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Everyone's heard the jokes about wizards turning men into women, but what spell actually does so?
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>>36938056
Polymorph Other.
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>>36938056
Depends on the system/setting.
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>>36938056
Polymorph Other

The funniest part is transformations caused by Polymorph other decay based on how far from the base creature you change the subject with turning a man inot lets say a Gargauntian Gold Dragon lasting a couple of rounds and changing someone into a Frost Giant a couple of hours is the wizard is skilled.

Changing someone's gender, because it only changes the base creature one shift, is a permanant effect unless disspelled.
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You killed a thread for this, OP.
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>>36938341
It was worth it
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>>36938313
This makes me wonder, if you go into a a brothel in a city with a lot of mages and cast mass Dispel, how many of the women turn into guys?
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>>36938056
baleful polymorph
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>>36938950
[spoilers]all of them[/spoilers]
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Ray of Enfeeblemant

I am going to hell.
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>>36938056
Sauce on that gif?
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>>36938056

Bestow Curse is the easiest, lowest level way to do it.
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>>36938056
In GURPSland it's something like...
>Affliction (Hermaphromorph, Maldiction) [around 5 to 30]
You could add "duration: permanent" with the spell ending "when I hit them with it again".
I would also say making it a "once per day" or otherwise making it difficult to cast (so that the joke doesn't get old as fast and you don't overspend) would be appropriate.

At least that's if you're using the powers system. The Magic book has a sex change spell in it, if I remember correctly. In the Body Control College of magic. It's right next to the harmless decapitation spell.
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>>36939161
>harmless decapitation spell
What.
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>>36939189
Never looked into GURPS, but I presume it's something that lets you remove somebody's head but have everything still function as normal otherwise.
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Shit, is that one girl marth or man marth?
I can never tell the difference.
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>>36938056
oh shit nigger thats kawaii
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>>36939213
Girl Marth. Longer hair.
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A world where all of one gender has died out and its is required for beings to be polymorphed in order for species to continue living. Prisoners of war, criminals, and people who want to change become the opposite gender so that the species don't die out.
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>>36939213
That's notMarth!girl from the new FE.
You see how one eye is a different color? Use that to tell the difference.
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>>36938950
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>>36939090
Starbomb
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bard spells do that too
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>>36940149
so wait bards can become Dimitry Maximov?
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>>36940149
WHAT SYSTEM!
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>>36940723
pathfinder
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/3rd-party-spells/tricky-owlbear-publishing---3rd-party-spells/reverse-gender
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>>36940913
I'll tell our cleric of cayden cailean this, he's been considering multiclassing into bard
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>>36938056
I remember a cursed Belt of Feminity/Masculinity back in 2nd ed, that looked like another kinda magic belt and reversed your gender when you put it on. Haven't seen a spell specifically for that aside from funny unofficial splatbooks.
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>>36941265
Belt of Giant's Strength is what I've seen.
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>>36939090
Lucina from Fire Emblem: Awakening.
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>>36941265
That's standard in literally every thread of this type.
Also, it's a Girdle.

More on topic, Pathifinder has an Elixer of Sex Shift that's basically a single-use GoM/F in potion form.
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>>36939503
>>36939503
alright I'll be that guy, source?
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>>36941639
What is the difference between a belt and a girdle?
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>>36941689
Wakfu.

The joke is that there's a shop right across from there that sells potions that reverse gender.
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>>36941714
Girdles typically go farther up the waist and are meant to maintain one's figure rather than hold pants up.
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>>36938056
If your name happens to be Edwin, there's a Netheril scroll somewhere around Atkhatla's crypts that'll do just that !
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>>36941805
Isn't this a corset?
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>>36941856
Pretty sure girdles are somewhere between belts and corsets.

Kinda like those ribbons you occasionally see around girls' waists.
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>>36941856
Corsets are more about the bust and the hourglass figure.
Girdles focus on the butt, stomach, and thigh.
They also frequently have a panty and leg coverage.
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>>36939076
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>>36941856
>>36942157
Also, can double as outerwear, whereas girdles are almost always underwear.
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>>36939503
Why are the french so good at animating lewd?
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>>36938088
>>36938313
My only problem with that sort of thing is the duration is permanent, meaning it can be dispelled, is there any spell that could genderswap someone with a duration of instantaneous (and therefore not dispellable)?
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>>36942840
In PF/3.5, there's Girdle of Masculinity/Feminity and Elixir of Sex Shift.

The former's so powerful, Wish/Miracle has a 50% chance to undo it, while the latter is pretty cheap and easy to spike someone's drink with.

Although if someone's dispelling your spells, you're wizarding wrong.
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>>36942741
because they are lovers, not fighters
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>>36942881
Dispelling is a legitimate issue when people can throw Disjunctions and AMFs at you. Also the wizard himself may not be around to prevent the dispelling. Any way you can jack up your caster level the NPC mage can too.
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>>36942881
>>36942931
Given how polymorph any object works, what would you say is a good "benchmark to make the duration instantaneous rather than permanent?
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>>36942931
Yes, but you have PC level wealth and optimization, and if a powerful wizard gets told to take time out of his day to help a peasant with a negligible curse, he's going to be mighty grumpy.
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>>36939503
Being a dude or a lesbian in Wakfu must be the best thing ever.
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>>36943010
Not him, but it's more the principle of the thing, change gender needs something like a specific counter spell rather than just a matter of walking into an Antimagic field or getting it dispelled, so someway to make the effect instantaneous rather than permanent is needed
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>>36942999
At the very least, Wish for one of those two magic items to be created around their waist/in their mouth.

In practice, depends on how specialized you want it. You could probably eke out a PaO that goes up to Instantaneous duration from a 9th level spell, but a simple Humanoid -> Humanoid should be around 6th. If it's completely limited to mechanically nonexistant effects? Maybe 4-5.

>>36943072
They were right beside a gender-swap potion shop.

So it isn't just dudes.
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>>36942741
>good at animating
>flash

pick one
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>>36943154
>what is wakfu
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>>36943126
Antimagic fields are 10m/level duration, and need, what, an 11th level spellcaster to even consider casting one?
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>>36943154
Fuck you Wakfu has great animation
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>>36943177
Still doesn't matter, needs to be instantaneous, though >>36943129's idea about level 4-5 might be good, maybe build it off alter self?
Change it to instantaneous and target to other?
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Couldn't you get eternal youth if you kept abusing Polymorph Other?
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>>36943416
Probably, until you hit an anti magic field or get dispelled
Another point for "there needs to be an instantaneous polymorph"
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>>36938056
Wish should work. But there's probably "cheaper" alterantive.
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This may be a dumb question, but do you guys ever throw in strange magical origins behind some of your NPCs when DMing?

Something like this might seem a bit weird, but it'd be interesting if someone seemingly mundane might've been something else before magic intervened, whether it is reincarnation, wish or polymorph.
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>>36938056
Baleful Polymorph
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>>36943646

Oh yeah, I do this a shit ton. I like to subscribe to very mystical ways to handle magic, and this can happen all the time. For example, if you are a Wizard and you turn that bastard who slept with your wife into a pig, even if only for a while, when he turns back to normal his pig traits aren't 100% gone. Maybe he'll always be a little chubby or have a 'squeal' sounding laugh, or he'll always be a bit pinkish. This sort of shit happens all the time because of magic, and every town has to have at least one or two people touched by it, either in a good way like they have some potentially mystical talents or in a more negative way, but in any setting with any amount of magic users running around this is bound to happen.
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>>36938341
probably just a quest thread, and as such, good riddance
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Why are you so determined to have this happen?
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>>36943154
>thinks Wakfu doesn't have good animation
>hasn't watched Wakfu
pick both
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>>36943154
I know anime isn't exactly /tg/'s thing, but Ping Pong the animation was done in flash.
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>>36945126
shits and giggles why else?
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>>36943646
Like the pretty village girl used to be a gold dragon, but someone wished she became more fuckable?
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>>36948334
>inb4 somebody talks about how a gold dragon is already perfectly fuckable
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>>36938056
Lucina a shit.


Post Anna.
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Rolled 11 (1d100)

>>36948568

Anna guide my dice.
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Rolled 92 (1d100)

>>36948644
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