>boss evaluates me after my first 3 months working >gives me a C- for socializing and how friendly i am with my other co-workers
Fucking gay shit, it's not my fault I'm so bad at socializing, I don't know how to make friends and everyone is an asshole to me and never invites me anywhere or talks to me. Literally fuck this gay earth, I can't believe people like us need to be demonized all the time in every context.
>>26169485 My boss gave me the best rating for socializing. I literally can go weeks without speaking to anyone at work. If the boss says hello to me I always have a short conversation with him though. I guess its good enough for him.
>>26169485 >WAHH IT'S NOT MY FAULT >WAHH I ONLY GOT A C- AND NOT AN A+!!!!!!
Calm down fucking sperg faggot. C is a passing grade. Why do you feel entitled to an A if you're a quiet, introverted person who can't crack jokes or relate to people in any way? What have you fucking done to earn a spectacular grade? You get a PASS, instead of a "WOW YOU'RE GREAT". Can't you fucking handle that? What grade would you give you?
>>26169584 so just because i insult somebody in a taiwanese bedroom posting forum it means im antosocial? get real, fucko, i obviously dont flip out like that in real life.
and yes, believe it or not some introverts are treated like shit in real life. thats like one of the main reasons there are robots
source: my ass
if you really think all introverts that mind their own business are well liked, take a tour around this board. read some of the stories that directly contradict what youre saying and then come back and argue your point again.
>>26169409 shut the fuck up stacy /thread There is no "flaw" in being introverted. In fact, there is no "flaw" in being anything. There isn't even such a thing as mental "illness". Screech all you want, the truth is still the truth.
>>26169884 Introvert, can confirm. Stacies hit on me all the time. I really don't like people taking up my time, asking me their silly questions, expecting me to answer, and watching every single fucking thing I do
>>26170438 maybe because a lot of us are introverts that have been shit on by people all our lives.
being an introvert, not having social skills + not being attractive means youre basically dislked by everybody.
>youre fat? pfft man that doesnt matter, youre fucking rad or whatever >ugly? im not going to judge you for something as silly as looks! im not that vain! >shy? aww how cute you jsut need to come out of your shell >you dont feel comfortable around people and are therefore incapable of socialising in an acceptable or "fun" way (+youre not attractive)? what the fuck is your problem weirdo? go away.
will probably have to leave my current job (or get fired) soon, due to increasing general hostility and disrespect from my coworkers. I can't fit in, no matter what i do.
The problem is, there's always that one upper-management person that just hates your guts if you're uncool or just different from them. No matter how you try, they'll never let you develop a rapport with them.
Ultimately these people talk shit about you and sour your relationship with everyone, to the point where your boss has to eventually give you the "poor team fit" discussion which precedes termination.
There's not much you can do; you simply NEED to be liked on a personal level by each and every individual who matters in any given office. It's also not enough to be generally pleasant and competent, if you're not able to make your coworkers laugh on an almost daily basis, and if it feels like pulling teeth just to get them to open up to you (without disrespect), then they don't like you and you're on the way out.
>>26170738 its human nature. you HAVE to be social, doesnt matter with whom. could be a little niche underground star trek watching club full of "dorky" people with zits all over their faces or with your "crew" at "da" club(lmeo).
not being able to properly socialize with people is like a fish not knowing how to swim. you suck at one of the few things that are fundamental for humans living in a society, so now youre fucked, and no one cares.
>>26169553 this one. it's why you're never allowed to be negative and it's why people ignore the homeless. don't ruin this perfect, great awesome life for everyone else broooooooo!!!! when something bad happens, just fuck off by yourself and deal with it alone!!!!!!!!!!!!!
How hard is it get a decent grade? You come in, say hi to whoever you see, do your work, occasionally team up for the sake of the higher goal and then leave. I admit that in some settings, things are more complicated but I work in an office and can just sit at my desk with my headphones for a few hours without anyone bothering me.
Introverted people are disliked for one good reason I can think of. They're much less likely to engage in typical group discussion. Typical group discussion often being vapid, shallow, and generic. This discussion isn't meant to bring about anything meaningful, but simply to establish group cohesion. Introverts tend to engage in this discussion very little, undermining attempts at cohesion. One reason for their reviled state.
There could be a whole host of other reasons, but I'm too lazy to think of them right now.
>>26169199 because they are seen as a threat. like a "if you're not with us, you're against us" attitude. So the dude who comes in, does the hours, keeps to himself and goes home when the clock strikes 4 o clock will definitely be hates by at least one person.
engaging in contact with one another assures a sense of safety within a group, so the extroverted person who doesn't understand will always have a problem with it because it's a mystery. extroverted people don't like unknowns. it tears them apart so they will do their best to make things work but when it doesn't it just get awkward on both ends
>>26169724 no shit >i don't socialize, why does everyone hate me??? just because you're an introvert does NOT give you an excuse to not socialize. this doesn't mean you have to be an extroverted fuck, but jesus, it's not hard to greet someone at work and ask how they're doing and shoot the shit. i'm an introvert and do it every damn day.
>>26169199 i was feared in the workplace walk with a clipboard and no-one dared step to me no-one wants to get killed by weird guy no-one wants to have awkward conversation with weird guy wierd guy doing his thing, let him be
>>26171679 i'm the "angry" guy at work. what people don't know is that i was actually diagnosed with Tourettes syndrome as a child.
my anger isn't actually anger, it's me having Tourettes outbursts. like people at work are genuinely afraid of me, they think i'm gonna lose it and harm them, i guess? does it scare people when i curse loudly? i think they're scared of someone who expresses anger so readily and freely. i express anger like any other emotion, it comes and passes like nothing happened, i'm not going to beat someone to death because i got angry, like i'm not gonna rape you because i felt horny.
Because extroverts are like dogs, they always need attention and someone to play with and introverts do not give them that to the extend they need, so they automatically assume that they are rude or do not like them.
>>26169884 Depends on your definition of alpha in the workplace. I can be assertive in some aspects at work and I always tell funny jokes and make everyone, not just the women, laugh at work. I get along well with everyone except one cunt or two. People respect me and I always help out whenever I can and they always seem grateful when I do. They're good people there.
>>26169988 I think some of them flirt with me most of the time. I tend to do so unintentionally and intentionally with some of them. I work in a produce department and we take care of flowers so whenever there's a broken flower from the stem I carry that around in my chest pocket and they get all cutesy about it. Usually at the end of the day I give it away to one of them and make them feel good about themselves. Always bring a smile to them.
>>26172231 It's pretty hard for me to find people in real life who are like me, that's why I've only met people that I genuinely like online. I maintain contact with real life friends because I need to go out and start doing shit instead of sitting on my computer all day. Sometimes it's frustrating dealing with how normal they are. Any unique idea/view doesn't get understood. For people like us, the struggle to maintain a normie facade is a fact of life for coworkers, friends, and anyone else we need to interact with. You either deal with it or become a complete shut-in.
>>26169199 Fucking hell I hate the extroverty crap. >HR department (Made up entirely of women of course) always making people have forced fun >the whole floor has to take part, and if you refuse you're not a team player >you're expected to dress up and take part in decorating contests >feels like you're being treated like a child >used to have these special off-site days where groups of people had to share their feelings and talk about their personal lives >at the end of these off-site days they used to make people hold hands in a circle and jump in the air, shouting the brand values >it's not as bad these days but they still heavily push the "feel-good' crap
The place really feels like being back at kindergarten sometimes.
>>26171744 that's a bad one, sorry anon :( for me ihave anxiety and when i idn't answaer i think people whould think i was being an asshole on purpose like a psycho man or something stereotypical quiet guy i talk to no-one and so no-one talked to me (for many years) lol
I'd guess it'd be because when a person is quiet and introverted, they don't go and make some level of connection with their co-workers. Thus, the co-workers don't ever get a chance to get to know you. People generally want to feel comfortable in their work environment. Getting to know who you're working with, or having an idea of what kind of person the co-workers have to deal with, makes them more comfortable. I don't mean to say this in a demeaning way OP. but by being introverted, you're making your co-workers uncomfortable, and it's because they don't know all that much about you. Who would want to show up to work every day having to try and work with someone you feel as though doesn't want to get along?
>>26170892 Right, but where you at work or school? People change immensely once they get out of highschool, even the shitty people. They either straighten up and become better people or they become burnouts desperate for companionship.
Either way, far as I've found, nobody in the adult world gives a shit about how shy you are or what your social status is, they honestly can't even spare the effort of forming a cohesive opinion about you (unless you have a huge impact on their life, which I'm guessing you don't). The only people who care how much of a "creep" or a "loser" you are are the ones who still DO care about social status, and they're too busy thinking about themselves to think about you.
You need to get out of the middle/highschool mindset, I've been reconnecting with people I fucking hated in school who turned out to be cool as fuck as adults. The idea of social status is poisonous and artificial and only applies to schools and prisons. Once again I can't stress this enough: NOBODY GIVES A SHIT ABOUT YOU. USE THIS TO YOUR ADVANTAGE. EVERY TIME YOU STEP INTO SOMEONE'S LIFE IT'S A NEW OPPORTUNITY TO REPRESENT YOURSELF, AND ALL ANYONE IS LOOKING FOR, ALL EVERYONE IN THE WORLD IS LOOKING FOR, IS A FRIEND, MAKING ENEMIES AND SINGLING PEOPLE OUT IS SOMETHING A MINORITY OF REALLY SHITTY PEOPLE DO.
You deserve to be happy and everyone wants you to be happy. Everyone wants someone in good spirits around them, doesn't matter who they are or who you are. That's what value you have to people, just allow yourself to have a good time and don't worry about your status and just have fun in the moment, try to engage in peoples' bullshit instead of worrying about yourself and I 100% garaun-fucking-tee you everyone in any room will like you. Every single person. Except the bitter ones, but they can just fuck right off.
Seriously, go try it. Just go and be a person, for fuck's sake. It took me waaaay to long to learn that.
>>26172687 father is a high ranking police officer and he has to do regular meetings with other high staff members and there comes days where some cunt will ask how everyone is going and expects a detailed evaluation of their life during the week and weekend like some mothers club instead of discussing actual fucking work.
>>26169423 This. Women love you. You're polite and don't give any trouble. You just do your work and get out. In fact you can get away with being lazy a lot of the time with them. Guys on the other hand just either don't respect you, or flat out hate you. I mean, women don't really expect you to talk with them, but guys expect you to banter with them and all that stuff, and be outspoken and alpha, and if you aren't, then you might as well not be a guy in their eyes.
>>26172737 That's not true though, as long as you don't piss your coworkers off, then it shouldn't negatively impact your worth in the eyes of your boss. I'm a web dev and I quit last my job because I got a B on my first review for "socialization". My boss admitted that I was by far the most productive worker and I even saved a project and the company tens of thousands of dollars single handedly, but I got a worse score than others just because I didn't speak unless spoken to, I'd go weeks of work without opening my mouth to say even one word, yet I still outperformed all of my peers at the actual job we are getting payed for. I told him he's giving me a $20k raise or I'm quitting, he didn't so I told him I quit. Luckily I'm in Ohio with a low cost of living and I live with my parents so I have a lot of money saved up, and since there are a lot of open jobs here since no one wants to live here, I got a higher paying job while only working 30 hours a week the next week and my new boss has no problem with me.
>>26172738 >You deserve to be happy and everyone wants you to be happy. >100% garaun-fucking-tee you everyone in any room will like you. Every single person. Except the bitter ones, but they can just fuck right off.
The truth is I don't really like being a NEET. Being broke all the time sucks.
But I can't handle the social aspect at work. I've been fired from a couple of jobs solely because of my lack of socialization. Why can't people just go to work, do their job, and go home? Why do you have to chat up your coworkers for most the day? It doesn't help that I have virtually nothing in common with your average normal so its not like I can engage them over their stupid kids or them whining over their stupid meaningless "problems" they usually caused themselves.
Find me a job where I don't have to talk to anyone and I get paid enough to survive and I will NEET no longer.
>>26173072 This, introvert/extrovert is more of a subconscious thing. You can get on as well as any extrovert, it's just gonna take more out of you, you feel like you need to be alone to "recharge". The advantage is you get to enjoy your time alone, which is just as valuable as your time spent socializing.
Also extroverts can be bad at socializing, usually they take the form of dickbags who get off on annoying people.
>>26169199 I just pretend to be extroverted. In fact, I just fake whatever personality that's needed for the particular situation, in order to get ahead. It's extremely tiring, but it works. I can get along with virtually anyone, but actually deeply hate most people I meet.
BEEing urself around others if you're introverted is absolutely retarded. First of all, it leaves you vulnerable to all sorts of attacks, being exploited, ignored, or fired.
>used to work in an office >boss bitches at me whenever I ask a question >whenever co-workers ask questions she gives long answer and laughs and talks to them because they are normies >One day I get mad at this shit >ask a question >when she starts to tell me she is 'too busy' to do her job and help the people she manages try to be as edgy as possible >'w-w-w-well my BOYFRIEND fucked my PUSSY so I missed my P-R-APArking sPACE this morning NOW I'VE TOLD YOU ABOUT MY FUCKING DAY MAYBE YOU CAN ANSWER MY QUESTION' >she looks at me stunned >everyone staring at me >I get in trouble for this >end up getting fired 3 weeks later >got fired for 'not learning quickly enough'
>>26173389 >>26173457 Genuinely be interested in their shit. You don't need to contribute if you don't have anything to say, people are happy to have a blank face to unload their shit on. You can learn all sorts of weird shit by just turning your brain off and listening, like I don't give a shit about cars but I live around a bunch of gearheads and it's kinda interesting to listen to their chatter.
When people get going and you just let them talk they will get REALLY deep into some shit, down to the most obscure details they can think of, and you learn interesting stuff from those details, and the more you just let people talk the more comfortable they'll be around you. When you feel like you really have something to say on the current topic then say it, otherwise don't worry about not speaking up, just hang back and listen.
Believe me it's a weird mindset to get into, it's something I'm actively trying to get myself into and so far it's going great. It takes a lot of work, step by step, to get in a zone where you're not feeling constant anxiety and getting lost in your own thoughts when you're in a social situation, but I think it can be done. The more you do it, the less stressed you'll be, but you gotta actually do it.
>>26171659 >it's not hard to greet someone at work and ask how they're doing and shoot the shit. i'm an introvert and do it every damn day.
I find this so stupid and pointless, when you already know that person is miserable, hates working, and wish they could do whatever they want, but instead will tell you otherwise, so they are not considered abnormal by societies standards. Everything is built off of lies.
>>26174561 >..when you already know that person is miserable, hates working, and wish they could do whatever they want, but instead will tell you otherwise
Keep hiding under the fact that you call yourself an "introvert" to excuse the fact you are horrible at any social interaction. Not only that but you seem to blame normal social interaction as "society standars" what the fuck...
>not manipulating every normie at work >not putting on a smile to fool everyone >not sucking up to your boss so you'll get easier work >not being nice to everyone so you'll never get into trouble even though you constantly make mistakes >not telling your coworkers about all the shit your boss says about them behind their backs >not getting an A+ for collegiality during your performance interview
Just smiling and being nice to everyone makes my life a lot easier. Might be the fact I don't have to work with women though.
Normies hate anyone who doesn't buy in into their scam and pretends to be happy 24/7. They don't want to see people who aren't normies and happy all the time, because it threatens their perception of the world. To live in this delusion is what they call social skills.
>>26174857 First off this is an opinion. Just because you come up with some psuedo phychological proposal doesn't mean it's true, so stop acting like it is.
Secondly, people like being happy and hearing that people are happy, certain folks don't like hearing how someone is down in the dumps and that their dad is going through a serious bout of chron's disease. More than anything social interaction boils down to getting to know someone better. Once you're friends then people divulge sad shit.
>>26175024 Yeah see that doesn't mean shit to me. You're just trying to give your opinions more value by implying that you are more social than me. That's essentially an ad hom. So I don't give a shit, since you can't prove any of it.
>>26175297 No I will keep bitching about it. I'm not gonna accept it like a bitch. See that's what a bitch would do, bitch gets dealt a bad hand and keeps playing even if it's obvious that he can't win. By this he helps the other players who got better cards while getting nothing out of it compared to them. That is what a bitch does.
>>26175385 Well society likes to deflect responsibility for everything. I mean I get it, you would want me to be a good goy. To think that everything bad in my life is due to my decisions. That things out of my control didn't play any role in this, but that ain't happening, for I know it's bullshit. And so do you, you just keep pretending it isn't as the rest of deluded normies.
>>26174561 You don't have to lie, and the more honest you are the more honest they'll be. I tell people I'm an awkward virgin NEET all the time, that I'm into weird shit and spend most of my time alone in my own filth drinking shitty vodka, and it started out kinda awkward but now we both laugh it off because everyone has some shit they're dealing with.
Went over to a friend's place, hadn't seen him in months, I saw him hanging out and being super social with people, chatting up girls, I was envious of him. He asks me how I'm doing and I tell him the truth, he tells me he's poor, he's got a shit job, he's been single for years, that he's surrounded by complete assholes 24/7, and we just laugh it off and move on. This seems to happen more and more as I force myself to do it and it totally relaxes me for the rest of the night, you have no fucking clue.
You just gotta try it, just take a leap of faith. Open up and shit, it'll be hard but you'll numb yourself to the awkwardness of it. Then the few times you actually DO go out you get to enjoy those times instead of being depressed and terrified of judgement.
>>26175462 People have gone through worst shit and lived to tell the tale. The irony in your comment is that being a bitch in reality is accepting your stupid fate as a "victim of circumstance". You make you're own decisions, your life is what you make of it. Live it or don't
>>26175583 Yeah they got shat on by luck and normie society. And they still worked hard to live in it. If that's not being a bitch then I don't know what is. Kinda like a dog who is getting beaten up regularly but always comes back to his master. That's what it's like to live as an inferior human. If you decide to live, your live will be filled with failure, delusion and humiliation.
>>26169199 because we don't indulge retards in normie-speak making them realise how ridiculous they are without someone as pathetic as them to complain about their dumb problems in a workplace they feel invalidated when we don't care that "adam is gluten free now" or when other trivial shit happens and is such a big deal to them
>"hey anon how come you're not talking?" >idk i guess i don't have anything to say >hfw
it got to me everytime. idk if i was being rude or if they really didn't understand the idea of not aimlessly talking about irrelevant bullshit.they didn't have conversation really, they basically took turns telling stories. nobody gave a fuck. they were just waiting for their turn to tell theirs.
>>26175693 nail on head. we show that we don't give a damn, while everyone else pretends they do. it's mostly women who get butthurt by this. "omg, omg, teacher, Anon isn't participating!!!" same thing. i don't have these problems with people who are at least 30 years old. young people are just retarded in every way, as was i when i was young, but i was highly self aware, i consciously tried to be modest.
>>26174744 >>26175488 Nice try at trying to psychoanalyze me, but you failed terribly. I am very good at socializing, but what I said before still stands, because it is true. It is obvious you do not see like I do about reality, so I am not even going to bother.
Not afraid of: >People >Judgement >et cetera
Also, even though I am easily capable of socializing does not mean that I want to constantly have a full on conversation with you (if I worked with you). I find that annoying as hell, because it makes you seem like a needy bitch (e.g. like a woman or child).
>>26169348 This. It may look like a paradox, but extroverted people are the one with no empathy in this society, and they are the 95% of the total(at least). Thats why everithing is shit in this world.
>>26176003 Being good at socializing has nothing to do with it. I was "good at socializing" when I was in highschool but I still felt like shit around people every day. The goal here is not to be a social butterfly, it's to truly enjoy socializing, like sincerely, and allowing yourself to enjoy it.
I'm not saying you HAVE to enjoy it, but there are a lot of enjoyable things about it, cool shit just happens if you allow it to go there instead of being a detached, bitter faggot who thinks he's better than everyone else. I'm not saying you have to do it, maybe you just really love being alone, but I am trying to sell you on it if I'm being honest.
>>26173830 >boss gets on my case about not talking to anyone ever >have a single short conversation with someone else >boss then gets on my case about wasting time talking >neither of us even had anything to do, it was either that or pretend to work
>>26176103 Not him, but what is there enjoyable about pretending to enjoy things? About constantly feeling like I'm walking on eggshells so I don't say something that hurts someones feelings? About letting people humiliate and laugh at you because lolbantermate and because they have the numbers so they get away with it. There is nothing enjoyable about social situations. Like many people ITT, I can fake it, but it's so frustrating and tiring you wouldn't believe.
>my tourettes outbursts at work are more preferable than me not talking at all at least everyone is entertained by me even though they won't admit it. they don't know i have tourettes, they just think i'm weird.
>>26176137 You don't have to pretend to enjoy anything. Just enjoy what you enjoy and don't be ashamed of it. If you don't share enough interests with someone then just say you know nothing about what they're talking about, and they'll either try to change the subject or just talk to someone else, and you can listen to them and chime in with no pressure if you feel the need.
And if you hurt someone's feelings then big fucking deal, if they don't speak out against you then it's officially their problem. If you have self-respect you look out for yourself and speak up when you feel offended or insulted, you don't just sit there and absorb it like a little bitch. Believe me that you are not the weirdest or most offensive person in anyone's circle, some people might get offended some people won't.
And who are you worrying about humiliating and laughing at you? Normies? They don't give a flying fuck about you, if anything they'll just feel genuinely bad for you and try to change the subject. Hell everyone I've admitted my nogf virgin lifestyle to has been sympathetic towards me, and I live in a trash town full of trash people. Then we forget it and just move on into some inane bullshit.
And believe me, I fucking know that feel. I've known it for my entire life, every one of your posts is exactly what I would have written a few years ago when I was the loneliest fucker on the planet. NEET as fuck, went "out" maybe three times a year so I could sit awkwardly in the corner of a room and worry about how I could morph my personality to fit the situation and make everyone "like" me, so that I wouldn't offend anyone, or start any fights, my only objective was to not have a panic attack, and I'd go home knowing that I filled my quota of "socializing" and wondering when this shit was gonna be over.
I know exactly what that shit feels like anon. That shit is all lies though, humanity is better than you give it credit for. It's honestly just teenagers who are shitty like that.
>>26176336 > Just enjoy what you enjoy and don't be ashamed of it. Well that's kinda not possible in this world, since humans are social animals and I everything is more enjoyable for me when done alone(inb4 someone mentions sex, it should be obvious I'm not getting any of that).
Also if you're not a Chad, no one gives a shit if you feel offended. And if you offend people, you get expelled from the social circle. It's that simple.
Normies and sympathetic? Don't make me laugh, they secretly loathe you and laugh at you.
I hate most people I talk to, but you'd be surprised how much normies talk if you just ask questions, maintain eye contact and let them go off on whatever is bothering them at that moment and really listen. That's all that's needed when you talk to the norms, a listening ear. Then they think you're really quiet but don't hate you so much.
The milleage may vary because many of them just assume that quiet people are horrible and insult them for not talking much when you're within earshot. Fuckin' idiots.
>>26172871 very true When i first start work in a warehouse nightshift, my first day i just 'being myself bro xD' and i could tell all the men were starting to hate me. By day two i changed and adapted to their ways and now i hang out with the two alphas.
>>26176380 >And if you offend people, you get expelled from the social circle. It's that simple.
Are you kidding me? No you fucking don't. I yelled the nigger word out loud, in an insanely racist southern black man voice, in front of a gay hipster black guy and nothing happened to me. I've yelled "GAS THE KIKES RACEWAR NOW" several times amongst groups of complete strangers (with like one or two friends mixed in who get the joke but that's it) and nothing happened to me. I've made some vile fucking sexist/homophobic jokes just for the fuck of it and nothing happened to me. And I didn't apologize for any of it.
And if it sounds like I'm bragging I am, I only started to try this kind of stuff about a year ago and I'm fucking proud of myself god dammit. Nobody tried to shame me, or hurt me, or laugh at my problems, or anything. I'm not saying that not giving a fuck will make people like you, I'm not even saying you don't have to care if people like you, I'm saying you need to try and trust people, and try working under the assumption that most people actually are good.
That's all I've found so far, I've been waiting for someone to point and laugh at me, or shun me from going to a party, or for someone to start sizing me down and call me a pathetic loser, but it hasn't happened yet. It hasn't even come close to happening.
Once again it's a highschool mentality, teenagers are only like that because they feel the need to place themselves on some shitty social hierarchy they made up, and NO ONE involved is fucking happy. They laugh and mock to put you down and move themselves up, so that nobody will laugh at and mock them, they do it out of defense, not pleasure. Even the jocks and babes weren't happy, because they were forcing themselves into relationships with people they barely knew but wanted to fuck for the status.
You ever see a teenage couple get into an argument? Shit's stupid as fuck every time. Teenagers are just miserable and stupid.
but who here HATES work outtings? Especially the annual christmas party?
Fuck me i hate that shit so fucking much. I come there to work, get paid and go home. I don't give a fuck about your shitty family and what you guys get up to.
>worked IT in construction company >everyone was a family tier bogan >boss expecting me to go to the company outings >gotta make up excuse every fucking time cause i can't stand them >finally go to some family picnic thing >literally kids running around everywhere >i'm 22 btw so i don't fit in with all the 40+ year olds >stay for half an hour and bail home
fuck sake that was unbearable. Even at my new job i only showed up at my christmas party for half an hour and then i bailed. I say go to show face and just appear to be "involved" and then say you got commitments and bail after 30mins. Least they see you put the effort in for trying and thats what matters with these people.
>>26176729 Well since I didn't really read your posts much, just skimmed through because I can see a bragging post from a mile away. No I'm not using that bandwith on you.
But what you just admitted is that you're not trying to give advice, you're not even trying to contribute to the discussion. You're just bragging to make us feel worse, just trying to raise your confidence. Which is why robots should NEVER trust normies. Because that's all they're going to do. If you're not a Chad, only thing you're good for is so other people can use you to get confidence. Don't give them the pleasure by trying to fit in society. You're playing right into their hand.
>>26176766 I gotta say I'm pretty fucking flattered right now, that you think yelling some swear words in a crowd is brag-worthy, means I'm doing something right. I've only been bragging to myself for the past few weeks because I don't wanna unload that shit on anyone like they even give half a fuck, but you guys, you'll always give a shit.
And here is the only place I'll indulge it to, because at the end of the day I'm just another normie who wandered in from leddit. You won't remember any of this masturbatory garbage I'm writing, you said yourself you barely even read it. It's just bits in the wind man, gotta get it out of my system. And there is some genuine advice in those posts, it's like a good 70/30 between bragging/advice.
>>26176746 This Normies don't understand we don't share the same interest I don't like drinking I don't fuckihg care about news and politics I don't listen to your boring music I dont want to waste $60 in restaruant for some shit that I can cook for $8 God damn they think you're a monster if you are not as boring as them
To make it worse, they know I don't have gf and have no interest in getting one. God damn these cucks
>>26176893 There is no such thing as advice. When people give advice it worked for them and that doesn't mean it can work for anyone else. It worked for them due to their initial conditions, because they got lucky in some way and so it helped. So your posts are 100% bragging.
>30ish employees at my company >only 5 men, including me
Feels bad man. Working in a place full of women is not as good as you think it'd be. I'm 20 and they're all 30-50, except for this one girl who's 20 something. I dislike socialising with any of them, since all they ever do is make small talk about the weather, or talk about their kids or their husbands or how men are so terrible. There's one woman I can actually have a decent conversation with, but she's a dirty liberal hippy who thinks she's really cultured because she lived in India for 10 years. She actually tried to tell me about muh wagegap once and I had to physically hold back the urge to sperg out and tell her why it's bullshit.
As for the guys at the company, they're actually pretty bro-tier, but you can tell they're basically dead inside due to being stuck in a shitty dead-end office job for years and years. I honestly think they're much more suited for the management roles since they can actually handle responsibility and aren't emotional wrecks like the women here, but sadly only 1 of the 5ish managers is male. And women complain that THEY're the ones outnumbered in the workplace.
tl;dr men are much more interesting people and better workers
>>26176934 Didn't get lucky and all, I worked my ass off to improve my outlook on life. I still can't sustain eye contact for more than a second or two, or be in a room full of total strangers for more than a few minutes without having half a panic attack, but I'm working on it, and I've been working on it.
I didn't wait to go out, the opportunities didn't happen upon me, I put myself out there for once and that's the biggest reason I feel as good as I do right now.
I'm saying it's possible, I'm saying I'm a still in-progress example of that. Whether I'm succeeding or not is starting to bother me less and less because it's becoming so thrilling to stick my neck out and risk rejection. I didn't just run into some dude that changed my life, I fucking pondered on that shit for years and years, with basically no one to support me but my parents, which made me feel even shittier because I felt sheltered and spoiled for what little support I had.
I just couldn't take it anymore and started looking for solutions, that's the only thing you need to do. Start looking for solutions and keep trying new things, chip away at my insecurities one day at a time, pushing myself into terrifying social situations simply to make them less terrifying. Not being scared and on edge in social situations is worth it on its own, and I think that's a good goal for a NEET to shoot for.
>>26177045 >how the fuck does anything get done at all? Seriously i'm curious how any work gets done since all females do is small talk 24/7
Yup pretty much. All they do is bitch about people behind their backs then put on a nice face when they have to work with them. And they always pull bullshit excuses for taking off hours of work like "I need to leave early and see my baby" or "My periods are playing up, I need to go home". They always make huge fuckups as well, which the guys inevitably have to come and sort out. They're just ditzy as fuck and shouldn't be given any sort of responsibility.
Idk man, it's a fairly comfy job and it's only really the people that are shitty. The company probably only has a few years left anyway since it'll either go under or be sold. Hopefully I won't get the sack since I'm a young newbie, and if the new owners have any sense they'll put more men into the higher roles so that we can actually get this place back on track and cut the bullshit.
>Quit last two jobs working in hospitality as a waiter due to anxiety and depression. >Spent the next months after getting on Centrelink getting even worse to the point where I get dizzy and light-headed from worry even being outside by myself. >Job service provider was in the process of setting me up with a landscaping job where I don't have to talk with customers and just focus on some nice, mentally relaxing repetitive gardening and mowing. >Got a phone call today saying I got the job as a kitchen hand that I applied for and that I start tomorrow. >I only applied because I needed to apply for 20 jobs a month as part of my Centrelink requirements. I don't think I'm going to make it. My chest muscles won't stop spasming from anxiety, I'm trembling and I feel nothing but terror. I just wanted to cut grass and move piles of dirt around but I can't say no to another paying job because more money equals more savings which makes me feel a bit more safe in case of bad things happening.
>>26172756 >works in a job where there is constant stress, seeing dead bodies, lots of gore, and some of the worst society has to offer >boss wants to check in to see if his employees are doing ok >this is bad
kill yourself OP, if you actually knew what kind of shit police officers had to see you'd agree that this simple basic counciling is enough to keep them going.
>>26169409 >most innovation comes from people stepping away from the herd >exploration comes from leaving the nest for the unknown lonely boundaries Cavendish and Heaviside were hyperrobots and some of the greatest scientists of all time. Ditto for the hacker club at MIT that started the computer revolution. Gross, autistic weirdos fixated on their computers.
The real reason is that normies can't stand their vapid existence being challenged by an alternative. Every time they see a loner, they must at some level know that it's someone "who sees what they're doing and considers it beneath him."
Normie life is so stressful and unnatural that normies must maintain prestige and demonize the outsider as much as possible--as well as rewrite history.
>>26173132 become a programmer >little interaction with others >meet fellow robots and autists in the field >just do your job as a code monkey, receive your pay and go home it was a job made for robots
>>26170725 I'm getting fucked around by a bitch who was claiming to leave that year to pursue her real dreams only to stay and fight because she heard I was new and making more money than her.
She has seniority which is why she's bitter because no one paid her adequately. So far she made 50% of the office only tolerate me but 75% percent of them think I fuckup often. Fat fucking bitch, go be a journalist already and quit so I can stop wondering if my job is in jeopardy, fuck.
>>26178261 >Cavendish was a shy man who was uncomfortable in society and avoided it when he could. He conversed little, always dressed in an old-fashioned suit, and developed no known deep personal attachments outside his family. Cavendish was taciturn and solitary and regarded by many as eccentric. He only communicated with his female servants by notes.
>>26176137 >but what is there enjoyable about pretending to enjoy things? he's not saying to pretend, he's saying to be genuinely interested in someone for no other reason than to show empathy, when you give you get back that's how the world works
your entire job LITERALLY relies on you not being a social fuck up. you fucking up can actually cause people to have worse medical problems, you chose the one profession where social grading seems justifiable
>>26172871 from my experience this holds true pretty well, though I seem to be with a pretty good mix of people in general. I think there's only one person that I'd say didn't get along with me, but even now they're appearing to act friendlier towards me
just a shame that I don't want to handle the nightmare of dating a qt from work
>>26179912 >your entire job LITERALLY relies on you not being a social fuck up
you have a point but even so, even if I'm one of the most autistic dude in our year, I still manage better than most here since I do study and prepare myself so normies always ask me for advice and shit I'm also get along well with the teachers and collaborate with them outside of regular classes Being a doctor at the end of the day relies on YOU doing your job good, no matter how social you are, no one gives a shit here if you talk and make people laugh, at the end of the day I know better than them and I'm more responsible because normies don't know how to go for the extra mile. And when talking to patients I never contradict them or raise my voice even if they say stupid shit, they like it when I just listen
I start a new job this week and I'm so reluctant because in my last jobs I was so quiet and everyone always thinks I'm weird, I know it's just going to be a repeat again. Just fucking die in my fucking sleep already,
>>26171659 what part of i CANT socialize didnt you get? its not like I dont want to, but theres something about me that people find extremely awkward. im pretty sure theyre just sensing how awkward im feeling but thats besides the point. i cant ask somebody how theyre doing without them looking around obviously feeling awkward just because they're in my presence. fuck you.
>>26180990 >>26180990 >i cant ask somebody how theyre doing without them looking around obviously feeling awkward just because they're in my presence. fuck you.
You sound like a pussy ass beta bitch. Who even cares and ignore it, just live or die. Most people you meet in life are cunt bag pieces of shit who will fuck you over hard when they see fit (always happens no matter what, due to it is inevitable). Do not ever let your guard down.
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