sucks. I can deal with the lack of ramp but no tutors or good draw is really what kills it.

>>51890167
Sidisi tutors every time you cast her. Maralen tutors every upkeep, but you give each of your opponents a tutor before you get to tutor once. That's not worth it.

>>51890516
"not worth it"
My bad bud im pretty hammered, I like her for the crazy possibilites. I think itd be fun in a new playgroup or if you guys have some new decks, seeing their christmas wonderland coming to life slowly sounds fun as fuck.

>>51890421

everything but green. I find mono-green boring

>>51889996
I have never seen it survive to the maralen players upkeep. People either grab a kill spell or grab their own combo and end the game. The fact that you are last to use her breaks any notion that she might be useful.

>>51890530
Then fuck it, go with the elf.

>>51886627
Where's you get those nice top loaders? The only ones I can find are the clunky ones for baseball cards.

>>51890569
Those look like standard UltraPro toploaders.

The 'pattern' is from a Character Guard sleeve, which is a clear sleeve you put around a normal sleeve.

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>>51887294
If your deck uses green, pic related.

>>51890647
Oh I see, I didn't even notice the character guards. I was wondering what was making the cards fit perfectly.

>>51890680
It looks like they're triple sleeved in there, so that's probably why

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>>51890680
I'm pretty sure these are just the clunky baseball ones. I just triple sleeve the commanders like a faggot. I use them because it makes the card nice and centered.

>>51890726
Hey, it's better than the kid I saw playing a Standard deck where every card was in a toploader.

>>51890726
Nice, I refrained from using top loaders because I could never center the card, but now that I know what to do, my autism shall finally be satiated. Thanks anon.

Also, you got a rogue pubic hair in your toploader

>>51890739
Jesus, how did he even manage to shuffle?

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http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/impetuous-1/

I just threw this together. Can someone tell me how shit it is?

>>51890775
he didn't

>>51890651
If I own all the decks at the table and am lending them out do I get everything?

>>51890530
Why wouldn't they grab removal though and kill her ASAP. New doesn't equal bad. (Also if there Christmas land involves drawing cards she kills that too)

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>>51890797
Mana curve is pretty low, you could afford to put some more mana-expensive spells in there.

Since you seem to be doing mono-black aggro, pic related would be a good addition. Some sort of flicker effects on it would do wonders.

A Sheoldred would also look good since your creatures will probably be dying often with the attacking and inevitable blocking, so Sheoldred and Strionic Resonator keeps your boardstate beefy.

Also, Praetor's Grasp for fun.

>>51890797
Get living death out of your maybe board and into your main, you should also add twilight's call and and as many other versions of the effect as you can.

People are going to wrath you and your deck will sputter out and die.

Also try to jam in as much card draw as you can for the same reason.

>>51890979
because my playgroup is fun as shit and would rather tutor as opposed to drawing cards. we dont TYPICALLY play with commande damage on, so her kill clock is quite extended. Thats also why i asked in my first post, because i could see why people would immediately grab kill spells, though hexproof/shroud would stop that easily.

>>51890775
>Implying I don't know about it
>implying it isn't Saffi's

>>51890996
>>51891010
Thanks for the input, anons.

>>51891019
Oh, damn, you are so new and inexperienced you don't even know the rules yet.

Commander damage is combat only. Maralen triggers need not apply.

Whatever floats your boat man, I suppose you will figure out what your group really thinks is fun after you build it. Hope you don't have to take it apart after a week if the politics don't work as intended.

>>51891123
Do you not see that there is in fact a lighter more casual side of commander you spike faggot? I dont give a shit about tearing apart a deck, it takes an hour tops man. Its all good, I just figured itd be a fun thing to make a deck for.

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>>51891159
>Do you not see that there is in fact a lighter more casual side of commander you spike faggot?
Woah there, sperglord, calm the fuck down. Dude wasn't even saying anything offensive.

>>51891159
>Let's you know what the rules of a game are
>Is now a spike faggot

Damn you are retarded. I bet you run around telling people they can respond to mana abilities and morph too. Git gud.

>>51891240
>>51891238
Oh, damn, you are so new and inexperienced you don't even know the rules yet.
I know the rules ya fagtard, faggot is a lighthearted dig at someone not a real insult you sensitive motherfuckers. Not on tg at least.

>>51891258
Do you not know how to greentext, anon?

>>51891258
fuck im drunk and none of that made sense. eat my butthole you dickwipes

>>51889506
Vela ninjutsu

>>51891258
>Doesn't know how to green text either

Shit son, is there anything you do know?

>>51891284
im really drunk but
>yes i know how to greentext

>>51891258
>>51891286
>ya fagtard
>butthole
>dickwipes
>drunk
How old are you, anon? I'm going to guess 16 or 17?

>>51886638
smugglers copter and gideon

>>51891385
24 bro, but emotionally you hit the nail on the head

>>51891302
>just looked up how to greentext

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>>51886627

What commander should I use for esper spirits tribal?

>>51890931
no

Still in the process of obtaining cards, but my masterpiece is almost complete.

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/atraxas-big-tasty-beatdown/

Is there anything I'm missing? Anything I should cut?

>>51890726
Are you? Are you the anon with the quadruple sleeved EDH deck?

>>51891824
No

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>>51888441

>>51891414
Yeva, Natures Herald. You will be the mayor of value town.

>>51892207
Derevi, an astronaut stacker

get it, derevi flies, like an astronaut and he staxes

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>>51888441

>>51892462
>EDH partner mechanic

>>51891258
That's because Merelen's ability doesn't deal commander damage even if you're playing with it. Commander damage is only combat damage from a commander, not pinging lije hidegetsugo or lose life like maralen. That's all he was saying you sperg. As a turbocasual myself who plays Karn equipment tribal, let go of that chip you have in your shoulder that the big bad spikes are going to bully you.

>>51892307

>He

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>>51888441

>>51888391
Because they're hipsters. Same kind of people who stop playing certain characters in online video games after they get buffed

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>>51888441

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>>51892598
Sharuum

>>51888441

>>51892651
Kek, I already ran a Sharuum deck before actually.

For you, Gitrog

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>>51888441

Judge my shitty blacksmithing work!

>>51892685
Daretti Spaghetti, Never Forgetti

>>51892685

It's shitty! But it's functional (that's the point), and ya gotta start somewhere.

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>>51886627

In a deck building rut, and I retired Gwafa after a particularly disheartening loss.

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>>51892685
>>51892710
Don't forget to include this guy in the 99.

>>51892685
Slobad

>>51890421
RED
E
D

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Alright /EDHG/, my playgroup is using mass land destruction now, which means it's finally OK for me to put it in my deck. What do I cut from my deck to make room for Jokalhups?
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/10-10-16-marchesa-the-black-rose/#

Also, is obliterate a better option?

>>51892814
Can I get the Mayael list?

>>51890421
I've played all mono color but White, and Red is the most fun with decent variety, Black is stronger but a lot of potential for explosive plays or more grindy and stax-y, depending on what you like more. Blue is control/combo, if you're into that. Green is good if you like gruul but want to spend less. Colorless is overlooked though, except you're only two choices are Kozilek ramp and tempo, and monobrown artifacts, both very fun.

For me, Red > Black = Colorless >> Green > Blue, for fun rankings.

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>>51886627
Selvala Explorer Returned and Azami Lady of Scrolls are my WIPS

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>>51893294
Nice find anon

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>>51890421
I built mono-white voltron with pic related as the general and it works surprisingly well. It's also just good fun to suit her up and knock people out with one ridiculously overpowered swing.

>>51894015

having haste is pretty awesome on a fatty like this

>>51887470
Keep in mind you can give a creature that blocked another creature in combat -2/-2 to potentially kill it later.

That -2 to defense just got a lot more mileage.

>>51888589
Edric flying men

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/dj-breya-the-bass-cannon-best-edh-mix-2017/

Can anyone suggest the last cuts? I can't decide on it because I want to play every single card in there.

Most of the cards work really really well with the rest of the deck. Some others are cards that I drafted that I really like and are still good.

Maybe go down a tutor? I don't know.

>>51893493
Is that sum PJW

>sit down at a table with my slightly modified precon deck
>expect to be blown out by extreme combos, ludicrous cards, and all that shit
>instead, everything goes perfectly and I ramp into my victory conditions easily
>two of the players were brand new and one was casual
I'm the asshole at the table

>>51889284
>>51889435
>way too obvious build arounds
/tg/ is indeed bad at magic
Breya/Kynaios and Tiro are actually the ones you can build 1 strategie around.
Atraxa can do infect/superfriends while breya does artifact cobmo and kynaios and tiro group hug.
Saskia and Atraxa are actually the most interesting ones this year.

What direction would you take a Jenara deck? My first instinct is just Bant control while sinking unused mana into Jenara and beating people down, but I wonder if there are alternatives.

does jhoira work in multiplayer? you'd think the table would prepare to collude against you every four turns

>>51888874
Sorry, I was working.
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/k-i-s-s-f-r-o-m-a-r-o-s-e/
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/w-e-a-r-e-f-a-m-i-l-y/

>>51890421
Feldon of the third path, by far

>>51894992
She works just fine if you go the obliterate->Blightsteel route. Once you suspend a few things you just have to survive, then you can win.

So i decided to build Purphoros next.
Are there any money cards i should be aware of apart from Blood Moon, Magus of the Moon, Gauntlet of Might and Imperial Recruiter? I don't plan to include those for obvious reasons.

>>51895334

Caged Sun as a budget gauntlet maybe

>>51889344

It's fi- I actually never thought about that and the scepter is easy to protect with the fox

>>51895390

Strike that, isochron scepter is probably I only and I should go to sleep

>>51895334
what do you consider a money card? $10+?
uhhh... Valakut?

>>51895418
10$ is still fine by my standards, i'd say $20+

>>51894778
>I'm a contrarian hipster fuck

I've played 6 different Atraxa and they have ll been supper friends/+1/+1 counters. I only ever hear about those two or infect. I never actually see deck with jank counters like that one card where everybody ties if it loses all its counters. Always super friends.

C16 was a mistake

>get into a 6-man pod
>literal unending board wipes and board bounces
I thought a large game would be fun. I was wrong.

>>51895553
There's building the same exact deck 20 times, and then there's building a purposefully awful deck. If you wanted to build a deck that didn't use planeswalkers/ +1 +1 counters/ charge counters, or good random counters like divinity counters, then you wouldn't build atraxa

Those cards are just what she's for. It would be like building heartless hidetsugu with no damage doublers or Alesha with creatures with power more than 2, you can do it but there's no reason to

>>51895583
5 is the limit, and even then a table full of control is always miserable. It's like spice, cinnamon goes great with apples, but you don't want to eat a pound of just cinnamon.

>>51895553
literally the only one in my playgroup that has made an Atraxa deck and I went with a STAX build deck that uses her proliferate to abuse tangle wire and smokestack does that count? Probably not original but I have fun playing it when I'm not playing Savra or Wrexial

>>51894205
One of my favorite things is when I cast her and go straight to combat and people ask "where is Akroma getting haste from?" I get to feel like such a smug asshole when I tell them to read what she says.

>>51895587
i have seen couple of Atraxa voltron decks and they worked pretty good

Competitive EDH is more fun than casual EDH, because casual EDH tends to attract fun police who will whine that whatever beats them isn't casual. There is no such excuse in Competitive EDH. I highly recommend you try it out some time!

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>Yesterday, playing EDH with my playgroup
>We decide to do a 2 headed giant
>My team is Reaper king and Lazav
>Vs Prossh and Breya
>Literally against 2 combo decks
>Do my best to prevent my opponents from comboing off
>It's worthless, Breya can just win in response
>End up losing 3-0
>THREE - ZERO
>Wake up today sweating thinking it was just a nightmare
>It wasn't

Okay /tg/ I need secret tech to absolutely kill combo. My deck is white and black. How can I make them pay?

>>51895837
Like literally any hatebear effect.

>>51895837

Pithing Needle, Nevermore, Voidstone gargoyle, Null Rod, Cursed Totem, and Stony Silence

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>>51895856

Holy shit they're going to hate me for this

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>>51895837
It only buys you a turn but sometimes that's all you need, and the best part, they literally NEVER see it coming

>>51895863

Also Phyrexian Revoker

>>51895880

One question!! Can the Revoker target krank clan ironworks? it's supposed to be a mana ability, right?

>>51895997

Revoker stops all activated abilities

Anything that is formatted "Cost: Effect" is stopped by Revoker

Krank clan ironworks is formated "Cost: Effect" and thus is stopped by the Revoker.

>>51895997
Revoker doesn't exclude mana abilities, so yes.

>>51895997
Yes, but it's also an activated ability so it will prevent the ironworks from working. Just like null rod, stony silence

>>51895997
Just want to specify that Revoker does not target.

>>51895880
And damping matrix

>>51895868
I run that in my zurgo deck along with not of this world and rebuff the wicked


Nobody ever expects the white counters

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>>51896434
>Not of This World
>Rebuff the Wicked
But those spells suck, anon. You're far better off running pic related if you absolutely need the protection.

>>51886543
Torpor Orb, because it fucks half my meta up.

So, as a concept, I understand hatebears is no fun allowed: non-stax edition, but how the heck do you actually win? I've been looking through gaddock teeg lists and they all seem to be "durdle until you cast elesh norn/vorinclex/craterhoof". Can anyone explain this stuff to me?

>>51889023
MAGA, Traitor to Mortals

>>51889026
Kambal could have been red white.

>>51896588
>2017
>Not cantripping

Use Shelter you heathen

I'm thinking of building Shirei. She's very build-around though so I was wondering: How do you actually keep her alive besides the obvious "swifties greavsies" package of colorless protection?

Do you just put enough reanimation in the deck that you can afford to grave her after the 2nd time she dies?

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So, right now I'm running hope of ghirapur as a voltron commander, but I realised only 15 to 20 cards are directly relevant to voltron-ing, and all else is just ramp and utility to make a bad idea work better. What I would like to do is have a 15-20 card stax board which I can swap out for most equipment-centric stuff to be able to change strategies right before games.

Aside from even more mana rocks, what cards would make up a colorless 15-20 card stax package?

>>51886543
Jester's Cap, originally to weed out memnarch from a certain dude's 99, but now it's relevant against local combo players / people building around me.

>>51896821
>Literal taxing effect
>Boros colored

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>>51887470
Meh

>>51897076
Is taxing green then? Because ruric that exists. It's definitely in red with stuff like mana barbs and price of glory.

So what's the problem?

>>51897210
>Because ruric that exists. It's definitely in red with stuff like mana barbs and price of glory.
none of that is "tax" because it doesn't benefit you, it equally hurts everyone. the word you're looking for is groupslug

>>51897243

>none of that is "tax" because it doesn't benefit you

That's not how taxing is defined

Thalia, Guardian of Thraben is like, the defining Tax creature and she hurts everyone """equally""" as well.

>>51897243
That's what the white is there for, the lifegain portion. If there could be a red effect of "whenever a player casts a non-creature spell, each player loses 2 life" there could be a white effect of "whenever an opponent casts a non-creature spell, gain 4 life" you combine them and hey, that's kambul.

I still don't get why you don't think people taking damage and you gaining life isn't Boros. Shit, that's lightning helix. If you are worried about the trigger, every color has that shit.

i think the people who treat the color pie as immutable dogma are dumb nerds who don't understand flavor

there are a billion wotc designed cards that don't give a fuck about the color pie

niggers the solution is literally give kambal lifelink, and have him deal 2 damage on the trigger instead of drain two. boom he's fucking boros

>>51887171
>Oloro
Boring and not actually Orzhov.

>>51896641

Torpor orb is amazing.

I opened 6-7 packs of new phyrexia back in the day and my favourite rare is still torpor orb

>>51895741
> there are players that don't know what Akroma has by heart

Fuck that makes me feel old

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>>51888996
Fuck off marxist
>>>/Reddit/

>>51897687
Methinks thou doth protest too much.

>my friend is coming over today to play EDH
>yet again, I've realized my decks are going to be monstrously overpowered, baring magical christmasland or intentional misplays
What do I do about this anons? I'm thinking I play a game or two at sub-optimal pacing, then swapping decks so that he can play my nonsense.

>>51898194
throw together some janky monstrosity before he comes over and play with that.

>>51898225
Alright, how do I tell if my deck is around a precon's power level? I have a big black deck with no coffers/magus/tutors or any real wincons based on nuking the board and reanimating things with lim dul, but I think it's going to be super oppressive.

>>51898194
Build casually, play competitively.

It's never fun to play sub-optimally.

>>51898225
this, build a retarded theme deck and then continue to feel bad about yourself when you still crush your friend.

>I'm thinking I play a game or two at sub-optimal pacing
don't do this, the only thing that can make a person feel worse about being bad at a game is knowing your opponent is patronizing you

>>51890093
>FuckingCommies.jpg

>>51890128
>>Tutor up ad nauseum
Learn to ANT bro

>>51890797
Looks like a 1v1 list desu

>>51898283
>>51898294
This is good feedback, thanks anons. I was wondering, is feldon too serious for a casual list? I mean, I was planning on using things like Warstorm Surge, Where Ancients Tread, Hellrider and Five Alarm Fire along with some damage doublers to pull off the ol' reanimator nonsense. I was thinking if I kept my mana acceleration low, meaning a less-than-amazing ramp package and a large curve, it'd be a little more balanced. The precon he's playing is the W/B daxos one if that matters at all.

Alright folk, my meta has taken a dramatic upswing in power. I'm actually kinda excited to be able to play more powerful strategies, and I'm probably gonna overhaul my Melek durdlefest deck into Mizzix combo. Anyone got a good list, and is Paradox Engine the real deal in storm/spellslinger?

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>>51891258
>Be a newfag
>Expect to be treated with kidgloves
Wew lad

>>51898439
Feldon seems like a solid choice since his power is entirely dependent on what creatures you use. Avoid shit like Steel Hellkite and Zealous Conscripts and you should be good. Will also teach your friend to run grave hate.

>>51898467
Not this guy but I'm building Mizzix myself any must have cards in y'all opinion?

>>51898594
Reiterate enables most combos and is hilarious
Sphinx bone wand is a great finisher

If you wanna go storm, ignite memories is great

>>51898543
>Steel Hellkite and Zealous Conscripts
Glad you pointed those guys out. I actually was going to use them. Now what about stuff like Molten Primordial, Bogardan Hellkite and Stalking Vengeance? I'm not going to lie, I have a very mean deck planned, but maybe if I just hold off on certain big money cards, like Kiki-jiki and Seize the Day, it'll be fine, and I can slowly tune it as he amps up his power level.

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>>51892646
You are helping your enemies
Unless you are into that kind of thing ;)
Also it been weaponize draw

Hey /edhg/, I have a question about my decks.
I'm going through my decklists, and I'm having trouble choosing an identity for some of my decks. Some are pretty straightforward (Edric and UW/x enchantress voltron that I'm just starting), but two are giving me problems: Selvala, Explorer Returned, and Alesha, Who Smiles at Death. Both decks feel like they're trying to do a bunch of different things: they're both mixed in with hatebear cards, aggro cards, and both are trying to execute combos (Alesha with Anafenza/Redcap and Reveilark/Guide, Selvala with elves -> infinite mana -> mill everyone out with infinite draws/GSZ). Obviously the two decks approach these differently, but how do I give the two more identity?
I'm putting up the decklists on tappedout now, I'll reply with the lists when I'm done.

>>51892646
sauce on full image? [spoiler/]

>>51899145
Aw come on, this is MS Paint garbage anon.

>>51893210
First of I would cut something high to add another 6 drop your curve is already Pretty high
Do creatures come back even if marchesa is dead? Do you need to put counters on her for jokulhops to be profitable
If you do you may consider not including it

I wanna do a human deck. But with cards like collected company.

Is Abzan the best colors for this?

>>51895837
Don't play two headed giant
Aside from that sadistic sacrament is good, if you don't play a lot of instant enchantment/ artifact removal now is the time to start

>>51886543
Hum of the Radix - mostly because there are like two artifacts in my Mayael

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>>51899596
Bant might be better
I used to have a god of the polis human tribal deck and it was pretty fantastic

Won too much with commander damage though so I took it apart, probably the closest thing to an old school drawgo deck I've seen but also capable of winning.
Adding green would be a big boon, coco is risky but I like it. You could also include selvalas stampede and see the unwritten among other similar spells.
It will likely look/play like a control deck more than white weenie (unless you don't mind getting btfo'd by board whipes) but it's a good tribe in good colors, even in edh.

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>>51899731

>>51899692
Memnarch shenanigans.

>>51899731
Kydele, Chosen of Kruphix and Sidar Kondo of Jamuraa are both humans too, on to of Ragnar, and rafiq

I have made the very poor decision to start brewing a Chance Encounter deck.

Right now I have RW for Chance Encounter and CoPs for Mana Vault and enchantment tutors. Looking at commanders, none seem to synergize well in Boros, but Narset looks like it could work.

RB could also work. Need to look at the commanders available but any suggestions would be appreciated.

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>>51900378
You'll probably wanna be UWR, that gives you pic related to tutor for whatever coinflip instants you want and Change Encounter.

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>>51886627
>POSTEM.

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>>51888441

>>51900885
Noyan dar.

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>>51888441

>>51901057
Silas Renn

>>51901098
Kek, thanks anon I just might.

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>not a dragon

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>>51888441

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>>51901116
I mean he is the smuggest bitch in magic.

>>51900885
intet, the dreamer

>>51901057
>animemes shitposter
kalia

>>51901026
maelstrom wanderer

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Anyone else run Telepathy? Also, what is your favorite card to play (non-commander) that causes instant reactions from your play-group.

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>>51901191
I run it in Sen Triplets, it's great.

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>>51888441

>>51899169
Still would like that sauce

>>51901144
phelddagrif
not great but couldn't think of anything better
>>51901218
Mikaeus, the Unhallowed

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>>51888441

>>51901317
Narset, Enlightened Master

>>51901317
Jhoira of the Ghitu

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>>51888441

>>51901337
>>51901331
shit yours is better than mine I have a jhoira deck too I should have thought of her.

>>51901342
Ghave, Guru of Spores
>>51901365
Yidris, Maelstrom Wielder

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>>51888441
One last for me

>>51901463
Kaalia of the Vast

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>>51901538
I like it!

>>51895837
Gaddok Teeg hatebears.

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>>51888441

>>51901594
that picture would be Phage the Untouchable

>>51897210
Those are punishment effects, which are red and black.

>>51901627
Barrin, master wizard.

>>51899692
Mizzix, because your turns will take 20 minutes.

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>>51901697
fucking top stuff cunt

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>>51888441

>>51901759
Yisan, Wandering Bard

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>>51901780
Nice. I always considered making one. I'll draft one once I'm finished assembling the edhs I'm currently making.

How the hell do I double sleeve? I'm using Dragon Shields for both inner and outer, and every single time the inner sleeve slides off the card by 1/4 an inch.

>>51901862
1. Choose a magic card that you don't care damaging.
2. Insert the sleeved card and the fodder card together to the outer sleeve until its completely inserted.
3. Remove fodder card while holding down the inner-sleeved card.

If I wanted to make a character deck for an Equilorian, would colorless stax be best?

>>51901862
put your finger inside the outer sleeve and push down on the inner sleeve to slide it to the bottom instead of pushing down on the card itself

>>51901922
Seconding this, works perfect

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>take a deck apart and build a new deck out of it
>"ok what will i do with these other cards that i paid top dollar for"
>decide to build another deck out of them
>put together a list that looks good to you, goldfish it a bit and it works
>buy cards for it and play it in a real game
>somehow the deck just feels bad to play, not sure why, it just feels awkward
>order more and more cards in an effort to fix it
>the deck still doesn't feel good to play
>even if i win with it, it's because i veered off the deck's gameplan and didn't win "right"
>think about ordering even more cards to fix the deck

at what point do you just give up and throw your cards into a box somewhere?

Best commander for a discard deck? I was thinking Xira Arien, Nath or something Mardu for those sweet, sweet red wheels+Rule of law

>>51902251
there are a ton of options and it depends a lot on what you want to do

do you want to do horrible evil discard where no one gets to have any cards, or just a deck that wheels a lot and takes advantage of discard triggers, or what?

>>51896588
But not of this world is free when cast on the only creature I care about protecting

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>>51902295
Discard triggers sound better than the no-hands-please!