Q - How do I play?
A - It's a CYOA, there are no established mechanics for the rescue. All the pages to the game are in the imgur album linked in resources.
Q - Why aren't/are we we working on; Gen V/Knights/combat mechanics/etc.
A - No. We recognize that spreading out our efforts is what originally killed the project. Accordingly, we're focusing on just one thing at a time and finishing them out.
Q - Hey, can we make a pricness about X fetish?
A - It generally comes down to what people like. Propose the idea and see if others want it.
Q - Is there a map/unified setting?
A - Nope. Though proposals have been made, nothing concrete has been created.
Q - Can I post fanart/fanfiction here?
A - Go right on ahead, just make sure it's within the global rules.
Imgur Album - http://imgur.com/a/maXHJ
Tower Girls infinity chan Board - https:// infinity ch.net/twgrl
Booru - http://tower-girls.booru.org/
Princess, Item, and Companion Templates - http://www.mediafire.com/download/6yh42feo96989sp/Templates.zip
Original Brush (Artists, please use these):
Photoshop - http://stumpypencil.blogspot.com/2009/11/return-of-stumpy-pencil.html
SAI - http://beroleagle.deviantart.com/art/Paint-Tool-SAI-Pencil-Brushes-96742060
Gimp - http://elmerucr.deviantart.com/art/Real-Pencil-Brushes-for-GIMP-57810771
She's into buttraping you. While I'd like something that looks like that blue-haired what's her name, or the Inklings, I'd probably rather they have different fetishes. That's my taste.
Alright, so, picking up where we left off,
>Stratification on Twins v. Witch
>Witch just needs a finished personality
>Twins have no major points for them beyond "Uses an art asset."
I still prefer Twins as a concept, but I get the converse points and have to agree Witch solo is probably a better idea.
Aren't we getting a little ahead of ourselves talking about DP5?
Don't we have like 11 more princesses to make first?
Agreed. We didn't really get a good grasp of people's thoughts on the personality though because the strawpoll for that seemed pretty biased towards the Napoleon one. A lot of people said that none of the options in the poll were good, so it wasn't very successful. If someone could create a different poll for that, maybe asking what the options ought to be first so that everyone can vote for an option they can get behind, that would be good.
Sounds good to me.
Napoleon for one.
Magic Caster for another.
Lazy cartoon villain for a third.
This isn't an ice cream cone. This is an ice cream sundae in a big tub. We can attack it from any angle.
>A lot of people said that none of the options in the poll were good
>one vote of other
>not much discussion
Why do people think they can rewrite what happened when it's literally right there?
We were up to adding one more facet to the Napoleon territory grabber to fill out her personality.
And she uses Magic.
I always felt that liking to conquer land is fine, but not to ignore her magic focus or mystic elements.
And yeah we still need to come up with a 'endearing' aspect of her personality for waifu points. Something cute or attractive.
what about 11 more dragon princesses
Metallic Dragons and Bahamut.
Then we go on to make the Gem Dragons, the neutral equivalent to Metallic and Chromatic.
Then? We make fucking Time Dragon Princess, Force Dragon Princess, and Prismatic Dragon Princess.
Not sure what you've got your panties in a tizzy about, but at least 2 people said last thread that the options were shit. Sooo, not really rewriting what happened, perhaps you just can't read. Not that I'm helping, but if people weren't so nasty to each other with what they had to say here, maybe we wouldn't have 100-post arguments over inane bullshit.
Look, we need to start with ESTABLISHED dragon types first, okay?
Then you convert all the other Princesses into dragons. Like Goblin Dragon Princess.
I liked that when it was just the "Tiamat loves Bahamut but doesn't know how to deal with it and wants him to take her." thread like it was at first. That weird shit later on? Not my thing.
'people get weirded out' hasn't stopped any of the other shit we've slapped into towergirls.
Especially something as vanilla as 'boobs make bigger'
Especially since we've already got 'change size of bodyparts' as a lust gift.
If that's the case, I'm perfectly fine with Napoleonic.
Seeing as you replied the way you did, who knows. Learn to let things go man. I was just saying some people could be more civil about what they have to say.
That's an argument, but I'm just giving you reasons why we might not go for that. I'd really prefer something else, and again that's my opinion.
It's too weird for me. Do we really have to split hairs on this instead of talk about potential alternatives?
Aight well, I'm throwing my hat on the ring on that one. When we get to spells, I'd like for it to be considered.
I meant, less feral versions for the dragons. If that makes any sense...
It was discussed every time gen 5 came up and the only time there was dissent was last thread where people talked about an alt idea, and other people said they'd like that to be the equivalent of item/companions so there'd be both.
Well as far as I can tell, the emphasis would be more on transformation itself, whereas the lust gift is more limited and geared more towards 'change proportions to your liking'
I mean, transformation magic could be shit like turning you into a dragon, not just 'make tits bigger'
Plus, this comes with the 'insecure about her body' thing, which I think is kinda cute.
I think it's insecure too, but for me? The cute thing about a girl being insecure is that you can make her feel good about herself and come to like her body. If she just zaps herself into something else to solve it then the cute element is gone, it's just a girl wanting something and doing it.
Also turning into other shit just makes it weird. What if she wants to turn into a chair or whatever? Definitely more extreme than wanting to alter her body proportions.
Another thing I'm wondering here is in what direction you mean insecure. You can see from the pic that she's not smaller than her sisters asset wise, so is she uncomfortable with being tall and thick? Does she want to shrink into a waifish human?
We usually discuss ideas instead of just voting on 'em. This is part of why over-reliance on polls is bad, it engenders this idea you can scream to get your way or just ignore people if you have someone backing you up. Really, just read my post here, >>45270949 it also poses some good questions even if you DO go with it.
Alright, been away from /tg/ for a while and saw this when i came back. I was in the old threads where gats helped make the new edition, are those still on an archive somewhere or have they been lost? Also how long has this been back for?
>cute thing about a girl being insecure is that you can make her feel good about herself and come to like her body
It's more about teasing her.
>Also turning into other shit just makes it weird. What if she wants to turn into a chair or whatever
This could make for some good slapstick if you piss her off too much.
>It's more about teasing her.
How are you gonna tease her if she can just zap into her ideal, though? She has no reason to be insecure anymore since she can look like whatever. That personality trait is quickly solved and becomes a non-factor.
I meant more if she wants to become a chair and get fucked or something.
Well there's nothing wrong with changing the art y'know. It'd be fairly simple to make her flat chested for instance.
And there's nothing saying you CAN'T make her confidant in her own body.
Just that she's insecure NOW and thinks changing herself is the way to go
Darn dragon magic resistance. Depends on who's playing.
Eh, it's generally assumed pros and cons are pretty set in stone, especially with the mechanic of using a lust gift to change them being around enforcing it a little.
Also I feel that altering the art is a bit silly, we should worry more about adapting our ideas around the image for the most part.
Sounds like everybody ever.
Well the con would be 'insecure in her own body'
It doesn't matter how you go about dealing with that, if at all. You could help her get over it, you could not...
Could be she can't transform herself yet, because dragon, so she's been experimenting on other people to get better.
Oops, I missed the 'like'.
A lot of people are insecure and aren't sure what they want out of life. It's pretty common, especially among teens and young adults.
Honestly, I feel like we may be going in circles by now. If she's magically resistant to her transformation magic then I'm a bit more cool with it since it creates room for other solutions. If everyone else likes it so much we can go with that, since it seems like people are generally in favor.
>Connect to new wifi
>Come back to the last half of the last thread
Holy shit. What the hell happened?
Anyway, here's my opinions.
DP5 is a sorceress princess. I was in favor of the trying to hoard magic thing, but I'm fine with the conqueror thing. Sorceresses can be conquerors too.
Twin thing is dumb.
Sorry this took a while, struggled with the design. Any other princesses?
Yeah, I don't know much about their anatomy.
My shitty game got himself 2 artists too good for it! Let's party!
DP3 in the charts is drawn as chubbier, while DP1 isn't all that fat, but DP1 is the one who'se "thing" is having an insatiable appetite, and a lot of fanart draws her as fat (or at least with a huge belly).
My quess is that she has a very fast metabolism.
Probably. She's the awkward one with self-esteem probelms after all (although those largely stems from her breath being poisonous so nobody wants to be anywhere near her).
On an unrelated note, while there seems ot be a decent enough consensust that the gimmic of gen 5 is magic/spells, we should figure out exactly how that would be implemented.
What would people think of giving Dragon Queen a boss sheet?
I know she's already one of the rewards, but I think it's bit of a waste to not give her actual stats and info now that bosses are a thing. Especially since it would make sense for the knight to face her at some point even if he didn't rescue all the Dragon Princesses (infact, if you slew them I'd bet she'd get mad and come after you). Having her automaticallt join you if you save all DPs still works as a reward, but I think there should be an option to fight her even if you didn't.
Rules Lawyering for Dummies for GM Princess is fucking ridiculous.
Seems like the fan stuff should have been edited to weed out some of the more retardedly useless or OP things.
I mean there's one dowry that gives you 3 free slots so effectively amounts to at least one free space and a free princess and another dowry that makes whales horny.
>Should have been edited
At the time of her creation, it was me hanging out with some buddies playing the game. DM asked me to make her into one, so I did. Made it fun for our group. Also, Dark Cultist Companion in Gen III does the exact same thing. So, yeah, they're probably imbalanced. Kind of why its brought up that we should reorganize the Fan Princesses into their own gen.
Cultist is worded so that he gives you two extra seats, but only when he's in the wagon (in which case he's taking a seat). My idea was that if you take him you can rescue one more princess than normally since instead of rescuing 4 princesses you can rescue 5 and the cultist. Wording is a bit awkward, though. On hindsight, should have just written "lets you rescue one extra princess".
Companion abilities I think can be more powerful or specialized than princess ones, I think, as the ability is pretty much the point of the companion, while princesses in most gens have more than one effect to choose from, plus the lust bonus and the waifu potential (well, some of them are also good waifus/husbandos/bros, but the cultist is none of those).
Pretty slow right now, but considering there was a very large amount of post in the previoud thread and this one during American day, I think that's when most of the contributors are active.
I should start doing some new princesses but I'd want to see what eactly are we doing as the theme of the gen and how the sheets should look first.
Pretty sure we're going with the "magically charged landscape" theme. Cause there hasn't been any other recommendation IIRC.
Which means tiles are basically identical to Gen 1, but replace Lust Gifts with spells/buffs the Princesses gift to you as boons to aid you in stopping DP5.
Why not just add the default love and lust before you raise them? It's not like these take place on a set time frame as far as I know, so no time could have passed and all the states are baseline or enough time could have passed that they're max across the board
Just make it depend on the starting value of the stats. ie. which spell you get is determined whether you've rescued more princesses with love higher than lust or lust higher than love on their sheet.
Oh...Well, I want you to know I had a lot of fun, dude. Thanks for the good times. And I hope you'll be able to do more someday.
Anon why do you keep acting like the spell thing hasn't been posted fifty times? You keep pretending it doesn't exist.
The landscape thing has been discussed for the companion/item equivalent though.
Lust/love versions of spells are this gen's equivalent of classes, minions, and idols. It'll be based on which you max first for the current princesses, what the old gens have doesn't matter.
I'm not sure I like the idea of getting the spell after maxing out the pricness's lust/love, because I see it having two problems.
1) There are multiple princesses that start out with maxed lust or love. With those, you would immediately get one spell with no way of getting the other. Or if a princess is one bar away from max value on one stats and has 0 bars on another, should the reward that takes more work be more powerful for balance reasons?
2) While it's never been established how long it takes to raise the lust or love stat it's generally been implied to take a fairly long time, especially if the princess has a low score on the stat. Making you max out the stat before getitng the spell would mean it could take a long time before you actually get any reward. Besides, you already have the lust bonus as a reward for maxing out lust (although there is no similar reward for maxing out love).
>There are multiple princesses that start out with maxed lust or love.
We're talking Gen V princesses. We don't know what stats they'll have.
This thing is so vague does it really come into play? It's not like we have time mechanics.
I still think the best option is just to make it like Gen 3. Each princess has two spells, and which one you get is based on your total default love or lust levels from all the gens prior to this one.
Admittably, that does have its problems as well.
See, in gen 3 the minions had other uses than just the wealth/power bonus, even if they didn't have direct rules for them. The wealth/power bonues was just one specific utility you got out of them depending on which stats you ahd higher, so being limited to always getting the same type wasn't a big deal.
With the spells, since all you get is one of the two spells always getting the love or lust spell with no ability to choose would be kind of boring.
Tbh I think the best way would be to just let you choose which spell you take. Maybe make one spell scale with lust and another with love, if we want to tie them to the stats (like a shielding spell whose power grows the more the princess loves you, or a flame spell that burns hotter the higher her lust is).
The idea was always to base it off of your total, ala Gen III. However, here is a proposal to solve the issue poster 3 in my quote block brings up. Why not use the lands as replacements for followers? The deed to their associated land takes up a slot, giving you some bonus, while they also come with their love or lust spell?
And for those saying "It's not a kingdom builder", we have gods that give you a wild variety of effects and mundane items that do amazing things. I'm sure we can come up with lands that do interesting things.
You mean companions? I think the landscape thing should work out as our equivalent to the items/companions from this gen. They take up a slot and they're optional, and get their own page.
Depends on whether you have option to not take the land. Dowries and followers also took slots in gen 1 and 3.
Although personally I'd implement lands more like the gods in gen 2, where they didn't take slots. You're not going to stick a land inside your wagon anyway.
The land + magic idea does seem pretty good to me, actually. It combines the two ideas for the gen's theme people have brought up and would avoid the issue in >>45283468
by always giving you the bonus of owning the land, in addition to the love- or lust effect.
Would these lands be like the whole kingdom, or some specific location (like an enchanted forest or a font of magical power)?
If they don't take up slots and we can reject them ('cause I know some of you are gonna come up with stupid shit I don't want) then I'm fine with lands being handled that way.
I think the kingdom is something you're getting regardless of if you take the land or not. Like with other kingdoms. The lands should probably be specific locations and landmarks because of that, and it'll also be easier to make them unique or interesting and varied.
Not the same anon, but I just finished one I've been working on for a while.
Half of those don't even fit the style, mate.
No, no aquatic theme. The DP definitely doesn't fit it. This is just some fanart people requested because the guy made a shark. We could use the other half of the art, but having some water princesses doesn't make it a water gen.
Also Mind Flayers are not aquatic.
I'd honestly be okay with a bevy of aquatic Princesses, I mean we have, what, Mermaid, Angler, and Crustacean so far?
A few more wouldn't hurt.
>Underwater entities are exposed to powerful subterranean energies and can channel them through dark magic
Cause I've been busy the last couple days. D&d games along with a major project for the semester. Part of why I've not been very active in the second half of the last thread and the beginning of this one.
qt kitsune princess when? I have no art skills, but it's surprising to not see one in here already.
I just pulled this "hamster princess" thing off of cheezburger. This needs to be a thing
There needs to be a gay version of Tower Girls.
Maybe... Bara Barbarians?
Any specific features that could use a polish?
I may try another version from scratch but I doubt the quality will change that much.
Maybe I could get a more skilled anon to redraw her. If that were case, any changes to the design?
I doubt there's enough community buy-in for that.
If you could get a dedicated artist to do rule 63 versions of all the princesses, it wouldn't be too hard to tweak the text to fit. That'd probably be your best bet for something like that. Good luck.
Mind flayers have four tentacles, I can try to make them closer to the mouth, but I'm worried it'll look like she has a sweet 'stache.
I was going for more of a demure thing, but now I'm liking the idea of a sultry, femme fatale.
That's a really good point. I think I'll try adding somewhat of a wet/oily sheen to her skin. Maybe lighten up the color too.
Thanks both a ya!
You can't just declare that.
Besides, that's not how this works. The artist sees other people's opinions, considers them if they want, then does what they feel is best. Number doesn't matter at all. They'll do what they want, ultimately. All we can do is express our desires. Trying to fight me, or declare yourself right or in the majority, accomplishes nothing.
>You can't just declare that.
Good thing i didn't.
>then does what they feel is best
And he chose femme fatale
>All we can do is express our desires
Which is what I did
>in the majority, accomplishes nothing.
Well it seemed to accomplish setting in stone DP5's personality and solved the DQ thing.
Seems to have a pretty good track record for something that accomplishes nothing.
>And he chose femme fatale
He said he was starting to like it and I just posted my opinion. What are you doing anon? Why does everything have to be an argument? Can't we get along?
Also the whole DP/Q thing isn't a debate over one artist's princess, but kinda one of the lynchpins of making a gen.
>everything have to be an argument? Can't we get along?
I thought we were getting along?
I thought this was a pretty civil disagreement?
If you can't handle having your opinions challenged I'll stop okay?
And I most likely am going to stick with demure, for the record.
If she doesn't get in as an official princess, I'll probably make her in the style of Gen. III and give her a companion that fits the femme fatale thing.
>You've only met one king and one Queen
Doesn't mean there aren't more.
There can be whole lineages of families in Towergirls leading to the current events, but because Gats never expanded upon backstory, it's all speculation.
Basically, Gen I had a ton of fan princesses made, so they're going to be organized into a fake generation of sorts, with the Wyvern Princess being that gen's equivalent of a Dragon Princess since she's a fake dragon.
I would have a word with you, varlet
Here you are. Also any more girl requests?
We could always make it so DP5 has a item that can turn others into a dragon
you combine it with the trident from Gen 1, and you can basically be a dragon or a human whenever you want
Sounds interesting. Like you have to fight or rescue some of the royal household. Some dragon princesses plotting against the dragon king to overwelm him woth the help of the knight.
But than we need more gem princesses.
You can come up with stories you like.
Even if gats make some lore. Its not official, its just gats lore.
Its always about "take what you like/suits and change things you feel wont fit".
>Its not official, its just gats lore.
Gats here, this is my stance on it too. I've expanded on the backstory, there are other kings and queens, etc. But that doesn't mean someone will have better/more interesting ideas that they'd rather use. It's always a 'do you what you feel is best' thing.
So what are we doing right now?
I know we're talking about the fan gen, but that's not a priority right now, is it? Like, we don't need to finish it before we move on, right? I know it should be done to clean up at least the first page, but still.
Or are we just trying to figure out the details for Gen V?
Currently we're in slow mode.
So far, we are talking about nothing specific.
We've gotten some Princess ideas, had a debate about DP5, and shitstormed over /trash/.
At the moment we're diving into Gen V, but with no clear idea on what part of it.
The spells idea is up for debate
>One basic spell with 2 modifiers based on original love and lust stats of other Princesses you've saved
>2 spells and you get one based on original love/lust of other Princesses you've saved
>Special Lands (a lot of hate for this one)
>Either of the first 2 and you pick
And as a possible Bonus
>You get special Lands added to your kingdom based on Princesses saved across all 5/Fan generations
DP5 has yielded
>Roughly even split between a Witch DP5 and the Twins idea, more Witch
>Predominantly a desire for she hoards land and exploits magical energy to further this goal
>Dragon Queen ain't showin' up
>Magic hoarder and lazy are basically out
And... that's it if I've been following thread properly. I'd be happy with anything to be perfectly honest, I just love seeing Towergirls advance and evolve.
Someone earlier mentioned making the 'Special Lands' into Landmarks, unique, relatively small features of the lands you gain from saving the princess.
Expanding on that, what if each princess gives access to a Magical Landmark that you can let stand or harvest for its magic, thus granting a Spell but destroying the Landmark.
This... could be good.
>Each Princess offers you a special Landmark
>You can destroy it for the magical energy stored inside
>You can save it for a bonus to your kingdom
That's quite a bit like the Gen 2 options where it's
>Benefit to kingdom
>"Benefit" to you
But this one would probably majorly piss off most of the Princesses
This may be worth thinking about...
Right on point.
And like >>45300455 said he is just a towergirl fan like us.
And can we agree that the birthday is 13.4?
Thats the earliest date i found that is towergirls concept related.
So do we need to do any actual work for the fake gen, or is that just taking the Gen 1 fan princesses and putting them in a separate chart with the wyvern princess? If that's all that needs to be done, then we could start compiling ideas for Gen V.
I'm willing to compromise. They're twins, you see? Circle Princess is the fluffy and curvy heir apparent. Triangle Princess is her edgy younger sister who is completely flat. Deal?
Twin-stick top down fast-paced Roguelite shooter.
It's fucking addicting.
Except for the nightmare that is unlocking some shit.
>beat Lil' Cunter for the first time
>It's on a run as Plant going for the 10 minute challenge
>Get all the fucking way to the throne
My face was pure shock.
Photoshop guy here. I'll be busy with tests all week. What do we need on the template? I was thinking of just using the GenIII one since we'd replace the follower with the landmark and each thing with spells.
That's probably it, if it can handle the >>45284559
Idea, which it probably should. Maybe include a note at the top of the page about just being able to reject landmarks.
Sorry bb, I am an uncultured swine I'm afraid.
I agree that this would probably be the best way to do it.
Yeah, that should be fine as long as the art fits okay.
So I guess we'll start brainstorming for Gen V then.
I remember someone mentioning an aging/de-aging device for the items, I think that could be a spell. Some kind of time or clock princess? Maybe a bit inspired by Xelors.
A fountain of youth could be a neat landmark for them, or some sort of aquatic or eternal, unaging princess.
Here's the Gen III template. Will it work for the ideas that have been said? My attention hasn't been here.