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American robots, you have 10 seconds to tell me why you're not voting for this man.

He literally wants to give you free things.
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Because major Supreme Court cases are coming up on things like affirmative action and voting rights and I want a conservative in the white house to appoint the new justices.

Scalia already died and Ginsburg isn't going to be far behind. We need conversatives to overturn the shit.
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i forgot to register to vote before leaving for college
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Nothing is free

Trump will Make America Great Again
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Americans are literally retarded and believe all the bullshit the corporations shit at them. They still don't have universal healthcare, for example.
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>>26489141
This, vote Trump or get Stumped
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>>26489141

>nothing is free

Air is free, you fucking moron.
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>>26489141
everything was free before humans invented trade
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>>26489097
I do want to vote for him, but realistically he isn't going to succeed in doing everything he promised.
unlike the reality star with "I still have all my hair complex" he is actually gonna try, but he won't bring us everything we hoped for.
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>>26489097
Fuck Bernie. The government already takes a third of my paycheck before I ever see it, and he wants to give even more of it to Tyrone and DeMarcus for sitting on their lazy asses.
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>>26489204
Before humans invented trade, "everything" consisted of coconuts and seashells.

The most sophisticated product which can exist without trade is a sharp stick.
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>>26489204
Yeah, lets go back and get rid of that.

Everything was free, like the sticks and the seashells and all the other things that don't require a means of production.

Fucking baka-ass motherfucker.
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>>26489097
>He literally wants to give you free things.

not free, he just has a good tax plan

>"lower muh taxes"
yeah cause there's no fucking gaping deficit

I'll lose faith in America if a republican is elected
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Robots can't vote that old guy because americans are not robots.
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>>26489309
Seriously fucking this. If people really want things right more fucking taxes will have to be paid. In the best situation the richest fucking people in this stupid country should pay WAY more because they can fucking afford it
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>>26489097
But at the cost of more of my earnings.

Fuck that.

Vote Cruz
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I am from england
socialism killed our country
do not vote in this man, VAT will go to 20% and your income tax will skyrocket
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>wanting your taxes to pay for roasties to get gender studies degrees

you're all cucks, like your faggot cuckoverlord
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>>26489309

>he thinks national debt functions the same way as private debt
>he thinks the national debt in the US even compares to the private debt held by its people

Come back when you've done some research, anon.

Bernie is literally the only semi-decent candidate, but little of his bullshit will happen the way anyone wants it to happen because the legislature will cockblock everything.
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>>26489097
Yeah all of a sudden minimum wage gets raised to 15$ and everything is free all of a sudden. Taxes would go into orbit.
I'm not even political at the end of the day but if I had to choose, I'd go with Trump.
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>>26489097

Because if you get it for free he's taking the money from ME.

So FUCK you.
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>>26489141
I can get not wanting Bernie to win but Trump will literally make shit more expensive if he's going to regulate trade.

Face it, shit's cheaper when it's made by starving chinks.
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>>26489309
>he just has a good tax plan
His tax plan is one of the most stupid things I have ever read.

He thinks that universal healthcare will save 30 trillion dollars when in European countries healthcare is financed thanks to 50% income tax...

He is a rare case of a kike who's dumb.
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>>26489522
>Face it, shit's cheaper when it's made by starving chinks.

Oh yea... my fucking iPhone is REAL cheap.
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Because those things aren't actually free. I'm a White, upper-middle class Christian male and have nothing to gain from this man.
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>>26489204
You mean back in the days of cave-dwelling scavengers?
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>>26489097
Because, as an unskilled NEET, I want to be able to learn a trade or get a decent degree so I can be lonely and wealthy instead of lonely and poor.

Bernie wants to employ socialist policies that will in turn increase my taxes as I try to climb up the employment ladder, keeping me as poor as possible and living in roach infested shitholes.

Furthermore, free college doesn't benefit me since this now makes a flood of people coming into colleges that shouldn't really be there, and get shit like liberal arts because they want to have a better social status in life. This has an effect on several other majors, we're already seeing it in STEM now. People have to go through a Pharmacist's amount of education in order to have any employability, and 1/4th of the salary.

The Democrat establishment has also been the nigger enablers for the past 25 or so years, and with more and more mudshits creeping into western nations, where do you think this going next?
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>>26489250
Unless you make more than 200,000 dollars a year your taxes aren't going to increase.

>>26489378
Again I doubt you make 200 k

>>26489498
Wow there seems to be a misconception or rk9 has a far higher density of millionaires than I originally thought.

>>26489518
>zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz the same thing over and over
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>>26489097
He wants to give free things to women and niggers.
He also wants the nation to apoligize for slavery.
Fuck the leftists. Vote for Trump just to annoy them.
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Corporate crapitalism and socialism/communism in the real world both end up boiling down to taking your peanuts grade paycheck that you can't afford to have taken so they can redistribute it to whichever groups of people or companies or large banks they see fit. When that stops working they will fund a war with your tax dollars and then say be a patriot and send your children off to die on the other side of the world to fund their business interests. Whether it's a Bush or a Clinton, a Hitler or a Trump, a Sanders or a Stalin, you are left struggling to just break even.

The elections are there for the goyim to have the false hope that they can improve their situation. Getting worked up about the political dog and pony show is exactly what they want because it makes you think you have a say in your future.
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>>26489547
Honestly preventative medicine is insanely cheaper than treating a full blown disease of pretty much anything.

The difference is like a $15 pill or having to get a $ 50,000 surgery if that makes sense.

Pre-med here
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>voting against your own interests to screw over other people
Literally the most cuck thing in the universe. It's like banning Halloween because niggers and Jews will also get free candy.
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For one he won't even get the nomination. Literally too big of a cuck to give hilldawg the felon the schlonging she deserves.
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>>26489877
>Honestly preventative medicine is insanely cheaper than treating a full blown disease of pretty much anything.
The assumption that taxing people 90% will make preventive care more prevalent is erroneous. If anything people will be even more reckless since "lol I'm not paying for surgery anyways"

>Pre-med here
lmao'd
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im feeling it

he's the only reasonable option to be honest
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>>26490008
>If anything people will be even more reckless since "lol I'm not paying for surgery anyways"

Congrats on the stupidest thing I have read all day

No one will be getting taxed 90% that's a crazy lie to spout after saying you read the tax plan.
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>>26489097
I think he's just bull-shitting us so he can get the naive college-bound kid votes. I don't think he's ever going to get around to actually giving away free shit.
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>>26490129
Shut up, cuckold.
Vote Trump of get fucked.
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>>26490129
>Congrats on the stupidest thing I have read all day
>PEOPLE ARE THESE RATIONAL GENIUSES
No they're not they're fucking morons. Take off the ideology goggles
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>>26490182
Trump ain't making it out of the primaries.

U r about to get cruzcucked bb :^)
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>>26490226
what is this post even supposed to mean
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>half of America hates Trump
>half of America hates Bernie
>no matter who wins, a huge portion of the country will be extremely pissed
CIVIL WAR WHEN
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>>26490359
I was not completely sure but I think he was trying to imply people are stupid and do stuff to hurt themselves and if they have healthcare they will do stuff to hurt themselves more.


It's kinda like saying you shouldn't have lifeboats on a cruise ship because otherwise the captain won't be careful and will ram into iceburgs just because he can.
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if voting changed anything they'd abolish it
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>>26489173
>watering trees is free
Tell me more
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>>26490470

the only people who win will be the extremists on either side and the smug pepes in the middle who just want to see the world burn
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>>26490470
We don't really do that anymore, but if we did it will give us the chance to make the American Empire from GitS a reality.
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>>26490554
This is just an edgy teen way to avoid civic responsibility. Grow up.
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>>26489740
Why should the successful be punished for being so? What incentive should I have to try, to work, to exceed, if my head is gonna get chopped off if I get ahead?
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His whole plan is pretty much to increase income and purchasing power fast enough that increased revenue will draw down debt before the public debt bubble pops.
It's a little more realistic than most republican plans in that they're trying to draw down public debt while not at all really dealing with how decline in purchasing power caused the increase in private debt and increase in public debt. Since the bailout was a transfer of debt from private to public.

The problem is that if the economy improves only 70% of how much they want it to, public debt bubble bursts and everything fucking implodes. It all has to work perfectly and it's a big ass gamble to take with a country.
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>>26490610
> civic responsibility
> no participation trophy
no thx
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>>26489204
Nothing is ever free. You create value by going out and harnessing/utilizing resources.
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>>26489097
I come from a rich family.

It amuses me whenever I meet the poor who work for us who are intelligent but still have to lick asshole for scraps because I'm the boss's son and because they lack the education to put whatever intellect they may have to use.

I want to keep it this way because it's fun. I probably won't vote at all anyway, I'll let the conservatives who hate niggers do that work among others for me.
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>>26490610
>Grow up.
why?
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>>26489097
Because I'm not going to vote for a kike who takes from those that actually work.
Nothing is free, he's the "I'll give you a free chicken!"
>B-B-BUT HE'S ONLY GOING AFTER THE RICH
>implying the rich don't already have ways of getting out of this
>thinking people are going to be nice enough to pay the extra taxes
>implying it's not going to come from the middle class who are just gonna get fucked even more
Socialism doesn't work with a population of over 300 million people. Socialism relies on small, often homogeneous, population that will be on their best behavior. This is not America, nor will it ever be. America's current social systems are a failure ruined by greed and exploitation. Social security is surely fading out, welfare is nothing but trash and drug addicts taking advantage of the system (as well as government taking cash from this system), and national healthcare is below subpar and hurts competition between insurance companies. Fuck Bernie Sanders.
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>>26490800
>often homogeneous

I know what you're doing. They don't, but I do.

Noice m8.
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If you think Trump or Sanders or any of the establishment shill candidates are going to "Make America Great Again", and save you from your shitty quality of life then you are a goyim falling for the politics meme.
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>>26490672
>>26490672
It's not really a punishment for success. It all benefits you in the end unless you are hyper rich.

Making everyone get healthcare improves the quality of life not just for that person but everyone surrounding them it's proven. You have less disease spread less people laying in the streets. Making school free makes more educated people. It makes sense. It takes people off the streets and gives them jobs that require high levels of skilled labor which is pretty much the only way the job market in America can really expand.

That and really rich corporations prey on people AND the system. Shit like half the corporations in America having their "Head Office" be just a mailbox in one building in Delware so they don't have to pay their state taxes for wherever they are really based. Stupid loopholes like that. Purposely paying workers below the living wage and just so they have no choice to but to get welfare like Wal-Mart which has programs set up to do that so they essentially are getting the government to subsidize the pay of their employees. If you do business in America you should have to pay the price of business in America and not do all this nickel and dime shit to cheat your way out of every dollar.
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I would if he actually cared about robots. But no, all of that delicious wageslave money is going to go to Tyrone and Tani'qua Jones, the leftovers going to stacy getting her "free" gender studies degree. On the bright side I could smoke weed legally and piss off wageslaves but there's too much identity politics and minority worship with his policies. Also his plan to add a 1% tax on all stocks and bonds is ridiculous and infeasable, the report he cites for it on his website even admits that this has never been simulated and that it's just conjecture.
Tl;dr democratic socialism only works in societies not overflowing with shitskins and fat people
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>>26491000
I'm not even close to being a white nationalist, but I said that because it actually is true in that case.
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>>26490800
I mean you just pointed out a bunch of flaws that exist withing the current system. I am confused as to why you don't think changing the system is a solution.

Your socialism doesn't work with a population of over 300 million is pretty stupid. At some arbitrary number it ceases to function? What is being proposed isn't full blown socialism. That's the government running everything from utilities to McDonalds. What's being proposed is democratic socialism. The government will subsidize schools and hospitals like they do the fire department or libraries.

Insurance companies fuck people over on the reg for a few bucks it's not an industry that should be controlled by profit.
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>>26491264
>At some arbitrary number it ceases to function
No, it ceases to function when the masses take and take and take, bleeding the system dry. And with over 300 million people there's alot of those leeches in the US. And there is no changing the system with Sanders, he's basically going to take what we have and add to it, claiming most of is going to come from muh wallstreet/rich people. Proper socialism (democratic or regular) relies on people taking as well as giving, shit starts to go south when there's more people taking than giving. I'm experiencing this first hand as I live in one of the poorest regions in the United States, and the "free" stuff we have right now doesn't work that well. Handing out "free" stuff/subsidies/etc will not fix out issues, it just digs us further into an unnecessary nanny state/excessive government control. Again, Sanders says the money will come from the rich, but in reality it WILL come from the middle class, as it always has. Socialism does not work in the United States, as per the examples I gave, so why decide to push harder for it? Socialism, democratic socialism, whatever buzzword you want to call it will not work for the US.
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>>26491015
And I shouldn't have to get most of my earnings taken away to fund shitty people. There should not be punishment for being rich.
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>>26491592
The burden is already on the middle class. What they pay versus what they make is fucked. People are being dragged down into the lower class by stuff like not being able to get an education or pay hospital bills.

Under the tax plan you won't have to pay more money unless you make over 200k a year. Under that and you are getting tax breaks. That is not middle class tax burden I dunno why you are so convinced it will be a middle class problem.

I don't think free college and healthcare = nanny state. I don't think America became a nanny state when it started offering public elementary school or fire stations or railroads. What it did was dramatically improve the quality of life and standard of living for most people.
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>>26491917
I feel like you didn't read my post.
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>>26492050
Please, this is definitely a step in the direction of nanny state. Have you seen the majority of Sanders' voting platform? It's mostly college kids who want a nanny state, and under Sanders we will head that direction both socially and economically. And this will become a burden on the middle class because Sanders is basing his entire plan off of the rich. You have to trust these rich and expect them to do what is considered the "right" thing, but you know damn well they won't. They will find ways out, they will hide their money, they will move if they have to, just as long as they get to keep their money. Rather than fix the job market and encourage Americans to get out there and try to make it, Sanders wants to coddle them like children. The middle class will continue to suffer worse under Sanders, the rich will stay rich, nothing will change, socialism is a failure for a number of reasons I have already listed.
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>>26492358
What candidate do you want in office out of curiosity who will fix these problems?
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>>26492358
>>26492358
oh ya but wat if it isn't tho?
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>>26492358
>fix the job market
why? if free market capitalism is such a great system, why does it need its hand held to fucking function properly?
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>>26492446
I was going to vote Rand Paul. But he's dropped out, and every other candidate is an authoritarian borderline fascist piece of shit, or Bernie Sanders.
>>26492495
>why does it need its hand held to fucking function properly
Because the US doesn't have a proper free market dongus, I support free market with little government involvement. (Most involvement being say, preventing overseas competitors from coming over here and establishing monopolies)
>>26492491
then I guess I'm fugged
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>>26492495
This. It has been proven over and over that businesses with no regulations operate in a toxic manner and fuck over the rest of the economy.
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>>26492549
Rand Paul is the only republican I would have voted for but Bernie is best girl anyway.
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>>26492604
I don't like Bernie economically, and I also feel he's way too much of a pushover socially. I'm not much of a fan of using buzzwords, but as /pol/ memers would say he's kind of a cuck. But atleast he seems consistent with his views unlike HIllary. Christ, Hillary is evil.
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Because I learned many elections ago my vote does not matter.
I don't register to vote any more.
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>>26489097
He's going to give free things to niggers too
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>>26489097
Of course I'm voting for him. Just because I'm a robot doesn't mean I'm retarded.
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He doesn't want to go to space
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>>26490719
Enjoy paying 90% taxes next year fuckboy.
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>>26492645
It's pretty much my nightmare if Hillary wins. More of the same shit for 8 years. It would be like watching a decade of my life being wasted in real time.
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I've decided to vote for Hillary
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>>26489097
Because Vermin Supreme is promising ponies for everyone.
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>>26492747
Yep, it may be even worse than what we have now though. She's incredibly inconsistent, and a huge lying sack of shit. Can you honestly imagine our foreign policy with her in charge?
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>>26489126
You do realize the score was 6 right 3 left until we just lost 1 right, so the best you can do is get back to the status quo
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Because between property tax, federal tax, sales tax, state tax, social security tax, I've paid 20-30g in taxes and honestly, I don't need to pay any more
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>Guaranteed free college as long as I don't get kicked out the Army
>Finally get out and go back to school
>Bernie is president
>Fucks with the free college shit
>Unable to get the one thing I need because fuck a career in the military
>I pay a shit ton of taxes

WHY IS EVERYONE RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT FUCKING TRASH?
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>>26489097
Eventually you run out of other people's money.
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>>26489522
>Trump gets in office
>regulates trade
>more jobs in America
>Economy Booms
>More people have more disposable income
>Beaners get tossed out
>all is well
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america is full of niggers spics and low life trash it will never be grand but atleast Trump wants to change it
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>>26492888
It's astounding how little people understand about how this would work.

Why would making college free for everyone interfere with something that you are supposed to get for free anyway?

Pls explain logic
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>>26490470
Hillary is going to win
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I don't really care at this point as long as Trump or Sanders wins. At least either will bring change or at least some entertainment. I will be severely depressed if Hillary wins though.
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>>26492868
sorry sir comrade sanders is here for your "fair" share. gibs me dat
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>>26489097
>He literally wants to give you free things
Gee I wonder how that works
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>>26493150
Because what was the point of me wasting 3 years of my life putting up with retards, being treated like a child for harmless mistakes, mistakes of others, endless waiting, and not being a fucking cocksucker just for a promotion?
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>>26491264
>I mean you just pointed out a bunch of flaws that exist withing the current system. I am confused as to why you don't think changing the system is a solution.
He never fucking said don't change it. He just said that making it socialist is fucking retarded. Don't deflect like that you fucking asshole.
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>>26493517
Nationalistic pride, getting paid for it, other benefits you get for life, nothing.

Seriously what thing to whine about.
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impossible for bernie to even be the nominee with the superdelegate system the dems set up.
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>>26493594
This is what you get when you don't read the whole thread.
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Canuck here, ameribros pls vote for Trump. Or at the very least, make sure Shillary doesn't get in.
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>>26493683
I did read the whole thread.
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But I am voting for him. I want to go to a no cost college or hospital. I'm OK with a couple of bankers getting cucked over it.
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>>26489097
Trump is the only choice.
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The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

They're gonna rig it so Shillary is the new dictator anyway.
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>>26489097
There is nothing free in this world anon
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>>26493632
>Nationalistic pride
lmao that shit went away right after basic.

>other benefits you get for life
I'd probably lose that once he ends up president.
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I'd vote Sanders but I just don't think he'll be able to get anything done, I mean look at the way congress have gridlocked Obama on issues like gun control, etc. what chance does Bernie have of dealing with this? However I'll still vote for him because he's the only one actually addressing the real issues that face the country instead of screaming about ISIS or something
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>>26494251
>Real issues
Those damn ATM fees
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>>26494323
>corporate tax evasion
>private interests funding political campaigns
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>>26494618
>Islamic terrorism, possibly on scales never seen before
>outsourcing of labour
>illegal immigration driving wages down and bringing criminality
>a system censoring and persecuting people for opinions
>crushing debt
>the middle east
Those are the real issues
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Threadly reminder that this is a nu-male raid done by redditors that wan't people to vote for their cuck of choice.
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>>26489097
Fuck off. I don't need more of my money going to LaShawnda and her six little bastards.
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>>26490566
>what is rain
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>>26495122
>raid
Obviously.
>that pic
Saved.
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>>26489097
>new things

Like college and healthcare? Good luck finding a job when even more people have near unlimited access to your same major and waiting for months to get into a hospital - deponding on if it'd even make it through congress in the first place.

>>26489126
This too. I can agree to some extent of bending the constitution to serve present day-morals (to an extent,) but we need someone of the same disposition in his place to keep the system balanced, fair, and logical.
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>>26495332
Meant to say free, not new, but it was corrected. Phonelets btfo
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>>26495332
>Good luck finding a job when even more people have near unlimited access to your same major
this line of reasoning is a fucking joke
>"let's deprive people of an education for no reason but to create artificial scarcity for whatever weenie little degree i got!"
further proof that american capitalism despises and inhibits competition
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>>26493706
Then you have a serious reading problem
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Its hard to use free things when you're being attacked by muzzies
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>>26489097
He won't tell me how he plans on giving me those free things. Also Trump's plan has the rich paying more taxes than Bernie's plan according to their websites.
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>>26489097
>literally jewish

baka desu senpai
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>>26489097
I am. If there's any chance of me getting NEETbux within the next decade it's only if Bernie wins.
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>>26491917
>make more pay more

How is that punishment? My sister works in my state's revenue department and insanely rich people are paying similar taxes to far poorer people every year.
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>>26497426
>people arn't entitled to keep the money they make, and instead must give it to others
How disgusting
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>>26491917
so you're earning over 200k a year?
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>>26497498
Everyone pays taxes you retarded piece of shit.
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>>26497498
People have been paying taxes for a long time. It's why shit like highways exist. You are giving your money to people who build highways and fight in the army.

If you like or use any of those things then shut the fuck up.
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no he doesn't

he wants me to work to make minimum wage for jobs that don't even exist. and those that currently have jobs will get fired due to not being worth the extra money
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>>26493359
Also I should mention I only make 60g/year.
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>>26498111
Please explain to me why it's fair that I have to give up half of everything i.make to the government. Throw in the cost of living and it's amazing I have any extra money
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>>26489740
Oh really? What part of everyone did you not understand you stupid fuck.
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>>26489126
If you're against affirmitive action and voting rights it means you're a worthless white that can only compete when other people are being artifcially held down. AA especially only ever comes into play during college admissions and extremely low entry level positions and only in the event of a time at the lowest level.
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>>26494903
Terrorism is basically under control in the US. Most of the TSA is security theater anyway. Were not going to get much safer unless you want to literally live in a big brother state with a secret police or there is serious gun control reform. You can't 100% stop a lone wolf attack the same as you can't stop some random white guy from shooting up a school unless you prevent them from getting the tools they need to carry out that attack.

Dying from terrorism is so incredibly unlikely that it really should nt even be a worry to most people
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>>26498779
Ya wow such a headline very powerful stuff.

With absolutely no actual information.

Every tax bracket DOES take a 2.2 percent hit upwards towards a new specific heathcare tax. BUT you are getting a break of 2.2 in other spending. The composition of what you are paying towards is changing.

This is not even including the money you save no longing spending on delectables, co-pays, and premiums, which according to these numbers would break even with that increased 2.2 % for 95% of Americans.

Here is an exact breakdown and a good article about it.


http://taxfoundation.org/article/details-and-analysis-senator-bernie-sanders-s-tax-plan

http://money.cnn.com/2016/01/19/pf/taxes/bernie-sanders-taxes/


So in other words, how about you suck my nuts, fag.
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>>26498610
The only way you will be paying 50% of what you make is if you make between 2 million and 10 million a year.

I suppose you will have to struggle by with only half of that.
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But I am voting for the Bern.
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>>26489097
because i have a job and have to pay for the rest of you faggots
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>>26489204
not really anon
if you want something that means it has value
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>>26489097
Governments hate him, how he changed the tax system with this one simple trick.
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