Why are the patriots always in the playoffs? Are they the best

>>64919379
This is the best 15 year stretch any football team has enjoyed in the SB era, for sure.

>>64919379
They play in a bad division, have a good head coach and good quarterback, not to mention a system that works well for them. Much the same as the 49ers had with Walsh and Montana in the 80's. Take Belichick or Brady out of the equation and see what happens.

>>64919800
>take the coach and quarterback out and the team wouldn't be as good

That applies to every good team.

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>>64919800
>They play in a bad division
i like this meme. somehow no matter how many wins the AFCE gets in a season it's always the easiest division in football and the pats always have a cupcake schedule

>>64919848
Except maybe the Queefs

>>64919867
Never said it was the easiest division or the worst division. But they've never been as good or had the stability that the Patriots have. They're bad compared to Patriots, and their record proves it.

>>64919800
>nfc east

Hardy hardy fecking har

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>>64919923
>>64919800
AFC East is tied with the NFC South for most total wins in a division this season. trying watching some more football before you post next time

>>64919379
when the three other teams in your division are the Bills, Jets, and Dolphins, you are more or less guaranteed a playoff berth

>>64919800
Knows nothing anout football

Fuck off proxy

>>64919848
Not necessarily. Rodgers taking over for Favre, Tomlin replacing Cowher, Siefert replacing Walsh. There are instances where the team continued to have high level success. But if Brady or Belichick retires it won't be the same. They won't dominate like they have in the past.

The pats are comparable to the 80s 49ers, and 70s steelers, and the 90s cowboys. It would be real interesting to see how well the cowboys could of done if JJ stayed.

>>64919800
>the play in a bad division

lmao

>>64919867
The way how the AFC least operates you have two teams that range from not complete dogshit to dumpster fire and one decent team.

>>64919800
Brady's unnecessary, they went 10-6 with a chump QB when Brady was taken out because his knee couldn't take a little hit

The AFC east has been horrible this millennium, the Pats are a great team but the AFC east has been shit with the exception of a few years when the Jets did well

>>64919954
>this season
>this season

You do realize that the AFC East has been subpar compared to the Patriots for well over a decade, don't you? What are you, 15 years old?

>>64919923
>By division over the past decade

>AFC North — 334 wins (8.35 wins per team per season)
>NFC East — 333 wins (8.33 wins per team)
>AFC East — 328 wins (8.2 wins per team)
>AFC South — 320 wins (8 wins per team)
>NFC South — 318 wins (7.95 wins per team)
>NFC North — 318 wins (7.95 wins per team)
>AFC West — 307 wins (7.68 wins per team)
>NFC West — 297 wins (7.43 wins per team)

kill yourself to be quite honest

>>64920017
They were 11-5

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>>64920030
see
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>>64920017
>le system meme

This has already been torn apart so many times. Please stop posting this or, even better, start watching football before you shitpost about it

>>64920051
The Pats put up 14-2 seasons why the rest of the division hovers around .500

>>64919980
Matt Patricia will win an Owl as a Head Coach.

>>64920100
>the rest of the division hovers around .500
>TOTAL SHIT WORST DIVISION IN THE LEAGUE SCHEDULE BABIES

They have a franchise QB.

>>64920123
I never said it was the worse division, just mediocre most years. How many times have the Bills and Dolphins been in the playoffs the past 16 years? How many times have the AFC East have 2 teams in the playoffs during that timespan?

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ITT: bootyblasted Jets, Bills and Dolphins fags living in denial over the Patriots pushing their shit in for most of their pathetic lives

>>64920236
Jest fan here, see >>64920121, my post.

They have a good owner, an all-time great coach, and an all-time great QB. Stability means a fuckload in the NFL, and that's enough to make them competitive in a league that is full of dumbshit owners, GMs, and features coaching staffs being turned over every single year. Hell even teams that improve a bit can fire their coaches, like the Bucs did.

As a Pats fan I have to shitpost and enjoy their current success as much as I possibly can because all you have to do to see what happens when a franchise loses its great coach and QB is look across the division and see the Miami Dolphins of the last 20 years.

>>64920276
stability means a fuckload in any sport, look at the san antonio spurs. having a great coach and a great QB on the same team for over a decade makes a big difference.

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>>64920236
15 years

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>>64919534
It's not like a certain team won 5 Superbowls in the time it took the past to win 4 or anything

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>>64922075
Joe Montana admitted to cheating in interviews lately, saying what the Patriots do is nothing new. Meme-loving fuck.

>>64920056
it hasn't been torn apart. brady is a system babby. cutler could win an owl with the patriots. the only time brady has ever put up hof stats is when throwing to hof talent like moss and gronk. he's overrated and it's disgusting how cheatriot "fans" always throw their entire team under the bus

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Success means nothing without finishing 1st, which they've only done once in the last decade.

>>64919379
because they're in as terrible conference as the afc south but they have better post season success so that point is always glazed over

>>64920031
And the Patriots are 124/328 of those wins, or 38%. If you take NE out of the mix BUF/NYJ/MIA are a combined 204-276 (6.8 wins per team)

>>64923911

A division with one less team than the others has less wins?

Tell me more.

>>64924022
Assuming that anon did his math correctly, it means that the afce without the pats has the least amount of wins PER TEAM.

Anyone who thinks the patriots are in a remotely competitive division needs to remove Brady's feminine balls from in front of their eyes because they're fucking blind. How many wildcard spots has each division put up since 2002? Who has those numbers?

>>64924022
>not understanding how math works
>yuropoor education

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>>64919800
>take away a team's two best assets and they won't be as good

NO SHIT

They win 12 games every single year

>>64924392
>Take Belichick or Brady out of the equation
>Belichick or Brady
>or

Fucking moron. Learn how to read before you post again.

>literally can't make a rational argument that the Pats aren't monsters without using "if"

lel

>>64919379
>Why are the patriots always in the playoffs?
Other teams in their division are consistently shit.

>Are they the best team each year?
No.

>Or are they the best team of all time?

Not even close.

>>64919954
Both of those divisions played the NFC East (kek) AFC South (LOL)

Gonzaga can lose 1 game a year to their shitty schedule, it doesn't make them the best team in the country

NFL scheduling was really weird this year, combined with the fact that the NFCE and AFCS managed to be even worse than usual

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>>64919379
>mfw going against AFC East next year

I was hoping for an easier division for our new coach.

>>64927361

Average Elo rankings by division:
1) NFCW: 1567
2) AFCW: 1544
3) NFCN: 1537
4) AFCE: 1526 [8 games against 2 worst divisions]
5) AFCN: 1516

9001) NFCS: 1492 [8 games against 2 worst divisions]
9002) NFCE: 1459
999999999999) AFCS: 1396

>18-1

because they have the best coach and qb ever

>>64921781

Montana has 4 rings.

Brady has 4 rings.

Brady did it with a

>salary cap
>free agency (didn't have the best WR of all time for 20 fucking years because that's impossible today)

He also made it to the super bowl more. Won more games (reg season and playoffs). And he has better stats when compared to his contemporaries.

Any honest comparison tilts towards Brady. He's the GOAT, period.

>>64926256
are you trying to imply that by removing one of those components wouldn't make the system worse?

Belichick is a skilled coach, Brady is a skilled player. Remove one, remove both, it's bad either way.

I'm literally not even sure what point you're trying to drive home.

Try again?

new england is the goat region

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The rest of the AFC East is trash.

AFC South is the same any year the Colts even halfway have their shit together.

AFC West is usually 50% shit, but only the Broncos ever pose a real threat to go the distance.

AFC North has everybody but Clevleland capable of playoffs any given year, and the Ravens and Steelers are Superbowl capable.

There's a lot of fucking garbage ass teams just feeding wins to the top tier AFC teams. Patsies always try to point out their divisions win record, but those clowns are just collecting wins over the rest of the AFC bottom feeders and the occasional cross-conference match.

>rooting for filler AFC teams that will never win anything
>ISHYGDDT

>>64938644
>replying to a dead thread that the nightly pats autist bumped and not saging

>>64920030
>compared to the patriots

Into the trash, mate. Compare it to the rest of the league. It's been average the last 15 years.

>>64924263

Wild Card Spots (2002-2015):

Pats - 0 (too busy winning ez division)
Jets - 4
Dolphins - 0
Bills - 0

Steelers - 3
Ravens - 4
Bengals - 3
Browns - 1

Colts - 3
Jags - 2
Texans - 0
Titans - 2

Broncos - 3
Chiefs - 2
Raiders - 0
Chargers - 1

>>64939794

NFC

Panthers - 1
Falcons - 3
Saints - 2
Bucs - 0

Seahawks - 3
49ers - 1
Rams - 1
Cardinals - 1

Packers - 3
Vikings - 2
Bears - 0
Lions - 2

Cowboys - 2
Giants - 3
Redskins - 2
Eagles - 2