Would football be more fun if big transfers weren't allowed?
What would >your team look like without gorillion transfer deals?
>Ajax fans daydreaming about holding their ex-players hostage and forcing them to play for the club against their will
Has Dutch football really gone that far downhill? Is everything OK Holland?
>What would >your team look like without gorillion transfer deals?
Depends on how you define "big transfers", here's what the foreign team I follow because I'm a plastic fan would look like without any transfers over 20 million pounds:
Can I pay players as much as I want? then nothing would change.
If I can't, football would be worse because teams would hoard talents and loan them to shit teams: imagine Chelsea but 10-15 clubs doing it.
How is it not a problem? If >we could afford to splash 80M on some 19 year old kid, I'm pretty sure we'd faring a lot better internationally than we are now.
I'll admit that youth development, especially at Ajax, has been... less than optimal for some time now though. Focussing way too much on >philosophy instead of getting results.
Take Boilesen as an example. Genoa were ready to buy him and he then refused to sign a new contract with Ajax last summer. Transfer went south and Boilesen, captain at the time, was degraded to the second team and wasn't allowed to even eat breakfast with the first team. Afterwards he has been pictured as a greedy bastard, when this is not the case. He wanted to play football in a new league and Genoa offered to buy him. As far as I know, Genoa aren't funded by neither Russian blood money nor ISIS funds, so his move wasn't because of the money, but because of the chance of playing in a bigger league at a higher level
Missing in this story:
>Why did the transfer of Boilesen go south?
>Was his handing in a transfer request the only reason of upsetting the club?
>How did he behave when his transfer fell through?
It's easy to pick a side in this story, but there could be a damn good reason why he was put aside like that.
No, this is wrong on several points. Boilesen was told 3 years in advance that if he wouldn't sign a new contract, he wouldn't be allowed to play in his final contract year. With Ajax' reasoning being that he wouldn't contribute to the development of the team and they wouldn't get any return on investment on having sunk time and money in training and developing him, if he would just walk out when his contracted ends.
Cue the final year of his contract, he wants to leave, but refuses a transfer to Genoa due to salary demands, Ajax then offers him a contract at the club's salary cap, which he also refuses. All the while he's been complete shit the entire season.
You can critique Ajax' position, but I think it's justified if you look at the number of times Ajax has been fucked on transfer deals way below market value. Truth of the matter is, Boilesen knew 3 years ahead of time what would happen if he wouldn't sign a new contract and he still choose to take the gamble, completely his own fault if you ask me.
I'm going to ignore what you said and instead just assemble the best Pompey XI I can think of
Yes that's right, once upon a time all these top-tier players played for Portsmouth.
Most of these players were a product of other academies. Ajax buys talent from small Dutch/Belgian teams, EPL/Madrid buy talent from Ajax. It's the same shit.
I used to like Ajax as a club but I'm starting to fucking hate their fanbase with their self righteous, holier than thou "money is bad" attitude
it's funny how some Europeans fans don't want barca real man city etc to take their talents even though their club got a good part of their players from other clubs and academies.
The 6+5 rule would be pretty good.
>At the beginning of each match, each club must field at least six players eligible to play for the national team of the country of the club.
>i dont know what to say so i'll just bring up something totally irrelevant
Would be good, would also dilute the quality of almost any relevant league though.Like, in the EPL, City, United, Chelsea, Liverpool and Spurs would obviously hoover up all the best British talent, where does that leave the rest of the league?Are there even 30 British players good enough to start for those teams?You'd be getting League One standard players in the teams at the bottom of the PL.I'm not trolling, it's not like "Hurr, all British players are shit kek", I'm just using them as an example, could apply it to almost any nation.
Also, could be wrong but I think EU law might prevent it from happening.
Cesc played as a false striker during parts of his time with Barcelona and Spain.
Sergi struck good form spelling an injured Alves at right back earlier this season, such that he's worked his way into the rotation for midfield and winger/fullback spots.
Sorry I can't hear you over the sound of me laughing
NFL style parity just makes legal slaves of the players and has an artificial shroud of parity, it's nothing special and really does nothing to ensure true competition
The MLB is a free market and they have more parity than any other sport in the US
>n-no w-why would I be?
Just forgot him, would actually love to see him back in Madrid
You need a closed "ecosystem" of 20-32 teams for something like that to work. There are simply too many different leagues, tiers, teams and competitions in football to even think about introducing anything like that
>mfw NHL owners' dream is NFL-style parity and non-guaranteed contracts
Adding to what everyone already said: Cesc is a pretty lethal striker when he has the chance:
5:11 to 6:05
6:42 to 7:01
8:03 to 8:25
11:18 to 12:00
13:55 to 14:15
It was either that or Tello-Messi-Pedro or Pedro-Bojan Krkic-Messi. You tell me.
False striker or false 9 isn't the same as a striker, and messi also played that role usually with guardiola and tito better than cesc. Not saying he is bad at that role, only that he is better used on the xavi/iniesta role.
You can add to that line up:
and i'm sure I left a lot behind...
I get it and do agree pham; just that the diagram said nothing about the particular role/style a player can perform in a given position.
Rafinha was earning more minutes at the time of his blown-up knee
Why would i clearly state it will never have NFL-style parity if I didn't already know that it couldn't have it?
I would have said something like "Why can't it".
Congrats on giving me a (You) and embarrassing yourself.
Fine I'll just cut to the chase, if you are the guy that originally asked about my team being a literal who team
I support my local team, and I'm glad that I do. Thankfully I'm not as pathetic as you Dutch seem to be, posting generals about Man City, bandwagonning a team that isn't even in your own COUNTRY.
Someone clarified why
They weren't reprimanding you or anything. They were just being helpful to yourself and others
I could beat you up if I wanted to, but I won't
Consider yourself lucky
What the fuck? Did you even look at the OP pic?
I don't support any of your blood money clubs, I'm a proud owner of an Ajax seasonticket. Sure, I do watch the occasional derby match, but I would never call myself a fan.
Afellay isn't from la masia, he was signed from PSV. Same as Denis Suarez, from Celta de Vigo and Cuenca from Sabadell (I'm not sure about this one, have to look it up)
Didn't put aleix vidal on that list because despise nobi and co. claims he is from la masia, he only tried there for a season and got discarded
Afellay? He showed some promise there but was injured half of the time and Pedro was actually good back then so there was no way he could start.
He still had a crucial assist in that CL semi in Madrid
This thread is retarded, how big a transfer is is relative to the club. For Ajax the ammount paid for Ibra might have been small, but for Malmoe must have been a big transfer for the time, the same applies the other way between Ajax and Juve.You either go full youth system or it doesnt make any sense
I remember people saying he was going to be a future ballon d'or winner here.
Rate River Plate's all youth teams squad senpai
>just fuck my lack of decent RBs up
team with players that play in dinamo and still play professionally
subs: pjaca, halilovic, kramaric, badelj, coric, henriguez
Tottenham's other options on the right wing over the last few years are Lamela (30 million), Son (22 million), and Townsend (shit). I guess you could put Chadli in there, but I'd rather have prime Lennon desu.
>You need a closed "ecosystem" of 20-32 teams for something like that to work.
Why not take the best/biggest/richest 20-32 clubs in Europe and form a league around them? Club soccer would be instantly better.
Lyon academy i great too
bench: Loic remy, N'jie, benzia, plea,Mounier,pied, ferri , balhouli