Horus Heresy General

So, why was this not the first book?

the podcast is going to be maximum overgay

>>51422889

Because you need to set up everything, establish the setting, have a basic list for the Legions, and set up rules for a few of them.

Imagine that with two of the most unusual, deviant and OP Legions first. It would have crashed and burned

>>51422889
because it covers the two worst legions on either side, and some shitty golden bananas that are largely irrelevant outside of webway fuckery

>>51422933

But the Word Bearers aren't in this book.

>>51422923

So? Suggest a way to not make it overgay. Bloody hell, I hate it when people just complain without lifting a finger to actually do something about said complaints. If you have a suggestion to improve it before it even starts, please share it so we can use it to make this work. This is a thing for the community after all. Otherwise, shut the fuck up if you've not nothing more to say than 'it's going to be maximum overgay', without saying why or what can be done to make it otherwise.

>>51422924
Fair enough.

>>51422959
Well, I am a part of the community. I won't be there.

>>51422924

How are the space wolves OP? They were like every other legion.

>>51422945
>implying the Wolves aren't the worst
Wolf wolf wolf wolf wolf wolf. Wolf wolf? Wolf. Wolf wolf wolf. Wolf. Wolf. Wolf? Wolf.

Kill, marry, fuck: Primarch edition. Go.

>Kill Perturabo
>Marry Vulkan
>Fuck Fulgrim

>>51423048
>Kill Leman Russ
>Marry Lorgar
>Fuck Sanguinius

>>51423048
No.

>>51422959

My constructive criticism is to not do it for the same reason I recommend not driving off cliffs. There's not really a middle ground

>>51423078

But if we were to do it, regardless of the risk, how would you go about making it something the community (as in most average posters here) would enjoy? Something to listen to while painting/modelling?

Besides, this is the first real thing /hhg/ has done in ages. it's either try and actually produce something, or just give up and leave this place as a cesspool of shitposting and bad memes. And I for one want to give the /hhg/ something back.

>>51423060
Yes :^)

>>51422959
Real answer.
It is a flooded market, with no real new influx of listeners or players.
Your opinions may matter here, your own personal ideals of how X should be more or less like Y may make sense here, but the hobby has a lot of personal interpretation of what is and is not good. Your opinions may make a lot of people mad, may be old news to certain circles, or may just be ignored as the same thing everyone else is saying.

>>51423121
Have an open poll for questions- maybe from each thread, each day or each week.
Have a painting section, where the most talented of the speakers goes into depth on how to do certain effects, maybe even doing them live (Have a YT to post them up later)
Following on the YT idea, make videos discussing the most commonly asked questions, so a video can be referenced for list building, army content, WYSIWYG in 30k, etc.
Have as many guest speakers from other podcasts as possible.
Also, if you are going to make jokes on air, don't have them be inside jokes. Nobody likes being left out.

>>51422994
plot armor is a pretty strong power

>>51422876
>Eight Days to Inferno Edition
;^)

>>51423250
They get their ass kicked all the time in HH.

>>51423250
>implying the wolves don't job every chance they get

>>51423250
Dont like half the rules writers have Space Wolf armies? I know both the Burning of Prospero writers do. Funnily enough the same guys wrote the Wrath of Magnus supplement for 40k. Probably why those TSons players were so salty about it being shit.

DID

NOTHING

WRONG

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Everybody post your current WIP table you're working at this week

>>51423314
RETCONNED XD

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>>51423317

So, in the aftermath of the Horus Heresy and the Great Scouring, who is the most powerful primarch? Weakest?

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>>51423317
Gotta try and get this shit finished before I move soon!

>>51423447
>most powerful primarch?
Guilliman, since he's effectively high shiggydiggy of all the Imperium
>weakest
Either Curze, Ferrus, Sanguinius or Horus.

>>51423633
Wouldn't the most powerful have to be Lorgar, Magnus, or Perturabo?
I'm not counting Angron because he can't use MINDBULLETS.

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>>51423470
>Not fielding at least 3 knight

>>51423730
>Wouldn't the most powerful have to be Lorgar, Magnus, or Perturabo?
Why? They all got driven into the eye.

You could argue Fulgrim would be the top dog, but even he got punked by basic dudes and fled after shanking G money.

>>51423767
implying Fulgrim would ever be on top ;)

>CHOOOOOOOMing fellblades off the table
silly cuckolds, you picked the inferior legion super heavy
glaive is best tankfu

>>51423797
>his tankfu isn't the rhino
games are won or lost on the backs of the humble RH-1 N-0

mars best pattern, fite me deimos fanboys

>>51423470
how was the atrapos build? was it a recast? I fucking love the look of that knight.

>>51423810
>tfw the deimos' front plate is far inferior to the deimos predator's front plate
sad dayy, may make me go for the mars pattern

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>>51423837
yeah its a recent CC cast with his new resin.... it shits all over FW seriously. I buy both and this cast is above and beyond anything else and the resin is a dream to work with and no smell or sticky residue. Took it for a spin already and it ate 2 knights and a bunch of tanks.

>>51423908
that's awesome dude. as soon as all the chinese come back from their holiday I'm gonna be ordering so much from china that my bank is gonna call me and ask if I lost my debit card.

>>51423859
>tfw the annihilator is my favorite tank but it's strictly post-heresy

>>51423935
What holiday are they on? Me and a friend have been waiting for 3 weeks for a package that hasn't even left the country yet from our friendly China connection.

>>51424138

Chinese New Years you dumb white devil.

>>51423470
What did you use to get that patchy look on those tanks? Looks like a wash but I can't tell which

>>51424153
looks like white, maybe light grey primer with a sepia wash to me

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>>51422945

>>51424180
I bought some sepia to make my DG look patchier (I'm scared they look too clean) and it looks a bit ruddy

My dudes are on iron ore bases, but I'm too scared to stick some on, think it's cool to start with and realise I hate it afterward. I have a habit of doing stupid things like that...

>>51424148
I didn't know they celebrate for a whole fucking month. Dealingh with pirates teaches you all kinds of new stuff. :^)

>>51420755
>>51421087

How many passes of the clear did you do? I feel like with the tamiya clears I need 7-9 thin passes, and by then... a lot of shine shine seems gone

>>51424327

Foolish American, the beginning of the month we are celebrating your inferior Gue'la New Years. Twice the holiday, because we are twice as smart as you!

>>51424153
Brown base, grey highlight then white zenith highlight. This then heavily washed with sepia and then a large brush is used for drybrush with pallid wytch flesh, enjoy!

>>51424353
>I feel like with the tamiya clears I need 7-9 thin passes, and by then... a lot of shine shine seems gone

FOOL! Do one single pass with an airbrush. My legend begins in the 12th century!

>>51424421
I got that reference.jpg

>>51424406
>Foolish American
That's where you're wrong, kiddo. ;^)
>teleports behind you

>>51424327
It's this weekend and most people will take the next two weeks off. But there was probably a rush before, and they didn't get to your order in time.

>>51424435
>unsheathes claymore as bagpipes start playing

Fuck yeah.

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>>51424454
>smashes bottle to the tune of AC/DC
Whatdya fuckin say bout me ya cunts

R8 & H8! In between all the shitposting.

SoH 2000
RoW - The long march

HQ
Maloghurst
Centurion forgelord with cortex controller, refractor field, cyberfamiliar, rad grenades, melta bombs, powersword.

Troops (maloghurst makes veterans troops)
Veteran squad (10) with 2 heavy flamers, 3 combi-flamers, powerfist, rhino transport
Veteran squad (5) with dual lightning claws and 4 power mauls

Fast attack
Seeker squad (8) 5 combi-meltas, LR Proteus with lascannon and explorator array.

Heavy
Land raider achilles

Thallax (6) with heavy chainblades and ferrox augment.

Heavy support squad (5) with missile launchers and augury scanner.

Malohurst is with the heavy support squad. His warlord trait makes him scoring and then he can camp with the fire power.
Flamer veterans seek out objective and cleanse any troops holding.
Melee veterans follow the Forgelord in the Achilles.
The rad grenads makes enemies t3 which gives the power mauls instant death. They seek out tougher prey.
Seekers use the Proteus to scout into almost the enemy deployment zone and unleash first round hell with rerolls of 1s. The meltas will kill most things.
Thallax deep strike 2nd round and either go after vehicles or infantry.


It checks out rules legal but give me some critique if you want.

>>51424571
to many toys on the forgelord, to few bodies at the point level (imo).

>>51424571
veterans with dual lightning claws? is that a thing?

>>51422923
Are you going to be in it then, Anon?

>>51424606
yes 1/5 can pick it (or sergeant)

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>>51423317
Finally got off my ass and finished the first 5 of 15 Tacticals.

>>51424606
>>51424600

At this time, i'm not feeling it with tacticals, that might come with 2000+ points army. Also, I wanted some variation of units or units with slightly different purposes, explaining the Thallax. Another reason is that woth this list I only have to buy the land raiders.

>>51424672

#3 is seriously badass
#2 is pretty good too
#4 and #5 suffer from dumb GW leg syndrome

I guess no-one gives a shit about the puppies?

https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-AU/The-Wolf-kin-of-Russ

>>51424672
Those are some sexy DG, may I ask for that cream/white recipe?

>>51424720
no, noone but faggots and furries

>>51424720
not much to say about them, considering how long everyone's known about 'em

the leaner plastic wuffs are better, I think

>>51424672
Weather the bolters.

>>51424676
gross desu.
tactical spam is what makes 30k better then 40k, if you can't do it with bolter and blade its not worth doing.

>>51424776

40k has plenty of tactical spam.

In Battle Company MSU

>>51424720
Dogs are dogs, am I right? So not really

>>51424776

Well if you put it that way, most units have the standard bolter. The thing I lose is fury of the legion.

>>51424786
they're not the same and you know it. we have to pay for our rides

>>51424794
fair enough I suppose, I'm just not into the same style of 30k as you, I personally think the "vets are troops" is a mistake that just makes 30k more like 40k which is something I believe the system would be better of without.

only poorfags and waacfags use vets as troops :^)

>>51424836

I agree on the veterans are a mistake. Your arguments are correct. Why do I use them then?
Because I'm a poorfag. At least I'm not a waacfag thank God.

>>51424836
So 2x20 man tac's is they way to go? That's good, I almost thought I was being crazy.

>>51424776
do mechanized tacticals get a pass?

>>51424942
How many units?

>>51424864
if you're a poorfag/lazyfag that hates tacticals you should be running armored breakthrough, no question about it. my first 30k list was an imperial fists armored breakthrough and it's pretty fun. and easy on the wallet with betrayal at calth or prospero box and then ebay the rest of the tanks.

then when you get money buy FW or better friends with connections hit up the chinaman

>>51424909
vets are better in every way except fury of the legion, but its not as iconic and fun as 40 bolter marines shouting angry words as they charge up the field.
>>51424942
definetly, desu I have respect and adoration for all list combinations besides vets as troops, even terminators as troops is more ballsy then vets.

>>51424954
What about super vets that cause fear and have choom?

>>51424954
>even terminators as troops is more ballsy then vets
That's because terminators are the coolest. But only if they're indomitus or cataphractii. Special termies and tartaros termies can go home.

>>51424950

Infantry (termies or/and reavers) in anvillus drop pods will come when the wallet allows it.

>>51424966
its fluffy :^)

its allright for NL and AL to use their special units as troops because it fits their style of warfare and the rites are somewhat restrictive enough for it to not be stupid like POTL is.

>>51422959
> Read long faggy blog post
> realize the podcast will be exactly like this, but with more heavy breathing and shit tier mikes
How about... don't make it?

>>51424729
Sure, here's a c&p of the whole scheme. Bit long but detailed.

They're done using a combination of airbrush, wash and drybrush. They first get a layer of Vallejo Leather Brown Surface Primer then a layer of VGA Bonewhite and a zenithal coat of VGA Dead White. The whole model gets a wash of AP Soft Tone and then a drybrush of VGC Bonewhite and one of VMC Offwhite. Green shoulder pads are a couple of layers of Death World Forest with a lining of Soft Tone at the edges.

Brass is a layer of VGA Brassy Brass and VGA Bright Bronze washed with Ogryn Flesh Wash. Steel is VMA Silver with a wash of AP Dark Tone. Banding is just a few layers of Dark Tone.

Gun casings are VGE Heavy Charcoal with highlights of VGC Cold Grey and VGC Stonewall Grey and washed with Dark Tone. Lenses are VGA Gory Red, Bloody Red and Orange Fire with a wash of Soft Tone and a dot of Offwhite in the top corners if I can reach them.

Bases are a layer of Black Lava primed with Leather Brown then drybrushed with Heavy Charcoal, Cold Grey and Stonewall Grey and a touch of Offwhite. Chipping is sponged on with either Heavy Charcoal or VMC Black Grey, whichever is closer at the time. Skulls are Dheneb Stone with a Dead White highlight then washed with Soft Tone. Then I brush on a bunch of Vallejo Pigments Carbon Black around the boots and greaves to tie them in to the base and with decals and a varnish the model is done.

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>>51423317

>>51425269

Oh shit son. That's an expensive looking monster you have there.

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>£70 for two dollar store toys

I'd rather buy a Thunderwolf box and use two of those doggies.

>>51425457
yea whoever sculpted those really need to take a look at the plastic wolves.

>>51425457
This shit was only made to rip off furries and wankers.

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Duncan plays SoH, and he paints them well.

BEHOLD!

>>51425489
Why did you say the same thing twice?

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>>51425527

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>>51423317

Does my one dude count?

I can't actually decide if I want to make them 30k or 40k because I don't actually have people to play with.

>>51425457
Bet those fuckers are OP as shit so Russfags have to buy them, but god they look bad. Ugliest models in awhile IMO.

>>51425457
>More yiff shit up before even a hint of Magnus.
Fuck I wish the TSons nemesis wasnt the teachers favourite.

>>51425527
His SOH was featured in a White Dwarf magazine some years ago and it was quite large, are these images from his twitter?

Hi, so I'm new(ish) to Horus Heresy/40k and I recently wanted to convert some Grey Knight Terminators for my Word Bearers army.

I know that the Knights themselves are post-heresy but could their variant of Terminator armour been around then?

>>51425632
the base of it is (indomintus) but with the context of the text inscribed into it its going to look aweful up close. why not just use cata or tartaros and write text on them anyway.

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>>51425632
The Knight Termies were most likely created during the Heresy or later, Anon.

>>51425632
no but nobody is stopping you

>>51425632
>>51425681
IF you're going to do this at least change the helmet and the arms, scrape of all the swords and books and make the text very muted so its hard to read from a distance.

>>51425632
Why not just use actual terminators from the heresy but with the halberds from the Grey Knights?

>>51423302
The designer comments were hilarious
>So the TS are these evil guys who do magic, we came up with some rules for that so you can throw powerful spells around, of course, they don't stand a chance against the SW
>Here we are guys! The SPAAAACE WUUULVES! These guys are awesome in every way so we had to come up with some really awesome rules and narrative for them to show how they really crush the enemies of the Imperium with the might of Fenris, including those pesky Thousand Sons

Like I know you gotta appeal to teenagers but holy shit have a bit of neutrality when discussing design not background

>>51425715
That design video is the reason I didnt hype buy BoP. Seriously it was a like 10 minute video and it completely killed all hype that had built up for me.

>Space Wolves are all better in combat then the Sons XD
>Heres NOTBjorn wrecking a bunch of Sons in combat
>What? Oh Ahriman oh does spells I think...
>Anyways designer tell us more about the Sisters and Custodes who also destroy the Sons
T..thanks...

>>51425632
The only super-iconic thing is halberds and helmets. I assume you want the plentiful book and engraved armour motifs?

>>51425457
They look like bears.

>>51425546
Is good. Make them 30k.

>>51425566
Why not buy plastic thunderwolves? You can build them without the saddle and Marine, and they'll just be big wolves.

>>51425602
Yup.

>>51425816
And he did that green the same way they show it on their WarhammerTV video on the SoH.

If you wanted to make a custom unit for 30k, some post it up on TG, and you wanted it to look like a real 30k page, is there a template some where?

>>51425874

Read the OP again.

>>51425888
>squint< Right you are there lad, carry on.

>>51425457
i've found an upside to them.
you don't have to buy them with russ.

Any of you lads going to Warhammer World this weekend for the HH Doubles Weekend?

>>51425537
Those look fucking ace.
Saint Duncan always delivers.
Always

fyi all of you people who say Magnus did nothing wrong: he's cavorting with the psychic manifestation of Satan. the biblical Satan. thanks BL for clarifying Magnus I'd fucked up in the dome right from the beginning of his career

>>51425973
> thanks BL for RETCONNING Magnus I'd fucked up in the dome right from the beginning of his career
FTFY

>>51425457
I hope this sculptor gets fired. Christ these look horrible. And for that price?
That shit should be a "buy Russ, get these shit dogs for free" kind of situation

>>51425973

Wait, what? What's this from?

>>51425751
The psychic hoods are kind of obvious too. I'm not sure how snug a fit it is, but if you could somehow get the grey knight chest and the regular indomitus back/hood to go together they'd look a lot more natural.

Because non-psychics really shouldn't be using psychic hoods.

>>51425269
> sir we've run outta Nuln oil!
> Motha o' God! Ensign! To GW! Post haste

>>51425988
magnus primarch book. the followers of Shaitan go around screaming Hail Shaitan and referencing the bible.

Magnus deals with a psychic abomination of pure hate (justified hate, from the suffering of massive psychers) that calls itself... Shai-Tan. and magnus keeps it in his book until the planet of sorcerer where he releases it as a pet/advisor

>>51425979
t'son faggots never learn
seen it doesn't matter if your primarch is a fucking manic with no regard for life.
what matters is victory and glory

>>51426039
btw this all takes places super early in the crusade. magnus was fucking tainted by that event

>>51426039

Can you spoil the story for us please?

Is the Peturabo of it the Decimation type, or the Autist didn't do nothing wrong type? And is the Decimation even mentioned, or did McNeil try to retcon it out?

Also what's the Order of Ruin I've heard is mentioned in there?

I didnt know Carnac visited these threads? I'm guessing its because there's a new book he can shit post about.

>>51426042
>seen it doesn't matter if your primarch is a fucking manic with no regard for life.
;^)

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>>51426074
We don't talk about him.

>>51426058
starts with magnus visited by Shai-Tan on the Planet of the Sorcerers, shortly after being transported there. then reminisces about the planet morningstar (hey get the reference?!) where he tried to help the inhabitants escape from the planet's sudden and impending self-destruction.

perturabo is of the sympathetic pre-autism flavor, still mathematical in thinking but very human.

basically part of the populace is influenced by the shaitan cult and the book of leviathan, and they wish to die because that is the path to elevation.

turns out a terra colony ship landed on the planet, and the reason why the planet survived old night entirely unscathed is because they surgically mutilated every single person who had psychic potential.

that little act, done within the colony ship, created a psychic horror calling itself Shai-Tan (get it yet?!) that even surpasses magnus in sheer power. the colonists back then understood they had fucked up big time and sealed the ship and fucking buried it. then they created a self-destruct mechanism for the planet (currently in its final throes).

the sons, ever curious, just popped open the colony ship, get themselves possessed, magnus tries to intervene but gets manhandled (or psyhandled), eventually a momentary pause in Shai-Tan's onslaught allows magnus to literally toss a pokeball at it in the form of sucking it into his book.

cue a lot of "yo magnus you just fucking condemned your legion hahaha but eh thanks for freeing me from my hatred" from shai-tan and its all over.

and back to the planet of sorcerers with shai-tan telling magnus that there is still a path open to him to move forward.

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>>51425997

>null oil

I use this instead m8 (vallejo game color blackwash) got it about a year ago and £10.99 and still have more than half. It's 200ml vs the nuln oils 24ml and as a bonus its not easy to knock over. You just have to give it a good stir before use (for the love of God don't shake it.) I've found it gives better coverage too.

A 24ml of nuln oil costs £4.55. I only have it because I paint in store sometimes.

>>51426125
order of ruin only gets briefly mentioned; it's basically thousand sons who are fascinated by numbers for the purpose of destruction. ahriman compares them to the iron warriors, saying they are pretty similar except that the order is driven by curiosity rather than efficiency

they're from the 40k ahriman book series, with ignis as the order's founder

>>51426125

So did McNeil try to retcon the Decimation?

>>51426039
FYI, Graham McNeil doesn't even like Thousand Sons. He was disappoint he got given them when the Prospero story was being planned out. Don't expect him to make Magnus sympathetic or relatable at any time.
He's not a complex writer. His view of Magnus is literally
>guy who was interested in bad things gets easily tempted into learning about bad things, trouble ensues
The only reason his view of the TS comes off as did nuffin wrong is that the SW literally murder civilians for no reason, as well as burn books and destroy art that has nothing to do with sorcery, while Ahriman and the others go "wait what's happening". There are zero shades there, the only reason it feels complex and mythic is the fact that they all got Just As Planned.

>>51426125
>Shai-Tan
This is why people dont take you seriously BL. I mean just wow, this is bottom of the barrel even for them.

>>51426131

>£10.99
Sorry, meant £6.99. There's no reason you shouldnt get it over nuln.

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>>51426125
>cue a lot of "yo magnus you just fucking condemned your legion hahaha but eh thanks for freeing me from my hatred" from shai-tan and its all over.

>>51426125
>Inability to use literary influences beyond that of a 14 year old's writing level
>Pushing of His Dudes (Iron Warriors) into everything
>Inability to write complex characters

Yeah, sounds like McNeil. Was there a boring battle described as if everyone was using 19th century tactics as well?

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>>51426147
>the SW literally murder civilians for no reason
They violated the Council of Nikaea

>>51426163
>a word in a language long lost by 30k times has meaning that people in 30k can't intuit to
>also has strong relations to the Tsons Arabian influences
Dude, you need to not be so stupid.

>>51426190
Civilians werent bound by the edict Anon.

hey anons, did skit end up being in hh7 and what did admech/legion get in 7

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>>51426190
I don't like where this thread is going. On an unrelated note Orthodox priests will bless anything.

>>51426207

Space Wolves don't know that.

>>51426200
>Implying I was referring to Shit-an in-universe and not it impact on the reader
Plz.

>>51426200
Please don't be serious.

>>51426207
>>51426218
Russ would have had to read the edict/ payed attention during the whole thing rather then sitting there screaming internally about witches

>>51426218
Lol. Really Anon?

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>>51426244
This.

What do you anons think about the Culverins
compared to the chargers and cavilers
I'm trying to decided if i should buy chargers for a ten man support or go for something else

>>51426218
How could the Wolves possibly not know that Anon? Please explain your reasoning to the class.

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>>51425546
I'm in the same situation. Oh, woe is me.

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>>51423317
How you doing with Emma senpai?

>>51426355
>>51425546
I don't see the issue that much, you can easily swap between 30k and 40k.
just without the armour or some heavy weapons.

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>>51425751
Combination of that and the Terminator profile looking more upright. I saw this and thought it looked pretty cool

Here is an idea. If FW add a 0-1 "Officer detachment" to elites where you can take 1-3 Consuls. The draw back is those consuls must have the "Legion Support Officer" rule and each model can't be the same Consul type, e.g. can't take 2 Librarians. (Note: I have written 'Consul', not Centurion, they have to be upgraded). Would you find this new unit useful? broken? thoughts and feedback please.

>>51426413
Not for me. I know deathstars are a thing in the game already, but I still prefer 30k to be about the armies. That suggestion is a bit too herohammer for my tastes.

>>51426163
I don't get it.

>>51426412
What kind of Termies were fused to make those? Also are those Ork power klaws?

>>51426163
actually pretty common witnin gdubs
ever pronounce c'tan with a soft c rather than a k?

>>51426471
>>Shai-Tan
>>SA-TAN
>>Mr Satan
>>DBZ
Magus is going to become a super saiyan, its all very clear...

>>51425699
I don't really want the halberds just something else that'll look distinct from my Tartaros and Cataphractii

>>51426163
>Throwing the better authors in with garbage McNeil.
Go read Genestealer Cults.

>>51426501
Oh. I kept pronouncing it as SHY-tan in my head.

>>51426480
I have no idea. Honestly I don't like the claws but other than that they look pretty cool.

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Anybody play as/against a shattered legion? I'm thinking of doing an Istvaan themed list of Death Guard led SoH, WE, and EC squads, because I like the idea of those brave bastards facing down the majority of their legions and Primarchs in a doomed struggle to kill as many traitors as they can.

Also I want to paint some of each :^)

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>>51423317
The Forgefather head transfer is complete.

>>51426471
Shaitan is the islamic word for Satan. He's put a hyphen in the middle because Sci-Fi/Fantasy writing rules I guess.
The planet is called Morningstar, which is the meaning of the name Lucifer, which is another name for Satan.

I understand there are people who for whatever reason have never learned these things before, but when reading the book you would probably have realised it from context quite quickly (or he would have explained the reference to you like in VS), but for anyone that already understands it - which would then include you once you grasped it - it's fantastically lazy and disappointing. You're being asked to try and take seriously a novel about Magnus when you have to read him having conversations with a character literally called Satan. Kinda knocks you out of the mood.

This is not to say that you can't write a good story about someone talking to the Devil. You can. Just maybe don't make it phenomenally sesame street tier obvious that it's the case, you know?

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>>51426511

If you want something special, and your conversion skills are up to the task, why not take inspiration from this?

>>51426501
>>51426561
Really BL?
>>51426535
K

>>51426557
How'd this go? I'm considering doing it myself.

>>51426561
Basically

>you get it guys, he is making deal with the devil! xDDDD


sounds kinda obnoxious.

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>>51423317
And the rest of my guys with another fifty on the way.

>>51426447
Well I wanted to open up less used Consuls. I would love to used heralds and Chaplins but never have the HQ space.

>>51426567
So cool! Unfortunately I've only been doing this since Christmas.

>>51426576
So how come when McNeil does something shit, all of BL gets blamed, but when ADB, Thorpe, French, or Wraight do something off, they get blamed individually?

>>51425047
Show us on the doll where the radio presenter touched you.

>>51426609
What're you, his mum?

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>>51426582
Not too bad, carving out the backplate of the terminator armor enough for the head to fit is a bit challenging. I wanted the head to be jutting out a little bit more to make the character look larger due to being a Blackshield Chymeraie option 1.

To get the helmet to rest within the gorget is more difficult, you would have to do some serious carving and risk losing the detail on the piping.

>>51426594
You do know you have 3 HQ slots in the age of darkness FOC, right? So even if two are taken (one with master of the legion, and (I assume) whichever one is compulsory for your rite of war) you still have a slot free.

And you see lots of people taking chaplains, not sure what the problem is there.

>>51426627
I'm saying I want McNeil out of BL and to never come back. His work is shit and it sticks around for ages.

>>51424488
>passive aggressively calls the police about a noise complaint to the tune of Rolf Harris' rendition of Waltzing matilda

Bloody hoons.

/hhg/ rank primarchs by competitiveness

>>51426681
they're all shit take more troops instead/10

>>51423048
BLACKED
L
A
C
K
E
D

Okay, I got a link to Chinaman. Now I need to know if it's worth it; the prices are stupid good, but I dont wanna buy something if it's shit quality.

I'm looking at Gorgon Terminators if anyone has experience, but most of the kits I'd be interested in. Any references for quality?

>>51426218
>transhumans not hearing what the emprah said or their primarch knows

>>51426218
t.whitescars legionnaire

>>51426757
>Literally the entire concept of Blackshields and traitors from loyalist legions.

>>51423048
>Kill Horus
>Marry Sanguinius
>Fuck Vulkan

>>51426681
>very competitive, does not like to be bested in anything tier
Russ, Horus, Fulgrim, Lion, Alpharius
>fairly competitive tier
Ferrus, Dorn, Pertuarbo, Magnus, Guilliman
>doesn't care so long as the job gets done tier
Khan, Lorgar, Corax, Mortarion
>noble and magnanimous tier
Sanguinius, Vulkan
>doesn't give a shit about competing with his brothers tier
Curze, Angron

That's what you meant, wasn't it?

>>51422986
Because you're too stupid to make a new Discord account you fucking degenerate.

>>51426771
pert not in high competitive level.
dude literally snapped because he couldn't be as popular as the rest of his brothers.
could penetrate the walls of the imperial palace with his hate borner for Dorn

>>51426807
I want that to take the form of a crotch mounded drill/laser cutter.

>>51426609
Because he's been there for a while. It's like saying "LEGION WAR NOW. GAS THE DEATH GUARD NOW" and thinking everyone won't look at you stupid.

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>>51423048

Question for 30k button-counters

Can i use FW Sons of Horus models to represent Luna Wolves? I just like the color scheme better. However, all of the FW stuff has the Eye of Horus molded onto it, which leaves nowhere to put the wolf symbol.

Mostly just curious what any other LW players have done.

>>51426618
Who ever told you growing up that you were special, or that your opinion matters, was fucking lying

>>51426984
>Luna Wolves
>Sons of Horus
Literally the same.

>>51426984
You could probably just use generic MK II and III to represent Luna Wolves, not sure if they sell transfer sheets for them tho. You could probably dress it up a little with some Space Yiff pelts too

>>51427035
But could I get away with using SoH models with a LW color scheme/transfers?

>>51426295
self bump for how you folks feel about the different volkite weapons
and which ones you'd suggest

>>51427215
I'm going to run many of them.because fluff and fun modeling opportunities.

I know the chargers aren't particularly competitive without a delivery mechanism. Calivers are quite cost effective.

The sweet spot tends to be the 45" range on the culiverns coming out at 2 S6 deflagrate shots. Solid at infantry and light vehicle smiting

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How's this for a starter list of Death Guard?

>HQ (175)
-Crysos Morturg (175)

>Troops (590)
-20 man Tactical Squad - extra CCWs, vexilla Power/Combi weapon sergeant (295)
-20 man Tactical Squad - extra CCWs, vexilla, Power/Combi weapon sergeant (295)

>Heavy Support (485)
-10 man Heavy Support Squad - missile launchers (285)
-4 man Grave Warden Terminators Squad (200)

Wardens go with Morturg on a cheeky infiltration mission, not sure what warhead I should kit the squads and sergeant with. Pls be gentle, this is babby's first 30k list.

>>51427389
>warhead
Wargear, I went with vexilla and power/combi weapons because that's what I see most often in tac squad lists

SW already have their Primarch model and a unique HQ, and I'm just sitting here waiting for anything TS related to be revealed...

>>51427665
You'll have to wait a while. Inferno doesn't come out until March 2023.

>>51427691
By then SW will have all their unique units out, along with experimental LA rules, unique weapons, and special charcters
I'm not salty at all I swear

>>51427717
I am tho.

>>51426783
it's an IP ban and I don't use a VPN

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>>51423317

>>51426295

Culverins are the shit especially if you have any sort of LA rule that helps them

Chargers are free on support squads now

Calivers are the worst of both worlds

>>51425269
Damn, that's fancy. How was that Macrocarid to build? Want a heavy tank for my Mechanicum that isn't a Baneblade, so it's down to that or a Malcador Infernus, because they both fit the Genetor theme.

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>>51423317
I may have went a tad overboard on the weathering

>>51428074

Congratulations squire anon, it actually looks like shit now

>>51427322
sounds good
>>51427976
>Chargers are free on support squads now
sheet.
i need that

thanks for the help anons

>>51426125
lmao what the fuck

>>51428115
Yeah, I'm running a ten man squad of them with an apothicary in my blackshields. T5 goodness.

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>>51426125
I want to slap NcNeil's face on Magnus here

>>51428145
>>51427322
oh and is the red book up todate

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>tfw cleaning all the resin from FW made you capable of submerging your hands in close to boiling water for quite a while without harm or discomfort

Hopefully this isn't one of the first signs of turning into a Salamander legionnaire

>>51428294
VULKAN

BOILS

>>51428294
that sounds more like iron hands

well, try not to lose your head over the ambiguity

>>51427984

It's very easy to build, the tracks are all one piece apart from at the rear where there's a small amount you have to glue on (as a single piece) and I had to do a bit of filing and filling to get them to fit nicely. I had to do a little bit of gap filling where the prow meets the body as well. It's a really nice model but honestly I don't think it's worth £90, it's actually really small considering what it's meant to be - the triaros has it beat in all dimensions except width. If it was like £75 I'd be happier.

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Ordered some shields from Shapeways this month. Apart from some minor relics left from the printing process the detail is pretty high, this is some future shit right here.

>>51428294

Why are you using water that hot, anon? In my experience warm water with some dish soap in is perfect, leave it to soak for 5 minutes and then brushy brush - this also has the advantage of not making your resin pliable and you accidentally bend something.

>>51425457
Honestly, they look better than the ugly ass plastic Thunderwolves.

>>51428294
>tfw burned the nerves in my hands out by constantly reaching into an industrial dishwasher as a dumb teenager
th-thanks vulkan

>>51423048
>Kill Russ because it's Russ
>Fuck Fulgrim because hes into weird shit
>Marry Sanguinius because most down to earth primarch

>>51428475
oh shit, are these from pop monkey?

>>51428294
Remember salamanders legionnaires also undergo a branding, in which they are burned painfully by words, so you need to read all the Nick Kyme books as well.

>>51428590
yessir

>>51428608
>so you need to read all the Nick Kyme books as well.
You monster.

I forgot, does CC have custodes?

>>51428615
sweet! no problem with stepping or anything?

if so, I'll be buying myself 20

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>>51428590
>pop monkey?
>>51428615

Speaking of salamanders, the Dunclossos of Rhodes sayeth:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lm_5NEPV-g

>>51428659
https://www.shapeways.com/shops/popbits?s=0

if anon tells me there's no big stepping issue or other surface problems... dropping bucks on this.

>>51428659
You're welcome, it's really good quality stuff.

https://www.shapeways.com/shops/popbits?section=%7C+Legions+of+the+Heresy&s=0#more-products

>>51428632
As you can see from the striped pattern there is very slight serration, but other than that they are fine.

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>>51428670
>>51428678

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>>51428678
>iron legion
>blood legion
>mech hand legion
>world wreckers

>>51428705
weird thing is, GW has already told him to discontinue a few of his bits. So... they are totally cool with the rest of the shop.

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>>51428697
Here's a larger image to show what I mean. Slap some paint and weathering on it and it will propably look allright.

>>51428722
>Question for 30k button-counters
As long as he's not infringing on their trade marks, he's not going to get in any real trouble.
Most of the iconography GW uses for the legions is relatively generic, so image marks are going to be a pain in the rear to enforce.
Recognisable to us, certainly, but not distinct enough to actually register.

>>51428074
Looks good in some parts (crotch plate) and awful in others (inner sections of pauldrons and ankles)

>>51428453
Excellent, I was worried that a design that cool would be very hard to build, since I have little experience with Forge World. Thought about a Triaros for a bit, but since I wasn't planning on running anything that could make use of the 20 slots I opted for the Macrocarid. Some Myrmidons in that thing should make an excellent Linebreaker and deathstar deterrent. 30k army in full coming soon, painting a Knight and an Elimination Maniple at the moment.

>>51426207
To be fair the thousand sons and Magnus were stockpiling people with psychic potential to teach them sorcery and everything on prospero was about sorcery and their applications, everything was to be burned.

>>51428935
>everything on prospero was about sorcery and their applications
There is a difference between using the warp and sorcery. Yes I know of that retarded GK codex that says differently but lets ignore that shall we, as otherwise all the Imperiums psykers and the Emperor use sorcery which is just silly.

The idea that the Emperor never thought teaching the psykers of the Imperium how to use their powers was worth his time never sat well with me. Surely he should understand how important that was. Either way though he made no attempt to stop Magnus for reaching out and attractive psykers to Prospero during the Crusade.

>everything was to be burned.
Nothing was to be burned actually that was on Horus's orders remember?

How essential is the metallic lustre to the visual identity of Alpha Legion on the tabletop? the background for my force is that they're a Destroyer Contingent and Specialist Weapons division, and I'm thinking the matte turquoise of highly oxidized copper/bronze as a base, coupled with a lot of rust and corrosion effects would look good. That blue/orange contrast, right?

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>>51427665

>>51429055
it shouldn't be. The Hydra motifs are more important. Even the colour wouldn't be critical, as references to different colours are plentiful in the big books (Amaranth for one).

>>51428475
> minor relics
There are leftover groves from the cutting/molding/whatever ALL OVER the surface of these bits (I bought some of the shoulder pads a year ago, and I can see them in your pic). It makes the paint job look like shit.

>>51428074
Jesus what a waste of an expensive model.

>>51428935
While we can surely all say that there were plenty of psychically resonant stuff and a high population of psykers on Prospero, let's not kid ourselves here and say that's a justification for genociding an entire planetary population and razing everything to the ground because muh maleficarum.
People up to Malcador have expressed regret over the level of destruction visited upon the libraries of Tizca and the knowledge lost.
No-one ever mentions the people because the 40K life is cheap thing crashed into 30K hard somewhere after the Drop Site Massacre, but even if you're a hardline dude, we're talking kids that could've ended up being astropaths or fuck, servitors if you're really grimdarkly minded.
Don't downplay a tragedy, it's missing the point.

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>>51429400
>>51428935
>>51426190

>>51429164
I take it the shouldpads had a horrible looking texture even when painted?

>>51428074
Looks like a knight of Nurgle.

>>51429184
Chinaman

so which culture(s) are the thousand sons based on exactly? trying to think of names that are not egypt-egypt-egypt

>>51429508
Persian/Iranian. Look to zoroastrianism for some other cool ideas.

>>51428797
Ill be honest i completely spaced out on the inside of pauldrons (non existing weathering there)
Litarally shit on the ankles? Guess the mud weathering worked XD

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>>51429529
awesome, ty

>>51429508
The Achaemenid Empire (google it), which included historical territories that today are
Iran
Iraq
Northern Egypt
Turkey
southern Georgia
and a tiny bit of India

>>51429449
Wanted to go for the 'been stuck in vraks for a while look' or ww1 Trench shithole

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>>51429550
>XD

>>51429148
>The Hydra motifs are more important
Some Alpha Legionaries are known to have worn an iron gauntlet icons. Some had even worn the agemo.

>>51429508
Hijacking your question, what is the culture of the Death Guard based on?

>>51429645
1348

>>51425047
>implying we won't do extreme vetting

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>Imperial army is sworn brothers to Alpha Legion
>Alpha legion is fellow warriors to Imperial Army

Can I make the solar Auxilia precursors to these guys? They apparently have a history going back to old night

>>51429588
And Syria and Israel and Armenia and Azerbaijan and most of the -stans and Bulgaria and part of Greece. And I'm sure I'm forgetting someone.

>>51427161
Not really. There's no indication that the SoH-style decorations came into use before Ullanor.

>>51429645
Britbongs for starters.

>>51429801
Names don't seem British desu, I was thinking more Slav

>>51429665
I mean, yeah that's true

>>51429769
god I'd forgotten these guys, fucking lol at the ultramarines falling for this shit

>>51429851
They're Brits. Particularly WW1 Britbongs.

>>51429851
Well, you could say Barbarus natives could have names from any culture that fought in WWI and it would work.
But Terran DG are Brits. Garro comes from Britain.

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>>51429936
>barbarus
>stinky
>babybel

checks out

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>>51429055

Not at all, AL is probably the most inconsistent with their colors anyway. Here's one of mine.

Any legion that resembles Dutch culture? I can't think of any that matches the Swamp Germans.

>>51429851
What do you think they're drinking?
Because the number of thing they drink that are tea ain't none.

>>51429790
Damn. I'm not in love with the sea green, and I'm not thrilled about eventually turning into eventual generic chaos guys. Though I do like their unique units, how they had access to basically every cool toy in HH, and that they were closely tied with the Blood Angels (my 40k army).

>>51429981
>irrelevant country that after centuries turns out to be really good at empire building if they get a kick up the arse
Word Bearers?

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>>51428878

Its very straightforward, these are my instructions.
I have a triaros as well for carrying around various things - sometimes it's a bunch of Thailand, other times its a tech priest auxiliary squad to buff up some thralls or fix things up. I also like putting one of my magos' in it with a bunch of scyllax for a wall of dakka.

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>>51429055

Not at all, my AL don't have any metallic in their blue

In fact AL don't even have to be blue, dark reddish purple or a copper bronze color are some of the extremes they can take

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>>51430043
That actually makes sense now that you mention it.

>>51430055
>bunch of Thailand

*thallax

>>51429981
Post-corruption Emperor's Children probably fit the Amsterdam cliché (sex & drugs) pretty well. I don't know enough about Dutch culture outside Amsterdam to make a more sensible comment. Maybe Iron Warriors for the earthmoving skillz involved in all the flood defences?

>>51429981
Some random chapter of the Imperial Fists could be fluffed up to have dutch traits, I would say.

>>51430055
>bunch of Thailand
Anon, why did you conquer most of Thailand?
>>51430076
I really don't know much about the Dutch besides Geert and windmills.

>>51430097
>fortified windmills

>>51430115
http://www.vuzllib.su/articles/577-Windmills_in_Fortifications_%E2%80%93_Jachimczyk_N_/1.html

>>51430100
Dutch culture is as follows
Windmills
Cartels
Cheating the Britbong out of viable trading ports by telling people they are Catholics.

>>51430156
Well didn't know that existed but thanks.
>>51430195
And doesn't Belgium and Flemish have to do something with it?

>>51430220

Kinda. The 80 years war was supported by cities in Flanders, however with the treaty of Westphalia, the Soutern Netherlands and Flanders were recognized as a Spanish possession, mostly due to Brussels being the Captital of Charles V only a few decades before.
Flanders later went over to the Austrian Habsburgs, who later lost it to the French.

>>51430280
Thanks, Anon. I might have to do some research on my own later.

>>51430280

Back to Anon's original question, I think Fists would fit the best, and fluff it as a Terran contingent drawn from that region only.

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>>51430315
So it shall be.

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Soldiering on with the boring models.

4 more done.

>>51429645
WWII Western Front, especially 1915-16.

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>>51430480
The other 2.

>>51430029
One option is to create an army that was in the SoH during the early Heresy, freaked out, bailed, and repainted their armor white with LW symbols. They'd still have the armor they had as Sons of Horus. You might even be deliberate crude in scraping off the eyes of Horus.

The original LW would have looked pretty generic.

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>>51429124
SW may have models, but at least we have helmets

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>>51430545

>>51430563

His rules are fucking awful

>>51430480
>>51430492
Its the little touches that do it for me Anon. Top work nigga.

>>51430563
Looking at that makes me kind of glad we havent seen an Alpharius model...

>>51430582
Because they are placeholders.

Although I think those rules would work for the jobbiest primarch.

>>51429645
I think they're kind of British, but not in a chirpy cheeky chappy way, more a we're-going-to-queue-in-the-rain-dammit sort of way. Their humour is extremely dry and sardonic, to the extent that outsiders don't always realise when they're making jokes, which also seems British to me.

But, really, I'm hoping for a Mortarion book like the recent Lorgar & Perty ones that explores the Death Guard's culture a bit more. At the moment they haven't been covered in a huge amount of detail, and when BL really kicks off on them it'll probably be all about the nurgle corruption.

>>51430489
That's not really a culture.

>>51430587
Cheers! Got 35 marines done now, at some point I need to go back and drill all the bolters...

>>51430480
>>51430492

nice, which colours do you use?

>>51430582
>literally called 'Get you by' Russ
No shit.
LEMAN RUSS, The Wolf King of Fenris, The Lord of Winter and Ruin, Primarch of the Space Wolves, The Emperor's Executioner, That Massive Asshole, The Brawler
Points 425 WS9 BS6 S6 T6 W6 I7 A6 Ld10 Sv 2+ 4++

Infantry (Character)
1 (Unique)

Wargear:
The Axe of Helwinter S+2 AP2 Master-Crafted, Armourbane, Unwieldy
Mjalnar, The Sword of Balenight S+1 AP2 Master-Crafted, Murderous Strike, Rending
Scornspitter 24" S5 AP3 Assault 2 Twin-Linked

The Armour Elavagar: Russ is provided with a 2+ Armour Save and a 4+ Invulnerable Save, in addition due to the unique exothermic field generators all models attacking Leman Russ suffer the Gets Hot! special rule on their melee weapons.
Frag Grenades.

Special Rules
Breaker of Shields: Leman Russ and his unit gets the Crusader and Hammer of Wrath special rules.
Bringer of Ruin: For one player turn per game all models within Leman Russ's detachment may re-roll failed charge rolls, and gain Hatred (Everything).
Bulky
Preferred Enemy (Primarch)
Primarch
Sire of the Space Wolves: Leman Russ has the Rage and Weapon Mastery special rules. All units with the Legiones Astartes (Space Wolves) special rule get +1 Ld and the Counter-Attack special rule.

>>51430696
that title

>>51430696
Did you make this up or do you know something I don't?

Looks about right.

>>51430746
>Did you make this up or do you know something I don't?

Both
I made them up, and unlike you, I know I did so

>>51430055
Nice, seems odd to have that few bits after the GW kits.

My Enginseer squad is probably going to hang back and fix stuff, as well as tank wounds for the Magos Reductor who needs to hang around the artillery and Thanatar and such anyway. Was thinking about just two Enginseers and 4 servo-arm bots, fairly cheap, two guaranteed repair to keep the tonks running and can smack something with power fists if they really have to. Archimandrite is grabbing a Graviton Imploder or something and chilling with the Myrmidons, or I'll get him a Vorax bodyguard.

Honestly not sure why Thallax need a transport, though. Mine will have Photon Thrusters and hop about taking potshots and scoring, I think. I have plenty of scoring from them and the Milita Levies or Adsec I'll be taking.

>>51430696
Bonus round.
May take Freki and Geri for 100 points.

FREKI AND GERI, the Wolf-Kin of Russ
Beast
2 (Unique)
Freki WS5 BS0 S5 T5 W3 I4 A3 Ld7 5+
Geri WS5 BS0 65 T5 W3 I4 A2 Ld7 5+

Wargear
Claws and Teeth (2x CCWs)

Special Rules
Brother of Russ: If Leman Russ takes Freki and Geri as a wargear option they are considered a unit, Freki and Geri do not prevent Russ from joining another unit and if he does so, they join the unit as well. In addition, if Leman Russ is wounded in a challenge before Freki and Geri's initiative step they may each direct one of their attacks at the model that caused the wound. This is always a single attack each, regardless of how many wounds Russ takes.
The Fierce: Freki's close combat attacks are resolved at AP3, in addition he has the Rampage special rule.
The Cunning: Geri's close combat attacks are resolved at AP3, in addition he has the Rending special rule.

>>51430692
Black primer, Leadbelcher spray. Nuln Oil wash (because of course) then Ironbreaker drybrush.

Agrax Earthshade painted on for shading, focusing on recesses the the bottom parts of panels, blending it upwards.

Relevant parts painted black again, sponge weathering is black too.

Hazards are Tausept Oche (oop), 50/50 Tausept and Hearthfire (P3 paint), then Hearthfire. Sponge with black, wash parts with Agrax.

Base is Agrellan Badland texture, Agrax wash, drybrush Baneblade Brown then Terminus Stone. Base rim black.

Red bits are Evil Sunz Scarlet, Agrax wash, Evil Sunz again, white dot.

That's pretty much it.

>>51430824
>BS0 65 T5
Which is to say, S6.

>>51430824
>Special Rules
Apex Predator: Fear tests against Horus the Warmaster are taken at -5Ld.

>>51430831
thanks mate.

>>51430802

I know, I'm still a bit underwhelmed. The lascannons it has are really fucking nice though.
I rarely put thallax in there, its normally if I want to keep them alive for a turn or so while the ursarax charge forward. If you ever face a blob army take a tech priest auxillia squad and give them all flamers, its hilarious to pop them out and burn something to death

I've found vorax aren't best used as bodyguards, you want them sneaking up on the enemy from various table edges and running in and raping shit, its what they're good at (I5 if you take the cybernetica cohort and rending lets them murder even heavy vehicles)

>>51430615
I also wish for this

They're my legion and not having anything to read about them is disheartening me.

>>51431056
They're Rending? Handy. List is currently looking like Cybernetica to start with then Reductor once I get the artillery converted and painted.

Did not realise the Macrocarid comes with the Lascannon as well, that will help. My Biologis blimp I'm planning at the moment will probably have a magnetised frame, for either two Havoc Launchers and a sensor package or four missiles and a twin lascannon on the front, so it can switch between being a Vulturax and a Lightning when required. Going to be interesting to build, since it'll need lots of plasticard.

>>51431221
They have the lightning cannon which is rending, then their melee at s6 i believe which is also rending. Always take the bio corrosive rounds on them too.

>>51431069
Yeah. The thing is, one of the reasons pre-corruption DG interest me more is because they're a force/organisation that doesn't exist in the 40k universe, and that's one of the core appeals of 30k for me. So I'm hoping we hear some more about them at some point.

>>51422923
What HH podcasts are even good?

>>51431549
I agree

The XIV are so under-represented considering they're in the top 50% of legions actually played and painted

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>>51430696
Is this placeholder rules or leaked Infero rules?

>>51432159
I think it's Anon's Madeup Rules.

>>51431910
Eye of Horus for entertainment, especially their special segments (Primarchs vs Cryptids, Primarchs vs History, cultural exchange episodes, episode 66(6)'s tarot segment...). But their focus is events and those segments aren't as interesting. They were the first really popular 30k podcast so you kinda have to check them out first.

Radio Free Isstvan for rules and list discussions (also a culinary and cultural exploration of the American Midwest). They know their stuff.

Age of Darkness for painting advice and fluff (they discuss a BL book every episode).

Sons of Heresy is promising for their introductions to specific armies, but I haven't listened enough yet. They're pretty new.

I haven't tried Northern Heresy nor Covenent of Fire. The others I've checked out were a little wanting, imo.

>>51432194
wut, can someone confirm this?

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Well, this made me smile.

Squats aside, what legion would this fit most with?

>>51432267
>>51430772

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>>51432272
imperial fists are manlets

>>51432278
Cheers

>>51432272
>I've come to drink beer and bust kneecaps, and I'm all outta beer