Who else here is disgusted by romance-based relationships?
They are all, at some level, based on sexual attraction. The idea of it is so impure to me. I am happy to be alone, and when I masturbate it's only to pictures of women who I fantasize to be my sister, mother, or aunt. Not because incest turns me on so much as the relationship is then pure and familial- it's a much cleaner form of love.
Any other robots in the same boat?
to have a romance based relationship, first there must be genuine attraction and deeper feelings involved.
when guys get rejected, they take it too hard when really they just dust themselves off and try again.
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>there must be genuine attraction and deeper feelings involved.
Genuine attraction and deeper feelings exist, but sexual attraction almost always comes first. Sex in itself is gross in my eyes. I don't look down on people who do it, but it's not for me.
I just wonder if anyone else has the same feelings as me. I feel like an alien sometimes.
Sorry anon, I don't think I have anymore pictures of her legs.
sexual attraction exists but its not just sexual attraction that pulls the need for a greater romance. that's why guys often fall for their female friends because it's actually the deeper friendship element that makes the man want to romance and date her.
the "best friend" friendship.
Romantic love is a fantasy for teenagers and immature adults
Get married and see. It's an agreement between two people. 50% sexual attraction, 50% convinence / companionship
It's all about lust. I could care less about a woman's personality so long as she doesn't cheat. This is what mature adults know, and divorcees don't. They hunt for that youthful romantic love like idiots, settle for people who emotionally manipulate them, when they could be getting hotter, smarter women who have questionable personalities
As the man in the relationship, her personality doesn't matter, you guide your future and let her take the back seat. That's how it is in a functional relationship. Have sex to relieve tension. Make babies. Stop with the romance horse shit after the wedding, nobody is buying it
I guess, but that friendship is still based on give and take. At their root, all those relationships are about "being there for someone" (i.e. when they're feeling bad you try to make them feel better) so that they'll "be there for you". There's nothing wrong with it, it just feels impure to me. It's not natural, familial love, completely unconditional. It feels so dirty and cluttered to me.
True, and I agree that's a big part of it for me, but even in "true love" ideal relationships, that's still attraction based. Even if the "ideal" existed, it still feels off to me.
I don't use porn, I used to but it got to odd to me. Full sex and all that is gross, but the idea of a loving sister, aunt, or mother who relieves me sexually is really arousing and sweet.
i am a bit fuzzy myself, but yes its give and take, and its also being there for someone you can have both in the same friendship.
it's not impure. its not perfect since there could be much more, but i wouldn't call that impure since the love is still there. and the familial love that you speak of cannot give you the give and take aspect of the friendship.
and its a friendship, not a relationship there's no need to feel dirty and cluttered about it.
I understand and I don't think that relationships like that are wrong at all. I think they can be great, excellent even, but they're not for me.
I know it's my issue, I'm the one who's not quite right, out of the norm so to speak.
It's the give and take aspect that I find offputting though. You would never stick around for that person if they didn't offer something, and vice versa. Familial love is unconditional, and that to me is very pure and sweet.
I'm not saying you're wrong, just wondering if any other robots share this strange feeling.
True. But there's something that NOBODY I've met is interested in lol, I tried to have a platonic friendship with a few guys and they all tried to get in my pants eventually. The closest I have is a couple girls who are asexual that hang out with me sometimes
Yeah okay kid. Give it 20 years and remember this conversation.
Or deny your whole life and live in misery.
Just read up on the history of romantic love and realize that 90% of the planet STILL hasn't fallen for the meme
Harden the fuck up if that upsets you too much. Disney isn't real
> You would never stick around for that person if they didn't offer something, and vice versa.
ya that's true. but that's just biology and i've given up trying to fight against it.
i disagree partly though, i would stick around for that person because we are friends.
i would pursue other women because it's just basic biology. i've given up trying to fight against it.
pursuing other women isn't my first choice at all, sex feels good but emotionally it's unfulfilling where as the friendship is much deeper and fulfilling and makes me happy.
You just sound bitter that you never had any romance to be honest.
Yeah, romance doesn't inherently exist. We create it. Romance is a creation of man and woman that, given the proper situation and relatively mutual feelings, give a lot of positive feelings go both parties. It's rare, yes, but that's because most people are like you with no creativity or passion and only work with what you have instead of tapping into the magical source of human creativity.
Well I mean, if a friend starts being distant, and ignores you, basically stops giving/putting in, no matter how hard you try the relationship will fail.
It just feels wrong to me. It's impure and it's so absent of true unconditional love, romantic or platonic are both conditional.
I like her because she looks like a very sweet lady. She used to be fat, she's obviously not used to being attractive.
I don't think so. Romance and love is just an extension of give-take relationships. Sex is obviously disgusting though.
Incest isn't hot to me per se, but in my fantasies it can be twisted to be out of pure love, and I like that.
ya i know. and i've done that before to regain control of my emotions and my life, but i always go back because it's wrong to leave my friend behind like that.
it's a battle of ego within myself, i chose to be with my friend.
Again, nothing wrong with those relationships. Just to me, it's better to be alone.
She's a cutie. I like her a lot.
a bigger pet peeve of mine is that the word Romance implies that the emasculating, self-flagellating, consumer-capitalist method of courting we are familiar with is somehow "Roman" or rather Western or European.
It is in fact Jewish, anti-natal and mercantile. It is this Jewishness that makes it feel so dirty and impure.
Happy Ash Wednesday.
No, not really. I just don't like women my age at all. I've never met one who isn't badly self absorbed, or has any common interests with me. I have a few close male friends, we've been friends for more than a decade though. That's a bond that could never be replicated.
I know exactly what you're saying. I find it hard to believe in "romance" because it's based on attraction. So a man that eventually doesn't "act manly" could lose his "sex appeal".
But family looks beyond the superficial, at least to a much greater degree than normal. Family can be a far more timeless love. It makes me wish I had a sister that I was close to.
Well I can sort of understand. The idea of a strong bond with a woman based purely on common ideals is the perfect relationship to me. I'd cut out the sex part completely because I find it dirty (unlike you though I still like it).
I'm really glad finally someone understands.
All relationships besides familial are to some degree based on attraction or give and take, and it feels impure to me. You must maintain a certain level of outward attractiveness, whether through your looks or actions. I'm not a huge fat guy or anything, I'm not saying this because I'm ugly, it's just that it feels off to me.
A family connection is strong and pure- you love them because they relate to you, they come from the same place, and all your close family members are a part of you- pieces of your mother and father make up who you are, and siblings grow up with the same life as you, they relate to you like no one else, and even aunts and uncles came from the same place as your parents, and hence can usually relate well too.
It's timeless and pure, it's a different sort of love which interests me. I don't really have an incest fetish, because it implies sexual attraction based on familial connection. What I'm really interested in is just that pure love and care.
It's hard to explain to people who don't feel the same.
Yeah, I can find some common ground in that idea. The strong bond based on a certain common relation, common ideals, things like that. I have no problem with sex, it's just not for me, to involve full on sex is a bit offputting for me. However, the idea of doing it to relieve someone you love, or doing sexual favors, does arouse me.
It does feel like a game of sorts. Having to put on different masks to be whatever someone is expecting. That's not natural at all for me. It does feel very "off".
The phrase that I tend to think of is "belonging". In ancient times people would call their lover sister or brother. Because it meant that they would belong to each other in a way that is rarely seen outside of family.
I understand. Probably more than I can put into words. That desire for a pure and lasting love. It's what I end up writing every time I start a story. Living through my characters what I can't find in real life.
Damn m8 I think you might be me, even down to the writing thing. I write a lot of stories, and they all end up about characters having a true, pure loving relationship like that.
Belonging is a really good word. You don't work or worm your way into a relationship like that- it's natural. It's as easy as being born, and you are loved.
I believe my issues stem from the fact I grew up without a mother. It's a missing need that for some reason replaced my need for friendship or romance.
I am glad someone can relate. It's really hard to explain it. It's a need for pure unconditional love, and it's tough because there's no way you could ever enter a relationship like that. It just cannot happen, fundamentally.
But I have learned to enjoy being alone.
Have you published any stories? Or put them out there for others to see?
Exactly. That kind of relationship is like being each other's home.
Sorry to hear that man. My parents were divorced when i was young. Which I think my brain interpreted as romance always ends. Regular "love" is in a constant state of flux. Where family is etched in someone's heart.
The one chance a person might have is to meet a girl who wants the same. Even then, it will have the flaws that romance always does, and likely won't last. So I too have gotten used to being alone.
I sort of have, I've put them out on 4chan a few times, there's a certain image that floats around with all of my greentexts I've written, and a pastebin, but never tried to actually publish it.
Yeah, I have the same thing, parents divorced when I was young because mom was a crazy alcoholic. Thankfully I had a fantastic father.
Yeah, there is a chance, but very very slim. I've decided to not even try look. I enjoy being alone anyways, and writing simulates the relationship enough that I have no problems with loneliness.
Wish you the best family friend.
The only thing this post was missing was the word "sheeple" and demand to WAKE UP TO THE TRUTH. You red pill weirdos have some decent ideas, but can't help but coming off somewhere between a conspiracy theorist and angsty fourteen year old.
One of the reasons I asked is because family stories are more popular these days. There might be an audience that really enjoys it.
For me it was kind of the reverse. My dad had a lot of problems. He was close to going to prison at one point.
It's less painful not to look. Truthfully, I know no other way of being but alone. Writing does ease the loneliness. Sometimes I watch movies with close family relationships too.
Same to you friend. It was nice talking to you.
What happened to no-affection chick thread?
I'd wager that family movies get more popular because with divorce rates and single motherhood as it is that kids get hungrier for a whole home.
My personal vice was deep friendship in fiction.
I'm really glad more people understand. That's exactly what I hate- it feels so fake and synthetic.
I understand that, I often will watch movies with close mother son or sister brother relationships, but writing is really my way of experiencing it.
I get that anon, but it would feel wrong to me. It's not natural, it's not true unconditional motherly love. That's why it wouldn't work for me anyways.
>no romance required
If you like no romance mothering stuff, you might like my stories.
yessir, I posted it there too.
It was originally written with a different name, or just non-descript mommy, but I edited it for that thread.
You should read the thread to get a better understanding of what I mean.
>tfw no BDH auntfu to pet my head and hum a lullaby while I fall asleep