/swg/ - Star Wars General - Zen Archery Edition

>>51417502
Hey guys I've made a sniper themed seeker executioner for Force and destiny. I just got my force rating, dedication and that special talent where you can roll the force dice as part of your check and am debating what to do next. Should I take sharpshooter to hone my gun skills with those nifty talents, or should I focus on specializations that give me more force rating?

Is Dash Rendar the closest thing to Jack Burton in the Star Wars setting?

>>51417664
Why aren't you using a lightsaber/10

>>51417699
But b-but muh guns

>>51417699
can a light sabers kill a man at a hundred meters?

>>51417742
How hard can you throw one?

>>51417688
Jack Burton has 2000000000% more character than Dash. Dash is just every generic 90s protagonist with dumb shoulder pads

My PC's have a bunch of NPC rebel troopers they can command around and do jobs for them.

Recently they've begun to want to upgrade them. How would I go about that?

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>>51417502
Fucker spends 8 rounds stacking his bonuses before doing anything.

Doesn't matter if he's got a -60 because he's blind. 8 rounds of +20 bonuses will cancel that out.

And don't get me started on the dodge bonuses...

>flying nien numb, norra and a suicide raging proton torp A-wing against a poe and rey list
>a-wing dies before doing anything
>nien takes down poe then gets the crit that removes elite upgrade and pilot ability and gets instantly shot down by rey
>rey's down to 1 hull and no shields, norra still has 1 shield and all hull
>try to play cowardly and inch away to the edge of the board and force rey to come to me when I should obviously just k-turn and gun it in for the last shot
>fly a corner off the board and lose instantly like a fucking retard
Where's the best place to sell all my x-wing shit because clearly I'm too fucking stupid to play it. Ebay I assume?

>>51418449
>try to play cowardly and inch away
You weren't able to get a single hit through out of your rear firing arc while inching away?

>>51417664
Go Shaapshootser. Become the Wehrmacht specialist you were born to be.

Put blasters through people's eyes at 1km and do it using Holographic Ghillie, Camo Netting and a Personal Invisibility unit.

Be un-killable because you are un-findable.

>>51418496
Nope, he also just flew super slow so I only got one round of shooting in the whole time right before I went out and it was range 3 so he just rolled two evades and was fine.

>>51418541
If he was inching along like that then I think that means he wasn't taking your bait, anon. You should have changed your plans right then.

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>>51418449
Son, if you're going to sell things because you're too stupid to win, you're going to have to sell everything you own and live in the desert as a monk.

A really stupid monk.
Seriously though, that's an OK mistake to make. It happens.

>>51418563
Living as a monk in the desert is sounding pretty good about now

>>51418580
You say that, but your internet will be shit and it's hard to jerk it to dial-up tones.

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>>51418580
It worked out for Kenobi. Go give it a try.

Alternatively, a lot of Orthodox monasteries in North America are dying out. Go convert, learn some useful skills, and go join one.

>>51418346
Upgrade them in terms of skill or equipment?

>Skill
Sounds like a mission to find, recruit, and extract a military instructor sympathetic to the cause.

>Equipment
Daring raids on supply convoys or military warehouses

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Are there canonical "trinkets of moderate value" in Star Wars?

Stuff that a character might feasibly have in their pockets or on their ship that could be pawned for cash.

>>51418760
Deathsticks?

>>51418778
Eeh, I don't want to buy some deathsticks.

>>51418650
Wouldn't supply convoys just have E-11's? I think they'd be more looking for A280s or similiar.

>>51418991
There's always generic low-medium value gems or jewelry. Space-topaz, if you will.

>>51418996
Heavier weapons: heavy repeaters, e-webs, grenades, thermal detonators
Light vehicles: speeder bikes, troop transport speeders, maybe even some repulsor tanks or light walkers

And when your standard trooper is equipped with a blaster pistol, even a run-of-the-mill blaster rifle can be an upgrade. Uniforms and armor might be good for infiltration, too.

>>51417502
So I'm making a jedi in FnD and wanted to know if its not to strange to have a Shii-cho Knight with a lightsaber with a curved handle.

I think form 1's wild hacking and slashing techniques supplement a curved lightsaber. It also helps form 1's reliance in disarming opponents because of the strange angle the handle provides. Both form and curved lightsaber due bad when up against blaster.

If Ataru Striker focuses on multi-attack, what career focuses on single, powerful strikes?

>>51420391
Shii-Cho as far as I can tell, I care more for the mundane desu as Force users get boring after a while.

I don't understand why Warrior has Shii-Cho and not Juyo, since Shii-Cho is supposed to be the most barebones lightsaber style and Juyo the most violent.

>>51420891
Because Juyo is the one that only Darksiders and Mace Windu use, whilst Shii-Cho is the one that most resembles traditional swordfighting. Real Sith use swords

>>51420390
Even if it isn't sane, no one says your guy has to make good decisions. If that's their style, that's how they roll.

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>X-Wing community is absolute shit at naming lists.
I know it's not a big deal, but these lame-ass names are no fun.
"Dengaroo" worked because it's like "Brangelina," combining the names of a married couple. You don't have to slam "aroo" of fucking every list that runs her.

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>>51421159
>Even if it isn't sane

are Neb Bs good in armada? people keep saying they are crap at my LGS

>>51421449
Here' have a shit list with a good name
https://geordanr.github.io/xwing/?f=Rebel%20Alliance&d=v4!s!32:72:-1:15:;42:-1,-1,144,-1,-1:-1:-1:;74:-1,-1,-1,2:-1:-1:;3:-1,-1:-1:-1:&sn=ABe%27s%20EXoddus

>>51418601
>it's hard to jerk it to dial-up tones
The key is to unravel the mystery of the wet dream. Use the power of the Force to fap with nothing other than the power of your mind.

>>51421449
Legit the worst naming convention in X-wing along with bumpmasters

>>51422621
What's wrong with BumpMasters? It's not terribly clever, but it's a solid rhyme/word substitution that also tells you how the list plays.

>>51420964
But thats wrong. Mace rediscovered Vaapad - an offshoot of Juyo, and Juyo was used for a thousand years before that by light and darksiders. TOR has its Jedi using Juyo FFS

I don't know if it'd be better in here or a different thread, but I'm building a campaign/series of one-shots, and I'm looking for templates and pictures for military bases and/urban or city environments. Anyone have any suggestions?

>>51422700
I could also use some advice with customizing enemies for their encounters, if someone could help

>>51422677
I think you mean invented.

>>51420086
Alright, that sounds doable. Just get them to get one load of things per raid. Slowly build them into specforce

>>51422729
Yes I do.

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>>51422700
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>>51423067
>>51422700

Anyone here play Star Wars Destiny? Just bought a booster box after playing a game with the decks. Really fun game

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>>51423141
>>51422700

>>51421746

Those people are idiots, Ned Bs are fine, though usually you see them with either the salvation or yavaris title(the latter more than the former).

The main reason people say they suck is the huge vulnerable side arcs and the the lack of a redirect token, which means taking hits to the sides kills them very fast.

That said, they make great snipers and support ships, because they can stay back a red range with no drop in firepower, and keep their well shielded bow facing the enemy far easier.

>>51421159
>look at the time
Whew anon...

>no one says your guy has to make good decisions
Sooooooo...it is a good idea? *shrug*

>>51423635

Adding to that, the Salvation tile is the king of the sniper role (it counts crits results as 2 damage giving it a 1 in 4 chance of double damage on each die).

Yavaris on the other hand, is used for squadron double taps - any squadron that it activates can attack twice if it does not move.

There's also the Redemption title, but no one takes it.

>>51423142
yeah. had a couple games with a borrowed deck and recently picked upthe Villian stater deck.

Just gonna casualfag it and get the occasional single booster and build with what I have instead of buying whole boxes to get everycard.

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>>51418449
>nien takes down poe then gets the crit that removes elite upgrade and pilot ability
You deserve it for using the old damage deck, fuck sake

>>51423705
would the winged MC80 make a good team with a pair of Neb Bs to make a sniper team?

or should i just go imperial if i want to just shoot things out the front

>>51425324
Any MC80 you play, especially the winged ones, would be better off getting close and drawing enemy fire while the Nebs hang back and snipe.
Activate an MC80 with Overload Pulse first and you've got a good chance to exhaust all your enemy's defense tokens, making them prime targets for Neb sniping.

Does anyone have a scan of Savage Spirits that is actually legible?

>>51418601
I was a teen in the 90's, I still have a fetish for pixilated porn.

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>>51425863
Hah. Kids like you barely know the joys of busting a nut to distortion porn.

>>51425863
>>51425950
I remember a time when you had to go to a fucking sleazy sticky movie theatre to enjoy porn
I am very happy to have lived to this age

>>51424047
You know people with zero interest in TFA ships aren't going to buy that starter set just for a new damage deck.

Hell I wish FFG would release an official but optional era system just to make things more fluffy.

>>51420391
>>51420572
I'd say makashi, since it hat that finishing move at the end of the tree

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Alright, so I don't like flying palp defenders. Its strong and too simple for me to have fun with, so I've always flown variants and I've had a blast.

But I've been thinking of changing it up slightly (at least until I see what that new cannon is on the scum epic). Normally I have my 2 defenders and a support ship, but I've been considering either upgrading the pilots and/or dropping the support for straight damage. Which would be better?

My usual list:
>scimitar squadron pilot
Tie mk.ii engine
Tie shuttle
Fleet officer
>Countess Ryad
Tie/D
Ion cannon
Predator
>Glaive Squadron Pilot
Tie/D
Ion cannon
Predator

My idea for boosted pilots:
>Gamma Squadron Vet
Tie mk.ii engine
Tie shuttle
Fleet officer
Swarm Leader
>Maarek Steele
Tie/x7
Juke
>Rexler Brath
Tie/x7
Expertise

This way Rexler maintains full modification for pushing crits, and the shuttle can pretend to be a phantom.

And the idea to throw more red dice by dropping the support ship:
>Pure Sabacc
Adaptive Ailerons
Lightweight frame
Swarm leader
>Maarek Steele
Tie/x7
Juke
>Rexler Brath
Tie/x7
Predator

Brath loses most of his mods and in return Sabacc can throw 7 red dice at range 1.

What would you fly?

>>51426240
In the last regionals double defenders plus omega leader or quickdraw have been reasonably popular

>>51426240
If you're rocking Rex have ships shoot before him so they can eat up shields before he attacks. Tomax would be great here.

>>51426071
>Hell I wish FFG would release an official but optional era system just to make things more fluffy.
There's no real point, it'd just be printing out a list of which ships saw service when for people to reference, which people can already do on their own.

if to want to stick to a certain era just talk it over woth your opponent. in my experience most of the time people are haply to try out game varients or missions in a casual setting.

>>51426316
What did they put on quickdraw? Rage and baffles?

>>51426402
I would if I could. I like running Brath with RAC for that reason, but I'm fine with dealing crits on the second pass if I need to. Plus Brath can help chew away shields for Maarek's crit, and the shuttle/sabacc can pull shields off the next target or kill the critted ship if it isn't gone by then.

>>51418434
Do those other troopers even lift? they're tiny manlets compared to the spacetrooper.

>>51425968
I don't know easy access to porn has completely dulled me and has made me incredibly picky. I can fap to lesbian and gay porn and they have to be absolutely specific or I can't fap. Straight does nothing for me anymore and it sucks.

>>51426465
Expertise, lightweight frame and sensor cluster iirc

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>>51425968
No such entertainment where I grew up, best I could hope for was talking my neighbours older sister into showing you her bits.

How does my Scum list look? I'm new to X-wing.

https://geordanr.github.io/xwing/?f=Scum%20and%20Villainy&d=v4!s!126:37,39,113:-1:-1:;120:8,120,1,1,121:-1:7:;114:53,-1:-1:-1:;114:26,-1:-1:-1:&sn=Babby's%20First%20Scum%20list

>>51427362
A little bit all over the place, to be honest. Kavil works best with a tlt and no torpedo. If you're set on proton torpedoes, however, take extra munitions instead of the second one. Saves points.

The hwk doesn't seem to know what its doing. You need a focus for the turret, or an action for the saboteur. Either give him the moldy crow title so he can keep focuses stashed away, or consider a different Loadout. Autoblaster and saboteur is interesting, but forces you to get into range 1 to use it (where the hwk will die easily).

The black sun pilots usually can't do much due to their low pilot skill. They will need to get a target lock to fire. Either give them both feedback arrays to be easy blockers, or swap them for a super damage z: n'dru sulahk

Try this:
>Palob Godahli
Tlt
Saboteur
Black market slicers tools
Expertise (or predator or something)
>kavil
Tlt
Predator
R4 agromech
Engine upgrade
>N'dru
Lone wolf
Cluster missiles
Glitterstim
Guidance chips

>>51427628
Whoops also need experimental interface on palob to get the BMST and Saboteur off at once.

>>51427628
Alright, tried again.

https://geordanr.github.io/xwing/?f=Scum%20and%20Villainy&d=v4!s!124:54,0,38,-1:3:-1:;121:37,1,-1,118:21:-1:;115:26,-1:-1:7:;115:53,-1:-1:-1:&sn=Newfag's%20second%20attempt

Running Dash Rendar for the first time, later today (fat Dash).

Any interesting ideas for who to bring alongside him? I was thinking Corran Horn, but that seems a little too boring.

>>51427941
Dash/Corran is pretty standard but still fun to play. I like running Miranda loaded with TLT and bombs. Gives me late game regen power and crazy board control with all dem bombs.

>>51427941
I love my Nien Numb build

Stay on Target, Targeting astro, autothrusters, pattern analyzer

It's very non-boring.

>>51428113
Any idea how Miranda and Norra do when paired up together?

>>51428292
They are good on their own and they don't interact in any meaningful way so they are good but don't expect anything stellar.

>>51428607
I was thinking since they were both good late-game ships an opponent might feel like there's no good answer of which to target first.

>>51428672
They aren't that tanky though, they are both vulnerable to focus fire and can be erased one at a time in a couple turns. I think you should chose between one of them and either pair them with a bigger and tankier ship (like Rey for example) or put them with Biggs.

>>51427941
A Lothal Rebel with some cheap upgrades can be a big fat pain in the ass for the other guy. Miranda or Cornholio regenerating probably get you better bang for your buck though. Norra might fit too, though again less tactically agile.

>>51427919
Wingman and drea won't work well I think. She doesnt need actions, as she will always just take her constant target locks.

I can see what you are doing with dace for the extra bit of damage, but its not usually that effective. Ive never actually seen Dace on the table before. People just bring palob and torkil because their abilities are so good.

If you're set on bringing the two z's, ion pulse missiles should be swapped for assault or concussion missiles with the guidance chips modification. Concussion with guidance chips really hammers in 4 hits easily. Then you can give them feedback arrays so they aren't useless in combat.

I'm off to my first tournament tomorrow. I'm thinking of playing Countess Ryad, Tomax Bren and Pure Sabacc. Does that sound reasonable? I've not been doing this long but it's a casual event.

>>51429464
Hmm. Are you gonna be using Swarm Leader?

>>51429511
Maybe, I was going to put crackshot on Tomax. I think Pure Sabacc could be nuts though, with an early attack

>>51418635
>get him! he stole my B-Wingike

>>51429728
>>51429694
Ha, got 'im?

>>51429728
I guess Ctrl+S doesn't work anymore?

>>51429798
It does.

>>51429817
Third's a charm?

>>51429876
Fuck this gay Earth, why it works now?

Anyway, sorry my offtopic. Also dubs.

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Did anyone ever stat this thing fpr FFG? Or any of the other Mini-Rigs?

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>>51432027
We'll... some have appeared on the cards

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>>51432312

Anyway, I'm going to play x-wing tomorrow and have put this list together. Not played much so far, but any advice?

Tomax Bren (24)
TIE Shuttle (0)
Recon Specialist (3)
Tactician (2)
Crack Shot (1)

Countess Ryad (34)
TIE/x7 (-2)

Pure Sabacc (22)
Adaptive Ailerons (0)

Dark Curse (16)

Since C-ROC Cruiser is at the Printer, can we expect him in June or July?

>>51432027
>>51432312
Apparently that mobile Commander game made these two full canon.

Spacebump

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So was the color of the sandtroopers rudimentary desert camo or just their armors getting dirty?

>>51434402
They're in force arena now as well

>>51426240
Third list is still done better with Ryad + PTL and Vess + juke

>>51434515
the latter

>>51420891
Because Juyo is garbage.

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>>51434515
Both the Republic and the Empire tend to use camo mostly for topical/jungle environments.

The only exception would be Endor, which I would assume was due to arrogance.

>>51432736
Only stuff ive seen is late Q1 2017, has there been a delay?
Plannig on getting it for a mates birthday so hoping its not pushed back

>>51434647

Supposedly Emperor's finest are wearing white as a deliberate statement about how invincible they are they don't give a fuck if you see them - there are camouflaged Stormtroopers in both canons post-Endor where apparently some people learned their lessons.

Is there any material in Legends that explains where the Tho Yor originally came from before they landed on Tython?

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Anybody saved good raith seiner pastas?

>>51435427
>Seiner

Whiskey betrays me yet again

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>>51435427
I have the original and the best.

>>51435357
Nah, Scarif shows that Stormie's have camo available just as the clones of old did. Endor was a defeat caused by arrogance and underestimating the enemy, and this goes from the lowliest trooper to the Emperor himself.

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>oh boy oh boy a chance to finally see the T-21 in action in the big screen!
>never shown firing at all
Now we'll never know if it's supposed to be a space SAW or a portable blaster cannon.

>>51435795
It's clearly a spess machinegun support weapon.

I fucking loved Rogue One but it bothers me how good the Chinese guys machinegun blaster was. Why did no one else ever use one. Surely the Empire would have been them in every squad.

>>51435829
Might have been a fancy custom job which would be far too expensive to outfit an entire army with.

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>Drunk IRL /swg/ shitposting

>>51435829
it was a handcrafted masterwork weapon, made using ancient jeddhan techniques and folded 1,000 times, and attuned to the force

>>51435752

Eh, debatable - Shoretroopers aren't really camo they're just tan colored. There are canonical detachments said to have camouflage though, and in Legends post Endor even regular stormies learned to pattern their armor in Woodland at least.

The Scout troopers on Endor at least used to explicitly not because of the Emperor's raging overconfidence as you point out - and then after Endor I think the empire realizes this is a universally bad idea.

>>51436102
>white armor blends into snow, empire wins at hoth
>white armor doesnt blend into forest, rebels win at endor

So you guys that do the FFG table top, do you have to stick strictly to old and new canon planets, or can you also run a campaign in your own "uncharted planet" with its own custom fauna?

>>51434647
What was the purple supposed to blend into?

>>51436208
>Purple one
That's a Galactic Marine, you fuck

>>51436191
its a big universe, there is even an NPC whose job is to find and discover new planets, in addition to planets that were nominally discovered but still under the radar

>>51435911
kek

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>>51436191
FFG systems are usually designed so that you can easily homebrew whatever you need, they just have this weird autism where they insist players use their stupid OC donut steel settings (or in this case 1 ABY).

>>51435849
You're drunk bud, go home

>>51436242
>>51436262
Okay, cool. I recently joked around with a fake world on that (now archived) thread about the GM who was running a space opera setting and said "[their] players are tired of playing on planets, space stations, and ships" and wanted advice on what to do, and I went and got myself interested in my own OC Donut

>>51436325
i try not to include major movie worlds, and keep things to the periphery, and include biomes we didnt get to see in the movies, like a planet-sized spacecraft-boneyard or a planet of steppe

but i try not to overstate the importance of whatever planet my party is on

Do you let your party ruin canon by interacting with existing people/locations/events in ways that would derail the films?

>>51436428
I prefer to give my party a "B-plot" to the main story, often hearing about Luke and company's exploits through the newspaper and holonet

>>51436307
B-but karaoke!

>>51436442
Its karaoke night? I thought it was trivia

>>51436428
I try to avoid directly interfering in events mostly to avoid metagame thinking. But if stuff overrides canon I am totally cool with it.

>>51436439
I'm the same, but if the players' actions in their b-plot ruin the setup for future events, I don't mind.

Like, I'm currently running them through Jewel of Yavin, which takes place on Cloud City, and if they decide to, for whatever reason, kill Lando or otherwise ruin the setup for ESB, who cares?

>>51436452
>not playing trivia karaoke

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>>51436486
I've got three words that'll solve all your problems.

Human.
Replica.
Droids.

>>51436486
obviously they only thought they killed lando, and he got better

>>51436528
Who cares if the movie events that the players have no involvement in can't happen though?

I'd much rather roleplay out the consequences of them upsetting the entire political structure of Cloud City and probably becoming highly wanted criminals. It sounds fun.

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>>51436528
MERELY A SETBACK

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>>51435829
That's because it was a jury-rigged HBR.

And the imps have a similar sort of warcrimes-inducing weapon, the Imperial Heavy Repeater.

What happened to all the high quality scans we used to get? All the recent books look like trash.

>>51437174
>All this free stuff isn't what I want!

Be that change you want to see in the world

>>51437435
no u

>>51436208
>'E doesn't know dat purple is da stealfy kolour

>>51437435
I'm not like, banging my fists on the table or anything. I'm just wondering what happened. Did the guy who used to scan everything and post it up to KAT just go off the radar?

The Savage Spirits scan is genuinely unreadable in places, it looks like the person who scanned it smeared their scanner in vaseline before turning it on. I mean, I appreciate the effort, but I don't know how you fuck up that bad.

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>>51436208
The Third Street Saints, presumably.

>>51423142
I'm in. I've bought both Destiny starters and 10 boosters but still need more to make a competitive deck. About half your deck should be dice cards. Did an OP tournament having just played one game with a friend so went 0-3 but still had fun and defeated a character game, so even for a noob with "hope for the best" deck you can still feel like you have a chance at winning for most the game. I have some rule questions:

1. General Grievous' Action states "Before an opponent’s character is defeated, you may move one of their non-ability upgrades to this character."
Does General Grievous have to be the one to defeat the character to trigger this or can any scenario in which an opponent's character is defeated trigger it?

2. I forget the specific card, having only play 4 games, but an Event let's you force an opponent to discard cards equal to a number shown on x type of dice. If that dice has already been actioned and returned to the relevant card, does it still have a value/number? And thus be used for that Event?

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Guys I did a thing

>>51437978
Did your GM shit himself?

>>51437978
The odds were almost 50/50 for you to succeed, not that hard.

>>51438049
3 hits and a crit on a 5 red challenge sounds pretty impressive

>>51438065
Red dice are just inverted yellow dice. If you'd ugpraded that last green your odds would literally be 50/50. And with that many yellow dice, roughly 1/3 of your rolls are gonna throw triumphs.

For the life of me, I can't find stats for the YV-666 in EotE, where is it statted?

>>51438123
It isn't. Someone on the forums might have made fan stats though.

>>51438123

It'll be in No Disintegrations, which isn't out yet. If you saw stats before, they're homebrewed.

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Is it me or does it seem alot better to focus on using exp on characteristics instead of skills or talents at character creation? Characteristics seems to be more important than skills and harder to increase them. I especially consider it important for droids.

>>51438147
This is a widely accepted fact, yes.

>>51438139
>>51438143
It's in Shipfag's Hanger, for some reason I couldn't see it.

>>51438147
Objectively.

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>>51438225
>>51438233
Also is there any precedent of force using jawas? After seeing artwork I kind of have the urge to play as lightsaber using shortstack. And if not is there any cool shortstack jedi that are not Yoda's species?

>>51438147
Skills and talents can be bought after your first session, characteristics can take half a campaign to increase.

>>51438279
>Also is there any precedent of force using jawas?
Literally who cares? Also, yes. http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Akial

>>51438279
If i remember correctly, in to Old Republic MMO, there was a sith experiment on Tatoonie to either create force capable jawas or train already force sensitive ones. Been a while since I've done that mission, so I can't remember 100%, but there is precedence for force related jawas

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>>51438314
Well my GM is kind of a hard ass when it comes to canon unfortunately.

>>51438337
Then that page doesn't matter because it's only legends.

>>51438337
According to canon, any sentient species can produce Force Sensitivity. Tell that to your GM.

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>>51438381
Oh really I thought some species force connection is too weak to become jedi.

>>51435829
Jury Rigged Auto-Fire, awesome but imbalanced.

>>51438381
Give me a citation on that one, homeboy.

>>51438413
the force is created by life, to be cut of from the force is to be dead

>>51438337
Your GM sounds lame.

>>51438430
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Ysalamiri
:^)

>>51438457
who the heck are these guys?
are they still canon?

>>51438482
No.

>>51438482
Look just above where the picture is on the page. Does it say Canon or does it say Legends?

>>51438437
Well he is only that way because we happen to have this player in our group who wants to add blatant non canon shit to our games. I am talking about her character found a omnitrix from ben 10 level noncanon shit. So my GM forbid her from doing that shit and she throws a fit about him allowing another player to play as a Mando Wookie so he said screw it and put the canon clause to our group

>>51438570
now why didn't he just kick this motherfucker out?

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>>51438570
I guess this means playing as a Jedi astromech is out of the question, then?

>>51438570
>a omnitrix from ben 10
Why would any player think that's okay? Literally >>>/gaiaonline/

>a Mando Wookie
Why a mando wookie and not just a wookie gadgeteer? Like, what the fuck?

>>51438591
>Why a mando wookie and not just a wookie gadgeteer? Like, what the fuck?
In the EU Mandalorians could come from any race.

>>51438636
Crusaders only true Mandos. Mandalore the Indomitable best Mandalore.

>>51438457
Ysalamiri did not actually negate the Force; since all existence was infused with Force energy,[4]

Try harder

>>51438751
Taung only true Mandos.

>>51438636
Wookies have their own clearly defined culture and code of honor, the odds of defection are low.

>>51438762
>Try harder
I didn't want to do this, but Yuuzhan Vong

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Ask a very drunk man thinks about the Star Wars universe.

See how it goes.

>>51438784
I thought the final verdict on them was that they were a wound in the force not actually outside of the force.

>>51438832
The final verdict is that they're stupid and unlikely to be accepted back into canon.

Regardless, the force isn't created by life, it just connects it, and there's a non-zero chance than midi-chlorians for one reason or another do not reside in members of certain species.

>>51438579
He likes her obviously. We all hate her fucking guts but the GM wants to fuck her so. At least he wasn't beta enough to allow her to have a fucking omnitrix though
>>51438583
Yep haha
>>51438591
I have no idea why? I guess he wanted to be a special snowflake.

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>>51438897
The Force seems to be "whatever the plot requires it to be". As this is /tg/, I wouldn't worry too much about it. Just pick whatever elements make sense to you and form a nice thematic story.

Oh and another time this bitch convinced the GM to allow her character to be a goddamn Bene Gesserit. She didn't even try to mask her character or make it fit in star wars other than maker her a Zeltron. This forced the GM to homebrew a whole class who turned out to be OP as fuck. I purposely got my character killed that campaign.

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>>51438981
Why do you game with these people?

I mean, if it's your kink, ok, sure, but if not, find better friends.

>>51438964
Well yes, that's why I initially said "literally who cares." After that it was more a question of absolutes in lore than playability at the table.

>>51438981
Find a new group.

>you will never play a campaign or even read a EU story that bridges Legends and new-Canon in the vein of Star Trek 2009

>you will never see Jaina fade away and in her place is Rey

>you will never see Brakiss's plans and manipulation by the Empire fall and Jacen's anger fall onto Kylo Ren

>you will never see Mara Jade again

>>51439011
>you will never play a campaign
Why not?
>altering the future with time travel
I seriously hope you do not do this.

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>>51439011
Ok.

>>51439003
Exactly. That's why I prefer a Fate system with a nebulous, mystic "Force" skill. What does it let you do? Force things. Can you use it all the time? Fuck no, Vader will turn up and slice you in half.

>>51438949
>>51438981
clearly at this point your only option is to let the liquor do the thinking and smash the gas and ride it into crazytown
precede each session with an hour of eurobeat and a fifth of Wild Turkey and all will be well

>>51439000
>>51439003
I want to but holy shit it was hard to find this group in the first place. All my normal friends are either to normy or to lazy to play a ttrpg. The best we do is play star wars risk and catann and shit. Have no idea where I can find a group to play because I really love star wars and this system is probably my favorite

>>51439039
Ask around at work, offer beers and pizza. If that doesn't work you could always try roll20 gamefinder.

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>>51439039
No such thing as too normy. Just pick the right game.

Can't fix lazy.

Find normal friends. Become BEST GM. Train normal friends. Get BEST GROUP.

>>51438822
Would you a Bothan?

>>51439091
To the death, desu.

>>51439091
not even with a rented dick

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>>51439039
Magic 8-ball says "corrupt your normal friends into TTRPG's"

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>>51439091
Obviously.

If it has an erogenous zone, some form of manipulator, and desire, we'll get along just fine.

>>51439127
>If it has an erogenous zone, some form of manipulator, and desire, we'll get along just fine.
>arousedDianoga.jpg

>>51439054
>>51439068
>>51439122
Well what's the worst that could happen? Might as well try because this current group is pretty cancerous.

>>51438784
>the odds of defection are low.
but non-zero, a mando wookie is just rare not impossible

>>51438822
Why do you get drunk? That is a sin where I come from

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>>51439148
Oh please. There are commercially available rubber items for that. You're not even trying.

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>>51439176
It was Burns Night on the 25th. And while I might dislike his poetry, I can't argue with a good scotch.

>>51439164
Exactly. Fuck 'em.

>>51439091
>having to pick the race that's all about being sneaky and backstabby

Can't I just pick the more catgirl races

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>>51439148
>>51439180
Well a werewolf rebellion pilot fell in love and fucked this ugly piece of shit

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>>51439191
>having to pick the race that's all about being sneaky and backstabby

Fucking.... authors man.

"Ooh, the one nebulous mention of this thing in the films was all we knew about them. Let's make it THEIR ENTIRE SCHTICK!"

Happens all the fucking time in Star Wars. It's bullshit. It's lazy writing, it's bullshit, and I loathe it.

>>51439170
Seems dumb to me, but only the kind of dumb that would make an anime girl puff her cheeks in frustration.

My real outrage does to omnitrix girl instead of just playing a clawdite or something. That's a mind boggling level of disrespect for the system, the GM, and every player who showed up to play star wars, not fickle fuck's fantasy of the week.

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>>51439203
Meh. It's a big galaxy. Who gives a fuck?

Either it's an interesting story or it's irrelevant.

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Hey-o /swg/,
Attack Shuttle related query for X-wing.
Have you ever used it and either: really enjoyed flying it, or: found a competent and effective build? (Or some combination of those).

I've taken it a couple times, but mostly Zeb to unlock the double tap Ghost. When I do undock it, i feel like it could have potential, but just can't figure a solid build.
I've read stuff about a Sabine+PTL+debuffing crew, but even then her PS5 makes me hesitant.
What have you guys found? I'm interested to hear!

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>>51438822
How about its a trap?

>>51417502

I went ahead and bought some of the remaining imperial units I've missed over the past couple releases... Out of those are the Bomber, Defender + Bomber upgrade, Striker and a handfull of First Order.

Can I make a decent list outta this? Any crucial components I'm missing?

One thing that pisses me off is that I have only a single cannon to choose from as well as one crew card -- they have an upgrade that lakes me take TWO crew, but the only supplied a single one. Fuck.

Oh and I bought a Punisher too. I kinda want to run a fat ass Punisher and Captain Janus in a bomb shuttle.

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>>51439228
What part of
>If it has an erogenous zone, some form of manipulator, and desire, we'll get along just fine.

Do you not understand?

It could be a trap. A double reverse trap. An orthogonal gender. An inverted nega-gender. Whatever.

If it meets the above criteria, we can bang.

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>>51439216
Its irrelevant but the florn lamproid was force sensative and was in the cantina scene in Star Wars. I can't remember whether wolfman was as well

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>>51439245
And that's the other fucking thing. Every single character who shows up for more than a second gets to be the protagonist of their own story.

How many characters at that goddamn cantina had epic adventures? Too damn many.

No author ever went "Oh yeah, there's bat-face-dude. He works in Sales. He'll die at age 60 of bat-cancer, having lead an uneventful life."

Nah. They've ALL got to own the Millennium Falcon or steal ancient Sith secrets or marry Dengar or some shit.

Lazy-ass authors, trying to have too many protagonists and forgetting /why/ there are protagonists.

>>51439290
I find it funny Disney jettisoned the old canon to avoid this problem, but the way they're having all the background characters star in galaxy-shattering arcs is making history repeat again.

Meet the new Darth - same as the old Darth.

>>51439236
Defenders with the X7 title are brilliant- some of the most dangerous ships in the game right now. Ryad in particular.

A mini-swarm of TIE Fighters, either regular or FO can be a pretty decent thing to team it with.

I haven't had much success with Imperial bomb lists- without something like Sabine crew to enhance the damage output they tend to be a little lackluster. Full on missile and torpedo spam can be pretty good. Crack Shot on Tomax Bren is really, really good, since you can keep pushing damage through.

The TIE Striker is incredibly maneuverable, but not really all that survivable (two agility and no shields is gonna do that.) On the other hand, Pure Sabacc is real great when you want to roll a bunch of red dice.

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>>51439299
It's the eternal temptation of parasite authors.

Can't invent your own story? Latch onto an existing story and fill in the gaps.

Nobody wants to write the story of "Rathtar, the guy who hauled ore for 40 years and then retired.". Everyone wants an epic tale of adventure. They're right... but they don't need to do it in this setting.

But because they're parasite authors, they will try. And thus, we end up with the same stories told over and over again.

>>51439310
I mean, to be fair, the story about the Death Star gunner was pretty fucking wrenching, and Boba Fett hunting down the demon war criminal was interesting.

It's a consequence of how pulpy and Raygun Gothic Star Wars is, harkening back to the days where Flash Gordon gathered heroes to fight against threats, where being a cargo runner wasn't being bored, maybe getting high on various illicit space drugs, shagging space prostitutes, and shit talking people on space HAM radio - you were helping the natives with their load as you fought off pirates or alien scum that has hijacked your crew, with a loyal crew by your side.

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>>51439333
The problem is that there are TOO DAMN MANY stories.

Everyone gets a story! Everyone!

And yeah, sure, it's raygun gothic, but if you decide that every single character in Star Wars is deserving of their own tale, rather than being background to someone else's tale, you end up with the incestuous boondoggle of canon you have now.

>>51439310
>>51439347
Of course the first nuCanon Mando MC is going to become Mandalore, because that's the only cool thing we can do with them. Crusaders still best, fuck Supercommandos, Deathwatch for life.

>>51439356
She's not even an interesting Mandalorian either. I just hope that they have to go find Mandalore's armor to make her claim legit instead of her using that outdated lightsaber.

>>51439347
Eh, to me, as long as they don't get fucking kudzu-y and involve a trillion billion Death Star ripoffs and explaining how Rey got her name or the one time they crossed paths with Luke, I'm cool with it. Side stories help to flesh and fill out a setting when done right, and as much as a lot of die-hard movie-only nuts know, there's not all bad in the old EU - Mara Jade, Thrawn, etc.

>>51439190
Now i'm curious, was Star Wars Rebellion what cemented VSD as key bombardment tools, or was that established beforehand somewhere?

Shit X-wing list coming through:
https://geordanr.github.io/xwing/?f=Rebel%20Alliance&d=v4!s!31:205,72:-1:15:;41:-1,36,110,-1,-1:-1:-1:;74:18,36,-1,148:-1:1:&sn=ABEs%20Odyssey
Basically the thought process behind this is I haven't used my E-wing yet and I've barely used my B and A wings so I wanted a list that used them all and had some synergy to it rather than just being like Corran and two naked generics or whatever.

Anyone got any ideas for some tweaks to it? It doesn't really seem like any of the other B wing pilots have any synergy with Etahn and neither do any of the A-wing pilots so all I can think of to do differently would be to drop the attempt for synergy for just a more even distribution of points with a cheaper B and pricier A.

>>51439226
sabine +ptl is a solid build even at PS5. she'll still be going before most generics.

I've found that people pretty much never fly it actually docked to the ghost, often they even only fly one or the other.

>>51439309
i'm underwhelmed by the striker. I feel like it needs a different bar of upgrades.

i have always wanted to run a Jonus list, I built one a long ass time ago with 4 bombers. I agree that the missile and pedo spam can work, but I REALLY want to try out all these cool new bomb types -- plus there's that one guy that can deploy in front of him? That shit is dope!

I think he's a punisher.

>>51439236
I've had good results with a pair of proton torp guidance chips punishers flying with jonus with crackshot and homing missiles.
should run much thensame with 2 bombers and 1 punishers.
everyone has seismic charges and jonus has an ion bomb jusy for utility.

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>>51440041
fuck yes, that's what i like to hear!

I think surpisingly out of my 4 normal ties, three bombers and two odd balls, I have a decent spread to list buold with. The one thing I had wished I had was more cannons and crew cards to work with. I might just buy a Firespray again, or a lambda.


Looking forward to Kylo Ren's ship, even though I haven't been keeping up with what it can do yet.

>>51440075
if you just want more cannona the m3a does come with an ion, mangler and Flechette cannons.
though its a Scum ship so dunno how much you want to by a ship just for its cards.

>>51435426
I don't think so, if it is, it's not in the comics. Also I think Dawn of the Jedi was supposed to be longer and to cover this kind of thing, along with the schism war, but it stopped when it was shutted down.

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>>51439011
>Jaina fades away and in her place is Rey
WE HAVE TO GO BACK

>>51440075
if you want a bomber list here's how'd do it with the ships you have. Basically just swapped my second punisher for tomax as your second bomber.
to fly this is a jousting list, deploy in close formation along one side of the board, makes flying into your side dangerous with your ion bomb.
Otherwise just pick something and hammer it with all your ordnance, jonus rerolls+guidence chips and proton torp rule mean you'll reliably throw 4 hits with each attack.

Unnamed Squadron (98)

Captain Jonus — TIE Bomber 22
Veteran Instincts 1
Extra Munitions 2
Homing Missiles 5
Ion Bombs 2
Guidance Chips 0
Ship Total: 32

Black Eight Squadron Pilot — TIE Punisher 23
Fire-Control System 2
Extra Munitions 2
Proton Torpedoes 4
Seismic Charges 2
Guidance Chips 0
Ship Total: 33

Tomax Bren — TIE Bomber 24
Crack Shot 1
Extra Munitions 2
Proton Torpedoes 4
Seismic Charges 2
Guidance Chips 0
Ship Total: 33

>>51439905
Oh? I may have to give Sab another look then. Do you have any recommendations for her crew or turret slot?

What do when 75% of a party is combat focused?

>>51439226
Ezra+TLT+PtL+Chewbacca+Hull Upgrade is hilarious in lategame.

>>51439209
>"Ooh, the one nebulous mention of this thing in the films was all we knew about them. Let's make it THEIR ENTIRE SCHTICK!"

>Happens all the fucking time in Star Wars. It's bullshit. It's lazy writing, it's bullshit, and I loathe it.

Yet when they've made Mandalorians somewhat differ from Boba Fett's schtick, there was an outrage.

>>51440852
I like to think of Mandofags as their own separate part of the fandom that should be ignored.

How would you stat a Corusca gem? I'm running Jewel of Yavin and one of my players may wanna break the gem apart to use it for lightsaber purposes.

I'm thinking it should be on par with Krayt pearls considering how rare it is.

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>>51441056
Sad thing is that the whole mando thing could be kind of cool, but the people who are really into it are sometimes fucking obnoxious.

>>51441302
Fairly rare, extremely expensive and given they can be used in a lightsabre, probably kind of quasi-legal during the Empire era. Bit hard to really think of anything which would set them apart from an Ilum crystal
Though if you're just spitballing a few ideas, its mostly a quid-pro-quot of having a special quality, an equivalent damage and some kind of adjustment of the latter to avoid any gratuitous silliness, they're already fucking dangerous enough

>>51441550
>probably kind of quasi-legal during the Empire era.
That's why the one in Jewel of Yavin is being sold; an Imperial bureaucrat owns it, but now Sheev has made them contraband, he's trying to auction it off in the Outer Rim to turn his showpiece into some cash.

>>51438897
The Force is, in canon, created by life. Life creates it, and it also creates life in a great big circle of liiiiiiife.

Yoda even says to Luke that life creates the Force, which is just him repeating what he was told by some Priestesses on a planet known as the Wellspring of Life.

>>51432332
If you want a budget Ryad she still wants Juke, she really benefits from the offensive boost.

>>51440765
Have a combat focused story like 90% of Star WARS dumbass.

>>51441803
But what about the remaining 25% of the party?

>>51441831
>How to DM

Just learn how to run a game in general, numbskull.

>>51441831
It doesn't take a Doomguy to know how to throw grenades.

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>>51441856
It was just if anyone had ideas or had been in the same situation before.
Sorry, man.

>>51440765
Design combat encounters where the non-combat characters can still contribute in a meaningful way.

What do the non-combat PCs do?

>>51439347

I remember reading a mediocre short story about the cantina band.

>>51441902
>What do the non-combat PCs do?
Fly the ship and repair things.

>>51441945
Write encounters involving vehicular combat. Maybe swoop bikes? Fights between two big repulsorsled platforms?

Mechanics can have a ton of uses in combat, too. Shutting doors to cut off enemies, manipulating machinery to hinder/kill them, etc.

Also consider making the non-combat PCs the focus sometimes. Maybe your mechanic has to do a lengthy repair job, while the other players hold off waves of Stormtroopers from advancing.

>>51442003
Thanks, man!

>>51442015
No problem. If you're struggling for ideas, the class specific splatbooks are full of useful GM advice for campaign design to pander to specific classes. Special Modifications has tons of cool stuff for mechanics.

Should I get into X wing or Armada?

>>51442130
x-wing

>>51442130
X wing for sure. Just go to your lgs on x wing night before getting in

>>51442198
They don't have one. Only mtg jews with their 5K$ decks or something. I'm trying to get people to start playing those games since miniatures look awesome

>>51442208
like a 80s drug dealer, start em off with simple 1 X-wing vs 2 TIES like with the starter set, and slowly ratchet them up to 100 point matches, until they feel compelled to buy their own starter sets

Does anyone remember that one tabletop game book that had tons of info on stuff like Mortis? Is there a PDF of it or something? I'm thinking that info may be canon because Pablo works with the tabletop guys so I want to read it since I'm autistically obsessed with lore.

>>51442353
There's info on Mortis in Nexus of Power for the FFG RPGs, is that what you mean?

Speaking of X wings, I'm thinking of getting my first large ship and I am wondering if they are much harder to fly than regular ones?

>>51442378
I think so. Thanks.

>>51442353
None of the tabletop stuff is canon, but the book you're looking for is Nexus of Power.
Even though TCW is still canon, the Mortis arc is shaky at best.

>>51442386
I can screencap the pages if you like.

>>51442396
That would be awesome. Thanks.

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>>51442401

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>>51442422

>>51442383
They have some getting used to but they are fun to fly

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>>51439356
>liking Death Watch
fite me fgt, True Mandos 4 lyfe

>>51442442
Sounds good. I'm thinking of getting the Shadow Caster if anyone here has some thoughts on it. I've heard the punishing one is quite good but the weird dial doesn't look good for someone who hasn't been playing for too long

>>51442422
>>51442432
Thanks!

>>51442491
hounds tooth is fun if you have a lot of scum cards to make it the party bus.

>>51441945
>Fly the ship
If you've got the agility to fly a ship you've got the agility to shoot a gun. The real question is what to do with the face beyond spamming Fire Discipline.

>>51442516
I have all the cards to make it but I'm worried it is too powerful for a more casual group. It looks trickier to fly too since it is not really mobile

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>>51442468
>not continuing Crusader masterrace legacy
ok

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>>51441941
Go look up their wookipedia articles. They have more written about them than a fair number of historical figures. It's ridiculous.

does anyone have a good floor plan of the blockade runner?

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>>51441941
>Hates a lighthearted comedy about a bandleader with a gambling problem taking a wedding gig despite Jabba's wrath.

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>>51442742
http://thompsonpeters.com/eote/deckplans_capital/

First one here.

>>51442773
huh, looks fatter and shorter here

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>>51442742

>>51442773
I thought the blackade runner was the CR 90?

>>51442814
The attachment was actually an accident, the floorplan in the link is different. More options though, I guess?

Is there anything on the Bothans during the Clone Wars? I wanna know if a Bothan Separatist is a decent character concept or not.

>>51443074
>http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Bothan#Appearances
No.

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>>51443093

>clawdite thief can upgrade their deception against being identified three times on their second session provided they got 5XP from the first

I want to play a furry in EotE. What's the best furry species in SW?

>>51442836
Is that official?

And where's the hallway where the Stormtroopers broke into the Tantive IV? I thought it would connect to the main corridor but I don't see it

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>>51443419
Play a selonian if you really want to magical realm people.

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http://www.colonialchrome.co.uk/Pages/Root_1_A_Starships.html

Just found a page of very nice designs and floorplans for smaller ships.

>>51442836
>>51443425
also where are the crew quarters?

>>51443419
Cathar.

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>>51443470
>Cathar
Remove cat. Destruction of Kilrah best day of my life.

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>>51442742

>>51443470
>tfw Juhani had a lot of potential but was fucked by having almost all of her content cut

I want to play totally not Juhani in FaD someday. Do Cathar even exist in the OT era?

>>51443531
>The planet was conquered by the Mandalorians during the Battle of Cathar, leading to the enslavement and near-extinction of the Cathar species. The few survivors were forced to flee offworld to survive. After the end of the Mandalorian Wars Cathar began to resettle their world and by the time of the Galactic Civil War, it had fully recovered from the damage the Mandalorians had done.

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>>51443503
Did someone say Cathar?

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>>51443582

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>>51443582
>>51443620

>>51440462

I really appreciate the list, and it all looks quite solid -- now I just have to trackdown THREE fucking copies of Guidance chips, two extra extra munitions, the crackshot and firecontrol.

Fuck.

I have no idea if my FLGS allows proxying cards, I have the damned ships and all the proper tokens at least.

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>>51443777
>Guidance chips

Not using the superior version.

Are Aqualish supposed to be spiders or sea lions?

>>51444046
both, plus some gorilla thrown in the mix.

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>>51443470

New thread

>>51444375

>>51435829
>It's clearly a spess machinegun support weapon.
Not really, nucanon is rather ambiguous there.

>>51443777
>>51443777
most places I've found are fine with proxied cards outside tournament games.

especially if you say you're trying out a new list idea.

as for where to get the cards you should have got crackshot in the imperial veterans box, the Tie phantom has fire crontrol system and Inquisitors tie has guidance chips.
Punisher is the only imperial ship with extra muntions.