Darkest Dungeon Tabletop

>>44966066
>this ruby of video games
HAHAAHHAAH

Old skool dungeon crawler with a stress/sanity mechanic. Perhaps with persistent dungeons to innovate a bit

>>44966066
Take the sanity mechanic from Call of Cthulhu style games, apply to an OSR clone

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>>44966374
That's stupid.

Take CoC's sanity and add it to RuneQuest 6. They're literally the same system and are completely compatable.

Even better weapon ranges means the combat is even more like Darkest Dungeon's mechanics.

>>44966374
This
I'm actually running a DD/Bloodborne themed campaign based on the LotFP system. Its a pretty great base as far as OSR goes thanks to a tight ruleset with lots of modding potential.

I do think it would be neat to homebrew a custom system though. Party formation mechanics and operating out of an upgradeable base would make for entertaining play and would stress co-operation over trying to do it all yourself.

Would the "all in a row" style of combat not translate well to the tabletop?

Hm, I wasn't thinking about actual RPG, I was thinking about something like Castle Ravenloft. more like direct translation of the game onto tabletop, 2D and all.

>>44966066
Agon used a similar position mechanic for combat

>>44966066
When it was first getting popular a lot of people said it was basically a Warhammer Fantasy video game. Maybe apply a sanity-type system to that?

>>44966066
4th edition Dungeons and Dragons.
I'm serious. Just refluff some mechanics.

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>>44968448
I feel like DD's combat is too fast for 4E though.

>>44968448
>Just refluff some mechanics.
Where would the sanity mechanics be?

>>44966066
Honestly OP, try Blades in the Dark. It has health and stress mechanics, and deals a lot with handling an organization that the PCs are a part of. So the gang would be replaced by the Estate, and the individual playbooks would be for adventurers. Also sans the death mechanics... you just die instead of becoming a ghost.

Damn, this sounds like an awesome game.

>>44968448
This >>44968496 is a valid comment. 4e would fit the combat style of DD in the literal sense but you would want to increase the damage done or decrease HP or whichever you prefer to counteract the slugfest it usually turns into.

>>44966066
Warhammer fantasy 2nd
Shadow of the demond lord

These two are darkest dungeon the game.

>>44967193
I've seen LotFP mentioned in every thread where this comes up. Been looking to get my fantasy fix and I've been D&D clean for upwards of 3 years.

Is LotFP fast paced and dangerous? Do you happen to have a PDF kind anon?

What is "Gipernymphomania" and how does is differ from regular nymphomania?

>>44969724
I've googled it and just show some russian site with the same image (I lie there are some of the plague doctor too).

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>>44966066
Fuck the fully released game.
All they did was.
Pro's:
>Finally releasing the final dungeon
>secret rooms.
>having some party members given items at the start of a quest like the houndmaster's dog treats.
Cons:
>Making the crusader heal nerfed to complete uselessness
>Complete unbalancing with the buffs and nerfs
>Game freezes whenever an achievement appears.
>skipping frames.

Now for the nerfs and buffs, what they should really be doing is taking and giving instead of what they are doing with the give CRAZY good buffs to members that people whine about eg JESTER, and Nerfs to members that they somehow still thing is broken eg Hellion (they fucking lowered her damage more.)

God Red Hook please test your shit out yourselves before sending out the general public it's insane what you're doing

>>44969860
How is any of that relevant?

>>44969911
Just letting out anger everytime I see a thread related to this game. Just ignore.

>>44969724
>>44969826
I think it's misspelled hyper (russians pronounce h as g).

>>44970018
That's certainly a explanation.

>>44969724
What is even going on in that picture?

>>44970123
We can see the campfire so the group is resting and they tied her down so don't get distracted from the quest.

Wasn't Darkest Dungeon directly inspired by Torchbearer? The themes are more or less the same, and any missing mechanics are easily hacked in.

>>44966066
>mfw almost every Vestial I've ever had in this game becomes a sexual deviant the first time they visit the brothel
>mfw the same is true for Plague Docs
Red Hook seems to think female healers are all repressed turbosluts, I guess. They must come here a lot.

>>44969555
LotFP is a really solid retroclone based around weird fantasy/horror. If you are after the PDF go check the /osrg/ trove. It has the rules and all the modules (which range from neat and inventive to absolutley awesome, if decidedly brutal).

Its very retroclone fare, but then again whats more brittle and scary to be than a 2e level one. I would also reccommend the 10 foot polemic house rules or some quick homebrewing to do away with HP bloat if you want a more viceral experience.

>>44969860
Just started playing the game (the final version), seems balanced to me.

>>44966066
>gameplay
Transferring vidya gameplay to tabletop is almost always a bad idea. There's like ten RNG rolls per turn of combat.

If you want roguelike dungeons just roll random monsters and loot. You could have the upgrade buildings work by having loot=XP like AD&D.

>style
Much more achievable, though the fact mechanics and theme are so well matched is what makes the game so good.

Honestly Fate would work pretty well for the flexibility of Aspects and Consequences for Quirks and physical and mental Stress for HP and DD-Stress. AND you would get the dynamic where players have a lot of Fate points and a dungeon will be a cakewalk, but longer ones drain their resources and the Boss has a ton of FP and then they're fucked.

>>44970742
>Just started playing the game (the final version), seems balanced to me.
Well, that could mean one of two things: either he was a giant bitch whose whole game plan relied on broken mechanics he was exploiting, or you're just a far superior gamer than he could ever hope to be.

Either way, he is a faggot.

It's a pretty damn fun game. Yes, the DEUS VULT party plan got nerfed to hell, but Plague Doktoren are actually useful now. Jester still a shit.

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>>44966066
Like this?

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>>44969860
>nerf Hellion
>again

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFffffffffffffffff

>>44970662
How would I find the /osrg/ trove?

>>44966066
>>44970301
Torchbearer was Darkest Dungeon since before there was a Darkest Dungeon.

>>44980388
>complaining about Hellion nerf
>not using Hellion image
why?

>>44970662
I have no clue how to decipher the OSR trove, I've found the rules and magic deluxe rules. Is this a good starting place?

>>44976196
That's a big skeleton.

>>44981877
...for you.

>>44981877
>>44982235
get out

>>44980633

Pretty much this. Torchbearer is great.

>>44969860
They nerf stuff to increase artificial difficulty.

>>44982319
Which is the only way they can increase difficulty as was proven time and again. This might be the only game to actually get worse as it was nearing completion.

>>44982950
>>44982319
git gud

>>44981827
The best place to start is probably the complete rules and magic book. Its much easier to understand than the independant books, although they are revised and have extra spells.

It does require some knowledge of retroclones as standard. Basic stuff like AC, AB ect.

>>44980409
Go to /osrg/, (The OSR general, its always up) and check for the link in the OP. Look for the LotFP section.

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>>44966066

1) Read this.
2) Read LotFP or B/X D&D.
3) Blend them together.
4) ???
5) Profit!

>>44966066
Lamentations of the Flame Princess.
No sanity mechanic, just a save vs magic when dealing with stress, insanity and stuff like that.

>>44967291
It was fine for Space Hulk.

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>>44966066
>How do we add multiplayer

Everyone is one member of the party....duh.

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>>44981735
I don't have one of a Hellion freaking out.

>>44968448
>>44968496
Use Strike! then. It's faster, and the combats are way more punishing too.

>>44986175
that's sorta bland. individual characters are too simple.

i was thinking two teams, but that'd just devolve into PvP

>>44966374
>>coc sanity rules are the gold standard of sanity mechanics

When will this meme die?

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>>44986299
And keeping that aspect of it simple allows for more thought to be put into expanding the rest of the 'system'.

Seriously, unless you're going to give every player a group and have them go on separate adventures to see who can rack up the most loot, its going to end up being 'Each player gets one member of the delving group'. dealwithit.gif

>>44986351
What if we do away with the roughly 4 members limit and have heavy emphasis on retainers?
Each PC is a main member of the delving party, but has a group of lackeys to manage.

There could be a balance between spending cash on yourself to become a bulwark of the team, buying lots of minions and meatshielding them, or building a small core of tough henchmen.

Expeditions could take days or weeks, and attriton could be a real focus

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>>44987380
It sounds viable but I have a gutcheck cringe/'Nam flashback reaction whenever I hear 'retainers'. The one experience I had with them was with a guy who had spent every bit of money in the group to buy a fiefdom's worth of retainers and he HAD to micro them.

He had spreadsheets.

It was horrible.

>>44967172
I would go for this too.

>>44966066
I'd rather use CoC to play the Ancestor and his retinue (caretaker, would-be hag, visiting necromancer, smuggler captain, brigand bombardier, etc.). Find eldritch relics, study forbidden arts, keep your own population and local authorities from overthrowing you, earn money by striking deals with the unnameable.

>>44988540
that would actually be a pretty good tabletop game, of abstract variety. random events each turn, yadda-yadda-yadda

>>44988540
>>44988777
Might even make an interesting multiplayer game. Have various 'project heads' be player characters with their own wants and desires and the GM plays the 'opposition', trying to get leverage their desires over that of the overall project.

Like some kind of project based diplomacy or something. Or like that card game Blam or Showdown where you've got a Sherrif dealing with a group of hidden dudes who may or may not want to kill him.

>>44987946
I doubt you would ever really have more than 5 or 6 proper retainers. Someone might go round and gather 10 villagers with pitchforks for maximum drown-them-in-blood tactics, but then they are just faceless mooks.

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>>44969860
I know your pain.

>watching 100+ hours of progress burn up in a week

>>44989908
>Trying to get all the achievements.
>Dismas (even with the +12% death's door resist trinket) dies to a random hit 50 hours in.

ABOUT TO BREAK.

>>44969979
Maybe don't intentionally shitpost

>>44966066
I did it in the GURPS and liked the result.

Shadows of Esteren seems like it could be easily adaptable. The rule set already has high lethality combat and a sanity system set in psuedo medieval/Renaissance-ish world setting full of dark unknown corners populated by horrific creatures.

>>44990021
The secret is to not ever use either of them on missions.

>>44990021
Its not even as bad as mine
>Level 4 Dismas, along with whole original team
>Everyone full HP, Stress below 20, full light, stacks of food
>Last fight, its a big worm and two little ones
>Kill little ones in first roud, hit big one, get it down to like 20HP
>It goes last, crits Dismas for 40 fucking 8
>Next round, it goes first, AOEs and deatblows him

Thanks RNG. Still a fun game though.

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>>44991222
Please elaborate

>>44966066
Does anyone have an image of the stress symbol that isn't obscured by characters? I need it for reasons.

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>>44994782

>>44995068

Thanks, chum. My reasons are sated.

>>44994782
Please explain

From what I've seen of the game, it seems like something that would've been free on ArmorGames or Newgrounds 5 years ago. Is it worth 20 bucks or should I wait for it to drop?

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>>44995452
He masturbates to symbols. It's his thing.

>>44995612
What

Do you masturbate thinking of the terrible things implied by the symbol or by the shape of the symbol itself?

>>44995612
Don't judge normalfag. You've never known pleasure until you've fucked a question mark.

wilyeyebrows.gif

>>44987946
>he had spreadsheets

Why do these sort of people play rpgs? wouldn't something like a sports team manager game or dwarf fortress be more satisfying to the inner autistic?

>>44995641
both

Torchbearer.
Darkest Dungeon is Torchbearer in game form, right down to stress and light mechanics and general tone.

Otherwise, Shadow of the Demon Lord has quirk and madness mechanics, and would probably be a better fit than any retroclone. Has the feel right, too.

>>44995715
You have not seen true autism until you witness the hardcore industrialists in EVE Online. Gelvon Goblin is their king, and he reigns from a throne of sperg and grr goons.

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>>44995068
I would punch a baby if someone had a transparent .gif of that

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>>44996891

The Ravenloft D&D campaign setting would be pretty good to run a tabletop RPG game in the world, or at least an RP-campaign like this game, and uses pretty much all the same themes. On top of being gothic-horror, it explores madness, horror and its deteriorating effects on adventurers.

It has the same dark feel of hopelessness and desperation. I wouldn't be overly surprised if it was a main source of inspiration behind this game?

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>>44995561
Oh brother, its miles above that. Don't let the illustrated style throw you off, it works really well with the feel of the game.

>>44996982
behind this game.* didn't mean to use the question mark

>>44995561
I get the Flash-game comparison. It does have that feel but is very developed and incredibly addictive. I would be blown away if a game as involved and complete as this was free

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>>44996931
Pick your baby, i'll go get my brass knuckles.

>>44966066
>gipernyphomania
what the fuck

>>44995561
20 bucks is a few lunches. I'd say it's worth it.

>>44997037
Please punch the little shit sitting just behind me on the flight to Seattle that Will. Not. Shut. The. Fuck. Up.

Thank christ real life doesn't use DD's Stress levels, I'd have died of a heart attack by now

>>44967483
Just saw this post. Disregard >>44996982 if you're OP. Still, people who aren't familiar with the Ravenloft campaign setting if you aren't already familiar. Its pretty great

>>44996891
>>44997037
please dump the rest

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>>44997250
The others are not as good, but sure.

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>>44997284

>>44996491
Could you explain that please?

Gipernymphomania is the pathological sexual fascination of a woman to be tied to a pillar with her tits out.

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>>44997332
Last one they have out.

>>44986230
The Hellion freaking out is more or less her becoming calm. She's so distressed that she's not.

>>44996891
I don't understand the end, the woman is dead, but the kid is still alive?

>>44997504
he got them both with one shot

>>44997451
Thanks, m8.
What's your favourite?

>>44997573
Gotcha, thanks senpai

>>44997284
I don't understand this one.

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>>44996891
>go around murdering innocent people
>accidentally murder woman and child as well
>boo hoo hoo

>>44997707
He's fighting his ass off to keep his comrade alive, only for a cannon shot to kill him and knock his ass out. When he wakes up, the battle, and possibly the war, is over.

>>44997707
Man At Arms is in a battle, his unit gets massacred and he's the only survivor.

>>44997736
>>44997750
Why the emphasis on the green flag? I must be retarded.

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>>44997714
>be a dick
>one day, be too much of a dick
>say, holy shit I'm a dick

its conceivable

>>44997770
the way back to friendly lines, safety, and medical attention

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>>44997577
of the comics? I gotta go with Dismas/Highwayman. His motivation and willingness to risk himself out of a need for repentance just rings truer than the "Selfless sacrifice" of the Leper (and I'll assume the vestial and crusader), and this "business as usual" nature of the rest.

>>44997714
Killing armed men in a robbery, while still horrible, is leagues different from accidentally shooting an innocent woman and child for no reason. Careful you don't cut yourself on your edge.

>>44998017
>armed men in a robbery, while still horrible, is leagues different from accidentally shooting an innocent woman and child for no reason. Careful you don't cut yourself on your edge.
>Viewing all deaths for greed as equally heinous is somehow edgy

>>44998017
No I mean characters ingame. But yes, Dismas is good. Dismas reminds me strongly of Mr Foster from killing floor. All in the pursuit of LOADSAMONAY
>>44998053
Well, sometimes a death is a means to an end, and other times a death is thoroughly unncessary.

>>44998017
I'm curious to see Reginald/Crusader's backstory, I wonder if there's a link with Dismas'.

>there will never be a comic about Reginald and Dismas meeting and going in adventures before going to the darkest dungeon

>>44998155
Excuse my sperg, but it's Reynauld.

>>44997417
Sure. EVE Online is known as spreadsheets in space. Most of the time this is a joke, but hardcore industrialists and traders really do use spreadsheets for everything. Gevlon is a famous trader who's made so much spacebux that he can fund a group to go and blow up ships belonging to the Goons and their allies. Of course, his chosen proxies are hilariously ineffectual, so mostly he just rants and raves about how awful the goons are and spergs out a bunch on his blog.

>>44998253
If I ever want to watch tens of thousands of real dollars go down the toilet in glorious explosions, I'll start playing EVE.

>>44966066
As long as you remove corpses, you could just use a modified WH40K system.

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>>44998089
Shit son, Lepers are frankly broken, at least in my games.

Followed by the Occultist.

>>44998155
Why not write something then?

>>44998053
I'm not gonna say it is edgy. Generally, the basis for the western/Christian paradigm of justified violence is that it can be viewed as just to use lethal force to disable a foe, even if that is likely to kill them. Your goal isn't to kill them, though it will most likely to do so.

That school of thought has a lot of holes and my favorite example is the Geneva Convention, in which purposefully using overkill (a tank gun to kill a lone insurgent when you could just shoot him) is a war crime but its okay to flatten whole city blocks so long as you think there's a legitimate military target like a weapons factory somewhere in them.

It may be semantics to some degree, but killing an armed target is VERY different than killing unarmed civilians.

>>44998089
>Well, sometimes a death is a means to an end.
>Nothing personal, kid, just business
And you're disparaging others for being edgy?

>>44998390
Sorry to have fucked up grammar while trying to portray a relatively complicated moral philosophy that I don't even adhere to.

>>44995612
Dude must have a really long tongue.

Praise Slaanesh.

>>44998384
I really like plague dr and vestal. They're groovy.
>>44998486
No, I'm not. I'm just making suggestions about the whys and wherefores of the Highwayman's ethics.

>>44966066
What the fuck is in the Darkest Dungeon anyway? I have been too scared to go in there.

>>44998486
He's actually correct, and differentiating ends vs means is not "edge." If your justification for murder is that it earns you fun bucks and dispatches someone who wouldn't let you take it, then committing a murder that didn't help you with that could still be a shock.

>>44998390
>purposefully using overkill (a tank gun to kill a lone insurgent when you could just shoot him) is a war crime

It's not a war crime. It'd only be a war crime if he were surrendering or rendered unable to continue fighting beforehand.

>>44996891
Christ dismas reloads fast.

>>44998560

Mantarok, and your destiny. Cruel as it may be.

>>44998697
>not having a brace of pistols
>not having at least eight pistols holstered on your belt
>not having a backup brace of pistols

>>44998787
Dismas clearly only has the one.

>>44998673
I'm just talking about the Geneva Convention's RAW, dude. I doubt anyone would be prosecuted for it, same with if you forced an officer and an enlisted man to have the same privileges in a POW camp.

>>44998560
Dazed, reeling, about to break.

>>44998903
Geneva Convention doesn't cover that, it's primarily concerned with civilians, POWs, the wounded, medical personnel, and who qualifies for protection under the Convention. Rules and conduct of war is the Hague Conventions, along with various other treaties, but even then shooting a guy with a tank round isn't against the rules of warfare - they make tank rounds specifically for shooting infantry - but it'd probably get you in trouble with command because a M1 Abrams has three machine guns and rounds for the main gun cost $10,000.

>>44998560
A nugatory crusade.

>>44998560
Remember those weird curvy corridors from early trailers that never made it into the game?
You can find them...
...in the Darkest Dungeon.

>>44970123

She hit 100 Stress and was afflicted with hypernymphomania. So obviously she wants to have sex with everything. At some point she ripped off her chestplate and the top of her robes. When they hit camp, they tied her up to avoid constant bone jumping.

Plus, you know, Syphilis

This picture actually inspired me to write something for it, though I am taking it in a slightly different direction. You know those fuckets with the goblets? One of those cheeky gits put hell aphrodisiac into his.

>>44981877
>>44982235

If I pull your skin off, will you die?

The Highwayman/Dismas's dialogue (when afflicted) heavily implies that he wasn't really concerned about killing them because they were a woman and child.

It's because they were his. Comments about him joining his sweetheart soon when depressed, etc. The kids hair is the same as his, too.

>>44996891
>>45004604
Given that he openly just fires on it with the intent to murder everyone inside (and that he murders everyone outside without even so much as saying a word of warning) and that the picture very much focuses on the child to show you his hairstyle... it's subtle, but combined with his own comments it's clear his real regret is kind of murdering his own family by accident rather than because when he blindfired into a carriage turns out there was a woman and child inside (SHOCKING). That last one is obvious, but he probably wasn't expecting the outcome he got.

>>45004646
>>45004604
Depressed Highwayman (upon taking the random action to deliberately mark himself): "Stand and deliver, fool! Send me to my love!"

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Daily reminder that history is an endless cycle.

>>45005734
Whats going on here?

>>45005818
Darkest Dungeon's ending.

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>>45005734
>tfw you realise what "Ruin has come to our family" really means
All along

>>45005961
>>45005734
Spoil me. I'm not going to finish it anyway. Too much grind for my tastes.

>>45005978
The character arranging all the missions kills themselves after knocking the thing beneath the manor out in order to be a spooky ghost and protect the world from the Darkest Dungeon forever.

>>45006120
...Is that it? I expected more eldritch abominations.

>>45006143
The main spoiler is that the planet is the eldritch abominations, and humans are its offsprings. Basically, everyone is shoggoth.

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>>45006262
That's incredibly lame.

>>45006262
Huh. Suppose that explains why people could do fucking magic.

>>45006314
He explained it pretty poorly desu
The way the game delivers it is stellar

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>>45006402
Well, could you explain it any better then? I watched the custscene and it didn't really make much sense either, even after that last fight.

>>45006470
Did you watch the whole mission? It made sense to me, no matter how meh I felt it was.

>>45006402
>stellar
You cheeky fuck

Dragon's Crown+Darkest Dungeon croosover
Y/N?

>>45007386
>N

>>45007386
>fanservise: the game + sickdark: the game
It's called Kingdom Death: Monster.

>>44996891
Doesn't anyone think that the child looks a LITTLE bit like Dismas himself? *hint hint nudge nudge*

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This game reminds me to Mignola art and Hellboy.

>>45009821
I can't see it; please elaborate

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>>44997470
>>44986230
>>44981735

>>44995452
Basically, the symbol is a beacon. Every time you see it in-game extreme end-game spoilers happen.

>>44997057
>>44997449
>Gipernymphomania is the pathological sexual fascination of a woman to be tied to a pillar with her tits out.

more like cyrillic spelling of "hyper", editor was either a ruski or trying to emulate one

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>>45009846
Those covers are a bad example.

It's mainly the heavy shadows on everything.

>>45010377
Ah, I see it now.

>>45003279
Wait, she's actually got syphilis?

Boner lost.

>>44997037
Is he Jerusalem?

>>44998017
I've seen one interpretation of it where it's his own family the highwayman killed

>>44966066

Just play some edgy OSR like "Lamentations of the Flame Princess".

Seriously, it's basically a whole reason for the existence of a system.

>>45008376
THIS
he probably was orphaned or something and saw a little of himself in the child

>>44969860
>go on first quest
>two dead characters
>okay time to recruit two more
>one guy is the aberration deformed
>the other is a crusader
>they won't go in the same party together
>can't recruit more heros this week
>can't pass the week cause I can't go on mission
>game stuck after 10 min
>uninstall
These indie shits never change, really.

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>>45010377
>Those covers are a bad example.

Well, none of them were actually Mignola.

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>The grind for heirlooms so you can do gear upgrades

>>44998053
it doesnt matter what I believe or what you believe.

The character (the highwayman) believes that killing men who can fight back and defend themselves is at least admissible.

but he believes that there are few to no circumstances that make it alright to kill women and children. so when he did, it really fucked him up because of his own beliefs. not yours or mine.

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>>45009913
You should be able to find a halo sprite sheet in the game files, but I've already cut that one for other purposes, previously.

>>44970301
>>44980633
>>44970301
>>44996218
Regarding the similarities between Torchbearer and Darkest Dungeon, Roll20 will be livestreaming a Torchbearer game on their twitch channel this wednesday, specifically to highlight similarities and differences.

The game will be GMed by Adam Koebel (Dungeon World co-creator, GM for Swan Song and Mirrorshades, massive Burning Wheel fanboy). I think he's alright, dunno what the rest of /tg/ thinks.

>>45013910
shit really?

>>45014016
Yes, really.
http://www.adam-koebel.com/schedule/2016/1/27/roll20-presents-torchbearer

>>44997451
i don't get this one. an order of presumably religious men know that he is an abomination, yet they don't even try to kill him. instead they just brand him after which they plan to let him go, otherwise why bother in the first place, and he murders them for it?

>>45014352
I think a text file somewhere said he was kept there for years, tortured.
Maybe they were experimenting on him? Or maybe it was their idea of some kind of redeption through suffering.

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>>45012436
Yeah i sorry, i posted the wrong image.

The urge to run this in Strike! is rising.