/f1/ Formula 1 General - Burgers explain us Indycar Edition

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His year

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2nd for /team Flörsch/

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>>75681441
HIS YEARS

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3rd for pork tenderloins

>>75681425

Lawn dart nose is still ugly

What will Alonso's "sponsor name onboard camera" be called?

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7th for helmet of the year

Excellently timed break

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>>75681469
More like a platypus nose.
Dart nose would look much better.

>>75681474
honda

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>reminder that when Alonso first joined Honda we was living his weeb dream

Then it all went very wrong :DDDDDDDDDDDDD

>>75681478
ah, advertising his karting school

he wants to kill more kids then

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>>75681478
so nice to see him supporting Billy Monger

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>>75681441
>>75681453
red 5 standing by

221 M P H

>>75681496

CART cars are the toughest looking racecars ever.

>then Tony George ruined everything

>221.5
wew

>alonso gets andretti's head engineer
michael really hates marco doesn't he

>>75681496
I've never seen an MP4/4 that looks like that before

>>75681507
he just wants them to kum in karts ;_;

juan pablo are you ITT?

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>>75681545
I agree, they're vicious looking.
>>75681558
Marco rarely has a chance anyway.

>>75681558

More a Honda thing imo.

Andretti has been Honda's bitch from the minute he started his own team, so naturally Honda's meme driver gets the best of everything.

>>75681592
lmao Honda doesn't get to decide inner team stuff. Ganassi are the big boys at Honda now anyway

>>75681590
Indy is marco's best track

>>75681558
It's his first time in charge of strategy for a single car though, a lot different from being in charge of everything at the shop.

>>75681631
ah I see

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSpLpDWGX_c

Vettee's finger uncensored, at the end of the video

>>75681602
>Honda doesn't get to decide inner team stuff

I didn't say it was Honda's decision.

Mikey wants to keep Honda happy because he's Honda's bitch.
So naturally all the best engineers and equipment is going to go to the Honda meme driver/car.

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>>75681671

slowpoke.jpg

>pit road

If Pippa Mann can figure out the procedures of a race I think Fernando Alonso will be fine

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>>75681700
feels a bit rude desu

>>75681726
>If Milka Duno can figure out most of the procedures of a race I think Fernando Alonso will be fine

FTFY

>>75681700
it seems like he could easily get by massa here

>>75681671
>The Best Onboard Action
>lap 1
>skips to lap 39
>skips to lap 52

i want to get off russia's wild ride

>>75681755
>Milka Duno
I'm not sure she exactly figured it out

>>75681770

Read it again, m8 :^)

best lap so far?

>>75681700
don't bully!

I'm just excited to see mother fucking alonso in a car that can finish a race.

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just gonna post that here in argentina we also have those kind of sandwiches, they are quite tasty.

those front tyres are the exact opposite of t h i c c

fuck drag, throw on a front wheel fairing. i wanna see maximum grip

Reminder that this is all about Alonso's fragile ego

>be Alonso
>less championships than Hamilton
>less championships than Vettel
>couldn't bring Ferrari back to greatness
>couldn't bring McLaren/Honda back to greatness
>worried about muh place in history
>imma win the triple crown!!!!


Also reminder that Alonso is 1/3, and Montoya is 2/3 in the triple crown.

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>tfw you're not american

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>>75681841

The skinny fronts are good though because they make he rears look more THICC
>like pic related

Unfortunately they have those retarded fairings so you can't see the rear tyres...

Oh shit rear wicker is off

Alonso is going into the wall

>>75681838
In Turkey, we have bacon burgers and they're tastier.

>>75681875
make them wide but short, instead of tall and skinny

>small lip on rear wing
>European name: Gurney flag
>American name: wickerbill
>Dan Gurney was American

You can't explain that.

>>75681906
>flag

*flap

>>75681891

That's a bit HARAM, m8.

>>75681855
these days Montoya cares more about triple burgers

222.5 lads

>>75681456

looks tasty af

>>75681786
see
>>75681952

>>75681891
until caliph erdogan bans it

>>75681948

I'm crossing my fingers he does it just to cuck Alonso.

And he only has to win LeMans, which is arguable the easiest to do.

>>75681976
Highest top speed wins? Nice sport you got there Mexico

>>75681996
Average speed

>>75681996
that isn't top speed

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NO
EXPENSE
SPARED

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>>75681978
>>75681944
>mention alcohol/bacon
>get those sweet (You)s
Like clockwork

>>75682013
kek, the fire suit is nice at least

>>75682001
>>75682004
cars going fast yea

>>75682022

I hope the >(You)s are worth being decapitated, m8.

Pretty sure Erdogan won't accept the "I was just memeing" defence.

>yeah they're messing with the car it looks like
Outstanding report

>>75682035
That's what racing is you shit. Average speed = time/distance, it's no different than lap times

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Does Indyccar have their own Ted knocking about in the pit area during the race?

>>75682105
they have Will Buxton

>>75682035
keep me updated yeah

>>75682105
Indy used to have Will Buxton for that

Why isn't he wearing is usual helmet?

>>75682088
If you don't shit yourself what is the point in bragging. Look at this guy. What a chump. What a goober. Step up your game friend and report back when you feel gravy in your socks

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>>75682037
Actually, Erdoğan memes are pretty big here. I don't know why media is portraying him like literally Hitler (remind you of someone?), they were all sucking him only 5 years ago.

>>75682068
You can go faster and still have slower laptime, it depends on your lines. Some might do 2.501 miles, others might do 2.499 miles. They're pretty close, but not interchangeable.

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>>75682119
>>75682129

>>75682105
Robin Miller.
An old fart, but an alright guy to listen to lately.

>>75682139
I think for distance they just use the 2.5 mi figure for the track for consistency, though I'm not 100% sure on that

>>75682173

>reminder that "500 miles" is measured on the outside wall
>reminder that due to the the SAFER barrier the race is technically only 497.5 miles

did alonslow drive the oval yet? If not anyone got a link to a stream?

>>75682228
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXh9uxthFnk

we're basically all waiting for him to touch the wall so we can greentext right?

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>>75682224
>distance not measured on racing line
to smart for the indy 500

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>>75682260
*waiting for him to do a monger

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>>75682260
basically yes. Got a thread ready to go already.

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>>75682260

I'm waiting for him to get sideways and put in a dab of oppo :^)

>>75682246
thanks lad

>>75682260
This is either laugh at Nando for being shit or Indycar for being a joke that anyone can turn up & win. Either way laughs all over

>>75682303

We pretty much can't lose.

>>75682105
is that an asian craig slater?

>>75682289
F

>>75682260
yep but he's done now

>>75682303
It'll be the latter, they're running so much downforce that people with full time jobs can show up without training and be midfield.

Alonso looks pretty into this stuff. It's great to see him actually enjoying.

>>75681762
He's complaining about a previous corner where Massa took a pretty tight racing line despite not fighting for position with anyone

>>75682331
The car makes the biggest difference at Indy.
You either have a wonderful time driving 230mph or a miserable time driving 215mph hoping you don't spin and hit the wall.

>>75682224
>>75682269
Actually the track is 2.6 mi along the outside wall

>all McLaren F1 had to do was paint their car plain orange
>they failed at that
>didn't even use the correct shade of orange

>possible rain at 2pm local
they might be done for the day

>>75682269
they measure tracks along the centreline, not the racing line

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Don't know about you lads but I've got my collection of Speed Racer screencaps ready for when Alonso is doing well and ((they)) are getting mad.

>>75682415
I like it

>indycar doesn't have taylor swift

how will they recover?

>>75682431
Yeah that's 20 min from now so probably. Press conference should be soon

HUEHUEHUEHUE

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>>75682444
pls no bully

>>75681700
he could've got passed, but would have lost the hap to bo77as either way which is why he was pissed

>>75682435
Is this worth watching

>>75682289
F

>>75682474
Yes.

>>75682434
not necessarily the center line
they measure from a certain distance from the outside retaining wall

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>we ran out of tyres

>>75682507
They're called tires here

>>75682507
This isn't an open test, they have to follow the Rookie orientation rules, which limits the amount of tires allotted. I'd assume most of the tires are still usable if they want to test the feeling of a late stint with old tires.

>>75682518
nice

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>>75681764
reminds me of this

IT'S A JAPANESE HONDA GUY

GET HIM AWAY

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>>75682518
>tfw two tired for indy 500

>>75682289
I bet he wasn't so smiley after that

>>75682537
For real don't let him near the car

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>>75682494
maybe the indycar governing body does that, but the FIA explicitly specify it has to be equal distance from the inside and the outside white boundaries of the track

they used to measure it by (outside of track+inside of track)/2 but that meant the centreline of something like pic related (just for a grossly exaggerated example of how track width changes at some circuits) would be a lot shorter than that

>>75682590
I'm talking about ovals
Road/Streets have to be measured as you describe

>>75682534
if 2016 is a floppy disk, what would 2015 be?

Damn I thought we were gonna get shots of nando holding a JJ sandwich for a second. Fuck

>>75682575
his smile was so wide it covered the entire width of the track

>>75682618
punchcard

>>75682224

Actually, Indycar measures track length 3 feet from the bottom/inside edge of the track. This way Indy is exactly 2.5 miles long, even if it screws up their length measurements at every other circuit.

>>75682663
correct
Indy measures from the apron up
NASCAR measures from the outside wall down

>>75682618
punch card

>>75682616
>>75682663
>ARBITRARY RETARDED ROLLERCOASTER

Have you guys considered how the location of the moon affects the track measurement?

>>75682638
wew

>>75682710

Don't get me started on the autism of the elevation difference between the different ends of Indy

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When it is a hot day and the track surface expands, does the length of a lap increase?

>>75682289
>While rushing to the car, I noticed small splotches of a peculiar gray substance marking a trail on the asphalt leading up to the driver. When I reached the car, I was shocked to see that Smiley's helmet was gone, along with the top of his skull. He had essentially been scalped by the debris fence. The material on the race track was most of his brain. His helmet, due to massive centrifugal force, was literally pulled from his head on impact...I rode to the care center with the body. On the way in I performed a cursory examination and realized that nearly every bone in his body was shattered. He had a gaping wound in his side that looked as if he had been attacked by a large shark. I had never seen such trauma.

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>tfw the no-downforce-when-slipstreaming meme cars didn't happen

>>75682808
the moral of the story is never turn right

>>75682956
Look what happened to Senna, to Jules

Once you stop turning left you may as well be dead

>>75683002
If Schumacher turned left, he would not have fell onto the rock

Too late;didn't watch on Alonso's indy test?

Justin Wilson should have turned right

>>75683055
car looks nice, he went in circles a few times

>>75683082
Nah, Sage Karam just shouldn't have turned right.

>>75683055
Passed rookie orientation, didn't take her into the wall, fastest avg lap speed 222.55 mph

>>75683225
>fastest avg lap speed 222.55 mph
is this a good average for turnleft?

>>75683234
Pay taxes

>>75683234
it would've qualified him 32nd last year, but it is decent for rookie orientation

>>75683093
>>75683225
Is that good?
I no nothing when it comes to no right turns, I never got on the Scott Dixon hype train

>>75683234
Quite good for his first time. Pretty close to race pace, Pole last year was 230.7 4 lap average. I assume with more tuning and practice they will get much closer to that, Alonso seems to have done his homework (watched ~25 Indy 500s, ran simulators, and now getting some good testing time in)

Alonso's car back out, with mysteriously new tires. Already cheating, wonder which teammate he's instructed to crash on lap 180.

>>75683055
They are still going.

>>75682638
>Finland wins once
>proceeds to ebin shitpost for the reminder of the month
I laughed tho, see you fuckers in hell.

Alonso getting back out on track soon

>>75683364
They turn the boost up for qualifying, what he's running now is good race pace

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>>75682468
>Literal westcuck itasha
What team would be the 1st to put Migu on f1? red bull?

>>75683459
sauber, in a desperate grab for a few thousand dollars

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These old guys are very impressed by the technology

>/f1/

>>75683364
good on him then
>>75683459
miku makes for entry level itasha

>>75683408
224-225 without tow and extra boost is good pace.
For his experience right now it's solid.

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>>75683234
It's a rookie session and the weather conditions weren't favorable, quite gusty, but it's shaping up to be a serious effort.

His ears must smell really bad

>>75683500
>oh, and he will also have to get used to so many controls at the wheel
right, because they don't have to set up shit at the wheel for every

>>75683459
A gundam, hello kitty, miku, I don't know what else, would be pretty cool to see in a western racing series.

>>75683570
Are there people whose ears smell good?

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>>75683506
All the supergt itashas are entry level: Migu, eva, etc., so you'd expect something similar on f1 if it were to happen.
>You'll never rice an italian supercar for full autis/m/

>>75683606
the stratos on the left is what usually gets people super mad
especially because it's not a replica

>>75683602
Did you see him wet the earplugs in his mouth and then pop them in?

>>75683601
>right, because they don't have to set up shit at the wheel for every
New protocols, procedures, and strategies that don't carry over straight from F1. Much more fuel economy in Indycar.

>>75683638
kek

Imagine someone putting a Love Live livery on a real Porsche 917 or something like that

>Senna, as brave as he was, he just didn't think he would like ovals
based

>>75683488
honda pretty much taking over the team, so is actualy possible to see a weeb car for the japanese gp next year

>herbert getting rekt even a test day stream

ahahaha

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>cold weather
>old tyres
>first time on an oval
this is a recepie for disaster

wew that bird

>>75683730
rain too

>>75683841
He fucked with him

When is Montoya gonna aim for the Le Mans win?

>>75683654
Yeah, I'm with you, I was planning to just shitpost about >muh complexity of /f1/ but decided against it, but since I'm drunk I didn't delete the whole sentence.
Anyway, I liked their effort in pushing the publicity of the whole deal.

>>75683670
2bh I don't get why people get mad over just some stickers. It's a full wrap at most, they can take it off.
What bothers me actually are the wheels. That's what makes it look like a kit car. Why have those instead of the standard ones?

>going back out
>track a bit wet

oh boy, I think he just wants the sweet release of death

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>>75681700

>>75683690
>Honda do a Renault with Sauber and take over the team after a year or so
>McLaren no longer werks team
>Renault Enstone ahead of RB, Honda Sauber ahead of McLaren
>McLaren has to buy Cosworth engines

I love seeing him zig zag out of turn 2 like that

>>75683994
>Ron returns with a bigger, better autism box

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>>75684161

Alright this is getting a bit ridiculous, do they think he's retarded?

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>pull up Lonso at Indy on youtube
>giant swastikas in the chat bar

Which one of you did it?

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post gridgirls.
also why is ther no woman driveress?

Ok Fernando, I want you to hit the pace car.

>>75684242
what do you meme

>>75684288
>he doesn't know what marbles are
>he's not going to know how to enter the pits
>he doesn't know how to restart
>he doesn't know what saving fuel is

>>75684259
/pol/ is leaking again as usual

>800,000 unique ips tuned into stream of a man driving laps by himself
are racefans the most autistic of all

>alonso does a Justin Wilson at Indy 500

Nando's first burg?

>>75684349
Yes, basically everything about racing appeals to those of us on the spectrum.

>>75684349
It's all about the impending crash against the wall

>>75684373
Sage is driving again this year.
Do you think Alonso will get KARAM'D?

>>75684405
these digits confirm he'll monger himself

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>>75684334
>/pol/
>not the cancer that is /f1/

Sure, Zeox.

Sure.

If a formula 1 car were to crash into my 3500 pound car at 320kmh will I also die (or get horribly injured) or just senna?

>>75684386
Don'r think that will happen today.
He should be fine, he knows what he's doing.

>>75684405
I was thinking about that and the meme potential if Karam took Alonso out

>>75684440
you have cars in the bahamas??????

>>75684440
No, dude, you're fooked.

DOUBLE KILL

RIP BIRBS
>>75684468
why wouldnt we?

2 birds, one stone

REEEE STOP KILLING OUR BIRDS

>DOUBLE
>BIRD
>KILL

Based Alonso

>>75684311
In his defense, it's a different car and different kind of racing. Lots of people fuck up badly after switching like that. Gimi's burning ass in NASCAR for example

>birds

>>75684439
Kek.
It makes me laugh and trivializes what are considered hate symbols by normies, that's fine with me.

Indycar has turned Alonso into a bird murderer in only an afternoon

>It's a double bird kill
heh

>>75684349
>having fun comparing laptimes and sectors plus accounting for safety cars, incidents, or none, or mistakes, to know if driver A will catch to driver B in X amount of laps
What other sport relies on autism to have fun? other than those weird winter sports

Vettel is on the phone to the wildlife protection agency this very moment

double kill

>>75684597
Boreswing uses a lot of meme statistics to keep autists involved.

>Alonso hits bird right in the helmet
>instant Justin Wilson

>>75684440
>my 3500 pound car
that's quite a cheap car

>>75684644
Hah, is that golf or baseball?
Either way, both get pretty autistic anyway.

alright, now which one of yous is spamming the swastikas?

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Press F to pay respect to all the birbos killed in motorsport

F

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>>75684580
>killing shit
>eating cheeseburgers

He'll be Muricanized' in not time.

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>>75682289
Apparently the doctor who inspected the tarmac afterwards found strange looking grey particles on the tarmac leading to where the car stopped. It was detirmined this was Gordon Smiley's brain matter, his collision with the catch fence had torn his helmet off and scalped him, leading him to deposit his brain on the tarmac.

Disturbing shit.

If we are posting fatal crashes then here's one that's not for the faint of heart: Tom Pryce hitting track marshal Fredrik Jansen van Vuuren at the '77 South African Grand Prix at Kyalami.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q99k2r6GeS4

>>75684837

>>75682808

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Another brave hero that fell on his duty.

destroying those tires on pit entry

>tfw he's smiling
>>75684701
yeah Im not a fan of BMWs, Im thinking of selling it and getting a speedy literbike

P O L V E R I Z E D

Gonna need a webm of that double bird kill

lmao wiping the bird goo off

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>>75684800
>people tell him he killed birds
>he laughs
wew lad

>>75684882
>yeah Im not a fan of BMWs
bimmers are great, got a pic?

One bird was not enough.

>>75684936
He dindu nuffin
Alonzo is a good boy
He never kill dem bird

>>75684958
no pic, my dad uses it too and has it right now, I'll post one when he's back
it's an e60 528i though
>>75684936
the mans gone insane after being eternally HONDA'd in F1, cut him some slack

well no crash today lads
press conference in a bit

>done for the day

Someone should make an "Alonso then" and "Alonso now" with him dodging then hitting the birds

>>75685083
He's still driving a Honda.

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>Victor
Alert! I don't know what the fuck this guy is but he IS NOT Finnish!

>>75685194
yeah but this one works

>>75685243
>almost 10 Andretti DNFs in 4 races
>"works"

hmm

>>75685302
I don't think the engine ever failed

>>75685354
FF

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so new upgrades for all teams are coming. do we expect any changes in powerlvl? maybe redull having a comeback?

>>75685302
it was mostly crashes desu

>>75685354
double smiley

>>75685354
*alonso smiles*

>>75685354
Kino as fuck

>>75685403
Renault PU upgrade is delayed indefinitely, kek.

>>75685354

>wwn see the onboard for that

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>>75685354
Impressive

>>75685354
>that feather turbulence

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>>75685354

reminder that birds are very important

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>>75685514
WHAAAT WHY? lel is renault still pissed about rebull shittalking them last year?

>>75685514
well so much for a fun season

>>75685514
Who actually gets the new developments first anymore? Is it Red Bull or are they diverting into Renault Proper now?

Press Conference is starting

alonso presser starting now

my ears

>>75685403
I don't think RB will have anything of worth until, at best, late in the season.
The fundamental design relied on a concept which has been limited by a new regulation regarding how suspension works.
Since suspension is such an elementary concept of the whole design, they basically need a whole new chassis, it's not like fixing brakes, front wing deficit, etc.

>>75685737
>>75685811
>>75685835
http://www.gptoday.com/full_story/view/603089/Red_Bull_hit_by_delay_of_Renault_engine_upgrade

>>75685835

Engine development Renault obv (Hulkenberg)

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>>75685354
>>75685620
Nice.

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>>75685717
Indeed they are

>>75685916
Is correct, according to that article.

>You only get this impression (that Hulkenberg has a faster engine) in qualifying, but one reason could be that Hulkenberg is a frighteningly good driver in qualifying

Marko talking big sense.

you know

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>>75685892
ok i heard this before with the suspension but nothing detailed. can you explain what wasnt allowed to them exactly? didnt mercedes have the same suspension and their car is doing fine?

>>75686102
It allowed you to change your levels of rake depending on if you were cornering or going in a straight line.

>ah fuck it I'll just stop by the pit lane and push my car despite being capable of hitting the clutch and cruising to pits
>2 weeks later
>Mclaren-Honda combination is so strong and powerful

alonso has more sponsors than most of the series regulars kek

>>75686102
Yeah, Merc and RB suffered a bit more than the rest from this ruling.
So first, the ruling is the old one that you can't have active aerodynamic aids.
What RB and Merc where cleverly doing was having a suspension that would change the rake (the inclination of the car to the ground, respective the the nose) depending on the speed the car was doing.
The cars would have an aggressive inclination at low speeds and have a more parallel angle to the ground at higher speeds. This is obviously completely normal since the faster you go the more air pushes you to the ground, but in their case the car reacted very specifically to the speeds, like super high angle at low speeds and then it would set itself down at higher speeds.
Ferrari pushed that this was a violation of the rules since it was basically active aero. FIA agreed and decided to ban the implementation.
Merc has a nice engine and also had other more universal solutions to aero than RB, RB/Newey set up early the idea of the rake based car, which has been always the case with Newey, all RBs have had very aggressive rake, all engineers poached from RB also showed up influence on rake everywhere they went, you could see it last year a lot.
So, the change came very late, by the end of last season, Merc didn't have that much trouble, but for RB the rake based design was integral to the full concept, and so they are now running the aggressive rake but without the dynamic it had before, tie that to a lower on power Renault engine and they are clearly suffering on straights.
Watch some clips from last year, you can see the RBs approaching at high speed the corner entry, and at some point it's like the rear end jumps up high really fast.

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Based

GP2 birds AGHH
f2

>>75686666

Checked for Newey exposed

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These drawings are fucking neat

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/technical/2017/5/russia-tech-roundup---slotted-t-wings--double-monkey-seats---mor.html

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>>75686932
>Piola

>>75686932

Giorgio Piola is based as fuck. On italian tv he often partecipate in pre/post race debates and is always really nice

>>75681855
Can't somebody pay Montoya a few Whoppers just to win LeMans and cuck Choronso?

>le Red Bull Racing suspension clarification hurt them meme
Jesus you lot are like Ted going on about boundary layers.

The RBR suspension that was under investigation was the suspension they used last year, same as Mercedes.
And RBR are using the same suspension as last year now while Mercedes are not. Aka the issue for RBR being shit has nothing to do with suspension (though pace wise they are about where they were at the beginning of last year, Mercedes has dropped down and Ferrari have jumped forward). Notice how RBR cars still run the same high rake? Notice how it still goes around corners like last year?
A different team trying to develop what Mercedes had was stopped and Mercedes was stopped. That other team could have been RBR, but since they have not changed their suspension from last season to this season that's not likely. It was more likely a mid field team trying to make the jump forward that has enough funds to develop this suspension (Williams, Haas or McLaren are my bets).

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is there any style this man CAN'T pull off?

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>>75686666
thanks thats a cool explanation. still wonder how they do this mechanically or just with airflow. i guess with sensors and computers it would have been banned outright.
>>75686633
>>75686690
so with alonso they want the latino audience or whats the plan behind it?

>>75687240
That one

>>75687240
hairstyle

>>75687240
so that's a full on wig right

>>75686666
wew, breddy clever yet so simple. I should read more into this. Sounds way too simple for Ferrari to complain. There must be some weird sexy stuff going on.

>>75687242
From what I've understood, suspensions can have multiple springs so should be stiffness and downforce interaction. Electronics are banned so active differentials and suspensions are banned. Few years ago they tried linking the suspensions, it got banned.

>>75687240
>glasses inside
>No dress socks

Throw in some socks and drop the glasses and anyone could probably pull that off
Actually you just need to change the glasses to ones that suit the persons face.

Who's the biggest qualibabby of all time?

Here's some that come to mind:

>Senna
>Trulli
>N. Rosberg
>Haryanto
>Ricciardo

>>75687440
ham

>>75684311
>he doesn't know what marbles are
Ovals get marbles in places that he'll have to learn.
>he's not going to know how to enter the pits
You're going from 230 mph to 65 mph or whatever the speed limit is for pit road. You are also driving an asymmetrical oval setup with positive camber among other changes that isn't optimized to be braking. The tires will also be worn and lacking the grip you might expect.
>he doesn't know how to restart
No, he doesn't. Restarts aren't easy and the first few laps will have underperforming tires until they heat up. Cornering on cold tires at 200+ is a good way for a rookie to stuff it in a wall.
>he doesn't know what saving fuel is
Saving fuel and going fast in an oval/Indycar is very different. He's racing against people who have been doing this for years and he's said too that his foot isn't connected to his brain in this car and he'll have to learn. People like Scott Dixon know how to save incredible amounts of fuel while putting in fast times, and you can't learn that experience in a month.

You're retarded.

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Me in the background.

>>75687152
How is their issue not related to the suspension when the suspension completely dictates the aerodynamics of the Red Bull car?
They run a more streamlined car because the aggressive rake works harder, the other teams run more downforce and air channeling components but less rake.
Now, rake has been kept aggressive because they figured they'd rather have more downforce than straight line speed, why is this? because in total they benefit more from that set up.
Only teams with no budget prefer to run lower drag, like manor did last year for example.

>>75687351
The sexy stuff is finding the material elasticity at different tensions to relate to a certain degree of stiffness, and thus resulting angle. No idea how they did that, or if they did it that way.

>>75687240
Fucking snorted my beer lmao! He is a mess.

>>75687483
>muh ovals

>>75687501
That sounds like wing, not suspension. I think they got that banned too, not sure if it was Red Bull or Ferrari.

>>75687240
Why is he so infatuated with the celebrity lifestyle of hollywood?
Also, what the fuck:
>every aspiration I have in life is encapsulated in this photo
My sides

>>75687483
I understand all that but the commentators were bringing up every little thing like it would be his downfall, it was getting absurd

>>75687351
>From what I've understood, suspensions can have multiple springs so should be stiffness and downforce interaction. Electronics are banned so active differentials and suspensions are banned. Few years ago they tried linking the suspensions, it got banned.
Correct, the only way to ban RBR suspension was to ban shock absorbers and ban springs from the suspension. Mercedes were doing something a lot more tricky and sophisticated than RBR and it was banned under the clarification. RBR was just using a clever combination of regular suspension components that were designed in a particular way that gave them the qualities they wanted.

>>75687501
>RBR suspension was banned
>the suspension they had investigated was the same suspension they used last year
>Its also the same suspension they are using this year
>wait how are they doing the same thing if it was banned?
Their suspension was fine under the clarification.
Its not the suspension, it's their design philosophy and doing different aero developments that other teams didn't do plus the power unit that lacks power and reliability.
Blame Newey and Renault, not their suspension.

>>75687286
>Formula 1 racer Lewis Hamilton has been impressing both on and off the race track. Since the British star began growing his hair, we have seen him experiment a little with his ‘do, and this high-top hairstyle is one of his best yet.

>Testing out a light shade of brown on his naturally coily locks, Lewis creates effortless contrast in colour, with his subtle fade providing an understated edge.

He's been to that faggot show at least 3 years in a row. Image searching met gala was a mistake.

>>75687240

this basically confirms Hamilton will have a shit start next race

>>75687559
There were only mentioning things that he himself spoke of that were differences that he was trying to learn in the simulator. No need to be so easily triggered dude.

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>>75687240
>"this is for you mom"

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>>75687240
separated at birth?

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>>75687738

>>75687567
They are not running the same suspension though.
I mean, I'm not completely denying what you said, but what I have read is things like this, from here and other sources:
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/128687
So if you can point me that in fact the suspension elements remain, and that it's not their issue (regardless of what the team says for PR), then I'll completely accept the suspension not being one of their weak points.
It's just that the suspension dictates rake, and rake is part of aero, how can it not be one of their failures this year?
I'm not talking about suspension in the mechanical grip sense, just pure aero affected by suspension setup.
Newey wanted a clean air path, with a big box from the rake helping dictate flow and downforce to/from the rear, it's clearly pushing beyond the engine power and so they are running minimal downforce aids unlike the rest of the field with the T wings and shit.

Well, it also hurts not being the works team anymore that's fer shur.

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>>75681428
>Burgers explain us Indycar Edition
no clue

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>>75687738

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I don't care about indycars but May 28 might be the greatest motorsport day of the year.
Both Montecarlo and Indianapolis, with Alonso dying on the oval...Perfect
Nothing against Nando obviously

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>>75687884
at the moment he dies, he'll hear, blaring from a radio "and jenson button has taken a surprise win in the much improved honda package, and looks set to challenge for the world championship this year"

>>75687787
Oh their suspension could well be the issue, but their suspension they use was not banned.

Timeline of events:
>Towards the end of last season people start pointing fingers at Mercedes and RBR for using tricky suspension
>Ferrari ask for clarification
>Clarification was given
>Pre-season testing has an inspection of every car to see if they are doing anything illegal
>2 cars have parts they cannot use in Australia as they are illegal
>Mercedes put their had up and say one was them
>Australia comes round and Mercedes are using a new suspension and RBR are using the same as they had last year that was investigated
>RBR is not disqualified

Some other team had suspension that was banned, it could have been a new suspension from RBR but it wasn't their one that people were pointing fingers at which is what people assume was banned.

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>>75687939

>>75687954
As for proof all there really is is that both Newey and Horner have said they wish they could blame the suspension clarification on their performance but they are using the same as last year and that when they adjust their suspension they do the same things they did last year. They also have said they are about the same as they were the year before and that Ferrari has just made a huge leap forward, which they have.
>inb4 believing Red Bulls lies
We don't have much more to go on. Lack of downforce and power are their issues, development of the car with a different new suspension that was banned could be the issue but that's completely speculative.

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>>75685354

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so why is lehonda in formula 1?

>>75688141
>sparks

>>75687486
>one of the greatest amerifat legends of all time didn't even last a whole season in F1
always makes me lol

also michael andretti has such an american face for gods sake, i don't know what is it, but his face just says "AMERICA" written all over it