Something about humanity must be seriously fucked up on a fundamental level if so many people here can suffer without intimacy, without friends, without a meaningful place in their society.
Where did everything go so wrong?
It's probably really simple. Just look at the way society treats the genuinely mentally disabled. They're either helped along or they're ignored/pushed away. When you see something wrong with someone, you can single out that flaw usually no problem. Your reaction to it depends on the person you are.
Not to say everyone here is mentally disabled, unattractive, etc or both. When you put yourself in a happy normie's shoes, why would you want to hang out with an ugly or sad person? You would probably want to fit into a group of people similar to you and continue having fun or whatever.
I'm not that smart though, so maybe I'm wrong, but I try not to place ridiculous blame unless absolutely necessary. There's no way society as a whole went wrong, it's just the way people here are and the way they are.
Pretty much. If someone like Elliott Rodger was just a chill nice kid, who was maybe like a bench warmer on the soccer team or something, and wasn't worried about being an alpha or some such nonsense, he would have had a gf, no problem.
isolation creates the monster, not the other way around. this kind of explaining is only done by normals to relieve themselves of any sense of empathy/responsibility they might feel for "them" otherwise.
Th reason half of you are isolated is because you're arrogant. Socializing takes some humility. It takes not taking yourself so seriously, and being able to laugh at yourself. And it takes not buying into alpha/beta nonsense.
I'm not quite sure
But I generally enjoy any sort of solitary activity more than anything where I have to interact with other people.
I'm not really suffering, despite the occasional bout of lonliness and despair, I'm fairly content with being alone.
if this was true then there were lonely woman too because there is approx 0.3 more men then woman on this earth
but they aren't alone. all woman had relationships at some point, which is bizarre as fuck
I was isolated in my childhood by my parents. Wasn't allowed to leave the house to visit friends or any other form of socialization.
Now as an adult I have severe social anxiety and depression. I don't see how in any way I'm arrogant or think highly of myself.
I strongly doubt most people who are alienated are that way due to arrogance. In fact this is the first time I've heard this theory.
Did you come up with it yourself after taking this board too seriously?
I don't know where in my post I came off as complacent. I hardly take things for granted. How does a humble person deal with what they expect of others and their self in life then?
I blame liberal self-esteem schooling building up ideas of self-importance in children only to be viciously smashed by by the real world, leading to mass disillusionment by people who were taught what they want matters and they deserve things.
and where do you gain the ability to laugh at yourself and be "humble", these things aren't personality traits they're learned, and not even that necessary to actually speak to people. I know plenty of people that are actually arrogant, maybe even "bad people", but they still have friends and social lives. serial killers are loved at some point, but they're not good or humble, they just learned the way to socialize. you want to peg it as some character trait but its not, its learned, and when you dont learn "it" youre fucked.
not saying you aren't right that someone who never learned to socialize is flawed, but it's not always because they're bad people. sometimes its bad luck, and sometimes they're just predisposed to it.
You'd be surprised how many people are incredibly arrogant about being lonely, but obviously thats not always the case, I've met several people who were sheltered and have a hard time, but you can still do it, you just gotta get out and practice, even if it makes you uncomfortable, and it will
I guess we all have our own arbitrary definitions of words, then.
>develop different interests, taste in music, sense of humor, etc, from other kids
>become alienated as most people can't even really relate on an acquaintance level
>spend entirety of high school alone because i really don't click with the normies in any way and all attempts just felt like me trying to be someone i wasn't
>"it's because you refuse to change anon"
>"it's all in your head anon"
>"narcissism is what did this to you"
fuck normie reasoning. even if i become the most open and social person suddenly i'm still not going to hang out with people unlike me that don't have anything in common and can't laugh at the same jokes
>"you need to learn to adjust yourself to others!"
>try to be friendly with normies
>"you shouldn't change who you are for others!!!!"
>get tired of it and try to see if they still like me by just being honest about myself, contact quickly fades
yeah no, i've had too many different approaches and failures to expect anything
the fuck you know about me
only thing you have to know is that being a good person is the most worthless thing ever despite everyone trying to debunk you.
good people have no worth in jobs,relationships and probably less likely to success if they go down the narrow path of kindness, iv been too good to people because i thought that being good is a virtue that people appreciate
I can't take someone who writes their instead of they're seriously.Besides you sound like a woman.
If you want a refutation, there is no need for any, since your assumption is baseless.
There was a time were normies weren't so retarded and were actually fun to be around. Times changed. "Normal" people changed for the worse. You try to fit a decadent society that's what happens.
No one in the early 20s has seen it all. NO ONE. You'll be surprised how much time changes you. And again, chill with the arrogance. You're not some special case the world has never seen before. And being a good person is it's own reward. You sound like a dick. I'm not surprised you're isolated. Who would want to be around someone with your attitude?
You just literally describe yourself as arrogant. Going from outsider to normie, I realized that there is no "being someone you're not" you just roll with whatever group you're with. Not being able to learn to like new and different things is what separates you from me.
>yeah bruh i totally grew up, i see through the bullshit of you guys, you're all arrogant and unlike you i made something of myself
>he says while being on a cancerous shitposting board inhabited by the people he claims not to be a part of, on friday night
normies visiting /r9k/ is a meme
I'm here because the gf is sleeping, we both go here, Its been apart of my life for almost a decade so why wouldnt I go here? I roll from board to board as I feel like it, 4chan is a culture.
kek, I have an English degree too. I don't proofread my shitposts though.
There isn't some line in the sand between normal and abnormal people. the world is much more nuanced than that. And anon, there aint nothing new under the sun. There were no good old days.
no. everything i say to you i based off my life experiences.
most successful people that i knew were big fucking dicks that treat people like shit.
heck even the most popular guy in my school was a giant turd and he got nothing but admiration and respect from other people
humanity has turned on itself, we all need to burn and bomb to ashes and it will happen, the question is when
>Um, that anon used they're and their correctly both times. You're a retard.
Actually, the their is wrong. My mistake. You're still a fucking retard for trying to claim a grammatical error is feminine. You should probably let go of your painfully obvious bias
>"just roll" aka you adjust yourself to others regardless of whether you feel at home with these people
>"not being able to learn to like new things" aka adjust your interests to other people, its "arrogant" to want to want relatable people
There's definitely folks here who can't change themselves but there's also going overboard, and there's absolutely truth in the cycle of "learn to like new things" and "don't change yourself for others." It has to come from both sides: you can't expect a gf who's just you with a vagina, but you also don't want someone who's just a polar opposite that doesn't give a shit about anything you value.
I think robots are stubborn, but I also feel like a lot of advice often comes down to "deny everything about yourself. this is good for you, trust me i'm not like you and you're too mentally fucked to know."
YOU HAVE NO CLUE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, THE ONLY GOOD THING WE HAVE IN 2016 IS TECHNOLOGY, BUT WE HAVE NEVER EVER REACHED SUCH A LEVEL OF DEGENERACY ON EVERY LEVEL
By normal and abnormal I mean low-brow and high-brow. lots of failed normies on this board, and born ugly people.
Not the grammar error retard, the post as a whole. You're so retarded I'm pretty sure you're a female or a low-test male.
didnt read. still that doesnt make him arrogant or a man with unrealistic expectations.
Sorry that wasnt supposed to come out like that mean sounding. I do have my own likes and am definitely my own weird person, and I mostly hang around people that have the same sense of humour, like the same things, etc but I have enough knowledge and social sense to hang with pretty much anybody, the jocks want to do something? Sure bro, lets hit up that hockey game, the nerds wanna game? Hell yeah, leme redownload WoW or install DotA, the weebs wanna shoot the shit? Lets watch some Bakemonogatari
Just gotta not be afraid of going "against yourself" if I worded that right, personally I think there is no denying yourself, just adding more to you
Read books such as Alone Together and Bowling Alone. They document the breakdown of civic pariticpation and the rise of social fragmentation because of the Internet and other forces.
People are more isolated than ever before, even though communications technology is supposed to connect us better. Deep and meaningful interaction is replaced by superficial messaging and so on.
Capitalism has altered production so that people rarely work in tier communities, but commute to other locations to which they may be less attached which disrupts a sense of cohesion. Or they retreat inward to a domain of electronic distractions to full the emotional and social vacuums blotting their lives.
I think most robots just have unlucky personalities, if i think back to high school
>Was a kind of weird kid who liked edgy music and was obsessed with art and politics and shit
>Surrounded by kids who didn't relate: normies didn't care, nerdy kids too autistic for me
>End up alone, making me socially insecure, frustrated, and eventually turning to things like narcissism to keep myself with some sense of confidence
>Finish high school and realize my edginess, but now still socially inept and unable to connect with people
>Spend several years depressively trying to find a purpose and attempting to catch up on social skills
90% of us will grow out of it over time, but chances are a lot will be left bitter and missed some great opportunities
>All that stuff you're talking about will be trivial
still, im not saying there are no good people left, im just saying most people are absolutely unable to judge people truth character and support them for shallow things that have no meaning
This is the argument of the normals in this thread.
I'm not sure I believe there are 'good' and 'bad' people. I think it's more nuanced than that. But yeah, I agree that honesty is actually beneficial for professional success. A lot of people think otherwise, but I'm not sure I buy it. I've always though deceit was the realm of people who can't win straight up. Cheaters and such. Who would even want that kind of success? It's degrading.
your picture is mostly true, but stefan molyneux is a pseudointellectual who appeals mainly to men going through a midlife crisis and fedoras, it is embarrassing, you might as well be shilling MGTOW right now
>mfw ancient greeks bragged about fucking femboys before any robot
Back then, if you were a young man who acted outside the moral norms of his tribe, and they ostracized you, it meant no woman is going to sleep with you, no one is going to protect you while you sleep, no one is going to share food with you, and if you somehow survive into old age it doesn't really matter because your genes are going to die off. You're not going to reproduce with anyone. It's considered gene death in a tribal species.
We live on a little planet in a solar system on the edge of a galaxy, which is a minor galaxy. God isn't there and doesn't love us, and nature doesn't give a damn. We really are unimportant after all.
Technology made it where introverted types like us can spend all day on the internet to get socializing out of our systems. In the old days we lived in smaller communities and would usually make friends for life during childhood. Now with our globalized world and internet there isn't a point for us to leave our rooms.
Women's rights started the long downfall for women as a whole. Eventually its come to the point where women are free to slut around with whoever they please and of course their first choice is Chad. Now you have the most attractive 20% of males fucking constantly with beta men picking up the slack with what few ugly girls are left and Chad's leftovers after she gets off the cock carousel. The sex does not trickle down.
There was much more incentive in the old days for women to not be sluts as well. Your family would do all the work for you and set you up with a qt virgin wife and you would live happily ever after.
Basically what has happened in the last 50 years is the destruction of everything society has been building since antiquity.
There are any number of reasons he might be alone.
It could be that he's arrogant and demands too much of a mate.
Or it could be that he is too ashamed and uncomfortable with himself, his self-esteem is too low, and so he can't bring himself to risk getting close to somebody. Intimacy means vulnerability and some people are too afraid of being hurt.
Some people as well just don't connect very well with others. It is hard to bond with people when you don't share any common experiences.
we fuck'd up when we didn't kill all the psychopaths. 1 out of 3 humans are trash and need to die
>inb4 I sound like a psychopath
It's not as simple as there just being shitty parents. The overwhelming majority of the people of today are just shitty in general.
What a time to be alive...
If any of you societal rejects reading this post right now were born either 100 years before, or 100 years later from now, I think the majority of us may have been able to live relatively "normal", fulfilling lives. The sort of life that would be worth the struggle of having to cope with the unknown reason(s) of our very own existence. Not all of us, to be sure, but I believe the odds would have been much more in our favor, instead of the game of life being seemingly rigged from the start.
>"You're all living in fucking la la land."
>not wanting to be treated like a doormat is an unrealistic expectation
Because there are too many people on this planet. Because modern medicine allow unfit individuals to survive (and sometimes procreate - dysgenics). Because only males bear the evolutionary weight of this species. Most females reproduce, most males don't (but a few males reproduce a lot).
Among other things. Plus what >>25957469 said.