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Tell me about your zombies, /jc/! Surely you've got at least a few in your forces!
Or maybe you are the zombie, John.
Well, they fall into two categories.
The first, well-imagine an army of tall, tapering tentacle monsters with a mesh of tentacles on their top and bottom ends, scuttling towards you like some sort of abominable spider. As they walk closer you notice unclaimed souls swinging gently from their branches like ripe fruit, the discolouration of their iron-hard exteriors, the shimmering of necromantic Soulfire girding their advance and the rapid decomposition of everything in their path, as their roots are being used as necromantic focii to hyperoptimise and reallocate entropy, imposing the natural process of decomposition on their surroundings, paradoxically growing stronger and larger from the necromantic energy released through rotting the world around them. And then they get close enough that you realise they're actually zombie trees, by which point you really should've been keeping an eye out for the phantasmal leaves and grass ghosts drifting ahead of them as a scouting/assassination party.
The second sort are physically indistinguishable from live humans, because they are in fact biologically alive humans. We took the Vita-Chamber tech from Bioshock and used HYDRA Blueprints to jerryrig principles from the Medi-Gun, Minecraft matter-energy transference, Pokeball digitisation technology, Lord of Light karmic atman-transmiters enhanced through our Aspect of Stasis and Mantic energy to perfect what we like to call the Lazarus Protocol: A wholly scientific means of bringing the dead back to the bloom of life.
Also it seems the sub species of orge get bigger.
Oh, did you want best girl posted? Here you go.
>False Clones (600 points): You are able to make up to seven identical clones of yourself. When defeated, they will disappear in a cloud of smoke. They are completely loyal to you, but can function on their own. They aren't very durable, and any kind of non-physical attack will cause them to disintegrate.
This is the Villain Capstone in Super Mario. Does anyone know who it's based on, and how exhausting it is to make these copies?
Bowser, ofcourse? It's the bosses at every castle, except the eigth one, where you actually defeat him for real.
No clue how fatigueing it'd be. Propably not all that, since fatigue isn't mentioned?
I somehow came out of Nechronica with twenty necro schoolgirls and three 'sisters' who spent at least as much time getting sewed back together as fighting.
Alice M. (Holic/Gothic)
Mary S. (Alice/Stacey)
Ingrid Von X (Court/Requiem)
Over the course of the next five jumps they got imported to have living bodies again, because while there are some ok aspects about being already dead, having to literally sew yourself back together isn't a great experience.
Unsurprisingly I ended up more machine than necrololi, twisted and evil. But the eye laser was a fun ace in the sleeve in fights, and the guide to necromancy gave me a significant leg up on the other necromancers in the Dresden jump.
My brethren of African descent.
Current run I only do the occasional zombie, so far I only have Van Hellsing necromancy and mostly use it for creating ghosts to serve as my eyes. Do make the occasional thing of animal zombies but they're generally more trouble than they're worth when I can just have Jormangandr turn things into Mind Worms under its control.
Have immunity to ordinary resets. Then, you have a whole lot of time to get them to move on. You could use the "Every time you reset, they just suffer more" argument, or a good old"Aren't you bored?" thing. Sooner or later, they'll leave.
I don't think they HAVE souls in the setting. Try Supernatural's Cure. If you write them as having souls, go to Tales of Symphonia.
He is working on Swords and Sorcery right now. Please wait warmly until it's ready.
We used new bodies too. Specifically, the cloning/consciousness transfer technology from Lord of Light (Chosen of Death, although the Karma Machine would accomplish the task in a more direct way) to ensure their new, biologically alive bodies would bear at least some superficial similarities with the old ones.
Theoretically the Vita Chamber tech we mentioned earlier would work too, with a little adaptation. Alternatively you could use Puppet Maker from Kara no Kyoukai (or the relevant thaumaturgical focus from Fate), Chim Synthesis and Infinite Alchemy from Atelier Arland or Doctor of Miracles from Touhou if you want to just improve their Doll bodies to the point of being indistinguishable from a healthy human.
I think the writing up of the Sword and Sorcery scenarios is currently taking precedence before the Worm update.
True. I dont really know the setting too well all I ever hear is that its a bunch of girls necromantically forced into undead robot bodies.
Couldnt afford the cure unfortunately. Would lucies healing potion from narnia work?
Welp thanks anyway, maybe I can fix this world with liberal applications of science and song tower work. I wonder if building a blank ai to grow inside a persons psychw until it is part of them would count as a form of psuedo soul. Probably not. Plus its touching pretty close to megalomaniacal evil.
Taylor's mom never dies, meaning her best friend never turns into a complete bitch and starts bullying her, meaning she never triggers and gets powers, which means
2 years later Panacea can't jailbreak her power so she can stop Scion from ending the world.
Hope you've got a way to kill the space-worm, anon.
>lucies healing potion
Proooobably not. If "regenerating missing appendages is a little trickier", then restoring a body that is dead to begin with? Might not happen.
As mentioned last thread, Ar Tonelico is known for creating souls/people from scratch (Pure-blooded Reyvateil). So there is that.
Can you spoiler me what
this scion and space worm are? i mean i've read like the first 11 or so arks and scion is described as the 1st superhero or something, why does it end the world?
He is actually The Warrior, an interdimensional alien space worm god bigger than a planet that gives people powers and then takes them back in order to learn a way to create energy so that his race will never starve to death after depleting the resources of all planets in all 10^60 dimensions
Alright, this might take a while.
Scion's not human at all, he's a fuck-off huge multidimensional space-worm who's about the same mass as the solar system in his true form. Scion's race is trying to figure out a way to prevent the heat-death of the universe, because they know eventually they're gonna use up all the energy as they continue to grow. They distribute shards of themselves across reality, these shards link up with people on the planet they choose and give them superpowers, they then inspire conflict so the capes fight each other, which allows the shards and their related powers to evolve. Scion and his mate, Eden, chose Earth for their cycle, but Eden was killed by a third entity before she could properly program and disseminate her shards. Scion gets all depressed because he can't complete the cycle and mopes around until Jack Slash convinces him to kill everybody on every Earth.
If anybody knows more, feel free to correct me. It's been a while since I read the story.
To clarify it's not just starving to death, mind.
In his PoV their race was genuinely concerned they would eventually grow so huge they would take up all space in every possible alternate universe, and the experimenting is to figure out how to survive THAT as well as universal heat death. Based on how they defeated him, it seems after he's shed the Shards from his body which are both part of his biology and the source of the powers, the "well" that contains his consciousness is somewhere between the size of a planet and a continent given they managed to kill him with an energy weapon hackjobbed together by every parahuman genius working together in a matter of minutes. In his natural state, he's much larger to the point he gives off the body heat of a star and communicates using power equivalent to a supernova
LIBERAL liberal amounts of magic, mind. We're talking actually justifiable uses of Giga Slave here.
You definitely want to give him a stern talking-to, he has almost no empathy and certainly no sympathy for humans, his species perceives them as lab rats and in the past they've remourselessly detonated every iteration of a planet just to continue travelling to find other species to infest Something others have overlooked: He's heartbroken in the current plot because his partner crashlanded on Earth and died, so he's deeply in despair because he's lost the "woman" he loved and because as far as he knows he can't complete the cycle anymore and will eventually run out of energy and starve to death
There are others, but you'd have to search REALLY HARD to find them. The Wormiverse's Milky Way isn't exactly bustling with life. Plus you probably wouldn't even be able to communicate with them.
It's not clear how many others there are, but there WERE many others of them blasting off into outer space. Glastaig Uaine, a parahuman whose Shard eroded her sanity in exchange, amongst other things, for a metaphorical sort of insight into how the Shard system operates, stated that the Worms leave a sort of energy breadcrumb trail in their massage to discourage other Worms from following the same paths they've explored, presumably to avoid wasting time on redundant experiments and/or prevent conflicts over territory There's at least one other out there, who's heavily implied to be the reason why Scion/Zion's partner Eden died. They met, exchanged shards (in a very violent fashion implied to be as much a brutal mad scrabble as an actual exchange of ideas given how desparate the Worms are to conserve and collect resources) and she ended up with a vastly improved Shard for calculative precognition. She was tinkering with this Shard when she crashlanded, and because this Shard is what Path to Victory (look it up on the jump) is based on, there's been speculation the other Worm deliberately gave her a Shard it deliberately altered/primed for sabotaging her. Later, from Scion's PoV he notices the canon PtV Shard i neither his nor one of Eden's dead ones-and most damngingly of all, the person who connected with that Shard was the one who killed Eden after she was trying to recover on Earth by building a humanoid avatar like Scion's
All these blackboxes are spooking me out, so. Shall we talk about less spoilerable settings?
Exactly what sort of technology does Gift of Chao from Negima, The Maddest Science Yet from Tenchi Muyo and Calamitytech from Bastion do? I know it's very good, but not much about the actual capabilities therein.
Furthermore, which Transformers setting boasts the best tech for Master Builder purposes?
So we have a potential friend amongst the stars who'd be pleased to have our titular space worm knocked off and solve their entire race's problem.
I mean really I have multiversal travel from other jumps and magic so I could probably kill big space worms but I kinda want to solve the problem without minimal bloodshed if possible.
Not really, the issue is only partially energy depletion. The Entities also tend to expand exponentially so eventually they're going to hit the point where they're all fighting eachother for resources and space again. Giving them infinite energy might slow things down but it won't stop them, as they'll still want to be preparing for the inevitable showdown with other Entities.
I can't stress enough how you really, really shouldn't think of them as "potential friends" because again, they view other species as lab rats.
How much magic d'you have? You confidant about busting a planet, fielding mental assaults overwhelming a planet-sized consciousness' or transmuting entire continents' worth of biomass into gold or whatever? It's true to say that the Entities, being purely deterministic beings, have no truck with magic whatsoever but I sometimes wonder if people underestimate the scale of how much magic you'd need to field to meaningfully affect one.
Which one? The one possessing Frisk, or the one who doesn't technically exist?
>Have immunity to ordinary resets.
Drawbacks override perks, and it explicitly states your memory gets reset.
Friends less so, ally or usable convenience yes.
Specifically? A nigh-infinite amount of energy exploiting fundamental chaos outside and between the multiverse that explodes violently and consumes matter on contact. All I really have to do is find out what spot I want to destroy then cut holes between multiverses using chaos shortcuts, then as multiverses move in relation to each other those points stretch and strain with chaos leaking out. Then after a couple minutes seal them. I just need to scale either time or the amount of relative cuts to however big a thing I need to destroy.
The downside is that doing so would probably have really negative effects for the other multiverses I'd like to avoid.
Indeed, and that's why I wouldn't trust a higher order being. Because I know how I'd act in that position.
Mind you, they have no innate capability for wielding magic whatsoever; the setting of Worm is purely deterministic, bereft of supernatural forces, everything is sufficiently advanced science. The only danger lies in if you've somehow spread magical artifacts or forms of magic that can be spread, taught to others and transmitted all over the planet, or forms of magic that can be interfered/reproduced scientifically like FF8's paramagic or possibly some of the lower end Gargoyles magics.
That's the really scary thing about them: All the bullshit they pulled off is, ostensibly, done only through multiverse-based science subject to conservation of energy. They don't even seem to have the innate materium-command the C'tan of 40K seem to benefit from.
1. I'm not sure if there is fundamental chaos outside or between the multiverse of Worm, but if there was I'm pretty sure the Worm Entities would've never grown to adulthood because even while they were evolving they were effortlessly tunnelling in and out of alternate iterations of their planet.
2. Where the blazes are you getting stuff from to pull this off? The only thing that springs to mind is maybe Webmage since this doesn't sound like the Giga Slave at all, and I don't remember any feats of this scale from that jump. Webmage, that is.
Webmage. In the books Necessity and the Furies describe events where they forget to close their trips through chaos behind them even momentarily. Its pretty much infinitely scalable as long as multiverses move. It a grade A bad thing to do for them to do but its a really good way to blow up a lot of things at once.
Well satan let me explain how webmage chaos gates work. Between realities exists chaos, opening a gate between two points connects the places through a sprt of hole in chaos, the longer they stay open the bogger the strain untill it popps, tungustka was when one person forgot to close a gate. However gates degrade over time. Even just pumping out chaos, while effective, wont really help that much since the chaos is only working on the current dimension. By the time you destroy the space whales you would probably have done irreperable damage to the planet.
And even then I dont know how the whales work since they exist on multiple dimensions at once it would probably take so long for chaos to eat a hole in them it may not be worth it.
Wait, wouldn't you not be able to access all that latent chaos once you leave the jump? Y'know, since other multiverses wouldn't have the same metaphysical structures? Or is it just an inherent part of the fairy ring travelling process I dimly remember from the jump?
If you're out there Aionon, can you clarify this? I don't want to accidentally step in primordial chaos while using fairy rings to travel
Um. Assuming the chaos is, in fact, there I would say one advantage it'd have is the Worms/Whales/Viruses/Entities would probably be unable to muster more efficient countermeasures than "shed off the infected part of their body" since they have no truck with the supernatural.
The real challenge would bee tripping it in Scion's well/core sealed off under dimensional barriers of unspecified but evidentantly powerful nature. Based on how his wife died, it's implied the wells are significantly more vulnerable to damage than the avatars, which in Scion's case at least were engineered specifically to handle any threat the Worms could reasonably foresee.
Fairy rings are structured through chaos, they've got a generally very low chance of dumping you into chaos. You have a far higher chance of getting trapped in an infinite loop of possibilities depending on how many fairy rings you've left in the multiverse or how many spontaneously appear. However both dangers are significantly reduced if you're a chaos power - capable of surviving in chaos/being chaos and innate quantum perception respectively.
Huh. That's neat.
I...I guess? I mean, the exact nature of the Worms' defences isn't exactly well described either since usually the narrators are all humans, so Scion's actions resemble divine intervention. They just go "oh shit guys, we can't break into the world holding Scion's core, something's blocking us". Eidolon, one of the more powerful parahumans, could do things like turn himself into a living field of space-time and erase matter at the height of his powers, but the full capabilities of intact, unsharded Entities haven't really been shown.
Then again I'm falling into the bad habit of using "dimensions" and "alternate universe" interchangeably, and all available evidence says the Worms' best tricks are usually founded on the latter.
A year, maybe 2?
Scion dies. The Shards go out of control, people start mutating into overpowered monsters when they trigger although the existing Shards seem to be working fine for whatever reason.
Actually Teaching (300cp, Discount Sensei) - You have an odd ability to actually teach really well. You can teach any ability you know to the likes of even Class 3-E. What's so odd about it is the way you can go about it and still pass on the knowledge. For instance Korosensei is able to teach lessons to individual students through assassination attempts. Bitch-Sensei teaches English by teaching seduction and lying skills. You have a similar method, perhaps you can teach someone to throw a fireball by having the student catch it with their bare hands. The methods you use are unorthodox and up to you how you achieve it.
Ok what are the limits on what can be taught with this so I dont overestimate it by doing something obviously stupid like trying to teach the kids to walk through walls with ghost powers or activate byakugan?
From assassination class
Around three years. From the start to when Skitter joins the Protectorate is about six months, then there's a two year timeskip, then the Slaughterhouse 9000 incident, then Golden Morning. Everyone keeps their powers after Scion is defeated, but new triggers malfunction so the rate at which parahumans appear drops for a while as the shards have to stabilize. Technically they trigger just fine, it's just that they usually mutate so severely in the process that they're non-viable afterwards and die from it. I'm pretty sure Wildbow said that they'd eventually settle down and work properly again, though.
Not bad, i can wait a year or two and then start stealing all the tinker tech without risking earth exploding right? i've got the books for free so i just need to read it in-jump and follow the plot anyway
Assuming you don't die in the fighting with Scion, sure. And before you say "I just won't fight him", Khepri mind-slaves every parahuman in existence to build an army to fight him with. All of them, reaching across all realities she can access. So either have really good anti-mind control perks, or hide in a reality she can't access like the Warehouse.
Yea but frkm what i understood from talking in this thread killing parahumans or messing in a major manner with them could lead to scion winning and the earth would be destroyed with me in it, and I'd rather avlid that
Jumpers have you ever had an opportunity to do something so stupid and rash you absolutely couldn't help yourself from taking the chance?
The Circlet from Adventure Time and that helmet from Marvel work really well too. I'd say the Circlet is even better since it resists the mental attacks of the Lich, who's implied to be the cosmic personification of genocide
I'm fond of Tutorial from Sword Art Online, makes you a single repetition learner. Combine it with Like Riding A Bike, also from SAO, so that your skills never degrade and you can easily transfer proficiency between related skill sets.
I use living zombies. Thanks to JoJopire's spores. I rarely use it through, because I rarely need zombies.
>She was able to do Case 53s
I haven't finished reading Golden Morning, but I thought it was stated that he was in a sweet spot protected by the Manton Effect: too organic to be affected by inorganic affecting powers, but not so organic that Panacea or Regent could mess with him.
Basically if you're able to learn it, you can teach it. Like magic, that's teachable. Ghost powers, not so much, unless you learned it from a Martial Arts. Bakyugun requires a special organ, so if you implant it in your students then you could teach them how to. But you can't teach them to be a kaiju or how to beat Thor in arm wrestling. That's what genetic engineering comes in, and outside the scope of the perk.
Isn't there loads of magic that you have to be born with, like the stuff from Type-Moon or the One Power from Wheel of Time? In fact now I think of it most magic is dependant on unique energy sources/metaphysical connections, how do you teach being a Lumen Sage to someone else?
FWIW, I'm pretty sure the reason Khepri decided against hijacking Sleeper was because "I'd rather not fuck with this guy," and not so much "welp can't do it." Though >>44814318
has a point, sufficiently exotic alt-forms would probably protect you
You can't teach them someone that is inborn. I know there's a lot of magic that's inborn, but there's a few that aren't. For instance, you can be a D&D Wizard, and teach your students how to be a D&D Wizard. Would this open them up for being taught magic from Harry Potter? Sure. However you can't teach someone to "be an elf".
Ah, fair enou-ooh, bad example there, from what I understand HP magic is also inborn. It's weird wizard genes according to Rowling, so muggles can't brew potions even if they have the right ingredients and swirl them that right way
That seems rather redundant considering the things you are saying can already be taught to people. You are basically saying if you buy this perk you can do something you can already do.
Ok, I gave examples. Bitch Sensei starts teaching the class of 3-E English by teaching them seduction. Literally first episode she's a teacher she has bunch English words up on the blackboard, then had the students repeat it. The phrases are like "I want to take you to bed." And later on she teaches other seduction techniques.
Think of it like having a teaching degree.
Thank you, final question can your assassination expertise for sensei be something like making it look like an accident? Im not sure how to say it better. Maybe a sort of trap assassination?
Fell down the stairs, choked on ice stung by bee when allergic kind of stuff
No problem. I kinda made AssClass way-way back during the Shinigami Jr. saga. So middle of second semester. A lot happened & still happening.
I might update it when Season 2 of Assassination Classroom anime ends.
From a mix of boredom, curiosity and a morbid desire for order, I made a list of the first 50 jumps released in chronological order. The listing is a bit inaccurate since I used my own arbitrary conditions as to what classified as complete, but these are the first fifty jumps released in a jumpable states, regardless of whether or not they were replaced or heavily edited later on.
The issue would likely be "is it based in traditional biology?" Dragon was unaffected because she was an AI. Spirit and robot would probably work decentralized, the inhuman form would probably depend on the precise form. Although there would probably be some issues if you get her attention.
Those should all work. The thing is that Khepri doesn't have mind control, not really. Worm is a monist universe, there's no such thing as a mind separate from a brain. So the Administrator shard is designed to manipulate brains, specifically ones derived from biological human neural architecture. So a spirit, a computer, or just a biological life form that's very different from the human nervous system would all be immune.
Thing is it worked on Case 53s, so while it primarily targeted human nervous systems it wasn't limited solely to them. Though if your form has am unusually novel nervous system it might not have been "solved" by the Entities.
>Soccer kicking arceus in the face
>Even Team Rocket is scared
Lyra confirmed for most hot blooded pokemon protagonist.
That's what I meant by "descended from biological human neural architecture". The Case 53s were all human at one point, so there's still enough similarity in how they process information. But Dragon, who despite having a human-like personality has very inhuman underlying structure, is immune. So I guess that mechanical or inhuman forms could potentially still be susceptible if they were too similar in neural architecture to human, like if the AI form was a direct mind-machine emulation or something like that. Spirit forms should be immune no matter what, though, there's nothing in the Entities' tool box for interacting with souls.
Sorry, meant that in terms of the inhuman form, not all three. I suspect that Dragon would need to be running on some form of wetware to affect her. And yeah, best bet is probably one of the weirder alt forms, NGE Angel would be perfect for this as an example.
>He slumps over and you look down at the Grot, the gun in his hand still smoking.
>There's one thing to do, and you do it.
>"Excellent shot Comrade! Thus fall all enemies of the Revolution!"
Why is Babs the best a flavour text?
Not very. All of the witches except Walpurgisnacht (who is unlike to show up while you're there since the jump ends before the series starts) can be defeated with conventional military hardware, so for a jumper with even a few jumps under their belt before going to PMMM there's little threat. The main danger is if you become overly reliant on your magical girl powers then you run the risk of becoming a witch yourself. Unless you took the Screw You, Kyuubey background, in which case you'll be fine.
None of the individual bodies are at all durable, but he's a hive mind spread over thousands of planets throughout the galaxy. Killing off every single one of them is going to take a while.
I think you can, yeah. It doesn't make any mention of you making a wish, so it should be open to you.
Think less in terms of power, more in terms of eldritchness. He's as alien as the Data Integration Thought Entity from Haruhi Suzumiya.
Both times he got mindfucked, it only happened because he was standing at the epicenter of what was basically a magical girl turning into a Chaos God capable of restructuring the materium. Oh yeah, his species considers emotion to be a mental illness.
Yeah, she pretty much decided not to fuck with him when she saw he was happy living in that mansion in his new dimension.
Now, let me say that in a different way. Khepri, who grabbed as many capes as she could possibly find to take on Scion, did not want to mess with Sleeper.
I've been working on my fate/ build and I've gotten everything figured out but my own noble phatasm(s). I was wondering if these are too over or underpowered or just not good at all I'm basing them off a few jumps that I've done in the past.
This world is my stage: A rank anti team this hight thaumaturgy mage craft reforms the land scape into an overly large theatre with a modern day fanciful design this noble phatasm ups the rank of physical skills to be the rank of the opponent with this highest luck. This is in addition to the parameter the user already has.
Clockwork King: A+ anti-unit this sliver axe with a steam punk esque gear and patchwork motiff has the ability to cut through concepts.
The library of Blake gate village: anti team A+++ the surrounding world I'm morphed into a Gothic library that is collosal to the normal person. The books are all blank and the design of the building it's self is for its ability. The longer that someone is in this domain the more the are drained of thier mana,life energy and possibly soul attacks made by the enemy are weakend and parameters for anyone that is not the user is dropped every 5 minutes.
Since we're talking Madoka, is there any way to return a magical girl who has become a witch back to her human state? I know the one time they try it in PMMM it fails, but ideally I'd be going in with something more than "Hey, try to remember who you are!" and a prayer.
I think Tsukihime and...Supernatural? Pretty sure it was Supernatural. Have items whose sole purpose is turning that which was once human back.
Bear in mind, Megucas are pretty much Liches with range limited phylacteries, so there's a real chance they'll turn into regular humans without magical powers.
Don't think you can. High Speed Divine Words is "the power to activate Thaumaturgy without the use of Magic Circuits"
I think you'd prefer High-Speed Incantation, which is "the capacity to recite spells at high speeds."
Sorry, to clarify-do you mean with in-universe methods or with things from other places? Because in-universe it appears to be an irreversible outcome short of breaking the entire system a la Madokami.
Otherwise, there's The Cure from Supernatural although you'll note the subject must be willing or heavily restrained. To render them willing the Anti-Demon Wavelength from Soul Eater, MERCY/SAVE the World from Undertale and maybe the Singer capstones from Macross if boosted are all good options. Though you'll want The End of a Dream from Through the Looking Glass to tear through the RMesque nightmare barrier witches naturally generate around themself so that you can actually reach out to them.
Actually (sortof?) happens in Rebellion, believe it or not.
It doesn't end well.
You basically have to do the whole "Remember who you are!" thing, so any perks you have relating to calming people down or snapping them out of despair or madness or even just getting them to like you would probably be effective.
After that, remember that they effectively lose their body in the process of becoming a witch, so in all likelihood you'll have to give them a new one. And that should work. Probably.
Oh, and remember to stand well back... cuz they're probably gonna come back REALLY yandere and possibly with weird powers.
Wasn't it performed by
Madokami and her divine agentsat the time, though? I thought it was going pretty poorly up and they were focusing on destroying her familiars until direct intervention happened. And then it kept going wrongbut the point was up until then, pretty sure that was more reality warping than the ol' remember-who-you-are actually working
I... honestly don't remember. It all sortof happened very quickly and then things started going down very quickly.
As a corollary, I think if you blew through them with RIDICULOUS amounts of anti-corruption/purification powers while cramming them inside a new meat shell, that could approximate the same thing.
There's not exactly a step-by-step, but the basic points seem to be:
1) Soul corruption has made them monstrous.
2) They are probably in a permanent state of having a panic attack.
3) They don't have a body.
So... fix those three, and you should be good.
And, keeping in mind that there's still a thought/mental outlook aspect to the whole witch deal and you have done absolutely nothing to solve this, my original statement ("shit's gonna get weird") still stands.
This World is My Stage
So, the point of this is to give yourself physical stats boosts equal to the stats of the opponent with the biggest luck? It's fine by me, since it's mostly situational and just a basic power boost you could get from somewhere else pretty easily. It's not that OP. But why is it Anti-Team? It seems more like Anti-Unit (Self)
Cutting through concepts is a pretty vague power. How do you suppose you'll use it? Do you mean you could for instance cut something with the concept of being impenetrable? It's just me, but I'd change the effect to negating conceptual effects instead of cutting them. But yeah, doesn't seem too OP, I guess, since most people don't have conceptual attacks. Unless you were going for "shields have the concept of protection, so I'll cut through that", then it's quite silly.
The Library of Blake Village
Yeah, seems pretty powerful. Honestly, since there doesn't seem to be a limit to this, I'd say it's EX territory.
All in all, nothing really bad, but
Not that Anon, but since you seem to have some idea of balance here... what would the Rank be for a Spear that always strikes true and incinerates whatever it touches?
Kinda like Gae Bolg, but more powerful and firey.
I was originally of another np when making this is my world I guess I didn't quite think of it.
For clockwork King I was thinking of having a situational weapon to fight against conceptual Bull shit I need to rework it thanks for the advice
The limit is the time for the library of black gate village I don't think it will be that easy to hold a heroic spirit for an entire five minutes people can still break this and leave it's not like auestus estrus domus aurea where there is no escape though I can see why it would have a EX rank maybe town down the effects ?
To be fair Worm powersets in the jump seem to somewhat be based on existing examples but often made more powerful or versatile than there canon counterparts. Maybe you should do that to provide balanced choices?
>Luin of Celtchar
...I hadn't heard of that before. But that looks to be exactly what I'm buying, yes.
Well, complete immunity to heat/fire would stop it short, I guess?
So... something like A to A++?
Not sure how burning concepts would work, I was just thinking nigh-guaranteed burning death.
It does sound interesting through... Through that'd propably put it squarely at Ex...
Well, complete immunity to heat/fire would stop it short, I guess?
That's not much of a weakness. So, the only way for it to not work is if you're immune to this specific element? That's EX territory my friend.
Speaking of nobles phantasms, I want an anti-unit class EX level one. I want something that isn't a fuck huge plant or army slaying monstrosity, but I want it to royally fuck over what I manage to hit with it.
I was thinking something along the lines of enforcing the concept of ending, normalcy, humanity on the things I hit. It wouldn't increase my attack power, so much as it would force the things I hit to become much more vulnerable. Ideally my attacks would do damage to them as if they were a normal human, though it does need to hit cleanly to affect them. I know there are some lesser ranked NPs meant to prevent immortality and regen, but is what I suggested too OP, even for an EX? If so, what is something similar that wouldn't be? I don't want anything to be able to ignore me when I hit it.
You could use the bastard love child of Vasavi shakti and Harpe. One part on forcing mortality on to things that don't have a concept of it and those who do. While also stopping supernatural healing by making it the natural standard of human healing
Yeah, you can. You have to have the right procedures for it, and the one who receives them will have some difficulty with the chakra costs, but you can do it.
Altough, if they don't have chakra, then that's going to be a problem. Chakra is something unique that is given to people by the Sage of the Six Paths, and the people of the Narutoverse already had Yin an Yang energies inside them from the beginning.
Supreme Commander to make it an ACU for three times the size, Five Star Stories to make it a Mortar Headd and buy five levels of Size Adjustment to make it another 2.25 times the size on top of that. It comes out to 216 kilometers long.
Reminds me of a female Forsaken joke in WoW "Yes, they're REAL! They're not mine, but they're real!" Referencing her boobs.
No that is not what happened.
Reminder that the only reason why Kirby defeated an evil abomination one time was because some guys stole Kirby's cake.
Never fuck with Kirby's cake
We used Kirby to perform SCIENCE! in the name of investigating whether there was an actual limit to the Minecraft alchemy's creation of resources from nothing or the Orgel's matter-energy conversion by setting up both to produce cake and then setting up a conveyer belt that terminated at Kirby's open mouth.
...results were inconclusive because after several hours of standing there eating cake Kirby got bored and ate the rest of the experiment.
That said, he didn't explode afterwards.
pic related, except replace kill with eat,
also metroid jump when?
Well taking Itachi's eyes is the easiest way to get Mangoes, if going up against Itachi can be called easy. Since Danzo only had mango but not eternal you would have to have mangoes of your own to replace if you want the eternal mangoes.
Kotoamatsukami. It can implant false memories so that the victim would do whatever the user wanted while thinking it was all their decision all along, when it never was, and they never notice.
Vampire normally kills you, which ends the chain, but ignoring that, you are a vampire/werewolf/whatever. Congratulations on being a giant ball of weaknesses, you're death awaits.
Your text is kinda misleading.
>Since Danzo only had mango but not eternal
This makes it seem as if you said that Danzo only had Mangekyo Sharingan, while he had one of those, and a bunch of regular Sharingan. If you said "Since Danzo only had -one- mango", I wouldn't have misunderstood it.
Ok look, I wasn't the clearest I could have been because Danzo was just an example of not getting eternal from a transfer. You misinterpreted it because of that. It's not the end of the world. Let's just move on.
It can also cancel out other mind control if the memories are counter to what the mind control is trying to make them do. For example, when zombie-Itachi was under control of Kabuto and triggered a "don't betray Konoha" Kotoamatsukami trap he had left for Sasuke, it broke Kabuto's control.
Potentially. The Sage contacts Naruto and Sasuke for their powerups while they're unconscious being healed. What Naruto is being healed from is having Yang Kurama ripped out of him, and he's healed of it by having Yin Kurama implanted. But hey, there's no reason that the Sage has to contact them then, that's just what he chose. Easy enough to rule that he does it when you, Naruto and Sasuke are all conscious, drawing you into a dreamscape intentionally rather than waiting for you to already be there.
Could I get some feedback on this complicated but hopefully interesting perk for the Star Wars: OT jump.
Drop-In Who Made You A General? [600cp]: Nepotism and a good reputation can open up a lot of doors. After joining any military organization you will be immediately promoted if you've befriended at least one officer within the organization and performed a crippling act against the organization's enemies before joining. Think of it like how the Rebel Alliance promoted Han to general after he helped destroy the Death Star. You will be promoted to the same rank as the person you befriended, however if they do not have an official rank or hold a position that should be unobtainable, or restricted to one person, you'll be granted the appropriate rank below them.
If you befriended multiple officers then you'll be promoted to the same position of the highest ranking one, barring any previously stated restrictions. After you've been promoted no one will question why you received your rank and people won't doubt your competence unless you give them reason to.
Maybe you misunderstood, in pretty much every lore becoming a vampire or other form of undead first requires becoming dying, which ends the chain. Buying it skips that part, but that wasn't the question, and while there may be exceptions to the "must die" rule, I was speaking to the general case.
Looks alright to me, though commen sense dictates the perk obviously won't protect you if you performed a crippling act/generally acted like a bit of a dick to the organisation before joining.
Good but too niche to be worth 600 CP in my opinion. Really depends on the other stuff in the jump in terms of balance of course but I can't see a lot of people taking this if there's reasonably powerful stuff on offer.
Could open it up to working on any organisation but then it may be a bit too open ended.
I think it'd be more like being a bargain bin DBZ character, shooting energy bursts powered by your own superheated thermal energy or something. Kind of like Boros from OPM, but probably not as powerful initially.
Maybe in your chain you houserule being undead as dying but you are in no way in charge of other peoples chains. Generally the go to is that becoming a vampire doesn't end your chain. Im not even who you responded too you're just too much of a dick.
If you mean to cure them within the jump, I recommend first taking down the Necromancer(s) otherwise you risk your work being undone, then (at least start on) rebuilding the biosphere because it's almost fubar and the food chain is pretty much down to weeds and algae.
Uh, I think you also misunderstood what he's trying to say. His point is that most forms of undeath require one to die in the first place. This isn't a problem if you're getting it from the Benefactor, but if you want to become one during your stay in a world there are obvious issues.
Becoming a vampire by buying it doesn't end the chain. Becoming a vampire by having all your blood sucked out, then dying, then coming back as a vampire ends your chain, because step two in that process was dying.
Eisenhower wasn't president. He was the headest of honchos at the time, being the five star general in charge of every allied army in Europe.
Granted, even if you take into account that five stars are extremely rare, even being bumped down to four stars would put me in a position where I have some serious impact on post VE-Day events.
Yes. It's why Kisame is so ridiculous while having a somewhat underwhelming bloodline limit. His sword constantly drained him of Chakra for years on end, so his reserves ended up insane.
And it grows and becomes stronger as it absorbs chakra, so it would be able to keep up with you no matter how big your supply got. Though wielding it might become inconvenient after a while.
Dumping. Probably still needs work. Supplement to follow.
I for one, welcome our new robotic overlords.
Love the mini-scenarios.
You're immune to psychic powers that directly affect you. Telepathy being the example. You couldn't un-summon a monster, but you'd be immune to having a monster summoned into your brain.
Ditto for the warp storm.
I've said yes before, as others have noted.
Should be a power on page 7; the one on the drive is updated, but you may have an old version somehow (that got added a year ago).
To clarify on psychic immunity:
You would be immune to having a warp storm summoned inside you...you would not be immune to one being summoned -around- you. A greater demon can punch you in the face.
You would be immune to a power that boiled your blood. You are not immune to a jet of flame being shot at you.
What else specifically do you have issue with?
>Bad examples of Vagueities (Pruning the Evolutional Tree for example)
>Things that practically require on future rulings and already seems iffy (Skull Juju)
>The fact that a lot of my criticisms are already in the beginning CP stages
>The 600s aren't as useful as the lower tiers
I'll give it a better look over but this really needs polishing
>Rogue 600cp [Drifter] There’s a reason you never stay in one place for long: you don’t play by other’s rules. Whether it’s a warlord’s plan to secure more territory, some cabal’s plan to breed a perfect mutant, or a slave revolt in the making, you have the ability to pull apart the most careful schemes, avoid other’s Xanatos Gambits, and topple it all into disorder. You could do this subtly, with quiet words to the right people, but you’re equally capable of wrecking power plays by kicking down the right door and opening fire.
Just what? No man.
Rogue and Grapevine Ingenuity needs some clarification. Psychopathy needs a range, and eye in the sky is alright? I really like 'One more you walk into the sunset', though a toggle wouldn't be horrible. All the 100cp perks are too OP for being 100cp. I like them though. Mutagenesis seems a bit OP as well. Keep at it, definitely needs some polishing. Also >>44823349
Well technically no author has to listen so there's that, and im sure that's happened, some things slip through, and just because it exists in those jumps doesnt mean those jumps are considered good.
But in the end it is a matter of opinion so i'll just shrug
In a statement that vague, it's impossible to make a total judgement.
What makes those people arbiters? Though honestly it's more that these people now are likely new, or, they're being pickier because it's a generic, which people have admitted to in the past. Generics and OC are treated more strictly than established settings.
The main reasoning for Rogue was "what do these types of protagonists tend to do?", and the answer I came up with was "they aim to fuck up the antagonists plans".
I'll revise everything that's been brought up.
I can't help it. I wasn't able to know if he was simply misinformed or just writing vaguely enough to seem misinformed without him explaining. I was trying to help him with his grammar.
It's...a good start I guess? Some of the perks don't really feel like post-apocalypse at all and mostly just feel like "Random Superpower X", like the mass populace mind control perk, and the community brain drain perk. Items...look fine I guess? Mostly just overlaps a lot with the existing zombie apocalypse jump.
Scenarios. I'm on the fence about these. The fact that success isn't even a requirement to get the CP just makes it seem like a blatant CP grab. The fact that you already have "scenarios" in the location roll makes it seem like an even more blatant CP grab. I'll be honest, did you just put them in so you can jump aboard the bandwagon and say you write scenarios like Babylon and CCDT does?
Congratulations on making a jump either way.
He was probably inspired by the more esoteric and supernatural apocalypse settings, dear anon. Not all of them are the standard 'realistic' nuclear war or zombie plague scenarios.
I wasn't even the person you were originally responding to
was the first post I've made even vaguely relating to this discussion.
Not everyone is the same guy. You're angry at various people for voicing the same opinion because you think it's one guy trying to tell you what is and isn't acceptable.
I don't even care about this jump. I don't really feel we need a generic post apocalypse jump so I'm not going to make a build for it anyway. I just think you're an idiot.
You have to admit that continuing someone elses argument for them as an anon means that nobody can be reasonably expected to think you're a new person. That's the danger of jumping into people's conversations here.
I meant that they weren't claiming arbitration, they were claiming that thread didn't have a shitstorm about it. You know, like what happens when there are bad jumps or bad options. Maybe they meant something else, I really don't know. I should however know better than to try to clear up what looks like miscommunication.
Also, nobody ever said everyone complaining was the same person. That post was talking about how the anon it was replying to phrased something. That you think otherwise is your own misreading.
Then how many generic apocalypse jumps are we going to have until we've actually represented all of the settings? We already have zombie apocalypse, I guess myrmidont is working on generic alien apocalypse next from what the jump says, was this meant to be generic vanilla apocalypse, or generic supernatural magic apocalypse, or what?
I figure we've already resigned ourselves to allowing whatever generic people want to make, so if that's going to be the case I'd like to figure out what kind of jump this one in particular is supposed to be in the author's intentions.
Rate and tell me what is wrong with my build.
Location: Jump City
Martial Arts (Free)
Peak Human Condition (-100CP)
Super Strength (-150CP)
Super Speed (-200CP)
Supernatural Durability (-300CP)
Annoying Super Team (+100CP)
Firstly, you're not a demon or an alien. Secondly you're not able to make one full power clone of yourself and progressively weaker copies.
In all seriousness though your build is fine.
You didn't buy a set of OC Tamaranean waifus whose sole purpose in life is serving you.
Also, you aren't your own original character Braven, the long lost secret sister of Raven, whose soul is stained ebon by her father's sins, who leads a virtuous life in hope of bleaching her spirit under the eyes of god so that she may find rest in heaven together with her Nine Inch Nails CDs.
This is 3 pages. Your main jump is 11 pages. Why don't you just merge the two of them together? Makes it a lot easier for people when they can access everything from a single file, and it's not like this is actually a medium sized jump even.
Okay serious, what the fuck is wrong with you people? Where are all the asshurt people whining about Teen Titans coming from? Band of folks from the IRC? I know you guys don't like the jump.
Anon, they're joking.
For anyone curious, the reason I took those perks is that I am seriously lacking in strength and durability perks.
Also, two additions in the form of Engineering and Empathy.
I was actually just joking about what I thought people's reactions would be, mostly because he asked what's wrong with it. I went half demon and don't have a problem with it or the Tamar-alien option.
I don't think it's anyone from the IRC, it's just jokin' on the whole
*Blatantly the correct choice
Yak's build is fine, and while there are some problems with having some origins being better than others, you don't gotta wave that salt around just cause of some people making jokes
wait, there's 6-5
oh my god you're right
I'M A TOMATO
>all this rage, to feed Khorne
>all this passion, to feed Slaanesh
>all this jolliness and decay, to feed Nurgle
>all this trolling, to feed Tzeentch
It's the hair. Needs to be a touch longer.
That being said, I too prefer robo-Curie, since as a synth, she tends to go "fuck zis gun you gave me, I'mma smash shit" and proceeds to whack the super mutant or w/eh with the duper sledge. Cute, but can be a pain in the ass
>World is my stage
No. I banned Original One for a reason, and this is no different. It means you'll always be at least as strong, fast and tough as your opponent in a one on one fight with zero upper limits (Meaning you could potentially copy a TYPE if desired) and outside of Servants you can decide what Luck rank people has easily to target the effect as you desire.
No, you cannot cut any concept you want for A+. It might be viable if you limit it to a more specific option but no cutting any and all concepts.
>Library of Blake
The basic idea is fine, but you need to nerf the power of it a fair bit and also expand on what exactly it effects. If you boost it to EX it should be fine, though the drain should eventually cap out at how many rank downs it can give to someone.
Depends on how far you want to take 'always'. If you mean no matter what, then it's not buyable because there will always be exceptions, even if it's just having enough Luck/Instinct/whatever to dodge. An effect like Gae Bolg's activated use but all the time would be EX on it's own. The burning thing on it's own would be A-A+ depending on how strong the fire is. You won't be getting instant kill fire on a single touch even at EX.
Outright hurting /anything/ as if it was base human? No, that'd be too much even at EX. Something like what >>44818456 says is much better, as it allows you to both harm/kill things otherwise unharmable/unkillable (Without just making any of your attacks easily kill them) and prevents them from just healing to lolnope it.
Think that's every question.
You can buy an empty Jumper-brand version of Gate of Babylon for... A+ rank, I think it was? Though you can make modifications to it to increase or decrease the Rank, like adding or removing storage space, altering the fire rate, etc.
Reality Marbles are purchaseable in several jumps, as well as as an NP in the Servant Supplement.
You can get a copy of EMIYA's reality marble (The gear sword thing) if you're unable to think of something original, but it'll come with mental affects on you to make you more like EMIYA. If you want you can get an empty GoB and fill it up with your own stuff.
It's not infinite.
An NP that does the same with every attack without costing any prana. Lancer can use his special attack a half dozen times a day before exhuasting his reserves, this'd let you spam it as much as you want and with no warning.
It's not doing the same as Gae Bolg. It costs more to get it as an always-on ability that applies to every blow from it than it does to get it as a prana-costing ability that has to be activated (requiring shouting the name, so revealing exactly what the NP is and thus who the Servant is) to apply the ability to one blow.
If we roll a 1 for Time, does "actions taken now might radically shape the future of humanity" mean we have a chance to prevent the Apocalypse from happening, or does "happening right when you jump in" mean you can only at most mitigate the consequences?
Nice job so far, does need some work, I would suggest writing out specifically that Bad JuJu only has one use per skull, that may help stop some of the complaints.
I'm one of those jumpers that likes new powers as long as they are interesting and yours a bit neat. Certainly adds to my build in cool ways.
May I suggest OC companions such as Van Helsing or Dinosaur valley? This would be awesome for it.
It's similar to Promotion in that you'll find it much easier to get titles/status in future jumps, but Nobility has it focused on social/noble stuff rather then military ranks. Yes, the Hidden Lab follows you on future jumps.
What do you think would be a suitable replacement for this world is my stage I didn't think it out as well as I could have it was a thing to stop my caster self from being squish squish.
Clockwork King is a bit too much and I should have made it specific
The library of black gate village was originally supposed to be a miniscule drain and weakening effect but I was trying to scale for the A+++ and got a bit to ambitious I guess. Thanks val
Reality Marbles can be bought in Fate, Tsukihime and as Noble Phantasms in either Fate or Fate/Extra through the supplement. Kara no Kyokai doesn't have an option though it is possible to develop one there and the Type Moon Jump is defunct by now.
Couldn't I just make noble phantasms to rank up my physical stats if I have EX item creation? I was trying to aim for more conceptual and attack worthy noble phantasms to buy that I couldn't out right make on my own.
Anon, tank is putting it lightly. It's practically a land battleship.
Er, shit. Yeah, Engineer seems to fit for that so I'll say taking it gives you the skill to drive most normal tanks.
You could make stat boosting ones I suppose though you'd then be relying on items for it.
Actually considering the in-setting context it is pretty practical. Its armor can shrug off anything that hits. The Valkof cannon utterly wrecks anything in your way. And it's good for intimidation since tanks and lances are everything here.
Of course in other settings, it'll either get bombed to hell by aircraft, nuked or suplexed by some stronk guy.