/srg/ - Shadowrun General

>>51401232
Exactly as the other guy said;
>Move-by-Wire when FAST is not fast enough and essence is overrated.

Is there a magical way to make a character more resistant to bullets but leave them vulnerable to melee?
>>51401245
<edgy voice> I have lost the thing most precious to me. My life.
Seriously tho, playing a vampire is so much fun.

>>51401245
Is there an actual story behind that pic?

Anyone have ideas or crazy RL examples for a p2.0 social media page?

>>51401338
katawa shoujo
aka "Cripple Love Simulator"

>>51401245
>What have you lost?

Any hope of turning my kektastic group of tards away from going full Pink Mohawk as their Plan A. I'll give them credit though, they take the bloody consequences in good spirits. Apparently they have no problem with losing at least one PC per run.

Is a combination of Rating-1 Synaptic Boosters and an Autoinjector of Jazz acceptable for a street-sammy's initiative-dice at character-creation?

>>51401303
Nah, MBW 5e is still like that.

>>51401245
i lost my hmhvv virginity and became a nosferatu

>>51401338
Code Beige

>>51401561
>replying without context
MBW is the most reliable initiative aug in 5e, not the fastest.

MBW 5e gives no init dice at rating 1, and only +1d6 at rating 2 & 3. It does give +3 init and +1 reaction per rank. +12+1d6 is absolutely for flat, reliable initiative scores.

Contrast with Wired Reflexes, that gives +1 Reaction and +1d6 per rank = +3+3d6, and can take Reaction Enhancers for another +3. It has a wider range of potential than MBW, but sometimes you'll roll shit and end up worse than MBW.

>>51401751
Nope. That's still pure fast.

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>>51401751

>>51401751
>Nope. That's still pure fast.
... Dude. Be a chummer, not a shitter.

+13-18 Initiative

Or

+9-24 Initiative

Which one can go faster?

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>>51401835
>>51401751
and now with the reaction enhancers

>>51401391
>The synaptic booster cannot be combined with any other form of Reaction or Initiative enhancement.
No.

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>>51401346
But Emi doesn't have freckles.

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>>51402089
Bollocks, I thought that just applied to cyberware/bioware. Back to the drawing board then.

>>51402221
See if you can get Synaptic Acceleration or Boosted Reflexes + Drugs past your GM.

>If a character has an augmentation that increases their Initiative or grants any Initiative Dice, synaptic acceleration has no effect

>boosted reflexes [...] are incompatible with any other Initiative-modifying augmentation.

Question about how drugs and addiction work, chummers, because I can't make heads nor tails of this damn book.

Lets use cram as an example. It has an addiction rating of 4 and a threshold of 3.

I take a dose of cram and enjoy the bonus initiative. This starts the addiction timer, and sets the time limit at 7 weeks (11 - AR = 7). The addiction threshold is 3, and it's a psychological addiction (resisted with Logic + Willpower). Every week I go without using cram, the threshold for the addiction test falls by 1 - meaning after 3 weeks it has a threshold of 0 and it's impossible for me to fail.

But when do I start making addiction tests? If I make one as soon as I use the drug, the 'falloff' period is useless. If I don't make one until 7 weeks have passed, chances are pretty good I won't have to make one at all. My character has a Log + Wil pool of 8, which gives me about a 50% chance of passing the test on any given day, but I'd rather not risk it. Taking a week or two to cool down after a run would be much easier, if it's possible.

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>>51402295
Thanks for the advice mate!

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>>51401346
Did somebody say cripplefucking?

>>51401303
I mean mechanically, compared to its competitors.

>>51402313
At the end of week 7 you make the test. But remember that if at any point before the threshold, not only does the threshold go back up to 3, and it doesn't go down for that week.

So while Cram can be kept from being a problem if you can space out runs properly, something like Jazz or Kamikaze is harder or impossible to space out.

Will we ever get an open world free-roam Shadowrun game?

No.

>>51402473
Best doujin.

>>51402738
Sometimes the best things come from the worst people.

>>51402683
I figured. If I let the threshold go down to 0, does that reset the 7 week timer?

Also, changing the subject - since Rigger 5.0 stated that drones can only hold one magazine worth of whatever weapon they're armed with (unless you take the ammo bin modification, which I have no room for), can you manually reload a drone that's within arm's reach?

>>51402718
Honestly, I just want the guys behind Payday to make a Shadowrun heist game.

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>>51402842

You're watchdogs on this one, Bring a heavy jacket and even heavier guns. Don't let the novacoke go anywhere.

>>51402842
Yeah, if you can go three weeks without using, you're off the hook. But if at any point in those three weeks you use, back on the whole way.

So avoiding the tests can be a bit difficult if you use one drug and run more than once a month. If you can switch drugs around, that's a bit better. If you can afford pharmaceutical grade, even better.

>>51402718
How much more/less than the Genesis on would you want it?

>>51402974
Never played the Genesis one.

>>51402473
...
sauce?

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>>51403052

>>51402473
what doujin is this?

>>51402888
what doujin is this?

>>51403228
stop copying me.

>>51403052
>>51403167
I just learned Tineye is pretty great at finding some cropped images.

>>51403167
[ShindoL] Fuwafuwa Imouto-nee wa Kuso Miso Katana

>>51403237
stop copying me.

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>>51403167
>>51403228
>>51403237
>>51403306

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>>51403306
you started it, so stop copying me.

>>51403237
>>51403306
Stops copies me

>>51403319
What does that mean?

>>51403377
You're a nut! You're crazy in the coconut!

So /srg/ question.

The penalty for healing someone with essence loss, does it apply as well to nonmagical healing ?

Would it be logical to say that someone with the cybertechnology skill wouldn't be at a penalty when treating someone's wounds.

>>51403052

shindol - tough and fragile

> the current big thing is troll tranny porn.
> Plan 9

Have they updated this since Attitude?

Are there 5e rules for nunchucks anywhere?

>>51403357
please stop copying me.

>>51403357
No, yous stops copies mes.

>>51403480
>>51402807
Yeah, seriously. Though it speaks volumes to me that Shindol can write something like this. If I didn't know any better I'd say that Shindol's other stuff is written in such a way that it forces us to really be introspective on humanity, and consider our own capacity for empathy and compassion.

Then I cut myself on Occam's razor and realize that it's far more likely that he's a troll and/or a real sick puppy.

>you can't play a technomancer in any of the Shadowrun games

What the fuck is up with this shit?

>>51403690
IIRC all the shadowrunh games to-date are set before Crash 2.0.

>>51403711
>you can't play Infected in any of the Shadowrun games

What the fuck is up with this shit?

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>>51403732
>you can't play Infected in any of the Shadowrun games
What a shame.

>>51401245
Okay guys I need your help.

So one of the players I've been playing with for a couple years now has been having an increasingly hard time being consistent with being able to come to games. This is because he needs to work more hours, has family things and has a whole other friend group.

So for this next Shadowrun game I'm DMing I want to tell him that he has a lot going on and shouldn't be a part of it.

How can I do this in a way he wont get defensive or feel like its personal.

>>51403826
Correction: you can't make the MC an Infected.

>>51403665
No, YOUS stops copies me!

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>>51403936
i swear to god i'll get the mods if you guys all keep copying me.

>>51403936
>>51403665

You must be 18 or older to access this board.

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>>51403690
>>51403711
>>51403732
>>51403826
You wanna know what the real fucking shame is?

Gunslinger adepts are unsupported in all the SRR games.

Changing the subject, rate my pink mohawk drone rigger.

>>51403396
Are you talking about the -Essence Lost that healing spells with the Essence tag take? Becuase that's a no.

For the -1 per 2 full points of loss, I'd allow it to be bypassed if you didn't mind mucking with the implants. It's never going to be worse than what an Awakened/Emerged is going to get on normal treatment.

Only the implants can probably be repaired more easily than those special ratings.

>>51403687
I don't think he's particularly wicked individual. Sure, it takes being a bit out there to put some of these things on a paper at all. But I think he's not... living his personal fantasies through it or anything and that his main motivation (besides feeding the fame that makes money) is the storytelling. Everything he does is never "just porn" there's always some undertones, there's always a story. He can do a twist right, turn whole story upside down in one page. And he has his reference and homages to a T. From vidya through history to international culture. Hell, the last time there's was a goddamn Frodo Baggins! It might sound like a stretch but I would compare him to Douman Sayman in those a way (ignoring the fact that one works mostly with simplistic sketchy style and the other with far more details). Both can do heartwarming and soulcrushing with equal ease. I think he would make excellent GM.

>>51404230
Well, we know that his Dragon Quest stuff is basically part putting fantasies on the page.

Or at least wonderings on there.

>>51404052
I want to say that you can do some fun stuff with adept powers and pistols, but I found out that Counter got a cap, and the cover powers take a bit of investment to get.

>>51404230
>I think he would make excellent GM.

Shindol Campaign... Jesus it would be like a David Lynch film.

>>51404230
>can do heartwarming and soulcrushing with equal ease
>soulcrushing
>would make an excellent GM

I've never had a GM make me sad before. Am I missing out?

>>51404283
Yes. It feels like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRsGyueVLvQ

>>51404268
Well, looking at the wiki, quick strike, lightning strike, and counterstrike all look like they might be neat if they work with pistols, but I doubt they do since Harebrained seems to thing Adept == warrior-monk.

>>51404317
>15 min long

>>51403826
I mean to be fair I've killed the only character at my table that tried to play a flesh-eating waste of a sheet. It wasn't even hard. Shouting "oh god, an infected!" with a few gangers around during the session one meet had a few people filling him with rounds pretty quick.

The moral of this story; don't play a character that is an innate danger to the rest of the team if you want them to stick around for any amount of time.

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>>51401245
>that image
>ShadowRUN

>>51404283
I've had some that made me very disappointed, I guess that's close enough.

>>51404361
>not 15 min long
you fail at foreplay

>>51404387
I now want an image set of all the KS girls as 'wared up, jaded runners.

>>51404405
>Is hand lotion any good for anal?
Wrong tab, friend?
From what I've heard, the answer is no

>>51404405
No, the oils will rot and infect your anus. certain types of Processed coconut oil work though. In general you want water based lubricants, so only stuff made for sex.

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>>51404387
>>51404405
She tastes like bacon...

>>51404413
>Hanako as (former) Halloweener
fund it

>>51404405
Doesn't lubricate long enough. Just buy lube.

>>51404425
>>51404437
I'm sorry, I had /d/ in the next tab over.

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>>51404439

>>51404457
Null sheen cummer. Fa/tg/uys are perverts.

>>51404475
>>51404457
This, pretty much. We'll de-rail an entire thread just to help a guy find a dominant QT GF on Fetlife. Just be glad you posted in /srg/, not /pfg/, otherwise you would have been taking advice from Weebs that only got laid that one time because of the emotional insecurities of that one girl in the college anime club who was later diagnosed with Generalized Anxiety.

Are there still drakes in 5e?

I'm trying to figure out what an undercover bodyguard for a troll gangster who's basically a modified Kaz Yakamura in a bastardized Ghost Cartels might look like. Two ganger PCs from different sets have put aside their past differences to kill Cassie Yang, the Fire Girl at the center of the tempo trade in Minneapolis, but they don't know how deep Horizon and Amazonian influence goes in this shit. They also don't know that the team's face is also being played by an Amazonian intelligence agent inside Ares. It's complicated. Anyways, I figured with the dragons and shit in Amazonia they might have a servitor of theirs do it.

>>51404385
You sound like a right cunt, maybe your just bad at telling stories.

>>51404413
>>51404443

Rin screams shaman to me, for that matter.

>>51404385
This is why you're running with bodyglove and custom ballistic mask and never let the team really see you without them. Smoothskins can't be trusted.

>>51404544
The GM and I have been buds for a bit, and he was pretty clear that he wanted grounded characters for the game. He let the players come with whatever they wanted but warned that anyone too conspicuous would probably have a hard time of it. It was supposed to be a corp espionage campaign.

I'm not sorry for purposely getting someone killed for not listening and ruining the mood that was trying to be set. It would be different if he had thought out how he would play a pariah, but the player just walked up in broad daylight and said 'hi' to the group.

>>51404555
>Rin able to giver her wild trips physical shape that can interact with the world
that's downright terrifying

Suzu - decker
Lily - face
Emi - street-sam / gunbunny

>>51404555
>Emi as a street sam with cyberlegs
>Hanako as a halloweener with flammenwerfer
>Rin as artsy shaman

Lily (aka best girl) would have to be the face, right? Which leaves deaf girl as the decker and Wahaha drills as a rigger?

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>>51404443
I swear to god there was a corp unit that had a flame gimmick, but for the life of me, I cannot fucking remember.

Iwanako as the Mr. Johnson the team never see again after the first botched run.

Kenji as the gibbering BTL addict who has all the stupid-ass government/megacorp conspiracies (that are all true).

>>51404660
>Emi as a street sam with cyberlegs
Can you install spurs in cyberlegs?

If so: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJQggH7S7wc

>>51404660
Wahaha is Suzu's lesbian Dependent.
Rigger is Miki, with junk-grade cybearm and Furiosa facepaint.

>>51404525
Drakes aren't not a thing, but I don't really remember them being highlighted that much. Worst comes to worst, just eyeball some 4e stats and make adjustments where necessary?

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>>51404676
god fucking dammit i had the librarian gal/kenji's ex crying CG, but I can't find it in my files. pic somewhat related

anyway she's the hyper submissive corp secretary you need to (easily) convince to get into the branch/HQ

>>51404660
Alternatively, Iwanako is the face.

Because she's good at talking and disappearing.

:V

>>51404754
I want this.
I'd use the homeroom teacher as the fixer, with maybe the nurse or best dad as mr. Johnson.

>>51404660

Deafness could easily be a dumpshock or Crash injury.

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Aehm...

>>51404868
Actual factual Dragon.
What, you expected any less?
I'd deal with her anytime, even I know I'd be on the losing end.

>>51403837
Meet in a neutral place. Sit them down, maybe over coffee and just explain to him

"Look dude, I'm going to be running the next game, and honestly I don't think you should join in, you just have to much on your plate what with family, and the other people you guys get together with. I can't help but notice that it's harder and harder for you to commit to game time, heck all of us have noticed, and personally I don't think you should let something like a game pull you away from what is important to you.

It doesn't mean I or the others don't want to hang out with you any more, in fact, we should see if we can't come up with something where it's less of an issue if one person shows up late or not at all, like board games, or a LAN. I know it sucks but I don't want to put added pressure on you to make you feel like you HAVE to show up, and I don't want myself and the others to lose time that we've committed because we have to sit around waiting for one person or another to finally arrive. This solution just works for everyone. Maybe if your schedule clears up in the future, and you for sure know you can make it to the games, there's always a chair open for you."

Something like that. Sprinkle relevant personal relationship stuff in where applicable.

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>>51404676
Ares' Firewatch?

>>51404283
You're not. It was horrible, and not in the "sad happy" kind of way, it was kind of traumatic, and I had to get up like two hours later to go play in a warhammer tournament.

My opinion may be skewed...

>>51404283
There are simple and effective ways to do this. If a GM gives you a shopkeep or a fixer that you see regularly,then one day that person gets killed in a fight you could have prevented through mission choices, you'll feel the absence. All I can say is that it isn't something that should be forced, but very memorable when done well.

>>51404413
Someone needs to make a reference sheet and get posting on the draw thread.

>>51405111
One of my first times playing Shadowrun, I was jokingly complaining about my Dependent wife. A couple sessions later the GM killed her off.

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>>51405119
Not sure if this has a set or not, but artists who strike once oft do so again.

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>>51403247
>ShindoL

>>51405360
It gets worse:
>>51404230
>>51404282

Anybody have text logs or recordings of shadowrun games? I'm jonesin' hard, omae

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Oh hey, Run Faster got updated.

>>51405558
Wait what does this mean? A second printing or something?

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>>51404685
>bladerunner emi

words cannot express the levels of puns going on here

>>51405590
no its faster

>>51405590
Going through it now, but it seems to have all of Goodman's errata. Not sure what the deal is with the second printing, I know that got sent off to the printers a while back.

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>>51405384
Some people just want to be violated

>>51405000
Thanks anon. Its hard to put words into things when you are caught up in it. I'll give it a go. Wish me luck.

>>51405558
At least the art is better.

Also wtf is that? A SURGE troll? Drake?

>>51405815
Infected troll.

>>51405842
Lovely, as if people on here didn't whine about infected enough already. Now theres more fuel for that fire.

>>51405006
I think that was it.

>>51404555
I actually see her as Otaku/Technomancer.

>>51405787
Hope it all works out chummer.

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Rate, Hate, Appreciate, and help me improve it so poor riggerdad can support his adorable troll daughter.

Also help me come up with a good construction themed street name I'm seriously drawing a blank

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>>51401245
Alright, who the heck else would be Iwanako?

Someone else and I actually wrote up a long-ass time ago a story where Iwanako wound up at the academy with injuries from all the girls - car accident and missing parts of her legs (Emi), facial scarring and other injuries (Hanako), got glass in her eyes (Lily), ears blown out and vocal cords shredded (Shizune), hands mangled (Rin), and had to had her heart replaced (Hisao). Since her parents were really rich, she managed to get hi-tech (for 2012) prostheses for the missing limbs and cybernetic implants in her eyes, as well as hi-tech hearing aids.

...Cyberzombie?

>>51404822

Nurse is very definitely either a gray-market cyberware/bioware clinic, or a DocWagon director.

>>51406086
I'm in love with the concept of dads/moms being runners. This hits that sweet spot just right.

Maybe Foreman for a street name? Hot Mix? Cinder Block? I-Beam?

...How useless is it to spend one of your Magic related skills on Assensing if you can't Astrally Perceive at chargen, but plan on getting it soonish? Or should I just swap for Counterspelling?

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>>51406086

I like "Pile-driver" as a street name.

>>51406383
Isn't it required that you be able to astrally percieve before you can put points into it?

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>>51406383
Step one is not being a Mystic Adept. Honestly, it depends on the character concept. You'll get more mileage out of Assensing than you would in Counterspelling, but you need decent ranks at Counterspelling to be able to do it reliably.

>>51406502
I believe I've started to align the character concept to being more of a recon/infiltration surveillance type of character. But after saying that, maybe I should move around my power points to see if I can't get it...

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Why didn't Grievous suffer cyberpsychosis?
how would you stat him?

>>51405074
>it was kind of traumatic
I had something like that happen during a smut green, everything was going fine, until the arson happened, it was so out of no where I was legitimately pissed. I guess the writefag just got tired.

>>51406587
My GM slowly mentally ground me down by the end of the session I had to step away to get some air, only really realizing after the fact, that I could have just said "This isn't fun anymore" and got up and left. At that point I was more mad at myself.

>>51406633
How incredibly masochistic.

>>51406640
The weirdest part is, the GM is the nicest guy I've honestly ever met, but after the incident, speaking to mutual friends, they told me that "it just gets to a point where his eyes glaze over and at that point you just have to peace out because he'll just start killing PCs". In their youth they often pulled all nighters playing, and it was just due to lack of sleep on his part.

I still kinda hate him for what it though. I've never gotten the chance to play with him since.

>>51405842
Nothing about it specifically says infected.

>>51406686
It's weird what you find out about people when you push them just right.
My experience was from a total stranger and just came out of left field, but I made the mistake of getting invested.

submitted a character to runnerhub, pretty excited to play for the first time. It's taken nearly 2 days to be reviewed so far though. anyone have good experiences with runnerhub/shadownet?

>>51406086
I would run with this guy, hell i'd take a couple bullets for him, go out of my way to make sure he came home safe and all that shit. 10/10 anon.

>>51406086
it's gotta be Rebar

>>51406808
Are you so desperate to get a game in that you'd subject yourself to their no-fun-allowed bullshit?

>>51406845
Nobody in my town plays, I can't convince my friends to read the books, and I hadn't heard about any no-fun-allowed shit so yeah, I basically am
post bad experiences? unless you just mean the character creation, which is pretty AIDS having to wait days to get it approved

>>51406808
>>51406845
I'm no expert on either, but if you have to submit a character for consideration, it's probably not a great place to play. Have you considered Gamefinder or roll20 if you're willing to play in an online format?

>>51406856
Just do what my friends and I do for every game: the most interested person (you in this case) learns the game well enough to be GM, after a few months when the rest know the rules well enough get one of them to take a turn.

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Why is Move By Wire so shit in 5e?

>>51406863
>I'm no expert on either, but if you have to submit a character for consideration, it's probably not a great place to play


Most likely only for the transexual furry otherkin deviants and their special snowflakes.

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>>51406985
Because you are an idiot?
Only problem is the essence cost.
It gives you a very high INI for relatively small amounts of Nuyen and free Skillwires (that basically cost as much as the whole system) on top of it.
Most optimal choice is alphaware MBW II

>>51406986
Right? Like, that kind of thing pops into my head when I read a statement like that.
>It's gotta be some kind of cesspool...

>>51406863
The reviewing process is mostly to validate that your character lines up mechanically, doesn't break any of their house rules or chargen rules, etc. It's pretty hard to get actively kicked out for having a terrible character.

>>51407001
It's shit, have fun being outsped by Wired Reflexes and Reaction Enhancers or Jazz, weebposter.

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Ya know, in this modern age where a hacker can brick a gun, it really makes an old slavshit rifle from the eurowar actually viable to carry around.

>>51407045
That sounds reasonable I guess. Good to know there aren't hyper gatekeeper mods that make sure everyone is playing the "right" way or something.

>>51406863
If a GM doesn't read your sheet before the game starts and considers how to do things, it might not be such a great game either.

>>51407125
Millage may vary, but I'll concede your point.

>>51404349
Adepts canonically came in around late 2e and 3e, and they were significantly more narrowly defined for a very long time.

>>51401245
>A limb? A life? A loved one?
All of the above

>>51407064
>or jazz
there's your issue
MBW is on average, identical to wired reflexes when alone. It's advantage is it stacks better with drugs.

>>51407065
>slavshit
>not the right arm of the free world

Step it up chummer.

>>51406560
It's not something that's guaranteed. Not everyone who hits >1 Essence goes psycho

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>>51407278

>no stats for the FAL in EuroWarAntiques

They have stats for the G3 at least, so its pretty much the same thing

>>51407064
Have fun paying a fuckton more Nuyen and always run with wireless on, only to rely on Dice Rolls to maybe have a higher INI than I.

Also:
>jazz

Geez, I'll just pop a dose of Accelerator and derp around with 20 + 5D6 INI, you fuckwit.

>>51407333
Yeah, I would treat it the same. I don't known the exact technical differences between them, but same Caliber, same mag size and similar RoF.

Also, make it short for maximum "I'm Coldwarcore, but also want to be operator".

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>>51407419
Forgot picture.

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>>51407419

You go full on rhodesia camo, and no one will know what the fuck your even talking about
>omae it was totally a country a hundred years ago!

>>51407419
>exact technical difference

FAL is a bit better to shoot in salvo modes (nice comparison Video on youtube), but i wouldn't want to put that in rules.
If you really want to, make the FAL come with a free Shockpad.

>>51407428
I like how I saved a thumbnail.

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>>51407367
>20 + 5D6 INI

holy mother of god what would someone even do with five initiative passes?

>>51407448
Shoot a lot of things. Duh!

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>>51407448

Kill everyone, then light a cigarette and do some novacoke

>>51407492
all within 3 seconds?

>>51407494

When your in the speed force, 3 seconds is more then enough

>>51407492
>Shooting 5 different people at complex full auto
Can Ares Alpha survive this? Assuming extended clip

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>>51407615

Its an Ares product, ofcourse it will!

>>51407448
Pfft. Chummer, that's not fast
One guy here made a character go 34 + 5d6 INI
That's fast

>>51407652
lets up the ante. What about 5 suppressive fire.
In 3 seconds.
That's 2000 RPM on assault rifle.

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>>51407686

Have you tried this fine product from one of our reliable subsidiaries?

>>51407723
with MBW......and drugs.....some other additions....the possibilities for dakka ....

>>51407492
>>51407494
>>51407520
One of my fondest Shadowrun memories was the first game I got to play in. It was in 4e, and I had spent all my money and essence on Wired Reflexes 3, and I had gotten into a barfight.

So my character is standing in front of a table of guys, and one gets mad and wipes a bottle at him as they all stand up, and slip in unison on an ice sheet our mage laid down.

And it was just how the GM described it. "You've caught the bottle, and the three guys around the table are all in varies states of mid air flight. They are moving exceptionally slow, as you process everything that is going on around in super slow motion. You still have an action, they are all vulnerable in mid air, what do you do?"

"I set the bottle down on the table."

"As the bottle connects with the surface of the table, the three hit the ground together in a loud thud, they all have confused looks on their faces about where this ice has come from."

And the only thing I could think of at that moment was "Wow, that's fast..."

>>51407803

I'm actually playing an AI which rigs in an anthrodrone in SR 4. It was some work to explain the DM drones didn't use any reaction or agility in combat because they actually processed the world in superspeed all the time, and only mathematical operations and ballistic previsions were necessary to a rigger in combat, since everything was so slow-paced for him on the battlefield, and reflexes were useless, but that the body speed limitations made it so everything can't be dodged with ease, and that even when you see the bullets, you can't dodge them all.
But when he understood that, It was like being the Flash on Novacoke.

>>51407448

Shouldn't that be actually a bit more than that? I mean, if you add REA and INT you can easily get to about 30 + 5d6 or higher.

>>51408237
See
>>51407685

I have a question for people who regularly deal with summoners and spirits;

Are spirits meant to be listed with static Force levels per the individual, or are they variable based on your character's input in the process of summoning them?

I want to lay out a few spirits my mage is familiar with, but with listing them individually, it seems strange to give them variable Force ratings.

Basically, do individual spirits have static or variable Force ratings?

>>51408400
their force is the force you designate when you summon it, up to 2x your magic rating

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>>51408438
Yeah, but I'm trying to work out whether that specific spirit is meant to always have that Force whenever it's summoned. I suppose it's down to preference, really, but I'm curious about how other people do it with their spirits, if they prefer to list a select few who are more defined, or if they just pull at random and define them on the fly.

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>>51408237
>>51408258

Nah.
Keeping it legal for Chargen (Restricted Gear for MBW3):
Lets assume 8 INT (6 base, +1 metagenetic derpity +1 cerebrellum booster), REA 8 (5 base + 3 from MBW) + flat INI bonus of 9 from R3 MBW
=> 27 Base INI +2 D6
pop a Dose of Accelerator
=> 27 + 5 D6 so on average around 44 INI giving you a pretty good chance for 5 passes, 4 guaranteed passes (min INI is 32) and the possibility to get 6 passes (max INI is 57).
Going higher is possible but comes with disgustingly high opportunity costs very fast (hehe).
Still pretty neat and absolutely Chargen legal.

The most economic sound option would be Restricted Gear for Rating II Alphaware MBW 3 and Biocompatibility (Cyberware).
You are still very fast but have enough essence left for some neat toys and pay significantly less than 200k Nuyen.

>>51408478
Chummer, I don't understand what you mean
When you summon a spirit (say a fire spirit) to choose the force (e.g. 3) and then roll MAG + Summoning vs Force (in this case 3). net hits are services. Until you use up the services or sunrise/-set your spirit has force 3. If afterwards you want another fire spirit you can choose force again.
Just like with spells you only note stuff by how it depends on force
E.g. you write
Body F-2 Strength F-1 Agility F+4 Reaction F+1
Logic F Willpower F Intuition F Charisma F
When you then summon the spirit you just calculate using that force

when are these runnerhub people gonna review my character holy SHIT i wanna play shadowrun

What are the average nuyen and karma rewards per run anyways? Anyone did the math on that?

>>51408934
No. There are so many different variables involved that trying to do so is pointless.

Is there any reason to get second skin instead of a catsuit? Armour values aside.

>>51408982
Second skin allows you to skip the undressing part

>>51409098
It's also still fully fledged RPC.

>>51409266
RPC?

>>51408400
>>51408478
>>51408653

I think you mean if it's the same spirit fluffwise. Like, on monday you summon Bob, the Fire-Spirit at Force 3. If you then, on thursday, summon a fire spirit again at Force 8 if it's still Bob - or Clarence the much stronger Fire Spirit.

Really, it comes down to Fluff i think and how you like it. You could argue Bob has a better grip on the material world on thursday and therefore has a bigger force thanks to your more reckless summoning. Or it's just another spirit.
And if you're hermetic you don't even care who that fucking spirit thinks it is.

Then again, most GMs i've seen dont waste so much ernegry on fluffing out a spirit anyway, although according to the book they're the ones playing the spirit.

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Newb GM needs help.

How do you design your bad guys? Do you generate them as runners, 'by the book'? Or maybe just throwing together some stats on the fly?
First option is slow and tiresome. And hey, do my corporate-wagemage-NPC really needs lifestyle, several set of clothes, car, weapons he left at home, etc.? It's fine fluff-wise, but if it isn't justified by plot, it's redundant, right?
Second option is sloppy, unfair and looks like leveled list in The Elder Scrolls game. Also, it is difficult to add some flavor to your NPCs without deep, planned chrome (or magic, whatever else) selection.

So, is there any quick flowchart or generator or something?

Another thing - my players are experienced, and just keep turning all combat events to some sick jokes. Like razorgirl killing NPC gunner with a single attack by EDGYng-out her initiative and charging him. So, how do I balance, and how do I tactics?

Using Chummer version 5.190.0 and ran into a snag. The initiative and movement values for my characters aren't adding up correctly anymore. I updated it but the problem persists. Making a new character does it just fine though.

Am I fucked?

>>51406353
>>51406460
>>51406821
>>51406825

I like Foreman and Rebar.

Any criticisms of the mechanical parts of the build? The Kodiak is non-negotiable, and I like the Percheron as the biggest, meanest pickup truck in R5, but I'm open to suggestions

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>>51410621
1/2

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>>51410886
2/2

>>51410870
The only "problem" is that if your troll is ever forced in a situation where he cannot call on his big vehicle/drones, he's fucked. That's not a problem unique to him, though, Riggers are by definition fucked without their toys, but yours are pretty big.

>>51410837
Okay trying reapply improvements sorted the initiatives (they weren't adding the die from wired reflexes) but my movement values are still 0/0.

>>51410941
How would you propose that I address that? I can replace a lynx with some smaller drones (though I miss out on some of the heavy machinery appeal), or I can get a couple more points in pistols.

Also he's an ork, omae.

>>51410978
Try adding, then removing a point of AGI. Should trigger a recalculation.

>>51411170
Didn't work.
It's fine though. Movement calculations are simple anyway, everything else seems to be working.

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I have a question.

What is the Device Rating of Rating 25 Foam Explosives?

The Device Ratings page seems to go from Device Rating 1-6, and Character Gen caps you at DR 6. But the only things that have higher than DR 6 are like, well, as far as I can find, literally nothing. Even the highest of high-end RCCs and Cyberdecks only have a Device Rating of 6.

As far as I can tell, there's a difference between Rating and Device Rating, but there seems to be an oddly large number of people online trying to say that they're the same, and trying to say that you can't, for example, get a Rating 10 Bow at character generation, despite the fact that you'd be perfectly capable of walking into the nearest Sports Store and just... purchasing it over the counter without any hassle at all.

Can someone lend a hand here, please? I'm continuing to try and look, but I haven't yet actually found anything that directly says how it works in either direction.

>>51411204
Device Rating and Rating are not the same thing. Rating typically denotes levels of quality. Device Rating represents how complex or advanced the electronics are within the device.

Foam Explosives could be either 2-3 DR I think.

>>51411269
That's what I'm assuming, but just for the sake of it, do you have a particular page that explicitly says that? Pretty much... well, anything with a Rating higher than 6 seems to basically imply it as hard as possible, but this is one of those cases where seeing if I can get a proper RAW here would be great.

>>51411300
It doesn't explicitly say it because its assumed that because they are called different things, they are actually different things. Off the top of my head, Cyberlimb Customization can go above Rating 6 if you're not human.

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>>51401245
>loss.BTL

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>>51403529
Probably don't call it tranny porn anymore. Other than that, I don't recall specifically them calling out certain genres of porn recently, other than Wuxing quints stuff.

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>>51404525
Yes, Howling Shadows has the rules for them (spoiler: they're bullshit, overpowered for NPCs and impossibly expensive for PCs) and a bit of info about them post-Dragon War.

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>>51404685
Yes.

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>>51405558
What is that thing? One of the Infected troll variants?

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>>51406560
>didn't suffer cyberpsychosis

>literally a murder machine that hunts the most dangerous people in the galaxy for trophies and gives villain speeches

Try again.

>>51403687
>>51404230
>>51404268
Shindo-L is a white chick living in Japan, y'all, how do you not know this already?

How do you successfully boil SR's mechanics down into something that doesn't give people headaches? How the heck does it manage to confound people so much?

It seems really easy to get without having to toss in some headache-inducing brand new system with Anarchy, which as far as I can tell (and what others have said) doesn't really facilitate Shadowrun's style in the first place.

It's a simple dice roll of skills+attribute (or attribute+attribute in certain cases) to get a certain number of successes (hits), which in 5e has constraints in the form of limits (aside from attribute tests which don't use those). There are certain ways to bend this, like using edge to game the system a little.

Is there anything I'm really missing there? Is it too "narrativist" for SR's system to arbitrarily declare penalties and bonuses to die rolls?

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>>51411170
Keep the Lynx. Maybe take out some points from your Aircraft stuff for pistols; it's a lot of skillpoints spent on skills you seem to only be using for the MiniZep.

I wouldn't bother getting special ammo for the Streetline; it's not going to be something you rely on to do any heavy lifting, it's a quick "keep squeezing the trigger till it runs dry, then toss it in the nearest public recycling bin". Spend the money on a taser so you have a legal self-defense option anywhere, important when you have no ability at all in melee.

Also in your bio it says troll, might be anon read that.

>>51405815
>not liking the cyber-centaur

What's the difference between an 11F and 11R restriction?

>>51411928
You can have a license for one but not the other.

>>51411928
R means it's a restricted item, requiring a license to use, purchase, etc. F means it is a forbidden item, illegal in nearly all circumstances.

>>51411928
R can be explained away if a cop stops you over and sees (thing); F cannot.

>>51411928
>11R
The cops will give you a beating if they catch you with one without a license.
>11F
The cops will give you a beating if they catch you with one, period.

>>51411834
If you have problems understanding the mechanics, then RPGs aren't for you. They aren't that complicated, there are numerous guides around that will help you to understand them, and there's no real excuse for not being able to learn it.

The only semi-legitimate excuse for being unable to learn a system is time, and if that's the problem, then you didn't have enough time to play the game anyway.

>>51411928
The 11R is hard to find at base price, but can be legally owned with a license in Seattle. It could be more legal in other places, and thus not require a license or less legal and so no license would let you legally own in.

And in that case, it's the same as 11F, a bit hard to find at base price, but you can't legally own it. If you're seen with it somewhere that law enforcement cares about, they're calling in back-up (if necessary) and trying to arrest or shoot you.

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>>51411928
R is restricted, meaning that it's only accessible to people with the license to have one. If you want to have one (and carry it around in public) you need to buy a fake license.

F is forbidden, almost no one can get it. No licenses available for civilains. Don't get caught with it.

>>51411980
>>51411982
>>51411989
>>51411991
>>51412000
>>51412001

Cheers chummers. That response time was pretty impressive.

>>51412074
Perhaps we didn't need six guys answering, but conversation is a bit slow right now.

>>51412074
Easy questions always get dogpiled. Makes us feel smart.

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Well, now that the easy questions are out of the way, what's the best way to speed up decking/alternate ruleset/house rules?

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>>51412165
Making it just straight skill checks is the easiest way to do it, but personally I don't like that. Makes it feel less cool sneaking into databases, getting marks and whatnot. I'm just a glutton for cool cyberspace shenanigans.

I use the aids in OP to speed it along, tracking everything well and making damn sure that whoever is playing the decker knows their business and handles their end of the paperwork. If it takes more than 5 seconds to decide if they are going to Hack on the Fly or Brute Force, they're doing it wrong.

>>51411996
That's not my problem. My problem is actually framing it so players don't get a headache and ask to play D&D instead.

>>51412198
No, anon, your problem is that you have bad players.

>>51405558
Honestly I kind of liked the oni getting punched by the centaur. It was campy as shit but pretty rad. Unlike Rigger 5.0 which needed a new cover

>>51409315
You've got me, chummer. I was up late working on a sheet, and I'm apparently fucking obtuse when I'm tired.

Thanks for the input. I'm like the argument that spirits just have differing grasps on meatspace, and that's what I was hoping to go for. The GM's left me to do it myself, so I guess I'll get creative.

>>51412165
There are two general choices I see.
On one hand, you can gut Marks and make decking a set of opposed skill tests. You'd effectively ignore Brute Force and Hack on the Fly, and just use LOG/INT + Hacking/Cybercombat/E. Warfare vs Device Rating + Firewall tests for whatever action you want.

At my table I make all matrix actions simple actions, because I like the marks system. It doesn't reduce the number of rolls, but it does make things take less meat time, so you can place a mark and open a door in a single action phase.

>What have you lost? A limb? A life? A loved one?
Oh don't even get me fucking started.
>be poor kid on farm in Aztlan
>join army on 16th birthday because I'm a dumb kid
>Aztlan-Amazonia war goes on for almost 10 years before it's over and I'm freed from service
>I was there for the cold war, the hot war and everything in between
>got my arm blown off by an IED
>ears blown out by numerous explosions
>took some shrapnel to the eyes
>Azzies gave me cyberware replacements for all that, plus a shit ton of extra augmentations to make me a better soldier
>most of it's alphaware and I still only have 0.02 Essence
>and on top of all that, I'd got flashbacks-grade PTSD from all the terrible shit I've seen, done and had happen to me
>can no longer stomach the idea of serving my own nation again when war is over, so I work as a cartel mercenary for a bit
>pick up Bliss addiction because it seems to help with how fucking horrible I feel
>check in on family back home
>they're not there
>the war ruined the local economy so everyone just got up and left
>no way to find family
>go to Seattle, because I want to just the fuck away from Aztlan and I know that Seattle's a criminal mecca, a perfect place for me to find better employment
And the other streetsam wonders why I'm a violent sociopath with no code of honor.

What is the real difference between Full Corp SIN and the regular one?

>>51412845
>And the other streetsam wonders why I'm a violent sociopath with no code of honor.
I was with you until that.
Seriously, most streetsams are violent sociopaths with no code of honor.
Why would you specialize, even adapt your body to the task of killing otherwise. I mean really.

>>51412845
>5.98 essence of ALPHAware
Jesus, how did you afford that?

>>51413235
Living in Renraku Arcology vs living in Seattle

>>51413263
>Seriously, most streetsams are violent sociopaths with no code of honor.
I'm aware, it's just the case that this other streetsam is one of the rare few that bothers with that code of honor stuff. Seriously, the 'samurai' part of it is supposed to imply a code of honor, but in most cases it's a brothel calling itself an escort service, if you get the metaphor.

>>51413378
Not all of it's alphaware, the most expensive stuff is all standard.

>>51413235
Corp-limited means that you were never more than a low level worker, and not even all low level workers get Corp-limited SINs. If you were in a management position, it wasn't an important one. Like being the manage of a Stuffer Shack.

If you have a Full Corp SIN, you were probably born into the Corp and rising to an actually important position could have been on the docket, or even happened.

And while both will get some anger pointed at you from SINless and anti-corp types, the Full Corp SINner is more likely to be deserving of some of it.

>>51411742
>white
To my knowledge American of Japanese ancestry that chose the path of Hentai instead of the path of Freedom and went back to Japan to seek their roots and purpose in life.

>woman
I've never seen anything that would point to this that wasn't completely baseless speculation. I would not mind being proven wrong though.
The cake is not conclusive evidence. Men can make cakes too. Neither is the politeness, that's Japanese thing.

>>51413263
I played a streetsam that was a Cyberpsychosis patient who just finished rehab.

Helped that he used to be a cop so he's got his code.

>>51413378
Alphaware up the wazoo is usually the best way to not get screwed up in the long run.

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>>51410621

I used to use - appropriately modified - tables from chummer, the rule of fours (every four dice is a level of competency), occasional character posted on /srg/ and hand-crafted important antagonist.

Now I usually use character sheets of dead PCs covered with thin layer of pant.

I thought of this last night, and was wondering if it would be an appropriate code of honor for a game where you're likely to go against other runners (like the Carib League)

Honor Among Thieves
Living in the shadows is already a hard life, and you're not going to make it worse. When dealing with shadowrunners or members of shadow communities (fixers, smugglers, and the like), you always act equitably and honestly. If a confrontation arises with other shadowrunners (or members of a shadow community), you always attempt to resolve the confrontation nonviolently, and failing that will only use less than lethal force. Failing any of these incurs a loss of karma as detailed in the Code of Honor quality.

>>51413687

> tables from chummer

Tables from pastebin.

>>51413730
Tribbles from Pyongyang

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>>51401245
AH!

My feels!

Son of a bitch. I can't find an image I saw recently, and I swear it was in the threads. I've looked through the archives and I can't find it. There was a male character, holding what appeared to be a modern spear, partially covered in tattoos, and with a blue glow around him. He was sitting down, slouched forward, and the spear was in his right hand. Technically left side of the image since he's facing the viewer, but still.

Anyone happen to have that image? A guy in my group's doing a magical spear user.

I don't feel like getting arrested, so what the fuck is Shindol's specialty? Don't tell me it's guro.

>>51414034
>arrested
Where do you live? If you're in burgerland you'll be okay.

>>51414034
Sadness, but also a boner.

If I'm running a shadowrun 5th edition game for the first time (all of my players are first time as well) which books would you recommend that I not use or are too complicated for first time players? Also, are there any books that are just plain bad?

>>51414122
Every player should be looking at the core rulebook, Run&Gun, Run Faster and any books that relevant to their archetype. I'd also recommend that everyone look at Rigger 5.0, but I guess not everyone is into sweet rides as much as I am.

>>51414034
Misery porn. Nothing overly violent or gory, but it really gets under your skin. Quality storytelling that can get far too real far too quickly. Bizarre sense of humor. And rare few happy ends made all the sweeter by how exceptional they are.
On 4chan became particularly infamous after sacrilege that is certain doujin featuring Yotsuba.

>>51414122
Keep in mind that you'll want to use the missions errata for Gunner's He(a)ven 3, and probably make the noizsquito use the actual glare and distraction tables.

>>51414034
Either heart-warming or fearing stuff, ahegao, and a few other things here and there.

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Not sure if I asked /SRG/ about it yet but I was wondering if it would be possible to make a techy character but instead of putting a ton of points into 6 different craft skills to just get a couple maintenance drones with mechanical skills autosofts and let them do the repairs/upgrades/maintenance for me.

>>51405558
Is there a errata for this?

I'm having difficulty crunching through the magic system. Let me see if I've got this right.

Step 1 and 2, pick a spell, pick a target. No problem there.

Step three, choose the Force of the spell (which acts as the limit for that spell). No problem there either.

"If the number of hits (not net hits) you get after applying the limit exceeds your Magic rating, the spell’s Drain is Physical instead of Stun damage."

Alright, so say I have 5 Magic, and 5 Spellcasting. I get that if I roll more than 5 hits, any drain I get is Physical damage. So what does applying the limit have to do with it?

Step 4, cast. Just a simple test with Force acting as the limit. No problem.

Step 5, determine effect. Effect will vary depending on spell type/spell. No problem.

Step 6, calculate drain. No problems here either, DV is listed next to each spell.

Am I missing something here? I feel like I am.

In addition, why would one ever use a combat spell? A gun does just as much damage, and has zero chance of making you bleed from your eyes.

>>51414434
There's a drone in Rigger 5.0 that's meant for just that. But ask yourself this: what's worth more, skill points or money spent on drones that you never use on the job?

>>51414434
Yeah thats completely possible. I built a Street Samurai ex-Ganger w/ 1 LOG who uses an Agent and an Evo Proletariat to handle his Matrix and his mechanical repairs.

>>51414506
Let's say you cast at force 4, but get 9 hits.

You take stun, because after applying the limit you had 4 hits on the casting roll.

Alternatively, let's say that you cast at force 10, but spent 5 reagents to set the limit to 5. Even if you rolled 10 hits, it's still going to be stun because the new limit is 5, and that's not over your magic.

On the other hand, Force 10 is pretty high, so you're probably eating a lot of stun. Hope it was worth it.

>>51414506
You are indeed missing something, chummer. Firearms start on page 424 in core. Even the best mages will still get tired from all that spell slinging. If you're smart, you keep a reliable backup. Remember- never exhaust yourself doing something that the pull of a trigger could do just as well, and especially not on a dangerous run where every point of drain could prove fatal.

>>51414525
>>51414526
I was supposed to play 4e and they have a drone, the Lockheed Vulcan, who is meant for handling aeronautic mechanic and supposedly can be reprogrammed with other mechanic autosofts without much issues.

I was thinking of maybe modding a flying drone with the same system the Vulcan has and use it to sabotage stuff while I'm not using it to manage my gear for me.

That way I was thinking I could focus my skill points on combat and piloting skills and maybe specializing into crafting software to cut costs for improving the drone's crafting abilities.

>>51413871
I got you senpai. Sadly it's on my pic so I'll probably pay it later. Probably 3-4 hours from now.

>>51415178
I actually had a setup in 5e: get a small or minidrone (Horizon CU^3 Pro is nice because of the high pilot rating, comparative to other drones), fit it with a drone arm or two (downgrade sensors), give at least one arm a built-in toolkit, and get a RCC with rating 6 autosofts (locksmith and hardware are good choices for field work, but you can swap them out for whatever.)

It's not very durable, but it's small, mobile, and has 10 dice in whatever skill you need.

>>51414964
It also helps you not look like a mage, which is useful for not being alphaed off the field.

>>51415303
I don't know much about 5e because the books are still coming out but in 4e they had an add-on for drone called "fuzzy logic" which would add 3 dices to a drone's action if you let it take a minute to analyze his task. Maybe they have something similar in 5e. Anyway that sounded very useful when it comes to bypassing dice caps.

>>51415502
I haven't seen anything like that in 5e yet, most drone checks are Pilot + Autosoft +- modifiers - which is why the toolkit is important because those +2 dice help a lot.

>use assault rifles to avoid looking like a mage
>everyone else in the party uses pistols
>threat priority shifts back to me
fug

>>51415573
Thanks for the info about the toolkit because it means my 4e version just got from +3 modifier to +5

>>51402214
No freckles there just blush

>>51415584
Just grab a machine Pistol
Or have the Tangos shift their threat priority to the nades you are shooting at them from the ubgl of the Alpha

>>51415584
What's your damage guy use?

>>51415178
>I don't know much about 5e because the books are still coming out
It's kind of late to have that attitude now that everybody but technomancers have their own proper splatbook.

>>51411576
In practice, nothing stopping you. In later books, they created expensive foot blades.

>>51415672
I mean, maybe you've never taken damage from a street sam dual wielding savalette guardians, with a dicepool of 18+ that high enough to justify the split for twelve rounds of "bend over" levels of gentle APDS.

Alternatively, maybe they're just using grenades. Explosives = free damage in closed rooms, it doesn't matter if you scatter.

>>51413871
Just google Trailer Park Fae. Its an urban fantasy books cover art

>>51415868
>doesn't matter if you scatter.
this should be a slogan

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>>51413871
This?

>>51415922
>>51415876
Yep, thanks.

>>51415908
yup. scatter on a grenade launcher is 18m max, and they have a short range of 5-50m. No risk in using one beyond glitches, so might as well pick it up if you've got a 3-4 agi character that enjoys salsa.

>>51415817
Don't they also have raptor-legs?

>>51415868
>with a dicepool of 18+
So he's rolling 9-ish dice and is somehow a threat?

>>51415922
Does Chummer factor in weapons slots when attempting to equip accessories/modifications, or no?

>>51416295
yup. can't get more than one top/barrel/ etc mod on an item.

>>51416487
I was referring more to what slots are limited based on weapon type. For instance, I was able to put a folding stock on a machine pistol, even though they can only take top and bottom mods. I was curious if it was just a single thing, or doe Chummer not factor any of that for all categories of weapons.

>>51416155
What's your point?

>Foot Blade
>Ess: 0.2
>DV: (STR + 2)P
>AP: --
>Avail: 20F
>Cost: 28,000¥

>>51416487
You can if the first is integral.

>>51416871
>20F
>28k
>worse damage code than spurs
I knew they hurt people worse but fuck man that is a steep cost for lethal leg knives.

>>51416871
What the fuck? That's worse than spurs which you can get put in on your feet. Why would you pay nearly 30 grand for that shit? Do they have something else going for them?

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>>51416571
Core rules + RG rules, per RAW. means that the only slot machine pistols don't get is the Under slot.

>>51416871
Why wouldn't I just buy spurs again?

>>51407333
Tropa de Elite
my negro
Speaking as an American Gun Nut I'm kinda surprised that the Shadowrun Ar-15 is complete shit compared to the Shadowrun AK

>>51417056
>>51416913
>>51417011
Quality work by CGL. If you really want weapons in your feet, go for raptor feet. It's still STR+2 damage, but at least you get 3 AP on it.

>>51417130
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7PqvzSwU9s&index=1&list=LLalES3hjjnBetiCvsBadEkA

>>51417130
At least the Ares Alpha is the king of assault rifles
Yamaha Raiden fags please leave.

>>51417320
>not wanting better accuracy and an integrated silencer in your assault rifle

>>51417011
>That's worse than spurs which you can get put in on your feet.
That's the point. Now that they exist, you cannot.

>Do they have something else going for them?
Nope. It's a direct equivalent to giving mermaids the ability to breathe air.

So I'm kinda new to shadowrun and a friend want his character to change his penis into a shotgun or a grenade launcher.
Is that possible?

>>51417501
Oh my sweet child
you'll find that in shadowrun anything is almost possible

Possible, yes. Good idea, no.

>>51417501
The good news is that it's possible. The bad news is that he would no longer be able to use his penis as his penis.

>>51417605
Well.... not THAT penis anyway. You can get more than one installed.

Welcome to shadowrun.

>>51417605
>The bad news is that he would no longer be able to use his [shotgun] penis as his penis.
You say that, but I bet one could give it a damn good try with the right ammo.

>>51417706
>replace penis with gun
>install new penis
That's a pretty inefficient use of nuyen and Essence.

>>51417861
Fuck efficiency, I've got to let everyone know about my new artificial troll cock.

Incidentally, yes, everything is used for porn in the sixth world. Magic, the matrix, new tech, drugs, everything. Take a moment to pause and consider what that means.

>>51417861

Not if all the follow conditions apply:

>you use seduction as a means of assassination
>your new penis is more sensile than the original and generally improves upon the original's function and form
>your new penis is in a more convenient/useful location than before (for example, opening up the possibility of autofellatio or solo buttfucking).

>>51418106
8 trillion new kinds of porn, and yet I'll still find vanilla-romantic stuff the best.

>>51418175
How about vanilla romantic porn but one partner is a shy troll and the other short, no matter what metatype. Boy or girl, doesn't matter. Instant gold boner because I got a deltaware gold plated shape changing cyberdick

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Anyone got any fun non-mage character concepts they'd like to share? I normally play mages but I'm looking to spice things up.

>>51418851
A streetsam specializing in streetline specials with explosive ammo and explosive clips. Shoot your tiny bombs, then throw the empty gun at the enemy and have it explode too!

>>51418927
>Brand Loyalty: Tediore

>>51418927
I can dig it.

Just be sure to install a double barreled dick. One for cumblasts one for shotgun blasts, but be safe with it to avoid any Hemmingway/Colbain moments

>>51418851
A mundane trying to be a mage with weird gadgets and show-biz experience

>>51418851
Hmm ... How many explosive things can we fit into one gun?

Explosive Clip. (say, fragmentation grenade: DV: 18P(f), AP: +5, Blast: –1/m)

4* explosive clip for a Yamaha Sakura Fubuki SX.

Advanced Safety: Explosive Self Destruct. (DV: 14P(f), AP: –5 wielder / +4 anyone else, Blast: –2/m)

Self Destuct Cyberdeck Module. (fragmentation grenade: DV: 18P(f), AP: +5, Blast: –1/m)

>>51419361
We could increase that to 6* explosive clip with the Shiawase Arms Monsoon.

>>51419361
>>51419385
Don't forget to be an Adept with Missile Mastery so you can also throw the Explosive Magazine Barrel like a javelin.

>>51419361
Ok, so here is the plan guys: we buy the most expensive cyberdeck possible at creation (345k, no?), pop a self destruct module in it, and throw it at the first mildly threatening thing that the gm sends our way.

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>>51419471
Pic. Related.

But seriously, you can put cyberdeck modules in any device, and every gear item is a device, but for the vintage stuff.

>>51419405
>Missile Mastery
>For ranged attacks with non-explosive throwing weapons ...

>>51419361
A better question is how much explosive material can we fit in a cyberlim?

>>51418851
An anarchist rigger with a kitted out deathmachine drone. Must include a drone arm (or other articulated limb, if a primitive arm would work) with a mounted monofilament chainsaw.

>>51419739
Full Modular Obvious Arm (16 capacity (-3 modular, +4 bulk) for 1 light pistol & 4 "cortex" area bombs)

4 explosive clips.

1 advanced safety explosive.

11 (most permissively) self destruct modules for each "device". Yes, Anton, even bomb is bomb.

>>51419821
Or you could go with 16 kink bombs and self destruct modules.

Does the HKXM30 have special rules for attachments/modifications? Or as normal?

>>51419939
You'll probably need to take barrel mods per barrel.

>>51419995
The weapon with the bag of parts is 4.5k - I was just going to assume that anything done was done to the entire sack, since so many cost a multiplier of the original weapon. Just checking on official rulings, since the 5e errata are cancer.

>>51420046
> I think these are stupid as hell.
> /dev/grrl

> Why do you hate everything?
> Red

> The shot profle is obvious after the fact, the ammo flies out too quick, and if you need to fre four bullets at a time you suck at shooting. And what the hell are you supposed to do, screw four separate silencers on the damn thing?
> /dev/grrl

1 modification == 1 modification, not 1 modified weapon

>>51419748
Question: If I do this - put a monofilament chainsaw on a steel lynx, then jupm into it via command rig - do I still use Gunnery to hit with the saw?

>>51420110
Is it still a mounted weapon?

>>51420110
No, you need some kind of weapon skill for that. And an arm on the drone.

>>51420165
Yes

>>51420190
One would be led to assume there's some articulation in the mount, but adding a drone arm isn't too tough.