>>26022489 and don't forget to switch to cardio at least a couple months before summer. Don't want to be bloaty from eating like a warhorse. >>26022535 >Only like me for my body Anon...come on...it's about being happy with your own body, and physical attraction opens the door, it's up to you to walk through it and make shit happen.
>>26022627 Not to mention the endorphine boost that excersize provides that literally makes you more confident. It blows my mind that people think it's 100% a meme. It won't make you Chad but it certainly helps. >>26022648 Why do you hate your body so much anon?
>>26022673 >Why do you hate your body so much anon? Why do you fucking think? It's gross, it's misshapen and disproportional, it's covered in pimples and scars and stretch marks, and it's all around a fucking eyesore to look at. My body is a PT Cruiser and lifting would be like adding leather seats to it.
>>26022711 Stuff like depression doesn't happen for no reason. It may take you a while to figure out what it is and conquer it but there is something bothering you no doubt. Unless you have a thyroid problem or something of course. I was depressed for 6 years and only recently discovered what was bothering me. It still pops up sometimes but have been able to shake it off. >>26022759 I knew a guy with a PT Cruiser that put neon lights on it and a 15" subwoofer and got pussy non stop. I wish I was kidding. The only thing stopping you is your attitude.
>>26022935 How is being able to deadlift 3-4 plates going to prevent some muslim with a gun from slaying an entire stadium full of people? Life isn't a Tom Cruise movie, if it was a manlet like me could get the girl. >feel good about your body Why? It doesn't matter what my body looks like if no woman is going to touch it.
>>26023023 JUST LIFT BREH IT'S ALL ABOUT ATTITUDE OR SHOULD I SAY "RAD-ITUDE" HAHA LOL JUST LIFT AND BE CONFIDENT AND HAVE THE ADRENALINE PUMP THRU U AND LET UR DICK ENGORGE WITH TESTOSTERONE UNTIL WOMEN ARE LITERALLY PULLED TO U LIKE A SUPER MAGNET
Fuck, as someone who has both lifted like a little bitch and lifted like a man I can tell you it's not worth it unenhanced. Ignore faggots who say wait until you've lifted 9001 years. If your plates have sealed or you are satisfied with your height despite still growing hop on test immediately. Don't even bother researching, 500mg test enanthate a week, time off is time wasted. Once on read read read. Fuck diet, fuck training, focus on understanding steroids and how to cycle. Just do the big 4 compounds and then dick around the rest of the time, eat 1g protein/lb bw and 500 calorie excess until you're ready to read more on nutrition. You will blast and cruise. Cycling is worse for your health and worst of allalmeans no gains. For your second cycle add tren and get ready to get swole. I hope you have read on how to prevent stretch marks. Tren makes you gain weight like nothing else. Deca and dbol are nice too, but tren is my roidfu. Testosterone is always the base of a cycle. Anything else you can do your own thing.
>>26023023 Jesus Christ dude. What's holding you back is yourself, not your fucking face. The symmetry is on point. Lots of people have acne, GET ON ACCUTANE! GET FUCKING FIT! Do some self improvement if only for a break from this cancerous cesspool.
>>26022553 I'm quite amused by the guy on the top left. Even with all of that lean muscle, all of the countless hours he put into his body, all of the delicious snacks and meals he didn't have for so long, he STILL HAS WOMAN HIPS.
>>26023243 lol im on accutane right now for 3 months. my cystic acne is mostly gone but if anything I look just as bad as before from all the scarring and discoloration. beyond that, I have an unaesthetic face. I ache every day, and god help me the days after I lift. I can't drink like I used to without killing my liver, and I get constant stomach aches. basically FUCK YOU ANON
>>26023325 OK cupid and other dating sites are a reflection of what women do when they have unrestricted options, and turns out what women do is flock to only the best men, even if it means they have to compete HARD with other women. A woman in the "real world" might eventually be forced to settle down with an average guy but she'll still always want that guy the other girl won.
>>26023473 >women are willing to risk rejection by pursuing the best men some are, some aren't. there's girls that punch above their weight class because they're confident or clever or shameless or whatever else. same applies with men. there's scrawny looking dudes that get laid and are confident because they have a huge dick or something and they just go for it. there's handsome dudes that are virgins because they're shy or socially autistic. someone clicking on the best looking person on a dating site doesn't have a reflection in actual dating life. it's not this all or nothing stat vs stat game irl.
>>26023542 Sure but that's entirely an anecdotal account of some guy on the internet, which probably will make someone ITT feel nice but doesn't have the same bearing on reality as proven stats. It's not at all unbelievable women by and large prefer the best looking men.
>>26023426 if you have long clavicles you be fat as fuck and still look good. most bouncers at clubs i've been to are like this. they're really fat but they're really wide and tall so they look imposing as fuck. being born with short clavicles is a death sentence.
>>26023394 >you come on here and tell people that change is so easy and that women will just fawn over you if you change >it doesn't fucking work like that
It actually does. Even a good attitude could fix a lot of people here. They're just stuck in a negative feedback loop, due in no small part to frequent visits to this site (specifically this board). You need us to balance you suicidal fucks out.
Start by finding some hobbies you like outside of your bedroom. Seek improvement daily.
>>26023580 >It's not at all unbelievable women by and large prefer the best looking men. and men by and large prefer the best looking women. so what. you can look at pictures of victoria secret models vs the hottest girls in your high school and say yeah I'd pick the super models, etc. but that doesn't really effect life. no one is wallowing in existential angst that they can't fuck scarlett johannsen. to do so would be pretty self righteous and arrogant. you're "competing" in the dating world where the majority of people are more or less average, where the people that are above average are the ones making an effort to improve their looks and social standing. the thing is to compete you actually have to want to compete. it involves work. these threads are advocating no one compete.
I'm tall, white, green eyes and good jawline and bone structure but there's no point for me to lift because I was cursed with rosacea on my face. No matter how in shape I get I'm fucked with big stupid red blotches appearing all over my cheeks and forehead. Worst condition ever, literally everything I enjoy doing in life triggers it and not even the other aspects I have can counter the ugliness it puts on my face. Probably gonna end up being the death of me because if it keeps getting worse like it's been the last few years I'll just kill myself. Fuck this gay earth fuck god and fuck rosacea.
>>26023679 In reality most men don't get to fuck the hottest women or the victoria's secret models because those women get to choose who does and does not have sex.
The best looking women, average looking women and some ugly women have sex with the best looking men because those men don't reject them. Most men can try all they want to get with the best looking females but will be rejected, because those females can just get the better looking guy anyway.
There's evidence for this, your assertions are just anecdotes.
>>26023660 >finding some hobbies you like outside of your bedroom I can't leave the house. Maybe if I throw some dumbbells around in my room I'll gain the confidence I need to step outside. Or maybe I won't.
>>26023802 You won't know unless you try, these guys are posted all the time because they're ridiculously bad genetic exceptions. Most people look good once they get some muscle, the ones that don't it's mainly an issue of bad fashion.
Won't deny that some people have to put in a shitload more effort than others though because of fat storage genetics.
>>26023746 >In reality most men don't get to fuck the hottest women or the victoria's secret models because those women get to choose who does and does not have sex. they get to choose who they get in a relationship with, but that doesn't mean average construction worker guy who happens to have great genetics gets to fuck her because he says high. it would still involve a lot of work and dedication to get into a person like thats social group and prove that you're a valuable and motivated individual. >The best looking women, average looking women and some ugly women have sex with the best looking men because those men don't reject them. >that's ridiculous. being attractive doesn't mean you're automatically going to be a pussy hound or not crave monogamous relationships. >There's evidence for this, your assertions are just anecdotes. there's evidence of people selecting the best looking people on dating sites. it doesn't reflect the human condition.
>>26023889 The construction worker with great genetics will fuck way more attractive women than the ugly short white collar guy, there are plenty of attractive women in the same social group as the construction worker that would be interested in a handsome masculine man. No one is going to be into the ugly manlet unless he makes a ton of money in which case he's only attracting women due to his money and those women are probably sleeping with a guy with better genetics on the side anyway.
Are those millions of people on dating sites not humans? Don't 1/3rd of relationships begin online?
>>26023954 >The construction worker with great genetics will fuck way more attractive women than the ugly short white collar guy what seems more likely is that he'll get married in his early 20s and have 4 kids, and the white collar guy will fuck escorts and remain single. #yolo >there are plenty of attractive women in the same social group as the construction worker that would be interested in a handsome masculine man or not, most people in the blue collar sector settle down or spend their free time in the same shitty bar where everyone knows eachother. >No one is going to be into the ugly manlet unless he makes a ton of money in which case he's only attracting women due to his money and those women are probably sleeping with a guy with better genetics on the side anyway. if that's how you see the game then why would you care? isn't having more money a better sign of worth than something you were given that wasn't in your control? the white collar guy will be around other white collar females who will share the same interest, maybe he'll get cucked by someone better looking or maybe he won't. he still has to compete with what he has. real life isn't a sociopathic number game where the only thing that determines whether people are compatible is looks. it just isn't. you're making excuses to not try.
>>26023501 I would do ANYTHING, literally anything. Rape, murder, rob, I don't care, just to look normal or average. Poisoning myself is nothing. I don't need to be a fucking chad. I just don't want to look like a fucking leper
>>26024101 You do look normal you fucking retard. Get contacts, a decent haircut, get rid of your autism clothes, and go to the gym until you stop looking like a skelly (<1 year). Problem solved. Honestly, just getting rid of your glasses and the autistic clothes will do the trick.
>>26024260 If it worked for me it should work for everybody else said the tall white Chad with married parents who make a decent amount of money annually and were able to provide him exceptional dental and health care.
>>26024260 You don't know shit about our home lives. Mommy and Daddy don't give a fuck about me. >>26024287 >go to the gym until you stop looking like a skelly (<1 year). This. I went from 140 to 180 in like 3 months when I decided to finally get off my ass and grow up.
>>26024287 I haven't posted my pictures you faggot. I do lift, don't wear glasses and dress fine. I have incredibly shitty skin. >pic related, not me but similar scarring. At least this dude has a fucking chad face. I look beta as hell
>>26024154 >just make a lot of money dude and fuck escorts why not? if girls are sociopaths that care purely about looks and you want to fuck good looking girls then you shouldn't have any moral issues buying them, because fuck em right?
>I thought women were into ugly short guys that worked out? I didn't say that at all senpai. but like I said time and time again it isn't ugly vs model/win vs lose/every time irl. you're the one putting artifical brackets around yourself and other people.
Maybe. In your reading you'll find you should check bloods q 6 weeks. If your lipids aren't fucked then go for it, permacruise 500mg. If this is your plan you might want the longer esters like test undecanoate or similar. Less pinning that way. Test E can be once a week but that's about as far apart as you can reasonably space it.
You should be able to go 12 to 16 weeks on a test only babby blast of 500mg. The pros and doing grams of gear a week and shit loads of ancillaries. They have doctors and shit helping them though. Us little people have to take it easy. On the bright side Stacy probably prefers 180lbs over 300 lbs.
>>26022982 Are you fucking retarded? There are plenty of advantages to having strength. For starters, you will feel physically stronger, and have more energy, and when you age, you wont be as fragile. Unless you work in an office, your job more than likely will have physical aspects, so you will be able to work better. You'll LOOK better. There is plenty to be gained.
>>26024523 Not that guy but why lift the spirits of individuals who don't really have a shot due to factors outside of their control? Sending a short ugly robot to the gym may possibly due wonders for his self confidence and get him out the house on the weekends, but why does that matter when no girl is going home with him regardless?
>>26024589 On top of that the robot would probably put a lot more thought into building his body than the average Chad, invest in a great deal of reading about the subject in his spare time and really make an investment in excellent nutrition. Meanwhile the tall Chad could just hit some curls and chest, I mean a million isolations of each, and pull girls robots could only dream of with ease.
>>26024530 Yeah obviously puberty is when it really counts but I guarantee most of the bitchy betas in this thread are ~20 years old. The male body doesn't really finish growing until your mid to late 20's. There's still time to grow for most of the people here I bet.
>>26024548 how deformed are you? are you sure you don't have some form of body dysmorphia? >>26024568 >haha ur ugly why try keke nice message anon. most people are content not looking like a model or fucking models. >>26024589 because it's possible to do. and it's very rare that someones looks or height will prevent them from getting laid. some people sadly are deformed but most people on 4chan are average looking, as evidence by /soc/ and other boards. they're just too comfortable wallowing in self pity to improve themselves.
>>26024673 Ugh not growing taller you pleb, though it is possible. Some people have random growth spurts in their 20's but it is very uncommon. I mean muscle mass and bone structure wise. My chest and shoulders have broadened a lot in my 20's.
I should be more careful, you don't cycle in the sense of coming off and pct. Maybe phase is a better word, cruise is low dose, probably just test and control estrogen, then blast is where you go hog wild with drugs and shit.
For best cost you homebrew. 500mg/wk should come out to be like $25/mo for the test, syringes and needles,and alcohol wipes. You'll probably need ai with this dose unless you're lucky, and price varies wildly depending on capping/liquid yourself, buy other guys diy, or buy Indian pharma. You should be able to easily keep it under $40/mo. It actually saves money though. Food is expensive, you want to get a better conversion rate, so lb for lb they pay for themselves by off setting expense on protein powder and eating clean. You can't just me a slob but you can eat a little dirtier and still keep ~12% bf without too much trouble.
>>26024708 >it's very rare that someones looks or height will prevent them from getting laid. No it's common >most people on 4chan are average looking, as evidence by /soc/ and other boards. Maybe the people that post their photos do so because they're aware they're average or above average in appearance? Do you think the people ITT who state they're too ugly to pull women are the same that flirt with them in /soc/ threads?
>>26024781 This is exactly what I was saying earlier in this thread. It should be about feeling good and finding comfort in your own body. But these virgins are obsessed with getting laid. I can't really blame them though, they don't realize sex isn't really all that much better than jacking off.
I objectively have what was rated by my dermatoligist as "severe scarring". I work out, dress fine, and I have gotten laid before (albeit never with someone attractive). I am however still miserable, incredibly ugly and hate myself.
>>26024733 >women don't want the "average guy", sorry to say men don't want the average girl either. saying that is like saying someone would rather have 10 bricks of gold then no gold. it's not informing anything. >it's the truthful message that people don't like to say you're not saying anything useful.
>>26024750 >No it's common based on your chart and anecdotes which my anecdotes contradict. if you're the bottom of the barrel genetic mutant you won't get laid but anything in the average range can be improved upon. what's common is people letting their genetic shortcomings hold them back instead of compensating for them with personality or other variables. check out pua if you're into that sort of thing. >Do you think the people ITT who state they're too ugly to pull women are the same that flirt with them in /soc/ threads? maybe. there's tons of people on this site that cry about how ugly they are despite people telling them they look fine and just need to man up.
Weights are so fucking stupid. calisthenics is the way to go. Being a bars bro ext. Going to a gym paying money for a gym then driving all the way to a place when you can just jog to your local track and run laps and do various calisthenic work outs.
>>26024866 How does an anecdote contradict statistics? >I know this black guy that doesn't commit crime therefore black people aren't anymore criminal than white That's just stupid, I'm sure you have plenty of anecdotes of 5 foot 5 asian guys pulling the model tier white chick but something that occurred in your imagination means nothing on an anonymous anime image board. >people telling them they look fine You mean men? >>26023163 Women don't want men that look "just fine"
>>26024936 >run laps and do various calisthenic workouts running laps is not calisthenics, that's cardio. calisthenics you need to use your own body weight, and 99% of /r9k/ can't even pick up a mnt dew cup without popping a vein
>>26024897 >the most useful advice i can give to an ugly person is just accept your lot in life, accept your life will be more empty and less fun, and try not to kill yourself lol. that's neither useful or true.
>>26024950 >anecdotes of 5 foot 5 asian guys pulling the model tier white chick but something that occurred in your imagination means nothing on an anonymous anime image board. personal experiences aren't imagination numbnuts.
>>26025019 Dude like, I have freckles and even though I'm 6'5 250lbs of lean muscle and white people have made fun of me in the past for them. I'm definitely not perfect and I still smash 9/10s on a regular basis inbetween posting motivation on /r9k/ so you little guys can go out and get some too
>>26025019 quantify fun. the most pleasure you can experience on this earth is injecting heroin into your veins, but it isn't fullfilling. walking on a runway and getting your photo taken probably boosts your self esteem and earns you easy cash but it seems pretty empty to me. making the most out of life is tailored to the individual and only you can define it. if wallowing in pity is what your soul is telling you to do then by all means, I've been there. or you could do simple things that will improve your mood like getting up at a certain time and doing yoga. reading things other than shitposting, it's up to you.
>>26025054 yeah they do. my personal experiences are that I live in a city where most people look average and I'll see dozens of people a day that look like an odd pairing, one persons fat, one girl has a big nose etc. and rarely do I see models. everyone will tell you the same thing and you'd see it for yourself if you went outside.
>short >black I could totally deal with one but not the other, the short black guy is always comic relief regardless of how muscular he is. Look at Kali Muscle or Kevin Hart, Hart has been putting on weight and no one finds him attractive whatsoever. Kali Muscle is ridiculously big but is just comic relief in commercials, no one takes him seriously like Arnold.
I wish I was a tall cool black guy like Idris Elba or Will Smith or something, but instead I'm doomed to an eternity as a short man and will never be able to afford that limb lengthening surgery within my prime.
>>26022553 All of the guys in this picture would be able to get girls pretty easily. I mean, i've seen cute girl holding hands with such Mordor orcs, there is no excuse when it comes to physical appearance. barring extreme cases, that is. Most people in this board are too socially dead to take advantage of this anyway. So why bother.
>>26025120 >Meeting lots of people and being social and having sex with hot women and having people like you just because of your face. how do you know that's fulfilling? you're just speculating. you think people don't have demons or have to deal with shitty bosses or people trying to ruin their lives just because they look a certain way. that's really presumptuous. it might sound fun to you because that's not something you experience but there's downsides to everything. grass is greener.
>>26025157 not him but my personal experience on a college university campus (one of the largest in the US) are the best looking tallest most athletic guys getting most of the girls, even subpar looking women
I go outside on a daily basis, where are all the ugly guys with the women? maybe im not looking hard enough but the short or awkward looking guys are usually sitting with other guys
>>26025220 hey idiot you're simplifying what I said. just because someones beautiful doesn't mean they don't have to deal with the trials of interacting with people on a daily basis. you don't know where someones mind is at or where they came from. you can get shit for being beautiful just like you can get shit for being short or ugly. someone that's attractive could be dumb as rocks and easy manipulated, or have sexual, mental or emotional hangups.
>if i looked like the guy in the OP my life would be fantastic and amazing nice assumption kiddo. it probably wouldn't. maybe start with lifting weights and getting your diet and life in check and you wouldn't be so concerned with others.
>>26025288 > they don't have to deal with the trials of interacting with people on a daily basis people automatically like them, so it's easy >you can get shit for being beautiful who cares, that's like getting shit for having too much money. very easy to brush off because at the end of the day you're still the winner. >have sexual, mental or emotional hangups i have these and i'm ugly, poor chad >it probably wouldn't. it 100% would be
>>26025288 >just like you can get shit for being short or ugly Is this real life? How is the beautiful person who gets shit's life still not significantly better than the person who is ugly or short who get's shit?
A beautiful person who gets shitted on still has their beauty to fall back on, and attractive people get treated way better than people who are not attractive, whereas the ugly or short person who gets shitted on has nothing.
>someone that's attractive could be dumb as rocks and easy manipulated, or have sexual, mental or emotional hangups. Those could all happen to someone who is ugly or short as well and would be significantly worse for them due to people being less empathetic towards the ugly.
>it probably wouldn't. maybe start with lifting weights and getting your diet and life in check and you wouldn't be so concerned with others. I've been lifting for upwards of a year with a clean diet and I would sell my soul to have the appearance of the guy in the OP including his height.
I would have more friends if I looked like that, be significantly better at sports due to my build, I would make more money and do better in job interviews, hell there'd be so many benefits beyond the amount of sex someone who looks like that would have it would make absolutely no sense not to trade places with him.
I can lift and diet all I want but it is not possible for me to look like that even with steroids or expensive surgery.
/r9k/ is mostly skelly but it's not that bad. I briefly did the calisthenics thing but sort of slacked after meeting my goal of 10 chins and 5 pistol squats each leg. I think weights would be more satisfying and easier to stick to. I mean what's left after what I did? Handstand pushups, one arm chins, and planche pushups. Fuck that, it would take forever to reach that. At least with iron you can celebrate at least monthly PRs for years.
>>26025319 >people automatically like them, so it's easy guys automatically like another guy just because he's attractive? I guess you're unfamiliar with the concepts of jealousy or spite. girls can get bitter towards attractive guys too if they feel they don't measure up. ultimately it's on the individual whether or not he's receptive to receiving attention based purely on his looks, some people find that genuinely annoying and get disgusted by the vanity of humanity. I've experienced something similar when I lost weight and got in shape. it actually isn't a life changing feeling when strangers check you out. sometimes you want to just go places and not interact and not have people make assumptions of you. I'm pretty tall but wish I was shorter and diminutive because my personality is somewhat shy. >very easy to brush off because at the end of the day you're still the winner. there's no defined winner. if you accrue wealth by your own merit yeah that's very fullfilling and easy to brush off haters because you earned it but if you're born into wealth you're going to be a very stunted boring person. >i have these and i'm ugly, poor chad hurr poor strawman who I know inside and out because he's a figment of my imagination. get ride of him anon.
>>26025371 Shit imagine just the small things in life that would improve if you looked like him, people would be so much nicer to you. You know how robots and people on 4chan in general assign so much significance to the smallest of social interactions with people of the opposite sex? Now imagine if those small things, like say a convenience store clerk flirting with you, a girl smiling at you in passing or a classmate giving you their number, happened multiple times in a given day.
Your confidence would be through the roof if you looked like that guy, you would feel as if you had legitimately no limits in what you were capable of doing and would make friends with people with similar interest to yourself with ease.
>>26025457 >I'm pretty tall but wish I was shorter and diminutive because my personality is somewhat shy. So people interact with you more solely based on your height? I'm a short extrovert and I would love to have a quality like that myself. Hell I'd love to be able to make girls feel jealous or spiteful simply by existing, I'd love to make them feel something beyond disgust or making them laugh.
>>26025418 Go to the gym. Everyone there is concerned with themselves. Literally noone will make fun of you for being skelly. Everyone starts somewhere. I've seen quite a few skelly looking dudes starting up, myself included, and whenever I see one I think how great it is they want to get in shape. If you even take your headphones off and allow yourself to be talked to (I only say this because I work out with headphones and don't talk to people) all you'll get is small talk. And don't be afraid to ask someone how to do an excersize or something, people at the gym are helpful.
>>26025371 >Is this real life? How is the beautiful person who gets shit's life still not significantly better than the person who is ugly or short who get's shit? because you can't fucking quantify lives, anon. jesus christ. you people behave like you've never had a close friend in your life. that is all that life is about at the end of the day. having friends and family that you love and trust.
>Those could all happen to someone who is ugly or short as well and would be significantly worse for them due to people being less empathetic towards the ugly.
I'm speaking of mental issues related specifically to someone who's only valuable attribute is being attractive. in some sense it can be a hindrance since you're given a false impression about how the world works since you're handed certain things because of physical beauty. it could be hard for people like that to develop true empathy towards the broader spectrum of human experience.
>I've been lifting for upwards of a year with a clean diet and I would sell my soul to have the appearance of the guy in the OP including his height. who even is that guy? is he a model? I don't recognize him off the bat. I lift and eat well too, it's been a struggle to maintain this weight because I come from a family of land manatees. I make an effort not to compare myself to others because I genuinely believe it's pointless and self harming. I like looking at handsome guys though, no homo. it's humbling being able to compliment other guys without getting jelly.
>>26025418 Push-ups are a godsend for anybody not wanting to get super serious about getting in shape.
Just do enough that your pecs feel sore the next day, which at first won't be a lot, and make sure to wait until the soreness is gone to go at it again. It literally takes less than a minute to hammer out a round of pushups until your arms/chest want a rest. And it only takes about a month to start seeing results, provided you are not obese.
You don't even have to sweat your balls off and go out, just pause your game for 45 seconds and do some pushups. Pecs are probably the most prominent show of masculinity besides the jaw and penis. The benefits of even mediocre pecs and a good-fitting shirt are astounding. It's like the equivalent to good curves on a female.
>>26025242 >>26025253 Again, you can get a decent-ly cute girl while looking like an ogre. They "talk the talk and walk the walk", tell a woman a few sweet nothings, know how to turn around a rejection without being considered creepy by them. Again, workable. It is not being ugly what made you a robot. That only made it worse. But you already gave up. there is nothing i can say to you in this moment that can save you, and telling you where you went wrong might only make you suffer even more without doing anything good for you.
If you allow me a bit of sophistry, you are the devil in Dante's Divine Comedy, a monster kept away from what he craves so much by his own pride and stupidity. Heck, even if he made it out of that frozen lake, you think God would accept him again? He'd have to work quite hard to earn his redemption. Back to you, even if i told you how to stop "freezing the lake" that has got you trapped in it, chances are you won't want to go throught the extra rehabilitation steps that will help you integrate you as social beings. That's way too hard or not easy enough for you. So you will go back to that "lake" again where things are shitty but, boy, are they easy.
>>26025613 >having friends and family that you love and trust. And yet and still a beautiful person can still have all of these things and an ugly person can have none of them. In fact a beautiful person would have a significantly easier time making friends than an ugly person, we do not treat ugly and beautiful people the same way.
>you're handed certain things because of physical beauty How awful, almost as bad as being handed nothing as a result of being physically ugly and having no valuable attributes in addition to being a pariah due in part to the way you look.
>I make an effort not to compare myself to others because I genuinely believe it's pointless and self harming. That's nice, but any man's life would improve if he was more handsome and an attractive height.
>>26025710 Nice projection dumbass, I have a girlfriend I'm asking how can an ugly face be considered "workable" >j-just be confident, don't be creepy That literally does nothing to improve the way your face looks
>>26025725 >In fact a beautiful person would have a significantly easier time making friends than an ugly person, we do not treat ugly and beautiful people the same way. not true. I've met really boring attractive people and really funny interesting fat/ugly/zit faced people. I'd consider myself average I suppose but I'd rather have friends that I can relate to based on my interests.
>How awful, almost as bad as being handed nothing as a result of being physically ugly and having no valuable attributes in addition to being a pariah due in part to the way you look.
that isn't the only thing numbnuts. arrogance, pride, over inflated ego, vanity, all those things are harder for beautiful people to keep under control, and yes those things stunt you as a human being. you most definitely were handed things you take for granted, like a roof over your head, possibly a loving family, an education, etc. you can still develop skills and hobbies that will make you an asset and will open up more doors for you to socialize. but NOPE life's over for me because of strawman perfect person with no flaws. >That's nice, but any man's life would improve if he was more handsome and an attractive height. not everyone likes being tall anon, I am and I don't like it. it's harder to fill out my frame with lifting and I feel like a big goon.
>>26025854 Personality doesn't matter whatsoever, it can't even compensate for a shitty face. An introverted tall handsome guy is mysterious, shy, cute, women will go out of their way to speak to and involve this individual. An ugly guy that doesn't speak is creepy. The extroverted hideous man is annoying and obnoxious, his jokes simply aren't funny he should shut up. Ask Gilbert Gottfried about this one.
The extroverted handsome man is absolutely hilarious, his charisma seemingly draws women to him.
>>26025911 >not true. I've met really boring attractive people and really funny interesting fat/ugly/zit faced people. >I'd consider myself average I suppose but I'd rather have friends that I can relate to based on my interests. And that literally has nothing to do with the part of my post I responded to, attractive people are treated better than ugly people. >arrogance, pride, over inflated ego, vanity, all those things are harder for beautiful people to keep under control All literally do not matter when you are attractive, people will want to be in your company regardless. Now those could be a genuine issue for an ugly person who could be seen as more unattractive as a result of their terrible personality. >you most definitely were handed things you take for granted, like a roof over your head, possibly a loving family, an education, etc As are attractive people, in addition to that they get all the great things that come with being attractive, how exactly does this demonstrate that life is more difficult for attractive people? >you can still develop skills and hobbies that will make you an asset and will open up more doors for you to socialize. As can attractive people. Could you imagine being attractive and being an asset to people? It's almost as if employers would hire that individual over an ugly person that is also an asset but doesn't have the good looks of the attractive person. Good thing employers don't actually favor attractive people, oh right... >but NOPE life's over for me because of strawman perfect person with no flaws. The quality of life for the average ugly person is worse than that of the quality of life for an attractive person, you can pick up as many hobbies as you want but the good looking guy will always derive greater enjoyment from them due to all the additional joys he has in life as a result of being attractive. >not everyone likes being tall anon, Are you the same anon who said you wished you were shorter because you're shy?
>>26026138 >just make $6 million dollars anon and you can get an average looking girl This is the god damn parrot from Aladdin, you can work forever in that industry and never make anything of yourself.
>>26026090 >And that literally has nothing to do with the part of my post I responded to, attractive people are treated better than ugly people. you're just saying what you already said. I could have just reread your original comment. you're adding nothing to the conversation. I already said that I disagree with that comment so quit rehashing. >All literally do not matter when you are attractive, people will want to be in your company regardless. other vain egotistical people maybe. that gets boring pretty quick. to keep people interested you need things to talk about, which requires paying attention to political issues, reading books, having hobbies and beliefs, etc. all things that are removed from appearance.
>looks of the attractive person. Good thing employers don't actually favor attractive people, oh right... depends what you're applying for. experience in the field is what usually trumps everything. >The quality of life for the average ugly person is worse than that of the quality of life for an attractive person, you can pick up as many hobbies as you want but the good looking guy will always derive greater enjoyment from them due to all the additional joys he has in life as a result of being attractive. that's just nonsense after nonsense. there is no average life. curveball: attractive guy has a micropenis. suddenly it's the worst cruel joke ever.
>>26022489 Nah, I'm content with my lot in life. I've got a girl that I like and should things go south I can get another girl because of, what people call it, charisma. And I'm like, 150 average. It's all about personality.
>>26026337 >other vain egotistical people maybe So an attractive person can arrange to have people in their company with relative ease as a result of their attractiveness? > to keep people interested you need things to talk about, which requires paying attention to political issues, reading books, having hobbies and beliefs, etc. all things that are removed from appearance. All things that an attractive person can still do >depends what you're applying for. experience in the field is what usually trumps everything. http://www.businessinsider.com/beautiful-people-make-more-money-2014-11 >curveball: attractive guy has a micropenis. suddenly it's the worst cruel joke ever. And more people will see it, touch it and fuck it than will ever see yours.
>>26026424 >So an attractive person can arrange to have people in their company with relative ease as a result of their attractiveness? read my posts, god damn. if you spend enough time around people you get a sense of their character and if they're nothing but a pretty face and they're egotistical and vapid on top of that yeah that can get pretty annoying. there's people that coast through life like that sure but they're not interesting or stimulating to talk to and often don't have many hobbies or interests. >All things that an attractive person can still do that's great, everyone should, usually when I'm talking to someone about political issues I don't side with the cutest person in the room but that's just me.
>good looking. or at least taking care of your appearance what every sensible person is advocating; maximizing your potential and not being spiteful towards people that look better than you. >And more people will see it, touch it and fuck it than will ever see yours. whoa senpai I'm on team beautiful here. I thought we established that. I have had multiple gf's and am currently with someone.
>>26026548 >there's people that coast through life like that sure but they're not interesting or stimulating to talk to and often don't have many hobbies or interests. No one cares about any of that if you're attractive >that's just me No one cares about you, the discussion pertains to the quality of life of an attractive person versus an ugly one. >He stopped reading not even half way through the paragraph I don't believe that but I'll post the entirety of it either way >Studies show that you're more likely to get hired if you look well-groomed, that good-looking people make about 12% more money than less appealing folks, and that attractive real-estate brokers bring in more money than their less attractive peers. So good looking people make more money than uglier people, straight up nothing to do with grooming, in case you missed it again somehow. >I'm on team beautiful >>26025911 >I'd consider myself average I suppose but I'd rather have friends that I can relate to based on my interests. Was this not your post? The attractive guy will have more sex than you regardless of the size of his penis
>>26026647 >No one cares about any of that if you're attractive some do. there's plenty of stereotypes about the airhead blonde bimbo, clueless jock, blue collar high school sports star. most of the officials in high offices aren't models. >No one cares about you, the discussion pertains to the quality of life of an attractive person versus an ugly one. am I not discussing it with you? if you don't care then don't respond.
>So good looking people make more money than uglier people, straight up nothing to do with grooming, in case you missed it again somehow. grooming has plenty to do with looks. it even mentions it in the article.
>Was this not your post? The attractive guy will have more sex than you regardless of the size of his penis I consider myself average because I like to remain humble. I don't compare myself to other men that way. I have an active sex life, I've had girls say I look like a model, I get checked out at the gym, have had weird stuff happen like girls running next to me on the treadmill when all the other ones are open, have had girls giggle and the stupidest joke, eyeing me in the street etc. I wouldn't say I'm the top 1% of men, but I also don't think it takes much more than grooming, diet and exercise to be considered an attractive person. that's just my opinion.
>>26026803 >most of the officials in high offices aren't models. Nah, attractive politicians win http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/03/opinion/sunday/health-beauty-and-the-ballot.html?_r=0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsXcFvGiCs8 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/9544307/More-attractive-candidates-really-do-pick-up-more-votes.html http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/science-news/7080729/Voters-prefer-attractive-politicians.html http://www.livescience.com/5161-studies-find-candidate-matter.html
>grooming has plenty to do with looks. it even mentions it in the article. The separate hyper linked article indicates that good looking people make more money, this has literally nothing to do with grooming. http://www.businessinsider.com/halo-effect-money-beauty-bias-2014-11 >I consider myself average because I like to remain humble >I'm team beautiful Which is it?
>>26026924 a couple articles aren't a deconstruction of humanity bro. >grooming has nothing to do with it >scarlett johannsen is the example. she has done loads to maintain her looks, there's nothing exceptional about her. picture this with 10 extra lbs and tell me that would still be considered an attractive person. you can't with a straight face. >I consider myself average because I like to remain humble >I'm team beautiful I was saying that in jest because of you're comment that I won't get as much pussi as someone more attractive than me. yeah I don't walk around thinking I'm beautiful because I think it's superfluous. but yeah I've had girls say I look like a model, am the cutest customer, you're beautiful, etc. it's all anecdotal.
>>26027124 You asserted that politicians aren't where they are as a result of the way they look, statistics indicate that looks play a major role in elected officials success. You're moving the goal post >picture this attractive person if they looked different, they wouldn't be so attractive now would they! So the average woman can appear to be as attractive as Scarlett Johannsen by grooming themselves? >I won't get as much pussy as someone more than attractive me You will not have as much sex as someone more attractive than you, they are not only more attractive than you but have access to the same means of "grooming" and improving themselves that you do. That is why they are at an advantage to you.
>>26027194 >picture this attractive person if they looked different, they wouldn't be so attractive now would they! no no, that's not what I said. she's unremarkable in the photo, if she was heavier she would be even less so. my point was you keep saying grooming has no effect on a persons attractiveness when scarlett really doesn't help argue your point. she's had rhinoplasty, dyes her hair, maintains her diet, makeup etc. >So the average woman can appear to be as attractive as Scarlett Johannsen by grooming themselves? maybe, or more so. she isn't my type. >You will not have as much sex as someone more attractive than you.
I will never have as much sex as a favela street prostitute either, doesn't mean I envy them. like I said, I have a girlfriend so I have sex whenever I want.
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