>>23333241 uh, idk. i'm usually down for doing anything once if asked nicely enough and you made it clear how important it was to you i guess. it shouldn't be too tough! and maybe offer to do something she'd want to do after or sometime.
>>23333289 Nah its more like my feelings to him >>23333292 Are they?? idk like we both like each other but i feel so gay writing it but can't get the emotion out either way >>23333294 He's on the internet lmao but i guess he's pretty normal iunno >>23333299 I'd hope he'd the same but it may be too soon i do too much when i fall for someone
>>23333340 He does have mutual feelings though haha that sounds so d'awww tho, someone coming to tears >>23333342 tfw when we live too far from each other o wellll and i tend to do the most teasing cause im a damn snake that way that likes to coil around my man
>>23333177 A travel size shampoo bottle when I was an early teenager for the lulz. >>23333187 Eh, probably not but it's not exactly a plus either. I mean when you think about it, in the long term most people lose all their friends after they get married and pretty much only spend time with their spouse. At least thats what happened to my parents. >>23333188 I wish I knew what getting eaten out felt like. Unfortunately I have a bad track record of getting selfish lovers. But I would assume I wouldn't mind since I get some positive sensation out of my tits. Guess it would depend how sensitive the nips are? Though I'm trying to imagine this positioning and it seems awkward lol. >>23333191 get less fat or bang fat pussy >>23333194 idk if its necessarily the guitar or if its just you have passion for some kind of interesting hobby in general, or that you have a skill in something, that makes it attractive. >>23333262 Could be. Could be she doesn't do nudes in general, I know I dont because I don't wanna end up on the front page of 4chan. >>23333349 Nah, I go through bouts of daily masturbation myself. Hell I'd rather a guy who feels good about taking care of himself than expecting me to take care of it all the time if I wasn't in the mood.
>>23333430 Hah maybe its because I'm a straight grill but shit, vaginas are flappy gaping black holes man. Not that either set of genitalia is necessarily attractive, but at least with dicks everythings just right there easy to see lol.
>>23333445 Some dicks when they get hard they point slightly upwards. Bending it down when its really hard is not possible. So you can't aim for the toilet properly. Need to wait a few minutes sometimes for it to get slightly soft and then you can aim.
>>23333447 lmao not gonna lie for some reason I envisioned pic related when trying to think up that position. I mean, youd just have to either blatantly ask or try it out and see how she reacts. >>23333445 > I heard penises can move on their own Not a guy but they can, and personally I find it cute/funny for lack of a better word when they do lol. Its like flexing a muscle tho, as far as I understand. Wouldn't say its "moving on its own" anymore than you would say your legs moving on its own while having a muscle spasm or something. I had a bf once who would just "flex it" every now and then while I was jacking him off for giggles. It was funny, we were a weird couple.
>>23333491 hah to each their own. I'd rather look at dicks any day. No surprises. >like the vagina teeth jk >>23333517 I don't, because I'm probably equally shy. I never assume a dude is into me enough to want me to talk to him so generally if he doesn't approach me first that just confirms my assumption. But that obviously creates a never ending loop when 2 people like us get in a room together doesn't it? Makes it a self fulfilling prophecy in a way. However, from observation and experience, I find that on average women rarely actually initiate anything, but rather lay the nonverbal ques of "I'm into you" on realllly thick in hopes you'll talk to them. And even after the initial conversation starter, they'll use the same tactic to get you to take the step further (getting phone number, dating, etc.) Unfortunately for you it is just kind of the social norm for you to initiate, by all means break free from these gender roles, but I'm not sure how many women do that too. Sorry anon, I feel for you but I'm not sure how to help. That's just the way the world works right now.
>>23333445 When fully erect, a dick will point upwards or straight forwards if you hold it down. You either have to back up and try to aim the pee in an arc, bend over and squat so you can get a low angle, or wait for it to get soft.
And as for moving a penis, it's connected to the muscles you use for a kegel. A guy can wag it up and down and make it slap his belly.
>>23333556 Yeah, sorry anon. I mean, its hypocritical coming from me since I'm the same way I know, but try working on that confidence. Even if you just say "good morning" or whatever. Even just that meaningless small talk will get you some experience at least. >>23333586 And thats good. I'm a firm believer that confidence gets you further than looks ever will. Like you could be a 4 and get bumped at least 2 levels just by seeming to know what you're doing. You've gotten that far, with practice and familiarity you'll get further and further I'm sure. >>23333613 can you helicopter dick? kek
>>23333685 I think it depends more how long you knew her beforehand. If you recently friended her on fb I'd give it a bit. But if its like a funny pic or article or something I don't see how it can be all that creepy. If its like pics of her and/or her friends I'd def hold back on that until you've gotten to know her better.
>>23333732 I've known her since high school, added her a few months back. Its just funny pictures from other pages. But I feel like I'm doing it too often, especially since I've yet to get a confirmed "date" set. Right now I'm going on a politely worded raincheck.
At least that's what it seems like, she could potentially have no intention of following up.
>>23333277 >>23333363 Different people like different things. If you already know the feelings are mutual, chances are he'll like it. Even if for some reason he wouldn't like the song itself r something, most people very much enjoy it knowing that someone they care about also find them important enough to take the time and effort to make something for them.
My ex started with making handmade things as birthday presents, and I loved it. She was very clear in not really wanting expensive presents as that would just make her feel awkward/uncomfortable. Things we did buy for each other were often simple but symbolic. We ended up making various things for each other for birthdays and Christmas. From stories to paintings to things that could be used on a day-to-day base. Her things were much better than what I could make as she was more artsy by nature, but I loved every single item she made for me. (It's one of those things I wish to see happening again if I ever go for a relationship again; to find a woman who doesn't expect/demand expensive gifts but prefers symbolism and things that took time and effort to be made, as that's the kind of stuff that'd melt my heart as well. I'm cheesy like that I guess, but I stand by it.)
>>23333793 Like they can do with out for a day and nothing will happen. Used to work nights at a plant. Ironically I got up earlier than before. And stay up super late now. Is it physical labor that you do?
So I have two questions for guys and girls I guess if they want to add in their two cents.
Do you feel weirded out if a girl gives you her number without talking to you at all? Is it better to talk to that person first and befriend them? I'm new to this dating thing and someone told me that if I did this, I would look desperate or easy.
Second question is how important is race to you? As in, would you reject someone because of their race?
>>23333546 As a guy, that experience and observation seems pretty much spot on, except it's not always really obvious if a woman has some interest in you. Often enough it takes a keen eye and trial and error (a lot of false positives) in the process when trying to initiate stuff. Sadly it's indeed how the world works right now. Exceedingly attractive looking and charismatic men, men with high social status, can partially get away with it as women will fight over him and occasionally break outside those "gender roles" for them. Anything less than that, including average looking men, will likely forgo any chances if they don't initiate at all. Some will try to break through their shyness and accept the role, some will decide it's not worth the effort and instead focus on other things, some grow bitter and/or "sour grapes" which can take form in several unpleasant ways; I prefer the former two myself, mostly focus on other things and occasionally take some initiative.
>>23333517 I have noticed that the amount of women actually starting a conversation and take ever so slight initiative (after they start, you will still have to carry it and progress it further towards getting phone number, dating, etc.) increases as the age goes up. Where the grand majority of women at younger age still get approached every single moment and love the whole "game"/"hunt" that comes with it, at older age some women stop enjoying that hunt and prefer less nonsense. No longer playing "hard to get" or anything, more straightforward (but again, still very much leaving most initiative up to men), things like that.
>>23333822 reverse the genders. A man walks up to you 'h-hi here's my n-number' - weird right? You'll look like a thirsty creep. Don't do it. Talk to them you fucking desperate cunt.
I would reject someone based on their family before their race. Unless you're implying you're anywhere on the brown scale. I dated a girl like that once and it was fucking hell, every nigger on the block was AY GIRL WHATCHOO HANGING WITH HIM FO.
>>23333822 I'd be utterly confused, as this is a thing that never happened to me before. I'd wonder if it's some joke or other ruse, and if not how on bloody earth to make that first contact without sounding too awkward. But, it would also be flattering in my eyes, though chances are I wouldn't be able to do anything with it as per below.
In my opinion getting to know someone at least a little beforehand is much better. Sure looks are important as well to some extent, but generally you will want to at least get an idea of the other person's personality. I personally prefer to acquaint someone, get an idea of what she's like, and from there consider if she's potentially romantic "material" for me. As a fairly shy guy when it comes to taking initiative, I wouldn't do anything with it unless signs are clear she's interested in me as well; most of the time it ends up in an acquaintanceship where I simply move on and she turns into potential friendship material instead. >I'm new to this dating thing and someone told me that if I did this, I would look desperate or easy. Some might consider that, and there's always a chance someone will pretend to like you back just to get in your pants (nothing different from guys initiating and pretending the same thing for the same purpose, though). However, there are plenty of men out there who are a bit shy, or assume that women don't want them to hit on her, or other reasons not to just pursue blindly. And it's not always visible when you see the guy. (I probably come across as someone who'd make a move if interested in someone, but even with my confidence and undivided attention when talking with someone, I won't without the signs.) You can give your phone number after such a first encounter, fuck those who might call it desperate. You're simply straight forward and avoid a big chunk of those "games" some prefer to play, nothing wrong with that.
>>23333929 Cont. >Second question is how important is race to you? As in, would you reject someone because of their race? Race is unimportant to me, though certain races are generally more attractive to me simply based on more common physical traits found within races. Beautiful and ugly people exist within any race though.
>>23333891 Nice to hear that. There's just something about a person willing to put in that time and effort to show their feeling towards you, you know? Anyone could buy fancy things or give money, but it's the more personal things that make a difference to me.
>>23333822 >>23333822 >Do you feel weirded out if a girl gives you her number without talking to you at all? I would be surprised, I would actually enjoy it, its the same like hitting on some stranger on the internet, just in person. >Is it better to talk to that person first and befriend them? I really dont know, I guess it will show if its working out or not. >Second question is how important is race to you? As in, would you reject someone because of their race? I wouldnt reject someone because of their race, I dont find black women as attractive as white or semi-black women. But this is more of a personal preference than a race thing. I dont mind if its an asian, latina, white or whatever woman.
>>23333822 I wouldn't say "desperate or easy", just pretty strange.
I had a girl give me her name/number at a mall one day it was more confused than anything. Turned out she was 12 or 13 and I was 19 at the time so I dropped that quick. Just say hi and chat at least a little first, if you're still interested afterwards get/give numbers.
>>23334045 What helps for me is trying to focus on what I can do and do have, rather than what I can't do or don't have. Working a shitty job with shitty wage, I only barely manage to rent my own temporary apartment, but I do have a roof over my head and some independence. I have no gf and probably couldn't get one if my life depended on it, but I do have other things in life I can do; hobbies, working on crafts/skills, other things I can improve of myself and even playing vidya. I have a chronic illness and will likely die within the next 15 years (if being optimistic), but it hasn't progressed to the point where I can't live life at least semi normally yet. The list goes on.
The nice thing about the concept of suicide is that you can postpone it, but once you actually off yourself it's permanent. What does it hurt to try and stick around for a few more days and aim for some positive things? Worst case scenario you'll end up drawing the conclusion it doesn't work and you can still off yourself later. It's not like you "wasted" the time you're not dead yet. It's not like you have an appointment with death or that you will miss your chance of dying if you postpone it. It's the 1 thing in life where procrastinating an action has no significant downsides.
Of course, all of this means nothing as long as you're not genuinely/sincerely interested in trying to get out of the vicious cycle, which can be, nay, IS a fucking pain.
I know I'll end up offing myself once the pain gets too severe as I don't want to suffer needlessly. However, since I finally actually tried to get out of the cycle some years ago, my life has been much better. Even if shit was to hit the fan right now and all that;s left for me is to carry out that plan, I didn't lose out on anything by NOT being dead yet.
It's up to you to decide giving up on life is what you want to do. Personally I find being a virgin and >tfwnogf to be shitty reasons of doing so, but to each their own.
>>23333822 I wouldnt think you're desperate, but I probably wouldn't call you either. I know nothing about you, I'd say it always better to at least introduce yourself in person. >Race Yeah, theres some races I'm just not physically attracted to. But honestly they could just be unattractive to me in general outside their race. There's exceptions to everything, but generally I find most black and middle eastern men unattractive. Just not my thing. Hispanics are usually hit or miss, white guys are hit or miss, I tend to find more azn guys attractive than I don't. That's my personal racial attractiveness hierarchy. They can all be great or shitty people, don't get me wrong, but physical attractiveness is a piece of the puzzle for me when choosing a partner that I can't just ignore completely. It's a smaller piece, but still there. >>23333931 I dont mind pubes so much as long as it's not like full jungle. Or at least if it is don't expect me to suck it. However I hate chest hair. IDK why. Just don't like it.
>>23333187 Guy here, but I only have one good friend that I hang out with and it's never been an issue. Zero friends may be a little weird, but very few friends is perfectly fine depending on the person.
>>23335604 Probably not your target audience, but I wouldn't because I already have no desire to bang a dude with a very large dick. It's unattractive to me in general and just looks uncomfortable. I'd rather an average dick any day. Really, from what I've seen and the girl talks I've had, on average dudes are far more impressed/obsessed with dick size than we are. If you're not a medical abnormality with a micro penis, you're probably not going to be too small. And as for cases like mine and women like me, big dick does not always = better.
Why aren't girls attracted to how I look? They never seem interested and when I ever show that I am interested they either seem like they totally aren't or outright avoid me... I think I look good, I don't see why I fail so hard with women. What's wrong with me honestly??
I tried so long and hard to be myself and create my own happiness and discover my own path alone but the loneliness, bitterness and utter fails at my attempts to meet people and be confident and take my chances has eaten away at my happiness. I honestly feel a strong unfulfilled in so many human desires or needs that those around me have
>>23335959 Okay. So I've posted here in threads on and off for some time. I mainly just score 4-6/10 rates and sometimes get 7a, but even then it seems like people are being nice there. I don't exactly trust this place but tinder and that how hot are you app made me extremely worried that I need a serious overhaul. Especially with my hair style and maybe fashion style reccs. I know I'm not ugly per se. I just feel like I'm always the weakest of many options a girl might have Thanks in advance!
>>23335999 Uhh you literally asked me to post a pic. And you're an asshole. What negates the fact that I'm as genuine as can be with you people, looking for advice, like everyone else here? Please tell me and I just might fuck off for you.
Here's the thing, at this point your rates get a huge downgrade because of your personality. It's horrible. Your woewaysme attitude and whining is so toxic that any woman who would be interested in you will run away because who you are is worse than how you look.
>>23337349 Honestly, I always felt like Chris Rock hit the nail on the head when he explained something like this:
Women can turn down sex, because since we were 12, everyone has been trying to fuck us. The concept is boring at this point. With men, it is "throw everything at the wall and see what sticks." Desperation, wanting anyone or anything so long as it meets the definition of fuckable.
I disagree that women can't be lonely. Some can. I have a low libido and even less desire for a long term relationship. I can't get off unless it is fucked up rough sex, and the novelty of that wears off quickly (after like 2-3 sessions). I'm a voyeur by nature, and prefer not to be touched (guys say they are down with this, then panic/falter when it actually happens). I've had entire relationships where I would kiss/snuggle, but the only "sex" involved was me sucking their dick and not allowing them to touch me or reciprocate. Why? Because guys experience insecurity when they can't get me off.
I'm so lonely that I'm trying to learn some dominatrix shit. Not because the cliche boot-licking, spanking and pegging get me off (although I work in the medical field and know my way around the male rectum), but because I could finally have relationships where I'm in total sexual control, could focus entirely on someone else, and not have it be weird/wrong when they aren't allowed to touch me.
>>23338613 Meh. I think most girls feel similarly, but just don't realize it. Except the long-term relationship part, that's all me. I'm a solitary person. I love my friends and family, but after a day, I want space and privacy. I couldn't imagine having someone around 24/7.
I admit though, guys have it way, way worse. Rejection is the most painful thing in the world, and having to bear a thousand "NO"s for a single hesitant "yes"? Nope. I'd get a fleshlight or a mail order bride and never deal with that shit.
So yes, I can be lonely, but definitely not as lonely as a man.
>>23338735 Me too. I've also broken my arm, that doesn't mean I've got it as bad as someone with an amputated hand.
As women, we can always find someone to fuck or cuddle with. It may still be miserable, lonely, and unsatisfying, but we can still be desired, pursued, and receive pure tactile stimulation. No matter how gross you are, you will get 100 replies on your CL ad and your pick of men to fuck. Guys? Even attractive ones have to grind on hard mode and experience rejection/futility I can't imagine. There are guys out there who pay prostitutes because it's the only way they can get skin on skin contact.
Don't mistake me. I'm lonely as fuck, and I know you are too. I just recognize that I have options some men don't.
>>23338780 maybe lots of women can, but i was alone and unwanted for many years. i'm 26 and only now have a gf who wants me. don't say it like it's fact. you're not omnipotent.
>>23338773 depends. when i get too overstimulated i talk bunches endlessly about shit nobody cares about, and the only person who ultimately is annoyed by it i feel is me, because i feel as if i'm annoying everyone else, despite nobody saying a word most of the time. just be you :)
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