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>>51666990

Dragon Game and RoTJR Team A Session 2 starting soon/now!

so, can someone recommend some modules that are both good and free, preferably with a city or town setting

>>51667107
Is there some way to watch as a spectator?

Reposting this if only because it didn't get a reply in the last thread.
I'm gonna be building a Noble Soul Vigilante using the Crusader specialization. Is it worth trying to pursue a sword and board type character using Shield of Fury and Furious Flurry? Should I just stick to a two handed weapon and Power Attack? From the looks of it I probably don't have enough Vigilante talents to get much done regarding a build, since some of the ones that give Paladin features feel a bit mandatory.

>>51666990
>Wizards Academy
I have unreasonably high expectations just from that image, does it come anywhere near meeting them?

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>>51667182
I've only ever skimmed through it, but it has a promise

>Options for alternate ways to run campaign based on different party levels
>Plot is "Headmaster is missing, FIND HIM!"
>The dungeons and plot changes based on which teacher your DM decides kidnapped him (with different reasons and motives for each) and which teacher decides to back you guys up
>Each teacher is insane and wierd in a unique way, from a literal ferret teaching divination, a femenist succubus, a lich who is actively planning world domination, and an adorable motherly yet out of touch with mortals golem. and many more!
>Also acts as the unnoficial SoP Bestiary built right in, with wierd things like pic related.
>Is mostly built around, and with the assumption, that everyone in the party is some kind of Spherecaster

>>51667298
>the gazebo

I really wish people would let that shitty joke die

>>51667115
Free as in Yarr-Harr-Fiddle-De-Dee-Being-A-Shackle-Is-Alright-To-Be free or free as given by paizo for free?

What god would follow someone who thrives on the hunt and tricking people?

>>51667517
Norgerber

>>51667419
actually free, either by paizo or fan made

>>51667410
What's wrong with the gazebo?

>>51667298
>a literal ferret teaching divination

Hey Yuuno Scrya.

>>51667719
IT'S A FUCKING GAZEBO, ALEX

>>51667581
http://paizo.com/pathfinder/modules/freeRPGDay
here's the list of the free stuff they have. We Be Goblins are fun.

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>>51667740
who?

>>51666990
>3PP adventures

Do our own games count?

>>51667865
Depends. For how many parties do you run a single campaign for?

>>51667865
Yes, go ahead and share

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>>51667853
>>51667740
And here is the Ferret's stats.

Now, who else wants to fight the CR 20 Caster Weasel?

Who's gonna be the pirates?
http://www.strawpoll.me/12312199


https://app.roll20.net/forum/post/4541370/characters-for-the-crew

time for autism but you posted it, I looked at it, so

>>51667326
>https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/67490/fookin-sky-pirates
>Alex B
It's shit. It didn't have to be, but it is.
>Mr. Nobody
See above.
>Sirius DC
Why is the monkey not your character?
>Jaedlyn
Get the fuck out.
>T.K.
The way the backstory opens IMMEDIATELY prompts a "no" but I know nothing about the class this is and still find it interesting vis-a-vis being a sky pirate. I'd consider this one if the bio wasn't so boring.
>Dom d
Highly likely to be completely insufferable character(s). It's a fun way to play a gestalt. If I knew the player was good this makes the shortlist.
>Ikiryo
This one is good.
>Conner W.
I don't care.
>CelestialDoggie
Get this guy to play the other guy's monkey.
>Slowcogs
Hey, someone DID make the monkey! This makes the shortlist.
>DawnofHope2012
Dawn of Nope 2017
>The Yellow King
This character should have died when he was pushed overboard. You need like one conventional guy but all of them so far have been boring.
>Wyvernrider
10/10 best concept yet.
>Akodo Rokku
See the twins one. I have to know you can play this without being really irritating + it's unoriginal so only considered if a slot is free.
>Nanashidesu
A boring weird character is much worse than a boring normal one.
>Fragskull
Vaguely interested in the mechanics of dodging sunlight as a sky pirate, but eh. Wouldfuck/10 Wouldprobablynotplaywith/10
>akael
Eat the fucking bullet. This is entirely on the player and not the concept though.
>Scratchyan
Shortlisted.
>Mlems
I'm not mad about it and I hate the specific way these bullet points are written but this one probably fits in most possible groups so far. Might get a slot.
>AlienError
Again 10/10 concept arguably even superior to Wyvernrider's.
>TITAN
WHERE'S THE MEAT?!

How many players does this game need?

>>51667888
>>51667890
I have run the same game for a dozen or so parties over the years. It was born out of being an officer in a college TTRPG club and needing to be able to run a game in my sleep.

It was called The Fall of Otston. Players routed around a trade town on the frontier, working for a practically homeless wizard named Narder Guiles and trying to piece together the strange happenings in the town. I used to have a map with every building having at least a note, but I think it disappeared with the death of my old computer.

It ended up being several different occurrences all pointing to a sort of 'quickening' around the town as unlikely events were pushed forward by fate. A sort of truncation of future misfortunes forced on the town in an 8 month period.

>>51668012
Look, you reposted it. See >>51668027

So since the first game is going well, I'm thinking about running a second spheres of might playtest game.

>3rd level
>25 point buy
>Background skills
>1p + SoM (to keep results as balanced as possible)
>Free power attack/deadly aim/combat expertise/vital strike

Anyone interested?

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How do I pic related, /pfg/?

http://overwatch.wikia.com/wiki/Hanzo

>>51668047
I am so starved for games right now I would play anything. Heck I'm desperate enough to join an ERP game if they don't require me to participate in the E.

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>>51667853
This fuccboi. He is a bibliophile familiar ferret of a powerful wizard and comes from a family of diviners.

Going to start running Rise of the Runelords tomorrow and haven't finished reading the whole path.

Anything I need to read up on beyond the first adventure besides the appendices?

>>51668080
I know next to nothing about Overwatch, so my initial guess is Eldritch Archer Magus

>>51668027
>akael

Oh fucking christ.

Sky Pirate GM, if you're reading. Don't let this shit stain into the game.

He/She/It (honestly can't tell), has ruined two separate games I've been in, by rarely showing up, and generally being a brain dead murderhobo whenever they do.

>>51666990
Previous (non-deleted) thread as well
>>51655712

>>51668098
I DUNNO ABOUT YOU M8 BUT THAT LOOKS LIKE A HUMAN, NOT A FERRET.

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>Be True Neutral Pactmaker
>Be devout worshiper of Calistria
>20 CHA, 16 CON
>Have Deific Obedience to Calistria
>Wrap self in silk every morning because the other way is too lewd
>Entire party is bi.
>Use Allure of the Night thinking it was like Warder Grand Challenge
>Accidentally distract the entire party w/ dat ass.

Well, that was a good first action for the night.

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>>51668072
...this does not inspire confidence, you realize that, right?

>>51668080
Eldritch Archer who and some way of getting the snapdragon spell, levels in ranger for favored enemy: humanoid (brother) and a bow with the kinslayer quality.

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>>51668047
More details

>Text only
>Monday 7pm EST to 10 pm
>Probably loosely in eberron (so that stuff's open)
>No (onscreen) lewds

>>51668137
Sounds like a wonderful example of a group interaction setting moment. Just don't take it too far, mention it on occasion as a background thing, and remember to take it into account.

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>>51668159
>favored enemy: humanoid (brother)

So I'm thinking about running a game. In every LFG DHB asks if he can run his homebrew. Gonna be honest here I normally see wanting your own homebrew as a way to fucking shit on a game. However he doesn't seem all bad.

Should I allow it? Is it decent or garbage?

Should I just make my game ERP so he doesn't apply?

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>>51668135
I'm about to blow your fucking mind.

Pic related is also said fuccboi.

>>51668137
what's Allure of the Night?

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Well I guess this is the thread now.

>>51668242
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/fighter/archetypes/radiance-house---fighter-archetypes/warshade

>Allure of the Night (Su): As a standard action, you can set loose the tantalizing whispers of the spirit bound to your seal of darkness for a number of rounds equal to your binder level. Make a Diplomacy check against all creatures in your threatened area (DC 10 + ½ the creature's hit dice + their Wis modifier); creatures you succeed against become wrought with alluring whispers, urging the creature to attack you. The creature takes a -2 penalty on attack rolls made against creatures other than you and suffers a 10% spell failure chance on spells that do not target you or do not have you within their targeted area. For every 4 binder levels beyond 5 that you possess, the attack roll penalty increases by -1 and the spell failure chance increases by 5%. A creature so affected is aware of this penalty.

>>51668235
Okay. And how often are they a ferret as opposed to 'generic anime child'?

>>51668178
So shit like warforged is in here? And shifters? Sounds cool!

>>51668223
I don't think ERP stops him, and I wouldn't let ANYONE play their own homebrew.

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>>51668027
>>51668128
Oh man, am I gonna get witch hunted? This is gonna be good.

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>>51668135
Well yeah, he is a human.
But he shapeshifts to a ferret.
He's also COMPLETELY FUCKING USELESS when he's not a ferret.
When he's a ferret, he's an adorable mascot who gives friendly advice.
When he's not a ferret, he's the token guy in an all girl cast who half the writing team tries to pair with the lead, while the other half throw in undertones that she's in a happy lesbian relationship with a reformed villain (now detective), with whom she adopted a child.

Really, the writers should just put him with Hayate. He's a boy nerd and certified straight, she's a girl nerd and somewhat infamously bi, it just works.

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>>51668047

Drop the free feats and I will play.

You want to drop the free feats because Spheres of Might wants to give you those feats using the Spheres (Berserker for Power Attacking).

Handing those out for free just ruins the playtest.

>>51668235
>Doesn't even have a cute mask
Fezmet superior Wizard Weasel!

>>51668256
The near-entirety of the first season, about half the other two.

>>51668284
I like your character but I found your pitch really obnoxious and not conveying "I would be good at playing with others"

It kinda plays into the twins and the Jojo meme character. If I'd played with you before and could vet you it's good, but in a vacuum it turns me off. I've never played with you and prob never will, so someone else will have to witch hunt. At least there was effort.

>>51668295
>Yuuno is completely irrelevant past part 1, is barely even mentioned in the later parts.

isn't it sad.jpg

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>>51668300
We're actually dropping that from Berserker because it's too vital to have. I'm not sure if it's in the preview yet, but it's being altered for another option which gives temp hit points, so that shouldn't be an issue.

>>51668300
It depends on what you're testing: SoP by itself to improve combat or improving combat by using SoP and other things.

>>51668279
Here is an thought. Would you like jolly play material he wrote? DHB is sort of in the same situation. He said his stuff is being published by purple duck games and the first book is coming out this weekend.

So it's even seen an editor.

>>51668137

Saboten is a slut! A filthy shameless slut!

>>51668300
>Handing those out for free just ruins the playtest.
Person in the first playtest here, it really doesn't ruin anything. Power Attack is an Equipment Sphere talent now anyways.

>>51668295
>Well yeah he's a human

OH REALLY. WELL HE AIN'T A FERRET THEN IS HE?

>>51668279
>>51668223
I think he wants to run his homebrew as a playtest more than anything else. Which any GM should be allowed to reject, but it's not like he's trying to sneak in a d12 HD full caster. Most of it seems well put together, and worst comes to worst he seems pretty receptive to being told to step things down a notch or two.

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>>51668344
Should the playtest give out the free feats, or NOT give out the free feats, Jolly?

And why are you posting Granblues?

>>51668317
To be desu, that happens to every named Nanoha character with a dick except for Touma and fuck Touma.

Nanoha's fat pink thing is enough malehood for the series.

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I heard you all were talking about magical mustelids

So I came and brought the greatest one of them all.

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>>51668349
One day I might actually apply for a PFG game...one day...

>>51668374
The book's gonna have a section that says those feats can be given freely, so I think they're fine for the playtest.

And all I know is they're gun girls, which while lower than punch girls, are still amazing.

>>51668349
Honestly? I probably wouldn't. That's just me though.

>>51668027
>The way the backstory opens IMMEDIATELY
Could you explain what you mean by this?

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>>51668308
To tell you the truth, I fully expected this to be a wash(same idea I went into Molthune with and that was right, so don't judge), so I just went crazy on it.

If it doesn't work out, then I'd rather have tried something new and learned new rules to apply in my own campaigns. If it does, I get a serious playtest with something I might allow in games I run. Win/win if you ask me.

>>51668137
>only one person doesn't get distracted by ass
>barely

a wild ride

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>>51668393
Jolly! Jolly! Jolly!
Will SoM have either a Sphere or at least a little support, for Mounted Combat/Riders?

Will it be possible to ride a horse, jump off of it, then do a Rider Kick?

What about having the option of just be Raoh riding Kokuoh, or Lu Bu on Red Hare

>>51668425

And what happened when everyone got distracted by ass? Did everyone bully Saboten?

>>51668393
Your latest Striker rework is great. We have almost achieved peak fighting game.

>>51668391
Negi's a lucky wizard.

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so, im making a short adventure with little to no combat, in where the party breaks into a storage house (kept there for a very short time before butchered) to examine a dead dragon, to find clues as to where it would live so they could track down the now unguarded hoard, and i've gotten a fairly satisfactory start of it, but i don't know really know how to make the "find" more interesting, i was thinking of having it's nest be in the top floor (with the roof broken) of a castle on an small island like in pic related, but with a completely shattered bridge so they can either find some smart way to cross anyway, or make the dangerous climb down, into the water and then scale the wall,

besides some other minor annoyances like rusted shut doors, staircases that break under the PC's weight and generally unsafe footing, what are some other stuff i could cram in that would make use of players skills and roleplay? i would also like to have something of a "middle" of the quest, but i can't come up with anything more interesting that "interview the people the dragon have attacked", any interesting ideas for ways to spin that?

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>>51668417
Oh, and it was also fun to write. Never knew how terrible I was at pirate talk until then.

>>51668414
I just found it boring. Look at how many backstories/bios in that thread open with "uh he was attached to airshipping somehow I guess".

Any pitch wants a hook, right? This isn't even specific to character apps. Your hook is your bio - that's the stuff that sparks my interest and makes me want the character in my game. It takes me a while to get to that, and the areas of focus laid out in all the text you've typed focus more on generic details, less on the hook. The magistrate stuff is OK for playing out in-character but I'm not killing myself to have it in the game.

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>>51668402
That's a shame, because if I was playing in a game, I'd want to use my own content, since that's why I write it. I write content I want to play.

>>51668466
We have an equestrian sphere at the moment, although it might be shifted into a more generic beastmaster sphere. So yes, yes it would.

>>51668471
Thanks, I realized tension combo just made sense as a default part of the class, and that it didn't have any innate boost to hit aside from burning tension for fiery offense, which I wanted to change. Just gotta figure out how to work in a dust loop, roman cancel, and FADC and we're perfect.

all this kind of makes me want to post the rough concept I had going to see what people think of it.

>>51668516

>tfw not enough Kunoichi PCs

>>51668526

Give it! Give it!

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>>51668393
>The book's gonna have a section that says those feats can be given freely, so I think they're fine for the playtest.

Really? Just, straight up, free Power Attack/Deadly Aim/Combat Expertise/Vital Strike?

And hey, why do blacksmiths STILL not have heavy armor proficiency? That's some bullshit.

>>51668516
No offense because your stuff's pretty good (my lack of interest in spheres of war aside), but EVERYONE who homebrews writes stuff they want to play, and I don't want to have to deal with 'but you let him play his stuff so you have to accept my homebrew class that uses piss as a power source' bullshit.

>>51668549

>Kitsune
>Blacksmith
>Heavy Armor Proficiency

>>51668574
owlbear

>>51668256
As I understand it, he spends the whole of the first series in ferret form, playing Shoulder Angel to Nanoha Takamachi by teaching her magic and guiding her after she takes over his quest. Apparently he was badly injured when he arrived on Earth and had to spend time in ferret form to recover.

>>51668551
Personally, whenever I write homebrew content, I always wait until someone else plays it first, and then wait to see if they and my group like it or not.

So far its worked pretty well, since one of my mates is using my PoW Swashbuckler in a campaign and is having fun with it.

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>>51668549
>bitching about free feats
>when they're feats that should be free anyway

>>51668551
I play an alchemist who makes bombs out of ammonia rendered from his own urine.

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>>51668549
Keyword 'CAN'. It isn't the default, it's just a suggestion.

Blacksmith isn't my babby, so I don't really know myself. I'm a Striker/Sentinel guy (new name for paragon), that's my jazz.

>>51668551
I mean, hit me up when ya boy has homebrew that's 3/5 most reoccurring titles in Paizo's top 10 list for a year and all. Or one of the top 10 highest rated products of all time on the top 10 lists.

I understand though, it sets a bad precedent that you don't want to deal with, and I can respect that.

>>51668619
Thanks for understanding.

>>51668549
>Nothing in Spheres of Anything will ever get Heavy Proficiency.

>>51668516
You could probably do some cute FADC with the abort full attack action. Probably the ability to disengage with a bonus to something during a full attack action after the first shot goes out, at the expense of the rest of your attacks.

Roman Cancel I feel would require PoW, an immediate choice of (prepared/known) Strike on hit with a standard action attack. Or switching up combat maneuvers on hit.

Dust loop I can't help you with, but a straight Dust would be Awesome Blow, but you can send people into the sky. Or into a wall, Dungeoncrasher Fighter style.

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What Pact do these guys have?

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>>51668128
>He/She/It (honestly can't tell)

What? Akael is obviously a girl, just like 2hu.

>>51668659

Why would you ever want Heavy Armor proficiency, anon? As we here at /pfg/ know, Heavy Armor is inefficient and useless! Wearing big armor is such a waste, and ugly too! How are you supposed to use your Dexterity in it?

>>51668666
Old One

>>51668659
Paragon/sentinel has it.

>>51668677
If you're so certain, then you've obviously never heard it speak.

>>51668688
>Paragon

They still need to do something about that shitass name.

>>51668678
>He doesn't have armor training
Don't presume to impugn my QUALITY.

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>>51668678
>how are you supposed to use your dexterity in it
mithral, armor training, iron pikeman's stance

be dragoon

>>51668666
None. They're cool and Avowed Drools.

>>51668678
An Armorist with a suit of Platemail as his Bound Equipment and Expanded Materials can get Mithril PLatemail, combined with his built in Armor Training, and you can roll around in it with no ACP

>>51668722

There's some freaky Pact going on with the Soul of the Blood of the Wolf, anon.

>>51668677
He tried to start a Dominions themed game.

No way in hell a woman would try that.

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>>51668701
Were you in Molthune? I thought that was text only?

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So ey.

Cones suck. As do Lines. A wider line is easy as heck to do, you just make it wider.

But does this look about right for a narrower cone? Have I got the area template good here or no?

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>>51668712
...he just said it's being changed to sentinel like 3 post back.

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>>51668733
MY ONLY REGRET IS THAT I GOT PNEUMONIA. Fuck me I almost died like twice.

One of these days I'm goin back to that world and with better rules.

>>51668666
You can justify the Wolf Blood as numerous types. Either Celestial, Old One, Court Fey, or Elemental could work.

>>51668744
So a cone for putting a little english on your shots ey?

I'm down. Though personally i'm of the mind it has to have better range than regular cones,

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>>51668745
Oh, I thought Sentinel was something else.

Never mind me then, boyo.

>>51668772

>Shame Cube
>Pioneered by the Swedish

>>51668736
Nope.

>>51668680
Nope.

>>51668769
Well yeah. That was the idea.

Of the four 'templates', a cone would have the shortest, followed by a narrow cone, then a wide line, and then a line for longest.

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Where is my Int-based Spheres of Might class?

>>51668767
>>51668666
Actually, looking at Playtest 2, Divine also looks like it could work really well as well

>>51668731
Could just be Oracles of Battle or replace-all-the-things Fighters, perhaps?

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>>51668701
>>51668733
I'm not claiming Akael is the most human human, but she's definitely female. Possibly a female Ghoul.

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>>51668731
>Soul of the Blood of the Wolf

>>51668469
No bullying, though Aster is embarrassed, and Tia wants to learn how to do that.

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So! Who all's excited for the weekend? Any big plans, game-related or otherwise?

There really isn't any reason for a martial character to go with strength when you can afford the feats to go the dexterity route is there?

>>51668533
OKAY SO. Do remember that this is pretty rough and that I abandoned it before really getting very far at all.

>>51668533
OKAY SO.

Rough background: The Marquess of Golden Thorns was formerly a minor lord in the First World (or Albion, which the GM said was basically the equivalent) who basically just did her own thing, grew magic roses that never wilted in the fields surrounding her keep, and generally didn't get in anyone's way.

That's why she was caught completely off guard when she got caught in the machinations of two other fey lords of greater standing. Over something completely stupid and petty (rough idea: each had challenged the other to take a single rose from her), she had her fields and keep burned to the fucking ground, her rank and name stripped from her, and THEN got exiled.

Fey have no sense of proportion.

Her completely logical and reasonable response is to completely reinvent herself, becoming a sort of bogeyman figure that people speak of in hushed whispers - because in the lands of the fey, such tales are power, and she would bring their full might against those who dared take everything from her. She chose being a sky pirate because it was already the sort of position that was semi-legendary (the Marquess of Golden Thorns, terror of the skies, has a greater strength to it than, say, the Marquess of Golden Thorns, terror of chimney sweeps).

Of course, because fey, she's literally recreating herself into this urban legend, and I was thinking there'd be a point where she'd end up confronted by that (after she put the captain's head on a fucking pike for his new act of betrayal, of course).

I couldn't find a way to write the backstory in a way that wasn't dull or needlessly edgy, and I realized while I was trying that the character wasn't really suited for wacky sky pirate hijinks, and that was the way most of the apps seemed to be headed.

mechanically, daoine sidhe harbinger || avenger vig.

>>51668883
Dragons is starting in like 10 or so.

>>51668883
I still have to rebuild animal companion and familiar sheets.

>>51668886
Haven't we done this already? Strength deals more damage.

>>51668875
Anon, what the fuck are you talking about?
The anon was asking how to make the Abyss Watchers, of course we would discuss using the Wolf's Blood as an avowed patron.

Its not a reference, its the current discussion subject

>>51668883
Fluffy tails may actually run come Monday!

I had to work overtime from 10:00 pm to midnight and missed out on running my game today

>>51668886
You could use those feats to get better at combat instead of swapping to dex. Strength allows for more damage, and heavy armor shores up your AC.

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>>51668890

>mfw all that
>mfw it's a genuinely good and interesting take on a Daoine Sidhe from the First World

>mfw it's being used for SKY PIRATES

Anon, your girl deserves better. Save the concept for Kingmaker or something.

>>51668833
Actually, aside from Paragon/Sentinal and Sage (which needs to die in a trash fire), most of the classes are fairly stat agnostic.

However, I feel a Blacksmith would get the most out of having high Int, so he can use more Craft skills

>>51668901
The term of calling the whole thing "Soul of the Blood of the Wolf" is a joke started by Two Best Friends Play, for how ludicrous the whole thing is.

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https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/68933/som-playtest-2-the-trilogy

Game is set for Sunday two weeks from now, might push that back to 3 if there's issues, but aside from that, it's nice to get back into running games. I've missed it, but I'm trying to slowly get back into running things, and I'm new to roll20, so don't be too rough if things aren't 100% perfect, okay?

What's the best way to play with double weapons? I really love the idea of one, shit as they are.

>>51668955
>Soul of the Blood of the Wolf" is a joke started by Two Best Friends Play, for how ludicrous the whole thing is.
No, its called that because THATS THE FUCKING NAME OF THE FUCKING SOUL ITEM YOU STUPID FUCK, meaning its apropriate to call it as such here.

Now, I like the Zaibatsu as much as the last guy, but not everything is a reference to SBFP you dingus.

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>>51668983

You're getting awfully angry at a guy that's partially correct in that I used the full title because I heard it on Two Best Friends.

>>51668979
Its exactly the same as dual wielding two regular weapons, so just go from there.

>>51668994
>I'm just as dumb so together we're right.
Not even that guy. Stop being a moron.

>>51668890
It's a good concept, but a better NPC concept than a PC one unless the game is going for a particular angle which everyone is agreed on. Which you seem to have realised yourself.

>>51668940
This is what I mean. Go all out and do something wild and new with every single character. If the game fails, or the character fails, you learned something and still have a character.

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So, would Nier make for a deven Avowed, with Weiss as his Patron? If so, what Patron would he have?

If not an avowed, what would be a better class to play as Nier?

Also, DID NOTHING WRONG!

>>51668955
http://darksouls3.wiki.fextralife.com/Soul+of+the+Blood+of+the+Wolf

It's the real name. Not a joke.

I'm hoping you're actually not this dumb and are just trolling.

>>51669027

Nier is not Avowed, Weiss is the Avowed and just hangs around Nier because his goals align with his own.

Nier is a Warder that dumped Charisma.

>>51669055
>>51669027
Neither Nier nor Weis are Avowed. Goddamn, stop trying to make everything this meme fucking class.

Nier is some kind of martial, probably a Barbarian. Weiss isn't any PC class put probably some kind of custom monster or templated spell caster.

Fuck that's a neat idea for a template, a wizard that became the spell book.

>>51669072

Despite all the memery involved with Avowed, the pew pew lasers that book loves to pump out fit the various Aether blasts nicely.

>>51668027
Ai, thanks I guess.

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>>51669053
>fextralife

>>51669085
So can pretty much any other kind of spellcaster.

>>51669055
>>51669072
But Weiss cannot use his own magic without Nier directing him and controlling the magic.
Why else do you see Nier as the one wielding the giant shadow fists or pointing the spears, or summoning the shadow clones during the boss-defeat cutscenes?

Weiss is the source of the magic, but Nier is the one actively directing and and controlling it, and is able to do so specifically because he made a pact with Weiss.

Kaine meanwhile is probably a Bloodrager, while Emil is either an Oracle or Arcanist

>>51668940
Thanks anon! I appreciate that.

I was really struggling writing the backstory and so I took a step back and asked myself, you know, hey, is this going to be something you're actually going to enjoy playing in the game as it stands?

Kinda killed me to say no, 'cause I've been wanting a game where I can actually try PoW/daoine sidhe that isn't lewdshit, but honestly everyone else was playing so over the top that I could tell it wouldn't work out.

>>51669021
Definitely the case. I have a problem with making daoine sidhe concepts that end up better as NPC fodder, because goddamn fey.

>>51669023
I dunno, man, it was a situation where the character completely didn't fit, and I feel like it would be wasting my time and the GM's to try to make it fit. There will be other games, I don't gotta force an application.

Is there a magic item that can give weapon focus in something?

>>51669113
Nier most certainly isn't a fucking 3/4ths D8 Charisma based class.

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>>51668950
Blacksmith is Con secondary, Anon.

>>51669103
Anon it's on every other wiki. Including freakin IGN.

Just stop already.

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>>51668976

Is this still in Eberron?

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>>51669118
>I have a problem with making daoine sidhe concepts that end up better as NPC fodder, because goddamn fey.

Daoine Sidhe are easy, anon! Just read Gaelic myth and use that.

Hell, if you're starting at a high level you can buy a Mithral Arm and go full Nuada!

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>>51669146
Whoops, I can't read.

Alright, WHERE in Eberron? Any country in particular?

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>>51669118
You don't gotta force an application, but why not cast your line in every pool? You gotta hold out hope that one of them is gonna be The One, you know?

>>51668950
The scholar is a class that's going to be Int focused, and sage is in a weird place where it might be pushed to the gish book to have it make more sense, making it an SoM/P hybrid class. Same goes for the troubadour, which better fits its concept with magic.

>>51669125
Gestalt?

>>51669147
Okay, but now imagine that in a pathfinder party's the problem.

>>51669166

Yes, Gestalt and Replicant.

>>51669158
It'll be in the Eldeen reaches in a newly formed town that you're helping to sustain itself among the wilds. All normal races are open to this as well as eberron exclusive races; if you have a conversion for them that you'd like me to look at, go ahead and show it to me.

>>51668516
Tell you the truth, Jolly, I don't know a lot about the stuff you make or I'd allow it a lot more often.

What would you allow in an Eberron undeadgame?

>>51669147
>Mithral Arm

Shitty 3.0 bullcrap.

>>51669178
>but now imagine that in a pathfinder party's the problem.

Not necessarily, maybe you're doing it to get stronker before you go back into the First World.

Maybe you're doing it to hang out with the Fae that choose to live in the Material, those Nymphs can get pretty *freaky*, you know?

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>>51669191
Newly formed town under what government? Breland? Aundair? Karrnath?

>>51669160
I have to care about a game enough to write a backstory and a sheet, friend. Fire and forget doesn't work for me.

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>>51669191
>normal race

What's a normal race?

What, are aasimar/tieflings "normal"?

Are strixes normal?

>>51669222
Probably Core

>>51669188
As of yet, there is no planned dex to damage option outside of what's already listed.

This is why we're thinking of pushing it back to the gish book, so we can give it magical spheres and make it a more mystic combatant instead of the more frail role that it has now as a debuffer.

>>51669198
That's fair, I have a decent catalog

Out of my stuff? That's a hard call, but definitely a viscera kineticist, probably corpse puppeteer too.

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>>51669183

>>51669125
Heart of Magic, and a 1-3 levels dipped in Barbarian or Ranger, from before he got access to Weiss and acted as a hunter for the villiage.

>>51669210
God damn, that's a hard choice...I'm going to say Karnnath, as I always liked their lore more thand Breland. There will be the subtle influence of the Church of the Silver Flame around since there are going to be lycanthropes around.

>>51669222
Nothing over 20 RP, I just meant no monstrous stuff like centaurs and such.

>>51669200

>Hating on having a Winter Soldier arm when it's effectively a Belt of Giant's Strength +4.

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>>51669231

So how DO I make a sage that doesn't suck total dick? Str/Wis and hope I don't die?

Like, what the hell does a sage have over a striker, seriously?

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>>51669183
You know, I didn't even realize I made that pun when I offered that explanation.
Good show.

>>51669188

That Kitsune has extremely large breasts! Why is she showing them off with such a shameless expression?

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>>51669254
>Nothing over 20 RP, I just meant no monstrous stuff like centaurs and such.

Alright, I guess flying races are out?

R.I.P. Strix striker

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>>51669266
At this point we're going to discuss it more, it might be pulled for the next playtest. As far as I'm aware, the chi gong touch is intended to be the mainstay of its offense, but yeah, it's pretty fragile at the moment, so we'll be working to help fix it's...glass like bones.

>>51669228

Does this include Warforged?

>>51669217
Hm... Fair enough, I suppose. I myself like to fire and forget and get invested into a game after it starts, that way I can start with a simple character and develop.

But the other way around is just as well. Good fortune to you in your search!

>>51669307
Is strix over 20 RP? I mean I'm fine with those, I just didn't want drow nobles fucking around with shit. Strix is fine with me.

>>51669339
Thanks! Maybe there will be another non-lewd game here someday.

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>>51669231
>Gish book for SoM
I think I asked this before, but will Magus get any support? The Sphere magus archetype as-is could really use some... Not buffs, but at least alterations to make it more appealing as a whole.

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>>51669317
The chi gong touch isn't even GOOD offense. It's just plain shit.

Are you supposed to go TWF and hope for the best? Hah, big fucking chance with your 1/2 BAB.

Why in the flying fuck is this a 1/2 BAB class?

So lads, how are your sessions going tonight?

Are skill points useful to maguses? FCB-wise? I'm gonna be Bladebound but even at my reduced progression I don't know how much I care about a +1/4 per level.

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>>51668950
>However, I feel a Blacksmith would get the most out of having high Int, so he can use more Craft skills

Blacksmith uses Profession (blacksmith). It's a Wis-based class.

There's basically no Int-based Might class now.

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>>51669364
We do plan on doing stuff with the magus, although at the moment most of our attention is placed on getting the base spheres/classes to work. I will be working on the Magus though, as I really like the class.

>>51669375
It's intended to only aim for touch AC, so its 1/2 BAB shouldn't be a large issue. The aiming for touch is why it's 1/2 BAB, although personally, I think the scholar will fit the concept better.

>>51669396
+1/4 arcane pool per level, I mean

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>>51669398
That'll be the scholar once it's ready to show; it's probably the most ready class at the moment, as conscript (build a martial) is going through a lot of changes.

>>51669398

Is that supposed to be a wolf-girl? The ears seem a little rabbit-esque.

>>51669364
>I think I asked this before, but will Magus get any support? The Sphere magus archetype as-is could really use some... Not buffs, but at least alterations to make it more appealing as a whole
What did you have in mind?

>>51669307
>strix
Huh, I missed these guys.. What's their story in Golarion?

>>51669399
>It's intended to only aim for touch AC, so its 1/2 BAB shouldn't be a large issue
Yes it is unless all it's expceted to fight is dragons.Touch AC can get pretty hard to fucking hit, it's just that all those fucking kaiju tier monsters with a touch in the single digits drag the average down. This class is going to have issues in normal combats past low levels.

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>>51669231
These look fairly interesting, actually. Corpse puppeteer looks like it wouldn't get much use in an ordinary game... but I'm not planning on running an ordinary game, of course.

This is just idle conversation at this point, but what would you most like to run? Anything that's really tickled your mind?

>>51669398
>Blacksmith uses Profession (blacksmith)
Why? Profession (Blacksmith) isn't even weapons it's nails and horseshoes.

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>>51669399
>It's intended to only aim for touch AC

What, and do even more dogshit damage?

You know they can only target touch at level 3, right? If they start at level 1 because "Hey guys we're playing an AP," they're dead weight.

>>51669426
I only know about the ones in Cheliax, and it's basically "Chelish are racist and hate them, they decide the best way to solve the problem is to attack everyone around them."

And that's probably me remembering it all wrong.

>>51669439

I don't know how to feel when I say Dwarf Fortress taught me this first.

You've got Blacksmiths, Metalcrafters, Weaponsmiths, Armorsmiths and Jewelers!

>>51669426
They're a racist asshole ex-slave-race birdpeople who were owned by a a race of even bigger racist asshole birdpeople.

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>Spheres of Might

>blacksmith gets only 4 skill points
>has to take Profession (blacksmith) and more Craft skills

>sage gets only 4 skill points
>has to take Heal

"Hey guys, these classes only have 2-3 skill points to throw around."

Fuck this shit.

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>>51669427
That also ignores the piles of natural armor most other monsters get as well as armor/shield, which is a lot of most NPC's best defense. Hitting touch with 1/2 BAB isn't the most difficult thing out there, so it's not completely dead in the water there. As it is, it could probably stand to go to 3/4ths though.

>>51669436
I've said it before, but if I could find enough good city maps, I'd run a thieves game in Sharn with 3rd-5th level NPCs slowly making their way into being crime bosses.

I'm gradually learning roll20 more, so maps are the only real issue here.

>>51669454
The difference between full BAB and 1/2 BAB at 1st and 2nd level is +1, so I don't see what your issue is there. If they go dex, have a 16 while the physical attack has the same attacking stat, it's a 1 point difference in attack. It gets wider at 3rd where it's a 2 point difference, which is why the designer waited to give it touch at 3rd instead of overloading 1st level.

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>>51669399
Nice. As long as there's SOMETHING.

>>51669425
Really, it needs to be revamped. The combining of the Arcane Pool (with no changes to the effects of the ability) and Spell Pool is clunky at best, the lack of sphere-specific Arcana is disappointing at minimum, and no archetype support combines into making the Magus feel like it's only good for a 2-level dip.

Wow this place is actually as bad as I'd heard. Why is this general such shit?

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>>51669439

Does that jackass Jolly even know that Profession (blacksmith) doesn't exist?

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/skills/profession
It's not in the Profession rules.

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/skills/background-skills
It's not in the background skills either.

You know what DOES exist? CRAFT (blacksmith). Should be fucking obvious.

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>>51669486
Fair point, neither of those are mine, but I can bring this up to the others. At the very least, sage should probably be 6 skill points.

>>51669513
You can take profession *anything* it's just lists the most common.

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>>51669513
Yet again, not my class, I already told you which ones were mine. If you have issues with it, please leave them on the doc, where someone other than me, such as the developer for that class will see them.

Is it fucking stupid to take Oracle VMC (battle mystery) just to have a 1/day immediate action move up to your speed? It feels pretty fucking stupid, but there's so little else to actually have what you need as melee in this game. What are the better options?

>>51669513
You can take profession whatever, you assbandit. Those are just the most common.

>>51669513
>The most common Profession skills are architect, baker, barrister, brewer, butcher, clerk, cook, courtesan, driver, engineer, farmer, fisherman, gambler, gardener, herbalist, innkeeper, librarian, merchant, midwife, miller, miner, porter, sailor, scribe, shepherd, stable master, soldier, tanner, trapper, and woodcutter.
WOW, NO OTHER PROFESSIONS EXIST!

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>>51669495

Sage is targeting touch but is doing only, like, 2d6 + Str at level 3.

No Power Attack because fuck you, Power Attack doesn't work with touch attacks.

So the oh so fragile sage is doing fuck all for damage, even with touch attacks.

>>51669513
Its not Jolly's class

Also, Profession can exist for any kind of Profession skill, if you reread the description, all it says are "examples of", you can still technically take PRofession in just about anything, though whether its useful depends greatly on what you picked and how lenient your GM feels about interpretation.

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>>51669543
>>51669551
Profession (blacksmith) doesn't exist because you use Craft to make things, not Profession.

>>51669513
"Jeez, why don't devs get on PFG?"

>Stupid assholes insult dev for things that aren't even his fault
>He still responds classy as hell

>>51669469
>>51669458
Well then, this has potential for that Cult Master I was building. Thanks!

>>51669558
You know what craft skills DON'T dictate? Your ability to run and work at a smithy.

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>>51669559
>classy as hell

Apparently talking casually is "classy as hell" now?

>>51669495
For maps, I suggest you practice with the built in roll20 tools. They don't get much detail, but you can quickly ad-hoc a map if the players go somewhere you didn't expect. Saved my life several times when DMing.

But when you can, settling down with a good tileset in photoshop will work out to make a fantastic map.

>>51669574
When the usual response is spitting bile and screaming like a prima donna while fellating yourself?
Yea, casual politeness is fucking class.

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>>51669552
Fair point, Power Attack should work with that. I'll talk to the sage's dev about that, as I agree with you there.

>>51669513
>>51669558
>2hu kitsune poster is a moron
sasuga weeb-kun

>>51669496
>Really, it needs to be revamped. The combining of the Arcane Pool (with no changes to the effects of the ability) and Spell Pool is clunky at best, the lack of sphere-specific Arcana is disappointing at minimum, and no archetype support combines into making the Magus feel like it's only good for a 2-level dip.

The simple truth is, the magus isn't that especially well designed. It gets its primary class feature in 2 levels, and they can at least be somewhat duplicated with spheres talents.

There is no real reason to design arcana for them, because you can turn almost any one into a feat and let the mageknight and the SoP classes have access to it. The mageknight is basically the replacement for the magus.

>>51669123
Training Enchantment from Inner Sea Intrigue.

>>51669558
Yeah, just like Tanner, Butcher, and Baker aren't professions either!

Wait.

Also, that page specifically says THE MOST COMMON.

>>51669574
Considering what we've seen from other devs, this is a fucking class act. He's still answering questions despite all this.

>>51669571
Which doesn't influence the quality of the weapons your produce, but you're ability to run a buisness.

Blacksmithing is just stuff like anvils, horseshoes, and nails. Mundane, sundry things.

>>51669598
>Yeah, just like Tanner, Butcher, and Baker aren't professions either!
And non of these things influence your ability to make things. It's the difference between Craft(Food) and Profession(Chef) there's making food and running a kitchen. Profession is the later.

>>51669623
>Butchers don't make things.
>Bakers don't make things

>>51669623
>Bakers can't make food
This is some advanced shitposting.

>>51669644
>>51669633
By profession rules they literally can't. They can answer questions about being a baker, but can't actually commit the act. It's the system being awful.

>>51669594
Hence "it needs to be revamped". It's "Not well designed" mainly due to not being designed for spheres, however that doesn't mean the class can't be salvaged to a functional state. Hell, I'd even settle for an Elementalist Archetype that up and stole the Spell Combat/Spellstrike/Arcane Pool feature set. While actually expanding Arcane pool.

>>51669670
What the fuck kind of DM would ever make that type of ruling on it?

>>51669644
By RAW they don't unless they have ranks in Craft(Bread). Otherwise all profession Baker does is let you answer questions and run a shop. Personally, I'd say profession lets you make a product but it won't help you make a better product.

>>51669670
>You know how to use the tools of your trade, how to perform the profession's daily tasks, how to supervise helpers, and how to handle common problems.
>how to perform the profession's daily tasks
Fuck you, you're wrong and just covering your ass.

>>51669670
False.

Pathfinder AP Skull and Shackles, you can make food with profession(cook) checks. Specific rules overcome general rules. It's an alternate use of the skill.

Even RAW you lose. Give up.

>>51669670
Big deal. Craft (Glassmaking) doesn't normally let you conjure magical illusions, but Path of War exists.

>>51669670
"You know how to use the tools of your trade, how to perform the profession's daily tasks, how to supervise helpers, and how to handle common problems."

>How to perform the profession's daily tasks.

>>51669670
No, by the rules someone with Craft (Food) can only make food. Someone with Profession (Baker) is a /professional baker/ and can both bake and answer questions about baking.

>You know how to use the tools of your trade, how to perform the profession's daily tasks, how to supervise helpers, and how to handle common problems.
The daily tasks of a baker are baking. Not only that but it never says "You cannot make items." You are inserting that.

>>51669713
>. Not only that but it never says "You cannot make items." You are inserting that.
That's like saying your fighter gets 9th level spell casting because the rules never say it doesn't.

>>51669729
Except there's also nothing saying he does. Whereas we have things saying that bakers can bake.

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>>51669700
>>51669705
>>51669713
>>51669729
If Profession (blacksmith) exists and lets you make horseshoes and ironworks and stuff, then why would you ever take Craft (blacksmithing), something that already exists with background skills?

What's a good gift for the party witch to console her for being burnt?

>>51669735
No we have rules saying someone with Profession(Baker) can use their skill to make gold weekly, but not actually produce goods. Knowing how to run this business isn't the same as knowing how to make a good product and vice versa.

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>>51669752
So a blacksmith, the class, needs to take:

- Craft (blacksmithing) to actually make the things a blacksmith makes
- Profession (blacksmith) to run the smithy

4 base skill points, guys.

>>51669752
So you're saying that 'bake bread' is not a daily task as a baker.

>>51669729
The claim that someone with Profession (Chef) can't cook is pretending that the rules say "You know how to cook but you can't actually cook anything." There's no "you can't actually cook anything" in there.

>>51669749
Because Craft lets you make masterwork versions of things.

>>51669750

Aloe vera?

>>51669762
So why not comment on the doc instead of getting pissy here when you've been told that's the only place that dev will look?

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2 questions:
How does the mythology of Pathfinder differentiate from regular D&D?

In PF, Are Apsu and Timiat the source of all creation and other gods?

>>51669762
>Craft (blacksmithing)
No, unless he fights with giant horseshoes. He's going to need Craft(Weapons) and Craft(Armor).

>>51669775
Should I rub it on her personally? Or is that too forward?

>>51669797
yes, it is way too forward.

Don't be a fucking creep.

>>51669792
No, and you're fucking retarded for thinking D&D has a regular universal mythology in the first goddamn place.

>>51669749
Because Craft is what's listed for specific items like Masterwork and Magical Items

Basically, Profession is for basic pedestrian work, while Craft is for extraordinary work

>>51669426
>>51669458
>>51669469
It's also heavily implied they're either the cursed remnants of the Azlant or the mysterious winged race that lived alongside the humans and elves of the lost continent, also cursed. The Syrinx (dick-ass owl people) modified some population of the Strix to serve as their slavekeepers and warriors, since they figured winged humanoids > non-winged humanoids, while the rest were basically savages who lived as animals until the Age of Darkness, at which point they figured their ancient duty was over and they settled the mountains in Hellcoast. Critically Strix are basically super insular because their main human exposure was fucking Cheliax (dick-ass devil worshippers), and their main non-human exposure was the Syrinx (dick-ass owls) both of whom were super into enslaving and/or exterminating the Strix. They also don't breed particularly well and have short lives, so they get extremely bitter about lives being taken from them. In fluff they're described as killing dozens of humans in revenge whenever the Cheliax take one of their own.

Basically they're angry flying native americans, with witches and oracles as their main casters. They're neutral, probably because their morality is self-directed and good-aligned deities basically ignore them (but fuck Cheliax and those devilboos).

Their main advantage being that they very rarely die of unnatural causes thanks to being the best natural flyer humanoids on Golarion (their only real predators are humans who hate them and flying megafauna). The Strix fighter racial archetype is built around their strengths and is pretty solid, although it sacrifices Heavy Armor Proficiency and Weapon Training.

>>51669792
No, in Pathfinder's setting Asmodeus and his now dead brother Ihys were the first things.

>>51669805
Bro, just trying to help. Don't get hostile.

>>51669792
In pathfinder the most believable origin story of creation for mortals and the gods is the one told by Asmodeus about The First, the twin spirits that congealed from the ether, Asmodeus and his brother Ihys. They were surrounded by lesser motes and named all the gods. They then together created the first mortals, but argued over mortal's right to free will. Asmodeus argued against, Ihys for. A conflict then drew the gods to two sides, The Brother's War or The War In Heaven. This war raged and many gods died. On a distant planet orbiting a foreign star Asmodeus called for an armistice with his brother, but committed the first evil act of the gods, stabbing his sibling when he extended his hand in brotherhood in an event known as The First Betrayal. Asmodeus did not revel in his victory, feeling remorse he allowed his brother's vision of mortality to persist and created Hell as a monument to his ideals.

Of course there are sources saying that the Qlippoth existed before the gods, and that The Rough Beast, Rovagug is the greatest of them.

There is also the strange things that lurk between words that corrupted the once bright and beautiful Dou-Bral into the wicked Zon-Kuthon.

The dragons were Aspu's mortal creation.

>>51669814
But there was also that bit with Tiamat and Apsu back when they were two different oceans.

>>51669856
>>51669792
Also for the love god. PLEASE PLEASE learn to separate system from setting.

>>51669863
>>51669814
There are a lot of different stories, but Asmodeus's is the most believable for a few reasons. The spear he killed his brother with still exists in pieces, one of these pieces is an artifact. Also Sarenrae is confirmed to have participated in The War In Heaven.

At the very least there is a lot of evidence that The War In Heaven occurred.

>>51669874
Oh woopdie fucking doo. Pathfinder only has one official setting asshat.

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>>51669814
Then why is Apsu in the Paizo-released "Inner Faiths" as creators of the "multiverse"?
>>51669898
>>51669891
Is it just myths of the Inner-Sea faiths?

>>51669898
And D&D has like a Dozen.

>>51669918
>Is it just myths of the Inner-Sea faiths?
Asmodeus's creation myth came out in the book about him Prince of Darkness.

Asmodeus's is the most believable because it involves not only other gods, but there is a physical item related to his myth still knocking about.

>>51669926
I don't see your point? If I say "in pathfinder" only an actual retard would jump to Dragonlance or Eberron.

>>51669933
Importantly, even in Asmodeus's story, he wasn't the first to do everything. He wasn't the first being in the Hells, even.

>>51669933
Well the Orbs of Dragonkind are also sourced from their creation myth.

>>51669933
I meant, "Is the story of Apsu+Tiamiat just a myth"?
Do they exist in PF at all, if so, what have they done/created?

>>51668886
It's the other way around unless you're ranged. There's no real reason to jump through the feat hoops to get your Dex to Melee online when you can get an Agile weapon or grab a two-hander, take Power Attack, and move on with your life.

Initiative isn't important to you unless you're a charger and your allies are too dumb to leave you charge lanes. Reflex saves are the least dangerous saves to fail. AC can be made up for by wearing medium or heavy armor, with ACP able to be bought off with money.

To get Dex working on par with Strength, you're setting at least a feat and a weapon enchantment on fire, or you are locked into a specific class to a specific point (URogue to 3rd for melee, Trench Fighter to 3rd for firearms, Bolt Ace to 5th for crossbows). For melee weapons, you still want at least a 13 Strength for Power Attack anyway (unless you are TWFing or a caster playing at martial and must have a hand free).

It really isn't worth it except in the situation where you absolutely need the Dex to cover for your bad armor AC (Rogue or Monk) or you're switch hitting as a ranged character and have a feat to burn on Finesse/get poncy Elf weapon proficiency. (Throwing builds/Elf URogues)

>>51669944
And you asked for a comparison to D&D. Which has several dozen settings.

>>51669963
Apsu, Tiamat, and Dahak all exist, yes.

Tiamat is mostly unknown on Golarion though.

>>51669964
>Initiative isn't important
FULL
RETARD

>>51669978
He's not the same Anon that asked.
I just didn't know that D&D didn't have an unified mythology/setting.

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>>51669517
>At the very least, sage should probably be 6 skill points.

Is this official now?

>>51669991
>Initiative isn't important to you unless you're a charger and your allies are too dumb to leave you charge lanes.

CANNOT
READ

>>51670004
Initiative is important for everyone. Regardless of play style.

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>>51669999
I'm discussing it with the group, but it seems likely.

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>>51669183
You, I like you.

>>51669926

Can you imagine? Pathfinder's been out for like a decade and for the vast majority of that has been when Paizo's staff already realized Golarion was a dead setting.

And yet it's like the only Pathfinder setting out there!

That's sad.

>>51670068
Isn't there Cerulean Seas?

>>51670086
That's third party, genius.

>>51670068
D&D has been around for 43 years, more than quadruple the existence of Pathfinder, with two full generations to develop for it and a much broader base.

How many systems have multiple settings, anyway?

>>51669750
You again? As I said, a Corset of Dire Witchcraft with an added fire resistance enchant. Just offer it to her, and stop being creepy.

>>51669811
>Lost Continent
Interesting, I really should look into the background stuff of pathfinder more...
>Strix stuff
Why haven't they staged some sort of migration to a better mountain range? Or hell, with all those witches and oracles they could probably get a cloud city going. As a whole people capable of flight there are tons of things they could do to better their races standing and station, while still being insular and paranoid.
Though the thought now occurs to me, Strix based tiefling/aasimar?

>>51670054
>92% camo index
or conversely
>hide in plain sight.png

>>51670138
>Strix based tiefling/aasimar?

Aasimar can already get wings, anon.

>Why haven't they staged some sort of migration to a better mountain range?

The only major mountain ranges within flying distance are heavily settled by the Dwarves and Dragons.

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>>51668047
So explain attack actions to me.

If I use something that says "As an attack action, you can make an attack and blah blah blah," can I use Vital Strike on that?

>>51670138
They're pretty well-settled. They've got access to the sea for fishing and their settlements are situated on stone spires that are basically unnavigable for someone who can't fly. There's odd clashes with miners and Chelian colonists, which often result in a few hundred dead humans which doesn't factor into the Empire's ethical calculus at all.

If Cheliax ever gave them a reason to leave because of a massed invasion, they might go on long migration.

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>>51670197
We're phasing out that phrase, from now on, it'll just be 'as part of an attack action', and yes, you can.

>>51669540
pls

>>51670186
It's not for the wings, it's for the societal implications.
The mountain range bit makes sense, though I'm tempted to do the math involving overland flight speeds, control weather and so on.
>>51670200
Good point. Still seems like that with a population and area that small that they're ripe for a hero figure to emerge and pull some promised land shenanigans.

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>>51670215

I have to say; from the looks of it, the best possible build for a sage at the moment is a Barrage sphere arrow spammer. This lets a sage avoid getting into the thick of melee where the sage is most vulnerable, and allows a sage to land as many attacks as possible for the chi gong strike.

Taking the Sniping sphere and Focused Sphere (Sniping) to roll twice and take the higher result for ranged attack rolls makes this build even better.

Would Spheres of Power and Might effectively replace the existing classes for Pathfinder?

Without 3rd party content, is there a way to do Arcane Trickster without having to do Arcane Trickster?

>>51669540
>>51670218
Yes, it's dumb as fuck. Just ask if you can use the pre-errata Quick Runner's Shirt.

>>51670229
>they're ripe for a hero figure to emerge and pull some promised land shenanigans.

That's where a player steps in and writes a Strix who will use their fancy end-game levels to unite the Strix and find somewhere peaceful for them to settle!

Maybe they could clean out Belkzen and settle the mountains there.

So how does /pfg/ feel about the first party adventure paths?

>>51670197
Yes, unless it's one that makes multiple attacks, in which case no.

>>51670252
Eldritch Scoundrel U Rogue.

>>51670252
What?

>>51670252
Which part of the arcane trickster are you hoping to replicate? Sandman bard does a pretty mediocre imitation of arcane trickster out of the box.

>>51670260

They're excellent skeletons to build a campaign around - hell, some of them even stand on their own!

>>51670269
Why not?

>>51670250
Keep Alchemists and Investigators, and sure.

>>51670250
I don't think there's a good way to make a trapfinder in either, if you consider that to be essential.

>>51670260
Mixed bag. Rise of the Runelords is good, Giantslayer has nothing but decently designed combat, Legacy of Fire is meh, Hell's Rebels has no stakes, Wrath of the Righteous is trumpets.

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>>51669254
Why Karn?

I thought they were, like, on the opposite side of the continent?

How can they possibly set up a colony in the Eldeen Reaches when Aundair and Breland are in the way?

>>51670260
They're okay but some are offensively easy

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>>51670259
They're pretty perfect as a player race if you're in a game actually set on Golarion, yes. You get the potential to change their fate in post-game, good mechanics and a half-decent set of racial traits and stats.

-2 Cha is suffering tho, and their look is a bit off-putting unless your GM is generous.

>>51670324
That's fair, let me look over the map again, as I hadn't thought that far ahead.

>>51670289
Because Vital Strike says "make one attack at your highest base attack bonus that deals additional damage". At best some interpretations allow it on multi-attack attack actions, just only one gets the benefits of Vital Strike (Greater Weapon of the Chosen has the same wording). I've brought up this issue in SoM before without it really being addressed.

>>51670327
...until those rare points where they become difficult. It's not that often, but if your party's grown complacent (as mine did once), they hit a brick wall where they can only be saved by GM fiat.

>>51670257
>just break the rules
What I'm hearing is that it's dumb as fuck but still necessary?

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>>51670329

>-2 Cha is suffering tho, and their look is a bit off-putting unless your GM is generous.

The worst bit about the look is any attempt to make them look more like our pic relateds will just make the DM wonder why we aren't just playing an Aasimar with Angel Wings.

>>51670270
For better or worse this is pretty much exactly what I was looking for. Thank you.

>>51670414
Because they aren't level 10.

>>51670391
Hmm, I guess. I just remember playing Mummy Mask and the early encounters are just so offensively piss easy I had a hard time sticking with it.

>>51670414
>Aasimar with Angel Wings.
Why aren't you aside from the fact that you're trying to minmax freee goddamn flight while still being a cute fucking waifu.

>>51670329
>>51670414
I find it odd how they've got claws in all their official artwork, but nothing mentioned in any of the racial or descriptive passages.
Off-putting can be fine for a look, just gotta make it work for ya. Black wings, onyx skin, sharp featured and lithe. Just enough to be a little uncanny but still obviously inhuman and not celestial.