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Have Stephen Hawking and other physicists solved the black hole information paradox?

http://arxiv.org/abs/1601.00921

I don't fully understand the paper, does this mean we can extract information from black holes?
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Come on, where are all the astrofags?
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>>7772395
the wheelchair dude did
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THIS IS BIG FUCKING NEWS WHY IS NO ONE REACTING
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>>7772496

Because the last BIG NEWS was they discovered gravity waves and then a few months later it turned out they were wrong.

Im not believing anything anymore until its been proved multiple times over.
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>>7772514
>it turned out they were wrong

what, when?
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Not yet. They tried to express something, which was discovered by string theory, in terms of real physics in an attempt to solve the information paradox. They found something worthwhile and did a proof of concept on how this might help solving the problem. But it is not yet fully solved.
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>>7772514
Technically those would just be the black hole wobbling in combination with these 'soft hairs'... they're very very slow and their causal boundaries, the 'gravity waves', would be that of what the nature of action inside the edge of a black hole would deign feasible.... basically a second dimensional 'total life'

The paper can be most truly noted by how it takes the model of the funnel, puts a horizontally plane through the middle of it, puts a funnel off the edges of the top and bottom of that, then turns it on its side and calls it circumference with the accumulation being of a single vertexes and angles and operating >with< the same matrix as multiple with multiple vertexes and angles all facing and being the same edge in single and multiple places and in that does it create the a production of these 'soft hairs' at the center of the black hole that accumulate into... well... gravity, but with the conditions that the space of the black hole is the fastest thing existing
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>>7772600
I also forgot to mention that it accounts for gravitational lensing do to... well the high volumn of 'soft hairs' that 'arn't physical'; hence the whole 'we're in a hologram thing', but that's just fancy speak for 'we're not aware of all forms of light or mass'
>dark matter
>dark energy
>etc
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>>7772395
Buddy, we barely know whats on our own planet. In your dreams.
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MURPH!
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>>7772600
>>7772609
Please take your meds, you're talking gibberish.
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>>7772395

>What is Hawking Radiation.

Yeah.
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>>7772395
Bump for interest and hope for physicist
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>>7772395
Actually information seems to be really lost in black holes doe to their slow evaporation ( read about Hawking Radiation seriously ). The radiation doesn't carry much information of the black hole, and since it's constantly losing mass because of it ( only relatively because it sucks in more) it's constantly losing information that can never be retrieved. Sorry for bad English.
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black holes dont exist
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>soft electric hair

How / does this relate to the 'fuzzball' concept published last year?
http://arxiv.org/abs/1506.04342
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>>7775302
>MOM I POSTED IT AGAIN
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>>7775294
>Actually information seems to be really lost in black holes

no shit. This is what Hawking et al. address in the paper in order to resolve this paradox and proove that information is actually never lost.
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>>7775554
Isn't it all just contained within the event horizon, just made incomprehensible?
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>>7775555

according to no-hair theorem - no, as the only information about the black hole is it's mass, charge and angular momentum.

If any information is conserved anywhere, it has to be outside of the event horizon - or at it's very edge, as everything else gets crushed inside the singularity which, as the name suggests, is just a massive point.
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