I can understand it being bad from the sense that it has potential to spread STDs but that's the only negative I can see. If for argument's sake STDs didn't exist I really don't see why prostitution is something 'bad' or 'evil'. A woman has a body and it's desirable. If people are willing to pay for a service and she's willing to accept cash for it I really don't see what's wrong in a mutually consented situation. Everybody is better off as a result.
>>25986352 >Undermines the family and normal human sexuality lol that is complete shit. "normally" as men we are wired to fuck as many mates as possible. its in fact marriage that is unnatural. google the coolidge effect.
I don't really give a shit if roasties do it, but if I had a crush on a girl and I found out she did any sex-related job I'd be crushed. Something about the idea of her putting herself on display in front of multiple random men (prostitute) or millions of random men (porn) just makes me gag. And that doesn't even include the mental image of those random penises entering her. All her appeal is instantly gone and I just can't look at her the same way again. I wish 18 year olds wouldn't up and do this shit. It just shows how females really want the easy money, even if it comes with a shitload of societal disappointments and hurt future boyfriend/husband.
Prostitutes are mainly hated by other women because they reduce the SMV of other women by providing sex to betas. It's your internalized pussywhipping that makes you hate whores. A real man just uses them as the commodity they are. Can't ruin marriage or whatever if you don't plan to marry them to start with.
>>25987082 I think most men who "hate" "whores" still cling to the idea of finding an innocent-ish girl who loves them for who they are etc. Girls who fuck men arbitrarily do 2 things: completely removes the innocent and loving "light" that girls usually give off, and it motivates other girls to get into the promiscuity-business as well (it's fine! no big deal! nothing bad can come of it and no sane person will judge you!). I guess this makes men feel like more and more girls are being ruined in their eyes. It's hard to watch the constant stream of selfies, 18 year olds doing porn or prostitution, social media attention seeking, etc, and still retain hope that you'll ever meet a girl who's not a degenerate in that aspect.
I know I'm ranting but that's how I feel. It's just hard to watch all this going on while you're powerless. I found out my high school crush lost her virginity to a bar dude while his friends watched, and it destroyed me and my image of her. No woman understands this because they assume sexism and insecurity but it is what it is.
>>25986188 If somebody decides one day that they want to be a whore because "lel easy money", yes of course it's bad and they should kill themselves, but if somebody was FORCED to turn to prostitution because whatever reasons than I'm obviously not gonna hate nor care.
>>25987389 >It is just a job >You do it like anything else. Yes you can see it as just a job, but many men don't see it that way. It's frivolous hedonism combined with intimacy and arbitrary fluid-mixing. Many people just don't want a partner who looks at it that way. Not saying prostitution/porn is objectively bad, but a lot of men are grossed out/wary of a woman who sees sex as a way to earn money rather than a way to be close to someone she likes.
>>25986352 >Undermines the family and normal human sexuality as much as fags do. Yeah, which is why prostitution is such a new phenomenon, and doesn't stretch back thousands of years and isn't found in different cultures around the globe.
>>25987665 >Yeah, which is why prostitution is such a new phenomenon, and doesn't stretch back thousands of years and isn't found in different cultures around the globe. Whores never became housewives you dip. Often they were forced too. So if you think it was good that there was human trafficking and brothels in operation, where the whores who tried to escape were killed, then there is something wrong with you.
>>25987389 >>25986297 >>25987082 This. You're whoring yourself out at any low-level job you could possibly take. Don't you dare tell me that the "i don't even know you, but we're best friends" attitude fucking everywhere in the service industry isn't a more severe example than the woman who will fuck you for cash. Just step foot inside a jamba juice and prepare to screech.
>>25986352 I'm a fag and absolutely despise the SJW invective, but a lot of the right's claims about family and tradition are equally off-point. Milo Yiannopolous, for instance, definitely isnt threatening anything worth defending. And keep in mind he only fucks niggers.
Though I will admit that getting with a guy who's been in porn or done rentboy stuff would brush against my insecurities in a bad way, since sex from him would feel like it meant a lot less. Still, emotional intimacy is a big thing and sleeping around as an actual job is way different from pathological promiscuity/hypergamy, which stands to threaten the emotional aspects of a relationship (refer again to the service industry whores.)
>>25986188 I think any reasonable guy in our society shouldn't hate girls for having a lot of sex, its just sex after all no matter how much people like to believe that it would lead to the downfall of civilization.
However, what women don't ever seem to realize is that men are never going to be impressed if she has a lot of sex, in fact we see it often as a sign of poor impulses. This isn't because we hate whores, but because we see too much of ourselves in whores (whores basically have the same amount of sex that most guys would have if we switched overnight into a female body).
So I can't really say its bad or good to be a whore, its just sort of middle ground tier where its not impressive but its not the end of the world. I'm super impressed with girls who have low partner counts though.
>>25987796 >I think any reasonable guy in our society shouldn't hate girls for having a lot of sex I wouldn't go that far, but I think a reasonable guy would kinda expect it and not be mad about it. It would definitely disgust me if I wanted to be in a relationship with a girl.
>I'm super impressed with girls who have low partner counts though. Especially if she's attractive. That's literally top-tier woman right there.
>>25987978 You can repeat this as many time as you like, but it doesn't change how many people feel about it. There's nothing "objectively" wrong about prostitution, but people might find it repulsive. Do whatever you want, just don't lose your shit when you have to face the consequences.
>>25986188 Pornstars and Prostitutes who don't try to hide or defend their profession are a-ok in my book They provide a necessary service
"Whores", i.e. roasties who give away the poon to everyone (an easy lay) but don't try to justify cheating are less acceptable but still tolerable
Duplicitous, venemous, lying cheating sluts who lie and deny or claim "muh sexual liberty" when confronted with their infidelity are human trash and I would never, EVER consider a relationship with a known cheater
>>25986379 humans are not stupid animals, and only because you are capable of something doesnt mean its naturally. and the claim that the human is "wired" to fuck as many as possible is wrong and retarded. since the dawn of time rapists get murdered as cruel as possible. the excuse you are bound to specific behavior is absolute pathetic. survival of the fittest is a joke, only the dumbest idiots believe in that, survival of the fitting is the only rule that exists.
Still no responses ITT as to why whoring is bad. Only "o-okay it's not objectively bad but it would just make me FEEL disgusted." Literally a woman's argument. How old do you have to be to relate virginity to innocence? Being familiar with sex doesn't make you dirty. Other people have mentioned cheaters, but "not dating a known cheater" isn't the same as someone who sleeps around. And if someone who sleeps around happens to be a cheater, well, that's just anecdotal. Still waiting for a valid reason.
>>25988317 You won't get a valid reason. If someone on /r9k/ hates whores, it's for the same reason he hates everything related to sex: because he can't get any. People who are having sex make robots mad.
>>25988199 >humans are not stupid animals, Evidence points to the contrary. We think we're better than animals, but we fall prey to many of the same animalistic tendencies we observe in our closest living relatives (and indeed, even distant relatives)
>and only because you are capable of something doesnt mean its naturally. Lol wut? Being capable of something is the definition of natural. Your morals are specific to your culture, just because you act and think a certain way doesn't mean every human does the same
>and the claim that the human is "wired" to fuck as many as possible is wrong and retarded. since the dawn of time rapists get murdered as cruel as possible. Only relatively recently has rape become "(le)terally worse" than murder. You're also assuming that the only way to be promiscuous is through rape. Chads and moneybags, anyone? If you're attractive, you'll have more potential mates and more opportunities to procreate
>the excuse you are bound to specific behavior is absolute pathetic. No one is "bound" to tendencies, but they are called "tendencies" because it is behavior we "tend" to, i.e. that is ingrained. Not unlearnable or universal or impossible to overcome, as is evidenced by many celibates and asexuals
>survival of the fittest is a joke, Next you'll be saying "Darwinism is a hoax, God created the world for humans, repent to Jizzus Crust". "Survival of the fittest" is exactly what has shaped our evolution both genetically and socially
>only the dumbest idiots believe in that, o i am laffin
>survival of the fitting is the only rule that exists. Conformity ensures survival of an individual, not a species. Being a boring sad cunt won't get you laid, m8.
>>25988317 >increased chances of STDs >increased chances of pregnancy >lax view of human intimacy >attention-craving and often vulgar behavior >victim mentality (for instance when boyfriend finds out and dumps them, they lose their shit as if they didn't know it was gonna bite them in the ass) >decreased ability to pairbond (even if you don't believe the meme-charts, doing something over and over makes it less "special" and more "casual") >possibly higher chance of cheating in relationships (logically, you're used to variety so you're going to crave variety) >possibly higher chance of dissatisfaction in relationships (high chance of having had better/more satisfying sex) >possible mental damage (a lot of "promiscuous" behavior has been linked to mental issues) >less likely to be willing to experiment with future partners (already tried that and didn't like it)
In addition: Subjective views are perfectly valid. The fact that a lot of men feel an innate disgust for promiscuous women, is a perfectly good reason for a woman to find a normal job that might make less money but retain respect from potential partners. And yes, most of these things apply to promiscuous women outside the business as well.
>>25988629 >>increased chances of STDs They get regularly tested. >increased chances of pregnancy What is contraception? >lax view of human intimacy That's like saying an actor who is typecasted has a baddie can't be a good person.
>>25989030 >>25989044 Every single fucking one after the first two are purely based on your opinion. Because you're an angry virgin, you make up all of these mental issues that you have and project them into people who have had sex.
>>25988757 >That's like saying an actor who is typecasted has a baddie can't be a good person. This has to be bait. When acting, everything is fake. When doing porn, the sexual intercourse is actually real.
>>25989071 >who have had sex Being a whore is massively different from "having had sex". I know plenty of guys who are Chads or at least non-virgins who would never touch such a woman. Do you really think only virgins are like this?
Every single job (or really any activity done repeatedly for a sustained period of time) has long-term effects on a person and their psyche.
You can't pretend that prostitution is an exception. Especially since it's a very intense activity that is strictly tied to our human nature and behavior.
It's perfectly normal for someone who does something multiple times every day for a long time to have that particular area of their life altered. Prostitution (or just whoring around for free) being the exception is an axceptional claim that requires proof to be believed, since it would be something out of the norm.
>>25987270 This. It's become the norm to be a slut. How the fuck is a self respecting man supposed to find a wife when its the norm for a girl to fuck 30 dudes by her early 20s. Marriage rates are going to plummet over this in the coming years.
>>25986379 Yeah, when we could have several wives and harems. Now there isn't a fucking male shortage due to war,conflict, etc. When there is an even number of men and women its more efficient to maintain a monogamous relationship and build families with core values. And culturally women needed men to support a healthy family. Now with contraception and welfare women don't "need" men.
This still leads to societal problems. The nuclear family is the best family.
Nothing wrong with being a whore, just don't force people to accept you as a girlfriend or w/e. And don't lie about it. If there's one thing I can't stand, is women who lie about it to get into a relationship with a man.
>>25993197 Yes, precisely. It's not the whorishness that bothers me, it's the fact that they go haywire if anyone rejects them based on their path. If whores (both paid and unpaid) fucked around, were upfront with it, and accepted rejection as a decent reality, then 90% of my hatred would go away. Too bad that's an unacceptable reality for women.
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