How exactly do you initiate sex? Say there was a girl in my bed,

>>26333135
>How exactly do you initiate sex?
It differs every time.
>How exactly do I initiate sex?
(You) don't. I'm sorry, but that's the way it is. I'll be initiating all the sex with you and you'll just have to follow my lead, otherwise we'll waste time with your awkward fumbling and trying to get my dick into your mouth and ass.

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>>26333203
I'm not a girl, anon.

i used to be a kissless virgin, at first i was terrible and awkward but so was she. after a while you start to understand somebody and it will all be natural. unless you suck and your partner really sucks.

>>26333135
>mmmmmmmwaaaaaa

I'm dyin

>>26333343
Has your mother never given you a smooch? That's really uncommon anon.
What was your childhood like?
>>26333267
Where did you put your hands?

>>26333135
Just act naturally. Literally just be yourself.

If you're nervous because you're insecure or unsure what to do, that's what makes it so awkward and it's big turn off to most women. The ones who like it also like fucking you with a strap-on.

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>>26333135
>tfw women still judge men on how they perform in bed even though they do hardly anything themselves in comparison
Fuck this shit.

>>26333203
FUCK OFF do not rape these men

>>26333243
I don't care, anon, I'm gonna suck that dick anyway.

>>26333563
It's not rape, it's practice. I'm not gay or nothin, but I'm gonna dick that dick.

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>>26333566
My virginity has been protected for over twenty years. They day pigs fly it'll be, when my virginity falls to the hands (or mouth) of a homosexual.

>>26333135

Just start kissing her.

The rest will take care of itself.

If you don't know how to kiss, tough shit.

None of us did either, you're just kinda just going to have to figure it out.

>>26333500
>be man
>have to do all the thrusting
>have to be erect on command
>have to stay erect for the duration
>have to make sure not to cum too soon
>have to make sure to actually cum at all

>be woman
>just lie there and let whatever happen happen
>complain if he cums too soon
>complain if he doesn't cum at all
>complain and judge if he can't stay hard

why fucking bother desu. too much fucking hard work.
no wonder men prefer blowjobs

>>26333135
Most of the time you'll be on top of her holding yourself up or gently laying on her. This is missionary. The girl is going to help somewhat with the positioning, she's not going to just lay there like a ragdoll as you maneuver her arms/legs around. If you're not laying on her, hold yourself up by resting your forearms on the bed, this will probably give you the most support and it won't make you want to die. Doggy is pretty self explanatory. Just remember that the hole is further down than you'd think.

Kissing is basically just tugging lips. You'll gently pull her bottom lip towards you as she does the same to your top lip, and vice versa. Add some occasional tongue and you've got a french kiss. IMO kissing is pretty meh, and I'd rather skip it for the actual sex.

>>26333739

Literally The fox and the grapes 2: Electric boogaloo

>>26333763
Literally fuck off roastie

>>26333668
Past 20 i'm expected to know how to kiss. It'll turn any and all vaginas into the sahara desert.

>>26333792

This is why i'm so fucked. I;ve never even kissed a girl how am I going to have sex?

>>26333792
>>26333853

It's fucking easy you mongs.

Touch your lips to hers.

>>26333853
Find a younger girl. Preferably 18-20. They'll be less harsh. They might even find it cute.

>>26333876
hahahahahahaha
are you 45 years old or just retarded?
I've had 14, 15, 16 year old girls judge my ability to kiss quite harshly

>>26333781

Actually I'm a man who is disgusted with you for being SO MUCH of a pussy that you're bitching sex is too much worse.

I know you're just talkin shit, but still.

That's a terribly unhealthy attitude to have towards sex.

>>26333869
this guy >>26333753 provided some good detailing on how kissing works.
Personally i think it's a retarded thing to do (kissing) and the practice aught to be abandoned. I wish women existed that didn't like kissing. They only like it because people on tv do it.

>>26333792
>>26333853
Start practicing on your pets. They will appreciate the affection and you will gain a valuable skill. It's win-win.

>>26333920

*too much work

bliggin

>>26333906
Because they're 14, 15, 16 year olds you fucking autist. High school girls are cunts. Get one out of school or in college. A girl that you'll want to keep is one that will work with your inexperience.

>>26333654
Yeah, but I ain't gay, you know? This ain't gay shit, it's just one man suckin on another man's dick. That ain't gay cause I ain't gay.

>>26333135
>I can't just spread her legs and go to town
This is exactly what you do when she's already presenting. The key is to assert your dominance over her. Grab her, (gently) push her down, (gently) yet firmly squeeze her to show your strength and keep her under your control. make it clear that YOU are fucking HER, not the other way around. Being slightly rough is the way to go, just be careful not to actually hurt her. Overpower her.

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>>26333739
>Be at party
>Subject comes up
>Some guy points this out
>tfw the girls don't see anything wrong with it at all
>tfw "I don't see the problem, just do a good job and she won't complain"

Just focus on your own pleasure really, that still gets some women off.

>>26334016
I've watched the bit as well.

>>26333920
>tfw I feel that sex would be too much work to be worth it
>tfw this feel doesn't matter since I'll never have sex anyway
>tfw this is an unhealthy view that probably led to me never having sex
>tfw I'm past the point of no return (25 KHV)
>tfw it's a vicious circle spiraling downwards
Fuck it all.

>>26333853
>>26333792
If you don't kiss, you won't have sex anyway, unless she's a prostitute. You don't kiss hookers. They don't like it.

>tfw was gonna ask this same question to /r9k/ the other night

>>26334048
Apparently others haven't. OP needs some gay practice kisses, though, because who the fuck cares what judgement another man makes on your kissing and dick sucking abilities? You just suck that dick for practice with girls, you know?

>>26334022
I appreciate the detail. quite insightful.
>>26334044
I bet only the hookup culture girls are the ones doing the "act like a corpse and complain" routine, it just seems like a hookup culture girl thing to do.
You never hear of homely virgin qts complaining after sex.

>>26333920
>Seeing reality is unhealthy
Damn right nigga.

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>>26333739
>complain mouth is tired, and hand hurts

Unless of course there is $ome motivation for those greedy selfish creatures disguised as innocent, velvety smooth skin beauties with a good heart.

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>>26334130
You gotta love the persistence that goes into shilling.

Really depends on the girl. I guess the best way is to be patient. I think dudes get hornier easier than girls, quicker that is, but girls get much hornier.

First of all I take it you're talking about non escorts so not limited with time. Start giving her a massage. just work your way down really. The thigh area is probably the most sensitive area to massage I suppose.

Hmm I'm shit at being concise, but basically girls need to have things worked up to, for example, in your degenerate hentais you see girls feel good with their tits, this can happen but you'd need to get her pretty worked up before hand. Work up with shit like massage and then get more intense.

I think that a lot of people forget that sex is something that you're supposed to enjoy together.
You should just have a good time and go with the flow rather than worrying about performance.

>>26334436
Virgin detected.
We don't like your kind around here.

>>26333763
literally never had sex or only had sex twice: Electric Boogaloo

those of us who are not still chasing sex like thirsty virgins see the reality of the exchange. No man who has truly had sex would ever choose a fuck over a blowjob

>>26334436
>go with the flow rather than worrying about performance
Just you fucking wait until you're fucking a girl and cum too soon, go soft before you cum, or just be unable to cum.

Just you fucking wait till you hear her utter the words "what's the problem? are you gay or something?" just because you were not in the right mood or something was bothering you that put your performance off, because it doesn't take much to push fucking into catastrophic failure territory, slight niggling worry can eat away at you and before you know it you're so worried about losing your erection that the whole thing crumbles, or maybe you're so focused on keeping it that you can't actually enjoy the moment and you end up hard but unable to cum.

Sex isn't a fucking mutual act, it's a fucking game and if you're not the winner you're the loser.

>>26334436

Shhh. You're going to upset them.

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>spreading her legs and going to town

you can only do this if she's wet. if not, you literally can't get your dick inside and it will be uncomfortable or even hurt if you try. the only time you can just go to town without any foreplay is if you're already super horny and have a tone of pre cum on your dick, and you can use it like lube and slowly go inside her. then she'll get wet as you fuck her

>>26335561
>sex is something that you're supposed to enjoy together.
I said that's how it's supposed to be, not how it is.
I also said people, not men. Women are just like you say, mostly the ones who forget this.

>>26333135
>Say there was a girl naked in my bed, naked. how would I dive in

I'm pretty sure at that point that's an invitation to get her going. Choke her, bite her titties, and finger her.

>>26333853
>>26333792
Then just follow their rhythm. Everyone has their own but they tend to all roughly the same pattern.

it's a light sensual lip on lip, then tongue in a bit and caress eachother's tongue, then back to first step or shove that tongue way down their throat if things are getting heated.

Do anything but this
http://imgur.com/r/funny/k9uTVcc
and you've done well enough

ultimately it doesnt matter what you do with her, and where you hold your hands and other body parts

Its just important how you do it, if you are a cringefest person that is afraid to do something wrong all the time because you overthink and analyze everything then its gg.

You can basically fart during sex and it wont matter as long as you dont give 2 shits
I speak out of experience

>>26336034
>Then just follow their rhythm
Unfortunately, that's what women do when you kiss.
Men are the ones who take the lead and set the pace even when it comes to kissing.

>>26336159
You can take the lead once you get the gist of their rhythm.

As long as you don't let your tongue just rest in their mouth or kiss like a fish it'll be fine.

Dude OP I used to worry about this exact same thing all the goddamn time until I actually got laid and realized how natural it all ends up feeling.

Besides, if you're ever unsure about something, you can just talk to the broad.

>>26336226
Really? I've only kissed a few girls (reees inc), but all of them have been very passive so trying to adjust to their rythm just wasn't an option.

>>26336049
>if you are a cringefest person that is afraid to do something wrong all the time because you overthink and analyze everything then its gg.
Welp, I'll see myself out. It's better to not enter the water if I don't know how to swim.

>>26336286
Hmm, I guess just roll with what feels right then. Let them animal instincts take over.

>>26333135
>Say there was a girl in my bed, naked. how would i dive in? I can't just spread her legs and go to town, she'd just be laying there like a corpse, i'd be expected to do all the work right?
If she's any good at sex, no. In the first place, her being naked in your bed already should've initiated some kind of sex (read: foreplay, oral, etc...) already. From there on it's mostly impro and telling each other what feels good in some way.

>So i'd have to grab her legs and hold em up but what's the preferred area to place my hands when i'm holding her legs apart?
Again, if she's any good at it, she'll do anything but the dead fish. The only time I ever had to hold my gf's legs apart was when fingering her or giving oral (she tends to forcefully close her legs during either).

>If her legs aren't being held by me, where do i put my hands? on her shoulders? that doesn't seem quite right. on the bed? i would sink down since my bed is really fluffy.
If you're on top, one hand should support your weight, the other's free to go wild on her body, depending on what she enjoys.

>Also how does kissing work? what are the mouths doing? I've noticed it's not the same as when your mom kisses your cheek where it's just a long "mmmmmmmwaaaaaa" type of kiss but rather the kissers lips are doing some weird maneuver, what's really going on during a kiss?
That "weird maneuver" is them ramming their tongue into each other's mouth, swirling it around, biting their partner's lips, etc...

>>26334081
Don't give up anon, honestly I felt that way too. If you feel its not worth it then it won't be, it changes when you actually fall in love with another person. I don't have sex with my gf to get myself off, I do what makes her feel best, and that's what makes it worth it.

>>26334283
This. Best quote I've ever heard was, "Women are like diesel trucks, they take a while to warm up, but once they do, they just keep going."

>>26334082
Some do, the ones that do gfe, girl friend experience. They are usually a lot cleaner and more upscale though.

>How exactly do you initiate sex?
>Say there was a girl in my bed, naked. how would i dive in?
If shes naked in your bed sex has already been initiated. This is the exact moment you "dive in" and start eating her out or otherwise touching her erotically. Yes you are sadly expected to do most of the work at this point since you have to get her 'going' if you want to progress any further

>So I'd have to grab her legs and hold em up but what's the preferred area to place my hands when i'm holding her legs apart?
If shes in that kind of position with you on your knees you can rest her legs on your shoulders while you fuck her. Otherwise the direction of gravity will tell you if you need to support yourself since being squashed by your partner isn't sexy at all.

>If her legs aren't being held by me, where do i put my hands? on her shoulders? that doesn't seem quite right. on the bed? i would sink down since my bed is really fluffy.

If shes on top of you or you otherwise have your hands in a position where you can use them, touch her body! massage her breasts, wrap your arms around her and kiss her or pull her chest towards your mouth so you can suck on those nipples. Tease her clit a little as you thrust into her or pop a finger into her ass for a bit of small-scale double penetration (if shes into that), spank her ass a bit too.

I pretty much cannot take my hands of a girls breasts if she is riding me or squeezing/opening her ass for easy thrusting.

>Also how does kissing work? what are the mouths doing?

As the other anon said there is some definite tongue action going on inside. People bite each others lips (gently mind you) and entwine their tongues. When breath is needed they would leave their tounge in the other persons mouth and essentially suck on it as they draw their mouth away before returning to the action.
Typing it out here it sounds gross as fuck, but having actually done it i can safely say its hot as fuck and gets everyone turned on.

>>26333135
If she's not crying you aren't doing it right.

>>26333135
Usually, for me, sex is initiated when I told down my car window and ask "how much", sometimes they look at me laugh and keep strolling, 1out of 4 gets in the car and I lean back and get a quick $10 blow, or a $5 handjob

>>26334436
B
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ORIGINAL BETA

>>26338580
Isn't it more beta to worry that you're not gonna be able to please the girl?

>>26333135
I just kiss them and build from there