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Would he be a more respected player if he stayed in 1 club his whole career or if he dominated the EPLel league?
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Everyone already knows that he could dominate the Premier League, he wouldn't be proving anything by going to England.
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He would be an ungrateful piece of shit if he left Barça after they literally saved his life
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he will retire with 5 (maaaaaaaybe 6) ucl medals.

eplel domination isnt needed.
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>>64728216
nah senpai, he's given everything to barcelona, he has the right to do as he pleases
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>>64728273

He could leave, but why would he? Barca can match any wages other teams can offer, he only speaks Spanish, and nobody in their right mind would choose to live in Northwest England instead of Barcelona.
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>>64726136
You mean all those Eplel teams in the UCL?

When will Eplel being the best stop?
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>>64728306
oh, I don't know, but if he ever wanted to leave he should be respected in his decision. I would even say be allowed to leave for free but, considering he would end up in direct opposition and probably a ridiculously rich plastic club, not so sure about that lel
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>>64728386
>When will Eplel being the best stop?

OP didn't say it was the best. But every top player is linked to a Premier League club at some point because English teams are already ridiculously rich, and about to become even richer with that new TV deal.
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he's never going to play for another european team. there's a chance he'll play for an argentine team, probably one in rosario, when he's in his mid thirties, but that's it
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>>64728187

he can't do shit without iniesta or busquets
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>>64728717
funny how it used to be iniesta and xavi until xavi retired. Now it's iniesta a busquets. Then it will be busquets and whoever, etc. Funnier when you consider iniesta only gave a single assist during last season's whole liga campaign.
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Z E R O

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world cup titles
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dunno, you'll never know.

know full well that if hazard or de bryne were in lol liga they'd be banging them in every week.

tends to be they come over here, have a decent couple of months, then get found out.
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>>64728947
>know full well that if hazard or de bryne were in lol liga they'd be banging them in every week.

>Messi banging them in every week in La Liga
>Messi banging them in every week in the CL
>Hazard/De Bruyne not banging them in every week in EPL
>Hazard/De Bruyne not banging them in every week in the CL
I don't see how that would equal to Hazard/De Bruyne banging them in every week in La Liga
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>Stay at one club
>You're a one club one league babby
>Change clubs
>You're a mercenary
Can't win with /sp/
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>>64728947
if talking about messi:
>dunno, you'll never know
if talking about 'premier' crap:
>know full well they'd be banging them in every week
o-ok
also, lol at hazard scoring goals every week. What a fookin 'premier' scam he is
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>>64728886
>tfw you see your reflection in the world cup trophy
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>>64728947
>lelpl
might as well send them all to europa
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He dominated United, City & Arsenal in the Champions league. What more do people want? Stat padding against New Castle and Villa? Ridiculous....
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>>64730839
he never dominated chelsea in the CL
this would be his chance
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>>64730935
So if they draw Chelsea in the CL and he nutmegs Hazard the meme will end?
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>>64726136
Messi can't do it in a cold night in Stoke.
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He'll go down in history as the ultimate system baby.
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Guardiola will take him to Man City af
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>>64731301
He's already down as one of if not the best player of all time lad
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>>64728457

>messi will some day be in his mid thirties
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>>64731412

Not until he wins a world cup
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>>64731556
no he will DIE because of all the doping
[(if he doesn't kill himself before that)]
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>>64728187
>But muh physical "English" defenders.
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>>64731638
You mean not by you. I assume your opinion matters to professional footballers, coaches, journalists and the general public
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>>64728886
The same as your country, forever virgin in divegrass.
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at this point they can rename "camp nou" to "camp messi" and build a statue infront of it

Messi made Barcelona what it is today
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Every footballer respect him. Only some small dying vietnamese anime forum users seem to hate him cause they can be anonymous. Face to face we would all jerk him off.
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>>64733988
>at this point they can rename "camp nou" to "camp messi" and build a statue infront of it
both are coming but not until he retires. the stadium name probably not until he goes back to his planet
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Say he goes to City, is there anyone in doubt he would tear shit up with De Bruyne on his right, Silva on the left and Aguero in front?
t. Liverpool fan
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>one club baby in a team tailor made for him
while scoring a couple of goals against literal whos every week
not to mention the blatant use of roids that probably everyone at Real and Barcelona does.
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>>64726136
>the EPLel league
>the English Premier League league
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>>64734462
and pep back at the helm
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All these le ebin contrarian kids disputing that Messi is the objective GOAT... I understand you want to be le cool rebellious special snowflakes but denying he's the GOAT just makes you look like a retard. Just stick to >I rate Zidane threads.
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>>64734485
>literal whos
relax and enjoy
>a team tailor made for him
what does this even mean kek
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>Messi isnt the GOAT
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>Messi is a systembabby
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>>64734600
Man, Boa is such a good defender, it pains me to see him humiliated like this.
Especially when all the bandwagon fans with short memory say shit like "he'll always be remembered as the guy who Messi put on his ass" even though Boa had him in his pocket in that WC final
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>>64734829
>he'll always be remembered as the guy who Messi put on his ass"
It's true desu, most people will remember him for that.
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>>64726136
>Ronaldo
>Maradona
>Ronaldinho
>Zidane

You don't lose respect by not playing in inferior leagues m8
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>>64728886
>>64731301
>>64731638
>these flags
>these posts
Americucks and canacucks, the perfect combination.
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The fact is we'll never truly know how good Messi is unless we've seen him do it on a cold Tuesday night in Stoke
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>>64734462
Holy shit that sounds amazing. The ultimate CAM. Aguero would score 30 goals in a season injured or not.
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>>64726136
He would be less respected if he came to the EPL because he would be found out and disappoint everyone.

Same reason Zlatan has always been scared to come. They just can't compete in that league.
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>>64734829
the moment he scored that goal a commentator on catalan radio had the exact same concern as you do. Basically said the same thing you just did and warned about the imminent avalanche of memes online lel
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>>64735393
>They just can't compete in that league
>alexis and cesc join the 'premier' league and become instant stars in their first season
wew
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>>64735407
Are we talking about Alexis and Cesc? Oh that's right, no we're not, we're talking about Messi and Zlatan. If they believed, like Sanchez did, they they could make it in the EPL they would have by now, but they know they will not.

As for Fabregas, you know he started his professional playing career at Arsenal right? And was there for over a year before he started making proper first team appearances? Hardly becoming an instant star is it?
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>>64735429
Maybe Messi enjoys living in Spain and doesn't want to change his entire life to prove a point that the CL was made to prove?
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>>64735443
He obviously doesn't care much for his profession then if he's not even willing to relocate for a few years for it.
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He proved at the WC that he's nothing more than a luxury player who can't perform without a stacked team behind him. In a more level playing field like the Premier League, he'd be a 20 goal a season player at best.
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>an entire thread based on the premisse that Messi still has something to prove
fucking janny, this is the shit that belongs in >>>/trash/
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>>64735479
This desu his record in the EPL would be more similar to his Argentina record (49 goals in 105 games) than it would be to his crazy La Liga numbers
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>He should prove himself in a league where ALEXIS SANCHEZ is a superstar and looks like he's good.
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>>64735532

m8 don't try and play that game, there's plenty of EPL flops who looked like gods in la liga we could bring up.
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>>64735613
Like Gareth Bale for example.
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>>64728835
Really? What the fuck
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>>64735479
>>64735504
you are pretty much right, personally i think he could get lucky and have a 30-goal-season but he wouldn't be able to do that consistently

the playing would be much more like as when he plays with argentina because everything is so equal between the teams in england he isnt that much better there
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No, EPL is a joke. The only way to improve his legacy is winning a World Cup, that's it
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>>64735624

You mean the guy who matched his best Spurs tally while having to play second fiddle to Ronaldo, single handedly won the Copa del rey and scored the winning goal in the CL final, winning Madrid their first CL in over 10 years?

I was thinking more along the lines of Diego Forlan, who was below Heskey tier here, but a 30+ goal a season player in Spain. Or Carlos Vela, or should i say Carling Cup Vela, who became one of the best players in La Liga. Or perhaps Roberto Soldado, Iago Aspas, Flopcao, Di Maria, Freddy Kanoute, Jose Reyes etc.
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>>64735429
Messi is the best and most condecorated player in the world, playing for a team that has won 4 of the last 10 CLs and two trebles in the last 5? years. A club he's grown up in. On top of that he is the 2nd biggest earner in the sport (4th athlete worldwide). Why anyone thinks he would even consider joining the 'premier' league and have to live in shit tier england is beyond me. There's no better team there, nor better football, nor more money, nor better living conditions.

>If they believed, like Sanchez did, they they could make it in the EPL
lel sanchez was pushed out of barcelona because he didn't cut it there with his dribblings to nowhere, his stumbles and his weekly bloopers, he didn't leave because he thought he 'could make it' in the eplel (at arselol of all teams)
>fabregas was there for over a year before he started making proper first team
obviously, he was a fucking minor straight out of la masia

Those two players were barcelona rejects (literally) and instantly became top players in the 'premier' league without any effort. English press members would routinely appear at barcelona press conferences and update luis enrique on their great success there, trying to rub it on his face while the man couldn't give a shit of what they were doing there. Haven't seen them since barcelona smashed the 'premier' winner city in cl and I doubt they will come back now that barcelona won the treble again kek

>this is the player that makes it in the eplel and becomes a star as soon as he arrives
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gG-YzfKDMI
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>>64735759
>makes out that Sanchez was some sort of donkey
>his goal output for Arsenal last season was actually less than the previous season for Barca

And Fabregas always goes to shit once the cold weather comes in, like most la liga babbys who come here.
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>>64735780
>makes out that Sanchez was some sort of donkey
he was, he simply doesn't have the skill to play at barcelona comfortably. whenever he would get the ball you could hear the whole stadium nervously rumour, waiting for the inevitable miss or fall
>Fabregas always goes to shit once the cold weather comes in
funny how it also happened in barcelona, every season, right after winter break. I always suspected it was because of the snow, but not the one that falls from the sky. He's the only player I remember recently being whistled by barcelona fans in his own stadium. That should tell you all about the great cesc fabregas, 'premier' league superstar

It's also quite tellling barcelona went from winning nothing to a treble the season those two left
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>>64735840
>It's also quite tellling barcelona went from winning nothing to a treble the season those two left

Call me crazy, but i think that was more down to Neymar coming good and Suarez signing
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>>64735840

Fabreas was played out of position for Barca. You tried to play him at false 9 ffs. His role was occupied by Xavi, had he not been there Cesc would have been a success no doubt.
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Yeah Messi, you would totally suck in eplel. You played against eplel teams and you were shit. What could you even do beside Vidic and Ferdinand? Kek, surely not score a header hehe.
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if you believe messi has to prove it in the "premier league" you are most likely underage
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How can brits still be in denial about the poor level of their league? In Italy everyone has accepted the drop of quality of serie a as a fact, why can't they?
Is it because muh money?
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>>64736734
It's because of >muh parity
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>>64736745
Serie a has parity too this year but no one thinks it is as good as it was 10 years ago
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>people seriously think that Messi would stand a chance against defences like Tottenham or Crystal Palace
top kek, that turbo manlet would get bullied
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>>64728273
This. And the fee they would get for him is ridiculous I'm sure it would be worth it. Now that mess I basically plays right wing instead of center forward they can replace him with another player almost as good for a pittence of what they would get for him.
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>>64736901
>bullying in E"P"L

Spain tops it even in bullying and dirty tactics too m8
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>>64736918
>Almost as good
>Implying theres a player in the world that is even half as good as Messi
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>>64734829
no, wait, wasn't him being a good defender the meme?
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>>64736901
>defences like Tottenham or Crystal Palace

yeah man, i imagine the rest of europe is quaking in their boots knowing that the mighty tottenham might actually make the CL next season
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he should move to the Bundesliga, sign with Wolfsburg or Schalke or some shit and win the league with them
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>>64726136
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>>64744245
Would you put C. Ronaldo in the top 20 all time?
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>>64744285
No, I wouldn't. Top 30, maaaybe
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>>64744245
>beckenbauer, di stefano, muller, best, charton are top 20
>baresi, maldini or buffon aren't
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>>64726136
>Would he be a more respected player if he stayed in 1 club his whole career or if he dominated the EPLel league?
he couldn't be any more respected.
he doesn't need to dominate the epl, everyone knows he would.
why would he want to live anywhere in England when he can live in Castelldefels?
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>>64744377
That is correct. Thanks for your input!
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>>64744430
>That is correct.
Para ti
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>>64731301
I've heard that in return for that smug smile, Messi simply whispered, "I curse your country with a million Muslim men."
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>>64731638
that's of no consequence.
he's the goat with one or without.
methinks you're taking too much of an NBA/NFL/MLB view.
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>>64734431
>the stadium name probably not until he goes back to his planet
MFW
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>>64728947
>>64728947
fuck off deluded bong. he scores and wrecks people's shit constantly in the CL, including (if not especially) against your "elite" clubs and players.
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Don't forget Yaya Toure another barca reject who went to EPLel and won player of the season back to back.
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Wee lad
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>>64734491
>caring this much
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>>64750232
Tbf city totally changed the way he played

At barca toure was the defender/holding midfielder who wasn't allowed to get forward because of all the talent in front of him. And in that position barca preferred baskets for some reason

At City he's a box to box midfielder, one who was initially playing with two defensive midfielders behind him
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>>64728886

This picture and the photographer is a fraud. He's not actually looking at the trophy.
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>>64750834
>preferred baskets for some reason

he got forward a lot more than Bisquick – scored some blooters too – but lacked the positional awareness to maintain the midfield spacing from DM by the 09-10 season.
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>>64735759
>Those two players were barcelona rejects (literally) and instantly became top players in the 'premier' league without any effort.

And notice how Barcelona suddenly became good again after getting rid of both Cesc and Alexis (which were bought at the same time just after winning the last CL)
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>>64735932

Then why did they lose when Xavi was benched for Cesc against the last match of the season versus Atletico Madrid?
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>>64753539
>both Cesc and Alexis (which were bought at the same time just after winning the last CL
and that season no big title was won. as a matter of fact, iirc barcelona had 2/3 seasons without big titles with those two in the team
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>>64753589
Yeah exactly. Fucking cancers.
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Barcelona before Messi era - One (1) Champions League

Barcelona after Messi era - Five (5) , and counting

as much of a recognizable city as it is, they weren't much of a big club outside madridista eyes for 100 years until the GOAT showed up
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>>64753617
He wasn't really a key player in the 05/06 title.

he was like half-important in 1 game (chelsea)
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>>64753638

just like pele in 62 and 70 amirite?
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>>64753647
Pelé was unarguably the most important player in 70 and every player in his team agrees, don't let the memesters tell you otherwise.
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>>64753647
But he was. He was not in 62 because he was injured and garrincha had to carry the team.
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>>64753539
Yes, nothing to do with Messi 2.0, Suarez being signed and Neymar improving
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>>64753617
messi era truly is 3 cl, not even him considers he won the first one. the crazy thing is barcelona was considered a 'big' team even though they had practically no cls
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>>64737459
is that piece of shit that didn't get a ban while suarez did?
fucking spanish federation is corrupt as fuck
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>>64753690
cesc was a pure cancer in the dressing room and on the pitch. alexis simply wasn't good enough. also, as brilliant as suarez is, he is no messi 2.0, not even 0.5
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This infiltration of reddit Barca 'fans' is disgraceful.

They were hated on this board 2 years now there are Barca fans from all corners of the globe.

There are even regular Spanish posters now when before you'd never see a Spanish flag except that guy with the charts who can barely speak English.

Uefalone will go back into obscurity when Pessi dies of a PED overdose
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>>64753764
>english "premier" league
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>>64753764
You sure sound like someone who was sodomized :^)
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>>64753764
>all that butthurt
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>>64753764
>butthurt, le post
please tell me you are a manure fan, only that would make your post even better
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>>64753764
bad post
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>eplel
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>>64753921

Ok I'll pretend it was so disgusting LOL

LE OLD FAG ARMY XD
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>>64753921
MODS
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>>64753921
I don't agree, Hitler probably was NOT the best thing that could've happened to polish people.
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>>64753921
what the fuck
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>>64753921
Why would you post this you sick fuck
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>>64753921
No way he survived that
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>>64753921
Holy fuck


MODS
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>>64753921
How evil do you have to be to do that?
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>>64753708
he does consider he won the first one, he must've played over 100 minutes
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>>64753921
Undertale is a meme game, the MLP of vydia
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>>64753921
DELETE THIS
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>>64753921
As if the human body could survive such conditions for that long!
Either fake or most disgusting thing ever
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>>64726136
If he stays at one club, that will always be his safe home. He would be like a god in catalunya. Far better than any shitplel team, which btw they are all mediocre
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>>64728886

Yes well done that's right! The United States have won ZERO (0) world cup titles!
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>>64753921

Okay friend
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>>64753921
how many time was it?
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>>64744466
why do they need to put a before picture though. Its not like she lost her eyes or got acid poured on her face.
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>>64736901
Considering he made a fucking joke of man city countless times in the CL im sure he can take some random mid table english club that can't even get to the CL
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