Age of Sigmar General /aosg/

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First for the plaguefather

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I'm just going to throw this in here for fun. Heres my 2k nurgle daemons list. The prince stays with the drones to activate their ability and to be extra killy. The list also has the tallyband ability where plaguebearer units regenerate lost models (I REAALLY hope thats not considered summoning)

Did you oil up your gryph's haunches tonight, AoS?

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elves when?

>>51702303
Never

>>51702289
WTF is this forced meme?

Where did it come from?

What does it mean?

>GW removes the Space Marine outside HQ and replaces it with a Stormcast Eternal.

>People complain that Stormcast Eternals get support from GW over other factions.

What?

>>51702332
Calling oily Gryph-hounds a forced meme is a forced meme.

>>51702352
Wait, did this happen?

>>51702368
What ever happened to that ugly brown daemon prince with the pink armor meme?

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>>51702374
Yes.

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so these are as good as I am willing to make them and next up is the 30 darkshards in the back.

How does this look?

Allegiance: Sylvaneth

Leaders
Branchwraith (100)
- Artefact: Warsong Stave
- Deepwood Spell: Verdant Blessing

Branchwraith (100)
- Artefact: Acorn of the Ages
- Deepwood Spell: Treesong

Branchwych (100)
- General
- Trait: Realm Walker - Sylvaneth
- Artefact: The Silverwood Circlet
- Deepwood Spell: The Dwellers Below

Battleline
10 x Dryads (120)
10 x Dryads (120)
10 x Dryads (120)

Units
3 x Kurnoth Hunters (180)
- Greatbows

Battalions
Harvestboon Wargrove (100)
Forest Folk (60)

Scenery
Sylvaneth Wyldwood - Sylvaneth Allegiance (0)

Total: 1000/1000

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Reposting.

>>51702451

its funny cause after reading that I feel like I have just read a typical sigmar thread.

Fucking hilarious shit there, two thumbs up!

>>51702451
printing now

>>51702451
So the eagle and bone zone are my default squares?

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>>51702328
>Never

don't tease me ;)

>>51702406
They look bretty gud mate

>>51702406
They seriously need some washes. Otherwise I really dig the Blood Elf theme, it brings up memories.

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>>51702303
>>51702537

it begins

>>51702594
I'm using plague monks as counters

>>51702594
Free space is oiled up Gryphs, so don't forget you got that one.

>>51702406
nice, but if it isn't the light, I would give them a wash. Also the bases could use some work.

>>51702279
Wait, would this count as a slow melee list?

>>51702401
As much as I like AoS, this still makes me sad.

>>51702451
Explain the moshpit and bone zone tiles

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>>51702652
>slow melee list

>>51702685
Shit. So how exactly should I be playing Nurgle?

>>51702640
>if it isn't the light

its the light. everything is washed once at least

>>51702406
Paint the faces

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>>51702704
Play it purple

>>51702726
>Paint the faces

above my skill level

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>>51702406
Not purple enough

>>51702279
looks alright.

Hey, anybody got the Hinterlands PDF handy?

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>>51702989

>>51702704
Don't fucking listen to these dipshits.

You play this list with objectives. Doesn't matter how slow you are when your opponent will have to come to you anyway and you're durable as fuck.

Only time slow melee lists suck is when they're fragile to boot.

>>51703137
How do you get to the objectives when you're slow and you don't do a lot of damage?

>>51703159
>how do you get to the objective

You run your rotting ass. If you're this worried about speed you don't play Nurgle my friend.

>>51703065
Legend

>>51703065
Thanks!

>>51703176
>eat the charge or get completely jammed out on objectives

yep, the nurgle experience

What if you have a thunderhead brotherhood (3x liberators + 2x judicators) that gives +1 saves vs. shooting, and slowly shamble ahead? Still shitty vs. heavy shooting units?

>>51703137
This guy gets it. Everyone else is memeing and hasn't played the game. Nurgle stronk.

>>51703392
That's comforting to hear. I'm about to plop down good money for a 1k list to give my stormcast 1k list a good foe.

And I hate painting hordes cos I suck at it.

>>51703392
You're the one memeing, Nurgle is shit and so are you. You don't play the game.

>>51703432
I'd honestly get a different army

>>51703392
Are you playing against a brick wall?

Nurgle is not as bad as KBB but it's still bad and easy to counter.

>>51703516
Hmm. I have my stormcast painted as hallowed knights, and I really wanna get nurgle because that's what they're seen fighting all the time.

I was gonna run a campaign for the boys in the office about a "lost legion" where the hallowed knights go deep behind enemy lines, and fight their way to an arcane machine that prevents the souls of fallen stormcast from returning to Sigmar.

Since I'm going to be the idiot paying for everything and painting all that shit, Nurgle seems to look real cool compared to Khorne (I don't really like the gothic theme) and Tzeench (I love them, but won't be able to paint them to look good enough).

Perhaps Skaven? Or recommend me a worthy, fluffy foe for hallowed knights suicide squad?

>>51702732
Jesus mold lines and unfilled gaps

>>51703565
Slaanesh

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How to accidentally kill your flatmate

>>51703717
That doesn't really seem like an accident, so much as deniable

>>51703695
But... but... Slaneesh is no more?

>>51703784
in new tzeentch book he's mentioned as "absent" but not gone or dead. He mite be back, just like tzeentch getting upper hand atm because nurgle and khorne are getting pushed by order.

>>51704058
So I should wait for a few more months? I might just do that while building the extremis chamber side of guys.

what do you guys think about the Stormcast Vanguard Hunters??

https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/PDF/AoS_Warscrolls/aos-warscroll-Vanguard-Hunters-en.pdf

They seem handy for seizing enemy objectives/threatening enemy war machine crew/Skaven Jezzails, more so than winning a straight up brawl.

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So is the Grimnir here Gotrek or the original?

>>51704141
Still waiting for the points. Everything comes down to how much they cost to field.

>>51702715
>>51702640

They could also use highlights, which you've been saying you'd do for months now but they still haven't materialized.

Are you lying to us Anon

I have a question about fluff. Where do all the factions live? Are all order factions in Azyr? If I was walking around in Azyr should I picture treedudes chillin with some golden statue with a hammer, drinking tea and being serves by an "Aelf" of questionable origin? If I turn around would I see a fat tattooed orange bearded turd riding a lava shitting lizard down a magical street with crystal cathedrals? Like what realm is everyone in? Can they be found in any realm? Im assuming most free guild soldiers wearing a dirty tunic with holy scrolls redwax stamped to them won't be chilling down the street of some heavenly crystal city, amright?

>>51704141
Assuming they are priced reasonably (~120), there is a lot to like about them. Their pseudo-Outflank means that the opponent will have to dedicate some units to protect his backfield, lest these assholes come in and murder the shit out of some squishy wizards or warmachine crews.
And if they are Battleline, even better.

>>51704408
Basically everywhere.
A significant portion of humans, elves and dwarves retreated to Azyr during the age of chaos, yes. Some of those have set out to re-populate the other realms now that Sigmar's capaign has begun to recapture the realmgates and build huge-ass fortress cities all over the place.
But others remained (and died in droves for it). There's a lot of tension between the two groups; the Azyrites see the Reclaimed (i.e. the natives of the realms) as bullheaded, shifty and prone to corruption while the Reclaimed consider the Azyrites to be pampered, cowardly and stuck-up.

Sylvaneth are native to the realm they are born in (Ghyran for the most part, but they crop up everywhere).
Fyreslayers also remained in the realms during the age of chaos.
Seraphon chill somewhere in Azyr, but where exactly isn't clear.

And, actually, yes, you'd find those freeguild soldiers in Azyrheim. There's a constant muster going on in the eternal city and forces like the Freeguild are itching to kick chaos in the balls after centuries of preparation.

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So in last thread a lot of fokes suggested that I should go with skellingtons instead of Tzeentch and Ogres.

Where do I start? Start Collecting Deathrattle and then just fill out with skellies?
I was thnking about something like for 1k points:
1x Arhan
1x Necromancer
30x Skeletons
5x Black Knights
and then either keep points for summoning skellingtons, or field up another 20 of them right away.
Also, does Arkhan break deathrattle allegance and I can't use black knights as battleline?

>>51704141
IF they are battleline they'll be the unit of choice for cavalry-centric lists, otherwise they are a nice way to reliably project threat without using battalions.

>>51704637
Yes, he lacks the Deathrattle keyword.

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>No Start Collecting Ogors

When will destruction get some modern non-greenskin love?

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Why does Stormcast Eternals have bolters now?

>>51704874
you have big box with 2 mammoths, 4 mourfang cavalry and some kittens and yeties

>>51704893
Anon, they're not bolters! They're clearly crossbows except that the string goes through the magazine! Definitely NOT bolters because that is too much like Space Marines.

>>51704893
Because modern GW has the creativity of a brick.

>>51705004
Heresy... I mean, praise Sigmar! They clearly fire magical bolts!

>>51704893
lol, well memed

sigmarines lol, epic burn! dude age of sigmar more like age of SHITmar amirite guyz

fuck off

>>51704893
>>51705004
>>51705006
>>51705023

how about you trolls fuck off back to /whfg/

I mean, you say in your OP that AoS is #notmywarhammer and shills should go elsewhere so stay in your containment thread please.

>>51705046
Someone is butt blasted

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Most recent mini vs first mini.

> sword need a highlight but I lost my runefang silver
> I fugged up the knife

>>51705121
Fuck last time I don't resize my pic, makes the whole paint job look like total shit due to the pic being about 4 times the size of the actual miniature...

>>51704117
I'd wait till Summer to make a decision. It's a long ways away but I bet there will be some pretty sweet kits released by then.

>>51704141
If they are BL and have a reasonable cost then Liberators and Judicators won't see play anymore imho.

Each model gets 4 attacks per turn, 6 attacks for the prime if I'm reading this right, and they can deepstrike. With 2 wounds and a 4+ save they're fairly beefy as well.

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>>51704893
>>51705004
>>51705006
>>51705023
And where is the problem? SCE are better marines than SMs ever were. It's not like even some fucking guards are higher than SM. Age of Sigmar made everything better - killed old and bad game, gave us new rules and neat minis. I just can't wait for Emperors' death and Age of new Emperor will start

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>>51705442
Yes, you are reading that right, though the shooting attacks only happen on your turn, obviously.
They also can't take grand weapons and are slightly squishier, but really, they have different jobs. Liberators' main job to eat charges, screen more valuable stuff and get buffed by a Lord-Castellant and a Lord-Celestant sitting behind them, Hunters are there to operate independently, harass the enemy and murder warmachine crews and buff heroes.

any recommendations for an all cav or all elite unit/monster list?

>>51705064
I'm this guy.>>51705006

I've never played WHFB, but I play AoS.

Sure, models are getting more detailed (overly so), but they're getting more static-posed and generic.

I play Skaven. Look at Stormfiends. You have 3 mono-pose dudes with only weapon swaps available. There are less posing/customizing options than even fucking clanrats.

>>51704874
No star collecting Naked dwarfs
Booooo

>>51705381
Might as well start collecting dracothian guys while I wait then.

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I was thinking about starting a skaven army.
I love the looks of some of the models and the lore behind the skaven, do they perform well in AoS or not?

>>51705600
I heard Skryre is strong but the other clans are weak.

Flesheater court 1.5k army, elite heavy and no shooting. Good idea? Dumb idea?

- Abhorrent Ghoul King (100)
- Crypt Haunter Courtier (120)
- Crypt Haunter Courtier (120)
- 6x Crypt Horrors (280, battleline)
- 6x Crypt Horrors (280, battleline)
- 6x Crypt Horrors (280, battleline)
- 1x Terrorgheist (320, behemoth)

Total: 1500/1500

>>51702672
Moshpit is where people think all AoS is is running your armies into the middle and killing each other. It's neglecting to even play battle plans. It's the equivalent of who just placing 40k armies down and shootign at each other.

Bone zone... I think is Skeleton army stuff? Not too sure.

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>>51702451
>Nothing about Nurgle
So I can still ask about Papa's battletome and new models, right? Few threads ago two Anons were talking about their LGS managers and their hint to not buy GUO because a something new is coming

>>51706001
LGS guys never now anything more than the general public does.
Redshirts might now something like a week in advance, sometimes.

>>51706098
Shiet, I mean GW staff ofc. Sorry, I have only LGSs in my area so I don't really know this GW-related nomenclature

>>51706124
Redshirts are GW staff. Unless they are regional managers they know barely anything more than we do.
Any 'hint, hint, nudge, nudge'-stuff on their part is purely made-up.

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The creator of lord Cetrix and Knight-Alexia is Introducing... The Bard
Born a poorer boy in a small township, the bard grw up scrouging for scraps of the noble family who owned the farms and village that sprawled out around them. Most of his station knew too well the limitations that their poorer breeding had set upon their dreams, but the young bard was a dreamer, enamoured with the daughter of the nobles he would spend his nights singing in the gardens beneath her balcony, just to see her smile. Night after night he sang to her, whislt she leant so elegantly against the balcony rail and smiled down to him, and with each night his confidence grew until he called up to her, begging for her hand in marriage.
The young girl ofcourse had no intent on marrying him, and yet she was curious how far her admirer would go to win her hand, telling him that if she was to be his wife he must procure a ring worthy of her hand. Now the young boy toiled in the farms by day, the living he made barely enough to cover the scraps of food that sustained him, but he knew if he could save that money... just for a while he could get a ring and win his lady love. He began to cut back on food, day by day buying a little less, his already gaunt form becoming withdrawn and skeletal and yet... when on the brink of starvation he finally bought the ring he needed to win his lady loves hand.
That night he returned to her balcony, starved and shrunken but raising the ring aloft to her triumphantly, the moonlight glinting off of its golden form. Rather than the acceptance of his gesture the boy was greeted by the riotous laughter of the young noble woman and her servants, their scorn and ridicule echoing in his ears as he staggered, starved and half dead out into the wilderness.

>>51706328

Too long he had gone without food, he barely made it to the treeline before his frail form and broken heart simply gave way, perishing there... alone.
Many years on, rumours and whispers across the realm speak of a voice only the nobles can hear, of a bard of sweetest tone singing sweet songs in the gardens of their fine mansions. Of young ladies slipping from their chambers in the night to find their gentleman caller. They follow a voice entranced, sweet and soft beckoning them onwards, the gentle chiming of bells ringing out in the darkness.
They see a figure clad in finery, a brazier illuminating his form in the darkness, it is only in their final moments, when retreat has lojng fled as a viable option that his sneering broken skull leans into the light. The Bard has claimed many a victim, their broken skulls adorning the chest of fine gifts for his "Courting" of the nobles, in death far more than he could ever have dreamed in life.

>>51706328
>>51706336
Yeah, I'm out. The cringe.

>>51706328
>>51706336
Cool fluff, I like to read other peoples writing for their dudes. I can post mine if you want, although I have posted it here several times before.

>>51705652
>>51705600
Nah, skryres just the best. Pestilens and verminus are also both good. Just don't run pure eshin and you'll do fine.

>>51706328
>>51706336
Quick critique, you might want to pay a little more attention to your sentence structures. Keep them short and terse will improve the flow of your sentences.

Example:

"Rather than the acceptance of his gesture, the boy was greeted by the riotous laughter of the young noble woman and her servants. Their scorn and ridicule echoed in his ears, and he staggered into the wilderness, starving and half-dead."

I think this would read better.

>>51704874
Because, we all need more thundertusk spam and stonehorns at 1k

>>51703516
>>51703545
>>51703507
>>51703159
>Implying that he should only be playing competitively and not for keks.

Honestly, it's a capable force. Attrition is a viable strategy since you ARE reviving d6 models per turn in each unit and healing the rest, with epidemius buffing and the prince and drones flying ahead to kill shit and cap stuff.

>>51706436
Show us your writing for your dudes then.

>>51706549
Don't be mad anon, they're just jealous because they're all uncreative cucks. REAL fantasy gamers have an entire odessy for their heros

>>51705557
I don't really have a problem with well done monopose, as a matter of fact the models that all the grognards are nostalgic about are monopose as well.

Most of the multipart plastic kits just offer a lot of useless costumisation, with only 4 poses looking natural. Biggest problem with the Stormfiends is that it was supposed to be a one of a kind unit in your army and now they are pushing it is as a weird core unit which just doesn't look that good due to the lack of head options and other stuff.

The new Dark Elf spearmen are monopose and those look great in my opinion.

>>51705557
stormfiends are a WHFB release, not an AoS release

>>51706563
Not the Anon who you replied to, but when it comes to posing, one of the best models that I at least thought had/has a great variety in posing is the beastmen Gors. Weapons could be placed in almost any attacking pose you wanted, heads could be turned various way, shields could be close to the body or away from the body, etc.

>>51703545
>Are you playing against a brick wall?
Not him, but I have Dwarfs, so I guess I am the brick wall myself.

Who needs speed when you have a wall of heavy armour that ignores rend, and never runs away!

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>>51706503
>thundertusk

>>51705910
Yeah but to be fair, 9/10 times that works pretty good since most AoS games dont even go the full 6 turns.

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>>51705910
>Moshpit is where people think all AoS is is running your armies into the middle and killing each other.

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>>51705064
>how about you trolls fuck off back to /whfg/

>>51706631
Well he's not supporting the idea unlike >>51706629

>>51703784
>>51703766
So are you suggesting that it got squatted?

>>51706648
Again, am i wrong that it ends up working/the game ends up like that 9/10 times?

>>51706648
So close... we are only on post 114 and Im two away from bingo in two directions! I am going to have bingo before work is over today for sure.

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>>51703784
>>51703766
>>51706662

>But... but... Slaneesh is no more?

>>51706631
It doesn't count if you are explaining what it means you cretin, only if it is what someone actually thinks.

>>51702672
The Bone Zone is when you use large units of Skeleton Spearmen, buffed by various heroes to have absurd stats. Deathrattle units are actually very dangerous in large numbers if they have a Deathrattle hero nearby, but you can give them more buffs with other characters as well.

Guys, guys, I love Fyreslayers. But I do think dropping a bit of their points will make them viable. Right?

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>>51706723
Kek muh foulrain congregations

>>51706663
Considering most scenarios have objectives placed in different locations on the board, it really shouldn't end like that, no.

Only mono-objective scenarios should be even close to resembling a mosh pit, but even then that will only happen if the defender keeps all his units in one place instead of trying to split up the attacker, and there aren't that many scenarios like this either.

>>51706733
Yes, especially since they all carry throwing axes and can thus shoot into a melee they themselves are engaged in (which is bullshit). Their high cost kept them balanced, but a 20% cut across the board might be too much and will make them OP.
Points were a mistake, at least before the GBH you could eyeball that shit.

>>51706733
Fuck. Another step closer to bingo I guess

>>51706755
Jeez. Getting really close now.

>>51706755
Laying it on a little too thick, anon. Three slots on the bingo in one post is too obvious.

>>51706779
I only see two

>>51706800
Oh, now I see it

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Realms of Conflict - Warhammer: Age of Sigmar Battle Report - Ep 35

https://youtu.be/WmodPdRWckE

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>>51706755
>a 20% cut across the board might be too much and will make them OP.

>>51706751
Right it should not end like that, but I mean how often does it end up in a pile in of forces to just kill each other off

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>>51706755
>thus shoot into a melee they themselves are engaged in (which is bullshit)

>>51706859
>and can thus shoot into a Marlee they're engaged in (which is bullshit)
>points were a mistake

>>51706860
If you don't play objectives - every game.

If you do play objectives - I have seen it end that way like, 10% of the time maybe?

The matched play objectives tend to require you to move units around to defend and contest a lot, which is why slow melee armies are a laughing stock, and things like the Sylvaneth (which can teleport from tree to tree) are doing so well, despite being mostly Melee themselves.

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>>51706755
>Points were a mistake

>>51706887
>>51706870
>>51706859
Dude stop it already, nobody cares about your shitty bingo

>>51706859
Might as well cross of 'AoS was better withoug points' and 'Shooting into melee is OP', since those were also covered by that post.
But it was probably bingo-bait. There is such a thing as being too on-the-nose.

>>51706887
>>51706870
>>51706859
>>51706878
Guys, are you really that desperate to be baited?

>>51706894
Kak off, we've been at this since last night when I started this unholy thread.

>>51706895
We should add "bingo baiting" to the list

>>51706909
I second this. I say replace the bottom right corner

Flesheater 1k, how do you compensate with their lack of shooting?

>>51706933
You're fast

>>51706957
If my foe is smart they'd set up shield lines and tar pits. What do? Ghoul patrol?

>>51706981
Don't play death

>>51707018
That or spam tomb kings until the nerf

>>51707028
Any death heroes that buff vs. shooting?

>>51706909
Do you really think they will stop if we give them a square?

>>51707219
No, but it'll stop it from filling too fast

>>51707242
Kek

>>51707219
Maybe you should stop with your self-important bingo?

Just because you don't like something doesn't mean that others have to dislike it.

Are you the same person who dislikes slick and oily gryph hounds?

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List rate?

>>51707291
I find it funny.

>>51707291
I actually like it a lot

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WARHAMMER QUEST: SHADOWS OVER HAMMERHALL

Warhammer Quest: Shadows over Hammerhall is a stand-alone boxed game for 2-5 players set in the splendid city of Order – Hammerhall. Up to 4 players can quest in the catacombs and dungeons below the city, while another acts as game master, setting fiendish obstacles, controlling the antagonists (monsters) and setting the story – it’s up to this player to take charge of revealing the secrets each dungeon has to offer.

The game is fully compatible with the Warhammer Quest: Silver Tower game and the Hero Cards. Any miniatures or rules the customer already owns for that game can also be used in this game. In addition, the game has a lot of replay-ability, as character level up and increase their skills as you play. The box contains 32 miniatures, including:
Lord Castellant and Gryph Hound
Cogsmith
Black Art Fleetmaster
Loremaster

Chaos Sorcerer Lord
Slaughterpriest
5 Putrid Blightkings
10 Kairic Acolytes
10 Bloodreavers
72 page guide book
32 page adventure book
18 double sides board sections
55 cards
16 dice
+ Counters and markers

25th Feb.
prize £90

>High Fantasy
Okay
>Setting takes place on planes of magic
Sure
>Immortal Warriors infused with the power of their god
Cool
>Crossbow bolter
WTF NO THIS IS STUPID GW BLAH BLAH BLAH

>>51707535
We should add complaining about cross-bolters to the bingo in the bottom right.

>>51707500
I might just get this because of blightkings and acolytes.

>>51707415
>>51707438
>>51707552
The forced memes and bingo bullshit just makes it seems like we have 2 posters in these threads who are circlejerking each other

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What we say when there are complaints about how fantasy weapons work in AoS.

>>51707500
>while another acts as game master
Perfect, no more automated creatures. Sign me up.

>>51707616
It's still better than the flame wars that get started every now and then.

>>51707648
How is it better? I'd rather have flamewars which are in line with board culture than the victim politics of the bingo. Just like we have people coming in here that we have to 'defend' our game on other boards and websites. No, we don't and the fact that people are saying we should will only confirm the prejudice that the /AoS/ community is full of pathetic whiners who are desperate for approval.

If someone makes a negative comment here the resposnes are:
> Go back to your containment thread
> THIS SHOULD GO ON THE BINGO
> etc.

It's pretty pathetic.

>>51707500
BUT DOES IT HAVE FORGE WORLD MODEL RULES YET? I WANNA USE MY DAEMONSMITH REEEEEEE

>>51707500
>No new models at all
>Requires a GM

Dropped like a bad habit.

>>51704927
That box is being discontinued though

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Just finished the Gates of Azyr Audiobook.

I didn't expect the very first book of Age of Sigmar to include both the struggles of regular humans and a humanising look into Stormcast's doubts and fears, considering those are people's two biggest complaints about the setting.

Also I got legitimately pumped when the Stormcast warrior discovered the surviving humans in the devastation of the Realm of Fire.

>You're whole...by Sigmar, you're whole...

What's your favourite book from AoS?

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Good unit or shit unit?

>>51708675
City of Secrets.

The book actually has characters with some depth to them with goals and objectives outside of dying for Sigmar.

Its also nice to see how the other minor factions of Order interact with one another.

If you ever thought that the age of sigmar setting was shallow or one note this is the book for you.

>>51708712
Use his 2 casts per turn to summon in stuff. Also warpfire projectors>warpstone braziers

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>>51707028
>That or spam tomb kings until the nerf

the nerf already dropped

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/02/07/the-generals-handbook-ii-wip-points-sneak-peek/

>>51708712
Warpfire projectors and balewind vortex =keks for days

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>>51708855
>Did you just snipe my general from all the way across the board?

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>>51708855
Thank you for this information

>>51708712
He's very beefy and can reliably present a solution to most problems (even if said solution is more often than not the warpflame projectors+Scorch+Arcane Bolt)

>>51708845
It's still a preview, so the actual Nerf is postponed until the GHB comes out.

>>51708938
What unit do i need to watch out for in case of counters?

>>51708855
hes a behemoth right? So can't go on a vortex.

>>51708845
I mean, they are still completely viable

>>51708855
Warpfire Projectors are not spells. No range increase there.

>>51708845
Necropolis Knights still do absurd damage, TK will still be tier 1

>>51708975
He's a wizard, the vortex works as long as the caster is a wizard

>>51708855
Balewind Vortex doesn't increase the range of shooting attacks you moron

>>51708975
Behemoths can use the Vortex
Monsters cannot

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>>51705652
>I heard Skryre is strong
>the other clans are weak.

DELTE THIS

>>51708955
Anything that can deliver a lot of pain at range as well as powerful&fast units. Thanquol usually wants a screen of disposable Clanrats to prevent anything moving into melee with him.

>>51708985
I know. But still with arcane bolt and scorch

>>51709002
I know it doesn't affect that. The warpfire is just the best choice regardless. You've still got two spells with good range.

1000 points Gutbusters. Thoughts?

Tyrant with great club
Butcher with Cauldron
6 Ogors
3 Ironguts
3 Leadbelchers
Gorger

Too mix and match?

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We /ratmen/ now

Skavenfags unite

we must discuss the GHB2 and possible threats to the children of the horned rat.

Firstly, i think it's time we admit our Stormfiends are going to get smacked with the nerf bat. I'd say expect no less than a 340 pts increase.

Other thoughts?

>Hellpit's reduced by at least 40-80 pts
>Possible Grey-seer drop (since they kind of suck)
>Throt / Skweel rebalance. Skweel drops to 80, Throt rises to 120. thoughts?

I feel Moulder / Eshin shall be made more viable.

Monks / Stormvermin perfect balanced yes-yes?

>>51709026
kk, are stormfiends good or bad?

>>51709156
Very good. Alongside Stormvermin probably the best unit Skaven have.

>>51709150
One of my friends claimed that skaven suck is he trying to keep me away from the master race?
(He is a massive tzeentch fag, you know any good counters?)

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>>51709150
Yes yes. Monk-rats are good good. Censer things need big buff-boost.

>>51709150
Stormfiend increase is inavoidable, yeah. Stormvermin probably as well, though only by 20-40.

Pestilens seems pretty spot on, bar maybe the Plague Censer Bearers.
Skyre will see increases on many things, I'd wager.
Eshin is shit and will remain shit until they get actual worthwhile units, no amount of point reshuffling will change that.
Verminus is mostly all right.
Nobody gives a shit about Moulder.

>>51709263
Pestilens needs allegiance stuff

>>51709282
All the old battletomes do.
Well, Ironjawz don't, the destruction trait is pretty much perfect on them, but everybody else does.

>>51709217
He is no doubt jealous of our Rat-swag

Let's see, Tzeentch seems to make use of shooting and magic from what i have seen of the new desciples force. Now thanks to power-creep shit will always be an uphill battle as they just came out.

I want to suggest a Verminlord Deceiver as all the missile fire will be hitting him on 5's and 6's but i am aware of the potential for mortal wounds coming his way. That said, scoring an early charge and stabbing the Lord of change to death with his -3 rend would be fun.

Tzaangor, horrors and cultists seem to group up nicely. Plagueclaws and wind-mortars shall tear them apart, that i know for certain.

>>51709308
Kickass, another guy i know plays goblins and my brother is intrested in a treefag army any more tips o' wise ratman

>>51709346
Plagueclaws for the gobbos

>>51709346
>>51707372
Here is my pestilens list

im starting a nurgle rotbringers army , my question, since i have to have at least 2 battleline units in a 1k pts game, can i mix and use a unit of putrid blightkings as one and a unit of warriors of chaos( with mark of nurgle) as the other one or do i have to use 2 units of the same?

I'm new to AOS so I had a question for my Death allegiance.

Does that ability to ignore a wound or mortal wound on a 6 apply after or instead of a normal save?

I'm a 40k convert so my idiot brain needs to know if I treat it like an invuln or feel no pain.

I watched a batrep but the guy only ever remembered it when his save was cancelled out by high rend attacks.

>>51709384
ty, i have one more question, ratling gun or nah?

>>51709397
>Does that ability to ignore a wound or mortal wound on a 6 apply after or instead of a normal save?

After. You roll PER wound on this one. A save is to roll PER wounding hit, where on each wounding hit you might be dealt x amount of damage. With your ability, you can make a 2nd roll PER wound dealt to see if you can mitigate those.

>>51709397

For example:

Somebody attacks you with 3 attacks. 2 of which hits (success on to hit roll), and 1 of which wounds (success on to wound roll).

Now, you make your save, rolling only 1 die for that to wound roll. You fail! Damn!

Your foe checks the damage dealt, oh shit, it does 3 wounds.

No fear! You take 3 dice and roll them, getting 2 6s. Ah ha! You only take 1 wound then.

>>51709397
let's say guy with 5 attacks and damage 2 and no rend attack your dudes
5 attacks, he gets 4 hits, gets 3 wounds. you then roll 3 save rolls, pass 1 fail 2, damage becomes 4 (2 wounds at 2 damage), you would then roll 4 dice trying to get 6+s

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>>51707372
I'd always give the crown to the Furnace so it can still place the fearless onto something even when the Verminlord gets taken down.

Looks good, i always rate the Pesti-clawpack. But personally i would disband the 4th Monk unit add 10 to each existing unit, or consider saving a min 10 man unit for objective holding, i like to run 30-monk units when i can.

Befoul a terrain piece in the center of the board and march one unit into it, mark the other two units surrounding it with Inspiring and you will maintain your leadership.

Make sure Skrolk is the priest leading the clawpack. If he ever rolls a 6 to wound the Staff will deal a mighty 6 wounds in damage. I once killed a Magma dragon with him alone after casting Wither and charging in.

>>51709150
Storm fiends will definitely eat a price increase unfortunately.

I hope vermin drop a bit in price, just 20 points or so, theyre a great unit but so incredibly squishy.

Skavenslaves should be cheaper, currently there is no point in taking them.

Clanrats are fine

Verminlords could use a small price drop, they really aren't that impressive for what they do (corrupted is fine)

>>51709385
Yeah. You can. At 1k I like

Lord of plagues with lord of war and runeblade

Chaos sorcerer lord with runestaff

Blightkings x5

Blightkings x5

Chaos knights (nurgle) x5

Chaos knights (nurgle) x5

>>51709415
Can be good for verminus

>>51709481
>Verminlords could use a small price drop, they really aren't that impressive for what they do (corrupted is fine)

The corruptor is the worst, and granted the cheapest but he cannot fight his way out of any combat that involves a 4+ save or more. This isn't the same for the others

If Pestilens gain relic items that grant rend, even on 6's this would change, but currently i think all Verminlords should drop by 30 or 40 points.

I forget slaves exist, but they should really toss them into Verminus or Possibly Moulder? either way, they could afford to drop

>>51709517
kk thanks

>>51709499
Oh I like this list. Less models to paint. Less thing to fuck up.

thank you very much

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>>51709481
>>51709150

>Mfw i just finished my Stormfiends

Time to squeak in a few cheap wins with these fuckers before the nerfhammer drops!

>>51709472
Don't got enough points to distribute extra unit o monks evenly

Anyone here tell me if Flesh Eater Courts are good? I'm looking to do a death army and I'm not sure what I should run.

>>51709634
Take out extra priest and add another 10?

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I'm painting up some Skyfires, damn they're nice models but it's taking me ages to do them.

Anyone used them in a game? Anything I should take with them apart from a shaman?

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>>51709652
HIIIGHWAAAY TOOO THEEEE BONE ZONE

>>51709536
I don't mind the corruptors price because of how well he works in a pestilence list. He is a decent wizard with a great command ability, though I agree his melee could use a buff.

I think the biggest skaven buff that needs to come is a way to incorporate various clans without breaking allegiance.

I should be able to take clanrats while keeping storm fiends as battle line type deal, however I would say that units taken as auxiliaries (such as the afore mentioned clanrats) incur a points tax. So it would be 80 pts for clanrat instead of 60

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>>51709809
>BONE ZONE
>>51709652

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>>51708845

>>51709932
Kek

>>51709852
Indeed

There should be a 'Skaven mercenary' faction where you can take certain Skaven units in your skaven army without breaking the battle-line, but they all cost 20 pts more.

The units could be like

>Gutter-Runners/Assassins
>Censer Bearers
>Giant Rats + Rat ogres
>Slaves / Clanrats
>All weapon-teams
>Grey seers

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>>51709397
Damn, only took till lunch break for bingo!

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>>51709981
Gg. Same time next thread?

BONE MY ZONE DADDY

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>>51710043

>>51704617
So the freeguilds people, are many of them reincarnations of the Old World folks? can we expect them to look like those living in the Empire? do they know about the Empire? does Karl Franz remember? Do the Freeguild folk live in other areas of Azyr that look more like the world from the before time?

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>>51710090

>>51705121
See all you haters? PRACTICE GETS YOU BETTER

>>51710107
Not reincarnations, descendants of the survivors of the End Times. countless thousands of years past since the Old World was destroyed. It's many many generations later.

>>51710107
- There are no reincarnations. The dead remain dead; most of them are even beyond Nagash's grasp.
- They contain people of all types. Moustaches are popular, though.
- Some gods or powerful spirits probably remember the Empire, I guess. Sigmar most likely does. A few scholars might have heard or read of it.
- Karz Franz is turbo-dead. Can't be much deader than him.
- The people that fled to Azyr before the gates closed were from all over the realms, but even at that time the End Times had happened aeons ago. If anybody does, it's probably coincidence.

>>51709981
Does this mean you'll stop posting?

So apparently the guy from table top solutions says his resins are better than GW's plastics. Guy makes "tomb kings" and wondered whether or not someone had tried them. Price seems high but if it's "that" good I may be tempted to buy it.

>>51710265
Whats crazy to think about is how despite all this shit you got faggots like Mannfred actually still alive throughout these countless generations

>>51710345
Well, Mannfred is Nagash's personal punching bag. You can bet your ass the lord of the dead made every move to ensure he could make Mannfred miserable for all eternity.

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>>51710458
>Mannfred survives
>Badass Settra and Tomb Kings are missing, save for pic related

>>51706586
I didn't say "AoS miniatures are uncreative" just that modern GW is.

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thoughts on this list?

>>51710987
Drop the censers. See >>51707372

>>51710987
Censers really suck. you might as well drop one unit, and take the plaguesmog formation if you insist on fielding them to get more use, and more importantly strengthen the furnace

>>51705514
>Boltstorm pistol

they arent even fucking trying anymore

>>51710987
Censer bearers do suck unfortunately. I'd run the monks with dual swords because the RE roll is amazing, thought you might have to drop each unit to 20 if you mind having some models not in range. Though I agree here
>>51711136
Since the options are limited (more monks is always viable) I'd run the plaguesmog as well, you get more out of it than another unit of censers

>>51711286
>>51711136
>>51711121

thanks for the help famalams.

personally i think its better to have bigger units (and thus starves) since u barely want more than 1 plague monk unit in combat at once since ure gonna want them to attack first right?

i feel like if u have two units then 1 if them will get crushed before you can attack with them.

>>51711335
>i feel like if u have two units then 1 if them will get crushed before you can attack with them.

In these scenarios you want to rely on Rabid Frenzy to save you

Charge with multiple units, activate the one that doesn't have frenzy, attack. then the unit with it is slaughtered, then roll each monk's deathblow on a 6, then roll each dead monk's free pile in + attack to regain your foothold

And i can't stress enough how useful 30-man Monk units with foetid blades are. some monks will always die on the march forward, but with 30 you keep the 20+ bravery bonus longer and then 1+ for being near a furnace, Bravery 8 is nice to have.

Foetid blades are the way to go, that reroll cannot be denied it's too amazing. combine it with bless with filth when you feel safe to go all out and also Wither + Priests one use book for dealing heavy damage. Staves just don't make up for this despite their range advantage

>>51711335
Monks arent about surviving. They are about deleting one thing on the board that they charge. 20 monks with swords that charged with corrupted buff (I'm going to exclude any banners) will make 80 attacks at 4/4 rerolling failed hits .

Averages between 14-16 wounds against a 4 save

30 monks with staves ( same buffs ) average

Average between 9-10 wounds against a 4+.

>>51711418

thanks mate this helped alot, somehow i overlooked rabid frenzy

I'm thinking about adding Beastmen to my Khorne Bloodbound army. I know they don't have keyword synergy with it besides Chaos, but I like the idea of having wild beast-freaks join my units.

Can anyone tell me how the following units are? Cygor, Razorgors, Bestigors, Beastlord, Khazrak. Those are the five aesthetically and rulewise who I think would be fun to add.

>>51711585

there is a keyword khorne beastman formation but it has no points

>>51711614
Yeah it's a big one with 3 units of minotaurs and 3 ghorgons, if I remember correctly.

>>51711585

just run them as tzaangors but use the models u like

>>51711712
I actually like the Bestigor rules for a Khorne army.

>>51711614
A 'historical' battalion and as such without points, much to the chargrin of beastmen players everywhere, same as the Steelburner Pack for Fyreslayers.

So blade monks in 30s or 20s?

>>51712098
1" range so I'd say 20s. With 30 more than most of them won't be able to attack with 1" weapon range.

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>>51709150
>>51709249
>>51709308
>>51709346
>>51709481

OC do not take-steal!

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what the fuck did you just fucking say about sigmar you little bitch? ill have you know i graduated top of my class in the warrior chamber. I have over 300 confirmed kills and im trained in sylvaneth warfare

>>51712440
>That shitty white lightning bolt

looks like it was painted on the screen with one weak layer of celestra grey

>>51712279
What do Skaven even do in their freetime?

>>51712823

dig tunnels or betray each other

Since all the Skaven talk, how should I start a Skaven army?

>>51712823
Shitpost on 4Clan

>>51712904
Really depends on which clan you like best. Pestilens has a real box, but moulder stuff can be very cheap on ebay

>>51712957
Getting that pestilens box is a must for me. Any idea on what I should get after that?

>>51712986
If you're going to do Pestilens you might as well buy another one, and then a Verminlord.

Convert each grey seer you get into a priest, place one on the furnace, and place one on foot. Consider picking up Skrolk's model, he's useful.

>no tomb kings
>no aelves

I want to start AoS but I'm afraid to buy any aelves before the release.

>>51712440

imagination vs reality >>51702303

Can someone link the download to the AOS28 rules? I tried to download them off the falls thread kinks but my phone wasn't finding any Downloads

I'm looking to start a new army after finishing my Stormcast for now. Sell me your faction, /aosg/.

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>>51713430
Skaven SKREEEEEEEEEE DIG-DIG! KILL KILL THE STORM THINGS AND TREE THINGS. GNASH GNAW THEIR BONES. BUILD BUILD MACHINES IN NAME OF GREAT GLORIOUS HORNED HORNED ONE! SKAVEN ARE GREAT GLORIOUS MASTER-RACE!!!

>>51709981
Doing god's work Anon.

>>51713477
What's so good about Skaven then, lad?

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>>51713430
>>51713477
You no listen to tiny food. You play ogres. We be big an we be strong an we wuz kangz.

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>>51713430
Ironjaws and Orruks are simple yet open a wide range of possibilities conversion wise.

I like that their apparent comic relief and seemingly superficial side doesn't hamper them that much. The tidbits about Gorkamorka and Sigmar make them look like bros and consequently, the Orks are always eager to fight Stormcasts, not because they want to destroy them, but because they know it's a good fight!

Them giving no fuck about whoever they fight, and having fun defacing Archaon's statue THREE TIMES is the icing on the cake.

I'm making mine as the Iron Horde from WoD, with at least one unit representing each Clan.

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>>51713536
REEEEEEEEEEE YOU BUILD BUILD LIGHTNING SHOOTERS AND FLAMETHROWER, LIKE VIETNAM WAR-FIGHT! YOU DIG DIG UNDER ENEMY AND SPRAY WITH WARP SHARDS FROM BEHIND. YOU GET SWARM-TIDE OF MANY SICK-SICK RATS! YOU MAKE FOE-THINGS DIE DIE! AND DOOOOOOOOMWHEEEEEEEEELS!!!!!!

>>51713327
The AoS28 rules are basically the same as the Hinterlands rules but looser and they let you take behemoths. It's a 1 page addition to the main Hinterlands ruleset, just search 'tga hinterlands aos28' on google and you'll find it.

>>51713604
I was always interested in Orks... My friend is doing Iornjawz already and I don't wanna copy him. Is Greenskinz/Bonesplitterz a good combo?

>>51713659
Sorta. Bonesplittaz really like their allegiance bonuses, but they lack some things Greenskinz can provide, so you'll have to estimate if it's worth giving up relics and such for warmachines and behemoths.

>>51713659
Greenskinz have shit infantry (Orruks), while Savage Orruks are decent battleline troops in mixed Destruction and Savage Arrowboyz in Kunnin Ruks are very cute. Greenskin Boarboyz are good, and their heroes' buffs also affect Bonsplitter units (but not vice versa). Oh, and Warlords on Wyverns look good for 240 points, especiallly if you give them Battlebrews.

>>51713752
>>51713792
I thought Orruks were good since they have Choppaz. I was thinking of buying the Greenskinz starter box. Is that no longer a good investment?

>>51713812
They are the worst battleline unit available for Destruction. Savage Orruks are tougher for the same price (20 wounds vs 10, though Orruks get a rerollable 5+ if they have shields compared to the 6+ of the Savages).

>>51713878
And their reroll on saves are only in melee .

>>51713878
>>51713902
Should I hold off on the Greenskinz box then? I should have around £50 at the end of this month. Maybe I should get savage orruk boy boys and a big boss?

>>51705121
Runefang a shit. Get stormhost silver

Would I be better off running warhawks in a unit of 3 or as solos?

>>51713659
>Is Greenskinz/Bonesplitterz a good combo?
Not really. Better off going one way or the other. Bonesplitterz are pretty great. Their archers are one of the best ranged units in the game right now.

>>51714007
Other than running a Kunnin Rukk, what should I get? Normal Savage Orruks as wound blocks for my arrow boyz?

>Skaven are now five fucking factions
Why? Why did they destroy the setting to unify all the factions, only to release a billion goddamn books? This shit is difficult. $$$, I know.

>>51713951
Fuck off shill, Runefang for life baby

Bet you think Retributor gold is better than Balthazar too fucking mug

>>51714067
Well the current trend seems to be that they're merging some factions back together for a book. Keeping the factions as separate entities but releasing them in one single book. Disciples of Tzeentch has the Tzeentch Arcanites, Daemons, and a bit of Slaves to Darkness in it. The new Stormcast book also added the Extremis Chamber, and the Vanguard Chamber isn't going separate.

Can only speculate, but I'd say some armies are getting multi-faction book releases. Khorne Daemons and Mortals, same for Nurgle and Slaanesh. I can see them adding Pestilens to the Nurgle one instead of say Pestigors. I can see them merge some Death together as well, and some elven factions.

>>51714054
If you go Bonesplittaz allegiance, Big Stabbas for damage, Boarboyz for speed. And some wizards to use all those nice allegiance spells.

>>51714083
Not him but I would argue that where Runefang and Stormhost are basically the same color, with Stormhost being just easier to work with and a wee bit shinier, the new Gold is actual gold, shiny, not the dirty gold/bronze look you get with Balthasar Gold, even more so with a wash of Agrax.

For examples, I'd use the new gold for Custodes, but not Balthasar, whereas I wouldn't do the bronze trims of my IW with the new gold.

>>51713943
Greenskinz get a pretty bad rap on account of being vanilla, but I'd love to see more people playing them.

While Ironjawz and Bonesplitters have plenty going for them, Greenskinz do get chariots and different options to tailor your leadership (warbosses with Waaagh! banners, the wyvern mount etc). Also Forgeworld has a couple of sexy Orruk models.

>>51714327
I really wanted to get them but I was told they are the worst battleline troop for destruction. I ain't sure what to do.

>>51714083
Get a load of this newfag. I bet he's never even heard of Mithril Silver

>>51714499
Son i got a pot of fucking Chainmail i've been using for years, you don't even know famalam

FUCK SHITHOST SILVER. STOP SUCKING THE GEEDUBS COCK SUPPORT GOOD PAINTS

>>51714499
>>51714633
>these cucks dont use melted solder wire

>>51714720
>Not crafting your own miniatures from pure silver like Grungni intended.

>>51714949
>not using the foreskin of circumcised jews to craft your own models

>>51714988
We're talking about silver here, not gold. Go back to /pol/ you uneducated faggot and don't come back until you find out what jewish foreskin looks like.

Anyone have any good resources for MTG card sized Warscrolls?

I'm not a huge fan of using the app, and I don't want to lug around A4 sized warscrolls.

I know about this one, but I play primarily Skaven Skrye and Verminus, which isn't included on here.
http://www.ageofwargamers.com/p/age-of-sigmar-unit-cards.html

>>51710265
Is the setting purposely open/ambiguous as a way to sponsor personal creativity? as in, if I make an army of "duardin" and "aelves" I can work them into some level of the fluff? Or does GW lack creativity/haven't had enough time to destroy your young pet army in fluff-building.

>>51714633
I use Vallejo's Model Air Chainmail Silver for my steel stuff. It's friggin amazing. Just base layer of that, a coat of nuln oil, then drybrush and it looks fantastic.

>>51715102
>I can work them into some level of the fluff?

the fluff for non fire-slayer dwarves is not established yet, neither is any fluff for elves yet established.

You can make your own story, or wait for the background to be established in the next year or two.

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I'm starting Free Peoples and I'm looking for advice on using pike and shot tactics in AoS.

The State Troops Detachment seems to be perfect for creating a Pike and Shot unit: Spears with handgunners, supported by shock cavalry.

But where would halbadiers and great swords come into play? Swordsmen? Where are they in the unit? Right now I get the idea the spear are the center and the gunners are on the flanks.

So. /aosg/. I was wandering, what's the most Blitzkrieg army in AoS?

>>51715527
tons and tons of cool races and you wanna be humans...and the boring humans at that...

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How I did heads when I was starting vs how I do them now

>>51715827
In what way? Ya gotta give us a better definition than that, anon.

>>51716608
Like, whats the fastest, hard hitting but not necessarily tough army in the game?

>>51716797
Pestilens or Flesh eaters?

>>51716865
Flesh eaters are fast? I never really looked into them.

>>51716797
Beastclaw Raiders with Destruction allegience or Ironjews.

>>51716884
>ironjews
kek

>>51716884
NOT NECESSARILY TOUGH

Ie, it doesn't halve all incoming wounds you twat

>>51716797
In that case, either Slaanesh, Swifthawk Agents, Spiderfang Grots or Brayherds.

Slaanesh and SA are Sonic the Hedgehog-fast, and the SA have good range to boot, though at the expense of combat, which Slaaneshi forces are better at.

Spiderfang kinda centre around their hero units, like most small subfactions, but unlike the other all-cavalry subfactions (Orders Draconis and Serpentis, for example) they have the Destruction battle trait, which can really help boost their speed further. Plus you can't go wrong with giant spiders.

Brayherds aren't that good in comparison to Slaanesh, but if you want a fast all-infantry force, they're who you go to.

I nearly mentioned Beastclaw Raiders, but you said "not necessarily tough". Plus they're total cheese.

>>51716915
Only the Stonehorns :^) And then no 6 mortal wounds on 2+ for you.

>>51716944
Daemons of Slaanesh sound cool. Any idea where to start with £50?

What is better, Crypt Horrors or Flayers?

>>51717000
Daemonettes and Seekers, but you'll need a Keeper of Secrets. There are rumours of a new model for it to replace the absolutely shitty one they have right now (although if true, that's not going to happen anytime soon) so you could go with a Herald of Slaanesh as your army leader for now.
Just keep her with the Daemonettes and she'll help protect them.

Or you could just bite the bullet and get a Keeper of Secrets to start with and leave the Seekers for later.

>>51717123
Horrors.

>>51717155
Any reasons why?

>>51717176
Better damage. Flayers are what you use as either:
a) a bodyguard for an Infernal Courtier that can keep up with him
b) some flying units to block off charge lanes and maintain board control.

They aren't killy enough to charge forward and hope, nor are they good at harassing (their ranged attacks don't have enough range). If you want a fast, flying killmonster, get a Varghulf. It's flat better at it than them.

>>51717000
Your decision pleases the dark prince.

Pick up some 20 daemonettes (which is my recommended unit size)

Then you might want to convert yourself a nice Herold with the leftover pincers youve got

Then you want seekers and maybe an exalted chariot if you face tarpitting armies.

More daemonettes for your demonic harem

Now you should be approaching 1000 Points and are looking at big guys like a KoS or a slaanesh daemonprince

>>51702279
How would this fare?

Why is /aosg/ always so dead?

>>51718106
New thread when?

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Did anyone else think this when they saw his costume?

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what say you of this test mini?

>>51718236
I like the color scheme and most of it is dome pretty well, this is a tabletop standard yes?

The skin needs a wash, it lacks depth and looks like he is made of paper. It's alright on the girls, but his smaller amounts of skin make him seem less "alive".

I like the gold crossbow but it desperately needs highlights and something to break it up. I'd pot for silver on the bolts and ornate bits or maybe some bronze if you really want warm colors.

The base looks like vomit, I'd change the colors on it.

Add a highlight color to the bits on his tables to make them pop, same with the piece on his forehead.

Eyes if you can do them.

So far 6 or 7 out of 10

>>51718322
thanks.

The skin has 2 washes of the stuff in the top right pot in the picture so I'm good with where that's at.

Not trying to win any painting contests, just have a strong theme and a fairly simple painting plan for the remaining 29 of these.

the pic is extreme high resolution so every detail is crisp but from even a foot away a lot of your advice wouldn't even be noticeable.

>>51718870
oioi
>>51718870
why are aos generals deader than my nan
>>51718870