>An important turning point in British history occurred in 1066, when William the Conqueror defeated King Harold II at the Battle of Hastings. Less well-known is that, when William landed, he occupied an old Roman fort now known as Pevensey Castle, which at the time was located on a small island in a harbor on England’s south coast. A draw bridge connected it to the mainland. Pevensey is infamous because unfortunate prisoners were thrown into this “Sea Gate,” so that their bodies would be washed away by the tide. Pevensey Castle is now a mile from the coast – further proof of a much higher sea level fewer than 1000 years ago.
>>7780319 Duh It evaporated or retreated as they say, now the environment of that particular area can't produce those amounts of water, part of the reason being landscape changes and climate change of that area
>>7779919 Macroevolution is. General relativity is. Conservation of momentum is, particularly with the meme drive calling things into question. However, all of these things are backed by infinitely more experimental evidence than climate change.
Real scientists publish when they're 99% confident in their results. Shitty doomsayer climate scientists start shitting out models and papers as soon as they see a minor trend. The whole field isn't bad necessarily, but Global Warming is a pretty cancerous circlejerk.
>>7780338 >consider blacks inferior intellectually >have a half black wife that's objectively more intelligent than me >still hate blacks because I'm not an idiot that cherry picks examples from a general trend of dindus Computes perfectly senpai.
This is dishonest on your part; of course you've heard "an argument". You could sketch a conventional environmentalist point of view on the subject right now (regardless of your disagreement with same) - and don't pretend you couldn't.
What you really mean to say is that you haven't heard what you have found to be a worthwhile or persuasive argument.
>Your assumption that you can deduce facts out of them (experiences) are false
I'm not either one of you tards having the tardfight. This is the dumbest thing I've read on /sci/ in over a month. I guess we can just pack up and stop pursuing all of the hard sciences then, especially physics. Anything that isn't pure math.
>>7780339 >Where did the water go? The sea level will go down if the water gets trapped on land, as glaciers, lakes, inland seas, groundwater, or water and hydrogen content of biomass and fossil fuel.
For it to change on the scale of centuries, most of that change is likely explained by precipitation patterns and melt rates, although biomass could also be a factor.
>There have been drouts for years and there is a HOLE in the ozone, which is less clouds which is water vapor. Unless you are saying it sent underground lol Even setting aside shallow groundwater and hydrate minerals, water can go underground. There's another ocean's worth already down there in the deep crust, and enough elemental hydrogen to burn all the oxygen out of the atmosphere. Water can also get split into hydrogen and oxygen, with the hydrogen escaping into space.
There has been limited investigation of deep water and deep hydrogen because of how hard it is to drill that deep.
The Earth's surface is not a closed system. Material escapes from the atmosphere into space, and is released from deep within the Earth, and material falls into the atmosphere from space and can be drawn into the depths.
"Heightened carbon emissions are causing a greenhouse effect and disrupting the global climate" makes sense.
"Dude shut down every factory and scrap every car and send trillions of dollars to Africa and Asia so they can build factories and cars instead lmao" makes no fucking sense.
If anything there's only a climate change "debate" because so many climate change PROPONENTS are arguing in bad faith when it turns out that whatever social democratic bullshit they've been arguing for over the last hundred years is *also* the solution to climate change.
It's kind of like when you listen to a dedicated Marxist tell you about how capitalism is responsible for disease, and capitalism is responsible for war, and capitalism is responsible for racism, and capitalism is responsible for climate change, and capitalism is responsible for intolerance, and capitalism is responsible for crime, and...
>>7779957 no model necessary because its a really simple concept. honestly tell me what is wrong with the following:
1. carbon is the main waste product of our modern human civilization 2. carbon is an element that can contain the thermal radiation coming from the earth surface.
what will you debate? carbon isnt the waste product of our civilization? thermal radiation passes through carbon just fine? venus is hot "just because" and not because of its greenhouse effect? you dont believe the mechanism of greenhouse effect? you dont believe literal greenhouses ie for plants actually work?
It is, but water vapor persists in the atmosphere for a few days, while CO2 persists for a hundred years. The long persistence is the reason why CO2 is especially important. But it's true that it really shouldn't be the only greenhouse gas we talk about. For example, methane matters too.
The hole in the ozone layer in antartica is seasonal and natural, it was just another environmental doomsday thing. The levels of ozone replenished far before they could have been effected by a CFCs ban. They are still banned and the ozone layer continues to have a baseline that it fluctuates around. The dangerous part of increased uvb never occurred with ozone at its lowest levels. We are fucking ants. The idea that we can effect the planet in these manners is arrogant.
There is a great deal of money to be made through the spectre of climate change, carbon credits are basically a ponzi scheme. If people gave a shit about the environment we would be talking about cleaning up our oceans and heavy metal waste...the problem is those things are expensive and have actual measurable results so its harder for organizational bodies to pocket the money and walk away.
I have a comment. Underneath the arctic ice are US, Russian and UK submarines full of nuclear weapons pointing at each other. If the ice cap melts, then the submarine deterrant/threat ends. Period. Global warming will prevent nuclear holocaust - delicious irony.
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