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Using 5th edition characters in 7th edition - edition

> Previous thread
http://boards.4chan.org/tg/thread/51805158#top
>A shitty little list builder that you all should stop ASKING ABOUT YOU FILTHY BITCHES
https://webapplications-webroster.rhcloud.com/rc/web/#/rosterCreator

>Freshest Rules in Epub (Use Readium for PC or Kobo on Android)
https://mega.nz/#F!Wl5DAbCb!TYxZG4CgX_x-NJu7JBwbZQ!2tgBUTYI

>Not always current PDFs:
https://mega.nz/#F!BxI1HSgI!0tKymKh9RZTzGpgIA5EyCg
https://mega.nz/#F!pFgm0RKR!J06C1gVYcjzNGsF8YNLsjQ

>Up to date FAQs
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Rules-Errata

>40K 7th Edition Quick Reference Sheets:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4104995/Games/7edRef.pdf

>Forge World Book Index:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/wiki/en/Forge_World_and_Apocalypse_Rules_Index

> The Black Library(Stay the fuck away from the clowns)
https://mega.nz/#F!wx4BiKhD!YhnAf1BqSmAB8dO6xDM56Q!c4pGAJDb

> Space 0Din's Unfucked ork codex
https://www.dropbox.com/s/lsx27fo3rq2x7tk/Codex%20-%20Orks%207th%20Edition%20Update%20[Space%20Odin](2016).pdf?dl=0
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>>51811652
First for Tau
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second for ultramarines
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Let's start this thread off with some Bingo!
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>>51811652
>I2
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3rd for guard
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>>51812591
First for time traveling Guard.
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I have a game tomorrow with a 10/10 qt

How do I keep myself from firing spaghetti everywhere
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Nth for the Dark Kin! For Commorragh!
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>>51811699
does she play nids?
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Thank you OP for giving a man with some serious constipation something to do while trying to take a shit.
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>>51811705
Tzeentch Daemons/Thousand Sons
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>>51811699
Just act normal man! Give her a good game and treat her with respect and then play more games till you get comfortable enough to ask her out!
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Anyone else use Tabletop simulator to test out before buying?
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>>51811737
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>>51811699
How do you know her? If you got her to play a game with you without having to play because it's a tournament, then your spaghetti spilling is probably enough under control to the point that nobody here could really help you a lot.

If you know you'll play her tomorrow because she "has to" just try not to force jokes or be flirty/creepy and just play it like if you'd play any of the dudes in your store. Also don't try to get on her good side by praising her army paintjob to high heavens when it's unprecedented, nor force any fluff talk when she isn't obviously into the stuff.
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Kind of new to DEldar. Stomped my Tau friend recently when he held back from using the most powerful units. He vowed to go all out next time. 1250pt game.

How do I hunt riptides (and other suits) as DEldar?

I was thinking deep strike dark lance ravagers, blasterborns on venoms, and an incubi unit on a venom dedicated to assaulting them. Taking splinter cannons on the venoms to handle infantry while everything else does its thing.

I wanted to make an Archon whose sole purpose was hunting riptides but I couldn't get an AP 2 weapon, and Drazhar uses demiklaives which have 3 ap instead of the 2 on a single.

Thoughts? Is this the best course of action or am I mistaken?
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>>51811752
Or be batman!
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If I run a squad of 5 meganobz, is giving one a pair of killsawz worth it?
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>>51811748
Aye. Play more games on there than IRL. A lot of them on my own testing lists because my one friend that also has it and plays 40k didn't want to play in weeks.
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I'm new to the game and figuring out my shit. Posted my first few painted models a few days ago in /wip/ and got some good painting tips.

On the other end, I'm tinkering with a list for my first 500 points. I got a little autistic with it and added a lot of fluff to muh dudes. Am I doing anything really retarded with my army choices here?
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>>51811699
Honest question, not mocking you down:
On a scale between Fabio and the tendies guy (worst example of a neckbeard landwhale basement dweller), how physically attractive are you?
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Hey /whg/,

I have a conundrum that I need rectified ASAP.

Dragon dildo or Hammerhead Gunship?
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>Suddenly so many Dark Eldar players popping out of the woodworks

Gangs of Commorragh really did wonders I guess. I thought the Dark Eldar were a pretty underplayed faction.
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>>51811799
["Why not both?" girl]
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>>51811771
She came into the FLGS looking for a practice game since she's new to the hobby, and I offered seeing as I was the only other person there. But It was near closing so I offered a game for tomorrow, and she accepted.

>>51811796
4/10
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>>51811699
Just dont lose your cool, even if she has 5 riptides, be a good sport, and dont be creepy. If you win, offer a rematch and if you lose ask for one.

Shower, shave, deodorant, brush your teeth. I feel like i shouldnt have to tell people this, but this is the hobby that attracts autists and little nurglings.
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>>51811818
To piggyback on this post, a little cologne goes a long way. I'm a solid 4/10, but damn it feels good when the rare "you smell nice" compliment comes out of nowhere.
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Are Renegades the best army now?
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>>51811810
Oh geez, so, are you overweight, or just plain unattractive? And rate her while you're at it.
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>>51811735
>>51811699
Try to keep the game fun and friendly. Spice it up by doing some things that would be fun. Like jokingly try to trick her if she has a flying Daemon Prince. You can pretend to talk as your wardlord, like, "There's some really cool secrets I have to tell you about, but you gotta land first, I don't do shouting".

Don't stomp her into oblivion. There was this solid 8/10 who was playing the other day as Guard. It was her 2nd game and this Marine player went full tournament list style on her even though she specifically asked for a casual and friendly game. She brought her Rough Riders and some Sisters allies and got shit stomped in 2 turns. She was a good sport but you could see she was feeling down. People who came to watch the match asked what they were playing and what their armies and people were and once they found out they gave a lot of "Dude, really?"
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>>51811699
I just pretend girls are dudes. Probably a bit naive but I don't want to be romantically interested in a girl unless I'm already friends with them.
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Thanks everyone for the help in the previous thread in ironing out my list. I just want to run this (tentative) final iteration by y'all once more before I start making purchases.

As always, feedback is appreciated.
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>>51811835
>have a better tarpit than the IG
yes
the IG tarpit requires a comissar, the renegades do not
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>>51811837
Overweight, ugly, yellow teeth, receding hairline even though im only 24

The works
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>>51811803
No its the ynnari, i bought a huge lot on ebay for dirt cheap last year and had no drive to paint them, now im cranking out 5 models a day so i dont look like i jumped on the bandwagon. I did shelf them because of the "jinking forces occupants to snapfire" fiasco, but thats fixed so maybe ill even use them without the ynnari stuff
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>>51811803
The DE playerbase has always been here, we just don't spout about the faction as often as certain other factions' fanboys.
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>>51811809
Bitch I ain't made of money
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>>51811841
no
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>>51811810
Then just be chill about things and explain the game to her like a normal human being. Just play a casual game, bring a fair and simple list and concentrate on being two players, not being a fa/tg/uy and a pretty girl.

If she's friendly and talkative and gets how things work enough to not only ever ask about "how do I do X?" then you can maybe try and chat a bit and have some smalltalk. Also be nice enough to offer her rematches and some advice afterwards. Treating girls like you would any other dude is usually a pretty safe way of getting to know them these days, especially when their hobby is a men-domain anyway.
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>>51811862
And her?
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>>51811866

Sure you don't.
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>>51811652

>coworker drops by my place
>sees my 40k models (ig) oh my shelf 'woah cool army men anon!
>'hey anon, they're a bit dusty, he proceeds to blow air from his mouth on the models
>all plastic, none of them weighed down, nearly 30 guardsmen fall on the hardwood floor and shatter into pieces
>mfw

How has everyone's 40k been this week?
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>>51811862

You could always just start lifting weights and shave your head. You never know.
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>>51811699
>>51811845
To elaborate on this I've heard about how girls trying to get into table top stuff lament how they get treated differently by the guys, like they're strangers in a far off land, and this perpetuates the lack of girls in the hobby. Just do your best to be polite and to behave with her like any other gamer.
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>>51811891
She kind of looks like that pigeon girl I see posted sometimes

short, thin, bobbed blonde hair. dressed kind of like a hipster
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>>51811907
Describe your exact reaction and be honest.

Also, were you able to fix them.
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>>51811912
I tried shaving my head but I have giant moles all over my head and also my head is shaped weird
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>>51811879
Then do this:
Buy a dragon dildo. Find some spare Hammerhead bits online (just the engines, gun and side flaps (if even those) should suffice. Then, put those things on the Dragon Dildo and bam, you'll have a Hammerhead, a dragon dildo and one sick-ass conversion! Can even use magnets in order to freely switch between dildo, Hammerhead, Devilfish, Longstrike or Sky Ray!
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Linking to my previous post from the last thread

>>51811888
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>>51811907

Plastic models are light, sure, but blowing hard enough in one single breath to knock down 30 models? What is he doing, blowing out a birthday cake?

And is your shelf apparently a thin piece of board with no back? Did his blowing magically suck the guardsmen towards him?
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>>51811942
Wyches are competing for worse unit in the game. Hellions are bad, reavers are great.
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>>51811859
Technically if you want a tarpit that can do something other than just being tough and fearless the 4ppm mutant rabble led by an enforcer with combat stims make short work of MCs.
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>>51811938
>receding hairline
>head shape doesn't look good shaved

I know this feel.
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>>51811907
I had someone do that to my necron once. Almost had a nerd rage at this fucking normie. Thank god I kept a facade of calm and ''its nothing dont worry''. 2 lords and a bunch of warriors went flying. Thank god, necron models are kinda sturdy.
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>>51811920
Well, what can i say, other anons already gave you good advice
>shower
>shave
>brush teeth
>don't be creepy
>don't force subjects
>treat her like you would any dude playing you
>think before you talk
Also, i'd add that you control any kind of autistic bias triggers related to fluff or crunch, i'm telling you this because it's a huge problem for me. Basically, you're just playing another person, that's it. Have fun.
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>>51811841
>You can pretend to talk as your wardlord, like, "There's some really cool secrets I have to tell you about, but you gotta land first, I don't do shouting".
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>>51811949
so there seems to be a lot of things have changed. what are some of the best units in DE now? and are they still a glass cannon army?
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>>51811900
>Taufags and anti-Taufags
>Marine players in general
>Chaosfags bitching about how Mariens are better
>Orkfags and Nidfags REEEEEing about how their codex is shit
>Sistersfags ever
>the Eldarfag who believes just because he didn't bring WK and scatbikes he's playing cheeseless
DE are the patrician's choice anon.
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>>51811956
mutants are 3ppm i think
I love that conscripts are also 3ppm and can take commissars
one of the few good buffs from the disaster that is the Guards 6th dex
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>>51811920
I'd be surprised she was single.
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>>51811938
Buzz it down shorter. Also don't worry so much about tomorrow. Girls in these hobbies are like the other anon said, they just want to be treated similarly. Explain some rules, explain your army and what you are doing so she fully processes it, tell her you're willing to answer whatever you can.

If it helps, think of her having a penis too. Just a skinny boy with faggy hair.

That or realize you don't need to worry what kind of impression you make on her because you two aren't going to bang. That mindset has actually helped me get with people when I'm so comfortable and sure that I can never be with them, they end up being attracted to me because I just let it all hang out.
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So, wanna keep my list in the Black Templar spirit of actually trying to get some dudes into freaking melee. Should I keep my Rhino Crusaders equipped with Boltguns to be at maximum shooting after disembarking and not being able to charge anyway and only have 20-27 attacks on the charge or drop the shooting potential after getting out in favor of more attacks in assault?

Pic related as an example list.
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>>51811979
>didn't mention IG anywhere
it's ok, no one remembers us either
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>>51811978
The basics are still pretty much the same, you take dudes in venoms and raiders with ravager support.
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Any input on basing techniques?
I've just moved over to using texture paint and having mixed results...
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>>51811979

You forgot to mention the ork and nidfags that think their armies are/should be the primary antagonist of 40k instead of Chaos
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>>51811940
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>>51811699
Beat her ass mercilessly.
Women desire to be dominated and are not very good at games.
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>>51811835
No... well kinda.

The Renegades list can be used to represent a wide variety of forces from crappy mech guard (what I play), ogryn deathstars, discount Stormtroopers, mass waves of infantry, to full chesedick hyper-efficient artillery spam.

The Renegade list that won the LVO is the later. He also combined the artillery with a nigh-unkillableTzeentch daemon combo and summoning.
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>>51812009
Guard players are generally bros, which is why I didn't group them with all those other faggots. The same goes for AdMech players, even those that bring WarConvo sometimes. Necron players are alright.
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>>51811810
Then have a good time and show interest in her like a normal human being.

Qt girls are often so used to spaghetti and bullshit pick up attempts that if they are/will be interested in you its best if you act like a normal human being.
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>>51812010
I am still going over the rules but I was in general thinking of this:

9-10 wyches in raider x2
incubi 4 with archon x2
voidraven
razorwing
Helion
Talos

what do you think?
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>>51812004
>think of her having a penis too
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>>51811963
>curly thinning hair in the front, back of the head is still thick
>Have to waste time combing my hair to hide
my dome from peeking out
>Hair style manages to look like Julius Caesar's curls in the front with a sad attempt to spread the rest out over the top of my head.
>Still manage to get crazy hair within a few hours making my styling useless
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>>51811990
Priests are crazy cheap too. I need allied CSM for what guard do with blobs but R&H are gifted with their point costs, zombies from Vraks although twice their initial point cost at 6ppm lost Slow and Purposeful. That's nuts. It's exactly what the unit needed.
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>>51811979
>>51812049
>plays literally the worst faction in the setting
>dares be condescending to anyone else
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>>51811978
They are a glass cannon still. They exploit cover saves better than anyone though so they do survive better
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>>51811979
>implying

I'm not going to bother digging through the archive to screencap the obnoxious faggot who outed himself as a DE player a few days ago, but I don't need to because I can just point at your own post and your own stupidity and inability to see that you're just another tribal faggot jerking over your own shitty faction like the people you're describing.
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>>51811907
Wasn't this week but like 2 months ago:
>dad checks out my models
>picks up Drop Pod
>not like a normal human being would but by pinching a single of its "wings" between to fingers at the very tip "not to break anything"
>wing was floppy already, wanted to fix it that week
>snaps off
>pod falls down
>smacks on shelf it was on
>falls down further
>smacks against box under it
>falls down further
>crashes on floor
>yell at him to just pick them up normally next time and not on the obviously most frail and weakest part of the entire model that is a literal block of plastic
>magically only said wing, the one on the other side of its adjacent door and the small plate on the top part of each door broke off clean where the glue was

I might have overreacted a bit but god dammit, sometimes that man's motoric skills are so bad one could think he has brain damage.
Yes, I apologized afterwards but I'm still pissed about it.
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>>51812074
do priests give zealot? I forget
I usually take comissars for that 9ld on orders
doing FRFSRF with conscripts is fucking hysterical
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>>51812087
>literally the worst faction in the setting
But I don't play Tau.

Calm yourself :^)___________________
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>>51812112
>>Taufags and anti-Taufags

So you complain about anti-Taufags yet are an ait-Taufag. Good job.
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>>51812123
you're being baited friend
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>>51812110
It is great and yes Priests give Zealot. I like them for Conscripts because I usually have a Psyker in there too. Forewarning with re-rolling Armor/Invuln saves with Conscripts is great.
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>>51812066
Once you get to the point you have to try and hide it you just need to shave it off.
Or you could always try waxing, it will hurt like shit, but supposedly if you pluck enough hairs simultaneously it can trigger growth where once there was just bald/
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>>51811699
Continuously point out that she is female and that it is unusual to see one of those playing, visibly sweat, act surprised whenever she makes a good decision.
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I know people probably don't care, but here's a pdf of Wrath of Magnus.

https://www.mediafire.com/?cmfmvrmjwcw1ljm

Thanks again to the anon who made me aware of the print to pdf function.
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>>51812161
can I slap her on the ass too?
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>>51812175
Yes, and also whistle at her.
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>>51812199
Ill also tell her that she smells nice and that shes beautiful

Then ill invite her to my mom's house after the game to watch steven universe
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>>51812175
Do it like those cliché Golf trainers in movies. Walk up behind her when she's moving models, get real close and move her hand with her as she moves around the plastic. Make sure to talk with the most smooth voice you can right into her ear and maybe hold her hips with your other hand close to you, not to accidentally "shove the table" as she's leaning forward to get her stuff deeper into the middle of it.
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This is all terrible advice for picking up women, Anonymous. What you really need to do is immediately whip out your penis and flail it around. This lets the female know you are receptive to mating. Then you open your tailfeathers and do the courtship dance.
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>>51812161
Once the game is about to end tell her that your time together has made you realize how important she is to you and how badly you need her, chicks dig that shit.
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place a bet that if you win she has to give you a kiss
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>>51812161
>"Yeah e-grubs is pretty much an autobuy, they're pretty worth the points. I don't think I've seen any Flyrants these days that don't take them. By the way, were you aware that you're a female?"
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>>51812293
A DEAL'S A DEAL, ANON.
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>>51811907
>just finished painting and applying decals to alpha legion havoks
>take them out to shed to apply varnish
>all goes well despite rainy day
>hour later stuff us dry, bring them inside
>fumble when trying to close door, drop one on laundry floor
>FUCK
>pick up model, inspect damage - must have landed on backpack because it popped right off, not a chip on the model anywhere
>glue pack on, proceed with basing
Thanks be to the gods
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>/tg/ - Dating
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>>51811794

Bump.
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>>51812316
>varnishing in the rain

Is your day job professional fire-ring jumping dare devil motorcycle rider?
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>>51811699
Make sure you arrive early and spread and spread some urine and cum around. The pheromones will drive her wild and put off any other males, making you appear stronger.
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>>51812304
You've asserted that she's an actual female, which is incorrect, you should state that she appears to be a female, but because this is unlikely given the nature of the hobby you should ask to confirm what her biological sex is.
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>>51812344
>"So like...post-op?"
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I'll take all of this advice to heart

Ill post again in 24 hours detailing the results
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>>51812344
>You've asserted that she's an actual female
>which is incorrect

Fuck my sides
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I was just rolling some dice.
My space marine captain killed this guy three times in a row. My ten point cheaper captain killed this guy 4 times in a row.
More worrisome is I was using my Tzeentch dice and I was rolling 4 dice at a time each and on three occasions I rolled three 6s and a 4 or a 5.
Do I have a problem with heresy?
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>>51812316
Nigga that's some good-ass converting you did.

Did you buy five boxes of Havocs just to get the Autocannons? And that looks like the Night Lords Contemptor head.

The Butcher Cannon looks pretty damn neat though.
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>>51812344
>assuming gender
>2017
He specified that she's thin and wears hipster-like clothes. Chances are high that he'll be called a biggot nazi if he goes that far, man.
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>>51812378
>thin chicks

Gross.
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>>51812332
I have not had a cloudy varnish incident since I stopped using gw varnish

Army painter
Tamiya
Estapol

All work well
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>>51812398

I use Army Painter. GW isn't even matte.
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>>51812378
That's why I told him that it's necessary to ask their biological sex before you refer to them as being male or female, due to the high probability that it is actually a man.
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>>51812330
Need Some thunder and lightning to be very very frightening
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>>51812375
*3 times in a row not 4.
Although I just rolled the dice and the Visarch killed him this time.

A guy at my flgs played the triumverate against Magnus and the Thousand Sons and got stomped, Red mcqueen got beaten to death by a bunch of dusty nerds without killing anything.
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Is the new eldar stuff out yet?

Does it make dark eldar viable?
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>>51812414
But asking for biological sex alone could be seen as implying that she might have been at one point of a certain gender and cis! Anon, you've got to be more careful!
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>>51811699
This is a trap.
While she appears "qt" to your beta virgin irl senses she is likely only a 5/10 at best.
So, why would this 5/10 be interested in playing warhammer? She's not. She's just decided to settle and knows that warhammer people are desperate, have low standards and have a bit of disposable income.

My advice to you is to avoid this vampire.
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>>51812377
Thanking you kindly anon

Head is from the forge world black legion dreadnought, gun us a butcher canon from the decimator seige engine

Havoks are all metals, collected over time though numerous second hand purchases, I like restoring chaos marines
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I have never ever seen a girl play this hobby out of her own interest. Theyre 100% of the time getting dragged along by their boyfriend and are obviously only doing it to make them happy
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>>51812381
good shit.
I want to start a Ynnari army but I have to clear my backlog first.
All of my backlog. Including my future backlog.
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>>51812461
>dragged around to do things they don't want to do just to make their man happy
>when it's usually the other way around

That's a keeper.
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>>51812416

I'm not sold on doing the lightning. Muh dudes are intended to be a Night Lords derivative, so I might experiment with some variations.
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>>51812481
>>51812381
This shit is sexy. Where is it from?

Would really dig a Warhammer game with that aesthetic and maybe decent gameplay.
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>>51811794
>I got a little autistic with it and added a lot of fluff to muh dudes.

Dude, we spend a shit-load of time, money, and effort on these damn things. It's absolutely normal to name and write fluff for them if you're the more creative type of person, especially if you're playing an army that you like the fluff of rather than just the crunch.

Question though - do you have the Traitor Legions supplement? Because I'd seriously recommend you get it. It's hugely useful for any Chaos player Yes, even Word Bearers or Iron Warriors.

To talk about your list though - what is it exactly you want them to do and what other types of armies do you expect to face?

As-is, your force is a little schitzo.

The biggest offender I can think of is the Predator. Either make it full-Lascannons, or replace the turret-las with the Autocannon. With its current armament, you're kind of "wasting" at least one of your weapons each turn no matter what you're firing at, as the Heavy Bolters aren't effective versus armor and the Lascannons are overkill against infantry.

The Plasma Gun seems a little odd, too. While it's good for taking out heavy infantry and light vehicles, its well-roundedness means that it needs to be used en masse in order to be effective against any amount of either. I'd personally replace it with either a Heavy Bolter for anti-infantry if you want it to camp (which I'm assuming you do) or give it a melta for effective anti-tank.

Alternatively, just replace the Chaos Marine squad with an additional Cultist squad, give both of them Heavy Stubbers, and let them sit back while your Rhino-squad engages the foe closer up.

It's not a BAD list, but it does lack polish and experience to actually be effective on the table.
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>>51812381
I'm really glad I went for a tropical theme with my craftworld. It just feels so fitting for Eldar
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>>51812416
Mama mia.
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>>51812461
>>51812482
Except they're not usually dragged around, they force themselves in because they're suspicious and want to keep tabs on what he's doing.
They soon get bored and fuck off when they realize that it's pussy repellent and there's no hidden sexiness going on.
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>>51812512
gotchu senpai
http://steeljoe.deviantart.com/art/Pixel-Tau-503024421
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>>51812172
Print to PDF in what application? Cause when I try it, the pages come up empty.
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>>51812172
>https://www.mediafire.com/?cmfmvrmjwcw1ljm

Ty anon, I cared.
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>>51812536
>no hidden sexiness going on.
>He doesnt play naked warhammer with his bara bros where the loser has to be bottom
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>>51812524
>It just feels so fitting for Eldar

How?
Eldar don't draw from anything tropical.
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>>51812383
>being high test
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>>51812375
Visarch is horrible, which is a shame, since he looks great. Hes just too many points and has no survivability, even wyches get an invuln in combat and he costs as much as 15 wyches.
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>>51812530
Mama mia
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>>51812550
oh shit I think it changed senpai to senpai
f a m
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>check /a/ while /40kg/ is slow
>Ork thread
The fuck?
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>>51812519

This is helpful advice and analysis, thanks!

I get your point about the Predator. I'd like to make it full lascannon to be my anti-armor solution, but I'll need to salvage the points from somewhere. Possibly by dropping the squad with the plasma gun for more cultists like you suggested.

>what is it exactly you want them to do and what other types of armies do you expect to face?

My plan was to have the Rhino ride into whatever shooty stuff my opponent brings and cast some dirge while the rape rang disembarks.

The other CSM squad is intended to fire and maneuver to give the Rhino group some cover and take out any tough-looking things I don't want to assault. The predator is my tankbuster, since the rest of my list is infantry. The cultists are cannon fodder / mobile cover for the shooty CSM squad.

I'm not really sure what I'll be facing. There are a couple of stores in my area where people play but I'm not sure how to set up a beginner-tier 500 point game or what people will bring.

Here's a question I'm confused about rules-wise. Because the Rhino is a dedicated transport for my close combat dudes, they can start the game embarked on it. What I can't figure out from the rules is if my Chaos Lord can start the game attached to that squad, and as a result also be embarked at deploy time.

Is that a thing I can do?
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>>51812435
So we are just assuming all females are actually MtF transexuals as to not offend actual MtF transexuals by suggesting that they were at one point men, because men are unacceptable?
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>>51812435
>Anon, you've got to be more careful!

The solution is to simply physically rape everyone you see. This way, you won't accidentally rape someone with your inconsiderate words.
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>>51812699
You're not allowed to make assumptions either.
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Almost finished my Start Collecting Skitarii box and need some fluff for my dudes to please my inner child.

So far I've got:
>based on ice world
>colors adapted as camo pattern
>Archmagos of the "gets shit done himself otherwise nobody would" kind with proper combat harness conversion for that is in planning right now
>Forge World under regular attacks by Orks due to surrounding systems being completely infested with them
>primary job to test newly found blueprints and find a way to make them work
>permanent Ork influence and their thoughts about "Shiny metal men exploding gits with weird shit usually never used" cause some of the prototypes to work
>prototypes stop working when Mars and other Forge Worlds try it out because no Orks
>Archmagos never gets any praise and barely supplies because he "never does his job properly"
>blames Orks sabotaging everything they send out making him incredibly suspicious of everyone
>constant cycle of being supplied with new tech to restore, only restoring it because Orks think the metal men really can make everything work, the now working stuff not working off planet, the Archmagos going on the field himself and brawling with whatever Warboss is currently on his doorstep to blow some steam and then getting the next assignment

Mostly need some feedback on how that sounds and some name ideas for Forge World and Magos because fuck am I bad with names.
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>>51812669
Just checked to see for myself.
Good thread.
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>>51812381
>scatter lasers shooting plasma bolts
>brightlance shooting plasma bolts
>D-scythes also shooting plasma bolts
RRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE DELET THIS
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>>51812748

I like the white/red cape thing they've got going on
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>>51812748
Lol at the Ork psychic field thing. Sounds very 40k, do it.
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>>51812730
Fulgrim pls.
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>>51812748
They look good! But names are always hard. Since you're using Skitarii, I recommend looking up Roman Mythology and picking a cool-sounding name from some obscure character. Then change the spelling a bit until it looks and sounds cool.
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>>51812748
sounds rad as heck
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>>51812748
Looks good! I've got mine in a backlog, those fiddly details are a god damn nightmare.
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>>51812560
Calibre, but within the viewer itself there's a big"print to PDF" button on the bottom left. It takes 10-12 hours to process and then you have to crop the huge white borders off, but it comes out pretty nice.
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>>51812748
That's a hilarious backstory.

Namewise, I'd try to find a culture that fits the attitude of your army and churn out a pseudo-name with google translate. Maybe your Magos could have a name like "exasperation" in Greek or czech.
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>>51811920

I love Pidgeon girl, but I was a little surprised to see the second picture of her (pic related) because I'm not a fan of tats.

Anyway, good luck with that spaghetti and never forgetti that girls are just people, too.
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>>51812769
>>51812855
>>51812910
>>51812938
>>51812962
>>51813035
Thanks for all that positive feedback! Gonna go and look up some names I could butcher to use for my Archmagos, the planet and maybe a Skitarii Primus or something.
Might actually also sit down and see if I can't come up with some customized Magos by editing Cawl's statline a bit and changing the weaponry/warlord trait around. Was thinking of giving him a Heavy Phosphor Flamer (basically the Kastelans' flamer in heavy with Luminagen and MAYBE AP 3 at close range) and a unique melee weapon in form of a disproportionally huge AdMech cane that he uses as a mace. Maybe base stats like a Power Maul but Master Crafted, with Haywire, Two-Handed and AP 2, though I feel like that is pushing it and would need some serious testing. Though I guess Haywire at like 7 or 8 strength is often going to be pointless anyway.
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>>51811779

Blasterborn are pretty good at hunting Riptides. Take a purge coterie (the SC! Formation), upgrade the warriors to Trueborn, give them blasters, give the Archon a blaster and WWP(I guess you don't NEED it), and go hunt some Riptides.

Also, feel free to ignore them and go after their market lights and objective holders instead.
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Any suggestions?

The greater reward on the pyrocaster is going to be a mutating warpblade.
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>>51813111
>2 FMCs at 1k points
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>>51813061
Actually, scrap that flamer idea immediately. I just noticed how disgusting a heavy flamer that can be placed several inches away with Luminagen on top of it is. A regular 12" Heavy Flamer with Luminagen is gonna be way enough with also having a +2 S, AP 2, Concussive, Haywire, Master-Crafted, Two-Handed melee weapon.
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>>51812024
>Orks and nids
>Worse or less interesting than Chaos
>Orks not a better antagonist than literally:
>DADDY DIDN"T SUCK ME OFF OFTEN ENOUGH WHILE HE WAS RUNNING A LITERAL GALACTIC EMPIRE REEEEEE TIME TO DOOM LITERALLY EVERYONE FOREVER
>Literally just Hot Topic/Unwashed Grognard caked in skin oil and stale sweat Chapter Tactics space marines

Chaos is generally fucking trash. At least Orks, Nids and Dark Eldar are fun and interesting.

I can at least enjoy Chaos Daemons conceptually, along with guard renegades. But Chaos Marines? Fuck right off. Especially fucking Emperors Children/Alpha Legion.
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Vostroyan 93rd Infrantry Regiment [1492/1500 Point Cities of Death Army List]


[CAD]
HQ
Company Command Squad, 178 Points
>Camo Gear, Astropath, Master of Ordinance, Medipack, Regimental Standard, Grenade Launcher, Vet w/Lasgun, Tallarn Desert Raiders

Troops
Veterans, 105 Points
>Forward Sentries, Tallarn Desert Raiders, Flamer, Heavy Bolter

Veterans, 105 Points
>Forward Sentries, Tallarn Desert Raiders, Flamer, Heavy Bolter

Veterans, 94 Points
>Forward Sentries, Tallarn Desert Raiders, x2 Sniper Rifles

Veterans, 140 Points
>Demolitions, Tallarn Desert Raiders, x3 Meltaguns

Fast Attack
Armoured Sentinel Squadron, 150 Points
>x3 Sentinels w/ Lascannons, Camogear

Scout Sentinel Squadron, 150 Points
>x3 Sentinels w/Multilasers, Camogear

Valkyrie, 135 Points
>x2 Hellstrike Missiles, Lascannon

Heavy Support
Wyvern Battery, 240 Points
>x3 Wyverns, Camo Netting

PSYKANA DIVISION

HQ
Primaris Psyker, 75 Points
>Force Axe, ML2

Elite
Wyrdvane Psykers, 60 Points
>x5 Psykers

Wyrdvane Psykers, 60 Points
>x5 Psykers

Basic idea is that they're veterans of fighting in hive worlds and been fighting in the cities of death for so long they're naturals, as represented by their equipment and Tallarn rules. Hopefully I'll pick up the stealth in ruins warlord trait with Ideal Commander for 2+ Cover saves on most of my guys. Does this sound like a strong force that sacrifices no fluff?
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>>51813151
Orks in general are more fun and interesting than Chaos, definitely. But "stupid space mushroom raiders in Mad Max cars" really is no good premise for a main antagonist.
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>>51813151
>DE, Daemons, Renegades
>BUT NOT CSM

You're just a massive faggot of an edgelord who happens to hate marines is all.
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>>51813151
>only the original traitor legions exist
>they are all Word Bearers/Black Legion
>ADB portrays HH accurately

This is you right now.
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>>51813151
Tell me where the chaos marine touched you anon
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>>51811652
this fucking IDIOT didn't tag it as /40kg/

what is fucking WRONG WITH YOU
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Rate my list, /tg/. Getting into chaos; had a first little 500 point game today with the basic force organization chart, realized that I really need more anti-tank than noise marines can provide, so I've abandoned my dreams of a full six-unit Kakaphoni so I can bring enough meltas and power fists to actually deal with enemy vehicles. Emperor's Children Rapture Battallion, 2000 points (well, 1999, but close enough)

Core

Chaos Warband
Chaos Bikers [2x Chaos Biker, Mark of Slaanesh, 2x Meltagun, Veterans of the Long War]
-Chaos Biker Champion [Bolt Pistol, Power Fist]
Chaos Lord [Bike, Combi-bolter, Mark of Slaanesh, Power Armour, Power Fist, Sigil of corruption, Veterans of the Long War]
Chaos Space Marines [4x Chaos Marine with Boltgun, Chaos Rhino, Mark of Slaanesh, Meltagun, Veterans of the Long War] x2
-Aspiring Champion [Bolt Pistol, Boltgun, Close Combat Weapon] x2
Chosen [Chaos Rhino, 4x Chosen with Boltgun, CCW and Boltpistol, Mark of Slaanesh, 4x Replace boltgun w/ Meltagun, Veterans of the Long War]
-Chosen Champion [Bolt Pistol, Boltgun, Power Fist]
Helbrute [Multi-melta]
-Power fist [Heavy flamer]

Kakophoni
Chaos Lord [Close Combat Weapon, Combi-bolter, Mark of Slaanesh, Power Armour, Sigil of corruption, Veterans of the Long War, Warlord]
Noise Marines [4x Noise Marines, Replace Boltgun w/ Blastmaster, 3x Replace Boltgun w/ Sonic Blaster, Veterans of the Long War] x3
-Noise Champion [Close Combat Weapon, Doom Siren, Plasma Pistol] x3

Auxiliary

Raptor Talon
Chaos Lord [Jump Pack, Mark of Slaanesh, Power Armour, Power Fist, Sigil of corruption, Veterans of the Long War]
Raptors [Mark of Slaanesh, 2x Meltagun, 4x Raptor, Veterans of the Long War] x2
-Raptor Champion [Bolt Pistol, Power Fist] x2
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>>51813151
I LOVE how you tried to stick your space edgelords with the actual fun and interesting villains. DEldar are the WORST part of 40k and make even your description of Chaos seem amazing by comparisson.
>literally ruin everything for everyone because they're a bunch of disgusting degenerates
>do horrible things to other people to save their sorry assess from the mess they've caused
>so edgy they make Chaos look subtle
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for an imperial knight do I go battlecannon or melta gun

I was given the poverty set as a present so no fists or gatling guns or carapace weapons
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>>51813206
Always battle cannon. The only argument that can be made for the melta cannon is that it has range synergy with the gatling cannon but if you don't even get that as a choice then don't bother.
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>>51811699
Actual advice: before you sperg out get to know this woman and figure out if there's any inkling of a connection between you two. Just treat her like one of the guys for now.

but yeah also work on your appearance vis a vis >>51811970 >>51812004
re: moles on head, if you play 40k you're probably not very poor. why not get a dermatologist consult?
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Reposting again because I only received one non-meme reply last thread and it was basically ">shredders >costanza dot jaypeg"

>Archon, 140 points
Agoniser, shadow field, the armour of misery
>Incubi, 145 points
4 Incubi and a Venom with second splinter cannon
>Warriors, 180 points
10 Warriors, 1 splinter cannon, in a Raider with night shields and splinter racks
>Warriors, 110 points
5 Warriors, 1 shredder, in a Venom with second splinter cannon
>Warriors, 110 points
5 Warriors, 1 shredder, in a Venom with second splinter cannon
>Reavers, 63 points
3 Reavers, cluster caltrops
>Reavers, 63 points
3 Reavers, cluster caltrops
>Reavers, 63 points
3 Reavers, cluster caltrops
>Ravager, 125 points
Ravager with 3 disintegrator cannons and night shields

Is this okay for casual play, Y/N?
t. 40k newfag

Thanks
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40k died when second ed ended.
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>>51813226
it's ok if your opponent builds a somewhat competitive list but it's a little too tuned to be "casual"

unless I missed a memo where shredders do literally nothing

here's an idea: play a game, and see what happens
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>>51813226
You are really going to struggle against vehicles, and a single Dreadnought will roll over you. Otherwise it's fine.
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>>51813181
>10,000 years old
>Educated people
>Understood why the crusade was happening
>Rebelled and damned mankind because daddys said too

Chaos marines are worthless as are overt "Hur dur chaos is da best" renegade guard.
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>>51812049
>Playing an "alternative" army makes me cool and better than you
You know everyone chose not to play your shit army, right?
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Does anyone have that ridiculously small Daemons list that was floating around? I think it was like 5-6 models tops and completely cheese.
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>>51813215
the biggest argument is that the thermal cannon offers something new to the army, while the battle-cannon is pretty much more anti-blob or more anti-armour

while the thermal cannon is a unique anti-superheavy kind of which is why you'd take it over the battle-cannon

I might magnetize though
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>>51813182
ABD is garbage and should be fired.
Word Bearers and Black Legion are hot topic faggots. So are their players.

>>51813200
>Slave raiders that do what they do to millions, maybe billions in order to keep their souls from being consumed by a thirsting god they made on accident, none of whome chose the life they lead at this point and few of which have any means of escape that isn't "Suffer literally eternally." With fun things like turning enemies into sentient soups and adding hawk wings to themselves literally because they have more money than sense.
>Being on the same scale as people that damned trillions upon trillions of people and humanities only hope for survival, because their fathers told them too.

This is how I know you've never read anything about Dark Eldar.
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>>51813297
It's basically this.
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>>51813297
Like this?
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>>51813310
Thank you.
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>>51813321
good luck, I brought five knights
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>>51813323
No problem, but be aware that the list is cheese because it capitalizes on summoning free shit. If you wanted to actually play it you'd need to buy a bunch of daemon gribblies and Heralds to toolbox.

>>51813325
>Knights
>good against flying psychic D machines
>in a 1250 list
Your only chance would be to play objectives, which the Daemons player would destroy you in via summoning.
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>>51813325
Good luck being stuck behind a wall of horrors.
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>>51813247
>play a game, and see what happens

My first game is scheduled for ~2 weeks from now in the hope that it's not entirely greyshit. We will see, it might end up being greyshit. I'll have to proxy some of the models either way. And thanks anon, I didn't realize that was going to be above casual. I was worried it would be below casual lel

>>51813250

There are no non-transport vehicles in the other guy's list but I'll keep that in mind for expanding to 1250, thank you too, anon
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>>51813042
>razor tattoo on wrist
soiled
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>>51813340
Yeah it's mostly for the laughs then any sort of real competitiveness, I was considering picking up Daemons as an army and thought it would be nice to have a weird ass alt-build for them.
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>>51813358
stomp stomp stomp

>>51813340
anti-flyer carapace + grounding test = throwing dead bodies around like it's bloodbowl
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>>51813310
What warlord trait table do you roll on? I tend to favor the Tzeentch table.
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>>51811787
When I run Bullyboyz I give 2 each killsawz. If you have a squad of 5 charge a knight, 2 or 3 will probably die, but between 5 ws 5 attacks between them with armor bane, its almost a guaranteed kill.
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>>51813379
>stomp stomp stomp
Thanks for giving me more bodies to surround your knights with.
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What's the best loadout for a genecults leman Russ in a cavalcade? I feel like a lot of the bases are pretty much covered by acolytes
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How does this look for casual play
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>>51813379
One autocannon per Knight isn't going to cut it my friend. Again, you'd have about three of them at 1250. You would struggle to down the flying LoCs, let alone deal with the hordes of Horrors they shit out.
>Stomp
Split.

>>51813388
Tzeentch now and forever. I played the Infernal Tetrad back when it was new when I realized you could get a Khorne psyker Prince, and I've rolled Tzeentch ever since. Not that I actually use the formation that much, but it's a laugh when I do.
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>>51813425
>casual

Probably fine.
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>>51813303
What army are you playing that would appreciate a shorter ranged meltagun over a two-shot piece of ordnance? Guard?

Remember that the melta is statistically inferior against all targets barring TEQ and AV14. The thing is, the Knight has a melee weapon for that.
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>>51813306
>in order to keep their souls from being consumed by a thirsting god they made on accident
Boo-hoo who gives a shit, they're literally sacrificing others to save themselves from a problem they created. Besides, it's not like they tripped and broke a vase or some shit, they literally murderfucked Slaanesh into existence, that's absolutely unprecedented debauchery and degeneracy. Also, they created the Eye of Terror, you know, CHAOS' ONLY ACCESS TO REALITY. They're literally to blame for Chaos being a problem at all.
>none of whome chose the life they lead at this point
Show me ONE DEldar that isn't a gleeful sadistic monster viewing all other species as cattle and prey. You're literally the first person i saw try to make them out as tragic. They're monsters, and they revel in it. They're also cowards. Literally the worst faction in the setting.
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>>51813410
I went full anti armour. melta sponsons, las cannon, vanquisher cannon. Vehicles are easy to blow up, i like to make sure they do. I have one with the battle cannon and 3 heavy bolters but i only use it if im up against a horde
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>>51813501
>the Eye of Terror, you know, CHAOS' ONLY ACCESS TO REALITY. They're literally to blame for Chaos being a problem at all.

Forget reading about Dark Eldar, you clearly don't know anything abotu Chaos or really 40k at all if you actually non-ironically believe this to be true. Have my (You), but on the off chance that you are actually this retarded and aren't just baiting, why don't you at least read a wiki before spouting this kind of bullshit?
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>>51812007
Instead of two subpar crusader squads at the bottom, why not 1 naked crusader squad and one 4 Lascannon Dev squad?
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>>51813501
>How dare they eat hamburgers
>A species incapable of anything that isn't extreme emotion expressed extreme emotion and I find this inexcusable
>They made one, of several, warp rifts, and one that if entirely dissipated, wouldn't even make chaos less of a problem, it'd just make eldar more powerful and prosperous
>I don't know that many Dark Eldar flee the Dark City the minute they get a spirit stone.
>Who are the Ynnari? Don't be stupid, Dark Eldar would never stop murderfucking, they love it so much!

Idiot.
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>>51813501
>the Eye of Terror, you know, CHAOS' ONLY ACCESS TO REALITY.

Right now you're gonna go check Lexicanum and find out that you just said something stupid and wrong.

Don't backpedal once you've realized your mistake.

Don't say "of course I meant their only MAJOR access to reality in the sense that it's where black crusades are launched from I wasn't thinking about other warp storms and minor rifts or cultists"

everyone will see right through it.

Just apologize for being so obnoxious.
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>>51813501
>Being the bad guys makes them the worst faction

You're a huge faggot. Why are you on 4chan? Isn't leddit perhaps more your style, xir?

>they're literally sacrificing others to save themselves from a problem they created.

So is humanity, though.
>HURR DURR TIME FOR REPRESSION AND EXTERMINATUS LOL
>why, sir?
>Oh because we didn't tell anyone about Chaos like the Interex did but now something bad happened so we better commit interstellar genocide for the crimes of being born and/or not being human lel

Every single faction in 40k is grimdark. Stop pretending whatever faggot faction you play are the good guys; they are not.

>Also, they created the Eye of Terror, you know, CHAOS' ONLY ACCESS TO REALITY.

What is the Maelstrom?
What are Warp Storms?
What is the Webway?
What is the human Webway the Emperor built under the golden toilet?
What is summoning?
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>>51813450
>>51813215
>>51813206

What if I use the errant as gerantius, so 3+ invulnerable save, shoot + run, it will not die?
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>>51813559
You raise a good point, actually.
If the Dark Eldar were to wake one day and discover that the Thirst was completely gone, no strings attached, for whatever reason, would it just be business as usual or would they try to figure out a new way of living?
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>>51813501
Personally, i love how unapologetically evil they are, they are one of the most over the top things in 40k. So many factions have reasons and explanations for the horrible things they do, for a dark eldar its just tuesday, time to skin someone while keeping them alive for centuries.
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>>51813584
That'd be fine, because Gerantius has other stuff going for him that makes him decent.

>inb4 lmao dies as soon as the game starts from lack of S
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>>51813586
why would they?

Remember that the eldar created slaanesh on their own.

Sure Slaansh influenced them a little with dreams and inspirations, but they were already depraved assholes before Slaanesh existed.

So even if you remove the thirst they'll still be huge assholes.
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>>51813610
but the dark eldar DO have reasons and explanations:

they die if they don't kill. and then they get tortured for eternity
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>>51813586
They have known about ways to avoid slaanesh for 10,000 years, but sex, drugs and torture are more fun. Its not like all of commoragh will just find a higher power and join aa.
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>>51813586
Probably gravitate towards more corsairish way of living. The excessive brutality of their culture would slowly fade away (wych arenas as source of nourishment, unnecessary cruelty of haemonculus) but they'd still be bunch of major dickheads.

Also why are DE using paperplanes like Ravagers again? Fracture of Biel-Tan showed us they can use Falcon-chassis in webway just fine, even huge monstrosities like Wraith Knights.
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>>51813665
Falcons don't have pimpthrones or a deck to parade your bitches while you fight.
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>>51813195

Don't like bumping my own post htat much, but I'd like some feedback in the list, seeing where it might be able to be improved and all that.
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>>51813665
ravagers are cool

they're literally based on the Eldar equivalent of a luxury yacht.

falcons are just wraithbone boxes that fly
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>>51813665
How am I supposed to bark orders to my underlings or get my dick sucked by my slaves if I'm not in an open-topped vehicle?
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>>51813523
>>51813572
Ok, should have worded better, but without the Eye of Terror Chaos wouldn't have NEARLY the influence it has. Certainly not enough to fuck the Great Crusade. Fuck, most of those chaos worshipers that corrupted Horus and Lorgar are the direct result of the warpstorms and daemonic possessions during The Fall.
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>>51813612
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>>51813640
Yeah they have a reason but they dont take slaves and make them fight in an arena then go home and say "man what are we doing with our lives". They dont sit and brood about their choices, they get fucked up and do it again tomorrow
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>>51813579
>>Being the bad guys makes them the worst faction
No, being a bunch of painfully edgy faggots does. Necrons are FAR more compelling villains. Especially before Ward fucked them.
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>>51813665
I'm pretty sure it's just a matter of what each faction had available at the time. Craftworlders were fleeing their homeworlds in expectation of a tragedy, so they have more tanks and military equipment for survival. Dark Eldar was just a smattering of luxury ports and cities in the webway that were doing business as usual, so while they have some of the Eldar's more bizarre pre-fall tech available, they're also stuck with civilian vehicles covered in extra spikes.
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>>51813688
>they're literally based on the Eldar equivalent of a luxury yacht.

This, don't forget how important appearances are in the Dark City. It's why a Tantalus is worth so much (it looks pretty cool and is hard to get, so "fuck you other Archons, you can't afford it but I can! haha!"). It's also why in the books when a raid fails everyone is like "went great lol" because to do otherwise would be to invite the vultures.
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>>51813718
>Necrons are FAR more compelling villains. Especially before Ward fucked them.
Well now we know you just have completely shit taste and we can safely disregard your opinions. Oldcrons are L I T E R A L L Y mindless robots, how the fuck are they compelling villains? Beep boop kill everything isn't interesting or fucking compelling.
>the C'tan
40k doesn't need more asshole gods.
>Pariahs
Literally the only interesting thing about the entire faction.
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>>51813718
>Necrons are FAR more compelling villains

>all they want to do is eat cheese
>no personalities
>no motivations
>no reason to fight unless they're attacked
>compelling

have you ever read a book or watched a movie?
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>>51813718
>Necrons are FAR more compelling villains. Especially before Ward fucked them.

Yeah, "BEEP BOOP MURDER, BEEP BOOP MURDER, BEEP BOOP MURDER" is super compelling, anon. Wearing flayed skin isn't even remotely edgy. Wanting to exterminate all life isn't even remotely edgy. Being the slave to an evil star God is far better than being under the threat of an evil warp God.

:^)
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>>51813734
>they have some of the Eldar's more bizarre pre-fall tech available

>but their monofilament weapons are complete garbage compared to craftworlders
Something doesn't add up. I thought the codex was supposed to be balanced?
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>>51813707
And most Imperial soldiers wouldn't blink if they were ordered to torch a Xeno settlement filled with nothing but women and children (or the equivalent thereof)
Humans and Eldar of all stripes are convinced that all other forms of life are beneath them, to be wiped out or conquered as they so will.
There is, quite literally, nothing for them to brood over.
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>>51813742
>>51813756

Beepboopmind/godmind/hivemind
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>>51811889
>I hope your bucket has a bigger capacity because I can go 10 times
How autistic do you have to be to think that this is even close to flirty?
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>>51811907
Either that's bullshit or you need to stop using Elmer's glue on your minis.
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>>51813779
he's from /v/
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Just finished playing dawn of war, and I absolutely loved it. Any other 40k games with a good story like DOW?
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>>51813742
>>51813749
>>51813756
>a bunch of ancient, immortal, unstoppable terminator-eque skellybots with arcane technollogy and horrifying gods leading them seeking to destroy all life isn't scary
>but my chemical romance: space elf edition is
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>>51813779
That's the part you take issue with?
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>>51811889
I hate to juggle but I'd like to snuggle isn't that bad
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>>51813794
>DoW
>good story
A-anon... The gameplay is excellent but the story is tripe.

Space Marine has a vaguely better story. Also Total War Warhammer is meant to be good if you like WHFB.
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>>51813794
Winter Assault (play the Imperial Guard for the best damn Imperial General of all time), Dark Crusade, and then just skip to DOW II
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>>51813368
Yeah, that's the warning sign. Not the multiple cut scars on her wrist and forearm.
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>>51813803
Murderbots is such an overdone cliche that its hard to take it seriously, even back in 3rd when they played the Terminator-esque aspect harder.
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>>51813767
>constantly betray humanity
>lead trillions of them to the slaughter to save a couple Eldar
>"HURRR WHY WON'T HUMANITY LISTEN TO MY WARNINGS"
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>>51813806
Sure, there are plenty other questionable ones, but not as many that are as insulting.
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>>51813814

It's the first WH40K thing I finished, what's wrong with it?
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>>51813677
>>51813688
>>51813691
These are all totally valid arguments.
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>>51813861
I thought the fact that it's a spreadsheet of smash puns would be enough.
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>>51813855
I'm sorry, I don't see your point.
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>>51813794
The story continues in dow 2 and then dow 2 chaos rising.
If you are not bored you can play dow 2 retribution, but is the worse of the 3 in my opinion.

Dow 2 is very different, it's between an rpg and a rts.
It can be strange in the beginning, but is not that bad, i loved it
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>>51813816
>Winter Assault
>hurr why does my luck keep turning out so good, can't be the Emperor Commissar no sirree, what the fuck even is an elder anyway, some kind of abhuman? Oh shit they've turned on us! Curse their sudden but inevitable betrayal!
>good
The best thing about Sturnn was that in the Eldar side he survives the Chaos onslaught through pure grit, comes back, gets blown up by a Titan going nuclear and still fucking lives
>hurr the Chaplain was daemons all along guise

Gorgutz is, without a doubt, the best thing about Winter Assault, no competition whatsoever.
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>>51813886
Gorgutz is in a league of his own in terms of characters, if we're being honest.
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>>51813863
It's full of cliches, the Farseer is a caricature and should be ashamed of what her leadership brought about, the Marines are caricatures, Every single character on the Chaos side is a walking stereotype and they FUCKING SHAT ALL OVER the Alpha Legion's MO, Khorne Lord uses a Manreaper, Tzeentch SORCERER invokes Khorne, etc.

Overall a solid 11/10 would pleasure myself to Sindri's voice again.

If you liked it, play DoW2 and CHaos Rising, it goes into a little more depth about the story and salvages some of it. Dark Crusade (pick Marines) optional, but recommended.
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I'll be having a 2v2 2000 point tournament this week. (1k pts per player) I made this list in a haste, I dont expect it to be super competitive but I made a list that is different from the harvest + decurion in a 1k. What do you guys think...
.
My ally is a space wolf with a stormfang, drop pods and thunder wolves.
Can this work? Or am I in for a beating.
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>>51812730
So at the end of this conversation we have determined that before the game starts Anon needs to forcibly rape his opponent to avoid any awkwardness.
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>>51813944
Do you like the people you're playing against? Do they get to see your list before hand?
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>>51813922
>tfw slimy grot calling himself Gorgutz is at the helm in DoW3
>tfw monkey's pawed so hard it physically hurts
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>>51813978
>
nope, they can't.

Most of the players are part of our gaming club so most of them are friends. Thats the reason I didnt go full decurion with a harvest.
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>>51813042
>cutting scars

why is literally every semi-attractive girl damaged
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>>51814028
>Thats the reason I didnt go full decurion with a harvest.
Two flyers is worse imo. Decurion is just survivability where as this is immune to normal shooting basically.
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>>51814077
why is literally every neckbeard on /tg/ unattractive and socially awkward
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>>51814122
>projections
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>>51814100
Cron flyers aren't that great anymore.
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>>51814100
really never thought of it that way. I generally suck at reserve rolls.

and we're gonna be sitting ducks, specially the grey hunters, if the stormfang and scythes get delayed.

can this list work? one strategy im thinking about is to camp objectives and snipe high value targets with the storm fangs and scythes.
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>>51814122
Because you only get into this kind of hobby if you're like that


Attractive, well adjusted people go on trips or go rock climbing or some shit with their money
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>>51814100
I bring 3 dakkajets to literally every game above 1250 points

Am I an asshole?
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>>51813803

>scary

You said "compelling" at first, which they certainly are not. They're mindless stormtrooper mooks with an added element of murderbot9000.
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>>51814140
speak for yourself, almost everyone at my local gw are attractive well adjusted men with families

the spergs are shunned
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>>51814149
depends what the rest of your points are spent on

orks or allies?

(also dakkajets aren't that great in 7e)
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>>51814161
I'm sure
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>>51814170
Nobz in battlewagons
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>>51814122
I'm attractive and social, speak for yourself creature.
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>>51814140

40k requires disposable income, which can preclude a lot of undesirables from entry to the hobby. My local store is something like this:
>40% normal people
>20% white collar reformed nerds
>20% spoiled teenagers
>10% harmless but awkward nerds
>10% neckbeard bogeyman (most of whom are reasonably pleasant despite their abhorrent hygiene and physique)
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>>51814180
6/10

if you wanted to be 10/10 they'd be nobz in nauts
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>>51813993
monkey's pawed?
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>>51814186
it's not the disposable income which is the barrier

because I see lots of fucking goblins who sling magic cards
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>>51814140

But mom, normie hobbies are boooooring
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>>51814139
>can this list work?
This entire ist comes down to this
>Do they have enough AV/skyfire?
If no you win. If yes you lose. So probably?
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>>51814219
nope,

not much flyers and anti air as far as i am aware.

a few flyrants and a stormraven is all there is. Also, only 1 tau player.
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Would I be that guy if I took 3 Avenger Strike Fighters with my Sisters?

>pic related
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>>51814202
Everyone wished Gorgutz would come back in the next DoW after having been disappointingly absent in DoW2.

After seeing what they've come up with, we're sure sorry we wished for that.
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>>51814243
>what am I seeing in this gif?
>o-oh

Also not really unless you also bring 3 Exorcists. Sisters direly lack anti-air outside of 60 multi-meltas
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>>51813651
>Ways to avoid slaanesh

Like getting access to a resource that can only be mined from worlds INSIDE the eye of terror, and they need billions if not trillions of the fucking fist sized things.
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>>51814252
>>51813993
>slimy grot calling himself Gorgutz
What did they do to him?
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>>51814240
Flyrants will rip a scythe apart if you don't kill it first.
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>>51814240

He was it's a WAAC gimmick list and therefore shit (not as in "it won't win" but as in "why even play?"). I don't know enough about Necrons to tell if that's the case.

>>51814206

Magic is a special case though because they will spend 90% of their income on it while living with their parents and leeching food and rent. I don't know any 40k people like that, although I don't doubt that some exist. Go start a /tg/ thread on /r9k/ and see who shows up the most.

My guess, in order:
>online-only RPG players
>MTGfags
>40kfags
>in-person RPG players
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>>51814308
>spend 90% of their income on it while living with their parents and leeching food and rent. I don't know any 40k people like that

Sup
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>>51811699
Remember she's still people. Treat her like a normal person and it'll be all good.
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>>51814272
>dude, check out this gun
>fucking sick...
>...
>...lets give it wings!

And that's how the BRRRRRT plane was born.

Seriously though, in love how Sisters only flier is essentially a fucking A-10, and I might treat myself with tad money and finally get one. They ain't cheap, even from chinaman.
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>>51811889
It shits me that I have no idea if he was trolling or just a legit autist.
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>>51813749
>>no reason to fight unless they're attacked

Have you read Necron lore old or new? The Oldcrons were slowly rising and projecting their forces across the galaxy. Attacking human worlds to harvest them, attacking the Eldar, attacking Chaos, etc. All to restore the C'tan's Empire of Destruction.

So please get out. You lost the right to talk.
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>>51813742
>40k doesn't need more asshole gods.

Yes, it does. You got Ynnead who is an asshole so if you are okay with Ynnead then you are a hypocrite.

Also AoS/WHFB has tons of pantheons, each for every deity. Many of the them are dark and evil reflecting their people's darkest aspects. Again if you are okay with fantasy having a lot of gods but 40K having just one set of gods, then you should KYS.
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>>51813579
>What is the Maelstrom?

Some small ass Warpstorm. The rest are small breaches.

The Eye of Terror is an existential threat to the universe that will erase all of existence. The only thing that stopped it from doing that is the freak accident of the Necrons building Pylons on Cadia. Now they are gone.

>Every single faction in 40k is grimdark.

Tau are more nobledark.
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>>51814476
>You got Ynnead who is an asshole
Ynnead is both an ancient, ancient 40k concept, and not an asshole.

>if you are okay with Ynnead then you are a hypocrite.
Where in any of my posts did I say I was okay with Ynnead memery?

>Also AoS/WHFB has tons of pantheons
>if you are okay with fantasy having a lot of gods but 40K having just one set of gods
I must have missed the part where this conversation switched to being about Fantasy.

What I'm seeing here is nothing but goalpost moving and a shitty attempt at a strawman, anon.
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>>51814514
>Some small ass Warpstorm

It's the second biggest warp anomaly as per canon, and is a big enough threat that 4+ Chapters were assigned solely to watch it. I think (but I'm not 100% on this) that that's more than watch the Ghoul Stars and all we know about those are that something BTFO the Imperium so fucking hard that nobody's allowed to go near them anymore.

>Tau are more nobledark.

Pheromone mind control Stalinism is nobledark?
inb4 "that hasn't been speculated in-universe in the current edition," I was flipping through the Tau codex this morning and it says something like,
>Other races believe something darker may be at work. Indeed, if an Ethereal told a Fire Caste warrior to kill himself he would do it without hesitation, such is their commitment to the greater good.
Plus the whole Farsight thing.
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>>51811699
Don't be autistic.
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>>51814540
>Ynnead is both an ancient, ancient 40k concept, and not an asshole.

Younger than the C'tan who were mentioned in 2nd.

And he is pretty much an asshole who is mentioned to be a cruel deity laughing at the suffering of the Dark Eldar as they were suffering withdrawal.

>Where in any of my posts did I say I was okay with Ynnead memery?

All of it. Because I did not see you complain about it in the generals.

>I must have missed the part where this conversation switched to being about Fantasy.

The point is this setting can have plenty of deities like its sister setting and everything other setting. Saying we need to limit ourselves to just one set of them is dumb as hell and a non-point.
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>>51813042
>touching wild pigeons and sparrows
It's like she's begging for psittacosis. Definite qt though.
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>>51814285
His voice acting is kinda lame and gamplaywise he is a blitzkank-pudge now. Powerclaw hook, sigh.

He changed klan for no apparent reason. Also he has a free hand and no shoota in it! What kind of warboss is dat?!
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>>51814592
>Free hand
He should have a goddamn kombi-kombi weapon in it
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>>51814186
Put perfectly.
Live in the GTA, area being taken over by pooloos and mudslimes. Hitting GW once or twice a week is a nice escape.
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>>51814609
If they wanted him to be a purely melee guy they could at least give him a buzzsaw or someother whacky secondary melee weapon. That free arm looks derpy.
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>>51814554
>It's the second biggest warp anomaly as per canon

Small compared to the Eye and definitely small compared to its potential. The Eye actual size is the whole galaxy and beyond.

The only reason the Fall of the Eldar wasn't the "Fall of the Galaxy" is because a Cryptek decided to build some pillars on Cadia, It was dumb luck. Do you understand the implications here? The Eldar nealy blew up the galaxy. They are the real bad guys!

>>Other races believe something darker may be at work. Indeed, if an Ethereal told a Fire Caste warrior to kill himself he would do it without hesitation, such is their commitment to the greater good.

A marine or a faithful guy in the Imperium could be told to do this leaders and he would to it gladly.

With the Tau it's about intentions. They are not overtly hostile, they don't hate alien life, and they seek to unite all the races of the galaxy in enlightenment and peace.

The other races other than the Eldar desire the utter extermination and/or enslave of all life.

>Plus the whole Farsight thing.

Farsight's main issue is the Ethereals hiding the truth about Chaos. In that they did nothing wrong as per the Emperor's wise logic : Ignorance is the best weapon against Chaos.
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>>51814575
>the C'tan who were mentioned in 2nd
The C'tan did not officially exist until the Necron codex that dropped in 3rd.

>he is pretty much an asshole who is mentioned to be a cruel deity laughing at the suffering of the Dark Eldar as they were suffering withdrawal
[citation needed]
Ynnead is a gestalt psychic entity born of the Eldar race's desire for salvation and/or vengeance, it's not an asshole compared to Slaanesh, who was created in a similar way except by emotions of unbridled hedonism and assholishness.

>All of it. Because I did not see you complain about it in the generals.
>not complaining about something that isn't relevant to what we're discussing means I'm okay with it
Alright.

>this setting can have plenty of deities like its sister setting and everything other setting
Entirely false. The """""sister setting""""" is distinct enough from 40k that it can follow a different set of rules, and any other setting need not be bound by your arbitrary opinions that more gods is better.

>Saying we need to limit ourselves to just one set
Except I didn't say this. I said that 40k does not need ANY MORE asshole gods. There are more asshole gods than just the Chaos Gods.

>non-point
That's a non-word. You are grasping at straws my man.
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>>51814575
>Younger than the C'tan who were mentioned in 2nd.
Only via a name-drop in the Assassins Codex, which mentioned that Callidus phase-swords were C'tan relics. They weren't even linked to Necrons until the 3rd edition Codex.
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>>51813042
>lifeless hair that's obviously been dyed and bleached multiple times
>cutting scars
This is a recipe for disaster.
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>>51814628
Disasters can be fun though, to a point.
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>>51814625
>The C'tan did not officially exist until the Necron codex that dropped in 3rd.
See my comment here: >>51814627
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>>51814620
>Live in the GTA,

I'm so sorry, anon. On the other hand I sincerely hope your entire region is cleansed by nuclear fire. Nothing personal.

>>51814624
>With the Tau it's about intentions

Yeah and Stalin wasn't a turbo-racist. Global Marxists (Leninists etc) wanted to unite the galaxy. Best of intentions, right?

The Tau are the communists of 40k and therefore should (or rather must) be purged with extreme prejudice. Besides, being nice to other races doesn't really mean shit. Why should a human care about any non-human? Or if the Imperium continued to be internally repressive but stopped randomly killing everyone else, would they suddenly be "nobledark"?
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>>51814643
I'm well aware. However, one line of text that simply mentions them doesn't establish them as gods, let alone assholes who were controlling the Necrons. It was literally just a name and nothing more. The C'tan as Anon is arguing them did not exist until Necrons stopped fucking around and got their fluff together.
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>>51814077
It's not her fault that pigeons have sharp claws
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>>51814639
You get tired of disasters. They take too much emotional investment if you plan to do anything more than put your dick in them.
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>>51814625
>The C'tan did not officially exist until the Necron codex that dropped in 3rd.

Yes, they did. In the Tyranid section in the 2nd main rulebook it's mentioned that the Imperial Fleets are stationed near the Gates of Varl to protect the galaxy from the quiescent threat of the C'tan.

There is also the C'tan Phase Blade which was there forst in 2nd ED.

Point it, the C'tan predate Ynnead and were in the words before him.

>[citation needed]

Fracture of Biel-Tan during the escape from the Dark City when the wyches were suffering from withdraw. Yvarine heard him laughing at the Dark Eldar and in his voice she felt cruelty. These are his people.

>Alright.

Previous generals. Where was the complainants that Ynnead wasn't needed in the setting? No where.

>Entirely false. The """""sister setting""""" is distinct enough from 40k that it can follow a different set of rules,

Not really. The share identical metaphysics and the Warp.

>Except I didn't say this. I said that 40k does not need ANY MORE asshole gods.

Except it does. The Chaos Gods are not enough.

> There are more asshole gods than just the Chaos Gods.

Who? None are active parts of the story. Gork And Mork are virtually nonexistent beyond a few mentions and Khaine is practically dead.

Only the C'tan were the active dudes and rivals of the Chaos Gods in evil. Now it's gone. All you got is the Chaos Gods as the bad guys, It's limiting and boring.
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>>51814627
Also in the Tyranid section of the Codex Imperialis where they are mentioned as one of threats in the galaxy.
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>>51814181
Prove it time stamp
>MFW you are just another neck bearded faggot
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What does 4chan thinks about Ork Codex: Rewritten? I've stumbled upon it not so long ago, was wondering if anyone tried it out. Is it good/broken/OP? Are there other good takes on original ork codex?

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/96793715/Codex%20Orks%20Rewrite%20Ver%203/Codex%20Orks%20Rewrite%20Ver%203.0.7.pdf
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>>51814628

She used to look more pure.

Ignorance is bliss sometimes.
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>>51814718
I knew someone was going to ask me.. Pretty sure it's against the rules.
If this is Night Lords theme anon you aren't getting shit.
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>>51814681
>Yes, they did
See >>51814663. They were not gods until they were fleshed out in 3rd.

>Yvarine heard him laughing at the Dark Eldar and in his voice she felt cruelty
You seem to imply a god of death wouldn't be a god of gallows humor.

>Previous generals. Where was the complainants that Ynnead wasn't needed in the setting? No where.
What are you trying to say here you asinine fuck? Firstly, there are more people than just me who post in this general, and we're all anonymous so even if I was complaining, how the fuck would you know? Secondly, are you some turbo-autist who trawls every single general? Thirdly, you clearly can't be, because you must have forgotten what happened here when Fracture of Biel-Tan was leaked. Ynnead was and is absolutely skubtastic and a large number of Eldar players and /tg/-goers are still assblasted that the Eldar progression happened in this way.

>The share identical metaphysics and the Warp
40k and Fantasy haven't been congruent for a long fucking time, and AoS removed the last shred of that possibility.

>Except it does. The Chaos Gods are not enough.
In your opinion. Why is that so hard to understand?

>Who?
Cegorach, the Emperor, and Malal, the latter I mention purely because you seem to be an old-trumps-new-no-matter-what neckbeard.

>Only the C'tan were the active dudes and rivals of the Chaos Gods in evil. Now it's gone. All you got is the Chaos Gods as the bad guys, It's limiting and boring.
Have you literally not heard of the Emperor? Also, Newcrons and Eldar do their part to keep Chaos at bay.
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>>51814737
>tfw not one but TWO faggots made mentioning NLs an automatic shit post
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>>51811699
Sorry anon, if you are as unattractive and as bad at talking to girls as you claim, you will just be a stepping stone, maybe a friend.
You will teach her the game, she will either become passionate or get bored quickly.
If she becomes passionate, chances are she will date a store owner/manager (unless they are total neckbeards too).
Just enjoy the game, and just act like she is a dude, at least you might get a fun game out of it.
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>>51814140

I'm in a good job with a wife and family, and i'm just an average bloke.

One of my local stores has fuck all neckbeards in it because it's a fairly nice establishment that also does booze, and the owner strongly encourages autists/basement dwellers to fuck off. The business does far better for it.

One other independent is full of neckbeards, but they're almost entirely limited to MTG and other trading card games. There's a few in the 40K/30K community, but most people are normal.

The actual Warhammer store near me though is *full* of neckbeardy spergs. The manager is a lovely guy that's super friendly and a 20 year company veteran, but he doesn't police the people who there at all. I don't know how it is possible that people can forget to wear deo, shave, cut their hair or even wash their clothes, but it happens apparently. I avoid it like the plague.
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>>51814737
>>51814756
In his defense, I am the Night Lords theme song shit poster.
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>>51814778

Thanks for ruining NL faggot
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>>51814778
I legitimately thought there was a second theme song faggot with Noise Marines but it was just that dogshit technope that you were shilling
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>>51814736

>nose ring
>pure

PICK ONE
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>>51811832
And read that closely: a LITTLE cologne. Don't go in smelling like a bar at closing time either.
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>>51814794
That wasn't actually me, I didn't see that dude copying me.
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>>51814751
>See >>51814663. They were not gods until they were fleshed out in 3rd.

Goalshifting, They existed in the setting before Ynnead. So did the Necrons.

>You seem to imply a god of death wouldn't be a god of gallows humor.

A good of death enjoying the suffering of his subjects is assholish. Also being cruel equates to being an asshole.

>Ynnead was and is absolutely skubtastic and a large number of Eldar players and /tg/-goers are still assblasted that the Eldar progression happened in this way.

Not for your reasons.

>40k and Fantasy haven't been congruent for a long fucking time, and AoS removed the last shred of that possibility.

No. 40K and fanrasy are still linked even in 4th ED (See Liber Chaotica).

In the WHFB End Times had a lot of 40K Easter eggs.

>Cegorach

Not an asshole god.

>the Emperor

Not even god.

>Malal

Doesn't exist in 40K

And Malice isn't a god. He is a rogue daemon.

>Have you literally not heard of the Emperor?

FoC revealed the Emperor to be a fraud.

>Newcrons

More concerned with the Tyranids than Chaos. There is no collective effort by the Necrons to stop Chaos. They are not aware of Chaos even.

>Eldar

The humans are. The Eldar are fumbling around until Ynnead was born.
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>>51814804

I said looks MORE pure. It legitimately took me awhile before I first noticed the ring and the shirt. The birds and her sullen demeanor distracted me for quite awhile.
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>>51814816
Not the dude you are sperging at, but can you explain how the Emperor was proven as a fraud? I haven't seen that bit
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>>51814816

>In the WHFB End Times had a lot of 40K Easter eggs.
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>>51811832
Jesus CHRIST don't wear cologne.
Just take a shower, wear deodorant and use anti-dandruff shampoo like you should be using normally. If you smell like you're going on a fucking date it's going to get REAL awkward.
>>51814811
Then what's the theme you'd suggest
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>>51814788
>HURR DURR you're passionate about music and night lords and I like metal so you wrecked the night lords
Is it embarrassing for you to read that?
Because that is how you sound.
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>>51814846

>projecting this hard

I'm talking about your incessant shit posting that made people think you were legitimately autistic.
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>>51814843
For Emp Children? There is no theme song we could use for them. Nothing we could make with sound would even be close to the mark.
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>>51814827
The Necron Pylons are the only things that are keeping the Warp and Real Space separate. Without them, reality would sink into the Warp and be destroyed.

The Emperor has nothing to do with protecting Real Space.
>>51814838
There was a lot of 40K Easter Eggs*
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>>51814860
>Getting embarrassed
>Quickly write that other guy is projecting
What do you even suggest that I am projecting sorry?
This is getting very awkward.
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>>51814861
Talking about NL
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>>51814875
Sorry, so how does this make him a fraud? Or did you make up head canon that didn't work out the way you wanted it to?
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>>51814890
Oh, you missed my posting?
I think we have crossed wires.
Here anyway:
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=IUGzY-ihqWc&feature=share
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>>51814875
>The Emperor has nothing to do with protecting Real Space.
The daemon codex says otherwise, claiming that if the Emperor dies the Gods will overwhelm real space.
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>>51814843
>>51814861
>Then what's the theme you'd suggest

>Implying
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EP_E36j-TMQ
things will shall get loud now
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>51814876

I'm not even giving up a (you) for this one.
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>>51812109
>yells at dad for picking up models he probably paid for
>dad has early-onset Parkinson's
>this memory will be anon's best memory of when he noticed symptoms
>will regret yelling at him for rest of his life

GJ anon.
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>>51814915
That is probably as close as we could get.
Well done.
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>>51814860
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>>51814816
>Goalshifting
Well aren't you quick to call people out on that.
I mention C'tan not being what you are describing because they literally were no mroe than a name. Necrons as a model range existed, sure, but likewise were not even CALLED Necrons until 3rd edition.
Meanwhile, the concept of Ynnead has existed since before 2nd edition, if you would like to get technical.

>A good of death enjoying the suffering of his subjects is assholish. Also being cruel equates to being an asshole.
You are aware of what game you are discussing, yes?

>Not for your reasons.
What the fuck are my reasons? I don't remember giving you any. I have not declared for or against Ynnead to you, except to say he isn't a complete asshole.

>even in 4th ED
>even
4th was literally more than a decade ago, and you're still ignoring AoS.

>Not an asshole god.
Literally the god of dickishness and having a hearty kek at someone's expense.

>Not even god
Emperor pls go.

>Doesn't exist in 40K
Anymore.

>FoC revealed the Emperor to be a fraud.
Do fucking elaborate, because as far as I remember reading, FoC all but CONFIRMED Living Saints as not!daemons, meaning the Emperor is unquestionably the real deal.
>he's not single-handedly containing the EoT therefore he's not god
No other god can do this, why does he have to be able to do that in order to qualify as a god?

>They are not aware of Chaos even.
Did you read Fall of Cadia or are you just pulling what you know from /tg/ memes?

>The Eldar are fumbling around until Ynnead was born
Did you read Fracture of Biel-Tan, either? Nobody was pushing for Ynnead until Kysaduras told Eldrad, and the majority of craftworlds told Eldrad to fuck off. They were fighting Chaos and doing their thing right up until Yvraine fucked everything up.

This is my last (You) for because I have to get to work. Go read some books, and for fuck's sake if you're going to drop into a thread and samefag replies as you read, do so only after reading the whole thing.
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>>51814923
I wouldn't either, if I got my Jimmy's as rustled as you did.
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>>51814915
>things will shall get loud now
>will shall

Fugg :DDD I will shall sleep now

>>51814930

I've considered a lot of options over the last few weeks, want to start an EC army. At first I thought something like Sunn O))) but that's not aggressive enough.
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>>51811652
Watching Guard batreps as a Guard player is suffering. Everyone brings either fun or weak lists and get their shit stomped. Even when they tryhard it's not very common that they do very well.

Anyone got any batreps/stories of Guard victories in 7th?
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>>51814816
>>51814751
>>51814681
>>51814625
>>51814575
the person laughing in yvraine's head is the hellion she absorbed the soul of, not ynnead. it's that young punk she stabbed with the cronesword.

> Even the most beautiful Wych would be reduced to a torrid hag over the course of a few empty nights. A voice in Yvraine’s head laughed at their distress. It was that of a young male, quiet but cruel.
The gladiatrix wondered if she had somehow absorbed the soul of the Ghyrebat Hellion she had slain. If so, she had kept the warrior’s essence safe from the all-consuming desire of Slaanesh.
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>>51814932

Nah. He's actually autistic, so it's better to just let him go.
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>>51814940
>Meanwhile, the concept of Ynnead has existed since before 2nd edition, if you would like to get technical.

Ynnead didn't even exist in 2nd while C'tan and Necrons were gestating in 2nd and 3th ED according to Andy Chambers and Rick-P. You saying that Ynnead came before the C'tan is objectively false.

>You are aware of what game you are discussing, yes?

A game of assholes. Where multiple assholes deities fit in.

>What the fuck are my reasons? I don't remember giving you any. I have not declared for or against Ynnead to you, except to say he isn't a complete asshole.

That the setting doesn't need anymore asshole gods.

>Literally the god of dickishness and having a hearty kek at someone's expense.

Towards his enemies and those with egos. He is kind to his followers and toward his soon to be born brother.

>Emperor pls go.

He wasn't even on par with the Shard of the Void Dragon. A single Undivided Daemon was more than his match.

>Anymore.

More like never. Malal was fantasy only.

>Do fucking elaborate, because as far as I remember reading, FoC all but CONFIRMED Living Saints as not!daemons, meaning the Emperor is unquestionably the real deal.

The Emperor can create psychic constructs the same as any psyker. The Eldar did it, the Thoysand Sons did it, etc.

>Did you read Fall of Cadia or are you just pulling what you know from /tg/ memes?

Trazyn was clueless at the start. The Court of Thanatos knew due to them having the Celestial Orrey but choose not to act because it's not their jobs to save the galaxy but to watch over it.

The rest of the Necrons either don't know or don't give a damn.

>Did you read Fracture of Biel-Tan, either? Nobody was pushing for Ynnead until Kysaduras told Eldrad, and the majority of craftworlds told Eldrad to fuck off. They were fighting Chaos and doing their thing right up until Yvraine fucked everything up.

Lke I said, fumbling around and flailing ineffectively until Ynnead slapped them into shape.
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>>51814932
K

Reminder that the Night Lords have a song that captures their theme perfectly

https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=IUGzY-ihqWc&feature=share [Open]

FAQ:
>Dubstep is gay lol?
Dubstep suits many chaotic factions as it is fairly chaotic
Also this song is hardly Dubstep

>I listened to three seconds and I thought it was shit?
No, you are shit. Try lasting longer than you do in bed next time, before giving a review

>If this music isn't to my personal taste, does that mean it is the wrong song for the Night Lords?
No

>ITS NOT METAL I CAN SHAKE MY NECKBEARD TO????
Metal music doesn't suit chaos, this isn't the 80s. The Night Lords have evolved a lot in the last 8-10 years, so get on board or fuck off. Metal only really suits World Eaters, even then, probably Hardcore.

>My Emps Children love the shit metal though!!!
No, your structured music would bore them to death. Please read current fluff, not your 80s shit

>LOL LOOK MY SHIT SONG ABOUT BATS OR LIGHTNING IS FUNNY
*Pat pat* nice original joke, friend

>Does the above point apply for any of my other "funny" song ideas?
Yes.

>I know more about music than you because that is brostep, not dubstep
Doesn't change the fact that it is the correct song for the Night Lords

>Why did you word that first sentence weirdly?
Because people thought they were clever with their spam filter
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>>51814947
Yeah, good choice. I can imagine that song playing while a camera pans over a Emperor's Children army.
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>>51814988
As Yvraine ran, a Hellion in the gang colours of the Ghyrebats swooped in, desperate to make a name for himself by capturing or killing the focal point of the carnage. Stepping under the youth’s outstretched glaive, Yvraine flicked out her huskblade and impaled him with its tip. The young warrior fell from his skyboard, which came to a smooth halt as its rider fell apart – not into arid dust, as was usual for the huskblade’s touch, but in a cascade of tiny, glowing embers.
Somehow, Yvraine heard the howl of the Hellion’s soul as it departed its body. Although it dwindled, the scream did not recede altogether. The soul had not been drained, nor stolen away by the sucking pull of She Who Thirsts as with all other Dark Eldar. In an unlikely moment of contrition, Yvraine felt empathy with that dying soul. A heartbeat later, a new voice was in her head, mewling with fear.
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>>51814893
The stuff about him warding Chaos away from real space is rendered false. What good is he?
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>>51815021
>>51814988
Ohhh...my mistake then.
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>>51814705
>mentioned as one of threats in the galaxy.
Weird, the Assassins entry mentioned that they were thought to be extinct.
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>>51815022
Doesn't make him a fraud. And have you forgotten the astronomicon?
Plus he is literally spawning warp demons (Celestine)
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>>51815006
Is this cheetahanon secretly shitposting?
>>51814997
I think you're right. It's kind of sad. I don't think he even plays TTG, just doesn't know anything about music so he can't go to /mu/
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>>51815006
>deliberately avoiding filters
>still being this autistic
You are fantastic. Keep trying and soon you'll be on the same level as the >Aeldari cheetahfag. I believe in you, anon.
>>
I just got here what the fuck are the autists REEEEEing about? Fuck reading all that passive aggressive BS.
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>>51815033
>And have you forgotten the astronomicon?

He directs it, he doesn't generate it. The Choir is what creates it.

>Celestine

He is just sharing a portion of his power with someone. She isn't even a daemon. Once cut off from the Emperor, she wasn't banished she returned to being a human.
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>>51815054
>he's actually asking to be spoonfed the contents of the thread
NORMIES GET OUT REEE
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>>51815068
Stop.
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>>51815054
Ummm if everyone wrote a post about what was happening when they got to /TG/, it would just be your post spammed by 100 dudes.
it's okay newfag, just read to get yourself up to date.
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>>51814680
Eh. I have chronic depersonalisation, so I'm pretty much incapable of anything but sticking my dick in them anyway.
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>>51815054
Why is Yvarine barefooted?

Why is Yncarne so cute?
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>>51815072
>Caring about what people write on Reddit
it's okay newfag, you can keep posting how you want to despite what faggots think of you
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>>51815026
If they were extinct, then why were the Imperial fleets stationed at the Gates of Varl protecting the galaxy from the threat of the C'tan? huuh?

>>51814909
He casts a psychic blanket on mankind to protect them from exploding into daemons. Which shouldn't be hard considering that the Golden Throne supposedly grants omniscience over the galaxy.
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>>51815054
40k generals are a cancer. I wish I could be bothered to pick up the official 40k list thread again, it was a safe haven from the autism.

Better times..
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>>51815006
nice but not nearly chaotic enough
try something along the lines of this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTCW_q3ZWIc
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>>51815098
>40k generals are a cancer
why are you even here then
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>>51815072
>I posted it again!

>>51815092
>using newfag as a buzzword
The mark of a newfag.
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>>51815102
Thanks for the input.
Unfortunately we were looking for the Night Lords theme song, not something chaotic that makes no sense for the night lords.
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>>51815098
and the other OP I made in case anyone ever wants to start them up again.
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>>51815124
fair enough
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>>51815118
>>N-no you're the newfag
Nice try
newfag
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New
>>51815133
>>51815133
>>51815133
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>>51815098

>That ancient list
>Back when Wave Serpents were cheese and you chose powers

Oh 6E how I miss you so
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>>51815207
You rolled powers in 6th.
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>>51815230

what the fuck, I could have sworn that was 6e.
>>
Can someone give me pointers on my list? I'm going for something that can be used in friendly games and maybe competitive. I'm using imperial armor 13 stuff too.

Chaos Space Marines (Alpha Legion)
(1848/1850)
HQ [1]

Sorcerer (180pts) Force Stave, Mastery Level 3, The Mindveil, Sigil of Corruption, Spell Familiar

Elites [1]

Chaos Contemptor (290pts) Chainfist, Plasma Blaster (2), Havoc Launcher, Dedication of Nurgle, Extra Armor

Troops [4]

10x Chaos Space Marines (160pts)
>1x Aspiring Champion
>8x Chaos Space Marines
>1x Chaos Space Marine; Lascannon

10x Chaos Space Marines (160pts)
>1x Aspiring Champion
>8x Chaos Space Marines
>1x Chaos Space Marine; Lascannon

6x Chosen (283pts) Dreadclaw Drop Pod-(Dedicated Transport)
>1x Chosen Champion; Combi-Melta, Power Maul
>5x Chosen; Melta Gun

5x Chosen (265pts) Dreadclaw Drop Pod-(Dedicated Transport)
>1x Chosen Champion; Power Maul
>4x Chosen; Plasma Gun

Heavy Support [3]

2x Chaos Rapier Weapons Battery (140pts)
>1x Rapier; Hades Autocannon
>1x Rapier; Cyclotrathe Pattern Conversion Beamer

2x Chaos Rapier Weapons Battery (140pts)
>1x Rapier; Hades Autocannon
>1x Rapier; Cyclotrathe Pattern Conversion Beamer

1x Chaos Relic Sicaran (230pts) Heavy Bolter Sponsons, Malefic Ammo, Warpflame Gargoyles, LoR: Perdus Rift Anomaly, Extra Armor
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>>51815296

New thread, anon, look 3 posts above yours
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woops, thanks
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>>51815230
Wong
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>>51815248
It is. That list doesn't have psychic powers on it, but it does list Runes of Warding and Witnessing, because in 6th they were optional upgrades.

>>51815349
Here's a screenshot of the 6th edition rulebook since I know you won't accept a quote from my physical copy. The only difference between generating powers in 6th and 7th was that Psychic Focus didn't exist.
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>>51813855

>Kick Eldar when they're down by attacking craftworlds during The Fall
>Despite Eldar allowing humans to live during their rule
>Eldar still try to warn humans about heresy
>Humans open fire anyway
>"HURRR WHY DO YOU KEEP SECRETS!"
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>>51815470
Fuck the Eldar. Nothing would make me harder than to see all of their craftworlds burn.
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I presume the Dreadnought Inferno cannon that Forge World sells has its rules in an Imperial Armour release?

Does it have good rules? I am going to buy the Black Templars Venerable dreadnought they sell one day, and was leaning towards inferno cannon + dreadnought CCW.
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>>51811841
Cringe.
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>>51813151
Attaboy m80
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>>51813279
SM players are all cancer.
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