>>25859752 not quite stumped: The opening statement is true in an objective sense that the negative feelings associated with unfulfilled desires dissipates along with the desire. The missing piece is that the cessation of desire must happen organically, not as a means of attaining happiness or forcing change. One must be willing to let go of attachments, but be careful its not just an attempt to suppress desire, which is a desire itself.
Much like I cannot teach you to be zen, zen is something you must discover within yourself.
Desire is the root of motivation and the only thing that gives meaning to my life is to desire things. I don't envy people who pursue ideals or think life has a meaning, I believe it's all pointless and I can visualize clearly my desires through that thinking, and desires are what keep me moving. When you don't desire anything you might as well die, since living would be pointless without a goal.
I feel this all to well, yet my whole life I have never been able to manufacture any meaning, or subscribe to any, such as religion. So before long I came to see all desire as unfulfilling distraction and mental masturbation. But what is fulfilling, I don't know. I just inhabit the existential vacuum of emptiness, but since it is empty of value, I see no value in ending my life, nor striving for material goals.
>>25859685 >>25859761 >>25859979 >>25860267 look at those nihilistic who despise life so much that they want to change it. the point is really that there is no difference, on the level of existence, between what you call daily life and what you call death and after death.
the purpose of the dhamma is to reach, BEFORE YOU DIE, a happiness that is worth it [=permanent, irremediable], and to reach this you must be resolute to reach it as an hedonist, after you gain stream entry, you still care, but less and you know that you cannot really escape the path.
your daily life has always been the same: you seek happiness through your identification of what you call your ego.self/persona with your emotions/ideas and it fails miserably, day after day, year after year. the manifestation of this failure is -you still have pains -you cannot avoid pains to cease -your aversion towards pains, which turn into suffering -you still have avidity towards pleasures -you struggle to reach pleasures -you struggle to keep pleasures -you cannot avoid pleasures to cease -you still have hate, greed, resentment which leads to both pleasures and displeasures for you, and displeasure for others
all of this stems form you taking seriously your emotions, feelings, fantasies....
kamma is just activity, or rather ''creation'', or desire of becoming as many say which is precisely your choice to identify with your hedonistic misery.. as an hedonist, and atheist hedonist, you think that your daily life differs from what you call death [and by the way, you have no certainty that you will die, yet you claim to have faith in your death] but there is no difference.
>>25860267 How can this be done, if there are no underlying principles, powers or values to base it off of? All meaning is meaningless, arbitrary, a confabulation. While acknowledge the research showing that people who have meaning in their lives are healthier and happier, seems nothing can bring me back from the awareness that all that is "me" is a product of my physical body creating the illusion of consciousness, and this body was designed for the sole purpose of procreation, like every other life form to have ever existed. Indeed some do align themselves with purpose, and find meaning in raising families. But to declare that I reject this state of non-agency governed by primitive animalistic drives, places me right into the existential vacuum. Its an absurd state (maybe absurdism is a correct word for this phenomenon.). I have no reason for getting out of bed, so I tend to lay around until I need to urinate, defecate, eat or drink. But this doesn't feel depressing, at least not the sad kind of depression, but the lazy kind, when you don't feel like working towards anything in your life and are just passing your time alive here with distractions like going for walks, watching television and shitposting on 4chan.
>>25860945 I can't explain it very well, but try reading some Sartre. Either way, there is nothing from stopping you from saying I don't believe in anything. But because that too is a certain way of creating meaning (a choice as you will), you cannot really escape ascribing some meaning because you will always have to choose something over something else
>>25861071 I am following, and acknowledge the tendency to assign meaning and value to make sense of the world. But these are all temporary and fleeting, unlike a grand sense of self purpose you life is dedicated to.
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