/box/ - not paying attention edition

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Reminder that CrossFit is for losers

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>>77151971

>>77151945
and to think... Robert Guerrero fought Mayweather before...

>>77152454
Easy to say now with the benefit of hindsight that those two were ridiculous fights and neither deserved to be in the ring with Mayweather, but at the time, Guerrero and Ortiz were hot shit

>>77151971
unless they're a female who has grown a nice ass from it

>>77152510
The bantz were great for the Guerrero pressers. Especially Reuben, the dad.

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>people excited about ggg vs canelo
>people excited about money vs mcgreg
fuck that shit.
this fucking card for the chocoloatito vs NEEEEESH rematch is fucking insane.
the monster and caudras are on the undercard.
who here /NEEEEESH/?

>>77152559
YOU LIKE THAT HUH....WOMAN BEATER

>>77152677
pretty sure everyone recognises superfly as the best card of the year

>>77152677
NEEESH NEESH NEEESH
>wins round 10-9

What did the judges mean by this?

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>>77152681
>rustled so hard Floyd had Conor sign a contract that says he can't talk about spousal abuse

>>77152677
There are some quite HYPE fights coming up desu, looking forward to August and September

Frampton back in action
Lomachenko - Marriaga (will be good if only to see more Lomachenko)
Crawford - Indongo in a proper unification fight
The fight card you mentioned
Canelo GGG
Flanagan - Verdejo mite b cool

Most of these fights probably have clear cut winners, but I'm excited either way

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Give me your honest opinion of Wladimir Klitschko.

>>77152761
Forget about the career earnings, his business ventures, etc. He already won at life with his wife.

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its time for robert guerro to retire. that bum got rekt

>>77152732
DAT HEART THO
is what the judges meant. that was a great fight and I cannot wait for the rematch.
also for the sake of posterity
NEEESH NEEEESH NEEEEEEEEESHHHHHHH

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>>77152761
An octopus observer with a crystal jaw. Although there are enough famous scalps in his collection.

>>77152761
It's hard to have a reasonable discussion about the guy up because he tends to draw such extreme opinions. He had some serious flaws as a fighter and his opposition was weak, but he still dominated the heavies for a decade. Not one of the all-time greats but still a great fighter.

I don't think his chin was really that bad either, his real problem was that he panicked when he got hit and shot his wad.

>>77152849
>An octopus observer

What did he mean by this?

>>77152864
The whole career embraced the dwarfs and traveled on their backs. You did not see him fighting?

>>77152864
>wlad_at_the_aquarium.png

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60-40 I TEAR YOUR ASS UP

60-40 I KICK YOUR ASS

>>77152791
uh...you need to google "Robert Downey Jr blind item Hayden Panettiere"

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>>77151945
>not linking the old thread
>not posting the results of guerrero vs figueroa jr or Marcus Browne vs Sean Monaghan

NOT GONNA MAKE IT KID

>>77152918
Wlad is gay? Doesn't seem like it from those "photos".

>>77152963
fuck me that chick can throw a right better than I can
someone taught her that shit. Im impressed.

>>77152998
> Wlad is gay
Oh mai..

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>>77152963
no head movement no footwork id spark that bint easy mate no bother probably on juice as well looks off her head on drugs

>>77152999
in heels too, no less

>>77153017
it's just anonymous source celebrity gossip

>>77152677
>excited for little boy mega manlet division

No.

>>77152918
>uh...
>telling us to google some female celebrity gossip site

what are you doing itt fag

>>77153044
He has a lavender marriage with his "kinda" wife.

>>77153039
I fucking love these posts

>>77153165
>I fucking love these posts
>these

That was only one post mate

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>>77153039

>>77153353
>>77153361
hi newfags pls stick around our general is dying

>>77153361
I'm out of shape around 220lb now and I could roll out of bed and whoop any of you bums in this thread.

Don't @ me ever again.

>>77153491
I would bounce your head off the canvas

>>77153497
Only thing you've ever bounced is that ass on your dad's dick m8

>>77152510
True they were hot shit for a very hot second. But what does it mean to floyds career? Why doesn't anybody look at his career objectively instead of just reading off names and saying he fought the best.

The first title he won was a joke against a hack who got lucky he fought a very old champ. After that he fights some small Puerto Rican guy. The underwhelmingness of floyds career continues as he fights either old boxers or fighters who just came off getting their shit rocked.

He never rematches de la hoya
He never fought undefeated cotto
He never fought margarito
He never fought prime manny
And he fought Marquez who came up two weight divisions and was then being considered the p4p number 1

>>77153622
Your post is filled with so much butthurt it's not even funny

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>>77153622
>He never rematches de la hoya
Did you know? after he "beat" de la hoya floyd decided to retire even tho their was rematch in the contract. Thats why de la hoya has always had a grudge against floyd. When he came back it was too late and de la hoya was retired.

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>>77153052
I had the exact same opinion until I saw some flyweight title fights, they are going all in

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>reading some comments about the Mayweather McGregor fight
>MMA fans and analysts unironically seem to believe that the fact that Connor McGregor fights in a karate stance is an advantage against Mayweather in a boxing match

I think MMA fans might well be some of the most retarded people on earth

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>>77154035
>analysts

>>77153742
It's not meant to be funny. I'm trying to bring up how none of his opponents were true tests but yet somehow everyone in the sport gives him the nod.
>>77153817
Yea I knew that I'm not some little kid who just started watching boxing.

how was the american card last night?
got too pissed and fell asleep

>>77154289
Pretty good if you knew the stories

>>77154289
>got too pissed and fell asleep
why? its was good. One controversial decision and the pbc card was comfy. I missed the eubanks jr fight.

>>77154308
to lose

>>77154035

I think about this fight in the day now and start laughing. It's going to be so weird seeing McGregor in there with Floyd.

>>77154314
my cousin was having a stag party so I got smashed innit

I did see the eubank fight, was meh, not competetive at all, abraham barely landed a shot and never really looked in trouble 120-108, Eubank looks impressive but I have a feeling he will get exposed badly soon

>>77154314
Really wasn't happy about that decision, it's a shame his conditioning wasn't better. Missed the pbc card who was on it?
>>77154358
Abraham fights haven't been competitive for a while

>>77154314
>why? its was good.

"pissed" means very drunk in bong parlance

>>77152750
>Flanagan - Verdejo mite b cool
Hell no, Verdejo is the biggest hype job at the moment, I expect Flanagan to easily win this fight.

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>>77155538
> I expect Flanagan to easily win this fight.

>>77155538
Flanagan is shit mate

It'll be a snoozefest either way

Easter Jr is the #1 at 135. Shafikov and Commey would probably beat Flanagan, Linares and Verdejo

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>>77154322
https://www.reddit.com/r/Boxing/comments/6njxj0/help_me_out_fellas_mayweather_vs_mcgregor/

>inb4 >leddit. It's actually useful to find full fight vids the morning after a fight

>Size: MMA guys simply count the height and reach advantage as an advantage. Yes Floyd has beaten opponents with larger size before. I've read that MMA fighters cut / gain more weight for fights than boxing. So McG might normally walk around at 170, whereas Floyd normally might be 155. If Conor bulks up after weigh-ins, he could be considerably larger and heavier than Floyd - which in turn has pros and cons associated with it.

>Stance: As Conor alluded to this week in the press conferences (post show media scrums), he can fight in many stances - whereas Floyd fights in one stance; the Mayweather stance. If Conor comes at him in karate, thai boxing, kung fu ninja, etc - his bet is it throws Floyd off enough to land some power shots.

>Distance: Conor likes to bounce around a lot. He bounces in and out of range at different angles and in different stances with each bounce. I've watched many Mayweather fights and have yet to see an opponent that even comes close to Conors movement.

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>>77156116
>A Side: Conor is the A side no doubt. Everyone watching this is tuning in to see Conor win spectacularly and Floyd lose spectacularly. Floyd was retired, his fan base consists of most;ly people who recognize his achievements, recognize that he is a boring fighter to watch and deep down want to see him lose because his persona is unbearable. Conor has the more rabid global market no doubt.

>Clinch: I don't get the clinch either. I assume both fighters will try to batter each other in the clinch. McG is younger and more aggressive here though -and may have more MMA-style 'tricks' to pull in the clinch.

>Power":; Where is Floyds power compared to Mcgregors? He brought Porier to his knees, slept Aldo, broke down Alvarez, let alone the other earlier fights like Brimage and Buchinger. He has power and Floyd candidly has less.

>Brenden is knowledgable on MMA but he is an admitted Conor groupie so everything he says is very skewed towards Conor.

>For MMA fans of Conor though - we look at what he has said / predicted and accomplished and it's hard to doubt him anymore.

>all this complete nonsense about stance and distance
>Conor is the A side no doubt (top top top top kek. Might be my favourite thing that MMA fans believe about this)
>MMA tricks in the clinch. Again, top lel

>>77151945
Is Joe Cortez the worst ref in boxing?

>>77156234
He unironically didn't do anything wrong there, Ortiz had already apologised to Mayweather for headbutting him.

2nd apology was completely pointless and Ortiz should have been in box mode by that point.

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>>77156152
why are people so stupid

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>>77156234
he

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>>77156116
>analysts like Brendan Schaub.

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>>77156152

>>77156300
>starts action with the most subtle hand gesture possible
>looks away and starts talking to the timekeepers
His body language gave the impression that the fight hadn't been started again. If you call the action to begin you should be watching the fighters. He pulls this kind of shit all the time. He's corrupt as fuck.

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>tfw Figueora just earned himself an invitation to get his shit rocked

>>77156300
He should have stepped in to make sure there weren't any shenanigans like the ref just did in Corrales-Castellanos, dude wasn't even watching the fight. But yeah, it is basically Ortiz's fault. They say "protect yourselves at all times" before the start of literally every single fight.

>>77156544
he said hes going to fight in 140.

>>77156544
who is spencer fighting next

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>>77156152
>more MMA-style 'tricks' to pull in the clinch

>>77156671
Garcia should but he's a bitch

VOLTRON

>>77156671
A relatively soft one in his hometown. Maybe Collazo?

Sammy Vasquez Jr

Seriously though, why are white Americans so bad at fighting? Is it the oestrogen in the food?

>>77157704
al haymon fucked up his career

>>77157784
>Seriously though, why are white Americans so bad at fighting? Is it the oestrogen in the food?
well hispanic americans and Black americans eat the same food.

>>77157784
Punished Smith jr will be a different beast once he quits his construction job and focuses on boxing

>>77157784
Too many opportunities. Jewish Americans were great at fighting when they were broke as fuck

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>>77158168
>Jewish Americans were great at fighting when they were broke as fuck
>fighting

>>77157784

They just don't do it. Boxing is dangerous and it's a developed country. No social health care either. Floyd was right, the ones left couldn't cut it so went off to their own sport

>>77151990
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wi0Xy6GVCkA

>>77152998
>"photos"
What are you referring too?

>>77156116
>Stance: As Conor alluded to this week in the press conferences (post show media scrums), he can fight in many stances - whereas Floyd fights in one stance; the Mayweather stance. If Conor comes at him in karate, thai boxing, kung fu ninja, etc - his bet is it throws Floyd off enough to land some power shots.
Is this guy seriously suggesting that Connor should bum-rush a defensive counter-puncher with a karate stance?
lmfao

Can anyone tell me more about this Super Sixteen Series tournament? I heard cruiserweights fight middleweights but that doesn't sound right.

>>77159494
There will be a cruiserweight tourney and a super middleweight tourney running side by side. Eight fighters each

>>77159494

worldboxingsuperseries.com

One tournament for cruiserweights, one tournament for super middleweights. knock out competition quarter final > semi final > final

>>77158763

Basically saying Floyd will miss punches and open himself up because the range will throw him off lmao Floyd will probably start on the front foot and land a jab in the first few seconds to let him know what's up

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>>77158763
>implying Conor won't out-awkward Floyd and strike from unpredictable angles and hit with his mystical left hand for a TKO in round 4

I think you'd be surprised, for sure 100% he'll get knocked out my guy

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>>77160511
Are we done posting boxing wives?

>>77157784

honestly I think it's because most boxing gyms are in inner city ghettos where white people would never go

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>>77160844

Fireman Jim Flynn

/heem/ here, are boxing and especially mayweather press conferences usually this cringy and mandrama tier or is it because of mcgregor?

surprised Szpilka got stopped so fast

>>77163709

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPlvkyS1gy0

>>77163709
box had a relationship with mandrama long before MMA was on the radar.

>>77163961
Would you let Mike fuck you till you love him?

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>>77164311

>>77163749
Wilder's resume looks worse by the day. Stiverne gets dropped by the journeyman Rossy, Molina gets annihilated by Joshua, Duhaupas gets annihilated by Povetkin, Szpilka gets annihilated by Kownacki, and Washington is probably going to get annihilated by Miller. Worst WBC heavyweight title reign ever?

>>77164606
yeah but you can make an argument that he ruined all those guys just like he will ruin big stiff Joshua if Fury doesn't do it first.

>>77164383
only if he's in a straitjacket

>>77164740

Windmill is ducking Dillian Whyte he's so scared to take a real fight

>>77164740
More like he made them look better than they actually are because he's shite

Parker turned pro four years after Wilder and won his title two years after Wilder, and he has already overtaken him despite holding the less prestigious WBO belt

>>77165086
And Whyte is hardly someone to fear for a truly elite fighter anyway. But he's livelier than the likes of Szpilka and Areola so Wilder shat his breeches

>>77164606
Oh Kownacki won, nice.

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Golovkin already beaten Canelo in style

>>77164740
you'd have to be deluded to make that argument
joshua will embarrass wilder

>>77157979

but will La Famiglia allow it?

such retarded matchmaking, he should have been smashing up Monaghan in Long Island in front of his union buddies

wilder ducked B level whyte and the biggest paycheck of his career

he knows as well as we do he isn't elite

>>77158357
you should know what to search for in google

of course i can't link the shit here

>>77165299
somewhere kathy duva is hiding scared

gooby gonna win

>38-0, 37 KOs

>>77166452
Wilder?

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>>77166219

epic

>>77166452
>>77166491
Meant for >>77165306

>10 rounds fought
>Corrales knocked down 3 times in 2 rounds
>10-8 and 10-7 should be the scores of those rounds
>Cunt judge has the fight scored 96-92 Corrales
>7+8=15 for those two rounds
>even if she gave Corrales every one of the other 8 rounds with 10 points, 80+15=95

And people wonder why boxing is such shit

>>77166723
I really want to see the round-by-round scorecard breakdown for the fight. But this fight isn't high profile enough for the scorecards to be posted on Twitter.

>>77154497
Spizlizka vs Some fat pollack, fat pollack smoked him

Marcus Browne vs Seanie Monaghan. Browne smoked Seanie

Omar Figueroa vs Robert Guerrero. Figueroa retired Guerrero in 3 rounds. Awesome comeback fight for Omar.

All 3 fights ended by KO before the 4th round lol

>>77156116

>If Conor comes at him in karate, thai boxing, kung fu ninja, etc - his bet is it throws Floyd off enough to land some power shots

my sides

>>77165177
LA Noire movie starring GGG and Chocolate Tito when?

>>77166723
Yeah how the fuck did that happen.

Jessie Vargas says that McGoober got KO'd in sparring

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>>77167114
im the one who did it ask me anything

>>77167114

By who?

>>77167144

Hi Paulie

Indongo has no chance against Crawford.

>ywn have an Italian American corner man
That shit was comfy.

>>77167365
guy sounded irish

>>77167255
Crawfords never fought anyone who's had a shot desu

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>>77166814
Found it. Ridiculous.

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>>77167544

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>>77167544
The fuck?

>>77167544
So the blue card judge gave Corrales the 10th round 10-9 in which they fought for 30 seconds.

If he scored it 10-10 it would have been a majority draw and less of a screwjob. Castellanos won the fight so he would still have been robbed by a draw, but it wouldnt be as bad.

96-92 is a fucking joke.

>>77167598
cute!

Who /get too into boxing that they actually want to slug someone in the face irl/ here

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>>77168112
>mfw anon has never been in a fight

>>77166723
No, he got knocked down twice in round 4, meaning she gave 7/10 rounds to Corrales (One 10-8 round), 2/10 to Castillo (One 10-7 round) and scored one round a draw.

>>77168112
not really, I've broken peoples ribs before and ngl that felt good, but generally just knowing I could waste almost anyone if it came down to it is enough, I don't really have an aggressive or confrontational personality

>>77166560
means nothing at all until he starts fighting the real boxers in his division, so he can KO random bouncers with consistency, he hasn't fought a single good fighter

>>77152761

Pretty cool until he ran into Corrie Sanders. Became a bitchmade faggot after that up until the Joshua fight which despite losing, really redeemed him in my eyes.

I think he can win the rematch too and really go out on a hight note despite being one of the most boring hw's of all time

Crawford has a shit resume

>postol
Over hyped, one-dimensional and robotic, only beat a shot Matthysse

>Gamboa
Blown up featherweight

>Ricky burns
Heavily protected, got completely outclassed by indongo, paper champ

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>mfw there are people projecting the Mayweather PPV in the UK will cost around £60

If people purchase this, they actually deserve to be slapped

>>77169362
It is going to cost $100 in the US. No joke.

>>77169397
Although it shouldn't be, that's par for the course over there.

PPV over here generally costs no more than £20

>>77169362
>mfw there are people projecting the Mayweather PPV in the UK will cost around £60

I'll believe it when I see it. Hearn is getting enough backlash for bumping the price from £18 to £20

>>77169353
He's been lineal champ in two divisions and is probably about to become the first undisputed champion since Jermain Taylor in 2005. There's no one that he should have fought but didn't

>>77169673
Belts mean shit, it's who you beat that matters

>>77169731
The lineal championship and undisputed status are not "belts". He has been the true #1 in two divisions, that is a significant accomplishment whatever way you cut it. Even GGG and Ward are not lineal or undisputed

Name someone that Crawford should have fought but didn't

>>77169353
Gamboa was really fucking good, so was Felix Diaz. His resume is miles ahead of anybody at welter right now except for Pacquiao

>>77169801
He fights in a weak division, his resume is bad for a top p4p fighter. He's fought everyone but none of them were very impressive, besides Gamboa but he's a natural featherweight and has accomplished nothing since the defeat

>>77169874
>Gamboa
Blown up featherweight

>Diaz
LOL he lost to Patterson then was given a title shot, tells a story how shit his division is

I missed Jr vs Abraham how'd it go?

>>77169353
Diaz was a gold medalist.

>>77169397
>$160 here
As soon as I can I'm moving to a cheap place in NYC and just spend my free time traveling the city.

>>77169956
Audley Harrison was a gold medalist too

>>77169956
>I missed Jr vs Abraham how'd it go?
too one sided to be entertaining
abraham didn't do shit and jr just tried to be flashy and show off his athleticism

>>77169952
He lost to *Peterson* in a complete robbery which I assume you haven't actually watched

Gamboa was smaller but a tremendous talent that got squandered by bad management.

>>77169927
Abraham stuck in his high guard defense while Chrith loaded up on most of his shots, swinging for the fences all night. Eubank won every round. His power didn't phase Abraham.

>>77169905
Gamboa did at least win an interim title at 135 before facing Crawford. He didn't directly jump two divisions like e.g. Brook did for the Golovkin fight

Crawford's resume is actually pretty similar to Golovkin's in that it's pretty deep but lacking marquee names. The difference is that Crawford is still 29

>>77170010
I'm probably not going to watch it.

How was Jr's gas tank?

>>77170092
fine, he's a great athlete. Just not half the boxer he thinks he is, he missed a lot of wild left hooks that a faster fighter would have punished him for

>>77170067
>Abraham stuck in his high guard defense
Yeah, but that's always been Abrahams style, except nowadays he doesn't have the youth and virility to make it effective.

I never take wins over blown up fighters seriously, that's why I never rate hagler. Always moans about Leonard, hearns and Duran being popular but he expected them to come up from lightweight/welterweight to fight him. Besides his wins over a blown up lightweight and a blown up welterweight his resume is paper thin

>>77170089
Brook fight only happened because canelo and Eubank jr ducked GGG at the time

Name a boxer under the age of 30 with a more solid top five wins than Crawford (Postol, Gamboa, Diaz, Beltran, Burns). Just Thurman and Canelo, probably. Lomachenko for example starts well with Walters and Russell Jr, then drops off a bit with Martinez and Sosa, and then you struggle to name a fifth

>>77164557

Textbook dropkick from Larry

>>77170112
Monzon and Hopkins did the same. There's a strong tradition of welterweight champions moving up to challenge middleweight champions, and falling short. I may be wrong but I don't think the super middleweight division existed when Hagler was around, so he was basically stuck

>>77170198
Does Chocolatito count? Estrada, Viloria, Cuadras, Yaegeshi and Arroyo

>>77170198
Danny Garcia unironically

>>77170198

this is why p4p lists are stupid, the boxing world has changed and big fights are scarcer and more difficult to make, Pacquiao shouldn't be put on for fights he had 8 years ago

>>77170283
>Does Chocolatito count?

Just checked and he's younger than I thought but still out of his 20s. I thought he was 32 for some reason. His resume is strong though, probably behind only Mayweather, Pacquiao, Wlad and Ward. Oh and Jones Jr of course

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>BIG

>>77170397
Go on, one more then

>>77170393
I thought he was slightly older as well.

>>77170397

>OK that's enough Tyson

STIFF

>>77170359
We're just in a transition period. With how good this year has been, I think boxing is on the upswing again. Even Haymon is matching his young stars tough and building stars now. 2016 was the kick up the arse that everyone needed. I also think it's a blessing in disguise that HBO is on the way out. Their audience is too small compared to ESPN, CBS, etc. Showtime has the same problem but at least they are willing to splash the cash

IDIOT

>>77170590
Who are the best prospects that are coming through right now? The 2016 Olympians are too early into their careers to be considered legitimate prospects.

>>77170393
>>77170486
Nicaraguans looks 30 as soon as they hit 18

>>77170727
eddie hearns stable will all be world champs

>>77169353
Thankful, nobody is fucking realizing that Crawford was in a really good place.
>>77169874
Gamboa is miniature next to Crawford and had a year long layoff. He was served to Crawford because he didn't have any standout name in his resume and it was a given that he'd beat gamboa.
Felix Diaz is like a younger gamboa but suffers from being the same height as gamboa as well.
Terence goes on to beat Beltran, a solid gatekeeper and then a literal who in Thomas dulorme, who up until that point sole significant win was against hank Lundy someone who Terence would go on to beat as well.

Makes no sense why people are calling Crawford p4p1 when his opposition is all highly questionable

>>77169962
>cheap place in NYC
Good luck mate, you'll be paying 2k a month.

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What country do you think has the most STIFFS per capita?

For me, it's Latvia.

>>77170790
>he didn't have any standout name in his resume
Didn't he beat Salido and Ponce de Leon? Pretty sure those are bigger names than Crawford had at that point.

>>77166919
Chocolate Tito needs to learn English first. Or maybe we can get someone to dub his voice

>>77170826
>Breidis
In Europe it's probably Lithuania or Hungary. I suppose the amount of dollarydoos you'd make to pad some British hype job's record goes a long way over there.

>>77170884
Is it because they are poor, or is it in their genetics to be big and stiff?

That's the important question.

>>77170839
Gamboa was served to Crawford because Crawford didn't have any standout names on his resume. Sorry should've made that more clear

>>77170826

Hungary without question

Lazlo Papp is turning in his grave

>>77152510

No shit. Even when those fights were made anyone with any sense knew they were payadays for Guerrero, Ortiz, and Berti.

>>77165177
Kinda looks like Cillian Murphy in Peaky Blinders.

>>77170925
Well, Lazlo Papp was a 3x gold medalist so it's not like they're completely devoid of talent.

I've always found it curious that it's really a handfull of countries that produce a plethora of journeymen while other countires that neighbour them have absolutely no presence in boxing at all.

>>77170727
Have eyes on:
Lawrence Okolie
Reece Bellotti
Callum Johnson
Josh Kelly

>>77171068

I think that there's some kind of pipeline from certain "gyms", do sham fights to build up your record and wait for the call from Eddie or Frank

from what I've seen in Spain the level of boxing is relatively low but every win and loss seems to be honest and hard fought

>>77171163
Hope you're not memeing me here, lad.

>>77171305
Are you Spanish or British?

>>77170823
Can't I just go live in a ghetto? just cause the hood looks bad doesn't mean I can't live like a king behind closed doors.

>>77171345
I was, they're all the next hypejobs.

>>77171345
>>77171384
Josh Taylor is the real deal

>>77171375
What ghetto? You'd have to venture to the far reaches of the city to reach the ghetto, putting you 1.5 hours away from something like Times Square.

All we have in this city is affordable housing that's reserved for people who make less than 29k a year or for people who are homeless. The few actual ghetto places that aren't in buttfuck nowhere are being plundered by developers and also the shit stains that used to live there won't ever give up their lease. They pass that down generations(no this is not an exaggeration)

>>77171345

British

>>77171499
So if I really wanted to live in NYC what would be the best area? Not the safest or cheapest but the nicest to look at and be in.

>>77170727
Erickson Lubin, David Benavidez, Justin DeLoach, Andrew Tabiti, Regis Prograis, Tramaine Williams, Rob Brant, Ryan Martin, Rashidi Ellis, Marcus Browne, JoJo Diaz, Frankie Gomez, Jose Carlos Ramirez and Julian Rodriguez are some American prospects who are yet to challenge for world titles but should be stepping onto the world scene relatively soon. I only mentioned Americans since they're the least likely to be hypejobs

Surprised this hasn't been posted yet. Chris Eubank Sr. on The True Geordie podcast.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iq9EXu4znFA

>>77171531
Depends on what kind of guy you are. You can move to Astoria queens because you'll have fast access to manhattan. You can move to Bedstuy Brooklyn because it has some beautiful old buildings and history. You can move to bushwick brooklyn if you're under 30 years old and want to fuck some ez pussay. You can move to the LES if you want to think you're really cool and have money to blow.

There are many different faces to this city all unique and interesting

>>77171560
The only one I've heard of is Lubin lel I guess I'm casual as fuck.

You are now imagining what Mike Tyson's career/life could've been if Cus D'Amato had lived another 10 years or so.

>>77171598
woulda been the undisputed heavyweight GOAT for sure

>>77171560
BTW, where do you go to find decent prospects?

>>77171636
Most of those guys I just read about in the news or on forums or saw on undercards, but since about 2013 I've been following the amateurs more closely and generally discover prospects there first. The Americans turn pro young so you usually just see them in the Junior and Youth World Championships and read about the results of the annual National Golden Gloves (I don't think they are livestreamed)

Some Americans I've found this way who are less developed than the others I mentioned are Shakur Stevenson, Devin Haney, Money Powell IV, Teofimo Lopez, Antonio Vargas, Carlos Balderas, Ruben Villa, Darmani Rock, Richardson Hitchins, Marcus Carter, Dylan Price and three who are yet to turn pro in Delante Johnson, Marc Castro and Quinton Randall

If you create a BoxRec account you can add fighters to a Watchlist and keep tabs on them

>>77171717
>If you create a BoxRec account you can add fighters to a Watchlist and keep tabs on them
Good idea, thanks.
I'm watching Ryan Martin right now and I'm very impressed. Can't really put too much into these early career fights but he's a very good combination puncher with good speed. He just needs to handle all that facial acne.

>>77171623
Agreed. His incredible natural physical ability and skill, coupled with the disciplined work ethic and humility that Cus instilled in him, made him a near-perfect fighter.

It's tragic, really. Still it's nice to see that he's regained some of his earlier tranquility in his old age. He seems to be doing well for himself.

>>77171598

still would've lost to Lewis and Holyfield

>>77171788
not a chance

>>77171823

Lewis from 97 was too big and skilled

>>77169962
>cheap place
>NYC

You've been watching to many reruns of Friends, buddy. You will pay 2,000 minimum to live in a shoebox in the outer boroughs surrounded by niggers.

Thats not even factoring in cost of living which is insane since everything in NYC is literally 4x the price of anywhere else.

I can tell you are a teenager as well by the fact that you think you will spend your time "travelling the city". New York is dull as fuck and its filled with nothing but jews, niggers, spics, arabs, and white hipster douchebags.

>>77153491

You big stiff Tesco cashier from Norwich. I'd do you some serious harm.

>>77171788
>>77171856
Tyson was in the midst of drug and alcohol addiction at that point of his life, he was high on coke even at the pressers for the Lewis fight.

>>77171901
Traveling the city is fun as fuck especially for the first time. Living my entire life here I've pretty much been everywhere. Now it's not so much about the trip but the destination. Tons of great places to go to and enjoy yourself depending on what you're looking for.

Yes we are a multicultural city. If you think it's dull as fuck the only reason is because you're full as fuck. You only get out what you put in. Put a loser in an awesome city and he's still a loser

>>77171946
Nigger I'm from Hell's Kitchen and NYC is dull as shit. It might be fun for a numale skate faggot like yourself to go around and do faggoty shit, but for adults, its a sanitized shithole where only the very poor or the very rich can live anymore.

90s New York was fucking great, New York today is a fucking joke.

>>77171901
>Starts off with valid criticism then derails into /pol/ autism

Idiot

>>77172062
I guess I'm a numale I'm 25.

>go around and do faggoty shit
This is code for "I don't leave my house and have no friends so whatever you do is gay"

I agree 90's New York was badass but even up until 2007 my area was still legit as fuck.

>only the very poor or the very rich can live anymore
Or people who are willing to live with roommates. People do that too.

Quit being upset that you're a loser and blaming an awesome city.

>>77170167
Who cares?
Doesn't change the fact that his resume is as good/worse than Crawford's.

>>77172237
Jacobs >>>>>>>>>>>> shit>>>>>>>>> postol

>>77172283
I can say stupid shit that's objectively false too, look:

>Golovkin is a better boxer than Canelo.

>>77171912
still bad match-ups for tyson's style

>Jeff Horn is the no. 8 p4p best fighter in the world
What did BoxRec mean by this?

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people complaining about the odds on money vs mcgreg
>you'd have to put 600$ down on mayweather just to make 100$!
oh wow. you have to put a deposit down on your free money. that is 100$ free and clear for a temporary investment.
>the odds for mcgreg arent even 30 to 1
why the fuck would you even bother wasting a 20 on that?

reminder
http://www.hbo.com/boxing/fights/2017/09-09-srisaket-sor-rungvisai-vs-roman-gonzalez/index.html

lets get a year in review going lads. worst parts of it and the best parts.
>worst
kovalev being robbed twice
the sham of canelo vs chavez
pac man getting robbed
>best
chocolatito vs neeesh
vlad vs joshua actually living up to the hype
lemiuex still has a right hand like a cinder block
ggg canelo got announced
miura's fight before this one

>>77172831
>Chocolatito getting robbed in a decision
>best

>>77172979
NEEEEESH took that fight by bravely subjecting his body to more severe punishment and he's gonna take it again

>>77173024
Rungvisai got gifted a decision by making loud noises during exchanges (that he was consistently losing), repeated headbutts that meant Choco's face was covered in blood at the end of every round, and by putting on theatrical displays for the judges.

He clearly lost the boxing, and CompuBox stats showed as much.

>>77173024
Nigga no. The wbc said they order the rematch coz the useless judges didn't take in to account the organization rules and scored the fight like shit.

>>77173114
>using CompuBox to judge a fight

Lol

>>77173132
I didn't use CompuBox to judge the fight. I judged the fight based on what I saw. CompuBox merely confirmed what was already evident watching the fight. The stats were correct.

>>77173148
>>>/Reddit/

>>77173191
>everyone who disagrees with me is reddit
Nice non-argument.

>>77173114
no I agree. the headbutts are what caused the damage.
the NEEEEESH was dramatic.
and the way his body convulsed when he landed a punch was theatrical.
>nigga that shit worked on me though and I loved that fight. super entertaining.
also come on we all thought we were just gonna watch choco tee off on this guy while dancing circles around him. but that thai nigger just waded in and fucking threw hands. admit that it wasn't one sided and that you were impressed by NEEEESH.
I agree with your assessment of the fight overall though. but as far as the robberies and outright lies that we have seen this year. not so bad. I was surprised they gave it to NEEEESH but in my heart it was 70/30 and I secretly wanted him to get his hand raised.

god damn this has been a fun year for boxing. all the outright bogus sham stuff has actually come completely around and made it fun.
>conor works the crowd and judges the same way pretending to be rocky and the judges give it to mcgreg
truly the best timeline

>>77173211
Casual

I'm just so happy for Figueroa lads.

Truly he seems to be one of the best guys in the sport, returns from an injury plagued layoff and consistently gets into absolute barn burner of fights. It's always sad to see a great fighter like Guerrero go out but at least he went out to someone like Omar. If he can get in better shape and stay healthy I truly think he could be a title holder at 140. And if he could manage to get Crawford in the phonebooth....anything could happen.

>>77171636
I found a guy on Ig wich style remind me chavas. You can find interesting guys there

>McGregor knocked out in sparring

That's it. Bet the house on him.

>>77173306
post your betting slip

>>77173243
I agree with what you're saying. The fight was definitely entertaining, and I was surprised that Rungvisai put up such a good fight, I just think Choco clearly done what was necessary to win. Any enjoyment I had turned sour when I heard the result. It wasn't an outright robbery, the fight was definitely competitive, but Gonzalez seemed too far ahead for me to enjoy the decision.

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>>77173306
Didn't he have a "good chin"

>>77173335
>good chin
>I've only watched like 3 of his fights
>he always gets wobbled and dropped
>we're talking about at most 50 punches thrown over the entire duration of the fight

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VZruYquLLU

Where were you when McGregor named the Jew?

>>77173358
I have 0 knowledge in connor career but I thought that he best asset was his chin

>>77173474
I'm reading about him in another thread and they said he got knocked out cold in sparring for one of his previous MMA fights as well.

Conor's best asset is probably his reach and his ability to drain weight. We're talking about 30 pounds gained in 30 hours. That's some Rios vs. Bradley rehydration (except Conor is actually good at his sport). Once he's fighting people his size he's less good.

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>GOLOVKEEEN JEW ARE NEX MY FREN

>>77173448
I cannot fucking stand Seckbach. He's the most annoying person in combat sports media.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OEMDHqt8rw
remember this crackhead?

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>>77173553
Good luck in September

>>77173697
I loved that interview. He's doing it for the money, and he believes he'd be good if it weren't for the 1 day notice.

Parker didn't look good in that fight either.

>>77173725
dude why is he dressed like that

>>77172831
>kovalev being robbed twice

Kovalev has only fought once in 2017, and if you have any eyes you'd be able to see he wasn't robbed.
Even if you for some strange reason believe that Ward's ONE low blow during the entire fight is the sole reason the fight was stopped (absurd idea) you should still be able to see that Kovalev was done. He was crying about perfectly legitimate body shots (http://i.imgur.com/y5zrdwy.gifv), stumbling all over the place, barely trying to protect himself, eating a lot of shots, and was out of stamina.

Face it, Kovalev was beaten through and through.

>>77173553
You wish you drug hustling potato farmer.

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>>77173746
Promo

>Floyd, if you win this fight, what does it feel like to have an asterisk next to your record?
>wtf is an asterisk?

What the hell is with black fighters and not knowing English?

I remember watching AJ's post fight interviews and it happened multiple times where he said "I don't know what ___ means"

>>77173800
>ONE low blow
the fuck outta here. I mean I agree. Kova was trying to get the ref to take a point. or at least curry some favor. its on him. that was some stupid bullshit to pull and I think he was at least trying to get a break.
But that fight was an abysmal failure of refereeing.
>I wont stop the fight for repeated low blows Im gonna allow anything to go and let them bang out
>oh no he's hesitating I should stop this fight
its either one or the other. its like how they rig the NBA. just completely subjective about the fouls they call and do not call.
that fight was complete bullshit.
and lets say youre right. even then the fight shouldn't have been stopped. but thats what you get for fighting in vegas.
the second that cunt of a ref was able to give the outcome everyone wanted in the US he jumped on his chance to do it.
>man robs bank in front of cop in broad daylight, then goes on to mug 3 other people on the street and finally carjacks someone and speeds off
>guy jaywalks across the street to inform the cop of what just happened in front of him
>"jaywalking is a serious crime buddy, youre going away for a long time"
fuck you for enabling shit like that

>>77173970
The reporter was speaking horribly bad English. No one in the room could understand him.

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>>77173982
>But that fight was an abysmal failure of refereeing.

Give me a photo of low blows other than the very last punch. Even the one Weeks warned Ward about wasn't a low blow, it was a legal shot on the belt line.
If anything thank god Weeks was observant enough to see Kovalev whine about shots that didn't even come close to his nuts.

You guys who keep complaining about low blows in the match haven't even rewatched it to say there were any, you're just going off of knee jerk reactions and what other people have told you. Get pictures of all the shots you think were low blows, i'm willing to bet that in the process of trying to do so you'll realize that there weren't any more than the one.

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>>77174052
>How Kovalev fans saw the ending of Ward-Kovalev 2

>>77174052
no I agree. a lot of those shots kova was trying to get called where phantom bullshit.
its his fault for trying to get a break. but there were at least 2 low blows. and a lot more questionable/borderline punches once ward saw the lower body as viable.
but that fight shouldn't have been stopped. at all. that was bullshit. If youre not gonna be sensitive about what could be low blows. how the fuck are you gonna jump the gun and call a fight when a dude is mildly gassed and taken a bit of hurt?
that fight was bullshit for being called early. thats the robbery. there is no way that fight should have been called. I mean some refs let a guy die out there and there has to be a balance. I get that.
but that stoppage was complete bullshit.

>>77174134
Again, if you're going to claim there was more than one lowblow, get me the screenshots.

The stoppage was fine, it completes every check box needed to stop a bout.

>Kovalev responding very visibly to every body punch (To the point of crying low blows)
>Had been gassed for multiple rounds
>Stumbling all over the place due to fatigue and damage to the body
>Barely able to defend himself, especially not at the time of the stoppage where he was hunched over and no defending his head or throwing back punches
>Refused to take a knee, which forces Tony Weeks' hand, making it so that his only two choices are to let him take more of a beating (When at the end he was completely defenseless) or to stop the fight.

It's definitely not a bad stoppage, there were enough reasons for him to stop it. Calling it a robbery is just giving more excuses for Kovalev who already is making a thousand different excuses himself (Low Blows, Conditioning, Mental State, Early Stoppage) and there have been FAR worse stoppages in history.

>>77151990
They are on their way to Snap City

>>77174118
What was Golota's end game?

Also I thought he won against ruiz and byrd tbqh

>>77154358
What is a stag party mate?

>>77174736
I think its like a bachelor party. like no girls allowed except for strippers.

>>77174857
Nice

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Your ibo world champion ladies and gentlemen

>>77174976
He's world champion, period. IBO is the only belt that matters.

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>>77175135

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>Kov said he would break Ward's arms if he ever tried to clinch

hmm

>>77173249

Can only fight inside. Crawford stops him.
So does Matthysse

>>77156116
>>77156152
More reddit delusion

Size- MCgregor is more than half an inch taller. I dont think this will come in to paly anyway, but he is more like 2 inches taller. More importantly, his wing span was a bit longer as well, giving him the reach advantage. (Again, probably not super important.)

Distance - Its really hard to compare the range of a fighter in MMA vs what he should or probably will do in boxing. While Nate isnt known for his wrestling or kicks, he still might do that, and so the fights took place in a more traditional MMA range which is a hybrid between wrestling and kickboxing range, just outside leg span distance. If Connor brings this to the ring, it will be a little different. Something boxing heads arent seeming to get the most is just because something sounds like it shouldnt work, doesnt mean it cant. For example, people keep saying "ah he has to get dirt. hes gotta bumb rushg floyd and try to land a lucky shot" but the thing is, thats what all of floyds opponents have been trying to do. So why would connor try that? What connor brings to the table is something else, and if boxers cant figure floyd out, maybe something completely foreign, nontraditional, and not necessarily practical could do the trick such as awkward distance and stance. Also, Nate and Floyd arent similar in output or in style. Floyd likes to wait, and then stick when its the perfect time. Where as nate, the bigger man, is known for a constant barrage of accurate little shots that slowly take the opponent down, which seemed to be Mcgregors cryptonite. So far in MMA , we havent seen Connor be stuck by something like what Floyd throws, and so comparing nate to floyd in that way isnt pointful. Nate style worked because of the height and reach advantage.

>>77176763
You also covered Conditioning here. In diaz 1, Connor gassed mostly because he was throwing tornado kicks and shit like that. Before that fight, he hadnt seen much adversity and was willing to throw strikes that cost a ton of energy, because he didnt expect to go late in the fight. That coupled with the jib jab birrage of nate, and debuting at 170 (which stripped him of a ton of conditioning leading into the fight) lead to Connor gassing.

In DIaz 2, there was more clinch work and wrestling, which I dont know if you ever trained in boxing or mma, but 1 round of wrestling and hand fighting in the clinch is SOO much more grueling than anything else. Connors arm dexterity is something that will need to be worked on but as far as his actual gas tank goes, he will most likely be fine in the ring.

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>>77176772
Stance- Like I said earlier, It wouldnt work by anyone else, or against anyone else, but a very accurate, powerful, and well timed (for mma standards) bigger man with a super foreign stance vs someone not known for their output or power, could be interesting. Connor isnt going to come out and stand just in a Karate stance, in fact, I bet he switches stance 5 times in the first minute. The reason I say that is because Its very tempting. When MMA fighters go up against specialists in training, its common for them to do this to throw off their opponent. Karate techniques dont work in boxing for the most part, but Connor might be able to mix them in at unpredictable times and from awkward angles that might do something. If he goes from TKD to karate throwing a step in 1 , 2 and then quickly adjusts to boxing, and then out to Muay Thai while mixing in traditional and untraditional strikes, he will probably get fucked up, unless he doesnt. the main point is its something different, and something different is what a lot of boxers do not bring. I got the feeling that Connor was hinting at this when he stood in a capoeira stance during their face off. A little "I bet you dont know what this is" type of thing. Again, The most important thing is It porbably ont work, but it is something different. IF you're expecting Connor to go out their and stand in a karate stance, and just stand around and expect to counter with karate counters, and strike with karate strikes and nothing else, you dont know what MMA is all about.

>Those last few lines. My sides are in orbit

>>77176776
A-side B_Side shit - I dont give a shit. Honestly dont even know why this is a discussion. Is this a big deal in boxing? Floyd.

Clinch- Boxing vs MMA. While of course they are different, you have to give credit where credit is due. MMA isnt just barbaric meat heads trying to fuck eachother, its art and science, and ultimate skill. Connors clinch game is lightyears ahead of floyds. The issue is you cant do much in clinch in boxing, but Connor can disguise trips and shoves in that stance easily. Think about when you wrestle around with a little cousin or something. You can step between his feet and have him topple over because you're the better grappler. Connor can make Floyd mess up in clinch if he wants to, and the ref cant penalize Floyds mistake. This is honestly an advantage that people dont want to admit. Connor is actually the superior here, and might be able to do something interesting, though it certainly wouldnt be fight ending.

Another note - MMA fighters fight under boxing rules with boxing gloves all the time. This isnt his first time doing this, and he isnt unexperienced. In fact, a very common training method of MMA fighters is to fight a specialist in their area, Rolling with the JJ guys, wrestling the wrestlers, and boxing the boxers. Connor has more experience boxing boxers than Floyd has boxing MMA fighters. Of course thats not super important becaus ethe boxers are just better boxers, but it takes a little while for Boxers to adapt to the range. Check out Vasyl sparring with TJ if you havent already. I know you cant get much out of a sparring video but you do see Vasyl needing to adjust to it, because its foreign. If TJ had Connors power, itd be interesting for a minute or two.

The main thing is Floyd hasnt been exploited yet, so lets wait and see what happens. What Connor brings to the table might not be traditionally ideal, but neither is what boxers have brought, so lets see if something different is can be the cryptonite.

Kubrat Pulev

>>77151990
it's honestly felt like years since i laughed at something from this place

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Who's the greatest boxer of all time and why is it Conor McGregor?

>>77176845
Vasyl Lomachenko

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>>77176776
>If he goes from TKD to karate throwing a step in 1 , 2 and then quickly adjusts to boxing, and then out to Muay Thai while mixing in traditional and untraditional strikes, he will probably get fucked up, unless he doesnt.

Hey,

I got a question, I wanna get back to boxing but there's something I'm afraid of : brain damages.
I did 2 years of Thai boxing already, then stopped for a few years and recently I was being interested to coming back.
The thing is I started to inquiry about brain damages, just to be sure you know, but every single time the question has been asked on a forum or whatever the answer always was : "Just don't spar too much/hard and don't go on the ring".
Okay so what ? Just heavy bag work ?
I don't wanna have hard times to do algebra in 5 years because I wanted to do a sport I love.
Is it that bad ? Is there a fighting sport I can do that is not risky for the brain ? I was thinking about wrestling or grappling.

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>>77176847
Gennady Golovkin

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>>77177013

>>77176845
>Connor greatest boxer
ToP Kek

Here in so cal a couple weeks ago allot of the boxing gyms were saying Connor got KO in sparring. Now it's come to light that Brandon Rios was the one to KO. Rios denies of course but it bet Floyd payed him to shut the fuck up about it. So I do believe Rios fucked up Connor.

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>>77176845
> greatest boxer
> Conor McGregor

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>>77177008
what? you just go light. you can still spar. tell the guy you wanna go whatever percent. go light. wear headgear. heavy gloves.
like everyone else said. dont go too hard in the ring.
the brain damage thing is for sustained, however many hours a week in the ring taking hits at full force. you'll be fine.
if you get your bell rung lay off for a week or 2.
but really if youre just doing it for fitness and fun why spar at all? I hated getting my ass kicked all the time. I spar maybe twice a year. and thats just out of boredom because someone begs me.
pads and bags are all you really need anyways.
>worried about concussions
wait until you catch a fucking liver shot off some asshole just trying to drop you.
a fucking LIVER SHOT is like someone just dumping an entire bag of quick dry cement into your circulatory system. you honestly feel your body shutting down in increments until youre frozen and unable to move. and be sure to go to your knees when that happens because dudes will light you up while your fucking dazed and struggling to move. Body shots are the reason not to get in the ring.

Now a real question
>How much of a faggot am I for wanting my own silk boxing robe and when if ever would it be appropriate to wear it
jokes on you Im fucking getting one. Im sure I could take it to a place and get a design or lettering thrown on it. they are cheaper than an NFL jersey. might as well.

also another question
>whats your boxing name? and walk out music
>anon "___________" anonymous

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>>77177157
Not hard to believe, even in the short clips floating around he looks like complete ass. Is he training out in Cali or what?

>>77177237
I'd unironically love to see him try and throw that bolo punch against Mayweather, would be so funny to see Mayweather time it perfectly and drill McGregor with a straight right to the nose

>>77174421

I have a theory that he was punishing Bowe's team for jumping him and causing the riot in the first fight, knowing that the extra security would stop them from doing anything this time. To him that was more important than winning the fight.

>>77177291

He'll probably try some meme moves he's buying into his own hype

>>77151990
why

>>77154035
We're reaching Peak MMA.

MMA fans seem to be absolutely convinced that no one in boxing can punch properly, and the UFC is full to the brim with top strikers.

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How badly does McGregor look against Gennady Golovkin?

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>people unironically think Wilder isn't sending Joshua to the shadowrealm

anyone know where to find the miura-berchelt card with hbo commentary?

>>77178209
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdammDXl-8U

>A FUCKING DRUNK OCTOPUS

/comfy/ lads
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iq9EXu4znFA

Boxing sucks cock, stupid fucking /asp/ tier sport for nigger tier retards

>>77178627
you need a cuddle lad

>>77178636
I'd be big spoon considering all boxing fans are manlets

>>77178627

>/pol/ comes to terms with the karate kid getting beat up

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>>77178627
bruh you just have to embrace it and love it and hate it at the same time
boxing is fucking shameful dead sport that deserves nothing but derision and doesnt deserve our money or attention
but every year there is a fight that either lives up to the hype or just comes on outta nowhere, some undercard thing with nothing but heart and skill and bravery. and once you develop an eye for it you can be much more appreciative of what goes on in the ring.
its like golf. you'll hate the entire day but you have that one good shot that makes up for everything else and keeps you coming back.

I missed Berchelt-Miura. How was it?

>>77178935
Berchelt outboxed him pretty comfortably. Scoring one flash knockdown and wobbled him once. I think his defence still looked pretty suspect though and would favour Loma and Davis to beat him

>>77177912
Goodbye Canelo

>>77178935
Berchelt was dominate through most of the fight but Miura came back in the later rounds. It looks worse on paper due to one crackhead of a judge.