So it Begins

>>45255621
>Nahihi being cunt
what a surprise

>>45255621
>Werewolves still have the same flip clauses meaning they'll still only ever be vaguely useful in limited while going directly against the cards inherent aggressive nature
You had a chance to fix it. To make them playable, and you pissed it all away.
I'm not even surprised and yet I'm still mad.

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>>45255621
>Wizards is going to be super butthurt again
I love when people slowly start to realize what a terrible company they're supporting. Stick with eternal formats, boys.

>>45255621
I really like all four of the abilities presented too. Madness makes its triumphant return, Delirium is an interesting take on a threshold mechanic, Skulk is a great evasive ability for little bodies and Investigate seems like a really interesting way of getting card advantage in the long-term.

>>45255839
Skulk is shit.

>>45255861
You a shit.

>No riggers or contraptions
Its ok, they're coming next block then; unless Ludvic shows up with them in the second set.

>>45255832
Can't even play werewolves in in kitchen table. So godamn shitty.

>>45255621
Calling it now, U/B control archetype featuring delirium and investigate will rise to prominence in limited, if not standard.

Welcome to the year of Blue's Clues, motherfuckers.

>>45255832

WotC isn't actually that great. Look at what they put out next to FFG. WotC just has market saturation.

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>>45255650
Chandere pls go.

>chandere will never not be buttmad about Nahiri

We already have this thread.
There's almost 400 replies already.

>>45251395
>>45251395
>>45251395

>>45256540
>page 9
>thread on autosage
Are you retarded?

lmao how bad is the butthurt going to be on monday?

>>45256696
>Madness is back
>Delirium isn't utter garbagio
>Blues Clues Hype
>No sign of eldrazi
>Signs of Devil tribal/token spam archetype

Other than the return of Werewolves, using the same flip trigger, not much to be butthurt over, friend.

>>45256540
Go back to plebbit you enormous fucking retard holy shit

Fucking newfags not lurking before posting

>make 6th color in last set
>only has 2 support cards for gimmicky use
>completely drop it next set, dont even finish the eldrazi triad
bravo wizards

>>45256754
He means from Wizards. Remember how upset they were when Oath stuff leaked?

>>45256810
They got pissed off because the leak stole their thunder with the reveal of Newzilek. That's literally the only reason they gave a shit.

>>45256841
And now someone stole their thunder for every single mechanic in the set

>>45256868
Half of which we already saw coming, the other half we probably don't give a shit about save for BLUES CLUES.

>>45256540
So you learned how to link a thread but not when it autosages?

bumping for more INN shitting

>>45256799
We've seen thirteen cards out of a nearly 300 card set.

>Devils
>Devil tokens
New Tibalt confirmed?

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>>45255832

>Mark "Shekelatog" Rosewater's face when

>>45255920
They will appears in Muraganda.

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>>45255621
The amount of leaks we currently get is fucking hilarious.

>>45255757
I like their flip. They just need to be pushed more in the numbers department.

Playing one thing per turn is fun.

>>45258380
Yup. This one won't be playable either.

For a second I was hyped about Madness but then I remembered the year it is and how they will just make the blandest fucking cards ever. I can see it now

U Mad
Mythic Rare
3G
Sorcery
Madness G
Put two +1/+1 counters on target creature you control

>>45259895
>green madness card
you give them too much credit. i bet it doesn't even show up outside of red, black and maybe blue, if we're lucky

>expose evil
>tap two creatures
>white
The fuck?

>>45255832
Yeah, they sure are terrible for being mad about their product being stolen and their marketing strategy being undermined.

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>>45260164
http://magiccards.info/query?q=o%3A%22tap+target%22+c%21w&s=cname&v=card&p=4

Don't be dumb.

>>45260164

You are right, to be white it should be:
Tap two target attacking creatures creatures if they are power less than 1

>>45260230
They're terrible for other reasons.

>>45259895
That seems way too powerful.

Get Rekt
Rare
5B
Instant
Madness 4B
Choose one:
-Target creature gets -1/-1 until end of turn
-Remove 1 loyalty counter from target planeswalker
>$35.00 and sold out on SCG

>>45260230

Fuck off Mark

>>45260261
If you do, target opponent may put a land from their hand onto the battlefield tapped.

>>45260230
>Mad rootwala
1g
2g: mad rootwala get +2/+2 until eot use only once
Madness g

Search your heart you know it will happen

>>45260308

If your opponent puts an Island into play this way, you lose the game.

>>45260310
If that thing is a 2/2, that's a pretty good card.

Strictly better than the original rootwalla.

>>45260337
likely a 0/1

So 15 cards spoiled. If leaker opened a pack, vamps don't seem to be as common as I'd like...

>>45259644
They seriously have no fucking clue what is going on in their company.

>>45260310
All I want is red discard outlet without "random"

>>45260337
>strictly better
>costs 2G to activate instead of 1G

don't use words you don't understand

>>45261162
I didn't look up the card, I thought he was a 1G with 2G to activate, not a 2G with 1G to activate.

>>45261117
Faithless Looting reprint PLS WIZARDSSSS

>>45261375
That's darkthicket wolf, close

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>>45255621

I'm pretty disappointed in the lack of lovecraftian horror.
Like Maro keeps saying, if it's not in common its not your theme.

Though I'm fucking pumped over Madness coming back, and the clue tokens are so fucking stupid but it sounds fun as hell.

>>45255621
So...what are the legendary werewolves?

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>>45262047

>>45262000
My guess would be a mystery focused first block, a lot of weird unexplained shit going on, investigation, kind like a game of eldrich horror. Then comes the second block, Emrakul makes his appearance and the entire plane goes to shit until the avengers get over their differences and save the day.

>>45262000
Well, from what we've seen in this pack, it isn't quite Eldrazi fucked. Just business as usual in Innistrad.

>>45262112
Damn. No gold flipcards. No legendary flipcards, based on the names. I like that we got more artifact flip cards, but eh. Nothing crazy. Skin invasion looks like an enchantment flip card, so that might be cool.

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>>45262144

But that just highlights the problem of their current 2-block format, they need three blocks to actually do what you're describing.

>1. Establishing shit is fucked up, wonder why?
>2. Escalation, oh no Horror themed Eldrazi!
>3. Resolution, thanks Jace, for saving the day once more, we truly are the Oath of the Gatewatch.

With only two blocks they'll need to do the reveal and the resolution in the same set, which kind of downplays the threat of Emrakul by a lot.

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>tfw new artifact block never ever
Nobody asked for new werewolves.

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>yfw people say "i'll not look at the leaks because is unfair"

>>45262410
Everyone who plays EDH asked for new werewolves.

>>45262470
I find it somewhat unbelievable that any EDH communities were calling for more werewolves.

I find it more plausible that marketing was calling for more werewolves because zombies, vampires, and werewolves sells fucking packs. They followed up the monsters with sweet angels and it was like they developed the most enticing block ever.

I thought the turnout for Innistrad and Dark Ascension was enormous. Avacyn Restored, a complete dogshit set and Limited format had even MORE people show up.

It's shit

>>45259895
They're reprinting fiery temper, so we're guaranteed at least one good madness card

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Fucking told you so, faggots.

>>45261576
no chance. We'll get a "fixed" faithless looting with discard first, though.

>>45255621
>madness is back
I'm surprised wizards is okay with a bullshit mechanic. I might invest in the set if madness decks are possible.

>>45262611
I know two people who are both planning on making werewolf commanders. As it stands, there are no legendary werewolves.

>>45262690
...? You said Nahiri would be pissed? Or that Demolish wasn't going to be reprinted? Or that exile is moving more into red?

>>45262611
We did want more werewolves. Because we basically want every tribe to have enough cards to make 100 card piles from.

They do sell like hotcakes though, I'll give you that. I love the Monster Mash feel of Innistrad.

>>45262229
Kessig Forgemaster and Hermit of the Natterknolls could be legendary. Though I'd imagine we won't get any legendary flip cards for the same reason we didn't last time around; it'd be possible to have two of them out at the same time due to how the legend rule works.

>>45262709
Flashback's not back though.

Honestly, if it was, I'd be so down even with discard first.

I'm now a bit worried. Flashback is such a good mechanic, it can carry a whole set. Without it, Innistrad will likely piss everyone off the way BfZ did by not "feeling" like Innistrad.

>>45262749
Exiling artifacts and lands has been red for a long time.

>>45262779
We had Elbrus the Binding Blade/Withengar Unbound in Dark Ascension

>>45255621
I don't think anyone has begun to grasp how huge is this new Investigate mechanic in the eternal formats.

Artifact tokens that can be cracked as on-the-go cantrips and don't actually cause the cards that generate them to cost any more than what their non-investigate parallels would? That's just what affinity needs to be even more broken, not only does it get some aditional draw, but also things like Cranial Plating are going to be much, much more dangerous.

Also maybe we'll see a new Metalcraft deck?, Who knows, everything is possible.

>>45262690
>Nahiri on her rag
>Full PMS mode

Blood Moon reprint confirmed?

>>45262796
They could bring back flashback for the second set. personally, I'm too excited that they brought back madness to care about no flashback. Especially since Rosewater has said repeatedly that they were unlikely to ever bring it back because it was too complicated. Lying cunt.

I fully expect we'll get a "we wanted to bring back flashback, but it proved too strong with eldrazi processors" or some shit, though. Because god forbid mechanics synergize well with those from other blocks.

>>45262892
Fucking Blues Clues control already brewing in me head, brahj.

>>45262749
I told you the old hag is evil. Bitch was probably mad pissed at Sorin for daring to get his lying, life-destroying vampire ass over her and love a woman with some actual redeeming qualities instead so she decided to pull an Elliot Rodger on him and his plane.

>>45262913
more like "Corrupted Moon 3RR: nobasic lands tap for <>"

>>45262948
>Joke
>Street level
>Sea Level
>Death Valley
>Your Ass
>Your Head

>>45262913
Nah, it's Nahiri's time of the month, not Tamiyo's.

>>45263022
For once, chandere, you were funny. Good for you.

Sorin will never be momoblack again though. Sorry.

>>45262000
Honestly, I'd prefer some religious horror. A set with some really twisted, horrific angels like they are described in the Old Testament and that also really represented how malign and teisting the devils influence is supposed to be. I could really use some not!christian symbolism thrown in with a little baroque.

Much better than yet another iteration of "Icky tentacles from Beyond"

>Nahiri/Tamyo tag team to cockblock Sorin
I'd actually buy that

>>45262940
>Control
I thought everybody knew Control was dead after this Pro Tour.

Its all aggro now, son.

>>45263167
>>Nahiri/Tamyo tag team Sorin
ftfy

>>45262655
oh

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>>45263081

Good lovecraftian horror is about insanity and body horror, you should preferably never see the cause and you should definitely never understand it.

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>Delirium

Where were YOU when neogoyf invaded Innistrad?

>>45263081
>D.Gray in my Magic
I would forgive Wizards for fucking EVERYTHING. Holy shit.

>>45263167

Did Sorin reject Nahiri so bad she became a lesbian and now fucks Tamiyo and hates all men?

Is there some kind of mexican telenovela going on or what

>>45262892
You know what will be even bigger though? Delirium.

Dredge/Reanimator decks are gonna get all up on that mechanic, its all they could have ever dreamed of.

It literally is "Goyf: The Mechanic"

>>45263300
Nu-goyf 1G
Delirium- this creature gets +3/+3 as long as there are four or more card types among cards in your graveyard.
1/2

>>45263387
Don't forget MYTHIC

>>45256359

I kek'd thanks

>>45263414
Well of course

I can't wait to cast good old fashioned Prey Upon in limited.

>>45263267
But that's very similar to religious horror, just think of all those exorcism movies, just how sinister and patent is evil wherever the influence of the Devil reaches, it oozes, it gushes, it completely impregnates the air like an stagnant, ancient curse that makes the human mind delirious, unable to understand what is happening, much less explain why.

You only know that terrible dark forces are at play, and you fear. Fear for your life, for your soul, because you know nothing can save you.

>>45263301
I don't know much about D. Gray Man, but I've been considering getting into it for a long time now. Maybe the right time has come.

How is it?

>>45262234
Unless Emrakul actually wrecks their shit, which makes sense as the other two Eldrazi were already killed off but I don't think Creative wants to wipe them all out for good just yet.

>>45262944
I haven't read the fluff in a really long time. Does Sorin actually give a shit about any women?

As far as I know, fanart only shows him fucking Jace.

>>45262920
Well, an 8 isn't impossible. "Unlikely but possible if it is exactly what we need" and well, Innistrad can pull that off. I just wish I understood all the rules behind it. Apparently, it hits exile briefly at some point? I thought it went hand to stack directly, but fuck knows.

>>45263081
I doubt it. Avacyn and her devotees are pretty clearly as genuinely GOOD as it gets (despite being made by a vampire). Making it "grey" wouldn't really fit the MO, I would think.

>>45263649
Well, Old Testament angels also were unambiguously good, they were just really pant-shittingly monstrous.

There was a very good reason why the phrase "Fear not!" was a thing in the bible.

>>45263714
True. I dunno. Angels are one of the most popular tribes in the game so I don't think Blizz has the balls to fuck with its aesthetic in such a way.

Maybe if they include Archons they could do it, but otherwise I doubt it.

>>45263649
It works the same way it's always worked. If you would discard a card with madness, instead you exile it, then chose to either cast it for it's madness cost or put it into your graveyard. It can't go directly to the stack, because you have to actually cast it before it can get there. Otherwise you wouldn't have to pay the madness cost at all.

>>45263643

Lovecraft and religious horror can be very similar but the key difference is that religion is a somewhat known component and the horror is something we should have known but decided to turn away from, lovecraftian horror is something much more alien, something we can't understand that just creates horror with no perceptible reason or motivation.

>>45263643
do it faggot

>>45263784
Archons are just dudes sitting on flying animals though, and I think they aren't even a thing on Innistrad.

But there's Zombie Horrors (of which this set has at least 1) and Demon Horrors, so what's stopping them from making Angel Horrors?

Even something relatively tame like pic in >>45262000 could work.

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>>45256255

Just build an old school stompy-like deck with this card, elves, and this card.

>>45256255
There's no way. There's some crazy good werewolves even if they never flip. Huntermaster, that attacking creatures +1/+1, Mayor, that fight guy, etc.

>>45263886
They aren't a thing in innistrad, but if you want things to be shaken up, adding a new tribe would do it.

I dunno. The thing that is stopping them from making Angel Horrors is that people don't want that usually. I know White Phyrexia is popular here on /tg/, but I remember the reactions on the gatherer and places was "WHAT? How the fuck is a WHITE card making HORROR tokens? Have they lost their mind?"

>>45263797
Yeah, but with the Eldrazi it'd be just another set of space calamari.

Don't misunderstand me, I like tentacles as much as the next guy, but the Eldrazi are a far call from what traditional Lovecraftian horror is supposed to be. Sure, they do the desolation, alienness and power beyond comprehension parts very well, but they fall flat o the more subtle parts of the genre that make it stand out from other monster attack horror genres.

>>45264006
See, thing is that the fact that white has already made similar things serves as a precedent for hypothetical Angel Horrors, since we already know just how twisted things can get even in white. Plus, white Phyrexians had a very good reception even outside /tg/ after all was said and done.

Plus, I think it was a point that no tribes were inherently good or evil, just like colors. These Angel Horrors would be just as good and lawful as the other angels, making them fall in alignment with white in the minds of consumers.

Plus, it would be really on theme with all the "twisted/reverse Avacyn's sign" shtick.

>>45264359
True. I'm up for whatever, I just don't want to get my hopes up.

>>45263905
We need tools like this printed in Standard and Modern. Something that breathes a bit of life back into control.

>>45264454
Fuck off.

>>45264454

Control should stay dead and fucking buried like your dreams

>>45264431
Well, so far I'm loving most of what I've seen, so I'm kind of excited. Sure, it's soon to get your hopes up but after Oath i have some faith in Wizards delivering a nice Standard experience.

And completely fucking over Modern in the process.

Good thing I'm a standard only player.

>>45264578
But I don't even play control or even Modern, I actually play mostly aggro. I just find a metagame being 100% aggro boring and stale.

What state is gonna get the kneejerk reaction the worst this time?
Will it be Florida again?

>>45264533
>>45264578
>1:02 minute post time difference
I'm calling Samefag.

>>45264454

Go play legacy if you want to masturbate over control.

>>45262144
>Emrakul
>Not Bolas or Tibalt, the Madness bringers

>>45264593
People need to realize that when the Modern economy becomes unstable, the entire Magic economy becomes unstable.

Eternal format staples are mostly a safe investment since most of them are on a reserved list.

However, Modern is just too unpredictable. The bannings of Summer Bloom and Splinter Twin completely obliterated the Modern archetypes. The top 8 of Modern PTOGW was 6 Eldrazi:2 Affinity.

If Modern becomes even more unstable, panic selloffs can happen that collapse Standard staple values, since Standard players only make up a fraction of MTG demographics, while Modern players make up the majority.

OR, panic buyouts can happen, hyperinflating the prices of popular cards so they become utterly unattainable to the average player (Star of David Games: The Format).

If Eye of Ugin or Tron lands get banned, you can say goodbye to your $10 Eldrazi Mimics and $30 Ulamogs. Then the meta will become something else that will warrant more bans.

Here's to hoping that SoI is the block that saves Modern.

>>45262410
New Artifact block? You mean like New Phyrexia?

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>>45264694
It's always Florida.

Florida is... special.

>>45264977
Yeah. It's never too soon for a new one.

Bit early to be returning to innistrad surely?

>>45265068

After this we're going back to Ravnica

>>45265068
That's what I thought too. Not only that but it's a second return block in a row, and now it's all but confirmed to have the superfriends again because Jace is on the packaging.

I don't want another avengers story.

>>45265007
So who's the Florida Man of Magic?

>>45265085
Nah, after this is Theros 2: Heroic Boogaloo

>>45265085
After this, Ravnica becomes the official plane of Magic: The Gathering and every set from here on out is at least partially set on Ravnica.

>>45265085
return to return to ravnica, return of the phyrexians

>>45265130
>who's the Florida Man of Magic?
MaRo, obviously

>>45264593
I'm in the Modern thread despite not playing to format to try to gauge reactions. I don't know how this sort of thing could've happened.

What's Standard like nowadays? I'm glad someone is happy with the state of MTG besides us EDH and Limited people.

>>45264974
I really can't imagine Modern being the majority of MTG demographics compared to Standard. Modern doesn't even fire off at my LGS. I don't know. I thought Wizards said Standard is the most popular format since new players basically only play Standard if they play tournament magic.

>>45265068
I really hope that it is because they want to finish a story arc and then we'll get two new settings in a row.

>>45265135
And Ravnicanon popped a raging pretentious-richfag boner so intense it shattered the fabric of space-time, and Lore/Waifufag General was never the same again.

>>45265130
Sheldon is from Tampa, so..

>>45265171
Standard is the format that is represented in majority by active players, but Modern is the format that is represented in majority by the investors.

>>45265198
Nobody was talking o you.

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>>45265085
lol

Back in my day all Magic happened in one plane and we couldn't complain because we had Gerrard's cock so far down our throats it reached our stomachs

>inb4 that smut writefag was right and Avacyn is corrupted by Em.

>>45265171
Standard is an unplayable mess composed of a terrifyingly high amount of Abzan midrange, meme rhinoserooos, 4 color goodstuffs, GR Eldrazi Ramp, Delvers and Atarka Red. But that's just because of how dominating Khans and Fate Reforged are in the format. You can kiss goodbye to all that stuff soon enough and then a lot of new shit will pop up, which is always a recipe for fun and diversity.

I'm simmering with anticipation.

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>>45265284

>>45265284
Gerrard was better than Jace though.

>>45265411
Hand over the smut and no one gets hurt.

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>>45265486
Right now I'm basically deciding what formats to play because I don't have enough MTG in my life and I have a bit of extra cash now.

But none of the constructed tournament formats seem fun, really. I'll look more into Standard after Innistrad, for sure.

>>45265526
Jace may have singlehandedly fixed Ravnica (somehow...?), but at least for Oath he has to be Gideon's bitchboy.

>>45265284
Yeah. I guess I can't complain about returning planes when Dominaria was basically Earth 2.0 in terms of strangeness.

But back when in I read the M2012 booklet and it told me about the universe and worlds made entirely out of metal, I imagined something very different from what planes ended up being.

I still hope they make some real weird planes soon.

>>45265526
Hope you like tentacles and bdsm
http://pastebin.com/yjA9G5Lk

>>45265689

Only when the victim is a boy

NIGGERS
IN
MY
INNISTRAAADDDDDDDDD

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>>45265779

Oh no, say it ain't so.

>>45265668
>for Oath he has to be Gideon's bitchboy
Nah, he's just the nerdy science guy of the team, while gideon is the charismatic party face.

>>45265820
Wait, is that a lightskin nig or a basic white bitch with a horrible fake tan?

>>45265849
Man, fucking look at her, what do you think?

>>45265849
It's a black nig with a spot on his face, look at the hands

>>45265668
If you wanna do constructed, Standard is the way to go.

Most of my decks are stupid cheap (20 to 30 bucks), win consistently and can even be played for laughs & giggles in Modern.

The relatively low-powered meta makes it welcoming to beginners and doesn't make it as unviable to run your fun, janky brews. Plus, there's been some talk that a new constructed format might pop up exclusive to the cards utilizing the M15 frame onwards.

Personally I'm just going to keep playing Standard for a few years until I've got enough cards and decks to put something cool and unique together and jump unto a bigger format and see how it goes.

Also Gideon >>>>> Jace.

>>45266001
Jace mindfucked a High Arbiter so hard he forgot how to breathe.

Gideon lost to three inches of muddy water.

>>45265689
Sure do. With girls and traps.

>>45265147
We can only hope.

>>45266049
Jace was also tricked into releasing the Eldrazi. Plus, you can't hold that against Gid, Ob is just too much of a badass to handle.

>>45266131
Gideon also accidentally his entire phalanx.

>>45262000
>lack of lovecraftian horror

Spoken like someone who has no idea what they're talking about. Madness, Delirium, and Investigate are all completely Lovecraftian.

>>45262779
Well, look at the flipwalkers. The problem gets solved by just making the flip irreversible.

>>45266237
I watched that scene in Duels today because I downloaded it on my phone. Gideon looks like such a retard in it, it is incredible.

Tragic Arrogance indeed.

>>45266131
>Jace was also tricked into releasing the Eldrazi
a) you're thinking Nissa
b) it was less of a trickery and more of her being a dumb cunt

>>45265284
>one plane
You're just wrong.

>>45265849
I always thought it was a young white boy. Now I gotta cut this bitch from my bw cleric deck :/

>>45266344
Jace and Chandra were manipulated into releasing minor Eldrazi earlier on in the block storyline. IIRC it's what made it possible for Nissa to DO NOTHING WRONG and release the Titans.

>>45266272

Lovecraftian sounding words yes, but none of the cards we've seen so far has really represented the theme in their visual or conceptual design.

>>45266371
Racist much?

Since when do you judge cards for the color of the skin of the character depicted on them?

>>45266049
>>45266131
Gideon only lost because he was protecting Jace from getting killed by Nixilis.

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>>45255832

>mfw

I want to drink Maro's tears

>>45265820
OOGA BOOGA WHERE DA WHITE MANA AT

>>45258287
I'm assuming soi will be mostly about strange happenings on the plane due to some unknown force. The second set will then reveal the cause of these happenings to be none other than spaghetti man himself

>>45268724
Emrakul is female

>>45268748
>Giving gender or sex to gods

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>>45263330
artist pls?

>>45259895
Current year?

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Delirium variant of Wayward Angel?