After this game is there ANY doubt now that Manning > Brady?

>le defense Chicken HGH man

Nah, Brady's still better

Lol game manager carried by his defense

Brady is still better.

Manning was literally carried by his defense so no, he played average as fuck.

>>65161168
Yes that's Brady, and?

PED's > Deflated balls is the only thing I learned today

>>65161006

>Implying Broncos defense didn't carry Manning

Absolutely

Peyton is a legend and always will be.

>>65161168
>>65161236
>>65161287
He scored more than Brady on offense regardless

brady is the ultimate game manager qb

manning is a cartoon supervillain who can win games solely through the power of his mind

>>65161006
Doesn't matter what the individuals say necessarily, it will go down in history that Peyton had beaten "The best"

Beating the best makes you the best, don't tolerate all these brady cock suckers.

>>65161102

Cock suckers will always prefer the faggot way of life. Lol weak willed bitch

>Peyton is .600 against Brady in the playoffs

Can't argue with that

PEY PEY SETS COURSE FOR THE HALL OF FAME

GET FUCKED BRADLEY

>>65161102
>>65161168
>>65161236
>>65161287

so you telling me all them times Brady beat Manning he had no Defense
>GTFO

>>65161168
>Gronk babby

>>65161006

if you live in the moment and have no concept of history, sure.

>>65161006

no its still brady > manning

if manning wins the superbowl, it will become manning = brady

if manning wins 2 more superbowls, then yeah, he'll be > brady

>>65161419
Do you know how defense works?

The Broncos defense saved Manning.
I don't have a team in the game and I hate Brady.

>>65161168
>>65161236
But Brady is a system baby who was carried by his defense.

People also seem to forget that Payton is playing with a foot that's mush, which is why he doesn't have a deep ball and is less accurate. Brady couldn't come back in a season when he took a minor hit to his knee.

I don't think there is. Head to head, Peyton is in his twilight years with a rough season behind him and Brady was in top shape, and look who was embarrased on national TV.

>>65161006
Manning has the better record when they meet in the playoffs

>>65161574
> THIS THIS THIS

>>65161194

Stay behind your screen because if I catch you outside faggot I'm beating the shit out of you. Worthless cocksucker

>>65161194
Brady = Pussy
Manning = man

Brady is why the NFC looks down on the AFC

I want to congratulate the Broncos, they played an amazing game. As a Jets fan I am more than happy to have them represent the AFC. Go kick some ass in the Owl.

>>65161006
Brady leads Peyton in their head to heads
Brady has more AFCCGs
Brady has more Super Bowls

>>65161006

Depends. By what metric are we going? Head to head record in playoffs? Well the. Objectively, Manning. But if playoffs matter more, I would point out that historically, Brady has had greater average success than Manning in the postseason.

>>65161574
This

>>65161236
He didn't throw 2 picks and another one when the game is on the line.
That's what matters, right? I've heard that from you faggots for almost 2 decades. Stats, performance, and logic are useless. What matters is playoff wins and head-to-head records. Manning is better than Brady in the playoffs, he won more head to head matchups.
Brady played like hot dogshit all day, then he choked when he needed it most. Against a team with both safeties out. What a playoff choke artist. Right, Pats fans?

>>65161006
(reply)

>Peyton better than Brady

I can't wait to watch him lose in the owl for the third time in a row.

>>65161236
Because Brady wasn't carried by his defense in all of his owl wins. Yet there are delusional fucks who voted him mvp.

>>65161512
chicken parm is hof bound no matter what bud

>>65161472
>Peyton is .500 against Brady in the playoffs
>the Broncos defense is 1-0 against Brady in the playoffs
corrected that mistake for you

>>65161662
Peyton has the better postseason h2h

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>>65161644
10/10 tough guy

>>65161662
One thing has changed though, Manning now leads in head to head in the playoffs.

>>65161609
>minor hit to his knee
I know this is trolling, but please try harder

>>65161609
>Brady is a system baby

This is what casual newcunts actually believe. Look up the stats under Belichick before Brady became their QB.

>>65161006
>one has literally all day to throw and consistently open receivers
>still puts up mediocre numbers and doesn't even top 200 yards
>the other is getting hit as soon as the ball is snap and rarely has an open throw
>still manages to keep his team in the game until the very end thanks to his 4th down heroics

Peypey gonna get blacked by the Panthers anyway. such a shame really. 2004 rematch would have been good but now we have to endure a 2-week never-ending dick suck of manning despite his DF carrying him the entire way. Also Brock. Fuck this shit. gonna drink myself to death tonight

>>65161574
>if manning wins the superbowl, it will become manning = brady
what crack are you smoking to believe this could ever be true in this universe?

Tablet gate!!! Denver won because they hacked new England's Microsoft tablets. The NFL can't let Denver get away with this

>>65161845

Watch it. You're on thin ice man

>>65161574
not even
nice try tho

>most career TDs and yards
>most single season TDs and yards
>5 NFL MVPs
>considered all around a greater QB in his prime than Brady was in his prime

I mean come on, Brady might've been carried to four* SB rings by his coach and team but the better passer he is not.

As a Buffalo resident, I hate to say it, but still Brady and it's still not even close. Are people literally retarded?

>>65161574
>imfuckingplying

Brady still has his 4 rings and won't endure a butt fuck at the superbowl this year lmao

>>65162024
this
this pats most have 4got that have great defenses, randy moss, and ridiculously great system (which is why Brady is even a great QB)

>>65161978
nah, the Pats wouldn't stoop to that level as to make up a scandal implicating muh glory boy Peyton. they couldn't handle the pressure by the Bronco defense

>>65161102
But I thought it wasn't a valid excuse for Manning supporters to claim the old Colts' shitty defense when the Patriots had a good one. Nice hypocrisy, bandwagoning faggot.

>>65161955
agreed

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No, there was never an argument for system gronk-baby bradley

>>65162231
Belicheck's system was literally failing the team before Brady became their QB

>>65161006

brady has always been better.

and i couldn't care less about the pats

Nah, but Manning played well today. Made safe reads and stepped into his throws.

Brady I thought could have completed more passes had he really zipped them in

manning is losing another bowl, isn't he

How come the NFL hasn't investigated Peyton Manning for HGH use yet?

>>65162354
wrong: the post

Peyton is the oc and head coach. Brady is just a system baby. Anyone who isn't a causal knows this.

>>65162437
To be fair, NE would lose too. Carolina and Arizona are better teams than both the AFC teams.

>>65161874
Refer to the stats of that one QB they dumped onto Kansas City the year when Brady got grumpy a defender hit his leg and he decided to sit out all season.

He still took that team to 10-6.

Meanwhile the Clots are garbage with Payton after the beginners luck with Luck wore off..

>>65162437
He is and this is what upsets me about the outcome of this game. Least the Pats could pull a superbowl victory but manning is goddamn horse shit

Brady has a losing playoff record against Manning, nothing else matters. The Manning brothers are his kryptonite

>>65162359
gtfo do you guys remember how good Drew Bledsoe and Matt Cassel was good with the pats.
as soon as they left. Exposed
and i'm also talking about defense too

>>65161006
This game was defensive game for sure. Manning was definitely more composed than Brady, but the score was locked for most of the game

>>65162667
This.

>>65161574

what the fuck is this this arbitrary bullshit so if marshawn lynch ran the ball and got a TD last year, Manning would only need 1 more ring to equal brady instead of 2? Makes no sense.

>all the pats needed was a PAT

>>65161837
>Brady v Peyton
>never on the field at the same time
>implying it isn't QB v Defense, where Denver is obviously superior

>>65161006
>Super Bowl appearances
>Super Bowl wins

not quite, OP

or, you know, football is a team sport and any attempt to differentiate between two GOAT-tier QBs is going to be inherently subjective

>>65162685
>Manning was definitely more composed than Brady
debatable. At least Brady held his ground or tried to break forwards when he got sacked, Manning always retreated like 15 yards

>>65161006
>stupid patsfags, wins are team stats
>le manning is better than bradley now, right :^)

i know this is bait, but there are people that actually think like this

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>>65162437
>>65162567

This.
I am just kinda saddened that Broncos will fall flat in two weeks, where Pats could've pulled some weird shit and won it

>>65162991
>but there are people that actually think like this
yeah, pats fans

>>65161715

Good post.

We can settle this easily.
If you were putting a team together to win the Super Bowl against any team, who would you pick to be your QB: Brady or Manning?

>>65162952

Manning ran for a first down you nong head.

I think today showed that, at least in the 2010s decade, Brady is a Gronk babby

He was previously a defense babby

Go fuck yourself this is like the one time Manning won and fuck I am mad as fuck.

>>65161574
>if manning wins the superbowl, it will become manning = brady
I don't fucking think so dude.

Manning would still need to win 2 more owls.

Anyway, it's irrelevant, because the Broncos are just going to get shat on again in the Super Bowl anyways.

>>65163183
you forgot moss baby family

>>65163152

Right now? Brady.
In their prime? Manning.

I know this is for
>teh lulz
but let's not pretend Peyton had a good game today.

Say what you will about the changing nature of football, but defense still wins championships. Capturing the line of scrimmage will always win ball games.
>muh offense
Can only do so much. Peyton and Brady played like shit. Denver's defense was rock solid, though.

>>65162991
>>65163062
brady has more rings: brady is obviously better
peyton has better h2h record in playoffs: wins are team stats

>>65163257
>Brady's prime
3 Super Bowls

>Manning's prime
0 super bowls

Manning is 3-2 over Brady in the Playoffs
Manning is 3-1 over Brady in the AFCCG

>He's the greatest regular season QB ever....oh wait?

>>65163152
2010's? Brady
2000's? Still Brady.

>>65161715

Pretty easy when you have more than half a second to get rid of the ball before the pocket collapses.

>>65161006
Who cares about these two cheater?

>>65163297
>0 super bowls
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Bowl_XLI

I've said it all along. Never. Bet. Against. The. Home. Team.
They're both just home babbies when they face each other.

>>65163183

Fair go mate, name literally one good Super Bowl winning quarterback that didn't have other good players around him?

>>65161006
>Manning
bailed out by defense
>Brady
bailed out by Gronk

the correct mathematical statement is Manning = Brady

>>65163368

Yeah basically. If Pats didn't choke at the end of the regular season and blow home field advantage, they may well have won that game. But they didn't win-out in the regular season, and they didn't win today. So tough shit.

>cheatriots win
>YAH QB VS QB BRADY SHOULD GO BALLS DEEP IN ME
>cheatriots lose
>SHUT UP QBs don't face each other it was all defense waaah
>0-2 vs Eli in super bowls
>18-1

>>65163181
With little to no pressure on him because his O-Line wasn't dogshit
Manning was under much less pressure than Brady and still didn't do much more with the ball than Brady. The game would have been tied were it not for the missed PAT

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>Broncucks about to be 2**-6 in the owl

How embarrassing

>>65163463

So what you're saying is......Eli Manning......is the greatest of all time?

Broncos defense was pretty brutal, so they made the points and blocked and put a lot of pressure on Brady, he got nervous.

>>65161715
>>65163106
How is that a good post? Did you watch the game? Not a fan of NE or Denver, but Brady literally had under a second to ditch the ball on EVERY play. Defenders were coming off the line completely unblocked nearly every snap. No protection vs. a good secondary and there's absolutely no chance for the offense to get going.

Brady didn't play well, but given the circumstances shitting on him for picks and off-target throws is ridiculous.

>Brady
>most playoff wins, most super bowl games been in and is 4-2 in super bowls
>Manning
>most playoff losses, was benched in his career, was released from a team and is 1-2 in super bowls

I don't know OP. Tell me who's better.

>>65161835
>* bandwagoners don't remember the denver defense owning brady in the playoffs before manning even got here

>>65163526
Yes

>>65163495

Mate you're talking out your ass.

>>65163563
Manning. You just saw what happens when the kicker and defense don't carry 2picks Brady to a title

>>65163526
No because the people he beat weren't the greatest.

>>65163563
Eli

>>65163561
I can use that logic too.

Peyton had ZERO help from his running backs. The defense could have dropped back 10 in coverage and Denver's RBs would find a way to rush for 2.

>>65163649
>Mate you're talking out your ass
That Brady was consistently under far more pressure from the pass rush than Manning? Were we watching the same match?
And I'll repeat: the game would have been a tie were it not for the missed PAT. In the lat 10 mins of 4th Quarter the Pats offence got its shit together and was pretty much parked in the Broncos red zone

>>65163526
I'm just enjoying the circus jumps this massive bandwagon goes through every time they lose

>>65163270
Pats had the best D in the league when they won the first few owls. Brady will never be more than a mediocre game manager who chokes against the Mannings.

>>65163800
>Peyton had ZERO help from his running backs
And Brady did? Not to mention my post had absolutely nothing to do with Peyton you illiterate fuck

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>>65161988

Manlet

>>65163864
>thinking most of these bandwagoners even bandwagoned the pats back then
but yes you're right
>>65163840
every time man I swear they're cancer

No doubt whatsoever.

Bradly will be remembered as a Pete Rose type. Bretty good, but a festering, corrupt groper of soft squishy brown balls.

>>65164021
>thinking most of these bandwagoners even bandwagoned the pats back then

I think you mean
>thinking people posting an anime board where the average age is like 23 would have been switched on enough to know about the in-depths of the game back them

>>65164031
>comparing Tom Brady to Pete Rose

come on man seriously? Pete Rose? He is definitely more of a OJ Simpsons........

>>65164021
Just informing the memers burning their Brady jerseys with the tags still on that their flavor of the week QB was never that good.

>>65163821
You're talking to an Aussie. Don't mind him

>>65163380
Drew Brees maybe?

i dont really remember anyone that spectacular on that offense

>That nfl shop commercial where the guy bandwagons the cheatriots for some broad

>>65165336
At least he's doing it for pussy, these faggots are just glory hunting virgins

>>65163563
The one who has more yards, TDs and a winning h2h record in the playoffs

Brady is a system babby. If he went to the Broncos he would have gotten 5 coaches fired and moved teams after 3 years because he would be so shit.

>>65161168
that's a pretty accurate description of brady thanks, i'll use it too

>>65164201
but he never murdered anyone

>tom couldn't do anything and still somehow managed two touchdowns
>manning had all day to throw every play and still somehow managed to barely outscore tom, most of the work was done by their rb on top of that

yes manning is best girl

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>>65172899
> manning had all day to throw all day
>most of the work was done by their rb on top of that

Can the mods make quizes so people would have to at least WATCH the games before posting retarded shit?

>>65162354
I fail to see how anyone could look at that comparative stat line and not just decide that it's clear one is better than the other, but get horribly butthurt when someone disagrees.

>>65161006
Cam shits on both.

No.

>brady wins owl
>brady vs manning debate shuts down for a while
>manning wins a playoff game
>suddenly it starts back up

IF Peyton wins the Owl, we can disucss it. Until then he's an HGH filled regular season babby with as many SB wins as Russel Wilson.

>>65162542
They went 11-5 with Cassel as starting QB.

And then 10-6 the next year when Brady came back.

>>65173229
So they did even better with Cassel, proving it was the system. Then Cassel has one good year in KC and people think that means the system doesn't exist.

>take away underneath throw
>Brady turns to shit

Lel go figure

Brady never lost 43-8 in a Super Bowl

>>65174085
yeah, he lost to the team that lost 43-8 that year.

I need to se Brady on another team and be successful. Because even still the pats went 11-5 without him. Still hoodie is the goat HC of the modern era.

>>65174112
>tfw pats would have lost by at least 50

>>65163526
Eli > Brady > Peypey > Eli

We've settled this a long time ago.

>>65174288
settle this motherfucker
>>65173716

When Manning wins 5 more games against Brady, without losing any, and also wins 3 more Owls, without losing any, he will be as good as Tom Brady.

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Who the fuck actually thinks Manning is better than Brady regardless of your opinion on either one

I'm dying of laughter reading this thread

>>65161837
Who cares. Brady's playoff record is A LOT better than Manning's

>>65161102
>starts 9 games
>throws 9 td 17 int, passer rating of 67

OMG HE IS SO GOOD HE TOOK HIS TEAM TO THE OWL!!!!

>>65161464
>Cock suckers will always prefer the faggot way of life.
You would know.

>Lol weak willed bitch
Don't project :^)

>re:Brady vs Peyton
Rings. Count 'em, faggot.

>>65161246
Brady:
>36 td, 7 int, near 5000 yards
>pats have #9 defense

Manning
>9 td, 17 int, 67 passer rating
>broncos have #1 defense

are you retarded?

>>65175349
Brady haters and Manningfags will defy all logic and judgement to spite Brady

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>there are """people""" that will say the right side is more impressive than the left

>>65161988
come fite me fagit.

>>65175349
People who aren't retards

Unsurprisingly you don't fit that the bill

>>65175366
Not against Peyton

>>65176857
Brady doesn't play Peyton you fat moron.

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>>65176827
> college stats

>>65175432
>regular season stats

How ironic

>>65176866
Take those out and Brady is still blowing HGHton the fuck out.

>>65163183

Remember last year when Brady struggled in the beggining and they got BTFO by the Chiefs and everyone thought he was done? They didn't have Gronk. Then they got Gronk back and they won the owl.

And this year they were undefeated until Gronk got hurt and they lost a couple of games.

I think it's pretty clear he's a Gronk babby

1>4
Alright Timmy let's learn how to count first before taking on the big leagues

>>65176893
Peyton gets far more pro-bowl receivers than Brady does.

Peyton is a pro-bowl receiver babby.

We can both play this dumb game.

>>65176864
And so what, Peyton plays offense and defense for his team? Can't have it both ways, bitch

Smd fat pussy

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What I don't get is how people still try to shit on Brady after he loses a game like that and he just takes his loss

Most other teams always have to whine and cry and bitch about something, hell if it was chicken parm he'd be throwing the kicker under the bus.

>>65176919
Peyton makes his receivers Pro Bowlers

Brady just chucks it to Gronk nowadays and hopes for the best

>>65176866

>he ignores the wall of stats from the pros that still eclipses chicken parm's accolades


Don't you have to take some HGH before the big game?

Let me get this straight, Toms rings were all won solely by him and Peyton 's (and Eli's too) were all won by the effort of every other player on the roster except the qb.

Brady fans are so fucking retarded that it's bordering on sad. If Peyton threw 2 ints and under 50% passing today he would be hailed as the worst qb of all time.

>the QB with 1 SB win and 3 SB losses is better than the QB with 4 SB wins and 2 SB losses

>people will actually argue this with a straight face

>>65176964
>Malcolm Butler getting an interception affects comparing two players
>one player is better because he has more jewelry on his hands

>>65176964
>team stats hold more weight than individual and head to head stats

>>65176964
Peyton is 3-2 against Brady in the postseason

It's obvious that he's better in the postseason. Just that his teams suck

>>65177006
>head to head

>>65177009
>Peyton against Brady

QUARTERBACKS

NEVER

GO

HEAD

TO

HEAD

YOU

FUCKING

MORONs

Today was Patriots defense vs Peyton and Broncos defense vs Brady. That's it. Use your brain you fucking idiots.

>>65176995
>forgetting the last quarter drives orchestrated by Brady to come back from a 2 possession deficit

>>65161006
Manning was much more efficient and threw 2 touchdowns. Brady threw for under 50%, 2 picks and got a TD at the end of the game when the Denver offense was playing extremely conservative and kept giving Brady chances. Brady couldn't even make a play on the 2 pt conversion play.

>>65163181

So did Brady

>>65177019
Which is fine since Peyton's QB stats are all narrowly better than Brady's. Brady's only argument was winning in the postseason. Which is something he can't do against these Southern retards lel.

>>65177019
BRADY

HAS

BETTER

POSTSEASON

STATS

MORE

WINS

AND

MORE RINGS

>>65177050
Not to mention he also got bailed out by Gronkowski several times. Take away Brady's little crossing routes and he's nothing. Brady is a system and a YAC babby. Peyton didn't light it up, but he did enough to win the game.

>>65177085
That implies the point of the NFL is stats, which it's not. The entire point of the NFL is the Super Bowl.

Stats can be twisted, interpreted, and defined a hundred different ways but the Super Bowl is absolute. It's the end-all goal of the NFL, and to imply that Peyton had a better career than Brady is laughable at best.

>>65177050
>one td at the beginning of the game
>gets another one off a int within field goal range
>doesnt do shit after that despite being gifted punts to midfield all game
Neither of those teams should be going to the super bowl. Carolina is going to expose the AFC as the dregs of the nfl

>>65177113
Not when the Super Bowl is a team accomplishment.

Best QB is done via QB stats.

Ring arguments are used by knuckledraggers. There's a reason there is no ring argument in Baseball. That's because they have the stats.

>>65176827
Brady wins super bowls
loses MVPs
loses Pro Bowls
loses all-pro first teams
loses all-pro second teams
>SN All-Pro is listed here for some reason
wins AFC championships
ties NFL passing touchdown champion seasons
loses yards leader
>AP Male Athlete of the Year
ties offensive player of the year
>Wins
>College stats

Brady wins team stats, loses individual stats, is more beloved by some publications

>>65177113
>team stats

sorry but Charles Haley is not the greatest linebacker of all time ;)

>>65177113
>having your season ended 5 times by Archie Manning's autistic spawn

pretty laughable

Kurt Warner was the only QB he beat that was even half-decent. Every other good QB beats Brady around. See Flacco, Rapist, Peyton...

>>65177168
And Robert Horry is better than Michael Jordan, LeBron, Kobe, Magic, Bird...

>>65177149
>>65177168
QB stats are affected by team performance too (o-line, receiver performance). Not just your team but the other team's defense.

So now that we've established that QB stats and SB wins are both affected by team performance, it really doesn't matter which you boast.

Because 20 years from now people won't be saying "Hey remember when Peyton had slightly better stats than Brady?" They'll be saying "Remember Brady's 4 rings? Oh hey remember that other one.. uh... Pat? Paul? Oh yeah Peyton! He only won 1 SB but I heard he played good!"

>>65177149
>Best QB is done via QB stats.

Stats don't tell the whole story in sport.

>>65177149
>There's a reason there is no ring argument in Baseball.
Maybe thats because the world series has worse viewership than college basketball

>>65177203
No. SB wins and QB wins are nowhere near on par.

QB still needs to read the defense and throw the ball.

What is Babe Ruth remembered for? Stats or rings?
>>65177205
They do. That's how you quantify who's better at what when.

The sad part is even if Peyton shits the bed and the Broncos lose in the SB, people will keep on regurgitating this dumb debate.

>>65177194
>rapist
If you want to troll, use eli.

>>65177203
If Joe Montana never existed, do you think we would've grown up hearing that Bradshaw was the GOAT? Doubt it.

>>65177019
>Quarterbacks never go head to head

So why even bother with rings then? Peyton's not going head to head against other teams you fucking dumb sack of shit

You can't say Brady is better because of the team accomplishment rings then get all bootyblasted when someone says Peyton has the better postseason head to head record

>>65161419
I dont think you know what the defense does.

>>65177196
How dare you sully the name of bog shot bob?!?!

>>65162359
Bledsoe had them in the playoffs

Bill's talented in drafting, evidenced by his manuevering to select Ray Lewis, and discovering one, Tom Brady.

>>65177210
It doesn't

And viewership has nothing to do with the stat argument

>>65177236
>this fat moron is still saying "head to head"

>>65177228
>boreball

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Manning made Brady his bitch.

He came out and struck early which put Brady into damage control from the get.

Peyton is the reason Bradly was forcing balls all day.

>getting cucked by a geriatric with a noodle arm
>the city of Tim Bradly

>>65177210
That has nothing to do with rings

>muh head 2 head

Do you think Peyton would rather have 4 rings or a 3-2 record """"against"""" Brady?

Think about it. Your head 2 head meme is fucking stupid.

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>>65177253
>this fat literal retard says "MUH RINGS" then gets buttmad when Peyton has the better H2H

Also you're ALL wrong. Quarterbacking isn't judged entirely by rings or stats. It's judged by STORIES and LEGEND.

>>65177273
>this obeses /v/irgin cuckold still thinks saying Head 2 Head is even valid when Peyton and Brady do not compete against each other at all

>>65177268
It's no dumber than talking about rings. It's literally the same concept

>>65177095
He's a post-season home babby. Losing record away means he sucked some dicks today. He'd never win an owl from the 3.

>>65177249
>It doesn't
except it does

And it just shows how old and out of touch boreball fans are

>>65161574
if manning wins 10 more rings, he's still shitter than brady

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>>65177280
>this fat virgin cuck aspie thinks "MUH RINGS" is valid when football is a team sport then proceeds to sperg out over the fact Peyton has the better postseason H2H

>flat out refusing to run the ball against the best pass-defending team in the league FOR THE SECOND TIME THIS YEAR

Was this Belichick's worst coached game?

>>65177286
Except your H2H "concept" doesn't even exist in reality. There is no H2H with Brady and Manning.
You know what does exist though? Brady's 4 rings and Peyton's embarrassing 1-3 (soon to be 1-4) SB record. Those are real tangible things and concepts.

>>65177291
No it doesn't. You're just trying to insult baseball to distract from the fact you have no argument

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>>65177307
Peyton's H2H record against Brady is 0-0. Brady does not play on defense.

Peyton's H2H record is 3-2 against the Patriot's defense.

Now go be an obese /v/irgin aspie somewhere else.

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Lol I'm a raider fan and fuck both teams but this game was way better than the Cardinals

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>>65177312
>doesn't exist in reality

So Peyton doesn't have a 3-2 record H2H against Brady. They have never played against each other in the postseason

Yet Brady and Peyton somehow play offense, defense, and special teams

Lmaoing at your life kiddo, gtf outta here.

>>65177309
They were down early. Manning came with genius and the broncos were up, rendering running pointless. Jackson had some success but couldn't sustain it for breakout gains.

Bronco defense really is that good.

>>65177328
So Brady's teams have 4 rings while Peyton's teams have one ring

Meaning neither QB's have any rings

Okay, just thought I'd clarify that

>>65177334
Nope. Brady has never played Peyton.

Maybe they've played board games where their skills are actually pitted against one another, but they have never once played against each other in the NFL.

>>65177321
>No it doesn't.
>world series average veiwership : 15 million
>March madness final four: 20 million
get lost and take your shit game with you

>>65177348
Brady has 4 SB rings in his house.
Peyton has 1 SB ring in his house.

Any other things you need explained? I can teach you how to boil water while we're at this.

>>65177349
That's interesting because I could've sworn they were both quarterbacks today

manningfags getting absolutely BTFO ITT

>>65177371
Yes and during an NFL play there is only 1 QB on the field.

Any other questions, retard?

Do I also have to explain why Pluto isn't a planet anymore? Or are you going to put up some more arbitrary, illogical arguments?

>>65177362
>Outplay person for years
>Turned 2 shit tier teams into playoff contenders
>Win more MVP's
>beat said person in playoffs more than they beat you
>They're better because team carried them to more Owls.
Charles Haley was already mentioned in the thread, has more rings than Brady, so he's the GOAT right?

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>>65177362
Brady and Peyton have absolutely zero Super Bowl rings

Their teams do

They have literally never played the games by themselves

I'm literally laughing at your autistic hypocrisy, I just posted this on Facebook and hundreds of people are literally laughing at your life right now

>H2H m-m-means nothing!!!! B-b-but muh team accomplishments!!

AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHH

AHAHA

>>65177391
Actually the team has the Lombardi, the players each get their own ring.

Don't you know this, fatty?

>18-1s getting btfo

>>65177387
So what you're doing is being intentionally retarded and evading the point that Peyton literally has a better head to record than Brady in the postseason by taking this as a literal implication that they are playing against each other

Then you bring up rings when Brady only plays QB and has an entire team around him

You seem very stupid

And upset ;)

>>65177389
>"""outplay"""
>still end up with less rings

Is Peyton the most laughable QB in the NFL right now, bros?

>>65177420
There is no H2H record with Peyton and Brady. They have never played an NFL game against each other.

You seem to be confused about this.

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>>65177403
So the individual player didn't win the title and you're just bragging about which QB looks like more of a fag with more jewelry on his hand

>obvious former obese and probably still fat sack of shit getting upset and projecting his own insecurities

hahaha

hahahaha!

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>>65176827
>5 NFL MVPs
>14 Pro Bowls
>10 All-Pro selections
>Superbowl MVP
>All time leader in passing yards and touchdowns
>Unironically suggesting the left side is more impressive than the right
>JUST

Broncuck arguing doesn't even matter. Brady will go down as arguable the greatest NFL QB of all time and Peyton will be on the same secondary list as Johnny Unitas and Kurt Warner.

Man I really thought the Brady/Manning argument was dead after last year, but now that the greatest playoff QB ever has a losing record in the playoffs to the worst playoff QB ever things just got hilarious

>Archie Manning's kids about to have as many rings as Tom Brady Sr.'s kids, with all four of Archie's spawn's rings be at the expense of Tom Brady

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>>65177437
http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl-news/4621195-tom-brady-vs-peyton-manning-record-stats-patriots-broncos-afc-colts-best-head-to-head

Sorry. I'll take an accredited sports source over some clearly butthurt aspie who had too much sugar today

Shall I call your mommy to give you a glass of milk to help you sleep, little bitch?

>>65177459
A link to a website doesn't change basic logic, fatty. Brady and Peyton do not pit their QB skills against each other. They go against defenses.

Peyton literally has a better postseason QB rating than Brady

>>65177452
Id put them both in the elway marino montana bracket. They each have good styles of dominance.

Peypeys better :^)

>>65177423
>Get carried by a system
>More impressive than lifting a shit tier team into being constant playoff contenders.
Peyton has done this twice and yet people still deny because they're mad he outshines Brady in literally everything except signing with a team that already had weapons.

>>65177465
Oh I see, you're literally a fat sack of shit with actual autism that you don't understand basic language

Which is interesting consider you still somehow bring up rings when Brady and Peyton don't play every position in the field

Oh that's right, you're a fatty fat fat fat sack of shit aspie

hahahaha!

:)

Reminder that when the Broncos lose the SB, Peyton will become the Buffalo Bills of QBs.

>>65176995
Why do you Manning fags go there and not realize how stupid you sound. Manning went against that team with nearly the exact same players and had the worst choke job ever while passing to a wide receiver corps that had like 3 pro bowlers while Brady went in there like a champ and beat the Seahawks using 5"6 white boys

>Bordyfags literally poopooing their pants crying right now that Peyton is LITERALLY better

Haha!

Hahahahahaha!

>>65177455
Irrefutable evidence of God.

>>65177477
>implying Peyton hasn't been carried by the Broncos defense

>>65177477
>Peyton has done this twice
When? In 2006 when his defense and vinatieri carried him to a ring?

>>65177501
Better than throwing 2 interceptions to the Broncos defense lmao

>>65177501
>>65177508
Let's be real, you probably aren't Bronco fans so you don't know. But I am, so listen to the truth.

Peypey made this team. Tebow gave them belief, and the city hope, peypey trained us into football royalty.

>>65177501
>Brady gets carried while throwing 2 INTs
>This is okay
>Peyton doesn't score on every single drive
>He's an anchor.
>>65177508
Look up the colts pre manning and the broncs pre manning.
I'll wait for you to tell me these were just isolated coincidences.

>>65177487
He's won a super bowl, retard.

It's impossible to compare him to the razorcakes.

>>65177545
Brady was making magic out of what should have been an embarrassing night... and Manning did make the colts into regular season juggernauts but in their superbowl years he played pretty average and his defense came out of nowhere and dominated

>>65177616
So what you're saying is, if your team can carry your sorry ass hard enough it's okay to throw picks and panic whenever you face any kind of pressure, but lifting a losing franchise to be actual contenders means nothing if you don't score at least 5 TD's a game to win?
Cool logic bro.

>>65177545
They were both middling teams. Same with the patriots, same with every team before they get their stud qb. Where were the saints before they got Brees? Or the niners before they got Montana? Turns out having a HoF quarterback gets you 4-5 more wins on average per season.

>all the manning cucks that want to bring up h2h but ignore playoff records and playoff statistics

>>65177644
>lifting a losing franchise
>won a playoff game with tebow
>2 losing seasons in decade prior to manning arriving
>losing

>>65177644
>Broncos insane, historic pressure
>any kind
I thought it was brilliance by Brady to throw the ball away so often late to escape the sack and stop the clock.

Even at risk of intentional grounding he's whipping the ball out. We should have had 10 sacks that game

>>65177644
Let's put things into context. When Manning faced pressure like this he caused the Broncos to lose 43-8 in the SuperBowl but when Brady faces pressure like this he keeps his team at 20-18 while giving up two chances at fgs in the last 2 drives.

>>65177649
And where were the pats the year brady was out?
Oh, they went 10-6.
Strange that they don't seem to need him as bad as Bradyfags think.
The patriots have enough weapons to deal with an average QB, it's a fucking system.
Peyton MADE his teams.
Anyone that denies this is retarded and shouldn't discuss football.
Literally anyone can panic and throw to Gronk every 3rd down, which worked as well for Brady this game was it would have for me, because the nigga can't make plays.

>>65177650
>playoff records and playoff statistics
those are team stats though

>>65177699
>Says this when Brady threw 2 picks in the Owl last year and the Seacucks couldn't make a play off those because of New England's defense.
>It's okay when Brady is carried!

>>65177705
I'm talking about individual statistics if you have better individual statistics and better record that's really the only argument you need for whose better in the playoffs

>>65177700
They won 5 few games and missed the playoffs.
They went from the most dominant offense in football to middle of the pack.

They were also 5-11 the year before brady came in, yet that conveniently never gets brought up.

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>>65177718
>Face different teams
>Compare stats as though they were playing the same teams.
Only reason this would make sense is if they were divisional rivals, and they're not.
Best metric for comparing QB's that aren't in the same division is head to head stats, simply because you don't face the same teams in the playoffs simply because you lose one time and you're out.
I hope you dickheads can piece this shit together without me needing to hold your hands like a fucking special needs child.

>>65177715
Are you mentally ill? He threw for 4 touchdowns with 323 yards needing your defense to bail you out on two bad plays while shredding apart one of the greatest defenses ever that embarrassed the opposing team the year before is not being carried in any sense

>>65177718
Peyton has better average stats. A monkey could put up the numbers brady did if he had 25 games to do it.

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>>65177766
>Throw 4 TD's
>Give the enemy team 2 free possessions.
>Defense bails you out AT LEAST 2 times because if the teams are neck and neck turnovers should equal scores.
>STILL need the defense to save you in the final moments of the game
>"B-but 4 TD's"

>>65177699
Manning had to go out against the Seahawks and play from way behind while his defense got pooped on, Demarcus is fumbling, his center over snaps the ball, special teams let's up a kick return. Now he has to go out and throw a bunch of TDS on perhaps the best secondary of all time? He can't do it when DT is dropping balls
>>65177616
>brady was magic
I think you mean Gronk. Brady is just a dragon thrower

>>65177778
Peyton has played 25 games Brady's played 30 Brady has 2 more interceptions but 17 more tds if someone were to have playoff stats of 17-2 td ratio they would be considered the GOAT not a monkey

>>65177780
>almost blow it by giving up a miracle catch when the game is on the line
>saving the game

>>65177824
>Stop the seahawks from going ahead 2 possessions on INTs alone
>Stop a drive but still have a neckbeard complain you didn't stop them with a 3 and out.
Are you seriously retarded dude?

>>65177095
*

>>65177759
That's literally the dumbest thing I've heard all day the best way to compare two quarterbacks is a mixture of team success and individual statistic otherwise someone like Mark Sanchez would be considered the GOAT because he's held his own against both Brady and Manning throughout the years but outside of games against them he's been one of the worst qbs in the league

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We can all agree Montana is still the GOAT, Right?

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>>65177845
>the best way to compare two quarterbacks is a mixture of team success
Fuck off retard.

>>65177836
>give up an 80 yard touchdown drive in 30 seconds right before the half
>bailing you out

Brady's difficulty level was at a 10.

Manning's difficulty level was at a 2.

>>65177780
This is just dumb the only serious argument you could make about Brady's performance in that game is where it ranks in all time superbowl performances and you're here trying to argue that he was being carried?

>>65177849
Nah, Montana would have been KO'd in the divisional round.

>>65177857
You're right team success is pointless Kirk Cousins is a better quarterback than Cam Newton

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>>65177883
>Getting to play the Bills Dolphins and Jets twice every year
>Complains when Brady can't pad his stats
Ben did it :^)

>>65161006
I love the Broncos, I love Peyton, but if anyone argues that Brady is not better they are fucking retarded. The argument is over, and if you are a Broncos fan and disagree you are a dumb ass.

Brady might honestly be the best ever. Focusing on that rivalry which has been over for years is a waste of time. Defense. Thats why we won and that's how we can win the super bowl. It isn't Peyton's team. He will always be a Colt. With Von, Wolfe, Ware, Talib, Harris Jr., Roby and Ward why the fuck are you all even talking about Payton?

>>65177928
How is that relevant?

>>65177857
Team success and stats are pretty much the baseline for how MVPs are chosen I don't see why using that to compare brady and manning is such a big deal

Just a reminder to every Pats faggot and pony cuck here that the cards made it just as far as the Pats did and got brutally raped.
Prepare to get Blacked 2 weeks from now, your shit teams are irrelevant.

>>65177954
Because you can't complain about how hard Brady has it when your shit ass division hands you a free ticket to the playoffs every year.
I wish the Pats were an AFC North team, you thought having 2 injured players was bad, you'd never ever make the playoffs in a division that wasn't in the cupcake league.

>>65177984
No, I just meant in the AFC Championship.

The Broncos defense combined with the ineptitude of the Patriots offensive line made the difficulty spike for Brady. I've never seen an offensive line play that badly. I'm surprised it wasn't a complete blowout.

Compared to Brady, Peyton had a nice Sunday stroll in the park.

>>65177984
>shit ass division hands you a free ticket to the playoffs every year
The only good division in the AFC is the AFCN. Every other division is a free ride to the playoffs for a halfway decent qb.

>>65178032
Every play felt like two rushers came free in under 3 seconds. I don't know if denver is that good or the oline is that fucking awful, but considering that's how the last few games of the regular season looked, I'm guessing it's the later.

>>65177984
>Patriots
>2 injuries

I don't think there was a single offensive player who wasn't significantly injured this year, entire Oline, the 1/2/3 receivers, both starting RBs, Gronk. Brady got his ankle fucked up at the end of the season.

So yeah, I don't really want to hear crying from a Steelersfag. The Patriots were just as hobbled as they were.

Manning > Brady

That's not even up for debate anymore.
That being said, the patriots have a better legacy than either team Manning has been on.

>>65178203
Hah! Even if Manning somehow manages to beat Carolina, he still won't be close to better than Brady.

Put Manning behind the Patriots offensive line, and he would have been out by the 2nd quarter, complaining about his imaginary plantar fasciitis acting up.

>>65178203
This.

Talent wise Brady can't touch Manning, but in the long run his team is superior, and that's really all that matters.

wow what a stupid thread

Manning is obviously better, but Brady is still elite.
His age is starting to show though.

>>65178274 (You)
>>65178292 (You)
>>65178302 (You)
>>65178203 (You)

Manning was trash again. He had all day to throw, and his big throws were simply blown coverage. Did he make a single difficult throw all night?

His defense played out of this world, and they still barely managed to scrape out a win. Wait... I'm being baited, aren't I?

>>65178338
except not
>>65178292

Manning solidified his superiority with this win.

Hrs getting old, but even in his own age he's still the master of the line of scrimigecc

manning has always had the better stats and now has the better head to head win %. It's an open and shut case, he's the GOAT

From what I saw, both of them are mediocre. The only difference was that the Denver defence was better at sneaking behind Brady and forcing him to panic. I don't know what Mannings excuse was for his bad passing, but at least he didn't throw any interceptions.

I'm fairly new to American football, but even I can tell Brady is a far superior QB, at least atm. He had zero protection all game but still managed some great passes. Manning had all the time in the world and fucked up 3 times with receivers totally open.

>>65178338
around the 11:35 mark during the 4th quarter he made a key throw to Sanders, who was surrounded by 3 guys, to get the first down, and this drive ultimately resulted in the field goal that put them out of reach of the pats. could've very well been a pick

>Bradyfags
>complaining about Mannings defense
Ha

>>65161006
nope, any doubt has be obliterated just like brady's rectum

>slant passing babby BTFO

The sad part in all this AFC championship narrative is that what Von Miller did will be forgotten and discarded but he was by far the best player on the field. What he did was borderline legendary to an LT esque level.

>>65178453

Brady is the better QB but I've no idea what game you watched. Every Brady throw was a bomb scare until the last 10mins where he got his shit together. Manning threw some bad passes but was never in danger of throwing a pick or panicking like Brady did. That round went to Manning definitely.

Look being completely serious and objective
This debate ended a while ago Brady ended up being better than Manning and it wasn't close anymore.
It's a nice story that noodle arm Manning has a chance to go out winning one more time but just because he's barely holding on and doing bare minimum to win a game doesn't magically change anything. He missed like 2 open TDs, if Osweiler was in there the game probably would've have even been close.

>>65177031
>Forgetting 3/4 of the defensive backs were injured.
>Forgetting that Brady threw multiple interceptions (one in the redzone) to put his team in that hole to begin with.

>>65162448
NFL is a business first and foremost, so an investigation into one of, if not, the most popular football player of this era a few weeks before the Super Bowl/playoffs would not look good. You will see a lot more people talking about it after the NFL season is done and no one has shit to talk about except hoops.

>>65178240
>Blaming the O-line
So Brady confirmed to be an O-line baby too?

>>65182875
He's always been an O-line babby. So is Peyton Manning. Pocket pressure has always been the trick to beating them. Brady was hit 27 times. That's like every other play.

>>65183073
The reason he gets hit was because the Broncos used 4 and 5 man rushes instead of 7 or 8.

Brady can't sling the ball out in a second if the receiver's lanes are covered. He challenged the Broncos's secondary hard in the first half and got buttfucked by 2 interceptions as a result. So he had to be more conservative, which meant holding onto the ball, which means even if there's only 4 guys coming at you, sooner or later one will get there.

This has always been Brady's weakness.

can't we just settle this once and for all?

Payton = better individual player
Brady = more successful player

both are great

>>65183199
This and
>>65177278
This

>>65183199
Not even close. Will Manningfags stop forcing this meme. What did Manning do to alter the course of that game? Any quarterback could have made those touchdown throws with the linebacker dogging it five yards behind.

The Broncos already beat the Patriots without Manning this year, and now you are telling me that Manning is the reason they won this game?

>>65178240
Put manning in New England since 2000 and he win 5 rings.

Prime Peyton >> Prime Tom

>>65161102
I'm with this Anon.

>>65178090
Little column A, a little column B

Von Miller is ridiculously good. But the Patriots literally had a 4th stringer starting at Left Tackle