Hey /r9k/, criminology student here. I'm doing my dissertation on Elliot Rodger and the Isla Vista killings.
I know many of you have a deep interest in him, so AMA. I might even learn a thing or two off you
This guy was cool but anders breivik was better imo
Are you going to cite or thank us in your work and make us famous?
You should instead show how multiple killers all fit the r9k profile of lonely virgin males who can't get pussy no matter how hard they try. It's very common.
People think that it's mental health failings that lead to these shootings, but it's actually feminism and sexual liberation.
>Are you going to cite or thank us in your work and make us famous?
I will of course mention that he has a notable fanbase, like many other famous serial killers/mass murderers
see above, almost all famous killers have a loyal fan base, many killers will have a specific grievance, shared by thousands of others, and a significant minority of those will openly sympathise with the killer.
I asked James Ellis if he would be willing to participate in an interview, but unfortunately he refused. Generally most of his peers wanted to distance/disassociate themselves from him after the attacks
>Do you have access to works written by him (such as the fantasy story mentioned in the Isla Vista investigative summary)? If you have read them, did you like them?
I don't have access to any primary evidence from the case, beyond an interview I did with one of the Officers from Santa Barbara County Sherrif's office.
Though the fantasy novel he wrote was not seized during investigation.
You are absoluutely wrong, or course in the edgy environment of 4chan the serious admirers blend in with the trolls, but I imagine it's something like 50/50, with all the trolls assuming no one is serious.
Even I have quite a lot of sympathy for him compared with other killers.
It's a psychological case. From a criminology standpoint there was near nothing to be done till the clean up phase. The only things anyone on the justice side of the system could have done to prevent it would have infringed on rights more then protect life.
Guys like him are the tip of the iceberg. There are a lot of men who have similar frustrations, but will never do anything about them.
Add in a drop of mental illness, and to some extent access to guns, and some of those guys will start killing people.
People always cuss me out for saying this but I'm just gonna say it - I strongly believe I would have killed random people out of anger and frustration if I had easier access to guns. I had every intention to do a theatre shooting. I tried to buy them but it's difficult for an aspie in England.
Wanting to and planing are worlds from actually doing anything about it.
I'm an awesome shot with at least half a dozen people I could kill that would make my life easier but I couldn't get away with it.
He did indeed.
No, although that did actually affect my work slightly, because it confirmed many things Elliot said in his manifesto. Elliot has never told a lie in his manifesto from what other evidence we have.
No, I'm back
There are basically two types of mass killers. Those who are inclined to kill, then latch onto a grievance, and those who start with a grievance that escalates to murderous thoughts. Elliot was the latter so would not have murdered if his stress level was less.
His stress would have been reduced be either having a girlfriend himself, or not having to constantly witness other's public affection.
It was pretty much impossible for him to ever be able to get a girlfriend. He had far too many qualities about him that would scare any girl away. That, and he literally never had a chance, as he never once even talked to girls.
Maybe an arranged marriage or being forced to go on a set-up date would have helped?
>Guy might of calmed down if he became a Hikikomori hermit?
He was not the type to become a hikikomori though, he hated staying indoors for too long even when he was ill. He spent almost the entire day outside most days during his final weeks.
Elliot really was a 'perfect storm' just waiting to explode, none of these things alone would cause a person to mass murder, but they are all heavy straws on the camal's back
- Divorced parents
- Mixed race, with identity issues
- Short (adding to insecurity)
- Father was incredibly weak, and Elliot had no respect for him
- No sex or affection or love
The fact here that it was not just sex is why seeing a prostitute would only have helped partially
- Had to witness public affection constantly at college
- Had a very successful family, and therefore had a higher benchmark to aim for.
- Was about to end leave the safety net of college and enter the working world with few qualifications.
Elliot was materially well provided for, but mentally very strained, the most likely candidate for mass killer.
I was at UCSB at the time. A sort-of friend of mine (we co-taught a class) was killed.
I guess I don't have anything to say about this, really, other than, fuck Rodger.
r9k forgets that the first thing he did was kill his shut-in housemates. With a fucking knife, too. It's not a good way to die.
Yes, after that he decided to kill people and started planning it. He was going to do this by Halloween 2013 but realized there was going to be too many cops.
>Not reading the manifesto
I can't believe that a non-sociopath would be able to actually stab people in their sleep
shooting people I can get a bit more
I wish these guys had acted out against those who had actually wronged them though. what's the point in killing random people, not even stacies or chad, usually people most like them. shit it's like their still afraid to actually get one over on the people who've made them feel so shit, like they are still defined by what's happened to them so all they can do is redirect that anger towards innocents who they aren't intimated by
People commit suicide when they believe they have caused their own suffering, people murder when they believe others are the cause of their suffering.
For example, a student who spends all his time partying then gets bad grades may be inclined to commit suicide, a student who studies hard and gets bad grades is more likely to kill others.
Did Elliot have narcasstic personality disorder? Living with a personality disorder tricks you into believing everything is everyone else's fault. He couldn't handle the rejection, and was too aspie to be a good manipulator, so he exploded. Is this accurate?
did you listen to?
I love the very odd occasions when he swears
>"Joey who they assigned to show me around. He was nice to me at first, but would soon turn out to be a rotten little prick"
>" I often call USC the university of spoiled cunts"
>tfw listening to elliot rodger's audio book while new order elegia plays
>I would have killed random people if I had easier access to guns
And I would have commited suicide if I wasn't such a faggot.
You have fantasies, not real plans...
Wrong. I deeply admire Elliot. His actions serve as a glittering beacon in the darkness in the hellish world. Whores treated him like garbage and he retaliated accordingly. He didn't do a single thing wrong. I only wish he had killed more of them. What they did to him... to me... it's just so unfair. I think about the many ways others are superior to me, and how women love them for it, and it fulls me with an unquenchable fury. Why were they given such chances while I was not? Why are they allowed to benefit from these chances? They all deserve a worse hell than has ever been imagined.