Warhammer 40k General /40kg/

first for necrons

Psykers are the best

Deal with it

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3rd for the Empire.

age of emperor when ?

That was a quick thread, sorry for reposting but in regards to the new FAQ, how do people feel about the ruling on Alpha Legion, anyone else play them?

I've found so many more rules questions I'd like them to clear up as well, but for the moment would really like it if they gave us back a second detachment bonus.

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>>51326649
Why do Word Bearer Veterans look like Flesh Tearers?

>>51326780
It's really annoying that these Faqs intentionally made rulings that pointed out how stupidly the rules and benefits on some units overlap. Like, why would they rule it to make things useless?

>>51326798
They were that color 10K years before flesh tearers even existed, you moron

>>51326780
>2017
>not playing GSC

>>51326833
>Playing GSC when they can't cult ambush and assault

>>51326821
Fine, let me rephrase that.

Why do Flesh Tearers look like Word Bearer veterans.

Also, Flesh Tearers are 2nd founding, mate.

>>51326833
Had space marines and death korps lying around and wanted to try a CSM list, then happy days a traitor legion book comes out, now i have an alpha legion army painted up and am a little salty

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>>51326649
>chaos will win gathering storm

>>51326881
>>51326798

Why reply this garbage to me?

>>51326844
Servo skulls only prevent first turn assaults and there is still people reluctant to use allies.

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>>51326901
Because fuck you! that's why.

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>>51326649

>people say not to buy GW brushes, suggest W&C instead
>look up a set
>it costs even more than the GW set

>>51326901
Are you OP?

I so, that's why

>>51326906
No, the FAQ says that using Cult Ambush prevents you from charging.

>>51326933
GW brushes are mediocre tools at premium price, W&C are actual Permium brushes.

>>51326901
OP is gay confirmed.

>>51326939
When using infiltrate.

You're not allowed to charge on the first turn basically.

>>51326933
You get what you pay for from them. You don't really from GW.

>>51326933
Because if you're going to spend money do it in something worth your moneys

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I want to take whoever drew this out back and beat him with a stick.

How the fuck do you get a good half of the unit designs this fucking wrong?

Why the shit do these Balistarii have fucking arms?
Where are the gimps?
Why does that rust stalker have an assault rifle?

>>51326939
>>51326970
You can if you roll 6 as it was intended.

>>51327012
That's not what the rules say, cheater.

>>51326990
>what is artistic interpretation
>what is in world differences in design and equipment

Come on, Anon.

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>>51326990

GW decided to go with fast and cheap for most of their new art

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I was one of the best Shas'la in the Viorla Sept in my time. No one before me had mastered the power of our Crisis Barrlesuits as quickly as I had. Except Puretide himself of course. In those days we were sweeping across the Damocles Gulf. Devestating all who wouldn't join us. Young fire warriors would prove themselves in real combat with unknown opponents above a thousand worlds. Each brought back the story of his achievements.

I remember my first combat well, orbiting high above a barbaric world, its defenses just stirring. As was tradition, I would go ahead of the first wave to find enemies in the thickest fighting. I remember sitting there in my armor, linked directly with the battlesuit thrumming around me. My heart racing with fear at the coming battle.

The doors opened in front me and the air was sucked out of the drop bay, scattering crystals of frozen vapor across my path. I can't describe what it feels like to look directly down at a world, falling continuously as you circle it, with barely fifteen centimeters of iridium plate protecting you. When the magnetic locks disengaged on my XV-8, I plunged out of the drop bay towards the battle that waited below.

The exhilaration, the euphoria, I felt as I streaked into the atmosphere, dodging self-guided projectile and crude beam weapons, was unmatched. An 80 kilometer plunge through the atmosphere, dodging and weaving, the outside of my armor glowing like the sun with the heat of re-entry. And with barely thirty meters to spare, I twisted and skimmed the surface, firing at the giant beam generators that were in my path. The explosion from that sent shockwaves that levelled the entire complex around it. It was the moment of my life.

>>51326990
It's the fucking AdMech anyway, as if they're all going to follow the same uniform design without strapping random shit to it.

>>51327021
Jokes on you I don't play cults, I only vaguely read the codex once, sorry.

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>>51327024
>artistic interpretation
>turning a Ballistarii into a fucking Tau battlesuit
>giving melee only units fucking assault rifles

No, fuck you. There's artistic interpretation and then there's being FUCKING WRONG

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>>51327033
>the euphoria

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Eldar anyone? I am a new player and interested in an Eldar army. We bought with a friend of mine the Death Masque box for the cool Harlequin minis. Any ideas what I am going to need next?

>>51327058
>this post is sponsored by Ordo Artisticus of the Inquisition

>>51327095

Tau and Eldar players are not welcome here.

>>51326881
How many times did the Eldar fail?

>>51327095
Aspect warriors, vypers and war walkers

>>51327095

You've got a decent amount of Harlequins, you have to decide where to go from there.

A lot of people playing Harlequins take Dark Eldar for useful open-topped transports.

If you instead want to focus on Craftworld Eldar, really you can just look through the codex and point out what seems cool to you. Most things are good.

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>>51327058
Balistarii do have arms, Anon.

And if you think any soldier would not use any weapon they can in battle, you're wrong. Say he broke or lost his swords, he has to have something. So he picks up a shitty weapon until he can get something better.

It's an art piece, not fucking tabletop, it doesn't have to adhere to the rules of what they can take as wargear.

>>51327147
>A lot of people playing Harlequins take Dark Eldar for useful open-topped transports.
>useful
>open-topped transports
?

They take dark eldar for fire support, because they're really cool.
Craftworld eldar need no allies.

>>51326990
Shit complaint. The art is slave to the models enough as it is.

>>51327153
>It's an art piece, not fucking tabletop, it doesn't have to adhere to the rules of what they can take as wargear.

It has since the chapterhouse fiasco.

>>51327095
Harlequins are actually their own army, they haven't been part of the Eldar codex for a while, but you can bring them in as allies for an Eldar force.

If you wanna play Eldar, a good starting point would be grabbing one or two of the box sets sold for them (Start Collecting or Armoured Assault) since they're decent value for money. Otherwise, since you already have Eldrad Ulthran, you could buy two Troops choices (Windriders, Guardians, or Dire Avengers) and have an army ready to go.

>>51327104
t. Grav-Gladius player

>>51327182
>They take Dark Eldar for fire support

No they don't. If that was what Harlequins wanted they'd take CWE.

>CWE need no allies

No shit.

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Farsight Enclaves list (crisis suits are troops, except for the bodyguard). Feedback appreciated.

>>51327147
So just any addition would be fine? I was thinking fire dragons look pretty neat.

>>51327153
Those are on there as well. Note that there is an entirely different, extra set of arms. And look how fucking big they are on that back one. They couldn't even get that shit to look the same on two versions of the same thing in the same picture.

That is straight up fucking bad art. It would be one thing if it was good art and wrong for the subject, but it's shit art AND wrong.

>>51327207
Are you actually complaining that they aren't doing that anymore?

>>51326963
So what is the happy medium then? There has to be one out there!

>>51327243
Anon, stop complaining that they aren't exactly like the models.

There's varience in design across the Imperium.

>>51326990
Read some admech books, there's all sorts of shit

>>51327217
No fucking shit craftworld eldar do everything better, if you want to play a min-maxed army you don't include harlies or DE, you just include craftworld.

Tell me why you think they take dark eldar for transports when they A, have their own which are arguably better and B, cannot even board them during deployment?

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>>51327033
God, I fucking hate Tau. Smug pricks.

>>51327238
Harlie are close range and specialize in anti-elites/monster

You want something decently long range that can pop transports and take down hordes.

>>51327312
Better to play tau than to play the trump loving faggot imperium on mankind

>>51327230
Needs more Riptides.

>>51327238

Well, for starters, you'd need to get your units into a Detachment. For that, you need two troop choices to start with, which are either Guardians, Dire Avengers, or Windriders. You have Eldrad for your HQ, which you could run as a regular Farseer instead if you wanted to.

If you wanted deals on those troop choices, either Armored Assault or Start Collecting would be good things to pick up. Armored Assault comes with a unit of Dire Avengers and a transport, while Start Collecting includes a unit of Windriders, a tank, and another Farseer, this one on a bike.

A lot of problems stem from the fact that Harlequins aren't Codex: Craftworlds, so they don't really help you build a list. The formation from Death Masque is a pretty decent one to tack on to a larger force, though.

>>51327336
We should just all play tyranids

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>>51327273
I get it, but it's still crap.

I'm also still mad about FoC, I admit.

>All units in art must be actual models -GW
>tease new stuff for Admech
>release art teaser showing just enough to tell a walker with arms and no gimp
>teaser also has cyborg infantry clearly not Vanguard or Ranger with a rifle
> lol jk its just a really shitty drawn version of an Ironstrider and a Ruststalker with a weapon you aren't allowed to take, instead you get a HQ any Imperial army can take and two absolute dumpster tier formations

>>51327360
that invites flyrant faggotry desu, and I love flyrants

We should play Orks

>>51327058
>GW art is just minis with photoshop filters over them
>"Fucking bullshit, GW, do something original."
>GW art diverts from the models
>"Fucking bullshit, GW, that's not like the models."

If I had my way, all art would be just Blanche, England and their kind. If I want to see models lined up in cool action scenes, I'll look at dioramas, not the art.

>>51327368
>Fall of cadia
>Cadian content: =0%

>>51327371
nah orks aren't tough enough
we should all play Necrons

>>51327058
You should kill yourself if you seriously think this looks like a tau suit.

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>>51327336
>the trump loving faggot imperium
>implying an English game cares about the colonies leader
>implying the Emperor would be Trump
Bad memes fag

>>51327234

The salt is real.

>>51327404
Rules, sure. The entire first half of the book is Cadians.

>>51327385
If it diverted because it was cool it would be one thing, but that piece clearly diverts because of incompetence and the artist not knowing jack shit

Look at those fucking arms on the back one compared to the front one. Or the size of that motherfucker in general compared to the troops at its feet

How many riptides should I be playing with before everyone starts to call me a huge faggot and saying all sorts of mean things to me?

>>51327406
But necrons aren't fun to play against.

We should all play pure kroot.

>>51327348
I see. I will invest in a Dire Avengers and a Guardians unit to see how this plays out and I will have the Harlequins for later as an elite option

>>51327434
>=0

>>51327234
You roll twice, instead of once. That's all.

>>51327423
Mine for sure is, my poor hydras

>>51327434
I think anything past 1 deserves a punch in the face

>>51327428
And in how many pieces of old art you got titans stepping over mountains and shit like that?

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>that guy who brings his lifesize Daemonette fuckdoll to the game

>>51327406
Necrons v Necrons is one of the most boring, drawn-out matchups I've ever played.

3/10 would not recommend

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>>51327385
Adrian Smith or bust.

>>51327483
Why? FAQ says they don't stack

>>51327434
One at game up to 1850, the two at 2200, three at 2500 as much as you want after 3000 pts.

>>51327434
One riptide is really all you'll ever need, but if you go into larger games of 2k points and up, a second one shouldn't get you too many dirty looks (unless your opponent really hates Tau). Three riptides is almost universally despised, especially when taken in the riptide wing formation.

>>51327531
Yeah, so you don't roll once. They're two different rules.

You roll first for one, then again to see if you get the second.

>>51327527

Are those Gargants and Stompas in the back ground?

>>51327531
They don't stack in that you can't summon two cultists off of one. That doesn't mean you can't attempt a roll for each special rule.

>>51327531
They are two separate rolls.

>>51327515
did it really happened ?

>>51326649
how stupid is it to give pathfinders ion rifles

i like them and i want my units to be proper killy

>>51327581
>>51327579
>>51327565
So you have a re-roll at getting one unit, or have a chance to get 2?

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>>51327587
I hope it doesn't.

NTH FOR COMMORRAGH

>>51327587
I am sure somewhere in the world it has

>>51327610

Nth for Commorragh is about to get BTFO by Daemons

>>51327599
They're just support units and complementary markerlights.

>>51327605
To answer in GW fashion:

Yes but only in the case of the specific.

>>51327605
Chance to get two. Roll twice, if you pass one, you get 1, pass 2 you get 2.

>>51326833
Haha, your first turn charge bullshit got BTFO
T
F
O

>>51327605
Gw aren't the brightest rule writers.

>>51327599
It can work for a small focused squad. Better with Darkstider to lower enemy toughness and let them outflank. The blasts at S 8 can instant death marines, or t 5 with Darkstrider.

A small off squad of it can work, but it's not something you really want to load up your army with.

>>51327312
>he doesn't recognize Canderous Ordo's warstories

>>51327095
Have you purchased your butt-plug yet? You are going to need one of those.

>>51327095
Literally any Eldar unit you like would be a strong addition. Just pick off of fluff or looks.

>>51327634
>implying that it isn't the Emperor making his way to the webway again

thanks Magnus
>Magnus did nothing wrong hurr durr
MAGNUS DID EVERYTHING WRONG!

so what the fuck do I do now with my Deathwatch. the no dedicated transports for Kill Teams rule is stupid

>>51327527
Yeah, that's the third. I always forget ol' Smithy.

>be me
> go on a stream of a girl making Moemon Pixelart
> ask her out of curiousity and boreness if she knows 40k
>she does
> ask what is her favorite race
> it's tyrannid
wtf i thought it was just a meme

>>51327706
Your FLGS is really, REALLY different from mine....

>>51327784

It's always Tyranids or Dark Eldar

>>51327784
Anon, it's not a meme, it's always Nids or some kind of Eldar.

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>>51327749

Try forging a narrative instead of acting like you have to win every game you play like your life depends on it

Crazy I know

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>>51327784
Women have a "forced to be a brood mother" fetish.

>>51327812
That makes me sad to be a sunny fan

>>51327837
Don't lie, that's you in the picture.

>>51327794
No, you just dont know how to play eldar yet. Its expected if you show up with eldar that sucker is up there nice and snug. If you are not using it, you are dis respecting your opponent, who thinks its only right and fair you should be forced to use it, since you are using eldar anyway. Did you even read your BRB. Its right on page 47, 3rd paragraph:

"however in the case of choosing eldar as your army, its common courtesy to your opponent to show your eldar pride with the "traditional" eldar attire".

>>51327644
Do you play with or against this detachment? I ask because some friends of mine think it might be too strong if you have "infinite" cultists, and I'm not sure on that. Would like some outside opinions on the strength of getting double cultists sometimes. The bonus still seems fine to me if it's just a re-roll and you have two chances to get one unit, but if it actually does nothing like a lot of people think, that kinda makes it probably the worst legion doesn't it?

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>>51327858
>the "traditional" eldar attire
>traditional

As in pre-Fall? So....a thong and nipple tassles?

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>>51327898

DELET THIS

>>51327868
Against. It's just cultists. It's fine.

>>51327868
I saw a report where they used the "Cut off one head..." interpretation and it was insane. It makes the free wargear of the War Convocation look like a joke, sure they're cultists, but you're getting normally at least double your points spent on cultists back on more cultists.

You can end up drowning the board in trash, you might never win on kill points, but when 90% of the board has become cultists, that hardly matters.

>>51327898
There can never be enough alters of that dance sequence or of the one that follows

>>51327799

My wife collects Necrons, a small force that she fluffed out as all being female. She gave them all Egyptian and Greek female names. The models don't look any different; she just reasoned that ALL the Necrontyr were put into the Necrodermis, and that therefore a lot of the Warriors would be female.

It's a pity that motherhood put a halt to her collecting; I used to enjoy our little tabletop skirmishes between her 'Crons and my Orks.

On the plus side, when I ask my 3 year old daughter "What sound does an Ork make?" she yells "WAAAAAGH!" She's also taken to exclaiming "Look Daddy, an Ork bike!" whenever she hears a loud motorbike.

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>>51327812

but I like the idea of elite xeno space marines going into battle in vehicles

>>51327898
Macha stop abusing the spiritstones

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How the fuck do I get this fuckin shit? When a new store opens? How do I know when a new store is opening?

Fucking GW

>>51327799
she said that SoB or Eldar was her designated female race

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>>51327988

Get one off Ebay for $100

>>51327294

Because wraith guard can't use the D from inside a falcon/serpent

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>>51326881
>eldar
>winning anything
must suck to be desperate to the point of delusion

>>51327294
Because Hoverboats are Radical?

>>51327294
The fucker has Harlequins you dipshit. Reading comprehension.

>>51328058
>he doesn't know about the FAQ
Enjoy your turn 3/4 D assuming the Raider doesn't get blown out of the sky before then or the WG don't get BTFO'd turn 1.

WWP Archon bitchbois is where it's at now.

>>51327988
the fuck is this?
How the fuck could I possibly get one anyway? There isn't a single fucking GW in my entire state.

THINGS SHALL GET LOUD NOW!!

>>51327988
>How do I know when a new store is opening?

If you were a real nerd, you'd have that shit memorized

>>51328130
Exclusivity bullshit so the turbonerds can feel special

>>51328148
To memorize something I'd need the information in the first place.

>>51328159
>To memorize something I'd need the information in the first place.

Make friends with GW employees and ask them, then fly to Buffalo or wherever the fuck it's opening

>>51327749

Why no DT in KT?

>>51327749
just ask if you can do it anyways. not like someone from gw gonna beat your ass for ding it

>>51327969

So take the vehicle in the Fast Attack slot.

>>51328181
Yes, do this 8 times to earn the privilege of BUYING a model.

GW really don't know how promotions work.

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How does my list look? Not interested in super nitpicking, just if it's decent for pub games.

>>51328251
>8

10, anon

>>51328100
Are you completely stupid? Do you struggle with reading?
Read the fucking reply chain before you respond idiot!

>>51328204
Doesn't KT have an av limit or some shit

>>51326990
balistarii have arms, they arent quite that big but there are there, i just put one together yesterday.

>>51328259
Fuck, yeah. For some reason I saw two rows of 4 instead of 5. I live in the UK and I can't even think of 10 stores that are currently open in driving distance, let alone where they could put more.

>>51328274
yes

you can take a razorback though

>>51328311

Do you live in the rural belt that voted for Brexit or something?

>>51328204
I mean technically you can play DW in KT but the problem really is the fact that they are limited because there is a 200 point limit. Which isnt ideal considering like 10 guys is like 1000 points

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>>51328331
Rural belt? You mean like 80% of the physical country?

>>51328372
Yanks thinking the UK = London lmao

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>>51327336
>>51328331
>This thread
>mad enough to bring up their hate for Trump and Brexit in 40k general
>having to voice their unpopular opinions on /tg/ because /pol/ assrapes them

Stay classy, xenos players

>>51328358

I don't play DW, but they said no DT in KT, and I was wondering if that was some retarded change GW did.

>>51328331
>Everyone who wanted Brexit is a rural redneck

Get the fuck out EU bootlicking scum

>>51327943
Really? Better than War convo's free roughly 800pts? And the army wide bonuses coverering skitarri and admech and knights? and the no gets hot on plasma? An extra 200-400 pts of cultists with an apostle tax is better than all that?

>>51328372
CONCRETE THE COUNTRYSIDE

LET IN 6 BILLION IMMIGRANTS

HAGGIS FOR THE HAGGIS GOD

>>51328407
Which is worse
the Tau player who believes Signature Systems are not relic equivalents and thus are immune to relics rules
the Tau player who believes Signature Systems /are/ relics and therefore think that they have access to celestine/Cawl relic lists?

>>51327784
Eric?

>>51328410
no, DTs are in KT

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>>51328440

if britain's economy tanks will that increase or decrease gw's prices?

>>51328440
>>51328431
>>51328407
>>51328406
>>51328331
>>51328462
stop the /pol/ shit and let's get back to 40k please

>>51328456
nah but
who is this Eric ?

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>>51328482
>let's get back to 40k please

>>51328479
it won't change GW's prices, but it will balloon their earnings

>>51328479
>GW
>Price decreasing
>Ever
>For any reason

I don't really know how you think those two things could even be in the same sentance.

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>>51328482

>>51328407
I dont care for trump but it is clear that the spineless faggots in here are very much brexit and trump supporters. Since liberals are bold retards who have 0 sense of reason and conservatives tend to have more sense but less spine.

>>51328479
gw's price will probably stay the same but if the brittish pound drops in value forgeworlds stuff will be cheaper.

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>>51328482

report all off topic posts

on topic: who else pre-ordered gangs of commorragh (I got three)

>>51328500
>>51328527

interdasting

>>51328520
That can't be real.

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>>51328204

Not in Kill Team but the Deathwatch Kill Teams can't take dedicated transports

>>51328521
>being butthurt about something you cannot change and will never be able to change
commit suicide or accept nihilism tbqh pham

>>51328549
OH WOW, WHAT A GLARING OVERSIGHT

>>51328258
Its looks fine enough Anon. The only thing i would attempt to do is instead of taking the autocannon heavy weapons squad take another infantry squad instead - then add the heavy weapons teams to each squad.

You get 3 more lasguns, 1 more laspistol and a lot more survivability for your autocannons for 5 points. The only issue is that you'd have to find 5 points from somewhere and there's nothing to trim from your list.

The only thing would be to drop the Executioner plasma sponsons or take a slightly cheaper russ such as the Exterminator instead of a regular russ. At that point its not really worth it.

>>51327949
>the one that follows

t..theres more?

>>51328576
yeah but this one makes sense

Can we just scrap the whole concept of "Dedicated transports"? It's fucking bullshit, if I run a standard FOC army, any unit should be able to start in any vehicle provided they can fit in it.

>>51328492
One of my friends who loves Moemon and has an interest in 40k.

>>51328600
I suspect that's because the question isn't a byzantine maze.

Any word on when the new plastic Lord of Change and the Blue/Brimstone Horror models are supposed to be released?

>>51328608
That's missing the point. Dedicated transports exist so they don't take up a force organization slot.

>>51326798
I have never seen this before.

>>51327784
what's the stream, sounds neat

>this weeks only release was Gangs of rapeville
goddammit

>>51328566
Yeah that was my thoughts too, thanks anon.

>>51328662
>£35 for six Reavers
>laughingdeplayers.jpg

>>51328632
What would be nice is if literally everything could take a dedicated transport providing it can fit into them. Even if they don't need one or it doesn't make sense.

Just have the factions transport pool avaliable to everyone.

>>51328559
The only thing that I accept is the greater good. The emperor is dead and so is the imperium of man. Chaos is coming, Merry Slaaneshmas faggot

>>51328608
Why do you think transports got their own FOC slots?

When you buy a DT, you're saving on the FOC slots by dedicating that transport to the unit that bought it. Any other unit can use it during the game (as long as said unit doesn't have restrictions like no terminators in a Rhino), but the transport was primarily provided to the unit it was bought with and they're the primary beneficiaries of the vehicle. If you want some other unit to use a transport, give it to them as a DT or use a FOC slot to buy the transport.

>>51328672
This

Can I attack buildings like the basilica administratum and what armour value is used for them?
Going by the rulebook it should be possible to attack buildings and all that but I don't see any given value for it's armor

>>51328671

>playing DE
>laughingeveryoneelse.png

>>51328671

fucking no one will buy reavers or hellions separately anymore

Is there somewhere I can get cheap 40k style gothic buildings for terrain? The geedubs stuff look cool but fuck paying that much.

>>51328687
Those aren't fortifications, just terrain that you can buy.

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>>51328679
...
go outside more

>>51328696
nobody buys hellions to begin with

>>51328645
the channel's name is Yemetis

she's french and don't speak english very well but don't tell her that you got this on a 4chan 40k thread or i would be busted very quickly
add this in front the twitch URL and you will find
/yemetis

>>51328734
hopefully no one shits on your parade fampai, just thought it sounded neat, was gonna watch without talking

appreciate it

>>51328663
Its a pretty solid list Anon. An alternative tactic could be to drop a LRBT entirely.

Then you could grab Pask and put him in the executioner with a squadmate tank. Leaves you 75 points - grab a Chimera to make the CCS more survivable and use the remaining 10 points to give your platoon command some special weapons or a heavy weapon.

Just a thought, not saying you should give up a russ for that but you do have some options.

>>51328704
so I cannot target the building at large when enemy units occupy it?

>>51328734
it's not like she's your gf (real) anyway

>>51326649
Played a 4-round tournament today, local club with ITC rules.

Ran the following lists:

Tau CAD 1500
Shas'O R'alai
Cadre Fireblade (warlord)
Iontide
Strike Team
Breachers in Devilfish
2 Remoras
Tireless Hunter Piranha
2 individual Missilesides

Optimized Stealth Cadre

Kill Team (200)
TL Missile pod Crisis (commander)
Double flamer Crisis (stealth)
TL plasma Crisis (Eagle eye)
12 Kroot snipers (1 with Killer Instinct)

Game one: Defense against Death Guard. Lost 14-1. Mix of poor deployment and placement (let my ghostkeel get charged by Spawn because I wasn't familiar with beast rules) and getting fucked by 4 out flanking acute senses rhinos and a bike squad.

Game 2: Kill Team defense against Iron Warriors. Lost 6-1. I didn't read the mission rules well enough or I'd have protected my specialists better (he got points for killing them, I'd get points for them surviving). Also made the terrible mistake of charging MULTIPLE Kroot against a Spawn, otherwise I could have contested an objective.

Game 3: Kill Team attack against Guard. Won 4-2. My ability to sabotage objectives as my main source of points heavily benefited from Infiltrate, and lots of forest terrain. Would have had linebreaker if we didn't run out of time.

Game 4: defense against White Scars hunters and knight. Lost 6-0. Started well by shooting 4 bike squads off the board turn 1, but could not kill the Artifice armor captain and couldn't reach the objectives in time, and the Knight cleared both objectives I was holding. Also, deep striked Remoras because I was overly intimidated by the quad cannon objective, and they mishap exploded.

Overall, had a good time. Definitely enjoyed the lower point cost games more, less stressful.

>>51328756
Target the enemy and if you hit them the building will act accordingly (breaking, falling etc.)

Such is the will of the Machine God, who's tools forged that building

Is there any cool tempestus conversions? or bits?

>>51328751
you can ask question, but don't make it like it's a 4chan raid
she has a heart disease and easily startled
>>51328760
she's not but she's one of the few that don't behave like SFW camgirl on twitch

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>>51328734
>but don't tell her that you got this on a 4chan 40k thread or i would be busted very quickly

>>51328712

I have them, they're cool minis. Also gonna buy Gangs of Comorragh as well

>>51328844
what did he mean by this ?

If the Emperor is so great, why didn't he just heal himself?

Loads of psykers can heal injuries

>>51328694
>implying I can't just take DE to season a Acraftworldi Aeldari army if my opponent is bringing cheese
>implying I'll use all of them as Reavers and won't convert some into Corsair Cloud Dancers

>>51328696
>implying this is a bad thing
Also >>51328712

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>>51328825
holy fuck just keep on throwing buckets of chum into the water why dontcha

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>>51328873
I mean it's BULLY TIME!

Pucker up, nerd, I'm about to humiliate you in front of your 40k internet girlfriend!

>>51328825

Do you have feelings for her?

>>51328882

Never said it's a bad thing, I play DE too. GW's pricing habits are just wildly confusing.

>>51328876
Not while they're dying of CHAOS!

>>51328914
not at all
sh's just a really good streamer
plus i have already a crush on someone

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>>51328929
>plus i have already a crush on someone

So what does /tg/ think is the most cancerous 40k meme?

I feel like every foes through that phase where they read every page on 1d4chan and are all "LE METAL BAWKSIES" but most people mellow out and most of the classic memes get way overused

why is there no protection on the balistarii?
the walker is huge so its easy to shoot the guy sitting on top

one would think that an entire planet of engineers would be smart enough to design a walker that actually protects its users

>>51328955
>So what does /tg/ think is the most cancerous 40k meme?

I dunno how much time you spend on /wsg/, but those paper cutouts are getting on my tits

>>51328955
Trump Emperor, Matt Ward, Space Yiffs, in that order.

1d4 is distilled cancer though so it's not fair to judge based on it alone.

>>51328970
I thought designing was forbidden because it changes the God Machine's divine plans

You replicate, you don't improve

>>51328974
What like the text to speech style cutouts?

>>51328987
Yeah

>>51328970
>AV11/11/11
>no protection
Nigga let me tell you about the Scout Sentinel or even the fucking War Walker.

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>>51328974
>>51328987
>>51328989

What cases do you guys use for your armies?

>>51328970
Built for speed

>>51329008
i use a large cardboard box because im a cheap motherfucker

>>51328990
He means outside of the tabletop.

Like a single accurate shot could take out the pilot with an even more likely chance than the Scout Sentinel would have

>>51329008
I got a KR Kaiser case as a gift. I like it quite a bit even if half the trays that were supposed to be included never showed up.

>>51328707
I go plenty outside. I like literally live at the game store at this point.

>>51328955
the Purge and Heresy meme
also the fact that if you play a xeno race you galmost get called " Xenofucker or else
really get on my nerves

>>51328876
Did you see what Horus did to him? According to some lore that classic art of him on the throne is what he looked like right after the battle, he got fucked up

Plus it's implied in a lot of lore his soul has been damaged and splintered

Plus plus he is using all his psykic might to power the astronomicon and hold back chaos

Give the guy a break he's trying his best
>it's not like he's guliman or anything and can heal in stasis or something like that

>>51329021
frbr

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>>51328974
>>51328987
>>51328989

>>51329023
The Sydonian/Ironstrider is literally just a mechanical horse though. It serves exactly the same roles as a mobile firing platform or mounted charger platform.

The War Walker (especially the old one) and the likes of the Dreadknight have no such excuse.

>>51329008
Rimowa case.

>using a fucking cardboard
>not valuing your models and the time spent assembling and painting them

i have no respect for people like you

>>51327784

Why does everyone think things are memes? Like, it's not even a funny or interesting meme, it makes no sense. I guess that's true of a lot of memes, but still.

There's a reason we randomly repeat certain things all the time, like Tau players being douchebags with unpainted Riptides, or all women liking Tyranids, or to thin your paints. It's because they're true, and the more people think they're memes, the more they get repeated to tell these people they are wrong.

Imagine if morons kept not believing the world was round. The streets would be filled with shouts of THE WORLD ISN'T FLAT YOU DUMB FUCKER

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>>51329041
>>51328997
Uh oh... it's starting

>>51329036
what

>>51329058
That's literally the definition of a meme though.

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>>51329058
Anon are you trying to tell me that all meme are not in fact dreams?

>>51329008
A bucket.
Makes deploying a green tide all the easier, and with clever us of magnets it can be put upside down and used as a stompa.

>>51329057
you think i throw the box around like some kind of monkey or something? if you arent stupid a large enough box is fine.

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>>51329061

>>51329058
in this sentence i used memes in the original sense

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>>51329066
LEARN TO EXTRAPOLATE FAGGOT

>>51328955

the one old space marine miniature meme that everyone keeps posting on /wip/ is cringy af

>>51326967
Calling GW's new material is about as straight and patrician as one can get.

>>51329048
do you know how fast striders move?

>>51329091
Johnny?

>>51329117
Either Johnny or Duncan's First

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>>51329029
>go outside
>i go outside, i go from inside my house to inside a store
>all the time
kek

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>>51328134
So loud.

So are tank crews counted as part of a Space Marine chapters strength?

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>>51328895

Stop that, Brother Toa, you know the fleet's chum supply has been dwindling of late.

>>51329024
I think I might go with this (just buying foam, though, since I have plenty of boxes that can fit the foam).

>>51328955
All of them.

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>>51328989

>>51329131

Can't be because companies have 100 marines listed and then extra rhinos, dreads, and other vehicles

>>51329134
>buying expensive foam
>not using kitchen rolls instead
some people...

speaking of scout sentinels are they actually viable?

i love their looks

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>>51329133
it has been sanctioned


fall back in line Sergeant AhoHaka

>>51329168
They're fuckin $26 each when you factor in shipping. I'm tired of having to wrap these fuckers in bubble wrap every time I go to the shop and I can't be arsed to cut my own compartments.

I have a lore question: Why are psykers treated like shit? The Emperor himself was one (still is). How come societies look down on psykers and call them mutants?

>>51327212

The fact that you have to identify the cheesy marine list instead of just saying "marine player" is already proof that Tau and Eldar are more degenerate. You don't even need to identify those factions by their cheese builds because almost all their builds are cheesy.

>>51329188
meant $16 each.

>>51329168
Incidentally, this also applies to wet palettes.

>>51329166
So does the Codex Astartes put any limit on how many vehicles and ships a chapter can possess?

Is it just limiting them to 1000 basic marines?

And what about dreadnaughts and aspirants, is there a limit on there numbers?

I gen up cannot understand how space marine chapters exist and work.

>>51329204
>Combined arms Tau is cheese
>Footdar/Meleedar is cheese
wew lad

>>51329208
actually wait, I just found the same shit for $7 on ebay free shipping nvm.

Remember kids, it pays to shop around.

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> list (mostly) unaugmented 'umies that could in the lore beat a regular space marine in a 1v1 duel
>hard mode, no psychic shenanigans
I'll start, pic related

What are your thoughts on guard grenade launchers? I personally like them a lot, use them on one of my vet squads in chimeras

>>51329202
Because they are mutants and deal with infernal energies their entire lives so theres the possibility of becoming a portal to demons.

>>51329202
>he doesn't know about Old Night

>>51329240
Ogryns.

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>>51329202
the whole letting demons spill out through your brain thing

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>>51329240

>>51329240
creed

>>51329183
Short answer no

Long answer they are frail as fuck, hard to hide in cover, inaccurate, outclassed in most places by drop sentinels or armoured sentinels (or he'll other things in the codex)

They have a tiny niche for outflanking and snagging mid game objectives but that's about it

>>51329246
They are worse at killing high T and high AV things than plasma and melta and worse at killing hordes than flamers.

>>51329204
Firstly, >using degenerate unironically to describe Elf Monks in an autism dolly game

Secondly, there are buttloads of non-cheesy builds for both of those factions, you're actually getting butthurt over four or five OP/spammable units and formations from two codexes that each have dozens of units, and you probably don't even play against these cheese builds anyway and just complain on /tg/ about them, being unnecessarily hostile and scaring off new players in the process.

>>51329266
he is offensively skinny :(

Would the Empire be fucked without the existence of Space Marine Chapters?

>>51329273
Even though I'm a guardfag I don't know much about creeds lore, I thought he was more a tactician than a fighter

Could he really, locked in a room with his equipment, take down a space marine in combat?

>>51329131
I thought that space marine vehicles were crewed exclusively by tech marines?

I also think that the chapter does count them since they have 9 companies of 100~ marines each with chapter command staff on top of that. 10th company is a variable number so they come out at about 1000 or so.

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>>51329246

Garbage. I remember taking mass GL in my IG army and struggling to kill anything.

>>51329236

CAD Tau was what they were in 6E, and they were cheese. How is 1 XV85, 3 Riptides, 2 Stormsurges, and 2x3 XV8 in a CAD not cheese? They are cheese even with zero formation bonuses.

Footdar is STILL better than casual marine armies or shitty armies like orks. Both WK and war walkers and warp spiders, all their best non jet bike units, are foot units. Meleedar are literally better at assault than all armies except dedicated heavy assault like BA SW and Khorne.

I love it when only clueless dipshit who don't even play the game are the ones who try to pretend broken ass shit isn't that bad in order to impress people on /tg/ by sounding tough

>>51329292
>Empire

>>51329268
When's the last time gaunt gave a fuck?

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>>51329292
on a slightly higher level than it already is

>>51329246
Good on regular guardsmen squads if you have spare points and are pairing them with autocannons.

Everywhere else have better options.

>>51329202
Who let you use a computer on the blackship?

Enjoy being used as glorified batteries for the golden throne psykerfag

>>51329292
Yes, the Tau will be destroyed if the marines aren't around to cripple enemy buildups

>>51329328
From what I recall gaunt gave quite a few fucks in the books...

>>>>51329307

>>>>51329278
Come on guys they are not that bad. They can deal with hordes at higher range than flamers and cant kill your dudes, unlike plasmas. And you can choose between killing tarpits or something stronger. A good jack of all trades

>>51329309
A Combined Arms Detachment is a game concept, combined arms is a real-life concept. He's saying a Tau that doesn't spam and uses a variety of units.

Footdar is significantly worse than casual marines armies. T3 units with 12-18" guns without a delivery system die, it's really that simple. They need transports, decurion buffs, or to be Warp Spiders to do well. Also meleedar are uniquely mediocre, there's literally one worthwhile melee unit in the codex and that's the Wraithknight. Everything else is incredibly fragile, situational, and expensive. T3 units can't avoid damage in melee, and they get no cover save. Literally how do you think Meleedar are better than all these other armies?

>>51329287
>he actually believes a random Eldar unit will be weaker than a random marine unit
>he hasn't seen the droves of new tau players buying riptides because giant robots

Sit down newfag

i want to start orks and strachbuild vehicles and shit.

what ork shit should i buy first?

can the Castellans of the Imperium detachment take fortifications?

>>51329383
>cant kill your dudes
Blasts scatter.

>>51329235
The limit is basically the 10 companies with 10 squads of 10 men. Everything else is more or less support staff.

Vehicles come from the chapter motor pool, apothecaries, librarians, chaplains, etc. from their own units. Honor guard is outside the 10 companies as well, I believe. I think someone calculated that according to all the official numbers given, Ultras, for example, have like 1200 Marines or something. And that doesn't count in all the serfs and shit.

>>51329300
there would be two regiments of guard hiding under each of the space marine's pauldrons

>>51329202
A bit of insight from Mortarions perspective.
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Daemonology_(Short_Story)

>>51329422
Boyz

>>51329425
Its less likely to scatter on you or others, especially with BS 4 then just rolling a one and failing a 5/4+

>>51328977
>Space Yiffs
Trash sons player detected

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>go to tournament
>half of the armies have multiple riptides and a wraithknight
>get wiped by skitmech in the first match
hoo boy

>have a blast against casual as fuck ork player and daemonkin player after getting into the losers/cool kids bracket
>end with 1 - 1 - 1
My terminators and dreadnoughts were heroes in the games they didn't immediately die on the first turn.

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>>51329142
>>51329127
>>51329085
>>51329041
>>51328997

>>51329246
They're a decent cheap all around weapon for general purpose squads.

>>51329422
whatever you find cheap second hand.

Trukks are great sources for conversion material

>>51329278
Melta and flamers are short ranged, plasma expensive and blows up in your face.

I've had no problems putting launchers into infantry squads that stay at a distance and just shoot. I find it to work well enough with autocannons and missile launchers. I'll usually save plasma and meltas for squads that can take multiples of them and flamers for more mobile squads.

>>51329383
>A good jack of all trades

Such a thing doesn't exist. Jack of all trades, master of none. If you're intelligent with your army composition you can build such that you are always better off specializing.

Need to kill hordes (or any infantry for that matter)?

>take two or three Wyverns

Need to kill something stronger?

>Meltavets in Chimera
>Autocannon
>Artillery/tanks

GLs are not worth taking unless you literally can't put the points anywhere else.

how come the links in OP are not taken down?

>>51329240
Anyone with a volkite and good aim

>>51329490
I'm in the same boat as this Anon. Everything has a place and a use.

>>51329459
im thinking like 100 of them? should i aim lower?

>>51329504
>Everything has a place and a use.
I don't

>>51329499

What kind of fucking question is that?

>>51328955
Tau are inherently OP. Just look at the tournament stats, it's still all Eldar, marines, and even daemons.

>>51329465
>seriousTournies.jpg

>>51329491
>Good jack of all trades doesn't exist

Grav

>>51329523
Join the guard. You'll either find your place or find your grave.

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>>51329445
>Chagrined by his defeat at the hands of Jaghatai Khan

>>51329524
People should pay for the rules my dear

>>51329523
Don't put yourself down, I'm sure you'd make excellent garden much

>>51329532
>Grav
>Jack of all trades
Learn what that phrase means

>>51329523
You can be used as an exception to the rule.

>>51329491
What if I only have one plasma gun so Im using nades on my vets instead . But I still like them a lot, they are fun with a chimera.

>>51329532
Grav is not that good against hordes. Grav-cannon + amp, still good because reroll to wound.

But that is their weakness.

Also, they can't move (or have to be on bikes).

>>51329508
I'm not an irl player mind you, but I play against an ork player a lot, his "elite" army has at least 40 boys, and yeah he has pushed 100 with blobboyz

Just remember, you don't play orkz to win, you play orkz to have fun, so build a list that sounds fun to you

>>51329532
Literally worse than lasguns vs hordes.

>>51329541

Are you the internet police? Mind your own fucking business, cunt!