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I'm literally everything women don't want in a romantic

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I'm literally everything women don't want in a romantic partner.

>unattractive
>shy
>boring
>can't carry a conversation
>no self-esteem or confidence
>submissive, both sexually and personality-wise
>clingy and emotional
>no friends, no social life
>main hobbies include staying indoors and consuming media
>watch anime because it makes me feel like I have a friend
>have a fetish for taller women
>lower-middle class income

Is there ANY hope for me?
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Pretty much the same except

>no income
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>>25824001
Yes. Change. Stop glorifying your shit qualities.
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>>25824001
>tfw no lamia gf

Kill me
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>>25824307
The majority of this shit is ingrained in my personality. How do I change it?

I'd love to become a completely different person if I could, but I don't see how it's feasible.
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>>25824308
>iktfb
when will the suffering end?
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>>25824329
it's because you're so positive that you can't change. nut up and make the change you want. noone chooses who you want to be but you. Want to mope around for the rest of your life? fine don't do anything
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>>25824465
This doesn't really answer my question.
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>>25824483
Just "nut up" bro (whatever the fuck that means).
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>>25824530
Push your testicle(s) up into your abdomen.
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>>25824483
There is only hope for you if you have hope in yourself. Change the qualities you don't like or don't do anything and continue being hopeless. It's in your control, you're just afraid of the change.
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>>25824001
I feel you OP.

One of my favorite fantasies is that I live in a world where shyness and submissiveness are considered attractive in men
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>>25824567
This still isn't answering my question

How do I change parts of my fuckin psyche? How do I rewire my entire way of thinking?

"Just change them" is not a sufficient answer here
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>>25824001
Same here but I have no income because neet.
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There's a lot of hope. I'm about the same in terms of unattractiveness, but I've been researching seduction and I've been getting numbers easily later. I haven't got laid yet but at least hot girls are willing to give me their number, which means a huge progress for me.
The basics are start dressing properly (research fashion, the /fa/ sticky helps but there's a lot of bullshit) and start researching how to talk to girls. It's more of a game than being a Chad. If you know how to do things, you don't even need to fake a personality, just mold it so it fits with your game. Talk to random girls who know nothing about you and if you did your research properly, you should have it easy.

Women don't care about WHO you are, they care about HOW you deal with them, and once you understand that you realize that it doesn't matter if you jack off 4 times a night and watch anime the whole day, if you look decent and know basic seduction (which is knowing more than most men) you can hope for a lot.
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>>25824604
You're right, and yes, somethings are literally ingrained in your brain because it has built them up as some of the first things you ever, ever experienced as a baby, and you hold them as fundamental beliefs about what the world should be.

Obviously, I don't know who the fuck you are or what your personality is really like. But I used to be pretty fucking anxious and awkward, and I really feel like, over the past 6 or 7 years, I have turned that right the fuck around. It's a slow process, don't get me wrong. But last year, I lost my virginity. I fucked another girl a few days ago!

Maybe it helps that I'm physically attractive. But I used to be a social wreck and thought I could never be any different. But they changed.
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>>25824713
>Maybe it helps that I'm physically attractive.
Yes. You are right. That does help.
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>>25824713
Oh and another thing - I read somewhere, on /b/ actually, that on the note of introducing yourself to women, "It doesn't matter what you say, as long as you say it with total confidence"

I literally just totally took this on board and it's my foundation for all interaction with women. Is it foolproof? No way. Does it still leave me looking like a weirdo? Sure. But it boosts my chance of getting ANYWHERE with them by 100%, compared to if I just sit in my room and jack off all day.
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>>25824713
>>25824798
This is such a ridiculous oversimplification and I can tell that you're fucking bullshitting about ever being a "social wreck".
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>>25824883
I gave up on the only thing I could even loosely refer to as a "social group" because everyone in it despised me. So i just thought, I gotta get this social shit worked out, or die trying.

I hate to be one of these people, but that negative attitude really ISN'T gonna help.
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>>25824001
Just kill yourself . All those apply to me also . I'm planning on killing myself. There's no hope for people like us. It doesn't get better
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>>25824961
And saying "women love confidence" or "just nut up" isn't going to help anyone on this board.

Maybe they despised you not because you're introverted or shy or anxious, maybe they despised you because you come off as a jackass.
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>>25824604
You have to tear down your image of yourself. Right now, any change you make will be met with fierce resistance.

Let's say you want to replace an hour of anime per day with an hour of fitness training. It's hard, because you see yourself as a person who watches a lot of anime, and you don't see yourself as a sportsman. A pro athlete would find the opposite to be a problem -- fitting in an hour of anime would probably be tough for him.

I find meditation really useful, because it allows me to tear down my ego and build it back up in a more rational way. I do Vipassana, but probably Zen or TM or that Headspace app would be similarly useful.

Not that this is the only way of making changes. Taking things out with a shrink and getting on meds can also help you rebuild your self-identity. Or you can brute force it -- doing something positive 30 days in a row, for example, will get you into a new habit, which will then become a part of the way you see yourself.

Also: realize that there's nothing objectively wrong with your life. It's only bad because you think it's bad.
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>>25825012
They hated me because I WAS introverted, shy and anxious.

And you know what else, I just reread what OP posted, and I too have a fetish for taller women, and guess what, I like being submissive in the bedroom. This has not hurt me before.
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>>25824604
"Just change them" is the only answer there is senpaii
You have to want to change, you have to know what you want to be like, then you have to start acting like what you want to be, and eventually you won't have to act anymore.

You don't just become the way you are by chance, you choose it, and you can choose something else if you actually want to.
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>>25825140
>You don't just become the way you are by chance
no, you become the way you are via a series of intertwining events and choices from age 0-12 made by you, your parents, and others
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>>25824001
where do you get a daki like that?
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Kinda related.

I had sex a few times with one girl like 7 years ago and I can tell you yes, female orgasms are a myth. Unless you're packing a 9 inch with 8 inch girth she isn't going to get that full body ecstacy feeling when you have sex with her, real talk.

If you have an average dick like me, the most you can do is mildly please her and even then it's more of an emotional trip for them for some fucking reason and not about raw physical sensation like us males.

The first insertion is when a female feels the most physical pleasure, after that if you have an average dick like me it turns into a chore for them.

I only managed to halfway please this girl once and that was when I was really fucking tired and I was going at it at a snails pace for like 10 minutes. Apparently to her it was the best sex ever but as soon as I picked up the pace I came in like 30 seconds.

I dont know if premature ejaculation is a biological defect or whatever because I have studied the mating patterns of other primates and they all cum in under 30 seconds, I believe it's because having sex puts you in a vulnerable position? in which other males can openly attack you so their and our bodies evolved to cum in the quickest time possible, to pass on the genes and resume survival.

Now I leave you with this, I feel like I am a normal guy and have studied and revised my single sexual encounters with this woman 7 years ago and have watched enough porn to learn that average penises like mine are not enough to ever truly please a woman. It's sad but true. A woman may be content materially, with your personality and direction in life, with your family, your friends but sex is a different ball game. They will take a loss on it if you can provide in other areas but they will always desire full good sex from a man who is more masculine than you and has a more endow penis capable of stretching and filling her vaginal hole.
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>>25825185
That's an excuse.
It may influence the way you chose to act, but It's still 100% up to you.
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>>25825234
>It's still 100% up to you
b u l l s h i t

how can you type this, look at it, and not burst out laughing
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>>25825214
It was $800 and sold out instantly.
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>>25825257
Because I'm not pathetic enough to lie down and take what was given to me when i didn't like it.
I changed, so can you, the only difference is that you don't want to try, you just want to take some magical pill that makes all lifes problems go away, and if it can't be done without minimal effort from yourself, it must not be possible.
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>>25824001

Same here except the tall fetish.

I got a q.t. gf today.

There is hope friend. This sounds like a meme but trust me.
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>>25825359
How am I supposed to not feel pathetic when I'm constantly being told I'm pathetic

Even on /r9k/ I'm a pathetic loser
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>>25824001
The same except not clingy and emotional and a NEET
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>>25824680
But most men know basic seduction, to be completely honest. Everybody uses google sooner or later for that explicit purpose.
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>>25825609
I understand it, but I don't know how to do it. The idea of flirting with a girl is so alien to me. Everything I say comes off as cringe.
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>>25825453
Change.
You know what you want to be, the only thing left is to become it.
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>>25825453
then stop browsing r9k. doing so when you're really NEET only provides you an autobiographic circlejerk

become less pathetic anon. do it so you'll at least be better than dem middle-class niggers.
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>>25825710
/r9k/ is the only thing that keeps me sane. I'm pretty certain if I didn't find an online platform to anonymously vent and talk with other like-minded people, I woud have fucking offed myself years ago.
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>>25825453
Becuase the standards are probably somewhere been been set too high, making you seem pathetic when you probably would be considered normal at worst if someone would be using normal standards.
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some people are born without the potential for greatness, you're one of them

don't listen to the demi-chads ITT

they were fucking 7/10+ guys their whole life and their idea of "introverted" is staying inside on a friday night every so often instead of going to another huge party

they don't know shit
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>>25826179
CBT for your anxiety
lifting for your looks and discipline
books for your intellect and interests
hobbies for socializing
cooking for getting rid of your fat ass
basic hygiene for dem ass-to-back stained NEETs
seriously, if it's only being introverted that you blame your shitty life on, then you're disillusioned as fuck.
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>>25826179
this

>>25826328
lifting doesn't fix ugly.
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>>25826328
>CBT for your anxiety
>lifting for your looks and discipline
>cooking for getting rid of your fat ass
>basic hygiene for dem ass-to-back stained NEETs
OP here, I do all these already.

Lifting has not helped my looks situation at all, nor do I feel better.
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>>25824001
that's nice
im retarded
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being boring and needy are the killers. you can be ugly, awkward, short, fat, whatever, as long as you're interesting and assertive.

however, they're also the hardest ones to fix and often cannot be fixed at all.

good luck my friend :)
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>>25826427
>you can be ugly and awkward
Lel, no you can't
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>>25826347
it does for some part fix attraction and at least gives you something to start from. though it may not help everyone, how hard is it to at least look like you're taking care of yourself?
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>>25826762
What's the point of dedicating years of my life and hundreds of dollars to look like a 5/10 when plenty of guys can roll out of bed an 8/10?
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>>25824559

I laughed at this far harder than I should have.
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>>25826762
I do take care of myself. I just happen to be ugly and women are unwilling to accept that.

>>25826794
Pretty much this. For most robots it will only lead to a very minute improvement and will net any better results in term of relationships or acceptance.
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>>25824001
post skype
skypeblox
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>>25826352
well having no social interaction or meaningful relations is a downer for anyone. is it possible to make friends through hobbies? it would take away the not being able to hold convos for a bit as you're doing something and can develop friendship over a longer time.
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>>25826871
I don't have hobbies. My hobbies are watch this, browse that, listen to this, play that. Nothing enriching. Nothing creative. Nothing interesting.

Nothing interests me.

I really feel like a non-person. Like I'm just spectating life.
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>>25824001
Same here OP, except not clingy and emotional and worse income
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>>25826794
because attitude matters more than looks get confidence and you'll be more successful
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>>25824307
>>25824465

>hurr just completely change who you are as a person
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>>25827641
>because attitude matters more than looks get confidence
Hahaha, no. You're just setting up robots to be delusional and commit cringe worthy attempts.
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>>25824713

>physically attractive

yeah no FUCK OFF
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>>25827641
Which is it? You guys keep changing your story. I thought confidence was key, but now it's "attitude".
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>>25824001
Actually yes, my 6/10 cousin is going out with a NEET gook that fit your description.
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>>25828370
What does she see in him?
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