/swg/ - Charts and the Command Edition

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>>51683617
Damn it, GRAPHS and the command. That's what I get for not double-checking it.

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>>51683617
>missed waifu edition by 30 seconds

The Force is is a cruel misstress

>>51683655
Unacceptable.

>>51683707
...acceptable.

>>51683707
Sorry. Last thread had fallen off page 10 without anyone mentioning posting a new one, so I made one.

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>>51683912
It's cool anon I was late and my concept was arguably shit.

Ideas for library of Ossus? My players are heading there. I'm thinking for sure lightsabers and holocrons but anything else cool is appreciated

I'm thinking about adding another ship to my X-Wing collection. Should I get a K-wing or Sabine's TIE fighter?

Four Rebel TIE Fighters (Ahsoka with Stolen TIE modification) and two Prototype Pilot A-Wings with Proton Rockets.

What do you guys think?

>>51684120
What do the other TIEs have?

>>51684127
Nix, because point limit
Probably could add Trick Shot to Sabine or something. It's mostly to make a pseudo-TIE swarm with pilot abilities
Probably could nix the A-Wings to modify them

>>51684087
Ood Bnar
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Ood_Bnar

>>51684087

The Ysanna
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Ysanna

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>>51684180
>>51684205

Definitely already involved the Ysanna. Neto is a good idea though I'm more of a T'ra Saa man myself

If I want to use a Fusion Cutter in combat, what skill do I use?

>>51684361
melee

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>>51684445

>>51684087
You could use force spirits like Cay Qel-Droma or something

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>>51684486
Tott Doneeta's another good choice.

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>>51684087
Ancient Jedi armor and blades from the Force Wars, lovingly preserved in stasis fields
Staggeringly accurate translations of various pieces of epic poetry taken from across the galaxy, worth a fortune to any museum and archive
Star maps, some of which reveal long-lost hyperspace routes (also worth a fortune)
The original manuscripts for various historically/culturally significant philosophical texts
A first-edition paper copy of the earliest novel in recorded galactic history
Blueprints and other technical references for the first generation of lightsabers
Pre-Republic stone tablets covered in hieroglyphics and ciphers
The notebooks and sketches of an ancient inventor
A manuscript that appears to be written either in an extremely complicated cipher or complete nonsense, filled with illustrations and anatomical sketches of flora and fauna never before seen in the galaxy

So my party managed to commandeer a ship, the loronar E-9 explorer class armed long range scout vessel to be precise from enter the unknown.

With 4 customization hard points what should the party look for/ plan ahead for?

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>>51684472
>>51684445
Thanks.

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>>51684738
Tempt them with a great pair of gams.

>>51683617
>reading through the new Star Wars comics, get to #23
>Han and Leia are racing to the bridge of a stolen Star Destroy to decide who will be captain

Only in the Alliance

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>>51684909
Did either of them use an X-wing laser cannon to make shortcuts?

>>51684965
s a B i n r i n g

I just want to thank the Star Wars general for being the only decent place to discuss the Star Wars canon.

The Force.net is a hugbox filled with people obsessed with shipping female characters in Star Wars Rebels, and the Star Wars subreddit is a perpetual circlejerk of "obi wan movie!" and "check out my Rebellion tattoo!"

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>>51685000
You're welcome.

TheForce.net. Now there's a name I haven't heard in ages....

the true secret is to not take it seriously at all

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Can't wait for that new Obi-Wan movie, amirite?

btw KananxSabine forever

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>>51685000

It's true.
That said, check out my rebellion tattoo.

Also, do you guys think Hera and Sabine play the clam orchestra together?

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>>51685054
>KananxSabine forever

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>>51685000
>Obi-Wan movie
Space Yojimbo when

>>51684965
No, but Han knocked Leia over with a speeder, but Leia beat him by putting on an EVA suit and blasting to the bridge from the outside

>>51685078
Imagine how cool it would have been if they'd actually managed to get Mifune for Obi-wan

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>>51685078
>can't think of a plot for a session
>rip off samurai or king fu film

works every time.

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>>51685075
SabinexEzra pls go

>>51685048
Yeah TF.net i s pretty terrible now. They relentlessly praise Chuck Wendig, and when I criticized how he handled homosexual characters one of the users started asking for Chuck's email so they could tell him that he was being criticized. Not kidding.

>>51685054
>>51685068

Not bashing people with rebellion tattoos or anything, I was just giving an example of the type of content that's a constant there.

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>>51685182
we're just teasing you sempai

>>51685159
it's more
>kanan
>with anyone not hera

>>51685163
AHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>51685182

We're just shitposting bby.

Honestly, I'd be lying if I said I hadnt considered a star wars tattoo before. But you're right, its fucking nice to have a place to discuss star wars which *isnt* about all the extraneous paraphernalia like tattoos or whatever.

>>51685159
>bad ship
>clearly the only opposed are worst ship

>>/co/

>>51685229
Yep. Here's the thread: http://boards.theforce.net/threads/aftermath-life-debt-book-2-of-3-by-chuck-wendig-on-july-12-2016.50033958/page-31#post-53680533

I am the guy with the Pickelhaube avatar.

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>>51684486
>>51684546
>>51684614
>>51684205
>>51684180

As always /swg/ delivers thanks gents

>>51685163
Shoulda said "Sure, whatever, just tell him that I think he handles them in too herkily-jerkily a manner."

>>51685248
it's also nice to have a place to talk about DARK GREETINGS

>>51685394
Trioculus is absolutely gold

>>51685342
OK, going back to look at the thread I am not certain if that's why he asked for his email. However, I think it's definitely possible that was why he asked for his email, given that it was immediately after I started to criticize Wendig

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>>51685422
There should have been a Jedi Prince-themed second Holiday Special.

>>51685470
Indeed. "Darkmas", one of the most popular dark side holidays

>>51685470
Hey XWW is the /swg/ holiday special in the pastebin? I never got around to reading it during the season

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>>51685507
I don't believe so. Here's the link to it:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tSOTb8xpOzh3-40vNFyTBHPDWhd36dnJrB8P6bIB-8M/edit?usp=sharing

>>51685580
>it probably had to be all the penises

Already off to a great start

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If Rebels or other miscreants tried taking hostages, Imperial forces would most likely just shoot through the hostages to bring down their targets.
How would the Empire handle a hostage situation with people they would rather not die. (Ex: Cadre of rich people that are supporting the local Moff)

>>51685806
Counter-hostage.

"Let the Moff go, or we'll destroy the capital city from orbit."

>>51685827
Perfect, thanks.

I expect this exact scenario to happen in my upcoming AoR campaign and want to be prepared for it. I could have some ISB dudes sneaking around since my players have an unfortunate tendency of splitting up.

I had a Numenera game where somebody went off by himself after kicking a resurrected Jack the Ripper in the nuts. It did not end well, unless you're a fan of cataloged organs.

>>51685913
>AoR
Then yeah, counter-hostage.
Against EotE characters it probably might not be so useful, but Rebellion members are gonna want to preserve the civvies as best they can.
Against Jedi you've got a sure shot counterplay.

THat said, if they end up going full Saw Gerrera then they may well decide that it's for the greater good that the moff die.

Probably be worth it to build a dark mirror team of imperial security/intelligence agents who are working against the players, who can try thwart them with the sort of insane shit a PC party might pull off.
Plus then eventually when the players end up in a stand-up fight with their Imperial mirrormode, they'll feel like big damn badasses if they win.

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This seems very out-of-character for Black Krrsantan. He doesn't seem to be the type of person who would spare anybody.

>>51685961
The players are almost completely combat-oriented. I have 3 different Soldiers, 1 Hired Gun Marauder, and a Commander Instructor. My wife is playing the Commander and bought a megaphone specifically for this game, so I'm confident they won't be going Saw.
I have a Spy Infiltrator NPC with cybereyes that have been hacked and a Royal Guard that is specifically working to stop them. I like the idea of giving him a team to mirror the PCs.

>>51686089

The mirror team thing has the advantage of being a bunch of mini villains for the party individually, and then a genuinely big threat as a group.

Then the players can try and hunt down their hunters - perhaps they intercept a communique which says that the elite imperial slicer in their mirror group is gonna be going through an isolated system with little chance of reinforcements.
They can try and assassinate him, or hell, they can try and flip him.

If they get him, the mirror team might not be able to slice systems against the players even half as well, but they might get generally angrier - perhaps their numbers are bolstered, perhaps their escorts get bigger in future. You can make them a truly evolving enemy with multiple 'heads' for the players to struggle against, full blown nemesis squad.

>>51685580
It's the middle of the night and I burst out laughing at Trioculone

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>>51685100
Woulda been pretty rad, desu, though Jedi would've been way more samurai-oriented in peoples imagination, which could've badly influenced the variety of the EU that came afterwards. Or maybe I worry too much

But still, Mifune!

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>>51686486
>>51685100

Well, this is /tg/. You can make your samurai Jedi dreams come true. Canon's pretty malleable.

>>51686618
So what you're telling me... is that I can create a Star Wars universe where only the Holiday Special, the Kinect Star Wars video game, and Season 3, Episode 8 of The Clone Wars are canon?

Oh goodness, I've been waiting for this moment my whole life.

Also, I'd like to take a moment to point out that this:
>>51680085
says "boobs."

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>>51687079
Well, yes. You always could.

I would really like to hear your thoughts on what the galaxy would look like in that case, but it's as valid a choice as any other.

You need to find players though...

>>51687155
Well, Leia would obviously lead the Rebellion of Song, and there would be dance battles between the Empire and the Rebel soldiers.

And what do you win from these dance battles, pray tell? Expensive, luxurious fruit for your prissy droid.

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>>51687178
So the central conflict of the story isn't Good vs. Evil or Light vs. Dark, but Good at Dancing vs. Less Good at Dancing?

I mean, you have to infer things from the materials you're given, and you've picked some reeeeeally weird materials.

>>51687178
>>51687209
So it's Auralnauts' Jedi parties run wild

>>51687209
Naw, they still have ideologies. They just use dance to solve conflict, like in Footloose.

>>51687384
Kinda.

Is trying to attack in a lethal manner on reflex and/or in a complete void of thought (not emotion, thought, ie without making the conscious choice to strike) a darkside/conflict worthy act? My friend is trying to argue that it's not because it's an action without intent, emotion or motive and therefore is antithetical to the dark, but I think that since the Lights nature is to never attack except as a last resort and/or for a righteous purpose, if you commit an act of violence that has no purpose because it didn't have any reason or consciousness behind it must be dark. If you do violence, especially violence which is potentially lethal, in a total vacuum of meaning because you're totally unconscious of it, then you have surrendered control in the hopes of getting a positive outcome with no regard given for potential harm to innocents that could occur because of your act. That screams dark to me. Does my logic track?

>>51687781
>I accidentally murdered someone
>oh well can't be helped

does that sound even remotely Jedi?
Even if they don't go dark side for it threshold damn well be embroiled in some serious soul searching and internal conflict

>>51685806
Send in Storm Commandos.
Check out the short story Omega Squad - Targets by Karen Traviss for ideas. It is about Omega Squad being called in to bust a hostage situation at coruscant's main spaceport.

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BUT WHAT ABOUT TRICLOPS?

What sort of stats should I give an AT-DP walker in EoTE?

In an upcoming session, the party will fall into a trap set by a Hutt (who they effectively stole from in the past, but all forgot about). The Hutt will have sold the party out to the Empire, who will be lying in wait with a substantial number of Stormtroopers, with armoured support.

I looked at the statlines for the AT-PT and -ST, but they are far too heavily armed and armoured for my party to stand a chance.

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>>51687870
If he targets are VERY important, like an ISB Sector Chief and critical staff, you could use Death Troopers, too.

Sheeeeeit do I love me some Death Troopers. ...their hard, black bodies, taking long walks on the beach...

>>51688621
Maybe they just have to run away to fight another day? Heck, even hard-ass rebels gets the hell out of dodge if armored assets starts appearing on the battlefield and they have no anti-armor ordinance.

Running from a AT-DP could also be set up a cool chase scene. Maybe there's a bunch of scout troopers around for the PCs to steal bikes from? Or if they are in a city, they might cut through alleyways and/or over rooftops while the AT-DP has to stick to roads?

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>>51687553
My second greatest passion after SW are dance movies and musicals, so let's try this one for size:

STAR WARS EPISODE IV: DANCE OF THE FATES

The Galactic Senate Dance Battle is the biggest competition around. Previously, the Jedi were the hottest crew in the galaxy, but one of their greatest dancers was seduced to join their opposing crew, the Sith, with money, fame, sweeter light shows and a chance to make it big on the holonet. To make things worse for our poor Jedi, their bomb-ass synchronised pop and lock crew, the Clones, turned out to have been working for the Sith all along, just trying to get the Jedi to the final round of the Galactic Senate dance-off competition so the Sith could waste them in front of the biggest audience possible.

Destroyed, lost and dejected, the Jedi have disappeared. But some young dancers, inspired by their potent acrobatics and no-money-no-shit philosophy have formed a Rebellion against the Sith crew - now known as the Galactic Empire after a series of massive ad deals they pulled with real estate firms.

Rumour has it that one of those firms is trying to redevelop all of the land which houses Rebel crews into luxury condominiums, and is trying to buy out the Galactic Senate dance competition in order to shut it down and finish the Galactic dance-offs, so the Imperials will have won FOREVER!

A new hope exists though - a sweet, but reluctant dancer called Moose Skywalker. A man who just wants to be an electrical engineer, but his dynamic dance moves peg him as the heir to the Jedi. Can the Rebels dance their way to freedom, uncovering the lost moves of the Jedi and restoring peace and balance to the galactic dance scene?

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>>51688916
(Cont.)
Some general references/ideas to make this campier and dancier:

Biggs was a scholarship student at the Imperial Institute for the Arts, but he couldn't hack the regimented choreography of the Imperials - it looked great, but it had no soul. He found himself defecting to the Rebels, becoming one of their top frontmen in the dance battles to follow.

Saw Guerrera was a competitor in the last Galactic Senate dance off - when they faced off against the Seperatists, a loose affiliation of rogue crews who were dissatisfied with the rues of the competition - where they felt the judges were overly sympathetic to certain crews over others.
(These feelings particularly increased after the famous dance battle of Naboo, where the Senate ruled that a last minute crew addition of a young ANakin Skywalker to the Naboo side was perfectly legal, but that co-ordinating the most synchronised robot using a central command tower was cheating, and the Trade Federation crew were disqualified)
Saw has grown jaded over the years since the Sith's victory. Once a member of the Rebel Alliance, he now runs his own crew, which aims to change the way people think about the Imperials by direct action. His flash mobs, dance protests and integrated street art installations are the stuff of legends - they move wth impressive displays of dance before fading back into the public, unseen and unnoticed.

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>>51689062
(Cont., last one)
Also, a clone trooper (as played by Tia Maipi) from the last Dance off, so I'm not/ just/ dropping Step Up.
The Seperatists totally had a problem with the Jedi crew getting around the 'No central command tower robot choreography' rule by using identical clone warriors trained from birth to co-ordinate their movements. That shit is not fire. The Sith crew, led by Dooku, telling the Seperatists about the clones is what caused the Seperatist crews to enter the last dance off in the first place.

>>51688794

Good shout on forcing the players up onto the rooftops. That'll give me opportunities to do throw in some more interesting skill checks as well.

>>51683617
So, /swg/ what do you like the most about Legacy? I think it was a bit ehh.

>>51690148
What was the legality of sending padawans on combat missions if they are under 18? Technically wouldn't that be a child soldier?

>>51690154
uggghghhhh

>>51690154
This never really came up so I assume it was perfectly on the level.

>>51687866
>>51687781
That's bullshit. The only assured thing that has been linked to darkside is the use of emotions specifically intense emotions to fuel your force powers. Nothing more and nothing less.

>>51687781
I think the logic is one of intent...
Inducing something like a sniper's void I'd argue would be actually pretty dark side, action-wise, because you go into the scenario going "Well, I'm gonna kill a dude, so I guess I'd better try to just turn off all my emotional receptors to it." There is a conscious action to unfeel which distinguishes it from the light side action of accepting that you are doing an awful thing by destroying another life - even if that life is evil - and processing it.

On the other hand, to try and argue that an animal catching and eating its prey is a dark side act would be recognised as a bit silly by everyone here, I'd think. So the kind of scenario where a reflexive action occurs and deals undue harm to an unintended victim (to take a silly example... say Wham reflexively attacking whoever is in his shadow in JoJo's) probably wouldn't be dark side in itself, though you'd have to consider the motives behind an individual learning such a technique in the first place (Sounds like one that would reasonably be motivated by fear or anger)

>>51685159
SabinexLuke reporting

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>>51690681
>Mandalorian
>Falling in love with anything other than their weapons, armor, or starship

>>51690872
Who said anything about love?

>>51690872
How about themselves?

>>51690154
What is the legality of using genetically altered, rapid-aging 12 year old clones to fight wars they have been brain washed to believe in? Is that child soldiering or not?

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>>51687870
>>51688772
storm commandos are better anon

>>51691172
Why commandos at all? Stormtroopers are already elite troops, seperate from regular Imperial Army. Trained on only a few places, namley Carida and Centax Moon.

>>51690148
Are you talking about the comic series?

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>>51683617
Hey /SWG/ I have a new plan for a RPG
> Four players
> Set 19 BBY
> AOR / EOTE / F&D mix
> Everybody starts off as Imperial stormtroopers
>No names, just generic stats of a storm trooper ( From the book) and a designation
> If their character dies they just pick a new designation and keep playing with the same trooper states
> Wear down their unit over the course of the first game
> Survivors and officers thrown into conflict after conflict
> Finally the last few survivors are pulled off the line
> Sent for R&R
> GM (Me) rolls a few dice from each players sheet. Those survivors are chosen for "extensive combat training"
> Send Party to Carida
> Next couple of sessions turns into SEAL training hell (Work outs, push ups, night training and fighting)
> Finally they graduate and become STORM COMMANDOS

> Real fun begins
> Get assigned dangerous missions throughout the galaxy
> CUE REPUBLIC COMMANDO type missions

> Any time a commando dies they could pull from the list of survivors they have "gone through training with" and pull them in as new PCs


Could this be fun?

>>51687870
>>51688772

I have to admit, Storm Commandos (or if you want, Katarn-equipped Imperial Commandos) are best suited to the role.
Death Troopers serve more of a bodyguard role for high-level targets.
Though I guess now that I say that, they should be the first responders depending on the target.

>>51691255
Could be, eventually, if the intro doesn't kill it before it even begins. Playing a generic stormie without the least shred of individualization would kill my interest after a few sessions, if not amazingly done.

>>51690148
The comic series? Probably the Fel Empire and Space Stannis as the head of it. An empire about actual order and security rather than being puppets of some high Sith/Dark Side person is the perfect government for the Star Wars Universe.

>>51691327
thinking only 1 session of that anon. After that session they would pick a designation of their choice from the list of survivors and fill out their own stats

>>51691472
It's a shame that Roan Fel was dealt such a bad hand. He had a lot of potential to be a really cool character if he had more page time and been written more consistently.

>>51691190
because storm troopers are noisy and loud. If you want a real job done right. Send in the Storm Commandos

>>51691514
I'd say Legacy was a great setting, with initially a great story, even good stuff for shipfags (I fap to Pellaeons and Imperiouses) HOWEVER it somehow had not one but TWO rushed endings as circumstances of first some Dark Horse contract and then the Disney buyout.

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>>51691255
you should probably add some human elements to the characters make them relate able and some camaraderie for everything to make it mean something when they die and make them maybe get attachment to a character so they don't just go "well fuck it i got 500 more troopers lets just human wave this guy", it should also feel really good getting to commando status on a character you've pulled through hell and back surviving shit expendable troop status.
Just like when you lose your buddy in Republic Commando you got to know your team you actually got to care and learn each ones personality.
You could even go to the point of giving them team work checks and if some one died and pulled the new guy he would get a penalty because they resent him even if its on a subconscious level because hes trying to replace their lost battle buddy and are a constant reminder they could die too.

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>>51690148

If you're talking about the comic series, I love the main arcs like the first one and Claws of the Dragon. Basically anything written by Ostrander and Duursema. I didn't like the side-stories too much, except maybe "Noob".
Overall I do like the concept and personally think it was one of the better overall entries into the Star Wars canon, simply for being unique yet a lot of arcs still having that classic "Star Wars" feel. I kinda want to see some stuff from it again in the NuCanon (pic related is Darth Talon concept art from TFA)

>>51690148
Comic series or novel series?
I never read the comic, but the novels were tryhard garbage that I'm convinced were only written for the purpose of killing Jacen.

>>51691569
Damn that's all true anon. I think that'll mostly be on their end but I will be encouraging them

>>51691255
>>51691472
Yeah, that'd make it really fucking hard to get invested into the character.

>>51691664
and Mara Jade, and Pellaeon, and Lumiya, and...

>>51691706
It was Game of Thrones before Game of Thrones.

>>51691539
>noisy and loud
Of course they are, they are shock troops. They storm ships and beaches alike, and drag out rebel assholes into the street and spray their corpse with e-11 fire so that you and all your other rebel asshole friends get the idea to STOP KIDNAPPING people the empire cares about.

What the hell else is a hostage situation if not a public statement, and what else is the point if not to make a counter statement. Send in the SWAT and let em look badass doing it. With storm commandos, you cant let them be filmed/seen because it ruins their opsec and mystical image. Fuck that noise, go loud and show you care, save the storm commandos for when you want some particular asshole to disappear, without a trace.

>>51688916
>>51689062
>>51689090

Not gonna lie, I would play the fuck out of this.

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>>51688916
10/10, Star Wars Kinect 2: Dancing All Knight when?

>>51691551
Anybody know where I can find Legacy volume 2? I read like half of it but I want to get the rest of Ania Solo's story, as much as there is one.

>>51688092
He kinda looks like Kaz from behind, in that image

>>51686051
I don't see what about that image makes you think he's sparing the guy. If you're talking about sparing the other scout troopers, even a murder addict like Black Krrsantan is allowed to act tactically.

>>51689090
>>51689062
>>51688916
Fucking brilliant.

>>51691255
FFG games aren't designed for PC recycling.

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>>51683655
How many super star destroyers could they make if they didn't try to do tarkins thing

>>51692796
Both the previous and following pages have him murdering pretty much every Imperial on Yavin IV save the ones immediately surrounding the Temple, usually in incredibly violent displays of rage and martial prowess. It was literally only that guy he didn't immediately kill on sight when given the opportunity.

>>51693564
In Legends they still had like a dozen of them, even Wedge Antilles had one.

>>51693564
Well, the Death Star was about 160 miles in diameter. Even without taking volume into account, that is a lot of fucking material being thrown into their little destructo-moon project. The number of super star destroyers they could have made would have been significant. Even more for regular star destroyers.

Going to play SAGA SW oneshot.

Any advice?

Ive put together a Vader-Emperor list. What could I spend the last three on?

Omicron Group Pilot (21)
Palpatine (8)
Ion Cannon (3)

Darth Vader (29)
TIE/x1 (0)
Advanced Targeting Computer (1)
Squad Leader (2)

Tomax Bren (24)
TIE shuttle (0)
Rebel Captive (3)
Recon Specialist (3)
Lightweight Frame (2)
Crack Shot (1)

Total (97)

>>51693916
Don't. Do D6 for a one-shot. The rules are much easier and character gen is sped up with the templates that are available in the books.

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>>51688916
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>>51689090
Delightful. Nice work, anon.

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>>51691255
I've seen similar games run with the 40k systems. The issue is that the "whittling" and "training" sections feel like filler content. They cruft you have to deal with before you get to the real plot.

FFG's system is not well suited to this type of game, as far as I can tell. Fate definitely isn't. Maybe look at the old WEG d6 system, but trim off unused rules and build some houserules?

>>51694179
concur

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>>51693916
Are you running the oneshot or playing in it?

>>51694326
>>51694179
playing it. So not my call on the system.

Any interesting builds or races to use?
We are in the Old repubblic.

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>>51694399
What era of the Old Republic? Tales of the Jedi? KotOR? TSL? SWTOR? New Sith Wars? Post-Ruusan Reformation? TPM? Clone Wars?

I need a little more specificity.

>>51694550
KotoR
That is all I know

Is there a version of Forged in Battle that isn't quite as unreadable as the current one?

>>51694602
still me, reading the rulebook now.
Fucking Ewoks are a playable race.

>>51694605

The version that you buy, disassemble, and scan.

>>51694676
Ah well, thought so.

Did FFG give up on Age of Rebellion? There's a dismaying lack of expansion for Mechanics and Spies.

>>51694710

Well, Forged in Battle only came out a few months back. Since that time, No Disintegrations has come out, and we have had the announcement of the Consular (F&D) career book. I'd say they are keeping pretty good pace, all things considered.

>>51694710

Dev cycle, doofus. They just had an adventure come out, and soldier book not too long ago - so they'll probably be announcing the new supplement shortly.

Now that No Disintegrations is out, they only have one indev supplement announced, the Consular book.

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>>51694630
Yeah, ignore that. Ewoks weren't discovered by the greater galaxy until SWTOR times, then forgotten entirely until RotJ. And were a mistake all together.

>>51694602
Have you played KotOR? If not, now is the time. It's available on smartphones now, which runs a lot better than trying to get it to work on a modern computer.

If you've played the game, have you read the Knights of the Old Republic comics that lead up to that game? They're referential but not directly necessary for understanding anything during the time period. Nonetheless, they're very good and guaranteed to give you a character idea.

Check them out here:
http://www.readcomics.tv/star-wars-knights-of-the-old-republic-2006/chapter-1/1

Some general bits of lore from that era:

Jedi are prevalent, but the Order itself is recovering from a schism that led to half the Jedi falling to the Dark Side. The ones that are left are either entrenched in power within the Jedi hierarchy already, pacifistic, paladin-level righteous good, or not particularly powerful... 'cause everyone else left to fight in the unsanctioned Mandalorian Wars.

Smugglers and scoundrels fit into every era. As do soldiers - but you're not a stormtrooper in this era, just a trooper. And if you're in the Republic military, you'll be wearing funny looking helmets. Pic related.

>>51694399
What xp?

>>51694752
I'm still traumatized from what FFG did to the 40k line so I get extremely paranoid about anything they do.

>>51694837
haven't be told yet.

>>51694835
Never got around to actualy play it... Not sure if have the time. Thanks for the tl;dr


Why the hell Wookies live to 400 years while other races die before 100?

>>51691172
What type of blaster is that on his hip? A carbine? Heavy Blaster Pistol with a full-auto mode?

>>51693564
According to new canon sources, the first Death Star cost more than 1 trillion credits to build, while legends sources put the cost of Executor around 1.1 billion credits. So you could conservatively expect to build 10 Executor-class Star Dreadnaughts for the cost of the Death Star.

Alternatively, you could build around 7,000 Imperial II-class Star Destroyers.

Personally, I'd take the ISDs every day, provided I had enough people to crew them all. That is one advantage of the Death Star, relative to its size and cost, it was surprisingly crew efficient at about 1.2 million crew members, which would crew only about 33 ISDs.

>>51694921
Just watch the cinematic cut-scenes for The Old Republic. Pretty much the only parts of that game that were done right. Should at least give you a visual feeling for everything, even though the game takes place a hundred or so years after KotOR.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuNvCOUy1Ts

I think there is another video that they made, although it was after Disney cut the canon and the devs decided to go completely crazy with everything since the game was non canon now and they could pretty much do whatever they wanted.

>>51694921
if you dunno what level, planning a build is pointless

have fun getting wrecked

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>>51694630
>Ewoks are a playable race
Got a problem with that, Wedge?

>>51694921
Because it ain't fair, kiddo. Yoda's species is long-lived, too.

Gen'dai can live thousands of years and regenerate their bodies. Anzati in Legends could live hundreds of years as well (by sucking the Force out of people. It's a long, no-longer-canon story).

There's plenty of other species with these traits, too. Roleplaying as one of these species isn't easy, since your character has had so much backstory and would tend not to be reactionary.

If you want a bit more info on the time period, a second tl;dr:

You're going to hear about Darth Revan and Darth Malak. They were Jedi (Revan and Alek, at the time) who convinced thousands of their fellow Jedi to disobey the Jedi Council and go to war with the Mandalorians (a clan-based nomadic warrior culture that was invading) to defend the Republic.

Now, the Mandalorians (the whole culture is based off of Boba Fett, even though he's... apparently not one in canon any longer.) are doing some pretty awful stuff. Genocides, attacking civilians and combatants alike, et cetera. So Revan is kinda a savior. Or he would be, if he hadn't came across something in unknown space that turned him to the Dark Side. And with Revan, fell his army.

They beat the Mandalorians, but came back to the Republic as conquerors. They formed a Sith Empire and encroached upon the Mid Rim - until Revan was defeated above Taris and Malak took over. If you don't want to read KotOR spoilers, don't read these Revan had his memory wiped by the Jedi Bastila Shan, who taught him to be a Jedi all over again. The Jedi used his latent knowledge as he slowly regained his memories to track down the source of the Sith Emperor's Dark Side power base, an ancient foundry space station called the Star Forge, and Revan went on to defeat his former apprentice and win the day for the Republic.

>>51694884

Given the sheer amount of Star Wars lines FFG has in flight (X Wing, Armada, Imperial Assault, LCG, Rebellion board game, Destiny, as well as the RPGs) I am quite sure they are not facing the license being pulled/not renewed any time soon.

Quick question.

Is it intentional that most Specializations have a lot of overlap for additional Career skills with their base career? (I assume so, considering you get free points to assign to that) but it seems to quite significantly limit some Specs (an Ace/Driver effectively only has 9 career skills, for instance)

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>>51694921
>Why the hell Wookies live to 400 years while other races die before 100?

To be fair, the Cicaidamen of Zargul Four die after two years, so it's not so bad.

>>51695173
Revan then left the Republic to confront the "True Sith" that he hazily remembered were somewhere out there in the Unknown Regions.

KotOR II: The Sith Lords spoilers:

In Revan's absence, the Jedi were systematically wiped out, all except for a small handful, by three powerful home-grown Dark Jedi who took up the Sith mantle: the Sith Triumvirate. They were eventually defeated by Meetra Surik, one of the Jedi who had taken up Revan's call to fight the Mandalorians - but the only one to return to the Jedi Council for punishment when it was all over. Surik had been one of Revan's top generals until she was cut off from the Force as an instinctual response to activating a dreadful superweapon that destroyed the Mandalorian fleet once and for all.

>>51695258

I believe the overlap is somewhat intentional. It allows some specs at character creation to get certain skills up to 2 without any XP cost, allowing for a more proficient character from the start.

Also, that overlap serves a second function, as it allows a player from outside of that career to pick up the career skills necessary to do the job. An example would be a Soldier picking up the Ace specialisation, and thus being able to get those skills for cheaper.

>>51695173
>>51695306
So, all that said, some characters that would be interesting to play:

Some sort of not-super-powerful Jedi who would never had been accepted for training, had half the Jedi not run off to fight a war.

A Mandalorian who survived the Mandalorian Wars, and now sells his services as a mercenary, bounty hunter, gladiator, or other sort of violent thug.

A veteran pilot of the Mandalorian Wars who has now turned to smuggling and wants to stay away from anywhere that there's active combat.

A merchant, trader, or even... musician? from Taris - by the way, the Sith under Malak razed the surface of Taris, destroying what was once an ecumenopolis - who lost everything (his home, his family, his business, his wealth) when the Sith destroyed it. Now he has turned to crime to make ends meet.

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"Rebel base in range in 10 turns..."

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>>51695484
"This is Commander Tano! Lightning Squadron, I have point. Rey, keep the Falcon moving forward; we have to tangle with them until the transport is away!"

>>51683617
Can't we have a rogue trader game or better yet, a star citizen/eve-online esque game for star wars? This'll sell, I mena, who doesn't want to be a badass mando like Fett, or a smuggler like Han. Or rule the trade federation and start an economic recession on some planet in the outer rim.

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>>51695517
"Bandit Squadron, you tangle with the fighters. Black Squadron, we hit the bombers. All teams, give it everything you got! Black Leader, standing by!"
"Bandit Leader, standing by"

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>>51695517
My inner sperg is triggered by Rey somehow being in this battle against the first Death Star on a playmat showing the DSII.

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>>51695547
"Fighters, Rexlar Brath here. Gamma squadron has to get through and hit the transport. Leave Dameron to me.."

>>51695544
Here's an idea. So you can do many things, you can go solo and be a bountry hunter or smuggler. You can do something a bit more legal, like hauling, or something even more ilegal, like a slaver. You can control pirate groups with your friends, or possibly even Megacorps. You could challenge the empire... maybe. It'll take place in the empire era, with an expansion for the clone-wars/early empire.

>>51695587
The rebels are evacuating Bespin rather than Yavin. Ashoka Tano, Kyle Katarn, Poe Dameron, Wedge, and Rey are all fighting together. We have zero regard for canon.

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>>51695588
"shit shit shit shit SHIT SHIT SHIT"

>>51695618
WHY???????? UGHHHHHHHHH I'M DYING HELP OH GOD IT HURTS MY INNER AUTISM IT BURNS AGHHHHHHHH!!!!!H!!H!!!H!H!

>>51695638
HELPHELPHELPHELPHELP! FUCK!

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>>51695634
"Tantive IV, on station. You didn't think we'd sit out on the fun, did you boys?"

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>>51695675
"We even brought along a little hired help!"

>>51695675
I have a question? I'm a noob so can
I get a star destroyer and field it?

>>51695428
thank you.

>>51695699
The Imperial Raider is a Star Destroyer scaled down to X-Wing level. Close as you'll get without playing Armada.

>>51695699
You'll need to play Armada if Star Destroyers tickle your dick.

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>>51695618

>>51695710
You're welcome.

>>51695666
Nice trip 6s.

>>51695163

[yubbing intensifies]

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>>51695695
Fun thing: we had a speaker going the entire game, and it played the Imperial March right as my Swarm Leader TIE/Fo got five hits in against the U-Wing.

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>>51695903
Kek. Also, bring in muh hammerhead corvette.

>>51694884
>what FFG did to the 40k line
>what FFG did

They got their license pulled, sadly. I found their 40k games to be top notch, I still have a couple DH campaigns laying around.

>>51694884
Really enjoyed running their 40k games- except the spess marine one, that unfortunately sucked whole bags of dicks and was a disaster
I am suffering from the death of WH Fantasy

>>51695695
They really are some of the most spectacular mini's made for nearly any game

>>51696045

In fairness when you hit the Corvette its not exactly mini anymore

>>51696001
They got their license pulled after over two years of essentially not developing any new product, and an extraordinarily sparse release schedule for the year before *that*.

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>>51696100
>tfw I'll never see an official Heresy-era Deathwatch/Only War supplement

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>>51696099
yeah its more or less a 'model' once it gets to that point

>>51696100
>over two years

The merge with asmodee happened around that time, I believe. Definitely end of 2014.

I agree, it sucked, but I guess they didn't feel like committing before knowing what the actual situation with the IP was gonna be.

Quick rain check for my character:

Mon Calamari Commander/Commodore
Duty: Resource Acquisition
Motivation: Species Rights

XP spends:
Agility 3 (30)
Cunning 2 (20)
Presence 3 (30)
Command (5)
Commanding Presence (10)
Computers 1 (5)

Skills at +1:
Astrogation
Computers
Leadership
Perception
Ranged Light
Knowledge Education
Knowledge Outer Rim
Knowledge Warfare

Money purchases:
Light Blaster Pistol (300)
Heavy Clothing (50)
Comlink (25)
Macrobinoculars (75)
Backpack (50)

-

Did I miss anything or fuck anything up?

>>51696186

>you will never own that model

>>51696001
>top notch
Dark Heresy is a fucking mess of a system.

>>51696235
Built on the cancer that was WHFB 2ed, barely improved, made worse in almost every way by DH Ascension.

FFG started to learn how not to be fucking awful with Black Crusade, improved it marginally with Only War, and then stopped producing anything for the IP.

I am Lot's Wife levels of salt about this

>>51696235
>>51696263
Did you guys completely miss out on DH 2nd ed or something?

Alright /swg/, want to pick some brains a little here.

As kind of a thought experiment because people always complain about 100/6 for X-Wing, I'm trying to brainstorm a sort of competitive campaign for X-Wing similar to my understanding of Armada's campaign box.

I already have plenty of ideas for objective/mission cards in the vein of X-Wings missions already (but a little less focused on the specific ship packaging) and some general ideas for squad building rules (I/E if you lose a unique pilot or upgrade it's gone forever, multiple players on a "team" can't use the same unique, ideally you build your list before knowing what the mission is, and if you're crazy hardcore you need to keep the same list through the entire campaign unless you lose a ship during play, then you can replace it).

Mostly in this thought experiment phase, I'm unsure of the actual "campaign" element of the mechanics. As a fan of classic Battlefront's Galactic Conquest, I was thinking a galaxy map (for laziness sake, pulling planets from the art assets FFG has recycled for X-Wing boxes) where each team or player (including possibly Scum for 2v2/3v3, maybe Xizor gets his coup after all) picks from a certain number of "base" planets, and the game ends when you take out all other players bases, and each "turn" you move a little token - if a planet is uncontrolled you control it - if it is controlled you play a mission on it, and if the other guy's token is there maybe to play a special mission or some other rule comes in. And maybe an optional rule where each planet has a single use per campaign bonus you could spend to give some planets tactical value over others. Something which theoretically a couple of friends could bang out in an afternoon, or over the course of a couple days if they want.

How does this high-level sound?

>>51691720
A Game of Thrones was first published in the mid-90s, Anon.

>>51696213
That's a lot of XP to be spending on things that aren't characteristics, which you can't improve until you get to the bottom of your skill tree or cybernetics. Assuming you have 10 duty you could spend that to get a third point in wilpower or something.

>>51696001
They completely fucked up, basically from the moment they tried to allow crossplay between DH and RT.

>>51696289
No. 2nd was the only dark heresy I played.

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stat me, /swg/

Would I literally just be two ImpStar Deuces stacked on top of each other? Or do you think I'd have other capabilities?

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>>51698105
Looks like Lira got into Raith's private stash.

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>>51698178
I've always wondered what are those two things on boards of VSD meant for.

>>51698178
It was a proposed design by Kenner post-RotJ for a continuation of the Star Wars story in action figure form. The Annihilator would have been the flagship of the Big Bad: Atha Prime.

To save costs, they designed it using the molds they already had for their Star Destroyer toy. So it's just two of 'em stuck together.

All that said, I want to use it now, if only to see how my PCs react.

>>51698314
They were originally supposed to be wings to allow for atmospheric flight.
But with R1 showing an ISD in-atmosphere, it's made those, and Viccies as a whole, pretty redundant.

>>51697271
We have 7 players, so I can't dump Duty into 10 XP to get another characteristic to 3 with, or I would've done just as you suggested and gotten WP 3

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If this is a thing, why do we never see it on larger ships where it wouldn't disable the hyperdrive?

Why don't late model Rebel cruisers or ISDs have 'em?

Also, what do we call a smaller-sized superlaser? Is it still a superlaser? Or is it a microsuperlaser?

subsuperlaser?

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>>51698943
>why do we never see it on larger ships where it wouldn't disable the hyperdrive
You wot m8

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>>51698943
Personal canon?

It's ludicrously dangerous. It's the kind of thing that some madman builds in his garage and it works about twice before exploding. The batteries alone make it dangerous, but combining the lasers and keeping them on target is difficult. If the emitters are damaged your ship will tear itself apart or slice through your enemies. And it's used on continuous fire mode! Even the Death Star just fired for a half second or so.

>>51698980
The explanation for why that weapon did make it to the production model is that firing it fries the hyperdrive or some shit. Presumably because of the power draw.

But you could, you know, design a better system. Or put it on a bigger ship. And then you have a decalaser or picosuperlaser or whatever. Gradeventilaser.

>>51698922
7 players jesus fucking christ that will be a clusterfuck

>>51698943
composite laser

>>51699030
Our GM is a mutant hydra

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>>51699021
>put it on a bigger ship
The Empire did it twice, in 1977 and 1983, long before Rebels. Then it happened again in one version of Star Tours. Legends did it a bunch, too, as we saw with the Eclipse, the one-off Conqueror, the Eclipse II, and one of the Worldcraft ships.

In nucanon, it's probably because the toy designers haven't come up with something suitably cool-looking and marketable yet.

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>>51699021
The phrase "single reactor ignition" from Rogue One is very evocative. It implies that there's some sort of process that goes: fuel reactor -> ignite reactor -> collect energy -> fuck that's a lot of energy -> immediately use it to power the weapon before the entire station explodes -> fire weapon.

You don't want to keep that kind of energy around. You can't just store it in a battery, because the battery becomes a very dangerous bomb. Remember those exploding phone batteries? Doesn't really happen with 9-volts, because the energy contained in a phone battery is orders of magnitude higher.

Anyway, for your little B-wing, you can't pack a main reactor. You have to bring batteries (bombs), and you'll need a lot of them. Once you start discharging, you'll introduce parallel currents in any adjacent conductors. Your entire ship is pretty much one parallel conductor.

You could mount one on a Star Destroyer though...

>>51699087
>>51698980

Also since like 2001-2, whichever year AotC came out, there's been a smaller version mounted on an airspeeder.

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>>51699114
>mount one on a Star Destroyer
It already happened in Legends, and in a much more practical-looking package. Then Legends writers did it twice with a Super Star Destroyer hull.

>>51699142
The Executor had a superlaser in Shadows of the Empire.

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>>51699142
Cool, then the issue is more or less sorted.

You can't build production models because you need batteries, and batteries are bombs if they contain enough energy. You can't store them in a carrier, you need to repair them after every fight because parallel currents fuck up everything, and they can't dogfight or duel without exploding.

>>51699163
My bad. Three, then. I keep forgetting about Shadows of the Empire.

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>>51699183
Wouldn't worry about it too much. Canon is messy.

>>51698507
They help shield the racket

>>51698943
Composite-beam laser cannon, same as on the gunship bubble turrets.

>>51699163
>>51699183
I do not remember that at all.

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Speaking of laser guns...
Why did Clone Wars get rid of the ball turrets on LAAT's? That shit was the coolest.
Was it simply a budget issue?

>>51699200
>I do not remember that at all.
At the end of the book, the Executor pops up over Coruscant's horizon and fires a single superlaser blast that destroys Xizor's space station. Then Dash Rendar blows up in the flying wreckage.
Unless you beat the n64 game on Hard and see that he escaped into hyperdrive at the last second.

Would playing X-Wing at a standard 200 pts, 3 epic points value be fun? Or would it overly favor one side more than the other?

>>51699237
my guess would be budget for effects and animaton. glass plays with the lighting and you have to animate the troopers within.

I have a small, easily confused brain.

How the hell am I supposed to read the actual hardpoint cost of weapon/armor/ship ugprades wrt the submods?

>>51699976
Using basic addition or subtraction, I assume.

>>51700072
I probably missed one line somewhere in the book and it's the cause of all my ills, but the numbers by the various Modification Options, what do they mean? It can't be a hardpoint surcharge, but what is it? How many times you can make additional purchases for the upgrade to buy that particular mod option?

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>>51700132
Sorry, I'm not the guy to help you. I just come here to shitpost, push WEG D6 as an alternative, and drink beer... and I'm all out of beer.

>>51700132
So, the game distinguishes between Attachments and Modifications.

Attachments are the only things that cost hard points, and can be installed without a roll. Modifications are further additions to Attachments, providing additional benefits, but each new Modification requires an ever-increasing-in-difficulty roll. However, Modifications do not take up any extra hard points.

>>51700132
The submods cost no hardpoints, just credits and an increasing mechanics check. The mod costs the listed amount of hard points.

>>51700132
>How many times you can make additional purchases for the upgrade to buy that particular mod option?
That, yeah

So, the current game I'm running is going to be finishing up within the next 2 months or so, and me and my players are going to run Age of Rebellion. Any anons got some advice for a first time AoR GM? I've not ran with the FFG Star Wars games either so the system is somewhat new to me as well.

>>51698943
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>>51699017
I remember in the book where han solo gets stuck on kessel there was some asshole who had a twin blaster pistol where the beams converged. I think the result was a lot of erratic blasts

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>>51700305
I might have to write up Convergence Pistols for my "Blaster-Tier Weapon List" then.

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>>51671800
>>51671891
>>51671961
>>51672029

>>51700272
the dice are funky, but the system is pretty good and allows you to maintain a good tempo. For AoR try to get your players to all have a similar focus (space, intelligence, Combat, etc.)

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>>51683617

Tips for playing Human Replica Droids in the FFG system?

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>>51700305
>>51700340
Reminds me of this, except sillier.

>>51700423

What the fuck am I looking at?

>>51700401
Eh. I'm not a fan of HRDs. I get that they're a natural conclusion to droid tech and Luke's cybernetic hand looking like a real one, but I just can't get behind the idea.

If you're really going to do one, I think the best version of the idea is Michael Fassbender's character from Prometheus.

https://youtu.be/RJ7E7Qp-s-8

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>>51700466
>Eh. I'm not a fan of HRDs.

Get out

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>>51700457
A very silly firearm. IIRC, in the movie, the barrels could also swivel slightly to target people standing a little off to the side.

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>>51700401
You look like a human, but don't act like human

>Good morning, fellow organic, don't you feel the crushing ennui of cellular death this morning?

Is it just me, or is the VCX easy to bully?
I mean, I've had no problem beating it when I've faced it so far.
All you'd really need is four TIE Advanced with X1 upgrade and Accuracy corrector

It'll look like this:
Turn 1 (or whenever you get in range): attack VCX from the side. One TIE lobs an ion pulse missile at it. Accuracy Correct that for a hit. Then the other TIEs attack. They accuracy correct their shots for hits.
Defend as necessary.
Damage this round: 7
Turn 2: VCX is drifting. Follow it (being sure to stay out of primary and auxiliary firing arcs) and all TIEs Accuracy Correct
Damage this round: 8

Fire again next turn with a TIE for kill

>>51683617
Sup /swg/, I have a question.

I really like the elite paint schemes that some squads have in X-wing. I mean Gamma Squadron veterans, Royal Guards, Glaive Squadrons, etc.

I've started giving similar paint schemes to all of my ships, and I had a question.

Were there any famous squadrons of TIE Advanced or TIE Advanced Prototypes? I'd do a Royal Guard scheme, but I just did a pair of Royal Guard Strikers, so i'd prefer to avoid the red. Also, painting First Order white is a massive pain in the ass, so I'd like to not do a black/white scheme.

TLDR- are there any 'elite squadrons' with distinct paint schemes that flew TIE Advanced or TIE Advanced Prototypes?

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>>51700987
>TIE Advanced Prototypes
Prototype pilots aren't generally supposed to be anywhere near the front line, especially in a military as big and well-stocked as the Empire. Proven, disposable, mass-produced TIE/LNs are meant for the front lines, not the highly expensive, highly limited testbeds which still likely have plenty of kinks to work out before being declared field-worthy.

>TIE Advanced
Too rare. In Legends, Vader's Advanced was considered a prototype and never made it into military-scale mass production. Its design was instead used as the basis for Interceptors, Bombers, Avengers, and Defenders. The Wook's canon page also still lists the classic Advanced as a prototype.

>>51701106
so there are no cool alternative paint schemes that would be in-universe? (on the other hand, I made Saber Squadron Punishers and Royal Guard Strikers, so not like I'm super accurate)

In that case, what do you think of black plating with red solar panels (Probably green lasers too)

>>51700987

Nah, the original Advanced is a testbed, very few would have been made.

The TAP is an actual prototype - it looks like Seinar did at least one production run out of Lothal, but all of those were used as display pieces or distributed to Inquisitors it looks like. I don't think they were ever deployed in squadron force.

>>51700987
Unfortunately like >>51701106 said, the ship wasn't in common use.
That being said, the canon is in fact inconsistent about how often it was used. Despite a lot of sources treating Vader's as an experimental prototype (possibly the only one of its kind), X-Wing minis has established Tempest Squadron and Black Eight Squadron, and then there's Storm Squadron from Bestine city on Tatooine (equivalent of the middle of nowhere) being equipped with them (p.s. did Galaxies ever say that Storm Squadron had TIE Advanced's?). Other sources have also shown x1's being used sparingly, so perhaps there were other prototypes around
Unfortunately for you, none of them have different paint schemes. I guess a safe alternative would be 181st stripes (it wouldn't be entirely impossible that the 181st could get their hands on some prototypes).

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>>51701173
>>51701106
Oooor... just don't worry about canon too closely, and paint them how you'd like. Make up a reason why.

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>>51701173
Not as far as I know, but it never hurts to make up your own paint schemes. Testbeds and tech demonstrators get to have cool paint jobs, too.

>>51701173
Out of personal preference, I would outline in red and make the panels themselves black too.

Speaking of, I'm thinking about painting the base YT-1300 as the Stellar Envoy (the ROTS Falcon) Thoughts?

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>>51701279
Why go with a scheme that's already been done? Just go nuts and find something that looks good. And make sure to add more greebles.

>>51701279
Wouldn't that just be a Royal Guard scheme? I'd like to avoid doing more Royal Guard, as I already have 3 RG interceptors, 3 RG defenders, and 3 RG strikers.

I'd like the TAP's to match the /x1, as I want to have them look like a coherent squadron in epic (even if most of the time it's just Vader in 100 point games). That's why i'm thinking red panels/black body.

>>51701227
God damn those look good. I'd love to do that to my Decimator, but I don't have an airbrush.

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Why didn't Sheev foresee himself getting thrown down the shaft in the Death Star?

Coming back to X-Wing after several years break

Are scum still awful or can I play them casually without being pooped on?

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>>51701434
If you want to play up the whole testing/prototype angle, how about painting your TAPs and X1s in aggressor colors? Do them up in Rebel Red Squadron colors and say those guys were previously designated to stand in for X-wings in simulated dogfights and war games.

>>51701227
>>51701434
If anyone wants to feel inadequate about their painting skills, google 'Decimator Repaint".

I know it makes me want to try, but I don't have a decimator to fuck up.

>>51701468
He was too busy having the time of his life zapping Luke.

>>51701480
Scum are the strongest faction by far now.

They got too many wombo-combo upgrades in wave 8 and 9.

They managed to create abominations like Dengaroo (A list that's just a boss-fight against Super-Dengar), and worse.

>>51701520

Huh no kidding.

I'm not really trying to find a super netlist to beat people with but if they're not auto lose like they were before, I'm happy.

Is the Kihrax any good? It was one of my favorite privateer ships.

Actually what about the small ships after the Kihrax?

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>>51701434
I'm sorry I meant make the body and the (already black) parts of the panels black, while the panel outlines get painted red (in the pic, the black parts of the wings get painted the same black as the hull, and the blue/gray lines outlining them and the wing get painted red)

Also not to get autistic on you but technically the Red TIE Defenders aren't Royal Guard. They're Glaive Squadron/Red Star Squadron under the Countess Ryad.

We should post more TIE Advanced in general. I'd rather have more of these than TIE Avengers.

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>>51701426
Because I like the paint scheme of the ROTS Falcon

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>>51701595
Oh, well, in that case, do that.

>>51701556
Scum is weird, they have two really bad ships (Starviper and Kihraxz) but everything else that they have ranges from 'good' to 'FFG needed to playtest this more'.

Even the Kihraxz isn't unusable, but it struggles to find a role. I like Talonbane Cobra with a Cloaking device, although it is silly.

On the other hand, you could make them work with Mindlink. That being said, scum can take any nonsense, give it all Mindlink, and boom; powerful list.

I could do a ship by ship breakdown if you like of the wave 7/8/9/10 ships.

>>51701767

sure thing, I clearly have some catching up to do if you're willing.

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>>51701595
Along the same lines, I really like this one. But go with the Stellar Envoy scheme, that's more obscure.

>>51701468
he doesnt actually, literally see the future, otherwise he would be unbeatable

he is just really good at planning, and really bad at sensing non-evil thoughts

>>51701793
So wave 7-

The Kihraxz- It's an X-wing, but with an elite generic, a 1 point discount, and an Illicit instead of astromech slot. It's got all of the same problems as the X-wing, but it doesn't have pilots like Biggs, Wes or Wedge to prop it up. Sometimes known as the Crack Shot Expansion pack, as it comes with the card.

YV-666, AKA the Party Bus. This thing has 3 crew slots, and a 180 degree firing arc. due to scum crew being combined strangely (4-lom, Zuckuss, and Dengar/K4, as an example, this thing can be outfitted to absolutely eat aces alive. Not super maneuverable, although it is pretty fast.

G-1A- This is a Scum B-wing. It gave us the 4-lom and Zuckuss crew cards, which is what it is mostly remembered for. However, it does have a PS 5 elite generic, so it can be made into a very effective jousting list with Mindlink.

JumpMaster 5000- Fuck this thing. It ruined the meta, twice. First, when it was released, it came with another ordinance fix. People at first thought "oh, ordinance is good again". Then, after a week, we needed to get the Torpedo Genie to go back into the bottle. This fucker single-handedly pushed rebels out of the meta, and many types of empire lists as well. Three of these fuckers, or 2 of them and a 34 point Party Bus were scourge of the meta for months. Then, FFG released 2 separate errattas to nerf them, and they are still a viable/regional-placing list. Then, Dengaroo popped up. This list is a mean boss fight that has been described as "Like you are playing against a blue MTG deck". it's a big bitch to play against, and *the* bully list. It won the last worlds. it also heavily abuses the Zuckuss crew card. Basically, FFG was stupid when they released a cheap large base turret ship with a dial that good (White Sloop, albeit only to one side), and astro, EPT, Crew, Illicit, and 2 torp slots. Lately, Manaroo has found her home, turning even the shittiest lists great with Mindlink. Fuck Jumpmasters.

Wave 9/10 next.

>>51701793
In wave 9, the small ship was the Protectorate. It's sortof like a Scum Interceptor, but with some odd abilities. It's got Not-Carnor-Jax, but it also has Fenn Rau, a PS9 ace with a powerful ability that makes him invincible at range 1. The protectorate can't evade, has almost the exact same dial as the Interceptor (4 straight is white instead of green, instead of 3 and 5k, a 4k and 2 Talon-Roll), has 4 hull, and can target lock. It has a title that when jousting in-arc at range 1, they get an automatic evade. They have an EPT (scum only) that adds a hit when jousting at range 1. It's a really agressive interceptor.

The Lancer Pursuit Craft- A large base ship with a firing arc that can be rotated as an action. This thing is usually flown by Asajj, and is amazing at stress control and damage mitigation. It has 3 hards that are green, and is the fastest ship in the game. it's a very powerful ship, and late game with Asajj, PTL, and Latts crew, is insanely hard to kill.

Wave 10- The Quadjumper. It's a tugboat, the one that gets blown up in TFA when rey and finn think of stealing it. it's only been out for a week, but I've heard it is really strong. it has backwards moves on its dial, it has Action:give a ship at r1 in arc a tractor beam token, and decent upgrade slots.

>>51701563
I still don't understand your description.

I'll probably be doing my red-panel/black body scheme unless you explain yours to me.

>>51702038
>Asajj being alive in GCW era

I cri evertim ;_;

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>>51702111
She's alive in our hearts anon

>>51702111
>>51702139
I guess maybe you should all just TRUST ME

>>51702038
So wait, does Latts Razzi only apply once per combat?
If not, can't she be used to feed off of Dengaroo stress for guranteed evades?

>>51702055
Basically Royal Guard wings with a black body
But like everyone else said, do your own thing if you want.
You could experiment with symbology if you like miniature decals. Don't know where you'd put em on the mini though

>>51702220
Latts can use her effect every time she rolls defense dice.

So against Dengaroo, Latts+evade token is 2 assured evades.

>>51702296
I've got some old necron transfer sheets, but IDK what I could do with those.

>>51702623
Her card says "when defending"
What I want to know is if Dengaroo w/ Zuckuss gave the ship like six stresses over a game, can Latts use, say, three in a single defense roll to add the relevant evades (making the dice roll irrelevant, and possibly making the Lancer-class immortal in that case)

>>51702678
One per defense roll.

With Asajj giving the stress though and PTL, Focus+Evade+Stress is 2 evades minimum, 4 maximum, and 3.25 average, on a 10 health ship that is fast as fuck.

>>51683617
I have an idea.

All Droid party.

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>>51702725
That will go well.

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>>51702902
>One session later...

So the /r/starwarsspeculation subreddit is abuzz right now. Someone got their hands on the last Wendig Aftermath novel almost two weeks ahead of time and are posting some spoilers leading into the Sequel Trilogy.

The SSD Eclipse makes a comeback.

We're teased with Palpatine having an ancient star map from a precursor civilization leading outside the known galaxy.Rakata tech?

This stuff was kept in an "Observatory" on Jakku, and part of Palpatine's final "Contingency." This getting good.

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>>51703028
So your saying Trioculus confirmed, then?

>>51703060
A man can dream.

>>51703028

If only I trusted Wendig to write it well.

>>51703117
One can only hope that he's been replaced with a skinwalker that has actual writing skills.

>>51703139

Ah, editors.

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>>51703139
Maybe a Human Replica Droid.

>>51703028
>map from a precursor civilization leading outside the known galaxy
if this map leads to Earth I'm out!

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>>51703166
Oh god! I was wrong! It was Earth all along!
You've finally made a monkey out of meeeeeeeee!

>>51703166
It's not gonna lead to Earth. It's going to lead to Snoke and the founding of the First Order from the ashes of the Galactic Empire. Half of the following is speculation, half is from the book:

Jakku and the Observatory are likely a necessary path into the Unknown Regions, where the ancients (Rakata? Ancient Sith? Dunno yet) used to consolidate their power in isolation away from the galaxy.

As part of carrying out Palpatine's Contingency, Gallux Rax collects the remnants of the Empire and leads them to Jakku for a final battle, after which the Empire will be assumed destroyed. But instead, they used the ancient navigational tech in the Observatory to escape to the Unknown Regions.

Everything else happening on Jakku (Tekka's Church of the Force, Rey being there) isn't a coincidence. Those who tried to get through to the Unknown Regions from Jakku without the Observatory were destroyed and never heard from again. Rey was likely left there "temporarily" while her family desperately tried to get through, only to die in the attempt. That's just my assumption.

>>51703184
I love you Dr Zaius!

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>>51703330
Fighter of Dr Evazan!

Champion of the... sunkiller?

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>>51703060
>KH3oculus
It would be funny as fuck if KH3's inevitable Star Wars-themed content section turned out to be a playable retelling of Jedi Prince.

So I got a core box and some Imperials and I'm ready to play X-wing.

But my question - I'm not too familiar with the Royal Guard but why do they have their own red painted tie interceptors? The Secret Service doesn't have black F-22s, they leave that to other organizations.

>>51703467
Because it's Star Wars, not real life.

I really want more details about the cards coming with the C-ROC.

I've never really liked the Scyk that much but the idea of running a mindlink swarm with the new title is really appealing.

Anybody else thought about this or have any ideas?

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>>51691190
>Stormtroopers are already elite troops, seperate from regular Imperial Army.

>>51703356
Can I play the piano?

>>51703028
Why are they giving all this important shit to WENDIG to write? His style is obnoxious and impenetrable.

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Got a 5 crit Swarm Leader attack off last night with Omega Leader. Earned his bloodstripes.

>>51704021
Because he doesn't explain anything fully and writes everything so matter-of-fact-ly, so they can leave it nebulous just in case they need to change a detail later.

>>51704035
*Omega Ace

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Some bits and pieces for 'star wars' background music soundtracks I found after raiding best soviet wife's music collection

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0bcRCCg01I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oRbStmxvm4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCEDfZgDPS8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5poSw7tFLB4

>>51704242
You just mixed my two obsessions: Soviet Russia and Star Wars.

Good man.

What are your experiences with sending Dark Troopers at the party?

>>51705038
Well, when they first take off their helmets, the Internet explodes with racism and tries to make a scandal out of it.

But hey, Finn is cool.

>>51705113
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Dark_trooper

Final spacebump. We're going to need a new thread, soon

>>51705131
It was a joke, Anon.

>>51708387
Cut him some slack, there ARE people on /tg/ who really are just that dense.

>>51708589
Ah... yes. Spergs.

>>51701941
>>51702038
Well I'm gonna be honest with you, Scum has only one actually viable type of list and they all just abuse the jumpmaster.

That ship was so ridiculously broken that I think they intentionally didn't play test it so scum could finally chalk up a W in a major tournament.
They could nerf it a 3rd time and it still wont matter until they can take care of Manaroo.

>>51709568

And they won't take care of manaroo because nobody runs support ships which aren't unlimited range.

>>51709568
>only one actually viable type of list

Original anon was asking about casual play, he wasn't trying to win tournaments.

>>51709593
If they realized this why the fuck did they make Ahsoka's ability range 1 only?

Question: In the FFG Star Wars RPG; Exactly how much Clone Wars era vehicles and equipment or vehicles and equipment that would make sense to have been in the clone wars have been statted in official sources? So fan-made stats don't count, I'm talking stats out of core books, source books, and adventure modules?

>I know the B1 has stats in EotE core,
>the IG-100 MagnaGuard is statted in F&D core,
>the Droid Commandos and Droidikas are statted in Chronicles of the Gatekeeper,
>the tactical Droid is statted in both the Lead by Example source and the adventure module included with the AoR GM Screen,
>The AT-TE and LAAT are both in the Forged in Fire source book,
>The Consular class, and Dreadnought class are in the AoR core.
>The Victory class is in both the AoR and F&D core,
>The Munificent class is in Lead by Example,
>the Y-wing is in ALL the core books,
>The Z-95 is in the EotE core
>the V-Wing is in Stay on Target,
>The Delta-7 is in the F&D core,
... Am I missing any?