Age of Sigmar General /aosg/

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>>51831730
Reminder

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Stop playing age of sigmar

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>>51831754
STOP

What are pistoliers for, /AOSG/?

>>51831730
>Age of Shitmar

lol

When are Greenskinz getting an update? They seem so inferior to Ironjawz and Bonesplitterz, what's the point?

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I'm starting to consider getting a unit of double hammer liberators

Because reasons

>>51831966
I approve of your idea, anon. Why settle for smiting one heretic at a time when you can smite TWO?

>>51831752
Settra refers to himself in the third-person though.

>>51831853
Building a freeguild army right now and I guess you could use them for moving quickly across the board to seize objectives.

I am so salty the only freeguild battalion requires literally every unit in their list because I want to run an army that's pure handgunners, swordsmen and greatswords with knight and arty support

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>Tfw keeping the Empire pure by purging Stormcast mutants

>>51831966
They look cool, but to be honest, liberators really aren't good for anything but soaking charges and tarpitting, even with double hammers. Shields make them better at their battlefield role.

At least that's been my experience

>>51832261
But the battalion is worth it. Freeguild looks shit when you read their warscrolls, but they shine with the battalion benefits and leader buffs.

>>51832368
I know, and they're an army that rewards careful planning and synergising buffs in a way that really appeals to me, but that's kinda what I mean. You used to get pretty much the same benefits from the State Troop Detachment in the empire legacy list, if I recall correctly. That only required you to take infantry, with pistoliers and outriders as an optional elite slot.

>>51831966
I've actually been considering the same.
Well, strictly speaking I am considering a unit of five Liberators with dual hatchets I have left over from my Hunters. That'd give me a third unit of Liberators for battalion purposes in addition to the 10 sword/shield and 10 hammer/shield Liberators I already own.

Which is the best?

1:
Oldblod on carnosaur
Slan
5x Temple guard
5x temple guard
Engine of the gods
1020

2:
Warden
Engine of the gods
Skink priest
5x temple guard
5x t g
5x t g
5x chameleon skinks
1000

3:

Engine of the gods
Skink priest
10x temple guard
30x skinks blowpipe
5x chameleon skinks
Salamander + skinks
1000

>>51832522
>waac lizard player
>going over in points
typical

>>51832261
Does moving fast across the board even matter in the grand scheme of scenarios?

>>51832544
Hell yes it does! The GHB scenarios are centered around objectives, and being able to cap them when able and at the best opportunities is what a skilled players knows to do, and fast units help with that.

>>51832522
This one:
Skink Priest w/ priestly trappings
Eternity Warden
10x Temple Guard
10x Temple Guard
10x Temple Guard
10x Skinks
Eternal Starhost
1000
Enjoy your 30 models with 2+, rerollable, rend ignoring save and D3 damage halberds.

>>51832559
Disgusting.

Will the rules mega ever return?

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This thread belongs to Hashut

>>51832602
>I am incapable of looking in the pastebin for 3 other Megas

Can't decide between Nurgle or Stormcast converted into the black knights from dark souls using dark eldar kabalite heads.

>>51833053
Think those heads might be too small. Got a load of fantasy dark elf helmets which are pretty much identical atm and they look fairly tiny even on my empire human models.

>>51832261
just use the state troop detachment battallion.

>>51833019
None of the megas have the grand alliance pdfs

>>51833108
Because they don't exist. Grand Alliance books were paper only.

How new are you?

>>51833144
No scans?

What a pain in the ass

>>51833147
They are literally just collection of warscrolls that are on the website/app. Plus a few battallions.

>>51833151
>Plus a few battallions.

That's what I need

>>51833108
Is there anywhere I can find them without buying.

>>51833160
Get them in the app. Nobody will scan them for you

Is the grand alliance PDF begging in the bingo? Because I think it should be, with how often we get it

>>51833169
The app is fucking garbage

>>51833189
I'm sorry you have terrible taste.

>>51833189
Okay then I'll not screencap the garbage at a high resolution...

>>51833189
>The app wants my money for something I want, but I don't want to give it any money, therefore it's fucking garbage

>>51833213
>>51833219
>pay $2 for the battalion
>Literally a renamed version of a free battalion but with more tax units

fantastic

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Guys, tell me of your Hinterland warbands, doesn't matter if real or only planned.

>>51833228
Aside from the freeguild one, they are all new.

>>51833231
My hinterlands warband is called Scyish Hunting Party, and it's a beastmen warband.
The beastlord leading the warband died early on, making a Bestigor "Scyish" the new leader. Besides him, there are 3 other bestigors, 6 Gors and a single Ungor raider.

>>51833178
Or you could just add it to the frigging' resources page.

>>51833231
I just played one today. I had:
1 Rotbringer sorcerer
1 Putrid blightking
3 chaos warriors with Mark of Nurgle, swords and shields, one Hornblower
1 chaos marauder with Mark of Nurgle, axe and shield

My opponent had mixed destruction. An ogor and some greenskins

The game was great fun. Very quick and exciting. However he got more tokens because the destruction battle trait is way overpowered. It never says you can't get that free move and your regular move with your run, so he was zipping around the table and getting half the tokens off before I could even charge anything

I really like it, but the battle traits need to be altered. The chaos one is garbage (dealing 1 mw to yourself is a huge fucking deal at this scale, and it can only be used on a hero, not even your general), the destruction one is really too good (on our second game we ruled out only provides a D3" move). The order one seems reasonable, but I haven't played with the death one

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>>51833284
>Aside from the freeguild one

>>51833097
Some faggots get salty about using legacy stuff that's been superceded by new releases though. My stance is that it'll stop being valid when they take it off the app.

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>>51833530
Fuck that im using Karl Franz until GW goes under

long live the emperor

>>51833530
Also Freeguild Regiment is 100 points whereas State Troop Detachment + Knightly Order is 200 total. Paying 100 extra points for a little bit more flexibility is a trade-off I'm not entirely sure about.

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>>51833552
MY LAD

proudly got his name smeared all over my freeguild army's armour and scrollwork

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>>51832336
>>51833552
>>51833569

So is the Empire or Freeguild or whatever they're called now still just the Stormcasts' bitches or what?

>>51833663
More like the Stormcasts are their bitches because they're the people who Sigmar forged them to fight and die for.

The Freeguilds are the armies of the free peoples of humanity who take up arms without the boons and blessings of a god and take the fight to Chaos with faith, steel and gunpowder.

Pretty fucking dope if you ask me.

>>51833663
So are they going to re-release empire as free peoples?

>>51833703
Technically they haven't re-released shit, they're still selling a bunch of old Empire stuff under the Freeguild name on the website.

I'm hoping we'll get new models and box sets eventually though, even if it means stepping away from the OG renaissance aesthetic I love so much. The fact that the Disciples of Tzeentch releases and tie-in literature have spent some time fleshing out the free cities of Order suggests we might be in luck.

>>51833718
Yeah I noticed the issue im having is that 3rd party shops don't sell the freeguild stuff.

>>51833754
My FLGS has some Empire stuff and it's not even old stock because they only opened last year. Comparatively when I've asked in my local GW they've tended to tell me that it's website-only stuff. Guess it just depends where you're at.

Honestly pal you're at no disadvantage if your LGS doesn't sell them, you can probably make killer savings online. I just try and get my models from my local joint where possible on principle because I want to support it.

SKAVEN GET OUT OF MY FUCKING REALM

>>51833841
the future belongs to rats yes-yes

https://strawpoll.com/ewde5wr

>>51833663
Yes, anyone who says otherwise is deluding himself into thinking they aren't the imperial guard to the stormcast marines

>>51833894
Your problem there is assuming the Imperial Guard aren't infinitely more interesting than any loyalist marines, friend :^ )

>>51833851
Can you guys please fuck off from Chaos?

t. Cultist

>>51833932
I'm not assuming anything of the like there.

>>51832555
But isn't caping less important then actualy holding them ? Who cares if your first on the objectives if at the end of turn 3 your opponent is the one that holds them.

>>51834028
Because in 4 missions the objectives give points every turn instead of just at the end of the game and in the other 2 you instantly win if you controll all the objectives.

>>51834070
yeah but no one plays the missions with the per turn VP, because those would be automaticly won by sides that have fastest moving units or teleportation.

>>51834088
So you basically only play Take and Hold?

I miss Slaanesh.

>>51834128
Well I probably could want to play something else, but take and hold with 2-3-5 objectives is what is played in tournaments here. So everyone plays only that.

>>51834169
I am always surprised by the idiocy of people. Literally every one of the GHB matched play scenarios are extremely good and favour a balanced approach to list building and people just ignore them outright.

anyone got some interesting Ironjawz colour schemes for me to steal?

cannot stand the bright yellow armour with zero wear and tear or dullness to it

Reminder that Fyreslayers is the best shooting army, because literally every single model has a ranged attack.

>>51833876
>https://strawpoll.com/ewde5wr

High elves and wood elves literally not even an option in the poll.

Please kill yourself.

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Liberating the mortal realms by purifying them of all the corrupting inferior races. With lightning and Eagle wing symbolism on everything.

seriously we aren't the Fourth Reich at all

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19.3% of all people who play the game play elves. More than any other faction by a mile, not even close. Yet no Elves in AOS.

Reposting for bitterness

>>51834416
God you Elf-fags are the worst, I would rather have Carnac Archeon posting then deal with your whinging every thread

>>51834438
STFU stormbro go suck sigmars cock

>>51834416
That's only because Evles were overpowered in WHFB and everybody jumped on the bandwagon.

And now that they are shit as they deserve all of them just whine about it.

>>51834416
source on those stats?

And stop acting like Elves have been removed from the game or some shit. Elf fags are the fcking worst and I collect elves.

>>51834488
>That's only because Evles were overpowered in WHFB and everybody jumped on the bandwagon. And now that they are shit as they deserve all of them just whine about it.

says the faggot who loves hairy midget men

>>51834516
>source on those stats?
some anon in the last thread but they serve my purpose of advocating for elves releases so I co-opted them and cleaned them up for re-use.

>And stop acting like Elves have been removed from the game or some shit.

Oh I buy paint and play them currently but I want new toys I am not alone in this

>>51834516
>Elf fags are the fcking worst
no storm-bros are the worst

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>>51834522
Sorry dude, I think you are projecting your love for men. Some of us like women you know?

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>>51834565
>Some of us like women you know?
you like plant mutants

some of like actual women

>>51834565
if that is a woman, then I am an olympic level swimmer.

>>51834565
Thick.

>>51834553
>no storm-bros are the worst
We are? Why?

>>51834579
>Anorexic bitch with disproportionate tits and a face that seems she is just coming from a week of partying and now has the mother of all hangover and the worst hairdo ever
>actual woman

I want to put those pics near each other with the caption "this is you on WHFB".

>>51834553
Ah so the statistics are bullshit and so is your whole argument by that extend.

What have you got elfwise? Currently in a bit of a jam if I should try to start monolist corsairs or order serpentis. Corsairs lack interesting characters but I really despise the black dragon miniature. I also have some Darkling coven miniatures (2 boxes + sorc) but I dont want to do another footslogging army like my skaven.

>>51834639
because they are like space marines from looks to actual mechanics, and there is nothing worse in table top gaming, including other systems , then a space marine. And clone of something bad can only be bad.

>>51834676
I like Stormfront Eternals, they come down on lightning and smite the swarthy barbarian hordes.

Mine have a cool double lightning bolt rune insignia.

>>51834642
>Anorexic bitch with disproportionate tits and a face that seems she is just coming from a week of partying and now has the mother of all hangover and the worst hairdo ever
that's what the narrative going on with nurgle expected her to look like in AoS at that moment, yes.

>>51834665
>Ah so the statistics are bullshit and so is your whole argument by that extend

in so much as you or I can trust the statistics provided by the anon from the previous thread then my copy of them can also be trusted. He had no motive to lie and neither do I.

>What have you got elf wise?
I have 30 darkshards,
30 dreadspears,
20 cold one knights,
10 dark riders,
30 witch elves,
1 cauldron of blood,
1 cold one chariot
10 doomfire warlocks
1 assassin
10 sisters of slaughter
20 glade guard
1 Shadow King
5 sisters of the thorn
10 sisters of avelorn
1 handmaiden of the everqueen
1 Alarielle the everqueen
1 high elf mage on foot
1 high elf lord on dragon
1 dark elf lord on dragon
1 dark elf lord on manticore
1 high elf prince on griffon

>monolist corsairs or order serpentis
the mini-factions are traps don't stick to either unless you want to lose every game you play. Its not all about winning but its also not fun to never even have a chance.

I have posted my un-defeated elf list that combines units from all the elf factions in previous threads but no one believes me that it is any good and I don't care anyways cause I don't want it nerfed like tomb kings.

>>51834764
shit also 20 Phoenix Guard and
20 executioners

Im probably forgetting some other shit too

also its all painted

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>>51834692
>mfw vanguard chamber from the stormfront of the city aeternal

>>51834772
also
1 lore master and
3 Tenebrael shards

>>51832220
Settra, is that you?

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OUTTA MY WAY ORDER FUCKING SHITS

>>51833876
wow, I thought way more Sylvaneth

>>51834389
Stop posting this meme, Atleast until you've made a Reich army.

>BTW Bob have you guys heard anything about the slightly Cthulu/Deep One elves (Aelves) due out later this year? (After Steamheads, which I think are next - oh and there's chat of some skaven stuff too iirc)

nu aelves

>>51834764
Statistics provided by anons are always by their definition not reliable. It's not about proving that they are unreliable, it's about proving they are reliable in the first place.

>Are those elves all painted?

>the mini-factions are traps don't stick to either unless you want to lose every game you play. It's not all about winning but its also not fun to never even have a chance.

I'd love to combine Privateers with Order Serpentis, but alas corsairs are not battle line... A lot of the issues with the mini-factions would be fixed if more units were normal battleline. Basically, any unit that was a core unit in WHFB should be a battle line unit in AoS (more or less) in my opinion.

>1 dark elf lord on dragon
Am I the only one who really hates that model? The rider is unimpressive hiding behind the neck, the head of the dragon is too big, the wings are placed in a wrong position, basically the only thing I did like is the how snakelike it is...

I can't decide which Grand Alliance I should join.

>>51835078
What kind of models have drawn your eye so far?

>>51834919
>Are those elves all painted?
yes

>fixed if more units were normal battleline
since the mini-factions of elves are (typically) three units they also have a problem with being totally strategically inflexible. Three units don't make a well rounded force able to cover the bases needed to be even remotely competitive.

>Am I the only one who really hates that model?

It looks the same as the high elf lord on dragon only in a different pose. I like it just fine. You do have a point about the rider being oddly behind the neck though.

>>51834676

So, pray tell, do stormcast eternals play like codex: grav?

Stop presses lads! We've got more stuff from WQSOH incoming! And it looks amaaai-zing!

https://war-of-sigmar.herokuapp.com/bloggings/1731#disqus_thread

>>51832337
>he doesn't use the special weapons

Liberator prime with a grandhammer can do a lot of damage to heroes and monsters

>>51832559
This is literal garbage

I wish the Eternal Starhost meme would end.

>>51834416
>whfb

Who gives a fuck

Elffags are truly the worst

>>51834863
>tfw you didn't wait for Deep One Aelves before building an army

shit, going to have to spend MORE money

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>>51834863
If we can take from this to mean that they intend to do a release of elves expanding on the scourge privateers min-faction then I have the following thoughts on the subject.

Dark elf players who played the pirate themed armies were a very small subset of population.

People who play elf armies > people who play dark elf armies > people who play pirate dark elf armies.

This release is unlikely to appeal to the 80% (estimating) of people who played / play elf armies.

If I am right (I might be wrong but its just my thoughts) then the sales for the release won't be as good as something like a Realm of Light Elves release with Tyrion and Teclis or Malekith and the Realm of Shadow elves.

I worry that they will do this mini-faction release and see poor sales numbers and interpret that as a lack of interest in the concept of elf releases.

>>51835410
one of the recent books talked about giant crabs that the privateers ride around in like ships, but also use in battle

>>51835311
Am I the only one who hates that it's played with a GM? If I wanted to play D&D, I'd play D&D. Now of course, if this is the build up to a proper RPG then I'm fine with it.

>>51835228
Atm best option for Elves is just running Swifthawk agents with the Battallion from Spire of Dawn. Should give you a decently diverse force.

>>51835410
considering we got both Ironjawz and Bonesplitterz as individual Greenskins armies, I don't see why they'd limit themselves to just releasing one army of Elves when it's already well established with the playerbase that there are multiple Elven armies.

>>51835410
You are most likely right in the pirate aspect of dark elves being the less popular aspect. But i'll be damned if that wasn't what made me play them in 7th when the corsairs got new models, and i'll be damned if it wont make me play them again if they get AoS'd to actually have some options.

>>51835410
Or they do a Disciples of Tzeentch style book which includes several factions. Battletome: Spooky Aelves, which includes all the old Dark Elves + New stuff. It's wishlisting, but who knows.

>>51835450
Honestly, the biggest thing the scourgewater privateers miss atm is a magic user with their keyword. Would help a lot. And of course the Fleetmaster is underwhelming but a 120 pt magic user would really round up the faction.

>>51835437
>Atm best option for Elves is just running Swifthawk agents with the Battallion from Spire of Dawn. Should give you a decently diverse force.

I actually disagree with this and recommend going back to the original compendium warscrolls for the elves and ignoring everything since then. That gives you complete armies with synergies intact and some decent tools to play. However it still wont win you games reliably. The thing to do is to cherry pick the good things from the three flavors of elves and roll them into a force on the table. I won't tell you exactly what shape it should take but there is at least one good option I figured out.

Just to restate: I believe the spire of dawn battalion is bad. At best a 6/10.

>>51835471
Why is it bad? It gives you access to a magic user and his troops without break allegiance. And the pt cost is trivial anyways. And the benefit is quite decent to be honest.

>>51835437

Actually you can play without the GM, you can use the ai tables.

>>51835495
Oh really, that's great, options are always good

I'm kind of new to wargaming, and watching a battlerep of w40k now. They have a deck of objectives that they draw from, and that sounds like fun. Is that a core part of the game, or is that something extra that you buy? And can this be adapted to AoS?

>>51835484
>Why is it bad?
well for starters the prince on griffon is a limp noodle with a sports car price tag. He just cant stand up to anything of an equal points value and is really only good for picking off things like war machine crews and wizards on foot left in the open.

The Lotheren Sea guard (spire guard) are very steeply over-costed too for what damage they can soak and what damage they can put out compared to things like Darkshards and Dreadspears.

Sure swordmasters are okay but they so only have one wound and not so hot survivability for their points cost.

The reavers are a somewhat bright spot with their blinding speed but they also suffer from the hits like a wet noodle problem.

The archmage is an embaressment for his points cost. He is the same cost as the Gaunt summoner but only gets to cast unbind 1 and has a worse spell(my opinion).

The whole problem with the army boils down to the fact that it is made up of units that are just plain over-points-costed compared to the new releases like fyreslayers/stormbros/tzeentch/sylvaneth/beastclaw/ironjaws/bonespittes/gouls/lizardmen

The army does have good things going for it though, those being: Great aesthetic and a very unified looking force.

So if you really only care about playing fluffy games and you really don't mind that you won't be winning many if any games then I say go for it.

Winning isn't the most important thing about the game.

>>51835746

Archmages spell goes from meh to amazing once you realize you can put it on artillery

But if you want to play high elves, hope you like Phoenix guard

>>51835559
Yes, it can be adapted to AoS. No it's not part of the game, instead AoS has a shit ton of different objective games. I don't think the card system will be implemented anytime soon, if at all.

>>51835887

AND by archmage I meant loremaster.

>>51835887
>Archmages spell goes from meh to amazing once you realize you can put it on artillery

youre thinking of the loremaster not the archmage. The loremaster is amazing but better than casting hand of glory on a bolt thrower its actually better on something like the dark elf lord on dragon (the high elf lord on dragon provides his own psudo hand of glory to himself).

The archmage provides a 6+ ward bubble. people will argue that it is worth the points but it is my opinion that it really isn't enough.

>>51835983

It's a further 16.67% chance to save on Phoenix guard which just pushes their skew even further, so it has some applicability.

Death players seem to love their 6+ FnP equivalent so it may have merit.

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>>51834242
>Naked ginger baby midgets
>Best anything

>literally every single model has a ranged attack.

>What is Eshin?

Beaten again, Dwarf-thing

>>51834676

To be fair I play 30k and stormcast don't play as much like marines as they play like custodes.

>>51832337

I've got 20+ shield liberators but I've been curious as to how some double hammer bros will do with some hero support.

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>>51834133
I miss his feminine penises

>>51833231
Planning an upcoming Hinterlands campaign and I've been having trouble figuring out which of a few I want to bring.

>5 White Lions led by an Archmage (proxy'd by a Handmaiden of the Everqueen model).
>Two Sisters of the Watch, three Wildwood Rangers, led by a Nomad Prince.
>Small skeleton horde led by a Vampire Lady.

I've been having trouble figuring out fluff for them, although I feel like I'd prefer to go with the Lion Ranger team since I love me some White Lions.

>>51835746
>Spire Guard are steeply over-costed
Isn't that a bit of an exaggeration? 20 pts more than Dreadspears which is not that much considering the benefits the Spireguard get.

>The Reavers are a somewhat bright spot with their blinding speed but they also suffer from the hits like a wet noodle problem.
What is your definition for not hitting like a wet noodle? they have plenty of ranged attacks, I mean if everything that is not mortal wounds or -2 rend is a wet noodle than this game is already heading for WHFB levels of no-fun...

>So if you really only care about playing fluffy games and you really don't mind that you won't be winning many if any games then I say go for it. Winning isn't the most important thing about the game.
This was exactly the attitude in the WHFB community. You like unit X? Oh, it's shit, but have fun with it. And at the end of the edition, we had about 5 viable factions each containing 3 units that were useful according to the internet. Often, hardly based on actual playing but it became a self-fulfilling prophecy.

>>51831882
Never. As you said what's the point?

And what's the appeal?

Want tough armored Orcs / Big evil Wyverns? Ironjawz are perfect, amazing models too.

Want less armored savage classical Orcs? with wizards? and squig elements? and bowmen? and boar-boyz? Bonesplitterz. Decent models there.

Want....Shitty artillery units?
Terrible Goblin/Wolf models?
River trolls?
...Really?
Greenskinz it is.

Expect Spiderfang or Moonclan as they need to give Gobbo players something next

>>51836128
>20 pts more than Dreadspears

dreadspears are 80pts for 10 modles

>not hitting like a wet noodle?
well they have average to hit and towound and no rend and mono damage profiles. They really aren't intimidating and with poor saves they evaporate almost instantly when actually touched by anything.

It's not that they are bad in and of themselves, its that the points you have to pay to put them on the table is hard to justify outside edge cases and possibly objective grabbing.

>WHFB levels of no-fun
I don't entirely disagree. I do hope (really hope) that the GW people pull their heads out their asses and balance the points properly so we can have every faction be at least passingly viable.

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>>51836189
>dreadspears are 80pts for 10 models
Oh right, made that mistake since Darkshards and Bleakswords are 100, with the Spireguard you get 2 for 1 though and they do look quite resilient when it comes to battle shock. And if you use the whole Spire of Dawn battalion you get a big pile of shooting, it might not be super lethal, but quantity counts for something imo.

>I don't entirely disagree. I do hope (really hope) that the GW people pull their heads out their asses and balance the points properly so we can have every faction be at least passingly viable.
It will be impossible for GW to balance it to the degree that all units will be viable. Look at WoW. They are now at the point where almost every spec and class can compete at serious levels and yet the community still condemns some specs to 'dogshit' levels due to some bounded accuracy bullshit.

>>51836230
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>>51836255
This shit looks pretty amazing. This is the kind of stuff that was missing so far.

>>51836230
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>>51836275

Damn, but this is actually pretty cool. It's nice to see AoS bringing back some of the old WHFB-style gritty weirdness.

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>>51833189

After years of using the Warmahorde equivalent, and never actually being a AoS fan (mostly due to old grudge over my WHFB days), even a guy like me can admit when I see something pretty good.
All basic rules are free, its easy to use and you literally just pay for what you want, no more no less. It even contains the "rule book" and a army-builder type of thing, and all I could actually ask for more is that it included a free dice roller!

So stop your whiny ass bitching and accept that you obviously are to poor to enjoy a hobby. You just wants the taste, but don't want to pay for the cream, and it is absolutely 100% because people like you who was the cause of WHFB being trashed. If you don't support the hobby, it goes away, its that simple.

Deathrattle should merge into Nighthaunt

Mortis engines Vamps, covens and Necros should merge into Deadwalkers.

Each of these gets a book, and then they can release an entirely new Death faction

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>>51833231
Warband: Defenders of the Lake

1x Paladin on mount
1x Grail knight
1x mounted yeoman
3x Peaseant Bowmen
2x Men at Arms

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>>51834227
I feel like bone and dark silver would look good on them.

Kinda like this, but maybe swap the red for silver.

>>51834227
the objectively superior scheme for greenskins incorporates metallic grey/browns (dark iron and bronze), brown/bone leather with mainly red decorations, yellow/gold accessories/bits and the occasional black and white checkes pattern on standards, borders of pauldrons, as bands around rods/shafts/arms etc.
magical effects must be predominantly green with bright yellow edges but turquoise smoke/trails/glow as should be the thinner flesh like skin recesses around the eyes, lips and nails.
inner flesh (inside the mouth) has to be a purple washed version of the skin colour.
blue will feature mainly as metallic oxydation, occasional scaly hides and sparse dots in the magic smoke.

remember to use the non-neutral colours for warpaints.

>>51832220
So does The Rock. Are you suggesting Settra will return as the head of a Polynesian army of Floridian wrestler mummies?

>>51836847
>the objectively superior scheme

its amusing when people state without reservation that their subjective opinions, on subjects that are purely devoid of objectivity, are the objective solution.

slow clap for you.

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>>51836275
YES YES YES YES YES

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>>51836230
Oh shit he's Skeletor

>>51836275
>SKAVEN FUCKING SHITS

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>>51836230
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My Boner has transcended time and space, I need more MORE MOOOOOREEEE

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>>51836275
>>51836255
>>51836245
>>51836230
IN THE GRIM DARKNESS OF THE AGE OF SIGMAR, THERE ARE ONLY CRIPPLES WITH GOOFY COSTUMES

as there should be

And people said there was no grimdark in the new setting. I've seen it all along, and this artwork just confirms it.

Fuck you.

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>>51836380
Starting a death army and I want to really base it around Army of Darkness with a Universal Horror vampire theme, so I would like for more solid releases.

t. 40Keker

>>51833228
So why do you need the bataillon again ?

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Let's talk Brutes: a pair of choppas or a big choppa?

>>51837010
its obviously objectively superior to yours since you jave no argument as to why this isnt objectively superior.

So I have the new Stormcast book... but if I want the scrolls in the app I have to pay again?

>>51838010
Unfortunately yes. This is why I really only use the app for referencing warscrolls and quick rule look-ups.

For the shit i paid for, i have printouts and copies of the pages in a nice binder.

Does anyone know how the Chaos marauder/Chaos Warrior heads look on Stormcast?

I'd doing some heavy conversion work to make them look more Barbaric and Nordic to fit in with my Stormhost, The Stormbloods.

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>>51838144
If you're doing that something like this might give you some inspiration

Not sure how I should paint my daemonettes. I'm thinking of going daemonette hide for skin base, then abaddon black and ironbreaker for clothes, then total violet wash, and then slaanesh grey for skin highlights. I'm just not sure on what colour primer I should use, and how I should do the hair and claws.

>>51837010
Has it glanced your mind that it might be an ironic statement with the purpose of attracting attention and discussion?

it is also funded on the idea that a neutral background colour with a primary warm colour on the complementary side of the already established green skin of the orcs offers the better contrast to the eye

the secondary colours listed are either cold or already connected to the palette in play with the intention of breaking monotony without hampering the initial intention of counterbalancing green with red

some opinions are objectively more true than others because they emerge from less subjective matrices of measurements.

also you're waifu a shit.

>>51837950
Pair if 5 models unit. Big Choppa if 10 men units.

>>51836275
>no small but vicious dog
dropped

The mold lines on the SC from the SC vs Khorne box are insane...

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sup /AoS/, are skullcrushers worth taking ?
i'm playing mix up of khorne and mortals, and i'm looking for some heavy hitters, any advices ?

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/02/21/closer-look-the-villains/

Interesting thing to note is that the main bad guy is a Sorcerer of Slaanesh

>Long has he, and sorcerers like him, attempted to draw the attention of their lost Chaos God, but to no avail. Now he thinks he may have found a way to locate and awaken his gorged and sleeping deity. Gathering to him followers of Chaos and binding them with promises of bloodshed, mayhem and desolation, he has forged an alliance and seeks to fulfil his destiny…

just starting my Ironjawz army

is it worth having a shield for an extra 6+ save, or 1 extra attack for my Ardboyz who have a 4+ regular save

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>>51837000
>Settra will return as the head of a Polynesian army of Floridian wrestler mummies

>>51838506
Slaanesh is coming off more and more as a fat fuck who went into a food coma after devouring a fuck ton of Elf souls

More for Seraphon Army!

>>51838506
You see this is what I'm taking about. Morons keep bitching "durr they kill slaanesh to game can be pg, durr" completely ignore the constant hints that the story is not finished.

Slaanesh is not dead. GW is not squatting your fucking army, you all can chill the fuck out.

I'm not mad or triggered, just explaining to idiots.

>>51838573
does that means tomb kings will come back too anon ?

>>51838573
>You see this is what I'm taking about. Morons keep bitching "durr they kill warhammer to have more 40k, durr" completely ignore the constant hints that the end times is not finished.
>warhammer is not dead. GW is not squatting your fucking setting, you all can chill the fuck out.
>I'm not mad or triggered, just explaining to idiots.

so we're getting steampunk Duardin and Cthulhu Aelves

anything else to draw in the Reddit audience?

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>>51838010

The warscrolls are free, the battalions sadly aren't.

Just take a picture of the points page out of the book(this one) and whatever battalion you're going to use.

>>51838785
Any source on deep one aelves?

>>51838730
In the End Times they actually said the world was ending. In AoS they have not said Slaanesh is being squated.

>>51838840
this thread

>>51838253
I only ask because these are my first minis and I'm a massive fucking perfectionist.

>>51838861
So is it actually happening or what lad

The spooky-nautical aesthetic some dark elves have has been a fave of mine for years

>>51838573
Or Slaneesh is going to be redesigned to become "kid-friendly".

>>51838852
>they have not said that slaanesh is missing and that every attempt to find/attract his attentions are to no avail

>>51838538
>Slaanesh is coming off more and more as a fat fuck who went into a food coma after devouring a fuck ton of Elf souls

That is more or less the exact fluff we have so far on the subject.

>>51838885

Ok, go simple.

1. Prime white
2. Wash those girls with druchii violet
wait for it to dry
3. wash the tips of their claws and horns with druchii violet + nuln oil mix
wait for it to dry
4. wash the tips of their claws and horns with druchii violet + nuln oil mix

Cloth as black is fine, any metals should be bright silver.

Base with leadbelcher, highlight with stormhost silver.

done.

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>>51833231
Knight-Questor Ascus Summergale and his merry band of Hunters.
From left to right:
- Morus Cloudcutter, a very aggressive and vengeful former Outrider for the Freeguilds in the wilds of the Ghurlands
- Ara Mistveil, who spent her life harrying a Bloodbound warband that had ravaged her Aqshian city before succumbing to age and injuries
- Falmorus Welkintread, artillery observer that died delaying a pack of fleshhounds threatening to overrun a key defensive position at Phoenicium
- Ascus Summergale, for whom very little has changed since being reforged, as he was a knight traveling the realms righting wrongs and protecting the innocent even before that

Not particularily inspired, admittedly, but I just threw it together in a hurry.
Just finished rebasing the three Hunters, too. I'm just glad I found a purpose for these three.
First game of Hinterlands will be this Saturday; I'm really excited.

>>51839186
Why start with the wash, I like how daemonette hide and slaanesh grey look. I will use your claw advice though, just maybe washing over the hide. The hair is still an enigma.

>Order
>Space Marines
>Lizardbros
>Wood Elves

>Death
>Vampire Cunts

>Destruction
>Orcs&Goblins

>Chaos
>Daemons
>Chaos Warriors
>Beastmen
>Skaven

Anything else I am missing?

>>51839215

Do or do not, it's up to you.

>>51839231
Naked midget babies
Brogres
Chaos Dwarves

>>51839129
It's almost like it's a future plot point.

>>51839281
to kill slaanesh? I too think so.

>>51838785
Don't forget 'Sky-Pirate Goblins' and 'Werewolf Frankenstein undead'

>>51839290
If they wanted to kill Slaanesh then they'd just do that.
They've clearly got something else in mind.

What if Slaanesh doesn't want to be found?

Hey buys, im looking for this model: https://www.games-workshop.com/en-CA/Isabella-Von-Carstein. But its sadly out of stock for god knows how long and I cant find it in the many shops in my region. Any of you got one to sell? Or if you know a website that would have it in stock.

>>51836275
>REMOVE SKAVEN.jpg

>>51838064

Is the content in the App version different from other digital ones? Cause I noticed a 10 dollar price difference, but I couldn't find any reference to one having more content than another. If anything, I'd have thought the app would be more expensive, since it unlocks more features with it.

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>>51839320
>if they didn't want to support whfb they would just do that.
they are monetising change whenever possible, do you think they came up with the course of the realmgate wars midway during the release of the starter box? they clearly had already planned the plot course but instead of presenting the setting already with the advancement and exploring the events backwards they are selling piece after piece in an episodic manner.

the same I think is happening with the elves and slaanesh, they already planned what tyrion teclis, malerion and morathi are up to, they already "did just do that" and decide that the elves will kill/eat/use slaanesh and seize the soon to be vacant spot in the pantheon.
not to make the setting kid friendly but to sell: because almost nekkid elves sell while rape daemons don't, comparatively.

>>51839453
It's the same content, you are just paying for a digital format of it.

>>51839485

Okay, because I saw an ebook version from GW for 26, and the app version for 19. Seemed odd if it's the same shit.

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>>51836275
>>51839428

REMOVE MAN-THING

>>51839521
The ebook version probably contain fluff and everything, the app just rules.

>>51839473
This is stupid. Stupid but also sad that it's right.

>>51839317
>Sky-Pirate Goblins
Where the fuck do I sign up?

>>51839473
Except you're wrong.
They could have Elves join the Chaos pantheon any time they want after Slaanesh died, but instead Slaanesh is merely missing and it's not just being swept under the rug.

Which is the coolest Stormhost?

>>51839622
Because they still need more story to make capital off of

>>51839546
But then who would you raid for goodies?

>>51839634
Except they could do that anyway.

SKAVEN FUCK OFF FROM CHAOS YOU FUCKING FAGGOTS

>>51839674
Kill kill yourself man thing

>>51839212
>square-base anon uses round bases
I don't know how to feel about that.

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>>51839674
no

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>>51839674
Problem anon?

>>51839403
I'm waiting for it, too. The way these Out of Stock models work sometimes is that they're prioritized based on how many people put themselves on the Email Me list.

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>>51839573
Don't worry, everything will be alright: people will be able on the one hand to please their hipster boner for slaanesh by fielding an army with the plastic kits that will survive and the off-mentioned fluff of some "pretenders" still trying to please their absent god; others will please their oldschool boner with the incoming elven pleasure cults; the most skilled will kitbash the incoming kits to recreate and expand the slaaneshi daemons aesthetic.

it will just end with slaanesh never getting a proper greater daemon, new daemonic releases or the same recognition as part of chaos as nurgle, khorne and tzeentch.

aos apologists will use the same rethoric they've been repeating so far to defend the "update" as the best possible situation; oldfags will whine about the change being a practical "replacement" and a butchering of thematics; while GW will succeed at making some money disregarding whether there was a better way to it.

>>51839674
This

Skaven were 1000x more interesting when their association with chaos was ambiguous

Now theyre just chaos mooks

>>51839802
>Skaven were 1000x more interesting when their association with chaos was ambiguous

So never?

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>>51839658
They didn't present alarielle already ascended at her war-aspect
They didn't present the extremis and vanguard chambers already opened
They are not going to present slaaneshi elves until the time of the release comes

and it will be soon

>>51839802
>was peninsular
ftfy

I think the alliance between nurgle and pestilence forces (with pestigors soon) is neat but nurgle has too much of the dominant role everywhere in that

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/loudnraging/tgg2-light-and-darkness

So some of the anons and myself were talking about this a couple days ago and I was wondering if any of you guys know this company well enough to have a rough estimate of the time it will take them to make/release these models?

>>51839854
You're not really making any sense.
I did not say that all story that will ever exist already exists.
I'm saying that if they wanted Slaanesh dead then they would have done so already rather than simply have him be missing.
The time for killing him has passed.

Note how Slaanesh in 40k is about to get rekt by a new androgynous aeldari god. My guess is that Slaanesh will remain a thing but be separated from the rest of the Chaos pantheon, possibly becoming an order-aligned aelf/aeldari god.

>>51839632

Hallowed Knights for purity, celestial vindicators for "give us back our stirland clay remove chaos" accordion fury

>>51839632
Tempest Lords

Noblesse oblige, motherfuckers

I just read the tg wiki and all of the grand alliances are cool

order has fire dwarves and some stormforged have cool sub-clans

death has comfy undead bros

destruction has super orks

and chaos has anime and skavens

>>51839915
How am I the one not making sense when you're the one presuming for no reason that the end times was the only possible moment to kill slaanesh?
we have episodic advancements, summer events and yearly representations of the setting, why is it to consider impossible, not even unlikely, for the elven releases to pick up from the narrative of the missing slaanesh and bring new purpose to the slaaneshi model range?

>>51840076
>How am I the one not making sense when you're the one presuming for no reason that the end times was the only possible moment to kill slaanesh?

It was the moment to kill Slaanesh. They decided instead that he would be missing.
Missing never means dead in fiction.
He'll be back, maybe changed in some manner, but not dead else they would have just cut that thread already.

>The first "Striking"

Jesus they really are just fantasy space marines

>>51840237

Excuse me?

>>51840237
Why are you surprised? GW never really cared about not making it obvious.

Why did they give upgrade sprues to stormhosts with zero fluff

>>51839212

I really appreciate the love and time that went into these and want to compliment you on how they turned out, nice job.

I'm sure no one will agree with this but the super dynamic poses seem somewhat unbelievable for men wearing head to toe plate armor like that. Maybe they are such Demi-gods of superhuman strength that they pull that kind of acrobatics/weight lifting off without an issue.

Either way, looks very cool.

>>51834764
Post pic

>>51839848
Always, anon. You may have drawn that conclusion, but Skaven were never directly tied into Chaos in Fantasy. They never even had a clearly defined origin, just a self-contained fable concerning a city pretty much unrelated to everyone else.

As AoS fleshes out, it needs more alcoves in that vein. The Flesheater Courts are an excellent start.

I do think there is potential in Chaos Skaven though. The idea of swarms and swarms of ratmen tunnelling through reality to appear anywhere has potential.

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>>51839212
fancyasfuck/10

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>>51840569
>Skaven were never directly tied into Chaos in Fantasy.

Except since day fucking one.

>>51839212
>tactical tiptoe

>>51840385
Well, the stormcast are very close to superhuman or angelic, so that the lore sorta supports that.

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>>51839721
If that's not a sign of the Endtimes for AoS, I don't know what is...

Where do skaven pestilens fit in in the power struggle?

>>51840731
Yeah, and they became 1000 times better when they moved away from that

how is the greenskin lore/fluff in AoS?

Ironjawz seem a bit less jokey

>>51841094
Except they never did.

>>51841085
in nurgle's basement shitposting about pepe macros on the Internet

>>51841270
show me the passage in the 8th ediion armybook that directly refera to skaven as an offshoot of chaos

>>51841322
Totally irrelevant.
The remained mutant ratmen who ate warpstone and had daemons.

>>51841253
they were made more of a threat though still have room for character

>>51841322
There was no 8e armybook.
The 7e however has this to say:
>ORIGINS OF THE SKAVEN
>A few radical scholars and academics argue endlessly over the origins of the children of Chaos known as the Skaven.

>>51841253
They still have humour, but they are a lot dangerous. They are the guys that when Chaos conquered the realms didn't go into hiding in Azyr and instead keep fighting chaos armies for the whole age of chaos. Even Sigmar now is trying to get them as allies.

My favourite piece of fluff is about this Chaos fortress with a fuckhuge statue of Archaon that the Ironjaws keep invading only to deface the statue and go away, only to repeat it after chaos come back and repair the statue. Once they replaced his head with one of a Grot if i rember correctly.

>>51841273
They're skaven, not nurgle, right?

>>51833231
I re-envisioned the movie "Willard" I have one packmaster "Socrates"
1 Rat Ogre "Big Ben"
12 giant rats

>>51840237

Imperial guard regiments, empire regiments and orc mobs have foundings too

>>51837950
5 Ork unit- two choppas.
10 man or more- jagged spear things.
Always max the special weapons.
Always take claw and smasha.

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>>51836230
>>51836245
>>51836255
>>51836275
>Aos has no substance!
>its all sigmarines, none of the normal people matter
>all the normal people are generic WOW alliance humans
>everything is shiny and noble bright, it lacks the grit of the old world
GET FUCKED GONGARDS
the game is barely 2 years old, and sure they could have started off with more fluff, but its getting there. Material like this will continue to come out, and one day the world of Aos will be just as rich as the old world.

>>51833945
Thank tzeentch for deathrunners, i has 3 sets

>>51834227
my ironjaws are Red and Silver dulled down with nuln oil

>>51842296
how does what you posted disprove any of that

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Hey, me and my mate haven't played since end times. We were going to try age of sigmar tomorrow, and I'm just curious if we're in a position with a predictable result: I play moonclan goblins, and he I think is using his slaanesh daemons.

>>51843079
Not necessarily. His army has the speed and yours has the numbers. It really will be up to the scenario you play whichever has the advantage. Make sure you are playing with points and using the GHB scenarios. They are objective based and favor smart maneuvering and smart players. Most of all, just have fun with it.

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>>51842296

>>51843079
Moonclan can do a lot of denial, which tends to fuck over Slaanesh hard, but overall the two forces are of roughly equal standing, I'd say.

I'd like to start playing a nurgle army. What's a good vanguard list look like?

What's the best Start Collecting set for AoS ? How do they compare to the value of Starter Set?

What's a better purchase for $200, the Starter Set+additional $50 unit or combination of 2 Start Collecting sets? I plan to play Chaos.

>>51844141
How many nurgles could you nurgle if I nurgled your nurgle with my nurgle?

>>51844205
>I plan to play Chaos.
can you be more specific? There are many chaos factions

>>51843160
I can just picture the exalted chariots charging some 40 man units of grots.

With some decent rolling most of the squad could be fucked in one round.

So do horses not exist anymore in AoS?

>>51844205
Well the starter is really only good if you want to collect khorne. A very melee focused list that excels with hero buffing units.

Id say first thing should be the khorne half of the starter set. Try to split with someone. That gives you a good basis for your force with bloodreavers and 3 good hero characters. Then get the start collecting khorne bloodbound for more good stuff.

That right htere is a very solid start for chaos.

>>51844298
The Freeguild, multiple elf factions, and some Chaos mortals still use them.

>>51844298
where did this meme come from?

>>51844298
They do. They are just not the most widely accepted mount as they were in ye olde worlde

Why is AoS so much more popular than fantasy was?

What makes the normies flock to it?

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>>51842296
>Ha ha i'm autistic look at me!!

>>51844430
Easier to get into, more flexible, free rules, no longer rank and file (huge turn off for most people in my town) among other things.

>>51844470
What was wrong with rank and file?

It made the game so much faster to play

>>51844485
I wouldn't know, only played one game of fantasy.

>>51844485
Yeah it was faster, but also it was not as dynamic.

When you watch a movie with a fantasy or historical battle, when the 2 armies clash, they smash into each other, they pile around each other. They mix in with each other. They get pushed back, they push forward. You get a sense of this in a battle of AoS. Not in whfb when 2 blocks meet, then one disappears, then the block moves again.

>>51844485
Probably had more to do with what we now call core tax

>>51841509
Ironjawz are a blessing. Funny, with a great f-you to archaon. That, and they are tactically viable to play!

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How do I paint nurglings? I did a white prime with campshade for my plaguebearers basecoat. Do I do the same for these lil fags?

>>51845064
What pray tell isn't viable in AOS?

>>51845376
All gnoblar and nothing else.

>>51845376
Elven shills. I play a lot of elf lists and get routinely stomped by my or friends. We made small points adjustments so it's fair.

>>51845650
Its what you deserve for being bullshit in 8th

>>51845306

you can vary the base color by adding a tiny dot of red, yellow or blue to a few of the little buggers. Now you will have a majority of green´ish nurglings, but some will stand out as leaning a bit more to the red/yellow/blue direction.

Its all about picking out those details and making the viewer notice them. People will see that you put some extra effort in to those models, when you could have just left them all green.

>>51839231
tomb kings

So, thinking of a narrative campaign here with 3 players vs. a GM, with each player controlling a warband (mainly stormcast, because that's the army I got): liberators, retributors and judicators. Might use hinterlands rules for the growth.

The SC guys are painted in hallowed knights scheme, and the baddies they're going against are mainly nurgle (I have the start collecting set, and an extra box of blightkings).

So the question is, any thoughts of the actual terrain itself, as in which realm or story I should be basing the narrative play on? Fighting their way to find Alarielle who's all coked up on depression meds?

>>51839788
And when they do release them this post will be forgotten.

is the uploader failing for anyone else? can people post images? I keep getting an upload failed error message

Where do I go next from my Ironjawz battleforce?

>>51838216
I wish we could gt female models with nice abs like that (and a pretty face)

>>51846338
Trolls and squigs

>>51838216
[urge to buy a bunch more plastic intensifies]

no this musn't happen

I already have 60 chaos marauders, and I do not need a bunch of greek warriors no matter how much I love spears and round shields

what army would they every represent? state troops?

>wake up
>tomb kings aren't part of Death
>Death and Destruction only consisting of one army

what the fuck were they thinking

>>51846791
>in an entire model range that wasnt selling, tomb kings was selling the least
>death is several factions
>destruction is several factions
Nice tries. Here's your (You)

>>51846338

get a shaman if you don't have one and then considering whether you want brutes or more ardboyz. Megaboss on mawkrusha is legit as fuck.

>>51846824
>actually defending armies getting squatted

im still betting theyre going to bring back tomb kings with a model range update

The necrosphynx was too fucking new to just stop selling

>>51847005
I'm hoping the Necrosphynx comes back with a better pose.

The single paw up wasn't doing it for me at all and all legs down was too boring desu.

Did they ever give a reason as to why they just flat out discontinued brets and tomb kings?

They could have very very easily just have rolled them in with free peoples and skeleton hordes

>>51847065
No. they never gave a reason or spoke out about why, even when asked directly.

Can we shut the fuck up about it now?

>>51847084
>Shut up and buy more models nerd

>>51847065
Presumably since they sold the least. I'm not 100% sure if this is true with TK(Seems likely since they let you combine with VC, who were a way more played faction in the end times), but it's well known that a LOT of people just bought cheaper historicals for their brets

>>51847100
The butthurt is real.

I can see this game 10 years from now "HEY GUSY REMEMBER TK AND BRETS?! SO DO I NEVAR FORGT!"

>>51847122
>Shit on a grognard hobby
>Act surprised when they're butthurt until the end of time

Killing fantasy caused Dawi-levels of grudging

How's this for a stormcast list? Doesn't utilize the new units unfortunately as I want to keep costs down for the time being.

Leaders-720
Lord celestant-100
Lord castellant-100
Lord Relictor-80
Lord Veritant-120
Knight Heraldor-120
Knight Azyros-80
knight Venator-120

Battleline-780
5x Liberators-100
5x Liberators-100
5x Liberators-100
5x Judicators-160
5x Judicators-160
5x Judicators-160

Other-220
5x Retributors-220

Battalions- 260
Anvils of the Heldenhammer-80
Lords of the Storm-100
Thunderhead Brotherhood-80

Total 1980/2000
42 models
112 wounds

>>51847165
I thought you could only have 6 heroes max at 2k

>>51847150
>grudging
I get less of a sense of dwarf grudges, and more of a sense of whiny bitching.

>>51847195
You would whine too if they discontinued your army faggot

>>51847210
They did.

>>51847222
And you're just ok with that?

>>51845778
Only got into it in AoS.

>>51847233
I'm ok especially considering I can still play with them.

And what would I do about it? Bitch about it online? Do you realize how stupid and asinine that is? I don't think people do.

>>51847282
>considering I can still play with them
How about in the future?

Maybe a new edition will come around and GW wont see any point in making rules for models they havent sold in years

>>51831730
Hello /tg/, /v/ here.

Thanks to Total War: Warhammer im interested in the lore, i see that you guys have a pastebin for that with links and everything but is there an order that im supposed to follow? I don't want to get lost and shit, help me out please.

>>51847106
>but it's well known that a LOT of people just bought cheaper historicals for their brets
do we have any actual backing on this?

>>51847296
If they do, it's not my only army. And what would I do about it? Bitch about it online?

>>51847312
You'll not find total warhammer lore in the aos lore.

>>51847327
We don't. Again, nobody has an answer because GW never explained it. People can only provide guesses.

>>51847312
This thread is for Age of Sigmar, the game that GW replaced Warhammer Fantasy with.

The lore that the game has in it is all dead and gone

How the fuck do I use Grimgor Ironhide or the Black Orc Boss? Neither of them have any point values.

>>51847338
Shit nigga you just lost me with that comment, i just want to know about Sigmar and Frank and the Bretonns and shit.

>>51847312
>>51847338
>>51847346
>>51847351
>>51847353
>thisisbait.jpg
Why do you guys keep falling for it?

>>51847352
Page 149

>>51844430
it's not the normies who are flocking it's the warhammer fans that were waiting for an update to jump in.
>why did they jump in?
because it is an update and addressed or is addressing the previous turn off's: the amount of miniatures needed for a start, the lack of support for the balance.

>>51847378
>the amount of miniatures needed for a start

it seems like the start up cost for AoS is nearly identical to fantasy honestly

>>51847353
see if you can pick up old Warhammer army books for Empire and Bretonnians, you've got a good chance of finding them used for cheap.

aside from unit rules and stats, the army books mostly contain really good lore to get to know the armies, and have some of the greatest artwork.

after that you can just google book recommendations relating to whatever you want to read. Fantasy was around for decades, so there is absolutely tons of content out there. Generally though, novels tend to relate more to one character or group of character's individual stories within the world rather than giving a broad history of events. Like in the Gotrek and Felix novels they pass through all sorts of different's parts of the world and sort of give an impression of it all from the perspective of a human and a dwarf.

>>51847353
Age of sigmar is set some vague hundreds of years after the apocalypse of the old world where the winds of magic formed literal magical realms were totally similar factions of the old world and some gods just happen to live in.

I'm not sure if you're the same anon that popped up in the warhammer fantasy thread some time ago, but there's no real canonical order to read the fluff as much of it is self contained and doesn't follow a story, for the books that do follow a story (like the end times, the nagash trilogy, archaon etc) just read each book of a series in its publication order.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Warhammer_Fantasy_novels

don't worry about /aos/, they don't know how to recognise bait and are very defensive.

>>51847403
>it seems like the start up cost for AoS is nearly identical to fantasy honestly
except it isn't?

I've seen the starter box for as cheap as 75 dollars, and if you can get that and a Start Collecting! box (assuming you intend to play SCE or KBB) you will have well over 1000 points already, for less than 150 bucks. Even less if you split the starter with someone else.

>>51847403
that's because the miniatures are generally bigger and pricier now.
but with stuff like starting boxes you get to save on the price of the common infantry while using the dosh you wanted to use on the big kits.

>>51847403
you don't have to buy the expensive fucking giant rulebook tome this time though.

you and a friend can literally just buy a couple units, or the start collecting box sets, some glue, an undercoat spray bottle, and assemble and undercoat them in a day ready to go to battle with 4 pages of free rules and free warscrolls all online.

it's such a massive difference, and the only reason I decided to come back into wargaming after last playing Fantasy back in like 2010

how long until I get my Deep One Elves god damnit

>>51847459
Yes! im the same anon, you have been of great help!

>>51847507
Rumors said later in the year. So 3rd/4th quarter

>>51847517
have fun
don't read the end times too soon