>>26177283 VERY VERY bad. It's like heroin addiction. Can't you do stuff properly if haven't had your daily dose of sex? If we weren't such ill ppl, our world would be a better place. JUST STOP THINKING ABOUT SEX and do better stuff.
Gayfag here, inclined to agree, especially since I'm an addict. I've sucked off over 100 dudes, just because I'm bored. If I go out, I'm going out because I want to try to get my dick wet. So many evenings lost just walking around dark rooms of bars or waiting at gloryholes, and every time I drive home telling myself that it wasn't worth it. Entire weekends lost having meaningless casual sex.
>>26177283 It's bad for you as it build dependence. It's bad for women as it feeds their ego and validates their shit. It's bad for society as it makes women degenerate whores unable to breed in their family and nurture their children.
>>26177283 Despite what r9k might meme, humans shouldn't have multiple partners or be polygamous. We are supposed to find the one mate that gives is the strongest offspring and protect it. It's good mentally for all involved and physically. When there is a single parent it lowers the chance of a strong child being produced and raises the chance of a defect. Multiple women getting pregnant by one guy also lowers the chances because the females might not be the best mates. Lastly the emotional connection that is not formed when multiple partners are had weakens the dogma and raised the chances of a ruinous bloodline.
Why do you think some people are successful while others are not? You will observe they came from a full family home most of the time, and the history of both parents are probably not too extreme like having sex with 20+ partners or making porn.
Polygamy is like saying fuck you to nature and ruins the human.
Casual sex is a symptom, not the disease. You take the most intimate act you can do with another person and you break it down and strip away everything that makes it special. You make it as impersonal as shaking hands. And then you wonder why you're 35 years old and you still can't relate to another person on a personal level.
I don't even speak as a bitter virgin. I speak as someone who used to have intimate sex and then looked for casual sex as a band-aid when his girlfriend left him. Casual sex makes you less of a man. It makes you feel used and like nobody gives a shit about you beyond what you can do for them. You don't matter. You're just a dildo for them to use and then toss aside when they get tired of you and feel like finding a different one.
>>26178236 Why not go ultimately wide and include non-humans?
Actually there is an optimum amount of genetic diversity, after which increases are harmful. This limit is exceeded when very distant humans mate, and the children suffer from increased rates of disease.
>>26178335 Are you slow? Do you not realize that all men don't have the same reaction to things? You're as bad as a feminist, talking about how all men are pedophiles and rapists. Now take this information and change your behavior accordingly
>>26178352 >>26178423 Not him but try having casual sex and having a wife you care for. You'll feel detached and eventually you'll just drop out of Responsibility's because you made what used to be special mundane.
The anon pointed out his experience, if you think he isn't for casual sex, are you saying you have had the same amount of partners and still feel emotionally secure in finding a longer lasting partner?
Seriously this whole thread reels of 16 year old try hards, trying to fit in to a college party.
Because I'm telling you right now that I'll disregard whatever the fucking you shit out at this point if you are, knowing you're just baiting as a whore not understanding what the fucking you do to people when you break the exclusiveness you agreed to when you date another person.
Go on and try to defend a cheater, I fucking dare you, I want to see you run mental gymnastics to rationalise one of the fastest ways to destroy trust.
>>26178535 >I'm thick cocked Chad >getting bitches/Chads left and right > Yeah, having sex is is so easy >who gives a fuck about disease >who gives a shit about my emotional destruction >getting pussy validates my existence >getting cock is easy, and my vagina is the only reason I have people to talk to but oh well >I'm so much cooler than a couple that have sex exclusively and make a big fuss over every time they do it together >why can't I have that connection to the random rave pricks I shovel into my phone?
>>26178528 It's hard to get mad when you realize you're arguing with slime. You and your scumbag cheater girlfriend should both off yourselves. She's a whore, you're an asshole, I don't feel bad for you. I hope your faggy avatar makes you feel like a big boy. Oh, also, keep up the strawman, it makes you look real smart.
>>26178592 You're insecure and projecting those insecurities. Least of all speaking like someone who has barely explored their sexuallity and still has it wrapped in ego. Ie the 16 year old you accuse.
recently i've been having a bit of casual sex, not much, but just a bit with two different girls.
it's not good at all.
we fuck and whatnot and that is enjoyable on a physical level, my nature takes over and i won't stop until i fuck this girl. but when it's over and we are lying in bed i just want to die and think about this other girl who i was like properly seeing for a while and how much better that was. casual sex is a fucking hollow hoax.
but you know what, i'm going to keep doing it because i just can't stop. even if it feels shitty. it's all i want to do. fuck my life.
>>26178602 You type like you're a highschooler on Facebook trying to not look offended but doing a hilariously bad job.
Passive aggressiveness just makes you look like a massive pussy, I'm not an asshole for damaging a cheater's ego, that's just putting the foot down and telling them what they did in hurtful words, otherwise we'd have more sluts cheating and not learning anything.
Whatever crowd you subscribe to, you should probably commit mass suicide after whatever enlightening orgy you love to have.
Also, its called a reaction image, we're on an image forum, not tumble, you should go back and tell your trammy friends to fuck off
>>26177283 Yes it is. Normies are too stupid to pull out or use a condom. As a result, more babies will be shat out of their mom's hole, and then more over population. We need to follow Japan where there's more old people than young.
I don't really care what other people do. I don't like the expectation that all people fuck though. I am a robot, but if I had a friend or something, I would want it to have no chance of sex at all. Like it doesn't exist. That is how it was when we were kids.
I remember when people started getting sexual around 12-13
>group of friends includes one guy's sister >age range 12-15, with girl being 14 >girl starts essing dees and taking dee in her vee >everything is about trying to fuck her >guys competed to be one who gets sex that day >worse when alone >she only wanted sex >calls me to come over >get there and no one answers door >text her >come up >she is naked and pretending to dress like i walked in on her. >leave to let her dress >in basement playing vidya >she starts grabbing my weewee through shorts >tries to pull out my dee >move away. i just want to play vidya >makes fun of me for being afraid to have sex with her >afraid your dick is too small? >calls me virgin and homo
She was pissed I didn't fuck her. From then on she would flaunt her fucking in front of me when she could. If it was just me, her, and another guy who wasn't her brother, she would always blow or fuck the guy if I went to get a drink or take a piss or something. She actually too my sweatshirt and laid on it as a guy pounded her. She refused to give it to me. Some crude double entendre with "cum" like she will give it back if I let her ess my dee. Guy didnt help because he wanted to keep fucking her.
It ruined everything. Instead of friends it became sex sex sex. Her, her brother, two friends, and me went to some corn maze for halloween. Brother goes off with his friends. Girls takes two guys and go off for outdoor trheeway. I was just alone. I think this directly led to being a robot.
>>26178800 you degenerate fuck, old people should be exterminated. as well as the disabled. If anything, there should be more babies being born. Although in cohesive family units. preferably suited to that specific nation as well if you catch my drift.
>>26178804 you don't just sound like a robot you sound like you have got proper autism/aspergers.
>>26178847 HAHAHAHAHA sounds like you were the one she was cheating with. Hey, at least you cucked the other guy. THis is why casual sex can be good, imagine if you just fucked her and moved on, that would have been so sweet.
>>26178887 She was sort of arranged marriage for the other guy.
She was really sweet, honestly, but she "belonged" to someone else and wouldn't stop glorifying me.
This is in Canada She was Chinese, and her parents are probably spies, that's why they never let their kids mingle. The other guy is psychopathic, but a massive pussy. They all have a lack of human consciousness and awareness of how others feel, all emotionless robots
>>26178929 >girls with less partners are likely to be less attractive than girls with many partners >ugly girls with no options decide to stay in marriages >hot stacies realize they can do better and leave
Makes sense, but doesn't do anything to prove that the marriages are in any way better.
>>26178871 >you don't just sound like a robot you sound like you have got proper autism/aspergers.
I don't agree with that conclusion. I am a robot. Outside of this girl, only a fat girl has shown any interest. I don't like what sex results in. If someone says they want to do something, then they should do that and not leave me to go off and fuck. I have a tinge of the social anxiety. I can go outside, but I never talk to strangers at all. I need to be very comfortable and sure I won't be disliked before I can talk to someone.
>>26178977 I'm not even trying to have a go at you man, I just think that all sounds like kind of erratic behavior/way of thinking. I'm not trying to shame you for not wanting sex, nothing wrong with that, but just the way you phrase your story and stuff ....
>>26178929 >>26178936 so are you two arguing (with well known fake charts) that people should just marry the first person they get along with, and hold off on basic human functions like sex until they are completely committed to one person for life?
I experience two worlds: a physical world, and a mental world. The physical world is everything that I perceive. The mental world is only my thoughts. Therefore I, as a human, am special because I have complete control over 50% of reality.
>>26179106 Solipsism is a very teenage idea. You don't control other people's minds and you can't possibly suggest their mental realities aren't real. And you can't suggest either than an animal controls less mental reality than you. Mental function maybe, but not mental reality.
No, there is literally nothing in life more important the pursuit of pleasure. Life is meaningless and you might as well have fun while it lasts. This garbage is actually considered sage-like wisdom in 2016.
Why can't I suggest that? I have no evidence to the contrary. It seems a little childish to discount a perfectly good idea just because of its negative cultural perception.
>>26179175 I know the mental world exists (cogito ergo sum). I cannot prove the physical world exists, admittedly, but I will choose to believe it does, which is effectively the same for the purpose of this discussion.
When I think, my mental state changes. The perceived physical world does not change. Therefore, control of 50% of reality.
Yes. It's been scientifically proven that the more sexual partners you have the less likely any of your current or future marriages are going to succeed.
Fine, even if you don't fall for the trap that is officially getting married your chances of a lasting relationship are still fucked and you will either never have children or have them and they'll end up damaged from a shitty childhood
Aside from the risk of STIs, no. But advertising it, going out of your way to dress like a slut, gangbanging dozens of people at a time or even having a Tinder / Grindr profile pretty much puts you at the bottom of the barrel.
I really don't have any puritanical attitudes toward sex, but I doubt I'd touch you with a ten-foot pole if I knew about all your sleazy hookups. That's more of a risk mitigation on my part.
>>26179229 >I cannot prove the physical world exists, admittedly, but I will choose to believe it does, which is effectively the same for the purpose of this discussion. Which is to say that morality has no bearing on the world beyond your perception?
>When I think, my mental state changes. The perceived physical world does not change. Therefore, control of 50% of reality. Can you show that your mental state changing doesn't cause you to think, rather than the other way around?
>>26179333 >Which is to say that morality has no bearing on the world beyond your perception? Yes, but as I've said, I don't think there is a world beyond my perception, so morality is universal.
>Can you show that your mental state changing doesn't cause you to think, rather than the other way around? I think you've got me now. I'm not going to pretend to have some sort of magical answer to the mind-body problem. I'm certainly not an epiphenomenalist, as you've seen. I personally believe that I have free will, but I have no way of knowing. Maybe the belief is what's relevant? I think pre-established harmony also works, as I might have worded things awkwardly. The actual "control" of the mental state is probaby irrelevant, just it's perception (or apparent perception) by a thinking entity.
>>26178692 was in exactly the same situation. After some shitty situations managed to drop the one that was just awesome at everything sexual to be with the one i loved. Turned out she was highly unstable and constantly unsatisfied as a person. Fuck i miss muh casual sex..
>>26179419 >Yes, but as I've said, I don't think there is a world beyond my perception, so morality is universal. Wait a second, what is the physical world in that case? Also, what value do you see in morality if yours is the only perception?
>>26178270 Dude ur doing it wrong.. Lately I've been getting sluts to fall in love with me by playing really sensual music and having heavy foreplay/making sure they cum.... The culmination is now four girls all with 15+ partners think I want to date them... I just like the attention though
>>26179469 Physical world is just the mental state I can't change
>Also, what value do you see in morality if yours is the only perception? I think the value in philosophy is the change it brings to the way you perceive and interact with the world. It should be obvious from some of the stuff I've said that I was an nihilistic edgelord for a long time. If I recognize humans as special, rational entities, and apply the categorical imperative to my interactions with them, I generally end up behaving according to society's moral standards AND I know why I'm doing it: because morallity is objective and unchanging. I don't try to preach sophomoric solipsist nonsense to people, because that's not what it's about. I've found rules that let me be an edgelord while still doing what's right. I guess I'm just an autist, but it makes me really happy to not have to take anything on faith. If I obey the rules, I am morally justified and therefore a good person. If I don't, I am a bad person.
>>26179106 It doesn't work exactly like that. For the most part (by far) you are are influenced by what your senses have picked up in the past coupled with your inbuilt mental systems. Everything you sense has a stake in influencing your mind.
Animals have a less complex memory system than humans (with a few exceptions). This means that they can't build upon as much memories as us. So your argument is as valid for the, as it is you.
The issue I have with casual sex is that it promotes a culture of throwaway pleasure. It enforces the idea that pleasure and happiness are one in the same thing and that sort of mentality infects peoples minds to the point that they look for quick pleasure in other pursuits- >Games are too hard, make them easy >School/Uni is too hard, make it easier It creates a society built on instant gratification without any actual work.
Good relationships demand work and commitment from both parties. Casual Sex simply demands the desire to have sex. Giving into base urges simply because the opportunity presents itself is crass and damaging to your ability to create a connection between sex and stable relationships. People who decide to follow their base urges and do as they please will end up less fulfilled because of it. They won't understand the endless joys of a deed done through grind and pure force of will. They'll only understand a fleeting sense of pleasure in an otherwise blank life.
We're Humans, we should be built from the foundations that separate us from Animals and out ability to govern our actions separate from instinctive desire is one of those foundations.
>>26179605 I'm the only thinking entity because I only experience my own thoughts. What I'm trying to say has no relevance to biology: I've never seen a brain. In the world I perceive (which is the entire world) there is an equal chance that my head is full of brain and that my head is full of water.
>>26179556 So the physical world is still a part of the mental world.
>[I] apply the categorical imperative. . .because morallity is objective and unchanging. I thought the categorical imperative existed to provide an objective, unchanging morality. Here it sounds like you've decided that it is that way and are using that decision to justify the categorical imperative. Maybe I misunderstood?
>>26179702 You have to apply the categorical imperative to any given maxim in order to determine if an action is correct or incorrect: once determined, that action is unquestionably right or wrong. Maybe I misworded that a little bit, my apologies. I think the usual point of Kantian ethics is that any rational entity can obtain the same rules without some higher power bestowing them.
>>26179757 I think you've missed the boat a little bit on what I'm trying to say. Back to edgelord land I guess. I don't care about biology because I fundamentally have no way of knowing whether or not my body is real or whether or not the world I perceive exists. I am not talking about how the lenses in my eyes allow me to perceive light or some nonsense like that. I'm talking about how the mental state composed of things I believe I am perceiving interacts with the rest of the mental state.
>>26179174 Sex is necessary for survival though. And that's not what a basic function is. Using your body properly isn't some mystical challenging shit. Even a retard can have sex. The reason we complicate it is because it can have serious consequences.
>>26177283 Dumping my usual stuff, can't stay in the thread however.
Marriage and family related materials. Links http://www.medicaldaily.com/ignorance-bliss-when-it-comes-marriage-fewer-partners-youve-had-more-likely-your-298752 http://socialpathology.blogspot.com.au/2010/09/sexual-partner-divorce-risk.html http://socialpathology.blogspot.com/2012/08/more-promiscuity-data.html
>>26180233 being a whore just undermines human mating rituals. "this girl just had sex with me without testing if i'm actually good for her, she's either not really smart or she just wanted some pleasure." if the latter, other guys will see she just wants some pleasure out of sexual realtionships and will sleep with almost anyone - they wont want to be her long term partner so they probably won't have kids or won't be able to raise them well which is destructive to society.
Guy asks girls for sex "no". Girl asks guys for sex "yes". Looks to me like we just live in a society where it's easier to be a loser virgin or a stacy whore than a chad stud or a pure waifu. And it seems based on biology and human psychology not some religious patriarchy thing. After all people decide on their own and I believe in democracy.
meh. "slut" is a loaded term that doesn't hold the same meaning as "promiscuous" since it has a moral judgment about the virtue of promiscuousness embedded in it. If you disagree with this premise "slut" is an incoherent concept.
>>26179648 Personally I think the whole "people with good marriages and virgin brides are just ignorant of what they're missing" narrative is just trying to put a good spin on things. Maybe the women who value their chastity just aren't pieces of shit, and that's why they have better marriages.
That may be a factor, but it's undeniable that the more men a woman has fucked, the lesser the likelihood that the next guy will stack up. The "talent pool" is deeper and deeper, so to speak.
That, combined with the fact that women are wired to want the "best" man possible, means that women will marry the guy they find "meh" and be a bitter vindictive cheating cunt to him because he's not as hot as the Chad she got convenience-fucked by for a few weeks in college.
The result is the corrosion of women's LTR-worthiness, which then corrodes gender relations and then the basis of society itself.
Human sexual selection, especially the female, MUST be controlled for sake of social stability.
>>26177283 Yes if you want to have anything meaningful. If you just want your dick to get wet, than it's not so bad BUT keep in mind that this 'feel' will go away eventually and you'll want to settle down. You'll find a nice girl, she is loving and loyal. but when it comes to sex, Stacy was way much better than her and same will apply to her. After some time the weight that sex have on your relationship will be way too heavy to carry and you'll drop her/she'll drop you.
You can be a whore if you want to, and I can dismiss you for being a whore if I want to. Only a madman will date a semen collector and think she's worth anything. She's not. For her, you're just another dick in her among many. There is nothing special about you. To her, you will be just another guy she's fucking. To me, she'll be just another whore I'll be using.
>>26184588 >indulging in too much sex earns you a socially constructed stigmatic name >indulging in too much food/alcohol earns you a socially constructed stigmatic name ? Too much of a good thing, is too much of a good thing.
>>26184687 But alcohol and food are actually deadlier than sex. You can get 100s of blowjobs and worse case is herpes(which causes alzheimers and some other fucked up stuff but that's late in life). Mcdonald's can easily kill you in your 20s and alcohol offs people all the time.
>>26184852 >Mcdonald's can easily kill you in your 20s The point, is that each can potentially inhibit both your life, and the lives of others when you over-indulge in them. Therefor, the comparison stands. Long story short, get fucked. :^)
>>26185278 The point is though, is that society has always condemned over-indulgence. If society does it with food, alcohol, drugs, shopping, etc. then it follows that sex would be held to the same standard.
>>26185431 Alright I'll admit it's degeneracy. But of all the degenerate things to do I have less animosity towards it. I've seen the deadly side of gluttony, I've seen some very sad stories around alcohol. Promiscuity, at least for men, seems a little better because it's more challenging to do. You can buy alcohol and mcdonald's whenever for cheap. To become a chad style man whore you need fitness, charisma, good genetics, and lots of other things to practice sexual degeneracy. It can harm you in the end but it's not something you need to fight hard against since most people aren't in a position to be sexual degenerates
Women have become psychopaths in regards to social relationships, we do not give ourselves fully to another because we are all scared of getting hurt.
This is psychopathic and will perpetuate, as more people cheat, so to do more people accept that giving themselves to someone else will only result in pain.
The superficiality of relationships is folding in on itself. Sex has become the only meaningful interaction because you cannot falsify it, its a real event, objective. And even then, sex is just an actualization of what we've learned through porn.
Sex has effectively become masturbation by proxy. Its nothing but self-gratification and self-pleasure. The other party is just there to make it "authentic", to confirm that yes, we did have sex, I have obtained the object of my desire.
A good man through the eyes of nature is a man that fucks a lot, a good woman through the eyes of nature is a woman that selected only the best. Mens can make up to 3 women pregnant per day. A woman needs 9 months to finish pregnancy, and she needs to stick with the child.
Our behavior as a species is directly related yo our DNA as a species, just like it is for any other animal. Men have to go on the hunt to fuck, while the women just accept or denies. If you accept anyone, that makes you undesirable (but we will still fuck you, but you're a whore to be fucked, not a woman we desire to mate with), and if a guy fucks a lot of girls, that makes him desirable to you and you know it (because that means he is the best, he can mate with any women he wants, including you). We don't have a saying in what attract us, it does or it doesn't, it's in our genetic code.
You can either accept reality, or go running to the arms of your feminist friends, to hear what you want, and please fuck off.
>>26185705 >But of all the degenerate things to do I have less animosity towards it. Well, to be quite honest with you familia, I don't really care whether or not it's degenerate, I just can't stand the people who get so asspained about being condemned for it. I'm the type of person who is a textbook degenerate, but I own it, I'm not afraid to admit it. To follow that up, I'm perfectly fine with "sluts," I only have a problem with people who expect to be treated like "non-sluts" when they clearly are not. If that made any sense.
>>26177283 no. My gf and I started as casual sex and then it evolved into dating. That's just how it works for a lot of people these days, and I think they we will start to see that become more and more common.
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