Thoughts?

Looks better on the left. Still has that nerd appeal. On the right, just looks freakish.

Some people have good genetics to get /fit/

>>34983368

Like anon said, he looks perfectly fine on the left.

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>>34983360
that requires work, dumb ass

>>34983360
It won't fix my verbal autism, I'd still be a retard just with muscles

>>34983360
>Why don't you get fit?
Because my face is fucking hideous. Why put effort in becoming male butterfly?

>>34983360

I'd rather snuggle with the first picture, desu

>>34983360
Getting fit won't fix whatever underlying issues you have, unless it's just body image stuff or whatever. If you're depressed, fat, and ugly, all getting fit is going to do is make you depressed and ugly.

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>>34983360
>playboy

sad how he worked so hard and fucked his face up in the process

>>34983360
>Why don't you get fit?
I'm incredibly lazy, and overconsume beer or whiskey on a daily basis
If fitness wasnt such a chore I'd do it, but as of now, I can't be assed to put forth that much effort

>>34983360
How did he make such impressive hand gains?

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>>34983360
Because I'm a man and will never be able to look like pic related.

Why even live?

>>34983360
Left is reasonably muscular, right is dehydrated and cut too far.

Truth be told neither is particularly strong, both look like they'd have problems killing politicians with their bare hands.

>>34983395
actually getting fit may cure your depression, I used to be depressed, then I joined a gym and started working out, eventually I noticed that I wasn't depressed anymore.

It feels good having a goal as active as being fit, you eat based on your bodybuilding diet, you spend two hours a day in the gym, then by the end of the day you pretty much feel like you accomplished something that day.

I'm not a bodybuilder though, I spent 4 straight months there and it felt great, I'll get back there once I finish getting my driver's license.

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Because I don't want to go to the gym and get mocked.

>>34983360

This may seem wrong but you can see it in this thread already. Only Stacys and fags want Chad on the right. Sub-stacys want sub-chad on the left.

>>34983515
why would you want to look like pic related?

>>34983579
I'm sure Stacey would choose left too. Right looks mentally ill.

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>>34983360
Muscles are a fucking meme.

It doesn't matter the slightest.

Pic related was considered the handsomest man in the 80s.

>>34983591
Why wouldn't I? She's perfect. I'm sure it beats being a random muscle chad.

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>>34983662

As much as I like Don, Rob Lowe was the handsomest. Still, Rob further proves your point about muscles being a meme

>>34983662
YES, IT'S THE FACE THAT MATTERS THE MOST.

>>34983667
Well if you like to be used, as all women are used for reproduction, recreational activities. Sure

>>34983360
In the first pic if he had a better haircut, lost the glasses and could smile naturally for the camera he'd look like a chad. There's nothing wrong with his face.

There is no point being as cut as he is for the second photo unless you've got the face for it.

>>34983360
This guy still looks ugly facially. Probably still a virgin.

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>>34983360

He's already in shape on the left and the difference in similar size and lighting isn't that great once you wear a shirt.
It's totally worth it to get reasonnably fit if you're in bad shape (also it makes your face look better, which is a big plus) but going full gymtard, what's even the point except if you really feel the need to have big deltoids.
No thanks.

>>34983515
im on nofap
reeeeeeeeeee

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I am fit, the whole "Just lift bro" is meme advice - you should lift and be in good shape anyways but it's far better to tell someone to get a haircut that suits them, change their wardrobe, wear contacts, get a tan and stop doing autistic things.

Social standing (Inc money/status) > Face > Height > Personality > Body

Being fit but being ugly/autistic/poor/short is just as bad as being all of those things and not being fit because it makes you look like a tryhard (e.g. manlets who compensate by getting ridiculously muscular)

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>>34984741
>in nofap
>on 4chan

Pick one. Also, have more Goddess Eva.

>>34985057
>Height > Personality > Body
This is stupid. You think that girls would pick me (6'4 and fat with visible stretchmarks all over the body) over you?

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>>34983546
>two hours a day in a gym
That sounds like fucking torture

>>34983646

Stacys are usually just as, if not more neurotic and mentally ill

>>34983360

Yeah left is cute man. I bet right looks good irl it just looks freaky in photos.

>>34985321

This is based off my experience with girls and listening to how they talk about guys in their classes/at work or show approached them its always "He was so good looking but he is so short etc" and how guys who aren't very athletic can still get girls by being tall and decent looking.

I have a gf and don't care about running game on girls any more but being /fit/ deffo helps - being 6'4 and ripped would really help you man - get one of those 6'+ giraffe bitches.

>>34983360
I like the one on the right better

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>>34983360
Do you think we would be robots if we were motivated enough to become fit? Hell no. We're lazy fucks, and that's what keeps us being robots.

>>34983360
These bait threads are really just showing how intensely autistic this board has become

>>34985057
load of shit. social standing matters but only for men in like the top 1% of less of social standing. famous actors, politicians, musicians etc. will be able to get laid even if they're ugly, this is true. but for the vast, vast majority of men, ONLY physical appearance matters.

and body is probably more important than face -- because your body fat level affects how your face looks. a guy with a bellow average face but a nice body still stands a chance.

if you are overweight or have a poor body composition however, it will be IMPOSSIBLE for you to get laid with women who are not hideously ugly.

how tall you are really doesn't matter. or better to say, it doesn't make up for any other deficit. i'm 6'2, maybe close to 6'3 but am ugly and in poor shape, so i'm KV and probably will be for life.

Rarely do you see someone who looks worse after getting fit but OP picture achieved that.

I'm scared to go to the gym and don't know if working out at home is even worth it

>>34983360
The progress he achieved in these pictures can be achieved in 2 weeks, he just worked a bit on his abs and arms, and lost like 3 kilos, and the second picture is also more professional and with better light. Not impressed

>>34985571
I'm really thinking of quitting in general. The quality of conversation has fallen so low at this point.

This guy looks better as a dyel than I do after a year of lifting

It is seriously all genetics

>>34985577
6'1" here
Fat fuck who had 3 gfs
Height matters
funny thing is the tumblr girl I dated said she liked men shorter than her

>>34985600
>can be achieved in 2 weeks

come on stop memeing, you are just mean at this point

>>34983360
Am I the only one who prefers right?
Left is a basement dwelling depressed loser, right is cool maths teacher at a successful school, or an enterprising software dev in fortune 500 company. Both look nerdy, but the right one doesn't look pathetic.

>>34985638
>being proud of getting filthy skanks
Yeah whatever fat scum

I'm short. Getting any amount of muscle would just be seen as me being insecure about how I look. I'm otherwise /fit/ and keep myself groomed and that's as much as I can do for my physical attractiveness.

>>34985638
frankly, i just don't believe you. that, or your gf's were very ugly or fat themselves.

which is fine if it's fine with you. if you were able to be happy with the gf's you had, good for you.

>>34985321

You have the tall genes. Short guys don't hate tall genes no matter how /fit/ they are.

Girls want those damn tall genes for their children. It's that simple.

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>>34983360
Obviously because I'm trying to become a wizard. If I got fit the bitches would start flocking and I might get second thoughts.

>>34985705

Not him, but it's really not that uncommon to see un/fit/ tall guys with above average girls.

Manliness has nothing to do with being /fit/. It's about height, and social status.

If you're tall and you have good social standing you can be the biggest fat fuck and girls will still be swarming you.

>>34985638
Height matters if you're going to be fat for sure. Taller guys can have a gut and carry it better. Also you're perceived as being a big strong protector even if you don't lift anything but beer cans.

>>34983515
All you have to do is workout with focus on your legs and ass

>>34983360
I'm on my way.

And btw he looked way more handsome on the left picture.

>>34985779
>Not him, but it's really not that uncommon to see un/fit/ tall guys with above average girls.

i've literally never seen this.

if by unfit you just mean not much muscle, skinny, average, etc. yeah, definitely. but you can NOT be fat.

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OP's picture is a parade example that lifting won't fix your small frame.

That guy looks ridiculous.
He still has the body frame of a kid.

If you don't think so, you are totally deluded.

Go kys you braintards.

>>34985057

>progess

you should try to fix that low IQ first, kiddo.

>>34985814
I'm going to second what that other anon said. I see hot girls with tall chubby dudes all the time. Not obese of course, more dad bod. Think Chris Pratt before he got in shape for Guardians of the Galaxy.

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>>34985826
If he would lose the glasses, fix his fucking hair, and wipe the grease off of his face, he would be ok. His frame is fine. More suited for ottermode than the "shredded" look he's going for, but still

>>34985964
You are talking bullshit.

Put some cloths on him and he still looks like a weakling, totally unimpressive, atleast not ridiculous like without the shirt to show off all his muscles on his tiny frame.

Should I post the pictures of kids who were forced to train and have unnatural big muscles?
That's not aesthetic, not impressive, it looks ridiculous.

He is also a nu-male most probably.

>>34983515
It's much better to put your benis in the bagina of your pic related than to actually be them

>>34983515
height, age and country. And no I'm not going to pimp you out or anything.

>>34983662
Yeah, because his forearms, wrists, hands and arms in general are relatively large even though he's not fat at all in the stomach or legs

If you have small wrists, hands and forearms you're fucked

Even if you get fit you might look like T-Rex

I have a small peepee why should i even try to look and be good anymore ? It's like, i just want to do ugly things to people now

>>34983662
this guy looks pathetic. I'll take a toned dude over this baby belly any day of the week.

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Get rid of the glasses and get a haircut and he'd look fine. Got a bit of a max payne look underneath all that.

Whether women are attracted to that is up to them, but it's a neat look.

>>34986045
Well no shit dude, a skinnyfat guy looks the same as an ottermode guy when they both have shirts on. Nobody is disputing that retard. So what's the difference between a skinnyfat guy and an ottermode guy? If an ottermode guy gets a girl to his bedroom, she will have sex with him instead of laughing and going home.

And the ottermode guy can get literally 2000% as many girls on tinder by taking shirtless pics

>>34985787
I'm listening. Origami.

>>34983360
>brush hair back
>wear tight fitting shirts and jumpers

bingo, nerdy chad, now you can pick up all of those stem girls with relative ease.

>>34983515
>hrt
>save up for facial surgery
>work out your ass
>train voice
>research female mannerism, clothing and speaking patterns

HRT takes years to even be worth it, and it's really what you're time gated by, so I reckon all five of those points will converge together in 2-5 years of steady work to achieve your goal of being a thicc cutie. Unless you're underaged, freakishly tall (for a man) or an extreme poorfag, I don't see why you can't get off your ass and start progressing towards this.

die lonely and depressed or work for that brighter future. It's your choice senpai. Even if you don't think you'll end up looking good you can always move to another country whereas you'll have an easier time passing. Use every card in your hand to your advantage.

>>34986091
5,4', 26 yo, brazil. And yes, I know I'm away pass the time of transitioning, I'm a dude, and I'm going to remain one for the rest of my life, but I don't wanna be bulky.

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>>34983360
We're all gonna make it, beta brethren.

>>34983368
Just needs a haircut and contacts.

>>34986589
Eh. His face looks weird and drawn though. Genetics play a huge part. Look at Zac Efron for example. Lean and ripped as fuck but still retains a nice looking full face shape.

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>>34986434

>perfect height for a delicious thicc waifu
>a little old
>lives in the country of surgerically enchanced plastic sluts

you still have hope you faggot

even if you decide to give up on your transition half way through, HRT will make you look atleast more andro and feel more feminine.

you might as well just kys now if you're planning to live the rest of your life as a miserable brooding existence.

>>34986195
Just look her up on instagram, there are videos of her workiing out, her body doesn't even look that feminine

Don't get me wrong, I would smash that 10/10 ass but it does look like a man with a big ass (I am bi btw)

>>34986787
I would like to be a delicious thicc waifu. Thanks for the tip, Anon-kun. I'll do my best.

>>34986981
>her body doesn't even look that feminine
>it does look like a man with a big ass

B-but... Goddess Eva isn't trans...

>>34985321
Women don't think in terms of x>y>z

For them it's either you have all of it, or you're fucked

And yes, they will go with asshole but entertaining for anything short terms, that doesn't invalidate the point

Men are the ones who will sacrifice one thing for another being exemptional, as far as getting women go it's better to be well rounded and ok at everything rather than great at one and bad at another

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>>34987120
She probably has more testosterone than this entire board combined

I bulged a disc

>>34987155
Point taken. Origami.

How long would it take to get the physique on the left? I'm skinny fat as fuck by the way.

>>34987536
About 2 years if you eat like a monster every day and exercise

>>34987155
if you tell me she lost her dick I'll be sure and block it out and pretend you didn't say anything

>>34983368
>nerd appeal
R9k thinking things like this exist is probably the reason you're all lonely

>>34983431
I was thinking this

Because after i lift i'm sick. Literally. I suddenly lose appetite, feels nauseous and dizzy. After every single workout.

>it's because you're weak ! XDDD

Well the thing is the intensity of the workout doesn't matter. I still feel sick after it.

>>34985596
unless you're are 500 pounds no one is going to notice or give a fuck about you. just go to the gym anon

>>34983662
>tfw large hands
>tfw decent forearms
>tfw tiny fucking wrists, to the point I have to take 4 links off any watch I buy just so it fits

why live

>>34985438
>decent looking
that's the case - girls will pick attractive and short (5'7-5'8) over ugly and tall (+6'2)

I'm working on it. I've lost 60 lbs and I look much, much better than before, but I still could stand to lose another 20-30 lbs

>tfw coworkers compliment me on my weight loss
>tfw lifting heavier and swimming further, surpassing my limits
>tfw I can easily grind on and make out with stacies at bars (don't take them home because I live with my parents lmao)

feels goodman. I'm not even """dieting""" in the strict sense, just making sensible portion choices

>>34987716
it's because you're weak
doesn't matter how many XDDDs you put after it, it's true

>>34983360

I've been fit before. It's pretty nice regardless of having an ugly face. You feel better, work is easier, girls are more willing to fuck an ugly guy with a nice body than an ugly guy with a shit body.

This guy mainly needs to get rid of the hobo hair, and he'd look a lot better.

>>34985057
>wear contacts
Or good glasses. I hate wearing glasses because they press my nose and it's a bitch to always clean them, but my face looks much nicer in them. They're the hipster kind, not the nerd kind.

>>34983360
People assume that being "muscular" is synonymous with "fit"

It's not. Women are attracted to men in prime physical condition and it's the amalgamation of constantly being outside and doing things that tax your body.

When you to the gym every day you just look like you stand in a stationary position and strain the same muscles over and over again.

See here, looks completely unnatural. Guy would have been much better off just learning to swim or something.

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>>34983442
I got fit, didn't fix my shitty life.
Got depressed, teetering on getting fat again. It wouldn't be that hard to give myself permission, I've already canned regular exercise (still play golf twice a week (walking) and street hockey once a week, as adults do.) I'm pretty comfy in my surrender to a future pillow body again, though.
The effort wouldn't be so much to ask if the goal was more concrete, yeah I felt healthier, but I hated every minute of it.
Physical pain isn't the only kind.

>>34983360
It's not the lifting that's the issue, it's the cutting down. God damn it's so much harder than I ever imagined.

>>34983546
wrong.
getting fit and curing your depression cures your depression.
not saying it can't help, but, it can help like ssris can help... they definitely *can* but ultimately it's just a distraction to let you breathe and figure your shit out if you're capable (most people aren't)

>>34983360

You can't lift away inferiority. Good luck making your bones bigger, making your shoulders broader, getting a better face, or a bigger dick.

>>34983360
He hasn't gotten any bigger.
I can get ripped, I just can't gain weight.
A skinny muscley manlet isn't attractive. At all.

>>34990603
Let me guess, you dont do either.

Getting muscular won't give you any more attention from girls if you're still socially retarded.

>>34983360
>>34985600
>>34985645
>hair bouncier
>lighting better, no diminutive drop shadow
>glasses no longer askew
>dehydrated for second photo shoot not first, definition difference largely a matter of light and fluids(notice color bone and rib musculature)
>angle of pants, type of pants accentuating different lower abdominal features
>flexing in second photo and standing up straight in second photo, slight slouch in first
>downtrodden look in before, slightly cheeky smile in second

yeah, there are a lot of reasons for your perception.

>>34985735
I agree, but that's just another case of woman not knowing what they want.
Tall past a certain point isn't a gene worth selecting for anymore, discipline on the other hand.
If I cared about roasties I would like the system (6'4 and skinnyfat that looks better in clothing trap) but it really is just inane.

>>34986589
This kid looks a fair amount like me, and as someone with haunting, black-circled, former fat kid eyes like his who has been wearing glasses for his whole life; trust me, contacts would be a mistake, he has probably tried to.
Also, as someone with a face very similar to his, short hair makes him look like a teenage lesbian.
It's not that these thoughts haven't occurred to him, it's that they aren't real improvements.

>>34987143
Do you want to become a cuck?
This is how you become a cuck who realizes how unexceptional they are later in life.
You have to be irreplaceable in some way or give up on women.
Choose wisely.

>>34988893
>I'm not even """dieting""" in the strict sense, just making sensible portion choices
that only works while you're still massively obese
good work, and such, just don't get discouraged when you hit the "well, I look *pretty damned good* already, if you ask me" wall

Honestly, his face looks weirder in the second pic.

It's all about the face, folks. Most chicks couldn't care less about abs, some even hate it.

>>34983360
I think he was cuter on the left

>>34983473
before he was curling them up but now holds them straight out.

This makes you look more masculine and makes your hands seem larger.

>>34983564
go to a fairly large gym. There people will only talk to you to ask about using the machine you're on or using the weights you are using. At most they will ask to share the machine between sets and even then they don't comment on the weight you set it on. Everyone starts at the bottom and the people who go to the gym know this.

You're all there to improve.

I'm 5'10 and 140 lbs. At first, that didn't seem big, but everyone around me is short as fuck. Especially at work. I honestly feel huge around everyone.

>lifting but letting your arms fall behind so you look like the guy in OP's pic

he looks better, but the mass just isn't there.

>>34983360
>gets fit
>still does not wash hair

>>34986246
1% of trannies end up looking even half decent

the rest are hideous

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i already am more or less

originalo

>>34990902
No I have a good figure and people remark on it. I walk everywhere.

>the lifting meme
>everyone needs to be Chad

Having a little bit of muscle is all you need

>>34983368
If he shaved his hair he'd look normal you blind idiot
he'd still be a manlet tho

>>34986461
god I find this guy incredibly attractive

>>34983360
It won't fix my minuscule penis.

why bother when nobody will ever notice me

>>34983368
the fuck, he looks like henry cavill. A nerdier henry cavill, but still if he clark kent / mr. gray you'd think he'd be making them bitches swoon.

>>34983360
>Get muscle
>I have to shave my body bald now
Fucking morons.