Warhammer 40,000 General /40kg/

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Whatre you guys working on?

>>51735062
My life

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>>51735062
THE DARK ELDAR ALWAYS STRIKE FIRST!

Beat me to it. But I'm working on my 3rd Venom. Just finished up these fucking freehands and I'm quite proud of myself.

That Tantalus looks like a LOT of fun to paint.

>>51735051
I'm almost tempted to drop the Command Squad for a cheaper HQ option, but I'm not sure.

>>51735062

Not sure. I have a platoon of sisters left to paint that are long overdue, but I have my Night Lords to to, too.

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>>51735062
My heavy stubber guardsman
I tried making a muddy base for him but it dried and basically crackled off
I guess I should paimt him, glue him down and just use this pre-made mud and grass I got

>>51735120
fucking master tier planks

>>51735120
leave him in the air, this guardsman is clearly /fit/ or a psyker. either way it's hilarious

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Still haven't playtested it sadly, r8

1850 Renegades & Heretics: Vraks Renegade Unending Host

HQ
Renegade Command Squad
Arch Demagogue, master of the horde, covenant of nurgle, 4x Disciples

Troops
Renegade Infantry Platoon
15x PCS, Demagogue, x3 plasma guns, chaos sigil, vox, militia training, krak grenades
15x Infantry Squad, x3 plasma guns, chaos sigil, vox, militia training
15x Infantry Squad, x3 plasma guns, chaos sigil, vox, militia training

Renegade Infantry Platoon
15x PCS, Demagogue, x3 plasma guns, chaos sigil, vox, militia training, krak grenades
15x Infantry Squad, x3 plasma guns, chaos sigil, vox, militia training
15x Infantry Squad, x3 plasma guns, chaos sigil, vox, militia training

Renegade Infantry Platoon
15x PCS, Demagogue, x3 melta guns, chaos sigil, vox, militia training, meltabombs
15x Infantry Squad, x3 melta guns, chaos sigil, vox, militia training
15x Infantry Squad, x3 melta guns, chaos sigil, vox, militia training

20x Plague Zombies

Heavy Support
Renegade Strike Battery: 2x Renegade Wyverns

Lords of War
Renegade Baneblade

The baneblade gives the renegades fearless while getting a modifiable 3+ cover save while getting shot through an infantry squad. Whenever an infantry squad dies, on a roll of 2+ it returns to the game outflanking with an extra D6 for movement purposes. Getting plasma and melta across the board this way sounds really, really hilarious.

>>51735120
i'd give him +1S and FNP for being so strong for free if we were playing a casual game.

>>51735146
No

>>51735178
>tfw you will never be as /fit/ as him

>>51735081

Seriously digging the (freehand?) "decals" on the Venom, anon.

>>51735062

Fuck, this just reminded me that I need to buy a Tantalus before it's too late. And also some Space Marine shit because FW is liable to stop making it and never ever sell it again.

>tfw the Corsair upgrade kit has been "temporarily out of stock" for months now

I think I'll email them actually...

>>51735120
>40,2017 planking champion

>>51735206
Thanks. Yeah, they're freehand. I even improv'd them as I went. The only one I was certain on was the curl.

>>51735062
Guardsmen.

Although I stopped because I realized that i was being a retard for using the same brush to prime and basecoat, so I need to go buy a new brush for basecoating since the primer has fugged up the brush.

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>>51735062
I just finished the first Marine of my new Inquisition/Marine army.

>>51735062
Finished up some Chaos havocs, though I realize now that I don't have enough 32 mm bases

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rate my list please
should I make the plasma executioner squad melta? or is one squad of plasma needed.
Also I'm posting another list, tell me which one is better.
>>51735202

>tfw want to paint my Burning of Prospero as either Imperial Fists or Thousand Sons
>tfw can't decide
On the other hand I already have some loyalist Space Marines for 40k
On the other hand Imperial Fists are hard as fug to paint, and I'm not exactly sure how to do weathered up marines

>>51735341
What over-arching story pulls at you more? You can always have small allied force of the other later.

>>51735267
>>51735202
fuck, forgot to write what I was going to say.
>tfw he's probably more fit than space marine if he can fire an autocannon at bs3 while planking like that.

Also rate my other list. Which one is better and why?

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>>51735367
forgot list

>>51735365
I like the idea of siege tactics and overwhelming bolter fire, but I don't know about anything the IF did during the heresy
I like the tragic story of the Thousand Sons during the heresy but obviously after the Rubric they aren't exactly the same, and while I love the rubric models I'm not about to start a fourth 40k army (I currently have IG, some marines and Sisters on the way)

>>51735393
they just built all of fortresses on terra and sat there, they defended terra with all of their forces during the attack.

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Rate my prospective Biel-Tan Swordwind list please. I'm aware it's kind of Saim-Hann-ish but I'm trying to meet a specific budget and this list manages to do exactly that. It's 1000 points.

HQ
>Autarch, 130 - Banshee Mask, Skyrunner, Shard of Anaris
Troops
>Dire Avengers, 225 - 4x DA, 1x Exarch with Diresword
DT: Wave Serpent - Holofields, TL Starcannons
>Dire Avengers, 210 - 4x DA, 1x Exarch with TL Avenger Shuriken Catapult
DT: Wave Serpent - Holofields, TL Brightlances
>Windriders, 81 - 3x Shuriken Cannon
>Windriders, 81 - 3x Scatter Laser
Fast Attack
>Shining Spears, 95 - 2x Shining Spear, 1x Exarch with Star Lance
>Vyper, 55 - Shuriken Cannon, Starcannon
>Warp Spiders, 120 - 4x Warp Spider, 1x Exarch with Spinneret Rifle

I'm a bit worried that 6 Windriders + the Warp Spiders + 2 Wave Serpents might be a bit much at 1000 points. On the other hand the Autarch, Shining Spears and Vyper are all regarded as sub-optimal choices. Is this an alright TAC list? Would you play against it?

Pic absolutely not related, I just picked at random from my /tg/ folder

>>51735409
Oops, I meant I don't know anything about what the IF did during the Great Crusade leading up to the Heresy.

>>51735443
I kind of paint black by taking something like german grey (basically a really dark gray) and wash it with nuln oil.

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>>51735062

Decided to redo an old conversion I did up years back.

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>>51735062
Word Bearers. This guy is my second model ever, I'll post my finished 3rd guy tomorrow.

>>51735488
I've been wanting to try and make a historical model into an imperial tank.

>>51735341
They're not so hard if you get yourself some yellow spray paint as a base layer

>>51735393
You could always go Iron Warriors for their slick look and sweet heavy weaponry (including heavy bolters).

>>51735523
I actually recently got an air brush and I guess that would make the yellow base easier to achieve, but if I slip it's still gonna be a pain to fix.
>>51735532
I really don't care for Iron Warriors. I just don't relate.

>>51735494
>This guy is my second model ever

Looks pretty damn good for a second model, anon. A bit of practice and they'll be great.

Why does nothing good ever happen?

Like, a planet with monster girls that don't try to kill you.

>>51735589
Because it wouldn't be grimdark.

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>>51735581
Thanks anon. I learned from watching what /wip/ hated and Duncan of the two thinned coats.

This guy is my first model.

What would be better:
2 drop vet squad with no additions and an extermination squad with 4 heavy flamers
or
3 drop vet squads with a heavy flamer each
Also battlescribe says
>objective secured (Combined arms detachment)
does this mean that all units in the CAD get obsec?

>>51735522

The Lee is a great choice because it's aesthetic is very close to 40k's. Go for a 1/35 model; that's just the right size for 40K, as my conversion shows. You'll have to replace all weapons though; 40K weapons are closer to 1/16 in scale, and 1/35 scale weapons look comically small.

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>>51735062
Painting another Crisis Battlesuit

>>51735649
+2 for farsight enclaves
-1 for no magnetisation
>you can do it anon, get those magnets
+1 overall

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>>51735494

Looks good. Circled a few things to keep an eye on. It could use some highlights on the red, to go with the shading. The lens looks good, but could be a tad neater.

Keep it up.

>>51735611
>Also battlescribe says
>>objective secured (Combined arms detachment)
>does this mean that all units in the CAD get obsec?

Read the fucking rules before you make an army list, holy shit.

>>51735629
Oh, I know. I'm not (exactly) new to either 40k or historical modelling. unfortunately I don't know what I could use a Stug or a Panther as counts-as since Panthers and Tigers are about the height of a baneblade.

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>>51735661
>No magnetization
U wot

If you thought it was painted why didn't you chew me out for having a Plasma Gun and Burst Cannon on the same unit?

Any tips or specific paint colours for black skin tones?

Asking since I'm thinking of painting Bubba and Forrest from some Catachans.

>>51735668

I'm pretty sure those grey things you circled on his right knee and chest are supposed to be weathering. I agree with you on the highlighting but it's not that bad, it's a decently thinned paint job and mostly within the lines which is way more than I can say for most first timers.

>>51735700
*Glued

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>>51735649
>painted Tau
B--but anon...i've been told the paint comes right off them

What's the easiest miniature to paint for a beginning collector of Warhammer 40k and Warhammer 40k accessories?

>>51735668
Thanks. The eyes are a bit of a pain, I'm trying to use the Small Layer brush, but it just feels a bit too small to control reliably.

The studs are just a huge pain when it comes to painting in-between them.

I didn't notice the bit on the knee until too late, same with the chest.

I did highlight, but apparently not enough? They don't seem to show up in the pics I take, at least.

>>51735710
Nah, they're mistakes. I'm not going to try weathering until I can git gud. I can't decide between black helmets or red helmets. They both look nice, but my highlights just seem to disappear on both.

>tfw just need to paint 22 more dudes, 2 Rhinos, 10 Raptors, 3 Maulerfiends and a DP for my army

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How heretical is this?

>>51735748
Marines.

>>51735700
+10 for bamboozling me
I didn't know it was magnetised
also the plasma burst cannon combo I ignored since there was once an anon who ran the same combo and got triggered when it was pointed out, so I decided not push my luck.

>>51735763
Just about as heretical as MLP marine anon

>>51735748
Necron

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>>51735748
It really depends on what army you want to do. You really should go with what you like, honestly. What are you interested in? And why isn't it Ultramarines?

>>51735748

Definitely Necrons. You could just base goat them black, slap on some silver and nuln oil and nobody would even notice.

>>51735763
And some attention whore faggot from RIOT GAMES bought this shit for thousand of dollar, nevertheless he got some media cover after this.

>>51735783
I like whichever one uses propane and propane accessories the most.

So I suppose Salamanders...

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>>51735748
A tau shield drone, it's literally a hovering disk with 2 antennas on it. I think you would use between 2-4 colours on it.
tau in general are blocky and easy, using between 2-4 colours on most stuff.
pic related: shield drone

>>51735176
you forgot to take the aquilas off

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>>51735710

Oh definitely better than most first/second paint jobs I've seen. I was just circling what stood out to me.

>>51735754
>The eyes are a bit of a pain, I'm trying to use the Small Layer brush, but it just feels a bit too small to control reliably.
Oh yea. Eyes suck, but you'll get it with practice. Duncan has a lenses video. Iirc, he essentially just drops watered down color and then adds a dot of white, but I could be misremembering.

>The studs are just a huge pain when it comes to painting in-between them.
Yup. Just takes patience is all. Hell, I recent cleaned up a few spots that I found.

>I did highlight, but apparently not enough? They don't seem to show up in the pics I take, at least.

Maybe make it brighter then? Red is weird. Here's a sister I did with red as an experiment. The camera made everything more red for some reason.

>>tfw just need to paint 22 more dudes, 2 Rhinos, 10 Raptors, 3 Maulerfiends and a DP for my army

I hear you. I have quite the back log, but you're still doing more than the grey tide.

>>51735763
It looks like when you go into Dawn of War's Army Painter and hit "Randomize" for Space Marines.

>>51735824
Unf sisters of battle unf
At least my SoB will be quick to paint, only 2 characters, 10 infantry and 3 tanks.

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>>51735800
You mean Flamer? Lots of armies have flamer unit anon.

>>51735803
Does it run on propane?

>>51735754
>Nah, they're mistakes.

kek, whoops.
> They both look nice, but my highlights just seem to disappear on both.

Red's fucking impossible but if you try a wider highlight of an intermediate colour (or even mix of 80% red 20% white) and then a smaller edge highlight of 50/50 red/white that might work.
Black is harder to explain but if you watch Duncan paint something black you will probably get it. IDK if he has an Ulthwe video or something but if so look that up, it'll probably work. There are many methods for black (easiest is just black -> a different black -> black-grey > grey imo, usually I do black -> blue mix)

>>51735800
Salamanders or Blood Angels it is!

>>51735824
Other way around, Duncan does dot of White Scar then washes it with one of the glaze paints or a thinned down paint with Lahmian Medium if a glaze of that color isn't available.

I'm following Duncan's WB guide to the letter, though I used Guilliman Blue for the eyes rather than Waywatcher Green.

>>51735876
I used Eshin Grey for the highlights like how Duncan says for Bolters and things, so I thought it'd apply to the helmets as well.

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>>51735861

I have quite a few left. About 20ish to go plus the immolator. If my order from my LGS ever comes in, I'll have another 2 immolators, Veridyan, and another HFlamer to paint, too.

pls no bully. Most of these are some of my first attempts like my shitty exo conversion

>>51735770
He deserved to be triggered
>Crisis suits can fire an additional weapon for free
>Mix weapon slots so the range of the plasma rifle and the shitty AP of the burst cannon are at odds with each other

I mean at the VERY least just slap two burst cannons on one and two plasma rifles on another and give one target lock

>>51735933
yeah but he was supreme autismo and he fucking ruined the thread with his chromosomes.
otherwise I agree
also
What do you use to proxy cyclic ion blasters/airbursting fragmentation projectors
I use flamers, since they're never used.

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>>51735907

I like using silver for bolter highlights, personally because it makes it look worn.

>>51735878
Ah ok. I only saw it once, and I only need it for my Night Lords. Since their lenses are super dark red, it didn't help much.

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>>51735929
I wish I could decide on the colour scheme for mine before they arrive next Monday.
Speaking of Exorcists is this for fucking real

>>51735803
This actually makes me question the three-color ITC rule.
The Shield Drone looks good and completed with only two colors. Do they expect you to clown vomit it just so you can enter?

>>51735955
Nothing since I literally just started getting into the tabletop 40k 10 days ago. I'd probably also use flamers to proxy.

I feel like anti-infantry would just be a team of suits with burst cannons and possibly a bunch of gun drones with one suit having a drone controller to get 24 BS3 S5 AP5 shots, half of which are twin-linked without upgrades

>>51735988
That has highlights and what not, which counts.

>>51735443
looks casual enough

>>51735988
the red sensor "eye"
3 colours now

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>>51735980

That paint is hard to look at, and those cyclones are an interesting idea poorly executed. Wow.

Anyway, sisters have some pretty great colors, but I'm just so fond of my Silver and Red. I've tried out other colors, but even people I ask IRL prefer the silver.

>>51735242
>gold base rim
Why would you do that?

>>51735991
don't bother using drone controllers on gun drones. with twin-linked they average at bs3.5.
Also, cyclic ion blasters are generally better anti-infantry than burst cannons. You have S5 ap5 everywhere, taking more is pointless.
This also means that gun drones are pretty useless outside of gun drones squadrons and to fill the formations drone net v-x-2-0.

>>51736079
Good point. I was forgetting about the drone net and how I need to run 16 drones before any upgrade drones. I had both things in my mind but never made the connection

>>51736079
Also would you overcharge the blaster to use templates to take care of infantry or would you fire off the regular three shots?

I suppose it matters if there's cover or not?

what's better
a deep striking squad of 9 meltas or a deep striking squad of 7 plasmas
both can be twin linked.
for reference I already have a squad of 9 meltas and a squad of 9 plasmas, so which one is going to see more use.

>>51736101
well blasts don't ignore cover unless stated so, the only time I would overcharge is if I could hit 4-6 models with each blast template or needed to hit AV14 desperately, otherwise the 3 S7 shots are better against most other things, you shouldn't be using it against 3+ or 2+ saves anyway.

>>51736101
Ask yourself three questions
>Will each blast template hit at least three units after a BS3 scatter
>What if I waste these markerlights
>Do I really need the +1 strength

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>playing anything but Imperium or Chaos
Why even bother with 40k? This game isn't about you.

>>51736109
Things that die to Plasma generally need to walk into range anyways
Things that die to Melta generally outrange you and have vulnerable rears

In pondering how I might magnetize greyfax to be usable as an ordo xenos inquisitor, I think my best shot might be using a skitarii augmetic right arm and magnetize the shoulder.

I don't really know skitarii;are there any nice bionic right arms carrying a plasma pistol or combi weapon of some sort?

>>51736133
I remember when Imperium vs orks was the setting and chaos was in the back seat

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>>51736133
don't mind me just passing through as the best book and always overpowered.

>>51736132
>>Will each blast template hit at least three units after a BS3 scatter
Do people actually take blast weapons and expect them NOT to scatter into nothing?

>>51736146
>never was and never been

>>51736138
Skiitari ranger kit had that bit.

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>>51736133
You're not even trying, are you?

>>51736136
so which is better generally?
I have infiltrating tracking beacon vets.

>>51736132
BS3 scatter is max 9 inches, right?

>>51736182
yes

>>51736153
If you're firing it into a tightly-formed unit of three models?
Then yeah, blasting there is dumb and it's going to whiff completely or net you fewer hits.

But if you're firing into a 9+ model unit? Or a unit that's scattered at near-minimum cohesion, maybe to prevent a deep strike? Blobs like conscripts or gaunts? Then statistically you're going to land more hits by blasting.

Not to mention going from S7 to S8 means you're instant death'ing all those T4 MEQs, and Tau can use Markerlights to reduce scatter significantly.

On a side note, that's actually why you shouldn't take Fusions or Plasma on a Commander. That BS5 is way more useful for blasts or volume weapons.

>>51736182
Scatter is 2d6 minus your BS.

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>>51735062
Waiting for the tourney organiser to finish the comp rules and set the points bracket.

>>51735689
>Stug
A Destroyer, either IG or Marine flavoured.

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As someone who plays ONLY Dark Eldar, would using a Ynnari detachment work well? Power from pain rewards attrition which DE suck at, whereas Soulburst rewards dying which DE are awesome at.

The trade-off is that you loose all the Coven units and the nice bonuses from the Realspace Raiders detachment, which I'm not sure are worth it. What do the rest of you think?

>>51736168
See Gathering Storm

It's just Chaos vs Imperium.

>>51735763
Entry level.

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>>51736214

>>51735763
All the hereticals.
Would purge.

>>51736209
I actually have two half-ruined old edition Leman Russes I was thinking of converting into destroyers.
Well, not exactly ruined but somewhat. I don't know how but the track links don't match up and It looks really horrible, don't know if I can do anything about it, and the turrets are busted.
That, and whoever built them tried to do a really clumsy conversion with the front-mounted heavy bolters.

>>51736236
Sorry but its true.

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>>51736213
>Trading our freedom and your life to work with puritan craftworlders

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How's this for a 2000 point combined elysian/d-99 list?
Would you play against it?
Should I have 2 plasma executioner squads or 2 melta squads?

>>51736214
Eldar are Imperium now?

>>51736266
Order vs Chaos!

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>>51736253
>working with craftworlders
Wouldn't dream of it. I'm just wondering if - from a rules standpoint - if the new Ynnari detachment is worth using over Realspace Raiders.

>>51736266
Short filler that ended with returning the story ball to the Imperium.

The Eldar are now allies of the Imperium and will be in the background from now on. Just like another event we know of.

>>51736253
The Dark Eldar are joining the Ynnari because they grant them freedom from Slaanesh which means they get to do whatever they want without worrying about death and being nommed. Immorality is theirs.

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Hi Gents,

Is this a decent list? I'm not waac fag.com but I do want to avoid complete butt rape.

>>51736290
probably not, as units inside of transports do not benefit from soulburst

>>51736325
Give the infiltrators tasers and blasters.

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>>51736290
Why not collect souls and save the galaxy? You already spent a lifetime being cliche and rude. I heard the Visarch is even teaching sword techniques

>>51736292
>It's just Imperium vs Chaos
>Someone points out there's an entire book revolving around Eldar
>I-i-it's short filler

Assuming The Gathering Storm is only three books that "short filler" is literally a third of the story.

>>51736359
Fracture was the shorter than Fall of Cadia. Want to bet that Return will be longer than Fracture also? You know, because it's filler.

And they are all about Chaos.

>>51736359
I mean, if this campaign bullshit is going to go on for the whole year like they threatened to do, I'd presume we're gonna get like, 9-ish books.
>the gathering storm
>the gathered storm
>the passing storm

If I dont see some ork-centric leaks soon im going to lose my shit

Theyve been at the bottom of the ladder since I started this hobby

>>51736409
The sisters of battle say hello. They're not even on the ladder.
And no, a single fucking special character doesn't count
Fuck Special Characters
I want decent generic characters

>>51736425
Sisters are better than orks

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>>51736430
Everything is better than orks.

>>51736425
Not a single character, it's 3 characters (as a unit ) and 1 character (Cannoness Veridyan).

SoB need a proper troop release. Hopefully GW is working on it and release them like they did with GSC and Tzeentch army. ETA time should be late 2017-early 2018.

>>51736425
>Sisters
>relevant

>>51735176
Where did you get those corpses in the front? I would love to make myself a traitor guards.

>>51736338
I'm pretty sure you're right, but I'm having a hard time trying to find a rule on that.

Soulburst states that it only works with non-vehicle, and being embarked doesn't count as being a vehicle. In addition, the rulebook says that you use measure to the vehicle's hull if you "need to measure a range involving the embarked unit".

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Played a game last night, i decided to make a ork shooty list.
My friends choose to play tyr, we play and at the end of the second turn he get tabled by my orks.
the game was so quick we decide to make a second game at 1k points.
Ends of the second turn he get tabled again.

WTF, i hope cruddace dosen't even touch the next ork codex

>>51736523
Q: I have a question regarding unit special rules that affect all
or some units within a certain range of a model or unit. How do
these interact with units inside Transports, and what happens
if the unit with the rule is inside a Transport?
A: When a unit embarks on a vehicle it is taken off the
battlefield and does not interact with anything on the
battlefield. However, certain rules may create exceptions
to this rule, with the most obvious examples being Fire
Points, psychic powers and Transports. If a unit’s rules
are meant to apply even when embarked on a Transport,
they will specify this

>>51735988
At a glance, that drone has 6 colors on it and probably more. The tan has a pale highlight on the edges. The dark center also has highlighting - and probably a metallic dry brush. Lastly the lens is using a minimum of two colors, one dark and the other light.

So I've just picked up the Deathwatch starter set. Haven't played since early 5th edition and am planning on adding a Deathwatch component to my Black Templars, probably before working towards a full Deathwatch army.

I'm planning for one group of veterans to be dead hitty, probably mounted in a corvus. The other group I'm not so sure of, I like the look of the frag cannons, but are they any good?

>>51736253

Enjoy getting eaten by Slaanesh while everyone else has figured out soulstones and rebirth.

>>51736356
>a lifetime being cliche and rude.
>says cliche anime marry sue

>>51736530
>My friends choose to play tyr
I legitimately had no idea what you were talking about until I saw crudd. I couldn't tell if you typo'd "tau" or did some faggy abbreviation for "nercontyr" or whatever.

Most people just call them 'nids for short.

>>51736579

Green texting words you can neither understand nor spell isn't impressing anyone.

>>51735242
This absolute madman just made a metallic base.
In seriousness anon please dull that base down.

>>51736571
but anon Dark Eldars can resurrect.

>>51736587
>Yvraine isn't marry sue
Okay Phill, she is deus ex machina.

>>51736548
I didn't even think to check the faq. Thanks, Anon!

Makes me wonder... If embarked units don't interact with the battlefield why are they given the fearless rule when riding in a transport?

>>51736553
>The other group I'm not so sure of, I like the look of the frag cannons, but are they any good?

Ridiculously good. Better than grav. Better than assault cannons in 4th edition.

>>51736613
Things like templates into open top and plasma attrition.

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>>51735494
Looks great for a second model!
Invest in some nuln oil and all that metal will look swell.

>>51736629
>tfw everyone tellig me to wash them
But I did

>>51736394

Is the gathering storm actually the first part? Seems like Death Masque and Warzone Fenris were part of this arc as well.

So it goes:

Imperium vs. Eldar
Imperium vs. Chaos
Imperium vs. Chaos
Imperium vs. Chaos
Eldar vs. Chaos
Imperium vs. Chaos

>>51736636
Maybe its just the lighting/photo then, but the chestpiece metal components look pretty bright to me.
Have you tried your hand at sciatic script yet?
I think based Duncan has a video on it somewhere...

>>51736713
Colchisian script, or whatever its called, not sciatic script. I always thought it looked great but never had the freehand courage to try a loyalist version.

>>51736713
Maybe because I highlighted it? I dunno.

>>51736727
Nah, I tried it on my first model, but that didn't look too good. Going to wait until I can paint better and then try it.

>>51736683
Oh, sorry, I dropped back into 40k just when FoC was released and I don't know shit about what's going on.

>>51736036
>>51736595
other anon here, i never painted a single figurine and just recently got few paints and undercoat.
What's wrong with >>51735242 paintwork?

>>51735700
hey man how well does the magnetisation work for crisis suits? from what ive seen theyre a bit small and fiddly on some points to magnetise easily, even though thats what i want to do with them when i pick up a start collecting. im a little bit worried abouyt having the little modules and things falling off and misplacing them as well as the weapons.

i was also going to paint them like farsight enclaves too, yours look great

>>51736807
Other anon who commented on his, magnetisation is the best thing you could possibly do. Pick up some 2mmx1mm magnets, they're the best size. It's great being able to switch out loads outs, I haven't magnetised mine yet since I've been busy magnetising my riptide + ghostkeel + broadside

>>51736815
are those itty bitty magnets enough to hold onto the crisis suit's weapons though or will they always be knocking off.

also do you just keep all your spare weapons in a bag? id be afraid of losing them if i had a battlecase or something.

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How would you make a MilTemp (either pure or mostly) work at 1850? I love the models but I don't want to lose every game

>>51736839
1) Take an Emperor's Shield infantry platoon
2) Shit I think I fucked up

>>51736425

You got a single fucking special character that's better than anything in our whole goddamn codex.

If we're going to have a battle over who is more shit then that is the one thing Orks CAN win.

>>51736891
Special Characters don't count, they're only used by tosspots

>>51736895
other anon here
that's true, but when my opponent fields draigo, stern and coteaz in a single unit (plus several other whatevers), I'll take what I can. (even though that single unit was wiped out by a culexus)

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>>51735222
lol

>>51735763

Would not play against/10

>I had an unused box of Tactical Marines in my room for the longest time while I had a year off from 40k
>now that I was getting back to it, I though I might want to build the squad
>it's nowhere to be found
>thought I might have thrown the whole fucking box away while cleaning once
>curse my stupidity and go buy another box of tacticals
>get back
>the other box is way in the open in an obvious place in my room
Fuck
Also fuck GW for inventing a new marine base, having mixed bases is breaking my autism super-hard

Anyone have a scanof the latest Dark Eldar codex? The one in the megas is the old one.

>>51735120
This is fucking great hahah

>>51737027
never mind, it was the latest one

>>51737018
I play SoB, IG and Inquisition.

You have any idea how triggering the 25 to 32 mm base.

So I'm here trying to decided if change everything to 32. But I can't be ass to do the basing all over again and I can't seem to find a decent 32mm resin bases. Something that does not require as much work as the miniatures.

>>51737082
>>51737018
you can put an adapter on the base - 25mm to 32mm

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>>51737082
Secret Weapon has a large range of 32mm ones

>>51737098
Anon honey. I would still need to the adapter part of the base.

Since some new models simply do not fit inside a 25mm looking at you failcast Vyridian.

I'll have to change everything to 32mm or just say fuck it and keep the old 25mm while I bitch and moan constantly for the retarded change.

>>51737133
>Anon honey
aw, you like me ^_^

>>51737131
Sweet wonder if anyone has temple/church like resin bases.

I'll look them up thanks.

>>51737133
I don't really mind it if I have a special character or single heavy weapon on a larger base, what I do mind is when I have a tactical squad on 25mm bases and next to them is another, exactly the same looking squad except they're on 32mms.

>>51737170
Yeah it's stupid. I just dug out some old plague bearers on square bases for a new chaos army I'm starting. Checked on the GW website for the correct size round bases and ordered a bunch of 25mms. In the meantime I've gone to my local store and bought a nurgle daemons start collecting box and stupidly the plastic plague bearers come on 32mm bases despite the individual box supposedly being on 25s. I'm just sticking them all on 25mm bases, they look better anyway.

>>51737252
Now that I think about it, I have 50 unbuilt tactical marines (Burning of Prospero + 2 boxes of regular marines). I wonder if that's enough.

>>51736789
There's nothing really wrong with it, but it's traditional to colour base edges either black or matching the rest of the base. Also, the metallic gold he used for the base edge looks kind of weird, because metallics don't tend to work well on large, flat surfaces and it draws attention to the rough finish of the base.

tl;dr: good miniature, weird base.

What's the ideal points limit to play at /tg/?

Me and my friend have been playing at 2000 but it takes too long. Looking for an alternative.

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>>51737293
1250. Try it. You'll like it.

>>51737293
1,500 points seems pretty good to me, although I always feels like it doesn't allow me to take all the cool stuff I want.

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>>51737300

Check'd

Dubs for truth.

Since the people in /HHG/ apparently missed my question.

Which rule book/s can I find the Zone Mortalis rules in?

Are they the same rules for both 40 and 30k?

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>>51737331

They're on the Forgeworld website as a free download. Just google Zone Mortalis, first hit.

Or, here they are.

>>51737331
>>51737395
Did people forgot the "use library" skill or what?

We are not looking for obscure manuscripts of the sixteen century.

>>51735062

Finishing up my first 1k point army, Necrons.

I kinda want to build a Space Marine army too.

>>51737293
the more you play the faster it will go.

but 1500pts is a good limit i think.

>>51737465
Next it will be Space Marines
But what then Anon? Imperial Guard? Grey Knights? Orks?
WHEN WILL IT STOP?!

>>51737465
Anon avoid having multiple T4 3+ armies
At least change the T or save.

Try one of the T3 you end discovering a lot of rules you didn't knew existed!

>>51736611
>wrong spelling again

1/10 apply yourself

>>51737516
Like what?
Also T5 standard army when

>>51737516

I would, but none of the T3 armies really appeal. They all either require too many dudes (like Guard) or are bullshit (like Eldar).

>>51737528

Death Guard, senpai.

>>51737532
T5 Standard Army with official models & Codex (supplement) when

>>51737542

Still Death Guard, senpai.

>Traitor Legions
>Plague Marines

>>51737529
Skitarii

>>51737285

I have BaC, Calth, a box of CSM, 2 boxes raptors and most of a box of terminators. So far... Two Marines are built and painted, plus 5 raptors and a single terminator wearing grey. Yay.

>>51737528
>Like what?

Instant Death! Everything has it at T3!

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>>51737529
I play SoB, Inquisition and IG army I usually end with less models than Any other army.

Granted I play MSU so vehicles are rathe common.

>>51736713
I want Duncan to put his large drybrush into my paint pot.

>>51737549
You mean the old 4th edition metal plague marines? Or the fucking rogue trader era basic marines? Not very impressed. And no, Forge World doesn't count while their prices are such bullshit.
>>51737565
Oh shit you're right! I'm so glad an autocannon can one-shot my canoness and platoon commander!
>>51737556
I technically have like 20-30 built Space Marines but most of them look so horrible I'm thinking of just throwing them out or using them as casualties on terrain pieces.
>>51737578
>MSU
Yeah, then it becomes a case of would you rather buy 30 guardsmen for 60 euros or 10 guardsmen and a chimera for 50.

>>51737578

See, I liked the idea of IG veterans, but then I realized I'd have to buy and 3 plasma guns for every squad. And they're expensive enough to basically double my squad price.

>>51737528
Instant death, moral rules, lots of tiny rules like war hymens (intentional misspelling), orders, actually play a combined arms since most of your stuff is shit on its own. Mixed armours rules.

In general the game is more fun with nid and low tier T3 armies.

This comes from someone that used to play marines and Necrons.

>Eldar actually got a buff
>That also needlessly prolongs game time by having them do more shit

But why?

>>51737609
Anon dear, the Guardsmen come with Grenanden launchers. Replace the tip of it with plasma pistols tips or any plasma/melta from the marines.

I know GW hates non marines armies, but there are ways to avoid the greed.

Also there are some sweet alternative Guard models. Specially for Mordían and Preatorian.

>>51737633

>Replace the tip of it with plasma pistols tips

Do you have any pictures of this? It sounds like it'd be useful, but I can't help but feel it'd just look like half a plasma pistol glued to a grenade launcher and not a plasma gun.

>>51737644
Right now? Nop but I'm sure google could supply you with some. I'll see what I can find

>>51737590
>Canoness
>one shot

Do you even Mantle, bro?

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>>51737625

Because Phil "The only star is Eldar" Kelly demands it!

>>51737528
I play SoB and guard mostly, and really like orders and acts of faith.

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>>51737644
Could not find one. Since it was a solution back in 3rd

But I did find one using plasma pistols and lasguns.

>>51736409
>Iz 'eh a madboy, boss?
>Nah, Eh' has loadza teef, so eh's just ork-centric.

>>51736213
you can ally fleshconstructs back in Ynaari and DE are battle brothers, what that means fluffwise i dont know, maybe one haemo cult disagrees with the others or is curious and wants to observe the ynaari

>>51735988
Metal: Grey base, black wash, grey highlight
Armour: Black base, tan layer, brown wash, tan layer, white highlight
Eye: Red,
At least six colours on that, I'd say, not including base

>>51735988

Highlights/shades count. Even my crons meet it, and they're just sprayed silver, washed black, drybrushed silver, then a bit of green on the gun tube.

>>51735176
I thought a chaos sigil counted as one of your special weapons.

So what's the environment at your local GW like? Is it full of that guys or is it pretty chill? I only started going to one recently cause they had some OOP stuff lying around that my FLGS doesn't carry, and have some painting contests coming up.

>https://www.scribd.com/doc/171916288/White-Dwarf-136
>yfw page 54, there's SS orkz.

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>>51737943

What weapons and shoulder pads i should give to my deathwatch kill team?

>>51737983
Mix the shoulderpads.
Grenade launchers are great, they've torn my warbikers to pieces.

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Today was a good day

Emperor protects

>>51735120
with crackle paint you can let something like lahmian medium flow below the finishes crackle paint to make a stronger bond to the base. thats what i always do with agrellan earth or similar

>>51737995
im gonna buy two leman russes to make looted wagons. :^)

mork (or possibly gork) protects

>>51738056
Leman russes are expensive kits to do that to, anon.

I recommend getting Trukks and model military tanks. Use Greenstuff for sandbags, and make some Syrian style technical shit. Then use plasticard to convert the military tanks.

What would you do if GW decides to squat the current universe and fuck everything.

Will you consider creating/playing/be part of a new game kind of like 9th Age was for fantasy were the community decides everything.

>>51735062
My BA Death Company. Like, basically an entire chapter's Death Company, maybe about 70 or so guys kitted out with various weapons.

>>51738138
I'll continue playing 7th.

>>51738056
for the orkperator?

>>51737943
Most Stormboyz are usually younger Orks who for various, inexplicable reasons, have grown tired of the normaly anarchic lifestyle among the regular Ork boyz. Tired of being told that they can do whatever they want they seek the way to rebel against typical Ork lifestyle. Longing for discipline, these youths often run off to join a Stormboyz camp. This is particularly typical of the youths of the Goffs and Blood Axe clans.

>>51738183
Even with the clumsiness and bloated rules

>>51738138
i go with the flow, i.e. do what the others in my group decide to do

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>>51736530
Nids are actually not as bad as some would have you believe. Some nid players are whiny babies who would bitch even if they had a "you win on t3" ability because it didnt happen turn 1. Some also play them because then they can always have an excuse for losing, because they're too cowardly to admit they might not be as smart as they think they are. Now the nids codex is by no means the best, but it aint the worst. If the models weren't cool I wish they'd squat them.

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Hey guys, what do you think about my new list?

The main purpose is to use conclaive to provoke opponent into assaulting me IRL, so they will get fined for an assault.

>>51738284
top 3 units is that formation that get warp charges on 3+

>>51738284
Y'nneed to pick a better army.

>>51738078
well 40k is expensive.

im used to it

>>51737719
I like that

>>51736839
Look at the ground and air formations they have, they're both okay and make a good core for your army. If you're going to start the formations off the table turn 1, you need some armor to keep you on the table, so you have to bring in either Inquisition (for land raiders) or IG (for tanks) so you don't auto lose.

Otherwise go with a CAD or the new castellan's detachment. The hellrain brigade will be helpful if you run out of slots in the CAD for command squads

I run the ground assault formation and a CAD of deep strikers and a Valkyrie. It seems to work well enough for playing towards and taking objectives

Don't expect to win every game with these guys, but if you play them well and force your opponent to engage on your terms you will have a very fun game. Remember these guys are a mid-field army so you have to be aggressive.

>>51738370
>Landraiders
If only the bloody things didn't cost 200+ points when shit like Riptide exist for less.

>>51738138
They're not going to be stupid enough to do that.

But if they did, yeah, I would write the community ruleset.

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looking to start a daemons army lads, is this a good way to start?
still need paints and stuff but will get them elsewhere.

>>51738460
Ok Lad. Just get the Codex from the Mega as an ebook. Don't waste your cash on what you can get for free.

>>51738460
>possessed
no, never, not even once

>>51738261
I've been playing nids since second ed. They are the worst off they've ever been in the history of GW right now. Just because some faggots can play a an unfluffy 5 flyrant list that excludes 95% of the options in the book including all the classic iconic units and doesn't even have a spitting resemblance to an honest Tyranid play style, and still only manages to be in the bottom tier of the tourney environment, doesn't mean shit. You are full of shit.

>>51738472
naa having the physical 'dex is useful, if you actually have the models, and want to play in a GW

>>51736683
Death Masque and Fenris is the prologue, gathering storm is the start, then after Guilliman comes back we move onto whatever the middle is.

>>51738472
ive already got it but i just find it easier to navigate the physical book, guess i could just print the PDF i have from the mega

>>51738489
Just pick up the codex last. No need to spend the money now on the book before you have all the models you want and are actually ready to play the game.

>>51738481
They sell them digitally.

Also do I really need to bring all the books and shit? Specially with how bloated it can get.

>>51738483
Gathering Storm is A New Hope.

The next trilogy of campaign books is Empire Strikes Back.

>>51738505
I also find it easier to use a physical book
YMMV I guess

>>51738474
need them for slaughercult

>>51738460
which webstore is that?

>>51738515
whats the formation bonus?

>>51738522
Dark sphere

>>51738505
At most you only need like one small paperback and two hard covers.

I will never understand how this generation can be such whiny faggots about carrying around a couple light books. You weak faggots would have been killed off by natural selection in the days of the 3rd ed BBB, that was a monster tome.

>>51738524
Blood Frenzy: At the beginning of each of your turns, before deciding whether or not to expend any Blood Tithe points, you automatically generate one additional Blood Tithe point.
Chosen of Khorne: If this Detachment is your Primary Detachment, you can re-roll the result when rolling on the Warlord Traits table in Codex: Khorne Daemonkin.

>>51736595
>>51736036
I did it for the memes.

In all seriousness, I'm likely going to go back over it in black. I liked the look of it and it made the sergeant stand out easily, but there's a patch or two of rough finish, yeah.

>>51738513
If I bring the books I need to play the stupidity GW allows me to play.
I wound need an army box for the books.

Rulebook
Sky rules thingy
Fortifications
Marines
IA
Inquisition
IG
Scion
Skitarii
Mechanicus
Knights

I know it is my fault for going this silly but is just to make an example

>>51738499
The fuck assbackwards logic is this? You need the Codex to understand what the models do and what their options are and what sort of Formations there are to build towards. You always start with the Codex FIRST.

So can Ynnari use a CAD/AD or is it just the formations in the book?

>>51738527
Thanks. Apparently, they don't ship to Croatia.

>>51738567
Just the formations from the book

>>51738565
he was saying that i should get the codex of the mega for free and buy a hard copy later

general reminder that general threads are a cancer by the literal definition.

>>51738557
yeah naw, you reap what you sow m88

>>51738557
Oh forgot the Fall of Cadia.

Hell if I only play SoB my rules are spread over 2 books.
Add some Inquisition and it can be turn into two extra ones, if I try to play the old Witchhunters I could end with two more.

In other words you can add up a lot of books if you want to

>>51738575
Oh okay, yeah of you've got the PDF that makes sense, my bad.

>>51738574
So it it just best to focus on getting as many objectives as possible since Ynnari don't get OS?

>>51738460

What website is that?
And yeah it's a start anon.

>>51738617
Dark Sphere

>>51738557

>Sky rules thingy
Option rules are optional

>Fortifications
Are you bringing fortifications?

>IA
>Inquisition
Inquisition is digital only. And the only real reason to bring both IA and Inquisition is you're going for having your cake and eating it too, grabbing Inq's cheese while taking IA Coteaz for Obj Secured Cas of the Impeium

>IG
>Scion
Unless you're running Scion orders / scion as a Warlord, they're the exact same as IG.

>>51738628
IG Scion can't be Troops. If I wish to use the FoC formation thingy.

I want Inquisition codex for 16 point psykers. (Psyker plus the two Acolytes) and IA for the SoB rules or you know the Inquisition for a less retarded Acolyte squad if I just want DCA, Crusaders and a priest.

Anyway it is an example of how bloated it can get. So the digital option is rather nice.

In any case I usually just print the rules for the shit I'll use. Since I'm too old for bringing a suit case worth of books.
I miss third when it started all the rules where in a single rulebook.

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>>51735176
>tfw the baneblade turret turns and shatters the fuckton of skulls placed along its periphery

>>51738475
nids are really bad because literally everyone got invo saves and fnp and a million attacks. shit like wulfen and riptides could be doubled in cost and still be good.

except tyranids and orks. well orks got lots of attacks at least...

>>51738731
Oh wait my bad im only seeing now that the moving turret is actually on top of what i thought was the turret. But those skulls tho

>>51738680
>IG Scion can't be Troops. If I wish to use the FoC formation thingy.

And? It's the same rules in IG.
Only difference is there is no platoon and the Command Squad = HQ and the Scions are Troops.

>>51736390
All about Chaos, but Chaos doesn't get rules.

>>51738757
MT Scion are troops
AM Scion are Elite

Beside wanting Objective Secure or using it for the FoC Castellan formation.

The main difference is that in the formation you can have 3 Scion squads that may respawn instead of a single squad that can respawn as long the comissar is alive plus the tax command squad and taurox.

It is basically min maxing T3 models from mid to low tier armies.

>>51738737
Does anyone else feel like Orks and Tyranids are very similar in design? Kustom force field/venomthropes, lack of invo saves, lack of fnp (orks are a bit better on that), awful psychic powers and so on.

I think they are designed the way they wanted the game to be and then everyone else after them fucked it up.

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>Necrons are based on ancient Egyptians
>Egypt was undoubtedly a black african civilization

Are actually necrons black?

Did legionaries use the same pattern of drop pods GW makes?

>>51738820
Radiation would darken the skin tone, so yes.

>>51738820
No they are silver.

>>51738820
More like brown or spotted like in vitiligo

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Time for some rules layering/questions.

RAW: A model with two close combat weapons gains an extra attack.

Bullgryn : A model may replace his Slabshield and Grenadier Gauntlet with a Power Maul and Brute Shield.

Brute Shield italics/fluff text: '...serve equally well in combat as a defensive measure and handy bludgeon.'

It does not specify that it counts as an additional CCW, but, I postulate, that with a Power Maul (which -is- a dedicated CCW) and the loss of a Slabshield for what is effectively an Ogryn sized Combat Shield, a Bullgryn gains an additional attack.

Yea or Nay?

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>>51738820
Nercons are muslim

>>51738877
No

>>51738877
Fluff text doesn't matter when it comes to crunch.

>>51738877
nope.

the fluff text doesnt matter at all for rules.

>>51738820
>Negrons

>>51738894
>>51738901
>>51738902

There is nothing that says I am not correct. There is no ranged weapon to take up a slot and does not specify that it doesn't count as a close combat weapon.

>>51738877

I'd say sure.
Bullgryns are still hot garbage though.

>>51738914
>and does not specify that it doesn't count as a close combat weapon.

40k is a permissive ruleset. Unless the rules say something IS something, it isn't.

>>51738914
Unless it says it's a CCW, as in it directly says so in the RULES part, it's not a CCW.

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>>51738913

>>51738914
B8

>>51738913
In Spanish we call Necrons, "Negrones" because "Necrones" is the Spanish name for them it sounds rather similar.

So yah Necrons are niggers

>>51738805
It's because Cruddace phoned in both their codexes because he's an unlikable cunt so the design team give him the job of doing the books no one is interested in. I presume Phil Kelly was busy with Dark Eldar at the time or something because he at least likes Tyranids.

Crud needs to be fired yesterday.

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>>51738820
>Egypt was undoubtedly a black african civilization

>>51735120
You could just cut down the bipod. You know those things are adjustable for height irl?

>>51738923
>>51738930

I'd argue that til the day ended purely that it was a line omitted and no one questioned it in passing because no one takes Bullgryns, therefore no one gave them a second thought.

Even though you can easily get a bunch of Vets with 2+ cover from them, they are really overcosted. And being Very Bulky is bullshit.

>>51739016
>And being Very Bulky is bullshit.
Huh? They're bigger than terminators.

>>51739049
sure but it sucks for them gameplay wise.

if they were just bulky a squad of 6 could fit in a chimera. that would almost be useful.

>>51739016
If you want a see a codex that's too weak for having 'obvious' lines of rules omitted, see Orks.

Otherwise, you're trying to squeeze out an extra attack on something with a 5+ invuln, 5 toughness, 3 wounds, and a power maul. They're shitty because they're slow assault units, not because they don't get enough attacks.

>>51739062
Fuck off, the biggest problem with 40k is too many rules not matching the fluff, and you want to exacerbate that???

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>>51738913

>>51739064
>Why is the Gorkanaut not an assault vehicle when Land Raiders are?
>Why does the Gorkanaut have 4 rokkits on the model but only two in the rules?
>Why can a Gorkanaut only fit 6 models but a much smaller Land Raider Crusader can fit 20?
>Why can Pain Boyz take Cybork for no effect?
>Why does the kustom force field cost the same on morkanauts and big meks?
>Why does the kustom force field work on enemies?


i want to die

>>51736356
>I heard the Visarch is even teaching sword techniques

What is even the point of this guy?

I'm pretty sure I can make an Archon better at beatsticking than he is for 150pts.

GW really fucked up by making the best model of the trio literally useless.

I need a gimmick for a Ultramarines successor chapter.

>>51739016
Rule-As-Intended is an extremely fickle position to try and argue from. The moment you use the argument "well, I think the developers meant THIS..." you open yourself up to your opponent making any number of similar counter-claims.

>>51739049
And yet use the same base.

>>51739064
And costs more than a Leman Russ BEFORE any upgrades. With just 3 of them carrying Power Mauls they become 190 points.

You can throw down an Executioner with Plasma Sponsons for 5 points less.

>>51739128
orks use 25mm bases and their feet poke out a lot. nobz can barely fit at all.

what is your point

>>51739091
>LRC can transport 20 models

No, it's down to 16. Try again.

>why does Ork tech work both ways

About the same reason why a Skyshield can bounce shots back and forth and make one stray Heavy Bolter shot from a Russ penetrate it's own front armor twice.

>>51739110
ap2 at initiative except fuck that because lolnogrenades

Also no Invul despite having the Dire Avenger shimmershield is bullshit

>>51739138
They're probably supposed to be on 32mm bases. I actually bought a bunch of 32mm bases to re-do my marines because of the update.

Plus it gives my guard bases back.

>>51739110
>What is even the point of this guy?

Four St5 AP2 attacks per turn in close combat. The best an Archon can get is AP3, and he's stuck with a Huskblade at his measly St3 or the 4+ Poison Agoniser. He also gets his free bonus Warlord Trait, which could see him picking up Furious Charge or ID-on-a-6.

He's squishy as all hell, but he's only 150 points, and brings a reasonable amount of hitting power along with a couple of neat special rules.

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>>51739145
>aeldari players complaining the leaders of the newest flavor of cheese are not that great
>despite the new bullshit faction they now have

>>51739110
Archon w/Shadow Field + Agoniser

Boom, literally the exact same statline as the Visarch, but more survivable and cheaper.

>>51739175
>but more survivable and cheaper.

And does significantly less damage in combat.

>>51739175
Agonizers are AP 2 now? Archons come with Rampage?

>>51739169
>boo hoo eldarrr

Yeah, sure, wraithguard are OP, we know. I'm not interested in them, though.

I want to run stuff that looks cool, like Avengers and Incubi, and the Visarch looks cool. Unfortunately he's about half as valuable as other, cheaper HQs.

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>>51739169
The eldar faction is the only bullshit part of the book no-one complains about Deldar and Harlies which everyone is making their lists from

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gonna be taking this against some new players today. I want to show them a few cool things like the conclave and what the dominus can do. going against 1250 chaos or 1250 eldar/darkeldar depending on which one wants to play me.

>>51739219
The Agoniser is arguably far more useful, as it can hurt things the Visarch's sword simply can't.

AP2 is great and all, but how often to you actually need it? When was the last time you saw someone actually use Terminators?

>New Player Dumb Question Time

Which squad should I put my Space Marine HQ in?

I know I should either take a captain or librarian, but I don't know what squad they should go into since they won't fit in a rhino with a tactical squad, but if I put them with a veteran squad or terminator squad, it feels like I'm putting all my eggs in one basket and that squad will just draw fire.

>>51739222
Did you miss the deep striking no scattering war walker?

The new shit made shit that was good/decent to broken.

>>51739255
Normally captains are stabby so basically

Is it in Termiantor Armour - Put
him in AssTermies or Honor Guard in a LRC

Is it in a Jump-pack - Vanguard Vets

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does anyone has some suggestions on how i could greenstuff a shemag (or even a normal scarf) for my IG tallarn project?

>>51739303

Just roll out some greenstuff really flat and just sculpt it around their heads. That's how I made the flayed skin for my Flayed Ones.

>>51739252
>When was the last time you saw someone actually use Terminators?

Pretty often. I'll admit that my meta is pretty casual, but in that sort of environment, 2+ save units aren't all that uncommon. And in a more competitive group, there's no point in bringing the Visarch OR an Archon, because they'll be shot to death on turn 2 and you'll wish you'd just paid 10 points for a dummy HQ Lahmian.

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>>51739303
Consider 3rd party heads instead of greenstuff it might look better