Liverpool: D Stoke: D Chelsea: L ------------- The rest of Arsenal's fixtures: ------------- Burnley: D Southampton: D Bournemouth: D Leicester: L Barcelona: L Man United: D Swansea: D Spurs: L WBA: W Barcelona: L Everton: W Watford: D
>>65143941 Is it, because Ramsey was sloppy as fuck, but you talk about that pass like he was amazing, he wasn't. First touch was off, his passing was off, everything was off. At one point, he had the space to shoot, but instead dribbled to Walcott, only to misplace a pass being less than a feet away from the nigga.
Fuck off saying Ramsey was great, that shit is laughable.
>>65143911 >implying there hasn't been a group of people here who has consistently expressed worries about Arsenal losing ground in the title race >b-but you guys will be positive again when we beat burnley 2-1 thanks to an arteta penalty
It's over. Look at Arsenal's schedule, look at City's schedule and look at how many times City has started a run that won them the title and look at how many times Arsenal has started a run that has won them the title in the last couple of seasons.
>>65144157 They're favorites because all the other top clubs in the league are in crisis, yet they're 3 points away from 1st. This is embarrassing and you have to understand that if Arsenal don't win this year, then it's over. This is their best chance to win it.
>>65144235 Yes mate all those legendary chequebook managers who have made it work that definitely exist.
In all honesty, I really hope Arsenal don't listen to man like you who still believe in this stupid fucking meme. Spurs did it, Liverpool did it, Newcastle do it every season, QPR did it, Man United did it. It hasn't worked for anyone. It doesn't work and it will never work, it doesn't matter who the manager is.
>>65144295 You know, fuckboys like you who take a call for more players, maybe 2, maybe 3 and turn it into some extreme situation where the entire team gets replaced, are really retarded to the point of being boring.
Absolutely no excuse starting Mertesacker with a fit Gabriel on the bench. It's a shocking decision and time and again his lack of pace has proved a liability. It's clear as daylight and you don't have to have a fucking football brain to realise we'll be playing attacking football and if we lose it, we'll get done with a simple through ball which Mertesacker has to chase.
It's happened time and again and Wenger never learns. This has nothing to do with signings. It's a stupid and naive decision by Wenger that's cost us the game and we've probably fucked the league too.
>>65144442 has been long coming, you can't rely on other teams choking every year, would only be fitting that they finish above Arsenal in the season where Arsenal could have walked the league with one or two more summer signings and not sabotaging themselves at every opportunity. If Tottenham win the league the backlash will be so huge that Wenger won't stay.
>>65144430 >hummels isn't that good Let's ignore the fact that he's one of the best cbs in the world right now and focus on the issue at hand. Arsenal have Mertesacker, Koscielny and Paulista as the cbs, players that have time and time again cost Arsenal points. DO I need to remind you that Koscielny wanted to yet again give out a free penalty this game but the ref ignored it?
>>65144614 >meme centre half I'm not saying sight Pique, I'm saying you should sign an actual good player and in an area where the team has suffered for years. Calling for Wenger to sign another winger is just stupid because he's not going to sell Walcott and Owngoal-Chamberlain and he's also going to play Ramsey and Wilshere there if everyone's fit and there's also (notfeelingso)Wellbeck. You've got plenty of competent players to put on the wing but at cbs you have shitters.
>>65144682 You weren't, you were replying to someone who said checkbook managers are specialists in handling a large influx of players. That's not the equivalent of him saying he wants a large influx of players.
Also, I don't care, you guys say that shit everytime someone mentions they want new players in, regardless of the amount.
Okay, so let's calm down a bit for 5 minutes and think.
So we're just around halfway through the season. I assume the main title contenders are going to stay the same, so let's have a look.
>Leicester Been absolutely brilliant all season. If they keep this form up they'll win it. But an injury to even just one of Vardy/Mahrez/Drinkwater/Kante would absolutely devastate them. Their squad is thin and not built for a title challenge. I don't think they'll do it.
>City In terms of pure quality, they should be at the top. But they've been extremely inconsistent this season. They've become a very very beatable team. If they turn it up a notch then they can thrash every club in this league, but if they remain the same, they won't win it. Who knows what'll happen.
>Arsenal Aside from a couple fluke losses and this 3 match spell of no wins, we've probably been the most consistent team at the top this season. That being said when we play shit we play really shit, and the players sometimes seem to struggle at the thought of a title challenge. That being said, we've tended to respond brilliantly to defeats and poor performances. We've had massive injury crises this season and we're still thereabouts. Contrary to popular belief, we're still in with a shout, but it'll be very tough.
>Spurs Lol. Please don't fall for the media meme. They're not going to win the title. They'll finish 4th probably, maybe 3rd if they really up their game. They're going to challenge as much as we did last season. So they'll be thereabouts but they'll never actually look like winning it.
also, the football gods must love >us because >we deserve to be dead and buried right now and instead >we're just 3pts behind leicester and city dropped 2pts this weekend (so still 1 ahead of them)
2 more matches to hopefully gain those 3pts back and then a big huge match vs LCFC. if their lead over >us is 3/+ pts heading into that match and THEN arsenal bottles it and gives them all 3pts-- that's when i say the season is over (especially if city leapfrogs >us during that span)
until then, man, at least city dropped 2 this weekend, eh?
>>65144827 Because that's what people seem to want.
Everyone was drooling over Man United, Liverpool, etc this last summer. Every time a club makes a signing Jewmaican does his stupid MUST BE NICE shit and last summer people were actually agreeing with him.
Yeah more signings would be nice but a LOT of people on here wants LOTS of signings.
>>65144937 I won't be mad at all. If they do, fair play to them. I fucking hate the cunts but fair play to them.
I just don't think they're good enough. I think they're a solid young team that has been overhyped by the media and they're trying to convince people that they're title challengers/favourites when in reality they haven't been close to challenging all season.
If they win it then they've proven me wrong and I'll hold my hands up. But until then I'm sticking to this.
>>65144975 Don't get me wrong, I think they have an absolutely fantastic thing going. They clearly have a plan in action right now and seem to know exactly what they're doing.
I just don't think this is the year. In 2 years, they'll probably be up there if everything goes to their plan.
I've said it multiple times before and I'll say it again. I think Redknapp's last Spurs side from 2011-2012 or whatever was better than this one. Until their hilarious drop in form, they were actually challenging for the title. They even topped the league for a time if I remember correctly. They meant business and they were going for it. This team isn't at that level yet, but I reckon they will be once they've matured.
>>65145000 I can't really talk about the media hype since I'm all the way over here, but this is by far the best Spurs squad I've seen since the Modric days. This is the first time we actually have a balanced team with a clear cut strategy, Pochs pnp is legit as hell and for once we don't rely on a single player to be successful and have a pretty neat depth. Realistically, I think we are still dark horses but that's way better than everything I've experienced.
>>65144867 >seem At least you included that word in it, because I think it's a misconception on your part.
It's two extremes that's annoying. I personally started ignoring Jewmaican for bringing up every transfer with must be nice or I humored it by replying without agreeing with the dude. It became increasingly more tedious though.
At the other side, you have posts like the one you made. It's either a reaction or some sort of general statement, which basically comes down to how people who want more signings should take a look at Liverpool or United. Problem with that is, that it acknowledges that they fucked up, but also ignores that Arsenal's way of no outfield players signed is something that looks off as well.
So both of you are annoying. People who go nuts over every transfer every other club makes (or in the Jew's case, transfers like N'Doye to Sunderland) and people who sarcastically spout "WE SHOULD SIGN ALL THE PLAYERS".
>>65145076 I think Redknapp's last Spurs side was better than this one until the capitulation.
This team is really young and inexperienced. I think they've learned from their mistakes of signing wheeler-dealers as managers and sacking managers too early and giving them little control over the club. They've appointed Poch and they've stuck to their guns and didn't sack him despite the slow start. They've let him create the team he wants and allowed them to play how he wants them to play. And it's worked for them. And now they're reaping the rewards.
I feel like they've got a really solid plan in action and the next few years will be very exciting for Spurs fans.
But the title this year? I don't think so. In 2 years? Yeah sure.
>>65145113 >>65145061 I wasn't on that train in previous years. When they had Van der Vaart, Modric and Bale people thought they would challenge, but I thought that was a joke for good reason. They had average defenders across the board in the likes of Kaboul and Dawson and their squad depth was actually terrible.
I'd say it was similar to a few years back when we had Van Persie, Nasri and Fabregas. They're great players, but you can't win the title with fucking Almunia, Denilson, and Squillaci.
Now they look consistent, have a good defensive foundation, and have good squad depth. They aren't a joke.
>>65145191 That's fair, our record keeps me hesitant and I really can't blame you for thinking that way. Good on you for admitting the good job done at the lane, nice contrast to some of the pricks here. Still hate yall guts tho.
ehhh i get what he was trying to do (even tho i don't necessarily agree with it) -- theo has more experience @ CF than campbell or alexis, so if you sacrifice giroud for gabriel after the red you can maintain theo @ RW and have him slide over to be the false/9 when the situation warrants it.
that said, theo hasn't done shit since his goal vs city on 21 dec and i personally was hoping alexis started @ LW and campbell @ RW with giroud @ CF.
the silver lining here = if mert's mandatory 3 game suspension for a str8 red holds up arsene will have 3 games to see if a kosc/gabriel CB pairing is better than kosc/mert, and thus there's a small chance that >we end up with kosc/gabriel @ CB going forward, which might actually help us win the PL in the longrun.
...and of course after that happens, ISIS will unconditionally surrender and tupac will come back from the dead and drop a #1 album
>>65145305 This, mate. This is the first time in years spurs have a balanced squad with a defensive foundation that has a constant strategy that drives the team. Aldeweireld is legit as hell, Walker is playing really, really well, Vertonghen is a bit inconsistent but he's on more often than not, Rose is a personal favorite of mine but I agree he has some off games, but he's good. Davies is a solid backup and a lot of folks believe he should start, Trippier is a good player to rotate and Wimmer hasnt had a mistake in his few matches.
>>65145382 >ehhh i get what he was trying to do Then help me understand because you never addressed the fact that he subbed off Giroud for Gabriel. Let me repeat, he subbed off an in form player that's been banging goals all season(only one in the squad to do it on a consistent basis), a player that's tall and good at defending set pieces and your only striker instead of one of your winger. I can understand being sentimental and keeping on Walcott for his birthday and he does have some nice executions in him that could surprise the keeper, but why oh why would you keep Campbell over Giroud?
[X] buzzword like autism [X] using a proxy to simulate populism [X] butthurt deflected with psychological displacement
empty "autism" cries aside, plz tell me how my deadbeat dad making a child payment analogy is incorrect here. is chelsea supposed to be a defending/champion (who is supposed to be at arsenal) or are they supposed to be a midtable side (LOL ARSENAL YOU LOST TO A MIDTABLE SIDE) ???
you chelski cunts can't have it both ways (although can the CL champions end up in the EL the next season? it might be possible =)
i'm on your side here dude.... i didn't want giroud to come off (i would have taken theo off 2bh) but i'm just trying to rationalize what could have been going through arsene's head to sub off giroud for gabriel.
the only things i can really think of are 1) pace and 2) theo is higher up in the arsenal caste system than even giroud, so when it comes down to having either walcott or giroud on the pitch (regardless of position) you go with theo because...... uhhh.... he's in line for a testimonial sometime soon? idk.
oh and also right now i personally have (in-form) campbell > walcott (who is at least out of form) so if alexis started @ LW i would have preferred to have campbell starting @ RW ahead of theo, who would be on the bench with giroud starting @ CF.
personally i think arsene still has theo > campbell, and then i'd guess that if it came down to theo or giroud (i.e. there isnt positions for both of them) that arsene would go with theo? idk. maybe he prefers giroud @ CF over theo, but when they're stuck with 10 men he thinks theo is more versatile than giroud because of his superior pace and his ability to try and cover 2 positions (RW/CF) whereas i'd pay good money to not see giroud try to play @RW.
but yeah, i'm with you that i would have preferred to see giroud stay on the pitch, even if that means that campbell comes off instead of le artiste.
hell, maybe arsene conceded defeat with the red card and decided to give giroud a rest so he's that much fresher going forward? would you have bet on an only 0-1 loss when mert got that RC? i expected 0-2/1-3 or worse 2bh
>>65145759 ever since the get out while you can thing i've always thought wenger didn't care much for campbell. he had to play him because he had no choice and the lad is seizing the chance, the only player atm i'd play over him on the wing is alexis but i don't think arsene thinks the same
i'd agree with that cuz over the years, for example, ox has been given countless opportunities whilst joel needed an injury crisis to even see the pitch (with a non-league-cup team)
that said, at least right now i'm fairly certain that arsene rates campbell > ox @ RW. don't forget that a cpl weeks ago arsene started talking about ox as a CM, which would indicate that he's trying something new because campbell has vaulted him in arsene's RW power rankings.
my big ? is when alexis is back starting @ LW who's going to start @ RW (assuming that giroud is starting @ CF) ?? i'd guess that theo is still arsene's first choice RW
yeah i know that piers is a veritable black hole of the twitter equivalent of clickbait, but i thought that this tweet was worth a gander so ppl could remember just how hard piers will try to be "that guy"
as an outsider it just seems like it's time, it probably seems pretty comfy doing reasonably well every season but you have some amazing players, i can't even remember the last time you put up a REALLY good challenge for the league and especially not the champions league
>>65146397 Piers is an absolute twat and always has been but you can't say that he is completely wrong. Arsenal have the hardest fixture out of the current top 4 left and are bottling it at every opportunity. Sure Tottenham aren't exactly known for their consistency either but for whatever reasons they have been awfully consistent now and show now signs of fatigue,injuries or letting up while Arsenal continue to try and fuck even the shittiest of teams with a whisky dick of a midfield, a defense that's mostly stable but prone to fuckups in the worst moments and no attacking threat. City will inevitably gain momentum and Leicester has been the surprise packet of the season. One more loss and Arsenal are battling for fourth with United.
>>65147909 Tottenham are awfully consistently slightly above average.
They're gonna get 3rd or 4th. They're nowhere near good enough for the top spot and they don't plan to be. They seem to have a long term project going on.
The title is between Arsenal, City and Leicester. And with Leicester's short squad and unexpected rise as well as City's insane inconsistency, I honestly think it's Arsenal's to lose.
I'm not saying we're gonna win it because we're close as fuck, but if we're gonna win the title anytime soon, it's gonna be this season. I know this loss was a massive setback but I still think we can do it if we get on with it like we've done after our other losses this season.
>>65148146 history tells me otherwise but the only silver lining I'm seeing is that this season compared to every other season is that the injured players seem to return just in time for the decisive part of the season. I hope for once everyone returning gets up and running asap and can positively contribute and not the usual player A returns from (long term) injury while overplayed player B immidiately gets injured. If Arsenal can do that and replicate their good end of the season form after the drubbing from Barcelona in the CL they do stand a realistic chance but that requires continuously massive fuckups from other teams and a winning mentality from Arsenal both things that need a cosmic amount of good fortune. It's not impossible but close to it.
If there's a legitimate replacement on the market then yes, if we don't win the league then he should go. But the replacement should be extremely capable, lined up and have agreed to join. I'm not spending months of not having a manager and then ending up with some meme manager like Martinez.
>>65148934 >history tells me otherwise That's the thing. This season has been against recent history.
Think about it.
It's past Christmas and this is the first real meltdown we've had aside from the desperate WOBs complaining after our fluke losses. This is literally our first run of poor form. 2 years ago we would've had a couple by now and would be out of the top 4 waiting for that late season push for 4th.
Also, we've gotten through the injuries well. Remember that massive injury crisis from a few months ago when we all thought it was over? We've gotten through it and we're still up thereabouts.
We've recovered from losses, which has always been something we've struggled with. Every time we've lost this season, we've managed to not let it really harm our form. We've just managed to keep winning aside from this little rough patch. We've ALWAYS managed to recover which gives me hope that we'll pick our form up and keep challenging for the league.
We've beat big teams. Yeah we've been shit against Liverpool, Spurs, and Chelsea in the league but we've beat United, Leicester, and City with ease. We even beat Munich (even though we got thrashed in the next leg). We've actually beat the fucking big teams. We never beat the big teams, and this season we've beaten a few of them.
I'm not saying it's in the bag because it's far from it. We haven't even paid for the 10p bag yet. But this season has been different. Very different. And I feel like people aren't realising that. I just hope we can fucking do it. Or at least come up as close runner ups.
That's the main issue with letting Wenger go. People don't realise how huge of a decision it is. Klopp (who I didn't think was the man anyway) isn't in the market. Unless we start pushing for him NOW, Pep isn't in the market. Ancelotti isn't in the market.
>>65149464 being a runner up this season isnt fucking good enough you think arsenal will ever get such a good opportunity like this? even city being inconsistent as fuck (or were anyway) and instead of pulling ahead is stuck in 3rd In wenger we rust If only we had signed more than 1 player, can anyone say they are honestly surprised
>>65150084 Nor will he be. Great player, great captain material, but you can't leave a team then go to another and immediately become their captain, or even 2nd/3rd/4th in line. It sends the wrong message to the rest of the team.
>2/6 points v a shite Liverpool side >0/6 v worse Chelsea side in a decade These are the reasons we won't win the title. Should have 9 pts from those fixtures, enough to be comfortably ahead not even including those shit away results v WBA, Norwich and Southampton
>>65149464 You are absolutely right but Arsenal haven't really improved considerably but the league just has gotten, won't call it worse since that would be wrong, more unpredictable with Chelsea and United bombing hard. That doesn't really have anything to do with what you wrote but just for the context in which we are moving this season. Now your observations are correct as I said but >we are always under the assumption that the usual end of the season top 4 rescue sprint will kick in soon this year too. The season is so unpredictable and with Arsenal's general inconsistency I wouldn't bet on it. Blips in form are nothing new happen to everyone but that sets Tottenham and Leicester apart from the other top 4 contenders, when they had one they almost immidiately recovered from just like Arsenal used during the first half of the season. Now we had three games in a row where one should have been a victory, another abject performance against a mediocre playing Stoke side and losing against Chelsea (again) ....the way it happened that's just Arsenal. Another loss against Soton and the club might be able to recover but it might not be enough because the title could be so close this season that I could see the winner getting it with 2 or 3 points difference. If the results and subsequently the player performances (Ramsey has been pretty shit, Flamini shouldn't even start, Walcott could very well be on the bench and Arsenal playing with 10 men every game etc.) aren't picking up right next week I just don't know.
If you take off Giroud to leave pacy manlets to have a chance on the counter, why do you still insist on running the game?
Why not sit back and let Chelsea bother with that? Wenger making mistakes like a schoolboy.
Why play Ramsey as a holding midfielder but at the same time give him a green light to go upfront and be a second Ozil for the team? How do you manage to win against Chelsea with a massive gap in your midfield with fucking FLAMINI being your only player there?
>>65157760 Bullshit he gets beat for headers all of the time. Gabby p better start the rest of the season after that bullshit. Chelsea literally did the double over arsenal in their shittiest season in memory.
has anyone got a gif of Ramsey or whoever that was, letting the ball roll to Ivanovic for the cross to Costa he scored from? The ball got cleared and he barely half-jogged to it, let Ivanovic get to it without even trying... holy shit
If I was Wenger I'd have him benched from now on, but this cuck won't do anything.
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