/swg/ Shipfag-Approved-Space-Combat Edition

>>51596398
>Not Corellian sky penis edition

>>51596450
>Not Corellian sky penis edition
It's times like these that make me wish for the ability to edit old posts, but then it wouldn't be 4chan.

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Third for Mongo Beefhead Tribesmen.

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Just think... some people in this thread believe that diplomats have no place in Star Wars!

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How would you stat Clone Trooper armor as opposed to Stormtrooper armor in FFRPG?

>>51596778
What makes you think it would be any different?

>>51596778
Heavy battle armour if you think the differentiation means anything, laminate if you don't.

>>51596778
Laminate with some equipment/gear variations I think. I think most gear is the same, certainly the utility belts with the rappel lines and such.

>>51596778
Clone Troopers are just Stormtroopers of the prequels. From a mechanical standpoint, leave them the same.

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>>51596719
Funny how she never did a single diplomatic thing in the entirety of Star WARS dumbass. This is a setting for fighting/smugglin/flying/and hunting not for senators and politics and shit.

>>51596812
>>51596936
In Rebels, Rex credits his survivability to his old Clone armor over the inferior new stuff.

>>51597141
It's really quite impossible to distinguish that from any other "back in my day" grumble.

>>51597141
>>51597173
It's also useless to have a difference in the tabletop game. You can still fluff it as if it's better, but you want clones and stormtroopers dying at about the rate of plot anyway.

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>>51597086
>dares to tell me what doesn't belong in Star Wars
Okay... then my waifu.

Forged in Battle has Imperial Storm Commando Armor. I planned to have a squad of them harass my players. I know for a fact that one of them will try to even the odds a bit by tracking down Republic Commando armor. I want to be prepared for this by having the stats for both.

>>51596398
X-wing rules question

2 TIE swarms are shooting at eachother, both PS4 with Howlrunner.

The squad with initiative shoots and kills Howlrunner.

I'd howlrunner removed before or after the squad that doesn't have initiative shoots?(Does she still give the rerolls)

To the guy who was asking about integrated holsters a few threads back.

Hard points: 2 increases encumbrance by 4, store 2 weapons of encumbrance 3 or lower in armor, while stored negate encumbrance.

Mods: 2 add black to perception to find checks, 3 additional weapon, 1 quick draw talent mod.

>>51597486
Herschlag was shit and guess what her best parts involved wearing tights and firing a blaster not being a boring ass diplomat.

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>>51596719
Yeah I know right. I bet all those guys whose favorite character is bail organa or Duchess Satine is super pissed about now.

>>51597732
The exact wording of simultaneous attack rule is:
> all ships with a pilot skill value equal to the active ship have the opportunity to attack before being destroyed. If a ship would be destroyed and it has the same pilot skill value as the active ship but has not had an opportunity to attack yet, it is not destroyed.

Since Howlrunner does not have the same PS, I interpret this as him being removed as usual and not giving the re-rolls. Which is odd and kinda goes against the spirit of the rule (in a friendly casual game I'd allow him to stay), but I guess exact wording count more in official play.

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>>51598123

>him

>>51598179
Huh, didn't know that.

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Just think, some people in this thread believe that diplomats have no place in Star Wars

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>>51598187
Now if only they made Howlrunner a pilot for an actual Howlrunner.

>>51598248
That thing looks like an iClicker with wings.

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Just got the book in. Anyone want a quick rundown?

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>>51598273
That's what you get when all of Incom's best designers defect to go form Frei-Tek.

>>51597486
The prequels gave us George Lucas' greatest gift: absolute proof that Natalie Portman is a bad actress. The downside is she doesn't get cast much any more despite being hot.

>>51598276
>Anyone want a quick rundown?
What kind of question is that? Of course we do.

>>51598277
What do Toydarians have to do with galactic diplomacy?

>>51598276
Yes please.

>>51598276
How are the modifications looking? The armour's been floating around for a while but no word on the attachments.

Also good work Anon

>>51598276
start scanning that thing

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>>51598306
Funnily enough, I have a player making a Toydarian merchant for an upcoming game.

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>>51598299
>rothschilds bow to the Bogdanoffs
>in contact with aliens
>rumoured to possess psychic abilities
>control france with an iron fist
>own castles and banks all over the world
>direct descendants of the ancient royal blood line
>will bankroll the first cities on Mars (Bogdangrad will be be the first city)
>own basically every DNA editing research facility on Earth
>first designer babies will be Bogdanoff Babies
>both brothers said to have 200+ IQ
>ancient Indian scriptures tell of two angels who will descend upon the Earth and will bring an era of enlightenment and unprecedented technological progress with them
>These are the Bogdanoff twins
>They own Nanobot R&D labs around the world
>You likely have Bogdabots inside you right now
>The Bogdanoffs are in regular communication with the Archangels Michael and Gabriel, forwarding the word of God to the Orthodox Church
>They learned fluent French in under a week
>Nation states entrust their gold reserves with the twins. There's no gold in Ft. Knox, only Ft. Bogdanoff
>The twins are 67 years old, from the space-time reference point of the base human.
>In reality, they are timeless beings existing in all points of time and space from the big bang to the end of the universe
>The Bogdanoffs will guide humanity into a new age of wisdom, peace and love

>>51598276
>quick rundown
Bogdanoffs bow to the Hutts

But seriously, I would love a picture of the Operator page.

>>51598334
>>51598336
Bogmind

>>51598026

Bail a true bro

>>51598299
Need to look at specializations a little more, new blasters are a sniper rifle and a riot gun, grapple gun also stated as well as a new flame projector, wrist rockets exist now as well as a mini rocket pistol, there is a repulsor cannon (seems interesting), stun baton and ion baton, armored drop suit, hunter's trophy armor, fucking mando armor, marked-target lock, shock attachment to melee and brawl, under-barrel rocket launcher, integrated holsters, rocket launcher armor attachment, repulsor field dor armor, tracking system, rocket boots, scanning and tracking gear, new stimpack, ig-88s ship, mando fighter, 2 pirate fighters, lancer-class pursuit craft, YV-666, New Goznati, space mines, ship prisons, bounty hunter investigation advantage chart and typical bounty prices and augments to prices depending on characteristics of the hunt, and bounty hunter exploits that act similar to the battle scar system from forged in battle.

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>>51598357
The call that saved LucasArts

>>51598276
I can't ignore Bobas weird pose on the cover. He's almost sticking his foot into the jetpack exhaust.

>>51598372
What are the specialization skills for the Operator, if you don't mind?

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>>51598334
I still don't get it. Can you give us a basic gestalt?

>>51598312
Integral holsters (posted above), Micro rocket launcher (self explanatory), repulsor assisted lifting (bonus encumbrance), Tracking System (roughly analogous to the goggles from EtU)

>>51598402
Astro, Gunnery, Pilot (Ground) Pilot (Space)

>>51598402
Let me charge my old camera and walk my dog. My phone camera is shit and i dont want to post blurry pictures

>>51598405
>Bogdanoffs bow to the Hutts
>in contact with aliens
>rumoured to possess psychic abilities
>control tattooine with an iron fist
>own spaceports and banks all over the galaxy
>direct descendants of the ancient sith blood line
>will bankroll the first spice dens in Hutt space (Nal Hutta will be be the first city)
>own basically every DNA editing research facility on Kamino
>first military clones will be Hutt Babies
>both brothers said to have 200+ IQ
>ancient Jedi scriptures tell of two angels who will descend upon Coruscant and will bring an era of enlightenment and unprecedented technological progress with them
>These are the Hutts
>They own Kuat Systems Engineering labs around the galaxy
>You likely have TIE fighters inside you right now
>The Hutts are in regular communication with the Jedi Masters Yoda and Obi-Wan, forwarding the word of the Force to the Rebel Alliance
>They learned fluent Bocce in under a week
>The Trade Federation entrusts their credit reserves with the Hutts. There's no credits in Muun, only Tattooine
>The twins are 670 years old, from the space-time reference point of the base Corellian
>In reality, they are timeless beings existing in all points of time and space from the big bang to the end of the universe
>The Hutts will guide the Republic into a new age of wisdom, peace and love

>>51598429
>>51598445
Thanks guys.

For fuck sake I just want a pilot spec that gets Melee and ranged light

>>51598518
Why would a pilot spec have those?

>>51598543
Jousting?

is Sabine a dexfag?

>>51598543
>For fuck sake I just want a pilot spec that gets Melee and ranged light
No-rules Podracing.

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>>51598543
You ever have one of those days where every motherfucker keeps trying to board you?

>>51598543
I can't think of a logical reason, I just want to play a pilot that likes smacking people around instead of shooting them. I don't really get why Bounty Hunters get both piloting skills but not melee.

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>>51598618
>I can't think of a logical reason
You will when Han Solo tries hijacking your ride.

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>>51598496
>You likely have TIE fighters inside you right now

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>>51598543

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>>51598647
Fetch me a drafting board, some lesai and a VHS copy of Innerspace!

We have work to do!

>>51598543
Podracing. That guy is Jake Lloyd.

>>51596296

Because wars don't involve politics or treaties, right?

>>51598810
That shit happens offscreen in good Star Wars movies dumbass

>>51598922
>everything has to be exactly like the movies
You're dumb. A political campaign would work fantastically in the Starwars universe in pretty much any period. A campaign based around growing the rebel allance via diplomacy and assassination would be loads of fun.

My current party is 50% diplomats (of one sort or the other) and it works fantastically.

Anyone got a GR-75 Deckplan?

>>51599005

They have decks? Plural?

>>51598981
Sounds completely boring and lame as shit nor does it fit the Star Wars aesthetic.

>>51599059
They will for what I'm planning.

>>51599105
Well, you're allowed to have your opinions, regardless of how wrong they may seem to me or anyone else.

This is probably the wrong place to ask this, but I don't really know where else I could turn.

Having recently completed a short campaign of Heroes of Arturi Cluster, I re-installed X-Wing Alliance and have now tried creating a custom mission for it. So far I have gotten most things working through trial and error (and the AlliEd's manual), but I have run into a problem with hypering between regions. When the ships hyper into a new region they seem to always hyper in at coordinates 0, 0, 0, instead of arriving at the nav beacon. The final waypoint of the Hyper to Region command seems to set the entry point, but none of the waypoints seems to set the exit point. Since the 0, 0, 0 coordinates seem like a default value I think I'm probably not inputting an exit point, but I can't figure out how it is set.

I am using the AlliEd for mission editing, if that is relevant.

Is there a way to export character sheets from OggDude's generator as PDFs that I'm not seeing?

>>51599295
Download a program called CutePDF, print, and use that as the printer. Wait a few seconds, and it'll generate a PDF instead of printing.

So My AoR PCs need to go to Byss, so far they've nearly killed themselves well, most of them, one decided it would be best to get what he needed and ditch the rest of the party when shit hit the fan rather than go help getting the means to reach Byss, both Byss's specific coordinates and an astrogation program that should, in theory, allow them to go anywhere in the deep core with as much ease as travelling anywhere else in the known Galaxy. But is there anything else they should be doing to prepare before going off? I assume Byss's security is such that dropping into Byss's orbit just out of the blue will get them shot on sight. Any ideas on what else they should be doing first?

>>51599522
It's practically like Endor, have them steal a shuttle and some clearance codes

>>51598276

Operator stuff plz, and maybe the backgrounds?

>>51599562
No, no. Not a shuttle. Byss is a whole planet, much like Coruscant - the logistics must be insane. Yes, there are clearance codes and customs and passes to get your ship to the surface, but a shuttle isn't necessary. The thing about poetry is that it RHYMES. It isn't just the same word over and over, it's a similar one.

So skip the shuttle, have them instead commandeer a ship importing drinking water or grain.

>>51599137
Should of just left it at "seems to me" since I doubt anyone else gives a shit about diplomats and shit in Star WARS.

>>51599854
Obviously enough people care about having a party face that the class made it though focus testing.

>>51599854
>Stop liking what I don't like!

Sure there's probably gonna be some guns involved at some point but intrigue is a huge part of Star Wars, both in at least half the films and also a wide variety of other sources.

In X-wing now, is there a counter to mindlink? looking at tournament reports, i see nothing but Mindlink, Shadowcasters, and Dengaroo everywhere.

Does empire have a way to deal with Asajj+Fenn+Manaroo with a tie swarm? Does any epire list have a solid answer to it?

>>51599854
>guy you're arguing with concedes
>continue pressing it and acting like a massive fagmeister

>>51596398
What was /tg/'s favorite ship? Legends counts as well for this.

>>51600295
Mine is the Viscount. tl;dr mon cal bariant of the death star.

>>51600295
Fightercraft:
>X-Wing or Cloakshape

Freighter:
>Loronar Explorer or Citadel freighter

Capital/Cruiser:
>CR90

>>51600295
>What was /tg/'s favorite ship?
YT-2000

>Legends counts as well for this.
>Implying it wouldn't.

>>51597141
And yet clones go down just as fast as stormies. Filoni is just a big cloneboo.

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>>51600295
Best girl all year, every year since 1977.

>>51600730
Pretty much this. Both. Clone Wars and rebels are extremely mook heavy in general. It will be amazing if any of Phoenix squadron survives to join red or blue

>>51600119
Stress givers I guess, though it's not like any of those ships struggle for green move options and they'll still all get focus if you only get a single stress on any of them. For Rebels that means probably a Y-wing with R3-A2 and TLT, for Empire probably a crew carrier with rebel captive. For specifically a TIE swarm related solution, anything that disallows or bypasses dice modification I guess like Dark Curse, Wampa, Omega Leader and the like.

>>51597086
She made friends with the Ewoks. And she knew Lando was up to something.

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>>51600295
Best-Wing

>>51600295

X-wings are and forever will be best starfighter design.

My favourite capital ship is the Nebulon B, I dont even know why. It's a dumb design but I love it to death. CR90s are a close second.

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>>51600295

Fighter:
>X-wing (Both T-65 and T-70 and probably the T-85 when I see it), honorable mentions to the A-wing, TIE Interceptor, Clawcraft, TIE Defender, and N-1

NEETbox:
> Luxury 3000 with Quadjumper, YT-2000, Zeta class cargo shuttle, and J-type Star Skiff as runners up.

Capital Ships:
>Super Star Destroyer, and then MC80B, Imperial Light Cruiser, Imperial Interdictor, Hapan Battle Dragon, and Resurgent/Finalizer.

>>51598762

>Engineer's Log, fifth(?) day of design

>Latest demand from Sienar HQ has proven utterly insurmountable. The TIE Micron, a starfighter measuring 0.72 by 0.88 nanometers, simply cannot be done.

>The last inspirational visit from the Chief resulted in a series of breakthroughs between sessions of painting his tongue in booster blue and beating the former project leader about the neck and elbows with a hydrospanner full of 13 year old Lutrillian port for "not getting the noise right."

The model prototype is almost complete, but stern insistance that "Recon models must have two pilots. Get two men in there!" has made things overly challenging for R&D to complete the project. The first two pilots suffered grievous injuries from embarkment process which has been made out of the facility's garbage compactor. Conversely, the third floor kitchen is now uninhabitable due to dianoga living among the discarded novajack sachets and other base detritus.

>Being that we have only managed to fit a single pilot thus far into the prototype, and have yet to create an original placement of the TIE panels, it is likely the plan will be cancelled. Rath's dream of picking on Hydrogen molecules for being "Prevalent little bastards" will have to wait a few more years until more efficient means of embarking pilots can be made.

>>51601154
Bogposting leads to Raithposting: memes truly are a reverse Ouroborous if you will, a snake going up its own asshole forever and ever.

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>>51600295
uglies > production ships

>>51600749

>never checked out the writefag link up top since I assumed it would be the average 4chan Imp-wank
>see that name

Yub yub commander.

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>>51601310
Aww yuss.

Hey anons, my friends and I want to try out one of the SW RPGs, and I've heard one's for Rebels, one's for Bounty Hunters and Criminals, and one's for Jedi, right?

>>51601794
Yep.

>>51601794
pretty much, but they can all be mixed and matched

>>51601794
Do you want us to wipe your ass after spoonfeeding you?

>>51601855
>>51601857
If you keep answering such stupid questions this guy will never learn.

>>51601864
That's pretty rude, anon. Go have some tendies and cool off.

>>51601794
So I guess you just decided to skip the OP?

>>51601855
>>51601857
Thanks mates. We took a vote on it and everyone thinks being bounty hunters and/or scum's cool.

Can you tell me how the game works/the basic gist of it?

>>51601915
Nah, I'm not at home right now so I can't download the rulebook.

>>51601918
1d4chan.org/edge of the empire

>>51596778
Regular clone armor? Pretty much the same, though lore-wise I would consider it inferior on account of lacking some of the features of the Imperial models (filters seem less developed).

Commandos and ARCs? Now those guys have some fancy shit.

>>51601952
But that's wrong.
>https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Star_Wars_Roleplaying_Game#Edge_of_the_Empire

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>>51601918
Dude, are you able to feed yourself?

Entitled little shit. Go do your research like a good neckbeard.

>>51602011
No, let me be lazy. :^)

Just download the books m8, it's pretty straight forward. The weird dice may seem daunting at first but they're really simple once you get the hang of them. Like I said, all the classes, gear, and guns are interchangeable across the three systems. The only thing that isn't is the unique mechanic each game has that really sets the tone of the campaign. These mechanics are Duty, Obligation, and Morality. Age of Rebellion uses the Duty mechanic, with represents a specific goal the player is trying to accomplish and rewards the player for working toward that duty. Edge of the Empire uses the Obligation mechanic which represents something from the player's past or a personal vice, unlike Duty players are penalized for not fulfilling their obligation. Force and Destiny uses the Morality mechanic which is pretty much what it sounds like, a light/dark scale players move up and down on depending on what they do. Aside from these things, all the rules are the same across all three systems and the unique mechanics aren't generally used together.

>>51596398
What does /swg/ think of Quinlan Vos?

>>51596398
Duchess is a shitload of fun in X-wing, but i'm unable to find a pair of ships to fly her with.

I'd prefer symmetrical or at least same-PS/dial ships.

Do any of you have and ideas? Maybe Vessery and a glaive with juke?

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>>51602159

Any pics of that private detective specialization from No Disintegrations?

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Let's talk about antagonist design, the Force, and gameplay.

I’ve never liked the idea of “Force Powers”. It makes the concept feel mundane and mechanical. Ooh, now I can cast Force Lightning Level Three for an extra d6 of damage. Hey, I’ve gained a +10 to Mind Tricks against Stormtroopers. It’s fine for video games, but RPGs can do better, in my opinion. Your mileage may vary.

How can we make a Force-using character flavourful without powers? We give them Ways.

Every Force User has their own Way. Obi-Wan’s Way involves trickery, confidence, and lies. Vader’s Way involves brutal, crushing strikes, choking, and strength. The Emperor’s Way involves cruelty and deliberate displays of power, including using prophecy for his own amusement. You assemble your own Way naturally. It’s a combination of fighting style, problem solving, and fashion. It's great for story inspiration and character/villain design.

Three more notes:

All Force Users sense the lives and feelings of others.

The list of Ways is designed for Dark Side users. Inquisitors, to be specific. You can build light side ones too, but they aren't

Inquisitors in my game do not use lightsabers, unless they are former Jedi.

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>>51602374
The Pushing Way.

The Inquisitor reaches out with a gloved hand and deflects blaster bolts. They smash into the ground in front of it, as if suddenly gaining mass, or arc off to the sides as if repelled a magnet. When attacking the PCs, the Inquisitor will constantly seek to push them backwards, driving them against walls or into dead ends. The Inquisitor attacks by tearing down a wall, or by walking towards an isolated PC. They are rarely more than a few steps behind the PCs.

The Inquisitor tempts by forcing a PC to commit an act they know is unjust. They try to push them towards decisions based on hate and fear. It’s not temptation so much as forcing a PC to do something, then leaving them to mull over the consequences.

Weapons are pistols, or the Force. The Inquisitor might hurl a lightning bolt at you.


The Way of the Hunter

The Inquisitor does not want to be attacked. They will patiently watch their target from a distance. They will use tricks to lure the target to them. They will strike only once. If cornered, they can vanish from sight. If the Inquisitor has something you once owned, or your blood, they always know your emotional state.

The Inquisitor will tempt you by killing those around you, or putting you in a trap. They do not see you as an equal and will not engage in philosophical discussions. Either you evolve and reach their level, or you die.

Weapons are a hunting rifle, a few smaller weapons, knives, surprise, planning, and range.

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>>51602419
The Way of the Jedi

This is an old-school path. The Inquisitor fights like a duellist. They select a target and approach, expecting counter attacks. They can deflect blaster bolts with their lightsaber, or throw the lightsaber and retrieve it. They will duel anyone similarly armed, and slaughter anyone who isn’t prepared.

Strangely, ex-Jedi fight with a certain degree of honour. Their opponents are given a chance, a relic from a more civilized age. They may even be spared if they surrender. Many ex-Jedi are accompanied by stormtrooper squads, who lay down covering fire as the Inquisitor advances.

An ex-Jedi will make philosophical arguments, and often is the most dangerous foe to strongly moral or clever PCs.

Weapons are a lightsaber and some indirect Force attacks, mostly around terrain control or forcing an enemy to approach.


The Way of the Beast

The Beast forsakes all knowledge of good and evil. They only know that they like the sound a force-sensitive brain makes between their teeth. The Beast fights without mercy or honour, but it is not mindless, and will retreat or set traps. Like the Hunter, the Beast will track you through the Force, but only to get close. It prefers to strike suddenly, revelling in the fear it causes.

The Beast does not tempt you directly, but perhaps to combat it you will become like it.

The Beast fights with whatever weapons it feels are suitable to the task. It bludgeons and pins with the Force, or drags its prey closer.

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>>51602428
The Way of the Life-Eater

The Inquisitor can steal life. With a wave, they can put a man to sleep. They can drain the strength from your limbs until you can’t stand or even crawl. They can’t kill with this power, but they will happily watch you drown in a shallow puddle or crash your starship. Weakness, slowness, and helplessness are the powers of the life-eater.

This stolen life sustains them and revitalizes their decaying flesh. They will tempt you with immortality, or slaughter your friends in front of you, daring you to tap into your hate and rage and throw off their domination.

You might recover from an encounter with a life-eater, but anything more than a brief encounter could wither you forever.

A life-eater uses no weapons except the Force.

The Way of the Tormentor

The Inquisitor loves to inflict pain and madness. They will feed you false visions, nightmares, or lies. They fight by inflicting pain directly through the Force. This is a sort of mind trick – the pain is an illusion, and can be completely disregarded by the strong-minded. This is a Tormentor’s greatest fear, and they only inflict pain directly when a target has already been harried, distracted, or tortured.

The Inquisitor will tempt you by promising to remove pain, or by threatening those you love. The threats are all the more powerful when you know the agonies your loved ones will face, having experienced a small measure yourself.

Weapons are knives, needles, or anything that inhibits mobility, causes hallucinations, or spreads panic and fire.

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>>51602444
The Way of the Seer

The Force can provide visions. The Inquisitor has dedicated their entire life to understanding and manipulating these vision and prophecies. The Inquisitor never fights directly, but lures the PCs into a situation where the outcomes are controllable. The fewer options their target has, the easier the future is to see. Heightened emotions also help bring clarity to a vision. Expect mazes and jump scares. The maze inevitably leads to the defeat of the PCs, unless they break the pattern and do something the Inquisitor – and the GM – could not have foreseen.

The Inquisitor will tempt you with knowledge. They are not unreasonable, but they are arrogant.

Weapons are allies, time, and patience.


The Drawing Way

The Inquisitor seeks to draw their target close, avoiding a long pursuit. They snatch the guns from your hands, the breath from your lungs, your body from the ground, your intention from your mind. Everything slides towards them. They use bait and red herrings to get the PCs to approach. They take hostages, set up fortresses (false or real), make maps, send rumours, and employ traitors.

The Inquisitor may tempt you into thinking you can escape, or they may rely on personally crafted temptations, customized for each target.

Weapons are the Force, pistols, and capture. Expect the walls to come down and floodlights to come up.

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>>51602419
Your ideas are lame for a couple of major reasons. One what people can do with force is not unique per person. Two force techniques if you don't like force "powers" can be taught and learned like any other martial art so of course the techniques would have names. Three you seem to be trying to force your own classes on the star wars characters except using your own OC names.

>>51601082

comfy

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>>51600295
AIAT/i is best girl

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>>51602472
>One what people can do with force is not unique per person.

Absolutely! I'm not trying to say that at all. But everyone has their own preferred thematic style.
At least, villains in Space Opera seem to have one.

>Three you seem to be trying to force your own classes on the star wars characters

These aren't classes. They're guys. They are individual, unique villain ideas, not classes like "smuggler". You could replace "the Inquisitor" in each entry with a name and it would work perfectly.

People seem to have trouble coming up with Inquisitor ideas. This lists a bunch.

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The Dominating Way

The Inquisitor desires control above all else. They will freeze a blaster bolt in mid air, or pin you helplessly against a wall, or stop a vehicle dead in its tracks. More commonly, they seek to control the mind or body of an enemy. They dominate your allies and turn them on their target. They revel in command, in costumes and honours.

They do not tempt, unless it is to accept crawling, servile submission. They force their worldview into your mind and make you their own creature.

Weapons are those close to their target, as well as a few mundane tricks.


The Way of Annihilation

The Inquisitor does not tempt, capture, or maim. They exterminate. They will use the largest and most potent weapons they possess to erase their targets from existence. They might bombard a settlement to kill a rumour, or use a rocket launcher on an unarmoured target. Fiery, messy violence is their delight. They rarely use allies, unless it’s to form a perimeter or flush out their target. The Inquisitor might even use a personal starfighter or battle tank.

They use the Force like a hammer, smashing their target into pulp, squeezing them until the burst, or for the most ancient and dangerous, annihilating them utterly with a contemptuous gesture.

Weapons are the best and largest available, used without restraint.

>>51602452
>>51602444
>>51602428
>>51602419
>>51602374
>>51602542

There's some decent ideas in here for customizing antagonists' fighting styles, but something is lost with each one being generalized into a "Way." I'd be interested in individuals who prefer certain methods, their quirks, and what makes them tick.

Trying to reinvent the wheel by developing power classes/archetypes and calling them techniques or whatever, because it's different and feels less video game-y, feels akin to masturbation.

Inquisitor anon forgetting that Sheev never trains them to level anywhere near the competence his "his ways" displays.

>>51602630
It's more of a shorthand for GMs. You can go "Oh, this guy takes the Dominating Way. What would his lair look like? How does he dress? What choices can I make to reinforce that?"

And, of course, questions like "How did he get like this?"

The problem that I've seen is that Inquisitors tend to turn out... very samey. This is a quick way to add variety.

Not trying to reinvent the wheel. Just trying to find something to do with the wheel.

>>51602637
This. They're not Sith, they're barely trained in the Dark Side. Inky's the exception to the rule because he was already a Jedi before the purge

>>51602637
I miss Jerec.

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>>51602637
Well, yes.

But since this is your game, you can decide what "his" level of competence was.

In order to make an Inquisitor challenging for PCs, they have to be smart and sufficiently powerful. Two half-trained Jedi should have a hell of a time beating one, especially if the Inquisitor has set up the encounter to their liking, and has escape routes planned if things go awry.

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>>51602699
So do I. I mean who would of thought Jack Nicholson would make such a great villian?

>>51602743
>who would of thought Jack Nicholson would make such a great villian
Stanley Kubrick?

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>>51602726
To add to this, we never see Vader or Sheev ever cut loose in the OT. Their fights are more about posturing and making a point than actual combats between equals, to the death.

So from the films alone, we have no idea how powerful they /really/ are when it comes to Force techniques.

As for Rebels canon Inquisitors... remember that they are written for a TV show ostensibly aimed at kids, and with a certain tone and style in mind. You can write your own. They can be very, very different.

>>51602211
You could do

Duchess (VI, AA, LF)-26
Glaive (/x7, Juke, (Choice of Hull or Stealth))-37
Glaive (/x7, Juke, (Choice of Hull or Stealth))-37

The question here is-

Hull or Stealth Device? Both cost the same, and it is a packing a focus+evade almost every round.

Should I be more scared of homing missiles and massive attacks or bombs and autoblasters in this meta?

>>51602668
So whats the difference from just having the enemy inquisitor with force stasis and dominate? I don't see how your idea is any better than what is already presented in the book

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>>51602743
I, too, miss Jerec.

>I killed your father! I killed Rahn! I have murdered thousands, and do you know that my only regret is that I could not see their blood?

>>51602954
It isn't. He just likes it better because the word "power" following the word "Force" triggers him.

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>>51602954
One, this is systems-indifferent. If that's how you want to stat up an Inquisitor in the book, sure. The idea is to make you think "How would I stat up this guy, and how would he act?"

>>51602987

If you really want to phrase it like that, the Ways are more like "Here is a guy, with a force power collection, plus a method, plus some other hooks".

>>51600295

The YT-1000 has really grown on me.

>>51601889
>reeeeeeee stop helping people

People who cry and screech about muh spoonfeeding are no better than the original asker.

>>51601918
Proprietary dice, with success (whether you succeed), advantage (bonus goodies), triumph (mega goodies). You roll your attributes/skill in a pool with opposed dice and opposite faces cancel. It's more narrative than crunchy.

While I don't have a problem with helping new folk out, you really will learn more by googling/independently reading up first and then asking more specific questions.

>>51602122
This is a very good post.

>>51602374
For my Force villains, I only default to rule limitations when it directly affects the players. Otherwise, it's what works narratively.

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>>51601082
NEETbox ships are best ships.
Just all alone in a two-seat freighter, copilot seat covered in ration wrappers and pornography magazines.

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>>51603353
>Otherwise, it's what works narrative.

This is a very good plan.

My stats for Vader are "Vader inflicts one Consequence per round of combat on all PCs he can reach (Mild/Moderate/Severe/Extreme)"

Unless you were wounded going into the fight, you have one round to escape without much more than a scare. Moderate consequences are inconvenient, but you'll live. Major consequences are bad - really, really bad, but you will probably live (with a shiny hand). Extreme will leave you permanently crippled, a shattered husk, or dead.

4 rounds of combat with Vader kill everyone, or leave them as good as dead.

Does it matter how? No. Lightsaber, choking, throwing you into the wall, snapping your neck, stopping your heart, or hitting you with a reflected blaster bolt. Doesn't matter. Run, or stay to buy your friends time to escape.

>>51603469
Vader is the Cthulhu of the system: eh kills 1d4 players per round and doesn't afraid of anything.

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>>51603433
Should've seen what Punishing One looked like before Manaroo took a mop to it.

Wall-to-wall carpeting made from old Hardee's bags.

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>>51603523
Pretty much. I did originally have "1d6 characters per round" as a guideline, but the stacking consequences work better, and give more interesting narration.

He's basically a terrain hazard.

>>51599124

Check out the Otherspace adventure module from the WEG days.

http://d6holocron.com/downloads/books/WEG40018.pdf

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>>51599005
Some info here: http://www.roleplayerguild.com/topics/157655-star-wars-scavs/ooc

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So does anyone have any advice on how to deal with systems strain recovery on capital ships? The idea is each person performing a check can repair only one SS each check, but I have no idea how this works in the face of dozens or even hundreds of engineer mooks.

Or for that matter, what the dice pool for a capital ship engineering team would look like in general? Is there any reason they wouldn't be rolling max dice pools and fixing all critical damage to the ship the next turn after?

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>>51603851
You might want to look at Rogue Trader's abstracted component repair rules.

Each guy isn't making a roll. One aggregate roll is being made, probably by an "average" mook.

The results should be modified accordingly.

>>51603851
Just go with the stats of the Chief Engineer - a capital ship has a larger crew but also a lot more to fix.
It's up to the chief engineer to make a call on what needs fixing most, so he's the one directing the flow and focus of repairs.
It's imperfect, but probably the simplest way.

>>51602122
New GM here trying to learn the rules. So is there no way to mix the unique mechanics together? I'm used to playing DnD where it wouldn't matter too much if you mixed shit together.

>>51603963
You sorta can, but like I said they really set the tone of the game. Morality is probably the easiest to combine with others and all FnD classes should be required to use it regardless of what sort of game the character is in.

>>51603963
You can absolutely mix them, there's even recommendations for it in the books.

Most people use Morality for all Force Sensitive characters regardless of which line they're running, although Morality doesn't make a ton of sense for mundane characters. Duty's pretty exclusive to military campaigns, but you could easily mix it with Obligation if you're like, a group of spacer scum working for the Rebellion.

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>>51603921
>>51603945
Oh, so it's a relative thing. The engineer swarms can be seen as a requirement to perform the check in any sort of timely fashion that means something for combat. Cool, so this should be fine save maybe letting capital ship strain repair heal more than one SS a shot.

Thanks /tg/!

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>>51603851
What I would do with a trained damage control crew of minion group is give them two talents- Fine Tuning and Solid Repairs talents and allow 1 SS per success on their roll (which isn't exactly the RAR of the talent, but its not too much of a stretch for a cap ship crew) if that seems a bit much you could throw in a petty officer or engineer (PC for some cases) leading them who has the talents and he does the yelling while they do the fixing.

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Are we still posting favorite fighters? My pic is from a fighter I loved as a child and forgot all about till now reading through the Guardian FnD book.

>>51602840
>Their fights are more about posturing and making a point than actual combats between equals, to the death.
I'd disagree.
In ANH obi-wan was definitely fighting to hold off vader as best he can. Sure he eventually finds the best way to do that is surrender to death, but he's fighting as best he can until that point.

In RotJ they cut loose. Imho vader might have started posturing, be he loses to Luke despite using his full power. Sheev is meaning to use his full power, because he sure as fuck doesn't want to be thrown to his death.

It looks kinda stilted and awkward fights, because lucas and the actors didn't have the techniques to have a full speed fight.

>>51604094
If the ship takes enough damage that it's reasonably lost some crew, you can add setbacks - if it's an elite ship with good crew, add bonuses.

>>51604120
Yeah I agree. Had Lucas made those movies today you could be sure that the combat would have been much faster and more fluid.

>>51598496
>Not 200+ Midichlorian Count

So close.

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>>51604094
Exactly. Any number of NPCs can be abstracted via one roll, provided the effects of that roll are appropriately scaled.

>>51604110

Pretty saxy ship desu, the book didn't give us art of the Blade-32 which wounded me

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>>51604120
In ANH, Obi-Wan keeps Vader busy in a very clever way. He could do more spins and tricks (even given the limited CGI of the time), but he doesn't. He'll immediately lose a straight-up fight, but as long as he has Vader's attention, and his curiosity, he'll live and acomplish his goal. Therefore, Vader's not going to hurry to kill him.

In RoTJ, Vader is conflicted, but it's a close fight even then. He's not sure whether or not to pull back or let loose. And Luke only goes to full strength for a few moments.

Sheev is just being a crazy old sorcerer and hurting people because it's fun. He says "you will die", but he wants the death to be deliciously slow and lingering. Why use your full power when your prey is helpless, if the goal is to enjoy yourself?

>>51604120
Plus they're all old bastards well past their prime, little more cunning, bit more cranky but ultimately you've got Obi who's old, Palps who's really fucking old and Anakin who's mostly clunky cybernetic prosthetics running on half a lung.

>>51604234
or you can just imagine that the fights looked cooler, instead of trying to make the lore fit the limitation of the actors and special effects.

Vader kicks more ass in Rogue One because film makers could do that. Just imagine that much coolness in the later fight scenes.

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>>51604158
It might make it feel less like a samurai film and more like a wuxia film, which could potentially be a great loss.

The seizure-saber fights of the prequels had a lot of flash but no heart.

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>>51604226
>Blade-32
Based on the description in Starfighters of Adumar, it seems like it would closely resemble a pointier Northrop Black Widow or a pointier De Havilland Vampire with space for a rear gunner.

>>51604277
there is a middle ground.
Or even just the old ground but a little smoother. Rogue One vader scene showed him kicking ass, moving faster and more fluidly, but no bouncing around like an idiot.

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>>51604276
Vader kicks more ass in Rogue One because he's properly unleashed. He doesn't have a secondary agenda. He's not fighting his old mentor or his own son.

He's just removing obstacles. Sweeping them aside.

And if he can do that, imagine what an Inquisitor he trained could do, even if they have a fraction of that raw, intense power.

>>51604322
sure, technical constraints had nothing to do with it.
Vader's head passing through the shuttle wasn't a clipping issue with the mat painting, but showing the Vader can turn incorporeal if he wants to.
Luke's foot clearly passing in front of guard isn't a technical error, but shows that Luke had mastered force kick.

>>51600295
>Fighter
Arc-170

>Freighter
Aurore class

>Capital ship
Recusant class Destroyer.

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>>51604408
Well.. that too. Technical constraints played into it a fair bit, I'm sure, but there's still more than one aspect.

But I'm sure that if Lucas said, "Let's have a massive, Flynn-style swordfight in ANH!" someone would have talked him out of it for plot reasons.

Later... maybe not so much.

Also, nice obsession over technical glitches, btw. That's some high-grade citation porn.

>>51604104
>>51604145
I like both of these ideas very much, I shall throw them both into the house mix I think.

>>51604185
Makes sense considering how a lot of game systems abstract mass-combat to a modded leadership roll.

Speaking of mass combat, could anyone tell me if any of the supplements go deeper into running such things beyond the minion horde rules? I didn't find anything in the EotE splats I have, but I don't have any of the AoR ones that might be more likely to.

>>51604458
i just listed the shit that gets posted on these threads, to make you finally admit that some shit in the OT was because of technical constraints.
Why should I accept your head canon about why the fights were slow and awkward, when technical constraints are a sufficient explanation?

>>51604486
Commander AoR book has more info on mass combat between armies and spacebattles and shit.

>>51604551
Careful he is probably a red letter media autist. I'd hate to get one of them riled up.

>>51604431
>Recusant class destroyers

Man I fucking love those things

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>>51604551
Because this is a board about telling stories, and I'll always prefer a story explanation over a technical one, even if both are true.

The "most true" explanation, for the purposes of telling stories or writing games, is the most interesting one. At least it ought to be. Choosing less interesting explanations leads to dead-end story hooks.

I mean, why does Obi-Wan let Luke keep his father's name, and live with his family? Is it because George didn't think the idea through? Or is there a more interesting explanation out there?

Pick explanations that are fit to purpose.

>>51604631
No, this board is for games. That's why it's called "/tg/ - traditional games" and not "collaborative storytelling."

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>>51604583
Sorry to disappoint, but I don't know much about those people.

>>51604568
Thanks!

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>>51604644
Fair enough. I guess this is also the thread/board for non-story based games like X-Wing or Armada or whatever... but since this discussion doesn't matter to them at all, it seems like that's a weird point to bring up.

I mean, it's not like in the thread about optimal dice sales and balance, people say "Hey, there are diceless games on this board too!"*

If we're talking about storytelling, this is as god a place as any.
*Ok, they do, but that's because /tg/ is a bunch of argumentative assoles.

>>51604644
But collaborative storytelling is a traditional game.

>>51604631
>The "most true" explanation, for the purposes of telling stories or writing games, is the most interesting one.
an interesting idea, but there is a problem.
It changes the motives of the characters in ways that makes them more pathetic.
If the reason that Sheev and Vader don't look as look as I'd like to imagine them isn't because they couldn't make them look that cool, but because they were never going to act that cool, then I can't use my imagination to make them doing cooler things.

See, I find it weird you're applying your imagination to fuck with the plot and keep things stilted and awkward, when you could use your imagination to make the fights less stilted and awkward.
That also makes things interesting.

>>51604715
>Board games, paper games, war games, card games
Are you sure? :^)

I don't mind narrativist anon having the views he does or expressing them, I just wish he wouldn't preach about it every day, and I'm not the only one. See >>51589810

>>51604724
I believe that the OT is perfect in everyway shape and form

>>51604317
This is exactly how I pictured it, but minus the wings.

And painted in garish colours.

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>>51604724
I think this has become a personal taste thing. Please don't read the next few lines as anything like an argument (because there's no way to be "wrong" here). I'm just trying to explain what my tastes are.

I like the subtle things. I like that Vader and Obi-Wan pace and test and admit that, yes, times have changed, and neither of us are what we once were. They are having a conversation with swords, not a fight. And it ends when Obi-Wan wants it to end, not a moment before.

Sheev is just fucking delighted to be able to torture a pure, youthful creature in contrast to his own decrepit state. He's a sadist and a monster and he loves every minute of it. He doesn't need to flip around the room or show off his powers. He can get what he wants by sitting down.

I don't think a lack of spectacle makes the characters pathetic. I don't need Darth Vader to crash a Star Destroyer with the power of the Force. I don't need Yoda to be a swordsman. There's more going on here, for me, than epic clashes across CGI terrain, with lots of jumps and spins and flips that accomplish absolutely nothing, story-wise.

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>>51604761
See: >>51589833

There's a bit of writing advice that goes "Write a million words–the absolute best you can write, then throw it all away and bravely turn your back on what you have written. At that point, you’re ready to begin."

This is part of those million words. It's the prep work. This obviously isn't my best work, but it's good training and practice.

And people sometimes find it helpful.

>>51604864
It might be more helpful if you adjusted your verbiage. Instead of making a post every thread claiming "You are wrong. You should be making your game more narrativist, numbers and details don't matter because I say so, canon is what I claim it is regardless of real answers because I say so." you should begin "I prefer to think of it as..." or something comparable.

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>>51604915
I do try to make things a little less than black and white, but people will read motives where there aren't any, because this is /tg/, and nobody's happy and charitable on /tg/ if they can help it.

And if I didn't think the things I suggest were good ideas, I wouldn't suggest them. That's the problem. If I knew of a better idea I'd suggest that instead.

>>51604821
I don't really disagree with most of that.
What I disagree with is extending that to Sheev and Vader NEVER cut loose fully.
Maybe I'd buy in ANH that vader is holding way back, but if you have Sheev die not despite trying his hardest to stop Vader, or have Luke win only because Vader doesn't fight at his fullest. Then you weaken those characters and those moments.

I certainly don't want Sheev flipping around, but I don't want to think that that's Sheev's full power that he just chose not to use. I want Vader and Luke to have been ramping up to finally both cutting loose, and showing how far Luke has come. And that fight would look a little better if they made if flow a little better.
Someone said something about it being a samuari film being better than a wuxia film, and I agree. But Samurai film fights can be a lot faster and smoother than the OT fights, and still look like samurai fights.

>>51598744
that game was my childhood

>click piano, "I don't play"

>>51604951
>nobody's charitable on /tg/ if they can help it.
Have you seen the truly enormous library of free books that are handed around on this board? If /tg/ isn't the most charitable board on the website it's surely a runner up.

>I didn't think the things I suggest were good ideas, I wouldn't suggest them.
Yes, but you present them as though they are the only idea, which would be fine if they had some official backing, but more often than not, your ideas don't.

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>>51604993
So in the duel in RoTJ, there are 2 options.

One: Luke and Vader both hold nothing back. Luke wins.

Two: Luke holds nothing back, but Vader falters. He is conflicted, and he has been ever since the elevator ride. He's losing that unshakable black confidence that sustains him. Luke, in his anger, thinks he's winning by strength and power, but he's really winning through love.

In either case, at the end of the fight, Luke see's Vader's stump of an arm, and it all stops. In option One, this scene is one direction only - Luke's love of his father. But in option Two, it's bi-directional. The transformation flows both ways.

Doesn't matter which answer is "true" either, because it's not about truth. It's about storytelling.

>>51599409
You should read Darth Plagueis if you haven't already.

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>>51605041
>charitable

I guess I meant charitable in a "This person means well, even if I disagree with them" rather than "Ooh, free stuff!" charity.

>you present them as though they are the only idea

Clearly they aren't though. I mean, I have to reply to something... There's plenty of other options to go round, including actual published RPGs.

And I'm pretty clear about my ideas on canon and its uses.

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New scrub-ass X-Wing player here. I wanna upgrade my rebel fleet and I only have an X-wing, B-wing, and A-wing. Please help we can't survive out here in cold space

>>51605182
Do you want to upgrade it to win more or upgrade it to be more fun? If the former, get Heroes of the Resistance, a YT-2400 or a K-wing. If the latter, get an ARC, an HWK and a T-70 of your choice. In either case get a Ghost since it has most of the best crew.

>>51605265
I'd love to say "for fun" but I know I wouldn't have as much fun getting destroyed. So I guess both? I understand thats asking for a lot

>>51605118
I always thought that vader would win a fight to the death against luke

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>>51605408
If Vader had no idea Luke was his son, and had no reason to spare him, it would be over in a few exchanges. No questions. Luke is a farmer. Vader fought in the Clone Wars.

It would be a weird, tragic twist. Vader would probably find out - too late - that he'd killed his son. Maybe he'd seek out Leia to "fix" that mistake and make her his heir.

>>51605408
He ought to. He has decades more training in both the force and saber. It's practically the difference between Windu and a youngling.

>>51605353
How is the E-Wing? As far as effective small ships go, is it any good?

>>51605645
meant for >>51605265

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Horrible Food (for Star Wars).

Stolen shamelessly and adapted badly from http://goblinpunch.blogspot.ca

>Offa
>Stinking brown jelly grown on wet rocks, poisonous until fermented, and fermented in pits. Served in shallow bowls and traditionally eaten with clamshells. Nevertheless a point of cultural pride on Koth.

>Gosca
>Watery gruel made from insect larvae harvested from bog-farms. Bog-farmers are widely considered the most wretched caste of farmers. Even moisture farmers have it better.

>Jo Bread
>Bitter, acidic, and hard as a rock. Manufactured in black discs that look more like construction materials than food. Absolutely inedible unless soaked in water for a few minutes. Families use specialized tea pots to simultaneously boil their tea and soak their jo bread, which is then eaten after the tea is completely drank. Rich people still use jo bread to add bitterness to sweet teas, but the jo bread is then discarded. Deadly to Hutts, as it causes hideous intestinal bloating.

>Horlick
>A soup made from boiling the hair of a garguark, which is sort of like a woolly horse that lays eggs. If made properly, the hair crumbles away and doesn't feel like hair in your mouth. Tastes like cigarettes and wet cats.

>Yeggis
>This is horlick with a garguark egg added in. Actually not that bad. Traditionally served in a leather pouch. If you want to flirt with a Fangolian in a cantina, you don't buy them a drink, you buy them a pouch of yeggis.

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>>51605675
>Zaratan Hatchlings
>The few remaining zaratan (island-sized sea turtles) return to the island of Worthless Zyro every 3 years to lay their eggs. Their eggs are no larger than a normal sea turtle's, but they do lay vast numbers of them. These eggs are promptly dug up by the people of Worthless Zyro and sold for pittances at the Happy Turtle Festival. Eggs are stored in cool basements, and 2 months later, when the eggs hatch, the Joyous Turtle Festival occurs, when all the baby turtles are fried and sold for a penny apiece.

>Blevyek
>Fangolians have bred Blevyek goats for generations, in order to bring out certain traits. These are small, hardy goats that violently vomit out their stomach contents if punched sufficiently hard the kidney. After being fed grass all morning, the goat's vomit is gathered in clay pots, and allowed to sit for 24 hours. (This allows the goat's stomach enzymes to break down the normally undigestable cellulose in grass.) The the grassy vomitus is made into a thick porridge. The goats get their name from the noise they make when vomiting.

>>51605645
Dogshit unless you're using Corran Horn with either R2-D2 or the other shield regen astromech.

Anyone had good luck with the Quadjumper? Would love to know what folks are running with it.

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>>51605675
>>51605708

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>>51605933
But they are local delicacies!

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>>51605675
>Tastes like cigarettes and wet cats.
That can't be good for you. Never (knowingly) eaten cat, but can't imagine they're very tasty

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>>51606071
Cats are jerks, and will frequently bonk into your face just for the joy of it. Most cat owners have a pretty good idea what cat fur tastes like.

>>51606117
Never really gotten along with cats that much, I led a cat holocaust on the farm a few years back and I think they know to make themselves scarce

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>>51606156
What a CATastrophe

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>>51606156
Problem is, they reincarnate. It's a percentile thing. Either the cat uses up a life and keeps going, or it immediately incarnates as a new cat (of similar age) elsewhere.

Chances are good you're being monitored.

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>>51606117
That is an affection thing, they do it with other cats as well.

t. has two cats.

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>>51606180
Feral cats are a real problem here, don't worry I didn't murder anyone's 'Fluffy' pets
But, after they got blown away (along with the pigs, goats and bunnies) a few years ago we started getting bandicoots, tiger quolls, satin bower birds, lyre birds and a whole heap of other little native critters running around the paddocks where there's still some trees and brush for them to live in. Had scientists come out and study them and all.

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>>51606279
Yup. Feral cats are assholes and should be exterminated if possible. Cats are decent indoor pets. One or two sterile animals make OK barn monitors.

But god help you if you get a colony of them.

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>>51606202
They won't like what they're monitoring.
It became a running joke for my brother in law and I to drag out some of the 'ordinance' on them.

>>51606309
They used to eat all the poor fucking parrots here too and I really like the birds we do get around, they'd also chase away most of the quolls (which are a native marsupial cat essentially) and basically murder anything smaller than them. After a few generations of being completely feral they get massive as well, biggest one I ever got rid of was this ginger tom cat who's head was probably close to 5"/12cm across the width and he would have weighed in like a small dog.
Doesn't take long either, within a year you can get dozens of the little bastards running riot

>>51606246
Isnt it also a facial gland thing to mark areas?

>>51606454
Wait, is that the thing from the film version of the Relic?

>>51606279
Straya?

That whole island got fucked by placental mammals. Dingos are now top of the "Native" food chain and cats kill everything smaller.

Sure everything is poisonous and spiders are big enough to open doors, but the fauna is actually quite shit at staying alive.

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>>51606473
No, its the bad kitty from the prequels.
(Who I do like)

>>51606487
Yeah, our megafauna like the roo's and emu's do ok anywhere and isn't under any threat. But the littler critters have a hard time as they're specialists which sort end up in niches to make the most of the harsh climate- plus when you add in apex predators like dogs, cats and foxes, they've simply not evolved to deal with that level of predation. For what predators we do have, the extra competition on prey knocks them out and they're generally not as fecund when it comes to shitting out babies.

I do some culling work about 10-12 times a year and our environment is really taking a beating from them

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>>51602011
If I could draw, I'd do a fusion between the TIE Striker design and the Sith Empire Supremacy/Bloodmark.

>>51606656
But they're the same design

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Just think... some people in this thread believe that diplomats have no place in Star Wars!

>>51599854
Eat a snicker, anon.

Is it too much to make the smuggling mission I send my players on secretly a four way clusterfuck between the empire, rebels, their patron, and the supplier?

>>51597086
18+.

Please have sex.

>>51596719
ANH
>shoots things a lot
ESB
>bicker with han
>shoot things a little
RoJ
>shoot things a whole lot
>wear a metal bikini

she seems more like a direct combatant

>>51607724
Nope. Sounds like a pretty standard game to be honest.

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>>51598922
>>51599105
>>51599854

>>51607262
Of course they do. At the end of a blaster.

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Is the Imperial Remnant still a thing in the nucanon?

For what i've read on the wiki, the New Republic didn't occupy or annex the territories still under imperial hands when the armistice was signed. And the whole "they just went into Unknown Space and dissapeared" sounds retarded.

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>>51608348

>>51608481
In the nucanon, the Empire was 100% defeated once Sheev died

>>51608509
But that's retarded, the Empire after Endor still had thousands of fleets, millions of planets and an infinite surplus of manpower.

I haven't read Aftermath. What the fuck does the Rebel Alliance to take over the galaxy that quickly?

>>51608595
>What the fuck does the Rebel Alliance to take over the galaxy that quickly?
Sell the franchise to someone that loves money more than the setting

>>51608618
There's no in-universe explanation?

>>51608595
the battle of jakku was actually where the empire was defeated, the battle for endor was the turning point of the war

>>51608753
Something along the lines of:
>the Empire continued fighting after Endor, pushed out of the core by the sudden and immediate knowledge that the emperor was dead, in a setting where communication technology is flaky at best.
>without their primary supply base, imperial fleets struggled to manage against alliance fleets that had become used to operating on scraps.
>eventually, the largest imperial fleet was cornered at Jakku and forced into a last stand. After the devastating battle, the Imperial Navy officially signed a surrender and agreed to withdraw into a series of colony worlds in the Unknown region where they founded the Second Imperium.

>>51608595
because disney cares more about selling your 8 year old child kylo ren action figures than anything

Also, interestingly enough, the only things mentioned in the new canon are shit that Disney can sell via toys and legos

But yeah, some WASP's 6 year old daughter doing the gangam style with darth maul at Disney Land parks? Thats canon

Knights of the old republic? Not canon
The Imperial Remnants? Not canon
Jar Jar Bink's and Mickey mouse's adventures in Disneyland? Canon

>>51608481
it's not impossible some of the remnant drama to occur while in unknown space

They could have their civil wars with Imperial admirals trying to take power, and in doing so, causing a lot of chaos, some of which spills into republic territory which would then call upon the involvement of the new republic

but yeah, fuck disney, it seems that they deemed anything from the original eu racist and sexist

>>51608803
>in a setting where communication technology is flaky at best.

Where are you getting that from?
They have instantaneous communication across the galaxy via hypercomm.

>>51601013
That episode's retconing the B-Wing with effectively a mini B5 Shadow weapon that we never ever see again was shit and you know it.

>>51609168

Its okay, that's an experimental weapon that's too expensive and fragile for the production model.

That said, I was bugged by the rebels getting their hands on B and A wings before they seem to have Y or X wings.

>>51608898
Why are you like this

>>51604322
Where is the gif from?

>>51609282
Daicon IV, you owe it to yourself to watch it anon, it's pretty neato and was made by a bunch of the folks who would go on to form Gainax.

>>51609260
Also, Empire just having Interceptors as early as before Yavin.

>>51609333

That, too.

I kinda expect that the theft of the first x-wings will be a large part of a future Rebels plot, though. Probably involving Wedge and Hobbie, I hope.

Plus, since at that point they'll be getting X-Wings after A, Y and B then it seems fair to assume that they're going to go hard on sucking the X-Wing's dick as the best starfighter ever.
Which I'm totally okay with.

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vrooom vrooommm

>>51609399
>repulsorlifts are more reliable than treads
pretty cool

>>51608509
>>51608765

That's dissapointing. Is Aftermath any good?

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>>51609447
>Is Aftermath any good?
Here's an excerpt.

>>51609447
I dunno, i find the rebellion finally doing its job and kicking out the empire to be pretty satisfying

the hard part is seeing them ignore the remnants

>>51607900
>>51607582
>>51608104
Fuck off samefag diplomats are shit and one in a party only purpose is to drag the rest of the party down because the GM has to go out of his way to make the diplomat have a chance to do diplomatic shit.

>>51609562
>Every roleplaying group ever has exactly the same group dynamic and playstyle as my own!

Who is the "Samefag" here exactly?

>>51596398

What sort of writefaggotry is allowed?

So our last session of EotE was a bit of a downer and so I need something of a sillier episode this session.

So what are some shenanigans you can do in Nar Shaddaa?

>>51609650
Drugs. Twi'lek whores. Drugged up Twi'lek whores.

>>51609496
What the fuck

>>51609650
Nar Shaddaa is a mix of space Detroit and space Vegas so there is no limit to the shenanigans

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>>51609762
Chad Wampa is a bad writer and must be stopped. That shitheel somehow got permission to write Wedge's post-Endor story, too, which makes me doubly angry. It should have been Stackpole and Zahn from the very beginning, goddammit.

I hate the new canon for a singular fact. It smacks of doing things for the big fat payday by fans too gullible to think about the product they're buying. It makes the Empire into an edifice that literally required the Emperor to be around or it would collapse, when the old canon noted that yes the Emperor was required to hold it all together, but the whole thing functioned without him. The fact that they're hiring some dweeb who actually got >>51609496 through editing, and by all accounts wrote a book that would make the writers of Jedi Prince wince irritates me. Ultimately, cutting the cruft out is great, but now future writers are locked into the Empire losing a year after Endor, and ultimately losing a lot of storytelling possibility by killing off Luke's Academy. And the joy of three more shoddily directed movies laden with beastie boys references.

>>51609999
>laden with beastie boys references.
I thought the other movies were getting different directors. Isn't the Beastie Boys shit just an Abrams thing?

>>51610025
I was under the impression that Abrams was going to direct the main movies, while other directors did the non numbered films. If that's false, hooray! But I'm still not going to go see them in the theater after TFA.

>>51610025
>>51610070
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2527336/
>Director: Rian Johnson

No idea what to expect of this guy, doesn't have a lot of jobs under his bel by the look of it.

>>51610104
Fair enough. I guess they decided to just use a different director with all their movies then. Maybe that one will be better.

>>51609636
Pretty much anything, except possibly porn. That should probably be left for the /efg/ over in /d/

>>51606688
Similar, but not the same. The Striker's wings are pointier and it doesn't have the section of the wing that folds upwards in flight.

>>51609496
that guy also talks about space diapers a handful of sentences later. And has some other sanfrancisco type dialog.

>>51610104
He did direct two of the best episodes of Breaking Bad.

>>51609509
>>51609509
>I dunno, i find the rebellion finally doing its job and kicking out the empire to be pretty satisfying
But that's dumb, the empire losing is fine but you can't just shoot a leader and they fall apart instantly. He has moffs just for that reason that take over in his death. It should have been the turning point in the war, but an empire that big wouldn't fall in a year's time. That would have been a fight lasting a decade or two at least.

>>51609650
Take inspiration from the Nar Shaddaa level of Jedi Knight II.
Fat unfriendly garbage haulers appropriately named Greedo, Grans staging cockfights with vicious three-legged animals, Rodians in Slavic tracksuits and "Never trust a bartender with bad grammar".

>>51609562
See >>51609562
I am the one telling you to have sex (begging you to, really, you NEED it), but I had to note down posts I didn't catch. The other guy and the seething memer wasn't me.

But yes, different people have different playstyles. Some people don't want to do the exact same 'smuggler crew/gunslingers on the run' routine over and over again. Not saying it's a bad gimmick or that I don't do it, just that variation is good.

And no good SW Movie that had diplomacy and politics? End yourself. TFA is worse than the entire Prequels, and if you think otherwise you're either a deluded vanilla midget nu-fan who is underage or a paid Disney shill. In either case you need to get the fuck back to Pablo's twitter.

You're probably one of those people that support Plinkett's review that TFA was better than Rogue One. Reminder that you need to be over 18 to post on 4chan. Evolution just passed you by.

>>51600966
She made friends with ewoks, but it didn't change anything for anyone but herself. It was Luke and c3p0 working together that saved them from being eaten.

>And she knew Lando was up to something.
Not trusting people is not a diplomatic thing that's just common sense as a rebel to be suspicious of everyone.

>>51609999
If the leaks are any indication, Episode 8 will be a Empire rehash. They even have a nu-Lando in there for that purpose.

>>51610478
>a nu-Lando
>not hiring the OG
Were Billy Dee Williams' health issues that bad?

>>51610498
I mean someone in his exact same position. OG Lando is probably a Rebel General after al-who am I kidding with this nu-canon bullshit he's probably back on Bespin just because.

>>51596398
>there are droves of people who want Disney to delve into the Old Republic era, make a Revan movie, and a Netflix series

I don't get how anyone has any faith in Disney. Market-tested bullshit with nothing meaty. Maybe I'm just too much of an EUfag, but I like my Old Republic the way it is/was.

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>>51610557
>Revan movie
How would that even work? Before TORtanic, his personality was entirely up to the player. Even the KOTOR comics kept him pretty mysterious. That being said, if the Old Republic era ever does get revisited, I hope to the Force that it uses TotJ's properly archaic looks rather than the games' reskinned PT/OT art style.

>>51610599
That's not cool enough for the kids these days. Everything's gotta be a call-back to the OT to hit just the right marks.

Though, KOTOR and the following games had a style that really grew on me. A sort of familiarity but everything was still fairly different.

What's a good way of using Threat when dealing Strain wouldn't really make sense or just generally be a dick move?

>>51610402
TFA is better than the prequels and is worse than Rogue 1. The prequels except for 3 were dogshit my man

>>51610956
TFA is the worst Star Wars movie ever lad, though 8 might surpass it.

>>51610956
The prequels aren't really better movies than say, Rogue One, but definitely more so than TFA. TFA fails to have a cohesive plot. What both RO and TFA fail in most of all compared to the Prequels is that they didn't build a world or fascinate. They simply went through the motions of going from planet to planet as fast as possible and getting every necessary plot point out of the way.

>>51610988
No it isn't not by far. Phantom Menace and AotC was worse. Tfa is a better movie than RotS but I personally liked RotS more.
>>51611016
You have no idea what you are talking about do you? How does TFA not have a cohesive plot but AotC does? Sure TFA didn't spend enough time world building but neither did ANH.

>>51611083
Within the first 10 minutes you had plenty of worldbuilding. The Empire, Rebels, everything was established. With the Death Star meeting we got a peak into how the Empire operates. In TFA we know fuck all about the Resistance, New Republic and First Order. All we know is that they're just kinda there.

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>>51610739
>not cool enough
So we add samurai and ramp up the Kurosawa influences.

>>51609915

I only trust Allston with writing Antilles.
May he forever rip peacefully.

>>51611238
>Seven Samurai with ancient jedis
I would gladly pay to watch that shit.

>>51611083
>How does TFA not have a cohesive plot but AotC does?

Because you can actually follow it? Other than 'who is Syfo-Dias', there aren't nearly as many unanswered questions or plot holes in any of the trilogy movies compared to the absolute train wreck that is TFA's plot. And any movie that you need to read a book before watching to get answers to like two or three of the dozens of questions that need to be answered to make sense of it, then the movie has failed to be its own organism.

>>51611379
I don't think you know what a plothole is.

>>51611438
You're not actually refuting anything. You're basically saying NU-UH repeatedly.

>>51611486
You haven't listed a single TFA plothole either other than you don't like it.

>>51611561

Not him, but
Why is Finn so fucking good at shooting and everything despite in the film all we know is he's a stormtrooper who ran away from his first mission and was a janitor?
Why is Rey a god-tier mechanic and pilot, outflying two elite TIE pilots in a decades-old ship she's never flown before and didnt think would even fly?
Poe's a god tier pilot, but he's a professional military pilot, and Ren describes him as one of the Resistance' best.
Why does the Resistance have only fighters and no capitals, or even freighters, and why does the Republic not do anything?
Why can everyone see the death of the INDIVIDUAL planets of the Hosnian system from a totally different system lightyears away, instantly?
How does Maz have Luke's saber - though this one is lampshaded with 'lmao ill tell u l8r'.
Why does R2 have 99.9% of a map other than the one useful bit?
Why has R2 been shutdown all this time just because?
Why does R2 awaken again now of all times, just becuase?

Don't get me wrong, I liked the film a lot, and a *lot* more than the prequels.
But it has weird holes and logic jumps out the ass.

>>51611676

>>Why is Finn so fucking good at shooting and everything despite in the film all we know is he's a stormtrooper who ran away from his first mission and was a janitor?

As someone who was in the military, everyone is trained on how to use weapons. There were certainly people I knew in primarily non-combat roles who earned Expert Marksman.

>>Why is Rey a god-tier mechanic and pilot, outflying two elite TIE pilots in a decades-old ship she's never flown before and didnt think would even fly?

Because muh diversity.

>>Why does the Resistance have only fighters and no capitals, or even freighters, and why does the Republic not do anything?

Because the Republic doesn't want to get into war and purposely downgraded their forces after the Empire collapsed. This wasn't explained in the movie, but in various books.

>>Why can everyone see the death of the INDIVIDUAL planets of the Hosnian system from a totally different system lightyears away, instantly?

J.J. Abrams doesn't understand space (see: the two NuTrek movies)

>>How does Maz have Luke's saber - though this one is lampshaded with 'lmao ill tell u l8r'.

Because J.J. Abrams has an unhealthy obsession with the "Mystery Box" concept.

>>Why does R2 have 99.9% of a map other than the one useful bit?
>>Why has R2 been shutdown all this time just because?
>>Why does R2 awaken again now of all times, just becuase?

Headcanon here: the map R2 had was downloaded from the Imperial records aboard the Death Star, but was encrypted. He had to go immobile so he could focus the majority of his computer power into decrypting it.

>>51610552
Dude... he actually did go back to Bespin...

http://www.ibtimes.com.au/star-wars-last-jedi-new-canon-novel-reveals-where-lando-1542212

>>51611676
>Why has R2 been shutdown all this time just because?
Because he's depressed since Luke went and fucked off without him.

>I liked more than the prequels
Now this I don't understand. The prequels did a lot of world/universe building that the OT did not. Tatooine has space nascar, more kinds of food, bigger buildings and larger cities than previously shown, etc. not to mention the other planets. But maybe you're just not into that sort of thing.

>>51611894
Why is everything about Disney Wars so fucking safe and predictable? It's getting annoying now.

>>51611984
Because it's Disney. They want to make money, not risk it. Same reason the Marvel movies are samey garbage.

>>51611885

>everyone is trained
So why is Finn literally a better shot than anyone we've seen, ever. Every single stormtrooper, every single rebel.

>muh diversity
It's still a plot hole, even if you throw pol memes at it.

>it wasnt in the movie
And that's the entire fucking point. If you want to go into the books, we know why Rey is a great pilot and mechanic, and why Finn is a great shot, but we're talking about the film here.

>JJ Abrams is a moron
Agreed, but still, in the universe of the film that's a gaping hole in plot and logic. Mostly just becuase Abrams is a fucktard who doesnt understand scale at all.

>mystery box
That's true, and also they did in fact imply there's a reason for it - just one theyre not telling now, which is more than anything else got.


>r2
The worst part is that they couldve just done something better - R2 has had a map in his databanks for ALL this time, but it was encrypted. The First Order had it too, just as encrypted. The little shard that the old man gives to Poe on Jakku? It's an old imperial data storage device with the long-lost cipher key to the code. Both sides want it so they can decrypt the one map that will lead to Skywalker.
Bam.
Makes a fucklot more sense.

Still doesnt explain why R2 got depressed and just shut down, though. Other than they needed bb8 to be a thing, of course.
Much as I fucking love bb8.

>>51611907

Eh, I did like some of the prequels worldbuilding, sure. Naboo is pretty, if retarded, Coruscant was awesome to see properly, all the way from the senate down to the undercity.
But the stories of the prequels just gave me spacecancer, and EVERYTHING about the fall of Anakin Skywalker gave me space aids.
Except the bit where he loses his shit and murders a bunch of tusken raiders for murdering his mother. That was prbably the only realistic and well-handled part of his entire fall.

>>51612030
>why is Finn literally a better shot than anyone we've seen, ever.
Nah, asian man's asian brother in R1 was a better shot, but he's a dirty force user.

>>51612057

Okay, yeah, I forgot about Asian GunBro.
He was pretty goddamn bullshit, especially considering he seemed ot be using some kind of blaster lmg rather than a rifle.

>>51612030
>Naboo is pretty, if retarded
Elective monarchies are a thing. See renaissance Poland or the Holy Roman Empire.

>>51609399
>>51609418
More moving parts, but the parts themselves are easier to fabricate with a metal shop.

>>51612117

I meant the fact that it's apparently a hollow swiss cheese planet full of water.
The government is kinda silly in that they put a teenager in charge, but this is star wars, whatever.

>>51612117
They didn't elect pubescent girls to limited terms of office.

>>51612080
>bullshit, especially considering he seemed ot be using some kind of blaster lmg rather than a rifle
To be fair, you can kind of bullshit a counter-argument by citing historical examples. IIRC, the Bren had a reputation for being very precise.

>>51612143
>>51612144
I could see it. Local nobles lobby and gerrymander for voters to pick what they see as some weak inept girl that they could easily manipulate.