is everyone who says there are tonnes of programming jobs just

I heard the same thing. Not sure if legit or not. There's naysayers claiming that the shortage in programmers and even IT in general is just not there and it's designed to lure people into the field to over saturate it.

But then there's people saying that if you're good, you got it made and can beat all the other cheapos.

>>25848549
if you're pretty smart with math and logic then yeah just do programming i can't see any reason not to. all of my friends are programmers and they love it, even at relatively shitty places to work like amazon or some bank. the point is that you get paid a fuck load of money with shares and other benefits to do very simple minded work. if you're even smarter i guess you could get into consulting/training and investing, but there you have to be your own manager.

other than that just do whatever you want and just make money on the side doing labor or reselling shit. at some point you'll get good and make real money at what you wanted to do. if you're really too dumb to put two and two together but still have time to work hard, go volunteer or apprentice with whatever is growing in your area.

>>25848549
>is everyone who says there are tonnes of programming jobs just spewing out bullshit they've heard?

yes

it's the in thing right now, soon the market will be saturated with shit "devs"

>>25848549
Dont learn program, it is Fucking soulless work. Learn dance therapy or physio therapist

codeacademy isn't gonna make you an expert programmer with a good job. to learn to program for an actual living takes a whole lot. indians and shit have grabbed alot of the low hanging fruit for earning money as a programmer. you're best bet is to work on a project that can make you money independently.

How good am I at programming if I solved 60 problems on Project Euler?

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>tfw no robot to learn programming with and motivate each other with

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>>25848614
Both of these are true. Theres no shortage of shit programmers, but theres always room for good ones. If you aren't going to make it your lifestyle, dont bother.

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>>25850367
i want to learn how to program too
wanna be my code buddy?

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>>25850461

depends on what language you have in mind

was thinking something like python or perhaps c++

>>25850184
The better way of putting it is, learning programming for the money is a road to despair. Programming is very interesting if you're into solving puzzles that don't necessarily have right answers, but I think to do it long-term without feeling bad about it probably requires liking the puzzles-in-themselves.

>>25850363
Project Euler is mainly about algorithms, and some of the problems are really trivial in modern languages with built-in support for boxed numbers and easy dynamic allocation. The trickiest part of Euler is often understanding the problem, which is to say many of its problems are about math rather than programming skills. There's a few that require memoization, which very few languages do automatically, so that's something.
But the other problem with Euler as a metric is that it doesn't teach program design, since it's all little one-shot algorithms. I mainly use it to familiarize myself with the syntax and general ways of doing things of a language I'm learning. Since one requires string parsing and a few require memoization and a few require mild data structures it tends to cover a lot of that ground.

>>25848549
You have to have the brain for it. By that I don't just mean the right kind of conceptual smarts and critical thinking and capacity for active minded problem solving. I mean you have to enjoy solving logical puzzles and find computers and software to be fascinating things.

There's also a big difference between the data management stuff, which can be on the boring side, and more creative applications stuff, which if you are high competent, creative and even better gifted, has all kind of opportunity.

I mean if you're on the level of working with AI, there's no boundaries for you. That shit is going to explode in the next few decades.

A good bet to be a successful programmer is to have a good working knowledge of the relevant languages but also to have a strong knowledge base in some other field you can combine the programming with so you can "disrupt" that industry as the buzzword goes.

>>25850461
>>25850367
I'm in guys, I wanted to learn C++ for a while. My throwaway is [email protected]

I am a programmer and I'm recruiting programmers for my company. We need lots of them. Here's the catch: its hard work and we set high standards for our programmers, and we document everything meticulously.

>>25850909

The hard part seems to be learning the language to the particular standard that you hold your workers to, then actually working as a programmers seems easy street if the people that I've talked to are correct.

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>>25850731

Sure, I'll shoot you a mail later on.

>>25850960
Its just solving problems, documenting the solutions, writing proposals for new features, then keeping everything up to date

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>>25850568
i'm learning Python too, and c++/c after
we're meant for each other this cannot be a coincidence

>>25850693
>>25850714

>into solving puzzles
>enjoy solving logical puzzles and find computers and software to be fascinating things.

I find both fascinating. I liked math subjects because it felt like the problems where just puzzles with defined rules. Do y'all think the feeling is comparable. Because if so, I think I could very easily like programming.

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>>25851094

Here's my mail, anon.

[email protected]

>>25851169
They're pretty compatible, yeah. One of the big differences between math and programming is that there are no illusions in programming that there are best answers, only canonical ones.

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>>25851094
>>25851245

you shemales gonna fug?

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>>25851559
no i just like animu grills and actually have trouble motivating self to learn programming

I used codeacademy, did help me a lot with javascript/jquery. started from nothing, currently a front-end dev for over a year now.

you can do it

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>>25851559

I'm not attractive enough, so I bring out my inner cuteness with these images.

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>>25851708
get my mail yet? it's probably in your spam since I just used guerillamail thing for the first time

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>>25851815

sure I did, have to leave the computer for now, but I'll get back to you in a while

>>25851981
k fampai

anyone who wants a programming buddy can contact my github email. [email protected]. Send me a link to your projects or info or whatever. I am a pretty decent javascript programmer. I know OO design patterns without needing ECMAScript 6