>Saudi Arabia’s grand mufti has ruled that chess is forbidden in Islam, saying it encourages gambling and is a waste of time.
A saudi religious nutjob? They can grow some pretty long arms on occasion.
Chess is haram, but raping infidels and killing homosexuals still Halal, truly Islam is a progressive religion of peace, I'm so glad we have Saudi Arabia defending himan rights for the UN.
>How far does his religious power stretch?
Saudi Arabia is largely responsible for 90% of the Islamic terrorism we've experienced in the past 20 years.
Yes, all of it. If he says it should be forbidden, you'll be damn sure Germany and England are going to start de facto banning it within the next 20 years.
>be grand mufti
>islam boy wants to play a game of chess
>never played but want to see him grow up believing in me
>no idea what I'm doing
>this 6 year old kid wipes the floor with me
>fucking waste of time, chess is stupid anyways I play for fun not competetive like him
> Chaplains forbid the playing of chess among Space Marines, since it promotes the heresy that black, which is clearly the heretical side, can actually win.
All of you are missing the point.
He doesn't think chess is bad. He thinks gambling is. He thinks that chess is a means towards gambling. In a world without gambling, he presumably wouldn't give a fuck about it. And furthermore, it's not going to be banned (despite how faggoty OP is being). It's just going to be frowned upon, basically. I mean it's up there with fucking music.
So yeah, it's retarded, but it's nowhere near as retarded as you faggots think it is.
And then other Muslims, because that's how trade and empires in general works.
Originally Indian, spread into Persia (which then became part of the Arabic empires) and became a staple. It then spread from said empires into southern Europe.
Chess probably originates from a game developed in eastern India. It was developed further in pre-Islamic Persia, then continued under Islam and spread to Europe through Moorish Spain.
>It is unlikely that Al-Sheikh’s ruling will be enforced, and more plausible that chess will be relegated to the status of other minor vices, such as music, which many in the clerical establishment frown upon. Moreover, since the ruling was in response to a specific question, it was probably meant as an advisory opinion rather than a formal edict.
Fucking read the article.
>tfw Donald Trump will destroy Islam in your lifetime
Nothing about that prevents some non-government Muslim extremists to get into their heads that they need to execute all chess players because they think old beardy there has a point.
I meant I wonder why it's always considered a vice or a sin.
It was in response to a specific question. Like "hey what do you think about Chess?".
Nothing prevents that.
Well, usually was considered wicked or only performed by those weak of spirit. Often lead to addction, that often caused harm to you, your family or your family's name. Too much people fell in disgrace over gambling since the invention of gambling. At least, that's what I think it is.
Maybe the devil's involved. Which often is. The devil apparently is omnious like God itself, if you believe everything about it.
I generally think the people on /pol/ are retards but even a blind chicken can find corn at times.
Those camel-fuckers are a big part of the things that are wrong in the world.
Deus vult when?!
2017 can't come soon enough.
Hopefully we're in time to save Germany, it would be a shame if all their breweries got Aloha Snackbar'd.
What people don't realize is that Osama Bin Laden attacked the Twin Towers after watching Mazes and Monsters, mistaking it for a documentary on the subject. Islamic Fundamentalism, like Christian Fundamentalism in the 80s and 90s, is, in fact, mostly about destroying traditional games, as they are known as the source of most heresy.
>That's not even a legal first move, you fucking moron.
No move is legal, now.
>Implying Trump isn't all talk.
Last Presidential Election he was in he talked about he was gonna steal all the money from the rich folk.
Dude will literally say ANYTHING to get attention. You can check his actual competence by how many businesses he ran into the ground with daddy's klan money (and grand-daddy's hooker money).
Trump would curl up into a ball of piss if he actually had to do something without being able to jump ship and ditch his responsibilities.
I kinda want to see a presidential assassination in my lifetime so I want to see the Americans vote Trump in. I really want to see what the textbooks will say about it twenty years later as well.
Best get used to it, the last Repub competition is Cruz, an unlikable cunt who people only support because they're afraid of Trump and everyone else has been beaten into the dirt.
The general election is already over. Hillary is about to be indicted on national security violations and Bernie is a crazy self-admitted Socialist who will get eviscerated outside of democratic primaries.
Get ready to be great again.
Do you actually think that if Trump won he wouldn't t have the best security in the world?
Also maybe not an assassination but both Clinton and Sanders are pretty old and failing, they might die in office
Now, Saudi Arabia and Iran are. Mostly because they are the US and USSR of the region, and by giving lunatics AK-47s and RPGs and telling them to fight the other side's lunatics armed similarly they get their proxy wars.
Okay I laughed pretty hard at that one.
Whats with all the triggered SJWs?
I may strongly disagree with you on a lot of things, but I'm glad that everyone realizes what an asshole Cruz is. I'm actually thinking Rubio might get the nomination; he's young, pretty, latino, and provides the establishment a nice alternative.
No, Trump has promised to conquer part of Iraq, the oil fields, and make it American soil.
Meaning SIGNIFICANTLY MORE American Muslims.
Also, Trump has no idea how to play Chess.
>Implying I live in America
Anyone with at least one brain cell can just go look at Trump's business record to see how irresponsible he is and how terrible at management. You guys thought Obama was bad, you ain't seen nothing yet.
I'll get my popcorn.
It's a very easy way to lose a lot of money - it's addictive and attractive to those in fairly bad financial situations.
When most people gamble, they lose money - the family has less food, families fall apart, and if the "house" side is also a part of the local community it builds resentment.
Overall, gambling isn't a good thing to have in the community, from an objective point of view.
Most religious rules are there to make a community strong, or to give rules that will ensure people die less - it's why they ban usury within the religion, or things like eating shellfish, for desert-based religions founded before refrigeration
Shame Jeb Bush's ship has sailed, he was probably the smarter brother. Maybe Rubio can pull it off.
Honestly the best we can hope is that Clinton gets elected... but basically becomes an empty shell figurehead for her husband and we get the 90s again.
There just isn't enough time for Rubio to make a comeback. Cruz is going to hang on to the #2 spot like a pitbull on the leg of an innocent child, and Guac-King Yeb seems to be in the race for no other reason than to backstab Marco as hard as he possibly can.
That's nice, but not what I was talking about. Go look at his business record. i.e. - Suck at business, lose money, sue people who point out how much I suck, attention whore, rinse, repeat.
You get one shot with the US economy.
His history is ruining half the things he's touched but abandoning ship successfully.
America run by Trump is the same as a business run by Trump. Just because he knows he can step down and blame his Cabinet when he causes an economic crisis doesn't mean we win.
Possibly. Remember, he sues anyone who tries to report on how much money he has. He also has the benefit of getting to bolster himself with book sales, and daddy's funds.
However, the point is, not so much how much his business practices earn HIM, but the fact that he sinks businesses faster than anyone. His business record is a scorched trail of collapsed projects and lost jobs. I'm sure Trump will make out like a bandit. Everyone else is fucked though.
>you're a retard if you distrust islam
>Honestly the best we can hope is that Clinton gets elected
Please no. I'll take Bernie before her, at least with him Congress and the courts will stonewall most of his communist insanity and we can get someone sane in another 4 years.
Hillary "four more Obama years" Clinton might actually succeed in sticking something from time to time.
Most Iranian "terrorism" is them backing insurgents who are targeting rival governments. In much the same way Russians, the US, and other countries back insurgent movements against regimes we don't like.
Most Saudi "terrorism" are wahabi-influenced religious/ideological extremists who want to replace existing institutions with their personal brand of Shariah, re-institute a Caliphate, and wage an ideological war on "the west".
I am moslem but I ain't arab. There is another guy who I meet up at miniature conventions but he is a convert.
I know some arab table top gamers but they aren't really pious types.
>Russia dirt poor but trying to be warlike again
>US going to explode because they can't elect a single person who isn't a raving shitcunt
Twenty-first century is shaping up a lot more interesting than I'd hoped.
By having a looney president who gives no fucks because he can cut and run, you lose the veto power holding back the lunacy that a united congress and senate can do.
Not to mention his promised complete reshuffling of the Supreme Court, and support of a complete rewrite of the US Constitution.
None of the Republicans except maybe Trump. The rest rely on the religious vote too much and we know how well the religious vote goes with /tg/. It's kind of a toss up between Trump, Hillary and Bernie.
Clinton makes a big stink about censoring vidya so she probably doesn't think too fondly of /tg/ either. Trump will call us nerds and come to our houses to personally give us all swirlies.
Sanders gives no fucks.
And to think all the US needed to do was allow extra parties to siphon off the insane ones. It's almost like having it be just two choices really increases the chance of getting a shitcunt...
>implying trump would actually do any of that
He says shit to get noticed. I imagine a trump presidency would not be like election trump. He is still a meme president but he blows out a lot of hot air
If "anyone who gives people in the Middle East weapons/funding to fight political enemies" makes you responsible for terrorism, then the US and Russia are even bigger actors in the Middle East than Saudi Arabia and Iran.
It isn't because more than two is banned, its because you have the best chance of raising funds if you stick to the big name where the big money is.
Libertarians do better with the Republican party than as a Libertarian party, hence no Libertarian party. Since votinv Americans see elections as having the best chance electing the least offensive person, a Libertarian will vote for the Libertarian-ish Republican over the full Libertarian of the Libertarian party out of fear a Democrat will get in.
>We have a whole slew of "special" parties to stick the socialist hippies and nutcases in so we can get on with a real election.
Still failed to stop 2015 man
Oh, I know its not banned. I was referring to what you pointed out - and that there are a lot of pointless rules that make it difficult for anyone aside from the big two from making any headway.
To be fair, I get the feeling that W was a lot smarter than he was acting. He played dumb so the media would run their articles focusing on him and all his policies rarely got attention so no one could react to them till it was way too late.
>then the US and Russia are even bigger actors in the Middle East than Saudi Arabia and Iran.
Yeah, but we can kick him out at any time, we don't have to wait the stupid four year blocks.
Hoping he legalizes weed before he goes, and the Conservatives find a less asshole leader.
Short answer: yes.
Long answer: not until 2070-90 or so when its noticeable.
This is true. Americans have realized this, but are stuck without alternative. Russia does it because the Americans are doing it, and fuck the guys causing everyone but Czar Putin to fuck up Russia.
it is not that easy.
besides, how do you expect me to live in a country where everyone hates me? everyone will consider me as a filthy parasite leeching on what little good left in this country.
Give Dubya some credit, he at least married a respectable woman and produced socially presentable daughters. In an dynastic family like that you can get away with just that much.
Jeb married a goblin and his daughter is a half-ogre chain-smoking bulldyke.
Then why did this thread just have a conversation that went like...
>Saudi Arabia is the source of 90% of terrorism in the mid east
>No, Saudi Arabia and Iran do
When the reality is that the US and Russia are bigger sources?
>I'm a useless shitcunt but my daddy was sorta important: The PM
I hate him so much. So much. Only good person in his cabinet Harjit Sajjan who calls him a fuckwit at every opportunity and is trying to prevent the impending doom to our airforce that fourty years of neglect have done to our navy.
This isn't a good point.
The more businesses you have the easier it gets to look at them objectively and realize when it's a lost cause, or even just not worth the effort to make work. At that level of wealth Bankruptcy isn't a last resort mistake, it's a tactical move - cashing out when the well runs dry, whereas a poor man with one business will run his life into the ground trying to convince himself and his costumers that there's still water.
Yeah, I'm hoping the conservatives can get it together. I mean, I don't like Trudeau, but Harper was starting to go full retard and a little mad with the power he had over his party and his defeat was pretty inevitable. He basically handed over that win.
Still, I try and stay optimistic - NDP got rekt, so that's a bright side.
>>This is true. Americans have realized this, but are stuck without alternative. Russia does it because the Americans are doing it, and fuck the guys causing everyone but Czar Putin to fuck up Russia.
Americans started doing it because Russians were doing it in the cold war, and Russians were doing it because England/France were doing it after WWI, and they were doing it because the Germans/Turks were doing it because imperialism/colonialism.
Canada might be your best bet.
Just remember four simple things:
1. No raping
2. Hockey is good, you like hockey, it's a necessary part of proper cultural assimilation. Just keep your hockey rioting level equal to your native Canadian peers, no beheadings plz.
3. NO. RAPING.
4. Don't live in a mudslime enclave shut off from the rest of Canada, that's how ISIS gets into your brain.
5. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO RAPING.
Yeah that election was a shitshow for everyone involved. Technically I think I'm registered NDP actually - if for the only reason they held a meeting in my usual bar and several drinks in offered me a t-shirt and some more drinks to sign a paper.
I voted for a local guy in the last election who didn't make it because literally everyone else was complete shit trying to mash together something out of the party lines.
I totally pity those Saudi arabian fools who want to stay there still.
>no beheadings plz.
>equal to native canadian's hockey rioting
I seriously doubt that you are from canada
Even if Canada doesn't legalize, British Columbia has all the good food, Asian girks, and legal pot with cheap gas and milk plus lots of microbrew beer just over the border in the US. Washington State, ftw.
This is genuinely terrifying. There was a study made by Islamic scholars in the Middle East maybe about a decade ago literally claiming that the region had been lacking in knowledge.
The professors literally claimed and factually proved that the region repressed the generation of new knowledge and spread knowledge that was factually false.
Fuck the first nations, they can't drive and steal trucks and get drunk and burn shit. Fuck them fuck them fuck them. Why didn't we finish the slow genocide program we started with the boarding schools?
As someone who lives in British Columbia that's a little bit... off. Good food is totally true. Asian girls is... TRUE, but the majority of Chinese and Indian girls are pretty meh. Only the top 10% are worth it (though in the summer Japanese tourist girls are amazing). Cheap gas is only in certain parts of the province. And we have lots of microbrew here.
Still, pretty good living here - the libtards are annoying, but not nearly to the level that people think they are, and you can easily ignore the worst. Shit is expensive, but there's ways to get around that too. And outside of the city things are very lovely.
>The prince of Saudi Arabia has banned Tau from the country, because the Q'uran teaches that "Tau players are all fags"
The problem with the Chinese ones is by the time the few make themselves look good, it's entered uncanny valley territory - but I think that's more modern fashion. Japanese and Koreans are great but a lot rarer. Why the hell did we have to bow to that racist Governor General in WWII and scare all the Japanese off?
Also, yes, none of them can drive. Do you live in BC too or is this a constant?
Hey, as long as Bill doesn't have a heart attack, he'll still be around. I know they work closely together so I'm hoping he'll keep a tight hand on her reins and stop her from doing anything stupid.
Illegal immigrants aren't a race.
People illegally violating our national borders are not a race.
Terrorists who have been confirmed to be using the refugee crisis to infiltrate western nations (hi Paris) via their current swiss-cheese security are also not a race.
Trump is an ivy-league billionaire collegiate with an IQ of 180. He knows perfectly well, and he has not suggested anything racist at all. In fact, he hasn't even proposed anything that Obama hasn't already done.
Al-Qurtubi (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: “This aayah indicates that it is haraam to play dice or chess, whether that involves gambling or not, because when Allaah forbade alcohol He explained the reason for that, which is ‘Shaytaan (Satan) wants only to excite enmity and hatred between you with intoxicants (alcoholic drinks) and gambling, and hinder you from the remembrance of Allaah and from As-Salaah (the prayer).’ So every kind of game in which a little leads to a lot and stirs up enmity and hatred between those who are devoted to it and prevents them from remembering Allaah and praying, is like drinking alcohol, which implies that it must be haraam like alcohol.” (al-Jaami’ li Ahkaam al-Qur’aan, 6/291).
Al-Qurtubi, if you don't know, is a classical Islamic Scholar who worked on an Exgesis of the Quran.
He was alive in the 11th Century. So yes, it has been generally considered Haram for a long time.
I take it your Muslim, by your little "What do you know of Islam?" comment. Maybe you should take 2 seconds and do a bit of fucking research about your own religion before you make yourself look like a dumbass again.
>during their term to look appealing to everyone
Obama was literally elected because people overlooked his total lack of credentials and experience because the color of his skin. And while I've enjoyed eight years of Bush in Blackface, let's not pretend that it hasn't galvanized a lot of people to the Right.
>So every kind of game in which a little leads to a lot and stirs up enmity and hatred between those who are devoted to it and prevents them from remembering Allaah and praying, is like drinking alcohol, which implies that it must be haraam like alcohol.
Guess /tg/ is 100% haraam then.
Funny, since I'm fairly certain there's at least 72 virgins on here.
It's got two modes, one's just chess (only the AI is retarded as fuck even on the hardest setting) and the other one is a blend between chess and the wargame.
If you can pirate it to see for yourself, otherwise I'd recommend a pass
>Receive factual statement
>Respond with cringeworthy memes
Explain how I am wrong, or get back to posting Bernie memes on facebook. Not that it matters, since the DNC has already effectively disqualified your shitty candidate with Superdelegates.
>Nominations aren't Democratic
watch your mouth faggot
Neat to hear there are things between Alberta and Ontario. How is Saskatchewan? I assume it's not as hick and boring as the Albertans say (I think they have a bit of an inferiority complex)
Saskatchewan is pretty exactly as boring as the Albertans say with the sole exception of Saskatoon and making fun of Regina's everything but especially their name.
We're better than fucking Manitoba though.
Would gives players hilarious freedom, but the campaign would ultimately be a contest between players with only one 'winning' and becoming the next campaign's DM
Probably just bland and miserable.
O-orc lives m-m-matter, you guys...
>al-Jaami’ li Ahkaam al-Qur’aan, 6/291
If you take a look at the aayah he is actually quoting from, it goes like this
> O you who have believed, indeed, intoxicants, gambling, [sacrificing on] stone alters [to other than Allah ], and divining arrows are but defilement from the work of Satan, so avoid it that you may be successful.
>Satan only wants to cause between you animosity and hatred through intoxicants and gambling and to avert you from the remembrance of Allah and from prayer. So will you not desist?
In no way does it mention games like chess are haram, it just says that the act of actualy gambling is haram. I disagree with his interpretiation, i feel that he is trying to use a slippery slope arugment and is trying to say that games like chess can lead to gambling, but this is not really true.
Though i wont lie, games like Csgo are showing that esports gambling is becoming a thing, playing games by itself is compeletely fine
I was going to write a huge ass post about the evolution of Trump over time and his constant flip-flops to appeal to "fringe" voters. I just get really charged up about politics ever since I attended a seminar by a bunch of politicians about how America was dying due to party polarization and it was the largest threat to our way of life. I'm not going to though because I have to leave.
I wasted like 3 minutes on it so I decided to waste at least a few seconds of your time by reading this. Polite sage.
> I think I'm registered NDP
> being registered for a party in Canada, a country that doesn't register party affiliations
> American pretending to be Canadian confirmed
Pro tip for pretending to be Canadian: We don't register people for parties, but they can join as members outside of the main electoral process. Party members get to vote for who to choose as the party leader and who put on the local ballot. Being a card-carrying member of a party almost always involves paying dues. Even the NDP charge a few bux annually, except to Newfies because those guys are poor enough as it is.
>I happen to be an expert on insane religious leaders.
What a shame that you forgot to mention how far Islam takes the ban on idolatry. It goes literally to the point where only girls are allowed to play with dolls, and only prior to menstruation, because anything else is fucking heresy. This is why it's such a big deal that Aisha played with dolls in the Qu'ran: this means that even by the standards of the time, Muhammad was a pedophile. Let me repeat that: he was a kiddy fiddler by the standards of people who married 12 year old girls.
Islam's conservative clerics aren't insane, they're very intelligent people rationally applying a fucked up ideology.
> being better than Manitoba
Manitoba is literally the place you drive through to get between Saskatchewan & Ontario.
I remember in high school taking mom's Camry up to 180 km/h on that one road because it was so empty and so flat you could literally just see the one other car fifty kilometres ahead of you, and that was it.
A five second google doesn't make you an expert on Islam. Al Shafi played chess but I am sure you are not interested in a theological debate. Here is a friendly tip next time you want to decide who is muslim and who is not: Go and fuck yourself
But... wait... wouldn't he have had to put in the ban on idolatry in the first place for us to be able to tell ages by if someone is playing with dolls? Or was the ban pre-Islamic too?
I think Aisha married Muhammad somewhere in the 620s, around which time Muhammad had been gathering followers for a few decades, and only a handful of years before he conquered Mecca. I think he'd be in a position to enforce his rules at that point.
Shahih Muslim Book 028, Number 5612
> Chapter 2: IT IS PROHIBITED TO PLAY CHESS
> Buraida reported on the authority of his father that Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) said: He who played chess is like one who dyed his hand with the flesh and blood of swine.
Anyways it's all rather moot. Unlike, say, Catholicism, Islam is a decentralized religion with thousands of minor theological disputes of this sort. It's actually meaningless to ask "Is X forbidden in Islam?" for the vast majority of things because there are tons of fatwas & hadiths both ways. Almost all you need to call yourself an Imam is a nice abaya to wear and a few gullible people to follow you.
I doubt that at this point their marriage is anything other than instrumental. Just look at how far being "the wife of" got Hillary in politics. Divorcing him would be political hamstringing.
It's not exactly edgy if a full fifth of the planet and rising holds to the ideology. By contrast there are like half as many Western secularists (and that number is falling) which means that technically, WE are the edgy minority, not them.
You can say that of any American politician though. Dick Cheney never got anything for spilling classified information about American spies.
If you got the money and the power you can get away with anything.
>Anyways it's all rather moot.
Not him, but not really. Unlike any (except some American retardo-Protestant sect) Christian sect, all sects of Islam consider the Qu'ran the literal word of God, dictated to Muhammad by Gabriel from the Eternal Qu'ran which exists alongside Allah. There is literally no doubt about anything in there.
You did not directly quote the Qu'ran, but you did quote a Hadith (from Sahih Muslim, which is qualified as Sahih ie. the highest quality and reliability of reliability in Islamic tellings of history) in which Muhammad, the messenger of Allah and his direct mouthpiece (if you ignore those pesky Satanic verses) said that it is forbidden to play chess.
Other than acknowledging that Muhammad is not the messenger of Allah, or that Satan played yet another one of his tricks and Muhammad was entirely unable to tell this (yet again), there is no reason for any pious Muslim to believe that it is allowed to play Chess. Either Muhammad is not the messenger of Allah (heresy), Satan inspired this verse (heresy) or the most reliable of all Hadith are not reliable (heresy). Decentralization or not, this is on par with a Christian saying Jesus didn't die on the cross.
He hasn't gone bankrupt once. Three businesses out of the hundreds that he owned went bankrupt. In one case, it was the same one twice. Trump himself has never filed a chapter 11 for himself, he just axed a few failing businesses. If you knew anything about business you would understand that this means nothing.
Please check your facts before repeating them.
There Hadith Bukhari goes against the Qoran in this case which would not be the first time. According to the Qoran a muslim cannot marry a person who is not mature enough to give consent and uphold a solemn legal contract. The other part that is required is mental and psychical maturity. I am not familiar with the english versions of the Qoran but it should be 4:6.
But I guess you just want to say all muslims are fucked up and idiots because it is fashionable.
>hadith not reliable heresy
Again, what makes you qualified to judge this? On what basis do you get to decide what is allowed for muslims and what is not, please tell me?
> Either Muhammad is not the messenger of Allah (heresy), Satan inspired this verse (heresy) or the most reliable of all Hadith are not reliable (heresy). Decentralization or not, this is on par with a Christian saying Jesus didn't die on the cross.
This is a completely ludicrous statement, if you came to the Islamic Republic of Iran and said something like this, you would get laughed at. Is it because they are not muslim according to your bullshit ass criteria? Hadiths can and have been proven unreliable, and chess playing chess is nowhere near clear cut as you want to make it to be.
>But I guess you just want to say all muslims are fucked up and idiots because it is fashionable.
I will never say this as a blanket statement about Muslims. I'll only make such blanket statements about Islam as an ideology and Muhammad wherever appropriate.
As for the contradiction between Bukhari and the Qu'ran, Surah 4 does nowhere dictate when someone is deemed mature enough for consenting to marriage. Considering Muhammad was bethroted to Aisha at age 6 and married at age 9, we can presume by the logic of the Islamic sources themselves that this age is 9.
Unless you want to doubt the validity of Sahih Al-Bhukari, of course, but then you either have to throw all the Hadith out of the window (and thus a lot, if not most, of the knowledge of Muhammad's life and actions) or cherrypick based on standards not used by Islam's most respected scholars.
Chess is not expressly prohibited but it does fall under the caveat that if one plays it (or any other game or pastime) to distraction to the point of neglecting one's prayers or other Islamic duties and requirements, then it is prohibited. If one plays it occasionally- and not in connection with other activities that are haraam (like gambling) then it is permitted.
>Again, what makes you qualified to judge this?
I'm not, that's why I don't judge this. It is Islamic tradition that designated the Hadith as the second most important source after the Qu'ran.
>Hadiths can and have been proven unreliable
Which is why I generally refer to those declared Sahih, or the highest order of reliability. The only way to get out of under that is Qu'ranistic Islam, and last time I checked Persia was Shia, which acknowledges the Hadith as authoritative.
Going by Qu'ranism... yeah, we have no evidence of how old Aisha was when she got married to Muhammad.
But you are saying that the hadith is more important the Qoran. I am sure it is the other way around. The Qoran specifically says that the persons getting married must be mentally and physically mature, most nine year olds do not meet this criteria. I am muslim and where I come from (bosnia) child marriage is seriously shunned upon, (except for maybe among the Roma).
I am lucky if I get fucking married before 30. Or at all.
As far as I remember, the only people predicting that are US Americans, who are known to derive sexual excitement from the idea of a race war, so they have been predicting one SOON since the fucking 19th century.
> this is on par with a Christian saying Jesus didn't die on the cross
No it isn't, because even though it's a Hadith, it's not a central tenet of faith like Jesus on the cross. Yes, strictly speaking Islam says that Hadith stuff is 100% true, but not every single Muslim behaves like that. Heck not even all Imams or all Islamic nations act like that. Sunni Turks drink alcohol for fuck's sakes. You sound like a filthy madrassa-taught extremist.
I remember a girl who got kidnapped by Christians in the United States and was raped for years.
Sorry if I came off too much of an ass, but I wanted to say that the Hadith is not always reliable and should not be interpreterad word for word. In this case, since chess is not mentioned in the Quran but the only harm it can do is make people neglect islamic duties, then the sensible choice would obviously be not to ban it.
Pic related from chess tournament in Iran.
I've been looking at /pol/ articles in another tab and had an orky thread in another.
I got confused why pol became a blueboard all of a sudden.
They were nice, but Bill Clinton was not the reason it was so.
Also just being the wife of a great person does not make you a great person.
Hulk Hogan had a hard life.
>there's a 50% chance that any given thread will devolve into shitposting about american politics
>if one of /pol/'s trigger words is mentioned, the chance rises to 95%
I'm getting so tired of this.
But I'm sure he's just some racist Alex Jones wannabe. Everything will be fine.
>we still get a load of mostly unreported stabbings/murders/horriblebeatingtodeaths of muslims
Well, considering all the unreported rapes of white girls we at least know the British police isn't racist. They're just horribly incompetent.
> ends with check mate
> check mate is a bastardized veesion of Persian :"Shah mat", the (persian) king is dead
> arabs literally shah mat the persians
> outlaw the game afterwarda
Fucking bad losers.
The word you're looking for is "Leftist." They ignore crimes when they disagree with the political narrative they are being forced to support.
It's okay. What are a thousand children compared to an MP's smug sense of self-righteousness?
To be fair, the entire world is furry for lions. Just in Europe there are six countries that have the lion as a national animal. And four of those hang around in the same corner.
>if we don't isolate ourselves, all eight billion people will become exactly the same
I love this /pol/ argument, because it isn't easily picked apart, and by the time you do so, there's too much text to easily absorb. Whoever came up with it was at the top of their game.
Super this. In the rest of the world, if you're a minority and you have a problem, you shut up or swing from a tree.
Western civilization disagrees, which is why there will be no Western civilization in a hundred years. Personally I don't mind. Everything of value in the West died in the last few decades, what we've got now is an empty, Godless husk of cowards, lazy weaklings and crybabies. They deserve to be raped out of existence--and they've obliged by arranging it themselves.
Hopefully the Muslims will put the shithole in order. Roll back the clock a bit. Behead some people.
No. Less than anything in the world. The sort of people who want one-world governments are the sort of people who can't count.
So we'll just let Islam steamroll through the world and submit us all to Allah, instead of doing what it is humans do best and breed into the ranks and take over from within.
That's why humanity is the survivor in fantasy, they breed themselves into other races, and then can breed the other race out. Breeding the elf out of the half elf. Breed the brown out.
>implying a secular world government wouldn't benefit humanity
>implying a unified, borderless earth won't usher in an age of prosperity where all resources are geared towards the betterment of a vast population
>implying nationalism, traditionalism and patriotism don't stifle true progress
>implying what we call progress today is in any way progress, it isn't
You don't see the biggest picture of all, anon.
>Saint Louis will never, ever, reincarnate and lead Europe out of the valley of multicultural degeneracy and into a new golden age
>implying nationalism, traditionalism and patriotism don't stifle true progress
Yeah, remember how scientifically backwards Europe was for the past four centuries? And how it suddenly became a scientific superpower after it had abandoned its roots?
Oh wait, of course you don't. Fucking nobody with any historical knowledge does. Nationalistic and patriotic Europeans were the fucking engines of progress, and they didn't need immigrants with half their IQs for this.
>B-but progress isn't progress
Yes yes, backwardsness is progress, fear is freedom, weakness is strength, our emperor is a pig, yada yada yada.
Nah, it has much more to do with the corporate metrics-driven culture that infuses much of modern law enforcement and encourages pushing crime under the carpet whenever possible so you can show growth in law and order, even when it's not real. It's a problem common across ideological lines.
As a Canadian, I feel like since Trump is going to run you guys into the ground you're all going to take us down with you and I hate you for that.
Fellow Canadians, are you ready for a revolution for when North America collapses? We must band together to keep Canada alive and to reap bloody vengeance on the man who destroyed the world with his irresponsible corporate-loving incompetence.
Nah mate, you're far more fucked than the yanks are at the moment.
> Hating on PM going to a Pakistani mosque after winning
Where the fuck else is he going to get delicious chicken biryani takeout? He needs to learn where to buy that shit and imam's got the hook-up, yo.
Technological progress is faster when there is war, because each belligerant want to have an edge over the other.
Economic growth, on a country-wide scale, goes the best with a centralized and autocratic government, providing economic growth is what they're looking for (and in our era it should be) and are mildly competent.
There are exceptions, but that's something you can see througout all of human history.